| zzyzx | 05-17-2005 02:02 PM |
What do you do to prepare?
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I think this might be an interesting topic.
I'm wondering what different people do to prepare for an event in terms of diet. The obvious cuplrits would be Red Bull or similar drinks, etc, etc. Also, there's your diet in general. Coming to an autox in a low-energy state just isn't going to get you to 10/10ths. Particularly because it's so hard to loose focus waiting around, etc.
To date, I haven't made any real effort on pre-autox prep from this perspective.
How about you?
I'm wondering what different people do to prepare for an event in terms of diet. The obvious cuplrits would be Red Bull or similar drinks, etc, etc. Also, there's your diet in general. Coming to an autox in a low-energy state just isn't going to get you to 10/10ths. Particularly because it's so hard to loose focus waiting around, etc.
To date, I haven't made any real effort on pre-autox prep from this perspective.
How about you?
| KC | 05-17-2005 02:05 PM |
Coffee cake muffin and decaf coffee from Dunkin Donuts.
--kC
--kC
| zzyzx | 05-17-2005 02:16 PM |
That's hardcore, KC. No wonder why your teh fastist. ;)
| WRXedUSA | 05-17-2005 02:16 PM |
I generally drink 4-5 Redbull and Vodkas the night before. Wake up, eat a box of corn flakes and two bottles of water.
I'm good to go!
I'm good to go!
| jcroy66 | 05-17-2005 02:20 PM |
Same as I do any other day - usually some cereal for breakfast, fruit for a morning snack, stay away from caffeine, etc.
Only real preparation that I do is that I'll frequently do yoga in grid. Helps wake me up (important when you're running first heat like L2 does), helps warm the muscles, get me calm & centered, etc.
Oh, and L2 usually dances as a group in grid. ;)
Only real preparation that I do is that I'll frequently do yoga in grid. Helps wake me up (important when you're running first heat like L2 does), helps warm the muscles, get me calm & centered, etc.
Oh, and L2 usually dances as a group in grid. ;)
| dwx | 05-17-2005 02:22 PM |
I usually just bring water and eat some bananas before I leave to go to the event, or bring some with me.
The redbull girls have come out to our events a few times and given away free red bull. I can't drink straight red bull, it's like syrup, but they add scenery to the events. :)
The redbull girls have come out to our events a few times and given away free red bull. I can't drink straight red bull, it's like syrup, but they add scenery to the events. :)
| gearhead | 05-17-2005 02:23 PM |
I am just getting started at autox, but i think the night before you would load up on the carbs . Also if you watch the endurance series-24hour races the drivers are always eating pasta or some kinda carbs for energy.
| KC | 05-17-2005 02:37 PM |
No, really.. that's what I do. :)
The night before? :lol: If I'm at an event, it's wherever we decide to eat.
It's auto-x... not a marathon! :lol:
--kC
The night before? :lol: If I'm at an event, it's wherever we decide to eat.
It's auto-x... not a marathon! :lol:
--kC
| LyveWRX | 05-17-2005 02:47 PM |
I will prep for long events (+8hrs seattime) by:
1) no alcohol for at least 5days before.
2) plenty of water
3) lots of sleep
4) less caffine than normal (only to remove my tolerance so it works better on rallyday)
I think that carb loading would not be very valuable since even at long events I never get teh burning muscle fatigue of bicycle racing or hockey. admittedly my heart rate is not anywhere near peak for most of the time. For autoX it seems you would want to be almost anorexic to get your wet weight down as low as possible. I like jcroy's idea of yoga. I will strech any time i am not in the car.
other than the above I try to not eat anything unusual or demanding before events, gas can really bug your co-driver.
nick
1) no alcohol for at least 5days before.
2) plenty of water
3) lots of sleep
4) less caffine than normal (only to remove my tolerance so it works better on rallyday)
I think that carb loading would not be very valuable since even at long events I never get teh burning muscle fatigue of bicycle racing or hockey. admittedly my heart rate is not anywhere near peak for most of the time. For autoX it seems you would want to be almost anorexic to get your wet weight down as low as possible. I like jcroy's idea of yoga. I will strech any time i am not in the car.
other than the above I try to not eat anything unusual or demanding before events, gas can really bug your co-driver.
nick
| zzyzx | 05-17-2005 02:48 PM |
KC, I agree. However, for the loads of money we spend on our cars and prep, it seems looking at the complete picture might shore things up. I dunno. Autox is certainly a mental game, though. I like the idea of yoga/meditation but that would be a lifestyle change for somebody who's doesn't do that regularly. Anything that could help you get a vivid mental pic of the course via coursewalks and keep you alert during your runs should be a positive impact I would think.
| gearhead | 05-17-2005 02:50 PM |
It's auto-x... not a marathon! thats very true. i was just thinking about the whole day spent in the sun and some cone chasing .
| KC | 05-17-2005 02:54 PM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx]KC, I agree. However, for the loads of money we spend on our cars and prep, it seems looking at the complete picture might shore things up. I dunno. Autox is certainly a mental game, though. I like the idea of yoga/meditation but that would be a lifestyle change for somebody who's doesn't do that regularly. Anything that could help you get a vivid mental pic of the course via coursewalks and keep you alert during your runs should be a positive impact I would think.[/QUOTE]
There is a mental aspect, in that I agree. Part of making the most of that mental aspect is to not concentrate on the whole course... just the key cones. The rest can be 'fixed' by looking ahead.
Auto-x is fun. By having to think about it takes quite a bit of fun out of it. :D
There is a mental aspect, in that I agree. Part of making the most of that mental aspect is to not concentrate on the whole course... just the key cones. The rest can be 'fixed' by looking ahead.
Auto-x is fun. By having to think about it takes quite a bit of fun out of it. :D
| DougM | 05-17-2005 02:59 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA] Wake up, eat a box of corn flakes and two bottles of water.[/QUOTE]
you eat bottled water?
that [i]IS[/i] hardcore
you eat bottled water?
that [i]IS[/i] hardcore
| Calamity Jesus | 05-17-2005 02:59 PM |
Wow, I'm suprised some of you don't take it more seriously.
Been reading this lately: [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1859608760/103-9218286-1171844?v=glance]Fit for Motorsports: Improve Your Race Performance With Better Physical and Mental Training[/url]
Been reading this lately: [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1859608760/103-9218286-1171844?v=glance]Fit for Motorsports: Improve Your Race Performance With Better Physical and Mental Training[/url]
| jcroy66 | 05-17-2005 03:07 PM |
[QUOTE=LyveWRX]no alcohol for at least 5days before.[/QUOTE]How cow, that is WAY hardcore!! I know rallying is a whole different ballgame, but WOW.
For autocross, I try not to have any alcohol for at least 5 hours before. :cool: And that's mostly because I want at least 5 hours SLEEP beforehand. :)
For autocross, I try not to have any alcohol for at least 5 hours before. :cool: And that's mostly because I want at least 5 hours SLEEP beforehand. :)
| omahasubaru | 05-17-2005 03:13 PM |
I have a pre-line and at-line routine I go through... basically when it's getting close to me being pulled off grid to go line up, I mentally drive through the course yet still moving my hands. Sometime accompanied by music. as I'm leaving grid and lining up, I take deep breaths and relax. Once at the line I go through a 'pump up' routine and say a prayer or two.
Oh... My auto-x breakfast when down in KC is usually a Mountain Dew and 'little chocolate donuts' The breakfast of Champions... at least on a regional level anyway har har. :p
Oh... My auto-x breakfast when down in KC is usually a Mountain Dew and 'little chocolate donuts' The breakfast of Champions... at least on a regional level anyway har har. :p
| WRXedUSA | 05-17-2005 03:18 PM |
[QUOTE=DougM]you eat bottled water?
that [i]IS[/i] hardcore[/QUOTE]
RarRarRARrar!!!1!1 :lol:
that [i]IS[/i] hardcore[/QUOTE]
RarRarRARrar!!!1!1 :lol:
| Jaxx | 05-17-2005 03:36 PM |
of all the above the only one that i follow is the no alcohol. but 24 hrs is plenty
i find it make a large difference on my ability to concentrate on details
i find it make a large difference on my ability to concentrate on details
| 10th Warrior | 05-17-2005 03:43 PM |
wow, this is a suprising thread! those that know me won't be suprised i don't do anything. most auto-x/rally-x i'm hung over. i never eat breakfast, but i'll have some coffee sometimes. makes being awake at 5:30am and being in Topeka again more bearable :) lunch is whatever fast food is close to the event. something like Subway is ideal, but i'll eat a greaseball burger if need be.
the only time i really think is walking the course, and maybe watching others run. when i drive, i've been trying to think less and not go for a time. i know what needs to be done to go fast, i just need to go out and do it, the time will come from that. just drive. still haven't mastered this zen approach to auto-x, but its coming along.
the only time i really think is walking the course, and maybe watching others run. when i drive, i've been trying to think less and not go for a time. i know what needs to be done to go fast, i just need to go out and do it, the time will come from that. just drive. still haven't mastered this zen approach to auto-x, but its coming along.
| zzyzx | 05-17-2005 03:48 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]still haven't mastered this zen approach to auto-x, but its coming along.[/QUOTE]
It will come with time, young grasshopper. Soon, you will be one with the cones. ;)
It will come with time, young grasshopper. Soon, you will be one with the cones. ;)
| skuttledude | 05-17-2005 03:52 PM |
I try to get some decent (6hr+) sleep
Some sort of cereal in the morning
drink water on the way to the event (I have a 2hr. drive to my local AutoX)
Drink water at the event
Eat any kind of fast food (burger usually) I can quickly inhale at lunch
drink water for the way home.
Some sort of cereal in the morning
drink water on the way to the event (I have a 2hr. drive to my local AutoX)
Drink water at the event
Eat any kind of fast food (burger usually) I can quickly inhale at lunch
drink water for the way home.
| kfoote | 05-17-2005 04:01 PM |
[QUOTE=LyveWRX]I will prep for long events (+8hrs seattime) by:
1) no alcohol for at least 5days before.
2) plenty of water
3) lots of sleep
4) less caffine than normal (only to remove my tolerance so it works better on rallyday)
I think that carb loading would not be very valuable since even at long events I never get teh burning muscle fatigue of bicycle racing or hockey. admittedly my heart rate is not anywhere near peak for most of the time. For autoX it seems you would want to be almost anorexic to get your wet weight down as low as possible. I like jcroy's idea of yoga. I will strech any time i am not in the car.
other than the above I try to not eat anything unusual or demanding before events, gas can really bug your co-driver.
nick[/QUOTE]
This is pretty much what I go by as well for SCCA races, or any event that I plan on having 1+ hr of seat time.
I have had one event where I felt muscle fatigue. I started to feel it in my neck in left hand corners about 2h 15 min into a 3 hr enduro at NHIS, where there is no real place on the track to rest. It was 95 deg, humid, and sunny, and I drove the entire 3 hrs, so I figure being fully functional later that evening means I'm not in that bad of shape, and am doing a decent job of taking care of myself.
1) no alcohol for at least 5days before.
2) plenty of water
3) lots of sleep
4) less caffine than normal (only to remove my tolerance so it works better on rallyday)
I think that carb loading would not be very valuable since even at long events I never get teh burning muscle fatigue of bicycle racing or hockey. admittedly my heart rate is not anywhere near peak for most of the time. For autoX it seems you would want to be almost anorexic to get your wet weight down as low as possible. I like jcroy's idea of yoga. I will strech any time i am not in the car.
other than the above I try to not eat anything unusual or demanding before events, gas can really bug your co-driver.
nick[/QUOTE]
This is pretty much what I go by as well for SCCA races, or any event that I plan on having 1+ hr of seat time.
I have had one event where I felt muscle fatigue. I started to feel it in my neck in left hand corners about 2h 15 min into a 3 hr enduro at NHIS, where there is no real place on the track to rest. It was 95 deg, humid, and sunny, and I drove the entire 3 hrs, so I figure being fully functional later that evening means I'm not in that bad of shape, and am doing a decent job of taking care of myself.
| SloRice | 05-17-2005 04:11 PM |
I usually get a good buzz on the night before. Get about 5 hours sleep. Wake up, grab some McD's then on the road for 40-70 minutes to get to the auto-x. Usually the hangover is gone by the time I get to the event. If not, changing the tires will get rid of it.
I've found that I race much better after a good night of drinking. I think its because I'm so relaxed (read: hungover) that I just go with the flow and become one with the car. Whereas if I get a good nights sleep, I'm so "on kill" that I usually end up over-driving the car and then I suck.
I've found that I race much better after a good night of drinking. I think its because I'm so relaxed (read: hungover) that I just go with the flow and become one with the car. Whereas if I get a good nights sleep, I'm so "on kill" that I usually end up over-driving the car and then I suck.
| crystalhelix | 05-17-2005 04:20 PM |
Sausage McMuffin w/Egg + Hashbrown + Large Diet Coke = Good Day
Bacon Egg and Cheese Biscuit + Hashbrown + Large Diet Coke = Trip to the bathroom after Tech Inspection :lol: :lol:
Bacon Egg and Cheese Biscuit + Hashbrown + Large Diet Coke = Trip to the bathroom after Tech Inspection :lol: :lol:
| AirForge | 05-17-2005 04:23 PM |
I forgot to put on deoderant at the last auto-x i went to. Good fun.
| Draken | 05-17-2005 04:46 PM |
Seriously...I'm usualy sick to my stomach before national events. I stay away from coffee, as it tends to upset my tummy anyways. Usually, lots of granola bars in my cargo shorts pockets, and lots of water/gatoraide. After i run, i head for the nearest weener kart and load up on lips, ********, and sauerkraut.
Then I pretend I'm Hoppe, touch myself in naughty ways, and reverse my brake shields. Then I know I'll win.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. We always have a traditional shot or two or three of tequilla the night before, especially at nationals, or Wendover.
Chris H.
Then I pretend I'm Hoppe, touch myself in naughty ways, and reverse my brake shields. Then I know I'll win.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. We always have a traditional shot or two or three of tequilla the night before, especially at nationals, or Wendover.
Chris H.
| trhoppe | 05-17-2005 04:55 PM |
Track Days - I don't drink the night before and have something to eat/drink the morning of
Autox - Get hammered the night before, wake up drunk at 6am, say "uhh mike, I think you should drive to the site as I'm still drunk", hopefully sober up by 4th run group. Drink some gatorade on event day. (except for nationals, there I don't drink that much the night before)
-Tom
Autox - Get hammered the night before, wake up drunk at 6am, say "uhh mike, I think you should drive to the site as I'm still drunk", hopefully sober up by 4th run group. Drink some gatorade on event day. (except for nationals, there I don't drink that much the night before)
-Tom
| trhoppe | 05-17-2005 05:05 PM |
[QUOTE=Draken]Seriously...I'm usualy sick to my stomach before national events. I stay away from coffee, as it tends to upset my tummy anyways. Usually, lots of granola bars in my cargo shorts pockets, and lots of water/gatoraide. After i run, i head for the nearest weener kart and load up on lips, ********, and sauerkraut.
Then I pretend I'm Hoppe, touch myself in naughty ways, and reverse my brake shields. Then I know I'll win.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. We always have a traditional shot or two or three of tequilla the night before, especially at nationals, or Wendover.
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
:lol: does it upset your tommy wommy? ;)
-Tom
Then I pretend I'm Hoppe, touch myself in naughty ways, and reverse my brake shields. Then I know I'll win.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. We always have a traditional shot or two or three of tequilla the night before, especially at nationals, or Wendover.
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
:lol: does it upset your tommy wommy? ;)
-Tom
| DrBiggly | 05-17-2005 05:12 PM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]Track Days - I don't drink the night before and have something to eat/drink the morning of
Autox - Get hammered the night before, wake up drunk at 6am, say "uhh mike, I think you should drive to the site as I'm still drunk", hopefully sober up by 4th run group. Drink some gatorade on event day. (except for nationals, there I don't drink that much the night before)
-Tom[/QUOTE]
I was waiting for that. :lol: :lol:
Autox - Get hammered the night before, wake up drunk at 6am, say "uhh mike, I think you should drive to the site as I'm still drunk", hopefully sober up by 4th run group. Drink some gatorade on event day. (except for nationals, there I don't drink that much the night before)
-Tom[/QUOTE]
I was waiting for that. :lol: :lol:
| Storm | 05-18-2005 01:19 AM |
I like to light BMW and Lexus models on fire while chanting the names of the drivers.... :devil:
Other than that, nothing special besides mentally running the course. Breakfast can range from a mcmuffin & coffee to a bagel & coffee. Mostly, it's just coffee. Talking to my codriver about the course helps some (maybe more for him than me) but once in the car I (try to) clear the picture for the task at hand. Run through a pre-run checklist of the car and then focus on the course again.
Too often though, I let past runs get into my head and it tends to make me overdrive to overcome. I like to be surprised when I hear the time is faster than I felt. For very good runs I'll give the car a pat on the roof..... :(
Steve.....don't even try to analyze my runs to psyche me out on grid..... ;)
Jay Storm
Other than that, nothing special besides mentally running the course. Breakfast can range from a mcmuffin & coffee to a bagel & coffee. Mostly, it's just coffee. Talking to my codriver about the course helps some (maybe more for him than me) but once in the car I (try to) clear the picture for the task at hand. Run through a pre-run checklist of the car and then focus on the course again.
Too often though, I let past runs get into my head and it tends to make me overdrive to overcome. I like to be surprised when I hear the time is faster than I felt. For very good runs I'll give the car a pat on the roof..... :(
Steve.....don't even try to analyze my runs to psyche me out on grid..... ;)
Jay Storm
| Templar | 05-18-2005 09:58 AM |
I used to really try to get psyched up and pumped up before an event, and especially before runs, but I always ended up overdriving and being too aggressive. Now I actually try to stay as relaxed as I can during an event, especially when in the car preparing to take a run. Until I pulled the stereo, I actually tried listening to Mozart and Beethoven before runs to help me calm down.
| KC | 05-18-2005 10:02 AM |
I tried that too.... 1812 Overture made me really want to go smashing cones instead of missing them. :lol:
Relaxed is key. Being relaxed allows you to think more clearly. When you do what you personally need to do to help you 'relax' is different from everyone else.
--kC
Relaxed is key. Being relaxed allows you to think more clearly. When you do what you personally need to do to help you 'relax' is different from everyone else.
--kC
| jcroy66 | 05-18-2005 11:30 AM |
[QUOTE=Draken]Then I pretend I'm Hoppe, touch myself in naughty ways[/QUOTE]:lol: Hmm, here I thought yoga was my key to relaxation. Maybe I should rethink my strategy! :devil:
I'm reminded of the quote from [i]Something about Mary[/i]:
[QUOTE]That's like going out there with a loaded gun! Of course that's why you're nervous.[/QUOTE]
I'm reminded of the quote from [i]Something about Mary[/i]:
[QUOTE]That's like going out there with a loaded gun! Of course that's why you're nervous.[/QUOTE]
| Fred | 05-18-2005 11:45 AM |
[QUOTE]I used to really try to get psyched up and pumped up before an event, and especially before runs, but I always ended up overdriving and being too aggressive.[/QUOTE]
A local (really fast) guy shared this with Tom Hoppe, who shared it with me...
If you feel like you're too pumped up at the start, just bang on the steering wheel with both hands a few times and it will calm you down. I'm not sure how this works, but it's helped me a few times.
:confused: :lol:
A local (really fast) guy shared this with Tom Hoppe, who shared it with me...
If you feel like you're too pumped up at the start, just bang on the steering wheel with both hands a few times and it will calm you down. I'm not sure how this works, but it's helped me a few times.
:confused: :lol:
| trhoppe | 05-18-2005 11:46 AM |
[QUOTE=Fred]A local (really fast) guy shared this with Tom Hoppe, who shared it with me...
If you feel like you're too pumped up at the start, just bang on the steering wheel with both hands a few times and it will calm you down. I'm not sure how this works, but it's helped me a few times.
:confused: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Oh yea, I forgot. I do that too ;)
-Tom
If you feel like you're too pumped up at the start, just bang on the steering wheel with both hands a few times and it will calm you down. I'm not sure how this works, but it's helped me a few times.
:confused: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Oh yea, I forgot. I do that too ;)
-Tom
| PhilC | 05-18-2005 12:34 PM |
My best showing at a Pro so far was in Oscoda where I spent the entire night Friday night puking my guts up because of food poisoning. Puked so hard I popped a blood vessel in my eyeball and vision in my right eye was actually tinted a bit red. I would not recommend that experience for anyone though and don't plan to repeat that method either.
My autocross mornings seem to mostly consist of "Jen are you ready YET? We've got to go..." :lol: For some reason when I'm around autocross friends that fourth margaritta and\or seventh beer and\or "just one more shot" seems to make an awful lot of sense which has a tendancy to make Sunday morning on two day events a rough one.
My autocross mornings seem to mostly consist of "Jen are you ready YET? We've got to go..." :lol: For some reason when I'm around autocross friends that fourth margaritta and\or seventh beer and\or "just one more shot" seems to make an awful lot of sense which has a tendancy to make Sunday morning on two day events a rough one.
| ExitVisa | 05-18-2005 12:55 PM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx]It will come with time, young grasshopper. Soon, you will be one with the cones. ;)[/QUOTE]
Steve, don't we get time added to our runs if we 'become one with the cones' or does that just apply to Angel?
:)
Oh, and will we have to expand your title from "Super Steve" to "Super Steve, Drift King" after the Crown event? lol
:D
Steve, don't we get time added to our runs if we 'become one with the cones' or does that just apply to Angel?
:)
Oh, and will we have to expand your title from "Super Steve" to "Super Steve, Drift King" after the Crown event? lol
:D
| trhoppe | 05-18-2005 03:11 PM |
[quote]For some reason when I'm around autocross friends that fourth margaritta and\or seventh beer and\or "just one more shot" seems to make an awful lot of sense[/quote] Quote of the day
-Tom
-Tom
| Templar | 05-18-2005 09:11 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]I tried that too.... 1812 Overture made me really want to go smashing cones instead of missing them. :lol:
Relaxed is key. Being relaxed allows you to think more clearly. When you do what you personally need to do to help you 'relax' is different from everyone else.
--kC[/QUOTE]
Yeah, when I took my RS head first into a curb at 60 mph after fighting off a spin (that would have simply killed a bunch of cones) I realized that preparing for driving should not be similiar to the way I used to mentally prepare before football, track or tennis. Approaching the race with a clear head and calm hands leads to faster times and cleaner runs...in other words...I steer clear of the Red Bull (no pun intended).
Relaxed is key. Being relaxed allows you to think more clearly. When you do what you personally need to do to help you 'relax' is different from everyone else.
--kC[/QUOTE]
Yeah, when I took my RS head first into a curb at 60 mph after fighting off a spin (that would have simply killed a bunch of cones) I realized that preparing for driving should not be similiar to the way I used to mentally prepare before football, track or tennis. Approaching the race with a clear head and calm hands leads to faster times and cleaner runs...in other words...I steer clear of the Red Bull (no pun intended).
| xcdhridr | 05-18-2005 10:36 PM |
I normally can't eat in the morning (it's just too early). I normally grab something from the food truck at the event if there is one around 11:30. No real diet. I only get an avg of 4 hours sleep the night before too. I just try to drink a TON of water (half gallon or more) while at the event. I'm always tired the next day.
This past weekend, I had a time trial school on sunday and a race on saterday. THAT was tiring. Much more intense then the Auto-X i'm used to.
This past weekend, I had a time trial school on sunday and a race on saterday. THAT was tiring. Much more intense then the Auto-X i'm used to.
| buzz313th | 05-18-2005 10:45 PM |
Usually the night before I drink Tequilla and Beer. Then before I goto sleep a little 420. Then wake up 420 and Mikey D's mcmuffin and large Dr. Pepper.
;)
;)
| Imprezivblue | 05-18-2005 10:54 PM |
To prepare I usually stay home and don't go out the night before an autox. Even tho its a friday/saturday night in a college town i resist the urge to go out. I have every intention of going to bed early but I never really sleep more than 3-4 hours before an event because I'm like a 5 year old and i'm really excited. Yes, even after 20 events I get that excited.
National events I find it even harder to behave the night before the event- but why behave with friends you see only a few times a year??? I'm slowly understanding all this nationals stuff- And they're definately more fun and relaxed atmosphere than local events. But the competition is INSANE and I love it! :D Hopefully i'll make my way out to a few more national events this year.
National events I find it even harder to behave the night before the event- but why behave with friends you see only a few times a year??? I'm slowly understanding all this nationals stuff- And they're definately more fun and relaxed atmosphere than local events. But the competition is INSANE and I love it! :D Hopefully i'll make my way out to a few more national events this year.
| makofoto | 05-18-2005 11:52 PM |
(oops ... I Replied before realizing there was a 2nd page ... and of course Tom had already responded.)
You guys realize that a bunch of the winning drivers are up way into the night before Nationals! Tom Hoppe was sending out emails at 3 AM before winning at Atlanta last month, and I believe didn't get to bed until 4 AM. Motonishi party's hardy before going out to win (he's won his last three National STS events by a COMBINED time of just over 0.1 seconds!).
Before the Atwater National Tour, Barco worked until 12 AM ... then we drove four hours to Atwater (Barco might have slept for 0.5 hours) ... slept 1.5 hours ... up for Carls Jr, and got ready to set fast time in STX.
Can you imagine how they would dominate if they did what we consider the Right Thing! :huh: :eek: :lol:
I've GOT to have a Big Breakfast and a decent lunch to keep the blood sugar up ... must have protein. Carbs just come and go too quickly. Lots of fluids. Beer and good company at the end of the day ... to be ready for the 2nd day. I wish I could get more sleep .... but 6 hours is the most I can usually muster.
You guys realize that a bunch of the winning drivers are up way into the night before Nationals! Tom Hoppe was sending out emails at 3 AM before winning at Atlanta last month, and I believe didn't get to bed until 4 AM. Motonishi party's hardy before going out to win (he's won his last three National STS events by a COMBINED time of just over 0.1 seconds!).
Before the Atwater National Tour, Barco worked until 12 AM ... then we drove four hours to Atwater (Barco might have slept for 0.5 hours) ... slept 1.5 hours ... up for Carls Jr, and got ready to set fast time in STX.
Can you imagine how they would dominate if they did what we consider the Right Thing! :huh: :eek: :lol:
I've GOT to have a Big Breakfast and a decent lunch to keep the blood sugar up ... must have protein. Carbs just come and go too quickly. Lots of fluids. Beer and good company at the end of the day ... to be ready for the 2nd day. I wish I could get more sleep .... but 6 hours is the most I can usually muster.
| DrBiggly | 05-18-2005 11:55 PM |
Dude, you should hear the stories from what goes on at Nats... :lol: :devil:
| KC | 05-19-2005 07:31 AM |
[QUOTE=DrBiggly]Dude, you should hear the stories from what goes on at Nats... :lol: :devil:[/QUOTE]
Why hear them when you can experience them? He's not married! :lol:
Why hear them when you can experience them? He's not married! :lol:
| jcroy66 | 05-19-2005 08:09 AM |
Being married doesn't have to make a difference... :devil:
<-- Doesn't know [b]anything[/b] about any "stories" from Nationals. :alien: :lol:
<-- Doesn't know [b]anything[/b] about any "stories" from Nationals. :alien: :lol:
| joey1313 | 05-19-2005 09:06 AM |
I stay up too late and get too little sleep. I seem to drive best with only a couple hours of sleep. I don't think too much and really have to concentrate on the task at hand to keep focus. Most of our regional autoxs are in the 40 second range so I only have to concentrate for a short time. For breakfast its usually a chilli dog or two and a coke.
| trhoppe | 05-19-2005 11:24 AM |
[quote]Can you imagine how they would dominate if they did what we consider the Right Thing![/quote] :lol: :lol: Thats the whole point. National tours are for training to drive while hung over. Then Nationals itself is for getting rest ;)
-Tom
-Tom
| makofoto | 05-19-2005 11:32 AM |
Really straight upstanding married guys going off into the woods with their wives after visiting the strip club ... man, I didn't know there were woods in Kansas !? :huh: :lol:
| KSwrxWAGON | 05-19-2005 01:07 PM |
Technically, Kansas doesn't have any woods...just clusters of trees! This is only my second year of autox, but last Sunday I wasn't performing very well with a hangover. My concentration was wandering on my final run. However, I don't think you really need to obstain from drinking to do well...losing 30 pounds would be nice, though. :lol:
| Skibum4444 | 05-19-2005 01:17 PM |
Sobe Green Tea, get loose, oh and lately I've been blasting old Candle Box right before I get to the line. Usually Autox will sober you up real quick. Usually you have to wake up real early, so you hit the MCD's. By the time you hit the track you need to expell your MCD's. After that bit of weight reduction, walking the track, and registering, the drivers meeting you should be all ready to go. :D
| goto_racing | 05-19-2005 02:31 PM |
Diet:
A few days before a race, I stop drinking caffiene, alcohol. I eat less oils and fats, or anything that raises the toxicity level of your blood. At the track I drink lots of water, and start eating things that have fat and salts, but nothing really heavy or greasy. Salami sandwiches on bagels are a staple. Salted nuts are a yummy snack a replace salts you've sweated into your suit through out the day.
Mental:
I spend most of the days before hand visualizing the track from memory, and doing hot laps in my brain. Once I get to the track, I start to size up the competition. See who is fast. Start visualizing who will be where during the race and how it might play out. I try to think about how I will win THIS particular race today. A good pass? Outlast the opponents car? Force someone to a mistake?
Once the starting grid is posted, I visualize the first lap in it's entirety. I try to think about how it will play out given what I know about the drivers, their cars, and were they are on today's grid. Then I make 2 or 3 different plans about what *I* will do amongst them that will get me in the position I want to execute the long term plan I made earlier.
On the grid I get nervous. Nerves to a certain point help my performance. They can get just enough adrenaline flowing to give you fast and accurate responses, but too much can make you frightened and erratic. So I make myself nervous, then control it by assigning a level of nervous to it on a scale from 1-10 (kind of like people assign values to the amount of brake or gas they apply on the track). When the grid marshall sends us out on the recon lap, I like to be at a nerve level of about 3. If I am not nervous, then I am probably in a stupid and distracted state.
Once on track, a level 3 nervevousness always channels very quickly in concentration. At the starting line (or last turn for flying start). I go over the plan again in my head, make sure it still feels right, then wait for green. Honestly I don't think I have a concious thought until about 3 or 4 laps into the race. Just execute the plan :).
Chris Lock
A few days before a race, I stop drinking caffiene, alcohol. I eat less oils and fats, or anything that raises the toxicity level of your blood. At the track I drink lots of water, and start eating things that have fat and salts, but nothing really heavy or greasy. Salami sandwiches on bagels are a staple. Salted nuts are a yummy snack a replace salts you've sweated into your suit through out the day.
Mental:
I spend most of the days before hand visualizing the track from memory, and doing hot laps in my brain. Once I get to the track, I start to size up the competition. See who is fast. Start visualizing who will be where during the race and how it might play out. I try to think about how I will win THIS particular race today. A good pass? Outlast the opponents car? Force someone to a mistake?
Once the starting grid is posted, I visualize the first lap in it's entirety. I try to think about how it will play out given what I know about the drivers, their cars, and were they are on today's grid. Then I make 2 or 3 different plans about what *I* will do amongst them that will get me in the position I want to execute the long term plan I made earlier.
On the grid I get nervous. Nerves to a certain point help my performance. They can get just enough adrenaline flowing to give you fast and accurate responses, but too much can make you frightened and erratic. So I make myself nervous, then control it by assigning a level of nervous to it on a scale from 1-10 (kind of like people assign values to the amount of brake or gas they apply on the track). When the grid marshall sends us out on the recon lap, I like to be at a nerve level of about 3. If I am not nervous, then I am probably in a stupid and distracted state.
Once on track, a level 3 nervevousness always channels very quickly in concentration. At the starting line (or last turn for flying start). I go over the plan again in my head, make sure it still feels right, then wait for green. Honestly I don't think I have a concious thought until about 3 or 4 laps into the race. Just execute the plan :).
Chris Lock
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