| bfarm | 01-09-2006 11:50 AM |
2005 STi Trailer Hitch Install
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I am about to buy a trailer hitch for my 2005 STi so I can tow AutoX Tires/Equipment. I read through several threads about wiring, appearance, etc and I have decided to go with the Drawtite Hitch from etrailers:
[url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=24710[/url]
What I am not sure about is the wiring. etrailer lists several wiring kits. I read that WRX Wagons had plug and play harnesses etc. I also read that 2004 STis did not. I have yet to find out if that has changed with 2005+ STis or not. So does anyone have any experience installing and wiring a hitch on a 2005+ WRX or STi? If so, any additional information would be appreciated. Also, pics would be nice :) I'm hoping that the Drawtite isn't too visible.
Thanks,
BFarm
[url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=24710[/url]
What I am not sure about is the wiring. etrailer lists several wiring kits. I read that WRX Wagons had plug and play harnesses etc. I also read that 2004 STis did not. I have yet to find out if that has changed with 2005+ STis or not. So does anyone have any experience installing and wiring a hitch on a 2005+ WRX or STi? If so, any additional information would be appreciated. Also, pics would be nice :) I'm hoping that the Drawtite isn't too visible.
Thanks,
BFarm
| coldfire22x | 01-09-2006 12:09 PM |
i was able to use just a generic harness like this one:
[url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18130&Category_Code=VWH[/url]
just used some vampire taps to hook into the cars electrical system. i think subaru makes the harness with a real plug if you don't want to damage the wires in your trunk
[url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18130&Category_Code=VWH[/url]
just used some vampire taps to hook into the cars electrical system. i think subaru makes the harness with a real plug if you don't want to damage the wires in your trunk
| bfarm | 01-09-2006 12:17 PM |
So you have had no problems with the extra load on the tail-light circuits? It seems that would be the reason to go with a kit that is wired directly to the car battery like this one:
[url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18146[/url]
But your method looks a lot easier and quicker.
I'll have to dig around for that Subaru Harness P/N.
[url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18146[/url]
But your method looks a lot easier and quicker.
I'll have to dig around for that Subaru Harness P/N.
| 2phless | 01-09-2006 12:52 PM |
Just build your own :cool:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=774244[/url]
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=774244[/url]
| coldfire22x | 01-09-2006 12:58 PM |
towed a trailer from OH to CA and had no problems
| couchflambeau | 01-09-2006 02:32 PM |
LOL... trailer hitch on an STi.... you should be shot..... :p
| VpointVick | 01-09-2006 02:36 PM |
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]LOL... trailer hitch on an STi.... you should be shot..... :p[/QUOTE]
Did you read his post?
Why [I]wouldn't[/I] he want to tow a small trailer when the alternatives would be:
A) Driving to events on his race rubber, or
2) Carrying nasty azz wheels and tires all up in his ride?
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Did you read his post?
Why [I]wouldn't[/I] he want to tow a small trailer when the alternatives would be:
A) Driving to events on his race rubber, or
2) Carrying nasty azz wheels and tires all up in his ride?
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
| hikeeba | 01-09-2006 03:29 PM |
I've seen hitches on STIs before. No biggie. One guy made a custom hitch-mounted rack for transporting tires only.
ScoobyMods has a few decent write-ups on hitch installs. This is my favorite, though I think it applies to 02-03 Imprezas. Bit I can't see the STi being crazy-different...
Link to complete install on 02. Good info:
[url]http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192&highlight=trailer+hitch[/url]
ScoobyMods has a few decent write-ups on hitch installs. This is my favorite, though I think it applies to 02-03 Imprezas. Bit I can't see the STi being crazy-different...
Link to complete install on 02. Good info:
[url]http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192&highlight=trailer+hitch[/url]
| bfarm | 01-09-2006 03:47 PM |
Well I ordered several pieces of equipment from etrailer including the hitch and the wiring adapter listed above. Here is my purchase list FYI:
The Hitch: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=24710[/url]
The Wiring Adapter: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18130[/url]
Drawbar: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=3593[/url]
The Ball: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=19258[/url]
Wire Splices to make it easy: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=34466000-5[/url]
And a handy hitch cover that includes a 4-flat connector holder: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=I-728&Category_Code=[/url]
Hopefully, after UPS takes 4 years to get it here, it won't take me too long to install.
BFarm
(And yes, it is for AutoX days as I don't really have a truck handy to haul my stuff around, or a 2nd driver for that matter)
The Hitch: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=24710[/url]
The Wiring Adapter: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18130[/url]
Drawbar: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=3593[/url]
The Ball: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=19258[/url]
Wire Splices to make it easy: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=34466000-5[/url]
And a handy hitch cover that includes a 4-flat connector holder: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=I-728&Category_Code=[/url]
Hopefully, after UPS takes 4 years to get it here, it won't take me too long to install.
BFarm
(And yes, it is for AutoX days as I don't really have a truck handy to haul my stuff around, or a 2nd driver for that matter)
| Chandy69 | 01-09-2006 04:14 PM |
I am selling my hitch btw. Super cheap and it will fit your car!!!
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12245433#post12245433[/url]
$95 bucks shipped ground fedex!!!
I just had it on my car but i have a HKS and they dont fit together. The HKS is a mellon shooter is the reason.
Chuck
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12245433#post12245433[/url]
$95 bucks shipped ground fedex!!!
I just had it on my car but i have a HKS and they dont fit together. The HKS is a mellon shooter is the reason.
Chuck
| hikeeba | 01-09-2006 04:18 PM |
C'mon, UPS isn't that bad. Are they? Maybe it depends where you are.
Dang bfarm, that looks like a good deal you got there! At least $45 less than the factory hitch. Hmmm... I was going to get teh factory hitch this coming spring. Could you post pics of yours once you get it installed? I'd like to see how much room the hitch leaves around the muffler. Per etrailer, the fitment looks good, but it'd be nice to see a real-world application. Thanks!
Dang bfarm, that looks like a good deal you got there! At least $45 less than the factory hitch. Hmmm... I was going to get teh factory hitch this coming spring. Could you post pics of yours once you get it installed? I'd like to see how much room the hitch leaves around the muffler. Per etrailer, the fitment looks good, but it'd be nice to see a real-world application. Thanks!
| VpointVick | 01-09-2006 04:48 PM |
[QUOTE=bfarm]
And a handy hitch cover that includes a 4-flat connector holder: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=I-728&Category_Code=[/url][/QUOTE]
That hitch cover is for a 2" receiver.
And a handy hitch cover that includes a 4-flat connector holder: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=I-728&Category_Code=[/url][/QUOTE]
That hitch cover is for a 2" receiver.
| couchflambeau | 01-09-2006 06:23 PM |
What happened o all the weight savings that you racers are lookin for? That hitch will add a good 20-40 lbs easy. Plus, a hitch on an STi.... would be like putting a hitch on a Porsche.... :p
Time to invest in a second vehicle or find a buddy with a pick-up truck to pit for ya... :D
This is a dead horse though..... but this is like putting a draft horse harness on a thoroughbred. Poor Subie!
Time to invest in a second vehicle or find a buddy with a pick-up truck to pit for ya... :D
This is a dead horse though..... but this is like putting a draft horse harness on a thoroughbred. Poor Subie!
| VpointVick | 01-09-2006 07:25 PM |
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]What happened o all the weight savings that you racers are lookin for? That hitch will add a good 20-40 lbs easy. Plus, a hitch on an STi.... would be like putting a hitch on a Porsche.... :p
Time to invest in a second vehicle or find a buddy with a pick-up truck to pit for ya... :D
This is a dead horse though..... but this is like putting a draft horse harness on a thoroughbred. Poor Subie![/QUOTE]
You are an idiot. Please DIAF.
Time to invest in a second vehicle or find a buddy with a pick-up truck to pit for ya... :D
This is a dead horse though..... but this is like putting a draft horse harness on a thoroughbred. Poor Subie![/QUOTE]
You are an idiot. Please DIAF.
| couchflambeau | 01-09-2006 08:53 PM |
A. You obvoiusly don't have a sense of humor....
B. I have no clue what DIAF is supposed to mean....
I'll pester you no more.... ;)
B. I have no clue what DIAF is supposed to mean....
I'll pester you no more.... ;)
| bfarm | 01-09-2006 11:03 PM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick]That hitch cover is for a 2" receiver.[/QUOTE]
Crud, I was actually happy about that hitch cover as it had that little storage spot for the electrical connector.
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]What happened o all the weight savings that you racers are lookin for? That hitch will add a good 20-40 lbs easy. Plus, a hitch on an STi.... would be like putting a hitch on a Porsche.... :p
Time to invest in a second vehicle or find a buddy with a pick-up truck to pit for ya... :D
This is a dead horse though..... but this is like putting a draft horse harness on a thoroughbred. Poor Subie![/QUOTE]
I don't really have any weight savings measures on my STi now, and I suppose if I was in serious competition I may consider setting up a tow vehicle etc. Right now I just want to AutoX my car in a stock class and take my tools and tires with me to the track and a light trailer is the answer. I really don't think I'll notice a huge difference with the added weight as right now the limiting factor in my racing is most certainly the driver :).
I'll gladly take pics when I get the hitch installed. I'll also weigh the hitch when I get it so we know exactly how much, in lbs, I am disgracing my thoroughbred.
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]Plus, a hitch on an STi.... would be like putting a hitch on a Porsche.... :p [/QUOTE]
Also of note, I am buying the trailer off a guy who towed it to AutoX with his Porsche Boxter S and a Z06 Vette.
Crud, I was actually happy about that hitch cover as it had that little storage spot for the electrical connector.
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]What happened o all the weight savings that you racers are lookin for? That hitch will add a good 20-40 lbs easy. Plus, a hitch on an STi.... would be like putting a hitch on a Porsche.... :p
Time to invest in a second vehicle or find a buddy with a pick-up truck to pit for ya... :D
This is a dead horse though..... but this is like putting a draft horse harness on a thoroughbred. Poor Subie![/QUOTE]
I don't really have any weight savings measures on my STi now, and I suppose if I was in serious competition I may consider setting up a tow vehicle etc. Right now I just want to AutoX my car in a stock class and take my tools and tires with me to the track and a light trailer is the answer. I really don't think I'll notice a huge difference with the added weight as right now the limiting factor in my racing is most certainly the driver :).
I'll gladly take pics when I get the hitch installed. I'll also weigh the hitch when I get it so we know exactly how much, in lbs, I am disgracing my thoroughbred.
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]Plus, a hitch on an STi.... would be like putting a hitch on a Porsche.... :p [/QUOTE]
Also of note, I am buying the trailer off a guy who towed it to AutoX with his Porsche Boxter S and a Z06 Vette.
| hikeeba | 01-09-2006 11:19 PM |
Bah! Fooey with the nah-sayers!
AS far as the hitch cover goes, you could opt to get an LED brake light one a la F1 car-type stylin' sort of...
[url]http://www.pacifichotrods.com/catalog/trailer_hitch_cover_light_-_class_ii_-_1_1_4__1384405.htm[/url]
Well, maybe its not exactly like the rear light on the F1 cars...
I highly doubt the addition of the hitch will throw your handling off. Besides, your trunk monkey will be able to easily offset the weight gain... Somehow.
AS far as the hitch cover goes, you could opt to get an LED brake light one a la F1 car-type stylin' sort of...
[url]http://www.pacifichotrods.com/catalog/trailer_hitch_cover_light_-_class_ii_-_1_1_4__1384405.htm[/url]
Well, maybe its not exactly like the rear light on the F1 cars...
I highly doubt the addition of the hitch will throw your handling off. Besides, your trunk monkey will be able to easily offset the weight gain... Somehow.
| couchflambeau | 01-10-2006 03:49 AM |
[QUOTE=bfarm]Also of note, I am buying the trailer off a guy who towed it to AutoX with his Porsche Boxter S and a Z06 Vette.[/QUOTE]
No comment...... :D
No comment...... :D
| coldfire22x | 01-10-2006 12:36 PM |
bfarm, when you get the hitch from ups, i strongly suggest you eye it up and make sure all the holes line up. mine came a bit bent and i nearly cross threaded a couple of the weld nuts because of this. just thought i'd throw that out there too ;p ow, it's a painless install
| bfarm | 01-10-2006 02:26 PM |
thanks Coldfire, I actually read your install thread and I will make sure it all lines up before I get to work. I'm glad to hear its a painless install. I have a lot of work lined up for 1 day - the hitch install being one of several Subie jobs :).
| Ryokosman | 01-10-2006 02:32 PM |
What trailer you gonna use.
I had a custom hitch built on my STi. I could pull the car in half with it :lol:
Has to weight a bit but then again I'm not about weight savings. With my Roll-bar and XM radio I've added a few pounds.
I had a custom hitch built on my STi. I could pull the car in half with it :lol:
Has to weight a bit but then again I'm not about weight savings. With my Roll-bar and XM radio I've added a few pounds.
| bfarm | 01-10-2006 02:43 PM |
I'm buying a 2yr old trailer off a local AutoXer. It's pretty sweet. I'll post pics of it also after I pick it up on Saturday. It began as one of the 4' x 6' models here:
[url]http://www.oldinc.com/eut.htm[/url]
It has the 12" wheels though. It has a large metal lock box mounted in the middle and 4 posts for holding wheel/tires.
[url]http://www.oldinc.com/eut.htm[/url]
It has the 12" wheels though. It has a large metal lock box mounted in the middle and 4 posts for holding wheel/tires.
| bfarm | 01-12-2006 03:30 PM |
According to my insanely accurate digital bathroom scale, the hitch + nuts and bolts weigh [B]18.5 lbs.[/B]
So we squeezed in at 1.5lbs under couchflambeau's estimate of 20-40lbs :cool:
[chappelle] In your face! [/chappelle]
This does not include the Draw Bar or the Hitch Ball - since those won't be on while I'm actually racing or driving around on your typical day.
So we squeezed in at 1.5lbs under couchflambeau's estimate of 20-40lbs :cool:
[chappelle] In your face! [/chappelle]
This does not include the Draw Bar or the Hitch Ball - since those won't be on while I'm actually racing or driving around on your typical day.
| VpointVick | 01-12-2006 04:46 PM |
[QUOTE=bfarm]According to my insanely accurate digital bathroom scale, the hitch + nuts and bolts weigh [B]18.5 lbs.[/B]
So we squeezed in at 1.5lbs under couchflambeau's estimate of 20-40lbs :cool:
[chappelle] In your face! [/chappelle]
This does not include the Draw Bar or the Hitch Ball - since those won't be on while I'm actually racing or driving around on your typical day.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.smartsource.com.cn/IMAGES/HS-65Mn.jpg[/IMG]
Need some lightening holes, FTW! :lol:
So we squeezed in at 1.5lbs under couchflambeau's estimate of 20-40lbs :cool:
[chappelle] In your face! [/chappelle]
This does not include the Draw Bar or the Hitch Ball - since those won't be on while I'm actually racing or driving around on your typical day.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.smartsource.com.cn/IMAGES/HS-65Mn.jpg[/IMG]
Need some lightening holes, FTW! :lol:
| h62962 | 01-13-2006 07:59 AM |
I recently bought and installed the hitch you're interested in (put it on a 05 WRX sedan) from etrailer.com (from whom I've bought a few hitches and they seem to be by far the cheapest around). Don't know why the plug for the wiring harness connector is not installed on the sedan, but it's not there (of course I assumed it was and bought the factory harness before I opened up the car)(it's expensive by the way; most online were close to $100. I think I finally found it for like $79, but had to return it). Anyway, both Draw-Tite and Subaru (I checked with a dealer's service manager) recommend hard wiring the trailer harness. The lighting circuits aren't fused high enough to carry the extra load (their explanation). Draw-Tite's Modu-Lite harness runs right off the battery (and has its' own fuse) and is actually neater and easier to install than it might sound (use a 12 gauge marine grade in-line fuse holder). I've had no problems (utility trailer regularly, 16' Wahoo once in a while). All this said, it seems a number of the members here have just spilced into the wires in back. I guess you'd most likely get away with that, but I prefer to do things right (given a choice) and used the recommended method (probably also safer from a warranty standpoint). The hitch install went pretty well. The only flaw was that (on the WRX anyway) I had to leave off one of the two rubber hangers (the inside one) that hold up the muffler (from a sketch that I recall seeing, this second hanger may have been added when Subaru went to the new single tailpipe design). I couldn't quite get it back on, and if I forced it, the muffler would be right up solid against the hitch. The hangers are quite heavy duty and it seems to be fine with just the one. I figure the worst that can happen is that the remaining hanger fails a little ealier than normal.
| jonney_boy | 01-13-2006 12:53 PM |
Many trailers now come with (or can be fitted) with led lights (brake, marker, etc).
These will reduce the draw substantially over regular light bulbs and may allow you to safely run with the "stock" wiring.
These will reduce the draw substantially over regular light bulbs and may allow you to safely run with the "stock" wiring.
| BGPKR | 01-13-2006 03:29 PM |
I've been wanting to install a hitch. The only thing holding me back is finding one that will work with my exhaust. Apexi GT Spec. Does anyone know of a hitch that will work with aftermarket exhausts?
| coldfire22x | 01-13-2006 03:46 PM |
[QUOTE=h62962]I recently bought and installed the hitch you're interested in (put it on a 05 WRX sedan) from etrailer.com (from whom I've bought a few hitches and they seem to be by far the cheapest around). Don't know why the plug for the wiring harness connector is not installed on the sedan, but it's not there (of course I assumed it was and bought the factory harness before I opened up the car)(it's expensive by the way; most online were close to $100. I think I finally found it for like $79, but had to return it). Anyway, both Draw-Tite and Subaru (I checked with a dealer's service manager) recommend hard wiring the trailer harness. The lighting circuits aren't fused high enough to carry the extra load (their explanation). Draw-Tite's Modu-Lite harness runs right off the battery (and has its' own fuse) and is actually neater and easier to install than it might sound (use a 12 gauge marine grade in-line fuse holder). I've had no problems (utility trailer regularly, 16' Wahoo once in a while). All this said, it seems a number of the members here have just spilced into the wires in back. I guess you'd most likely get away with that, but I prefer to do things right (given a choice) and used the recommended method (probably also safer from a warranty standpoint). The hitch install went pretty well. The only flaw was that (on the WRX anyway) I had to leave off one of the two rubber hangers (the inside one) that hold up the muffler (from a sketch that I recall seeing, this second hanger may have been added when Subaru went to the new single tailpipe design). I couldn't quite get it back on, and if I forced it, the muffler would be right up solid against the hitch. The hangers are quite heavy duty and it seems to be fine with just the one. I figure the worst that can happen is that the remaining hanger fails a little ealier than normal.[/QUOTE]
i imagine the worst that could happen is you would blow a fuse, no? i doubt that adding 2-5 bulbs will increase the load enough to burn out a 10+ amp fuse ... but i guess given certain circumstances, it could ;P
the reese/hidden-hitch/draw-tite hitch actually changes one of the mounting points so that the muffler hangs lower. can't remember if i posted pics or not, but there's at least a 1/4" clearance from the stock '05 muffler
if you have a huge muffler, the kartboy longs might get you that extra room you need too
i imagine the worst that could happen is you would blow a fuse, no? i doubt that adding 2-5 bulbs will increase the load enough to burn out a 10+ amp fuse ... but i guess given certain circumstances, it could ;P
the reese/hidden-hitch/draw-tite hitch actually changes one of the mounting points so that the muffler hangs lower. can't remember if i posted pics or not, but there's at least a 1/4" clearance from the stock '05 muffler
if you have a huge muffler, the kartboy longs might get you that extra room you need too
| h62962 | 01-13-2006 05:05 PM |
On the Draw-Tite, The OE bracket that holds the outside muffler hanger is removed so the hitch can be bolted to the OE "weldnuts" (and re-attach the muffler hanger to the supplied bolt). This allows you to re-use the outside hanger, but since the muffler is a little lower, the inside hanger will no longer fit but it does allow a stong 1/4" of clearence.
| nhsilversti | 01-13-2006 05:27 PM |
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]LOL... trailer hitch on an STi.... you should be shot..... :p[/QUOTE]
ok shoot me! before i run the prop over you.....
[IMG]http://webpages.charter.net/dropwire/car/STI%20BOAT.jpg[/IMG]
ok shoot me! before i run the prop over you.....
[IMG]http://webpages.charter.net/dropwire/car/STI%20BOAT.jpg[/IMG]
| Ryokosman | 01-13-2006 06:30 PM |
[QUOTE=nhsilversti]ok shoot me! before i run the prop over you.....
[/QUOTE]
AWSOME! Best pic evAr!
[/QUOTE]
AWSOME! Best pic evAr!
| bfarm | 01-13-2006 11:59 PM |
I don't suppose you have a pic of this do you?
[QUOTE=h62962]On the Draw-Tite, The OE bracket that holds the outside muffler hanger is removed so the hitch can be bolted to the OE "weldnuts" (and re-attach the muffler hanger to the supplied bolt). This allows you to re-use the outside hanger, but since the muffler is a little lower, the inside hanger will no longer fit but it does allow a stong 1/4" of clearence.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=h62962]On the Draw-Tite, The OE bracket that holds the outside muffler hanger is removed so the hitch can be bolted to the OE "weldnuts" (and re-attach the muffler hanger to the supplied bolt). This allows you to re-use the outside hanger, but since the muffler is a little lower, the inside hanger will no longer fit but it does allow a stong 1/4" of clearence.[/QUOTE]
| hikeeba | 01-14-2006 08:51 AM |
That pic a few posts above with the boat RAWKS! I've been thinking about getting a hitch for a long time. I know I have a wagon, and a hitch wouldn't be that odd, but now I'm thinking of it as a useful part [B]and[/B] a cool bling-bling part at the same time! Ok, so maybe I'm whacked. But I want one.
| bfarm | 01-22-2006 11:51 PM |
I finished my hitch install today. It took me several hours, but I learned some things in the process. I think some of this may be useful if you install a hitch yourself, especially if it's on an STi:
1) Hitch fitment / bent Hitch: I had a little trouble getting my hitch to line up at first, but I solved this problem. Initially I installed 1 bolt loosely over near the exhaust, then tried to fit 1 bolt to mount the hitch over by the carbon box. I could not get this bolt to line up. I took off the 1st bolt, then put 1 bolt through the hitch over by the carbon box. This allowed me to then put a 2nd bolt through the hitch over by the exhaust. Leason Learned: Put a bolt through the hitch over by the carbon box first, it allows more maneuvering for some reason.
2) Exhaust hangers: I was able to get ALL the stock hangers back on. The key to doing this was to unhook 3 hangers - the 2 by the exhaust and then the next one up the exhaust piping toward the front. Then, get the hitch entirely mounted. Then, re-hang the hanger that is to the right (if you are standing up behind the car) of the exhaust first. Then do the hanger that's to the left of the exhaust, then the hanger that is next towards the front of the car along the exhaust.
3) Wiring Harness: I used this harness: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18130&Category_Code=VWH[/url]
I had a bit of trouble getting everything to work right and I had some weird scenarios involving my tail-lights where the running lights would dim as the blinker blinked etc. Now it is all good to go, I just had some wires incorrectly hooked up. Here is how you hook up that wiring harness linked above to the tail-lights of a 2005 STi (note that tail lights are designated as if you are standing behind the car and looking at the butt):
Function Harness Wire Color Car Wire Location / Wire Color / Stripe
Right Turn Green Right Tail Light / Mint Green/ Black
Stop Red Left Tail Light / White / Black
Left Turn Yellow Left Tail Light / Black / Green
Tail Lights Brown Left Tail Light / Red / Yellow
Ground White Left Tail Light Screw (Grind Chassis Paint)
Another important point, as noted above, is to ensure you grind some chassis paint off if you use one of the tail light mounting screws as the ground point as I did. Even so, if you have trouble getting the trailer lights to function, try rotating the ground around a bit to really make sure it gets contact with the chassis.
The End.
BFarm
1) Hitch fitment / bent Hitch: I had a little trouble getting my hitch to line up at first, but I solved this problem. Initially I installed 1 bolt loosely over near the exhaust, then tried to fit 1 bolt to mount the hitch over by the carbon box. I could not get this bolt to line up. I took off the 1st bolt, then put 1 bolt through the hitch over by the carbon box. This allowed me to then put a 2nd bolt through the hitch over by the exhaust. Leason Learned: Put a bolt through the hitch over by the carbon box first, it allows more maneuvering for some reason.
2) Exhaust hangers: I was able to get ALL the stock hangers back on. The key to doing this was to unhook 3 hangers - the 2 by the exhaust and then the next one up the exhaust piping toward the front. Then, get the hitch entirely mounted. Then, re-hang the hanger that is to the right (if you are standing up behind the car) of the exhaust first. Then do the hanger that's to the left of the exhaust, then the hanger that is next towards the front of the car along the exhaust.
3) Wiring Harness: I used this harness: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=18130&Category_Code=VWH[/url]
I had a bit of trouble getting everything to work right and I had some weird scenarios involving my tail-lights where the running lights would dim as the blinker blinked etc. Now it is all good to go, I just had some wires incorrectly hooked up. Here is how you hook up that wiring harness linked above to the tail-lights of a 2005 STi (note that tail lights are designated as if you are standing behind the car and looking at the butt):
Function Harness Wire Color Car Wire Location / Wire Color / Stripe
Right Turn Green Right Tail Light / Mint Green/ Black
Stop Red Left Tail Light / White / Black
Left Turn Yellow Left Tail Light / Black / Green
Tail Lights Brown Left Tail Light / Red / Yellow
Ground White Left Tail Light Screw (Grind Chassis Paint)
Another important point, as noted above, is to ensure you grind some chassis paint off if you use one of the tail light mounting screws as the ground point as I did. Even so, if you have trouble getting the trailer lights to function, try rotating the ground around a bit to really make sure it gets contact with the chassis.
The End.
BFarm
| bfarm | 01-23-2006 11:56 AM |
Cool Hitch Cover Hard to Find
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Any other WRX/STi owners out there with a hitch having a tough time finding a good 1 1/4" hitch cover?
I've googled and ebayed and I just can't seem to find anything that I'd like to stick on the back of my Sti. Ideally, I could find something wide to help cover the chain rings under my hitch as well. I may end up drawing up a design in AutoCAD and getting a local place to fab one for me...
If you have a good hitch cover, show it off here!!
I've googled and ebayed and I just can't seem to find anything that I'd like to stick on the back of my Sti. Ideally, I could find something wide to help cover the chain rings under my hitch as well. I may end up drawing up a design in AutoCAD and getting a local place to fab one for me...
If you have a good hitch cover, show it off here!!
| Vampyr | 01-23-2006 12:11 PM |
a trailer hitch on an STi... (only in America :rolleyes: )
| BLK REX | 01-23-2006 12:24 PM |
WOuldnt the hitch add some stiffness in that part of the chassis? (Im not sure how much flex there is back there)
| couchflambeau | 01-23-2006 12:53 PM |
[QUOTE=Vampyr]a trailer hitch on an STi... (only in America :rolleyes: )[/QUOTE]
SEE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! ....LOL!!
SEE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! ....LOL!!
| Imprezive_04 | 01-23-2006 01:18 PM |
flame me all you want, but come on, what is with all these people with thirty thousand dollar cars that cant afford a $500 used pick up truck and a wife or friend to drive with them. A trailer hitch on an STi is a disgrace to the car gods. If you can afford rallyX then you can afford to get your tires there another way.
| Ryokosman | 01-23-2006 01:26 PM |
[QUOTE=Imprezive_04]flame me all you want, but come on, what is with all these people with thirty thousand dollar cars that cant afford a $500 used pick up truck and a wife or friend to drive with them. A trailer hitch on an STi is a disgrace to the car gods. If you can afford rallyX then you can afford to get your tires there another way.[/QUOTE]
I have a hitch with 2" receiver on my STi. Whoope-de-doo. I must suck so bad...
Can't believe someone would put a hitch on a 4 door sedan? How unbelievable.
BTW some of us can afford trucks just fine. But I'm not gonna load my car on a tralier towed behind a $500 pickup... I want to MAKE it somewhere. :lol:
I have a hitch with 2" receiver on my STi. Whoope-de-doo. I must suck so bad...
Can't believe someone would put a hitch on a 4 door sedan? How unbelievable.
BTW some of us can afford trucks just fine. But I'm not gonna load my car on a tralier towed behind a $500 pickup... I want to MAKE it somewhere. :lol:
| bfarm | 01-23-2006 03:23 PM |
Seriously - it's 18.5 lbs, and that doesn't take into account the loss of weight due to the removed tie downs and exhaust bracket. Adding a sub-box and amp in your trunk will add as much or more weight.
What is it that you have such a problem with?
The added weight on a performance car? (not much)
The aesthetic degradation? (it's not all that noticeable)
Just the principle? (I bought my STi as a kickass do everything car. I pick up groceries in it, I haul stuff, I commute, I race, I'll slap a baby seat in there when the time comes - and it does it all well)
As for cost of truck, you are aware that AutoX costs $20-35 per event right? Not exactly the most expensive sport out there. Then you have to buy a large enough trailer to tow your car, then find a place to store a huge trailer - mine can fit into a parking spot at an apt. complex.
And last I checked $30k for a car wasn't exactly supremo pricing - a new minivan costs you that much. It's not like I'm going cross-country camping towing a camper with a Ferrari here. The 2000lb towing spec is actually stated in the owner's manual for the STi.
[QUOTE=Imprezive_04]flame me all you want, but come on, what is with all these people with thirty thousand dollar cars that cant afford a $500 used pick up truck and a wife or friend to drive with them. A trailer hitch on an STi is a disgrace to the car gods. If you can afford rallyX then you can afford to get your tires there another way.[/QUOTE]
What is it that you have such a problem with?
The added weight on a performance car? (not much)
The aesthetic degradation? (it's not all that noticeable)
Just the principle? (I bought my STi as a kickass do everything car. I pick up groceries in it, I haul stuff, I commute, I race, I'll slap a baby seat in there when the time comes - and it does it all well)
As for cost of truck, you are aware that AutoX costs $20-35 per event right? Not exactly the most expensive sport out there. Then you have to buy a large enough trailer to tow your car, then find a place to store a huge trailer - mine can fit into a parking spot at an apt. complex.
And last I checked $30k for a car wasn't exactly supremo pricing - a new minivan costs you that much. It's not like I'm going cross-country camping towing a camper with a Ferrari here. The 2000lb towing spec is actually stated in the owner's manual for the STi.
[QUOTE=Imprezive_04]flame me all you want, but come on, what is with all these people with thirty thousand dollar cars that cant afford a $500 used pick up truck and a wife or friend to drive with them. A trailer hitch on an STi is a disgrace to the car gods. If you can afford rallyX then you can afford to get your tires there another way.[/QUOTE]
| Vampyr | 01-24-2006 07:42 AM |
[QUOTE=bfarm]
What is it that you have such a problem with?
The added weight on a performance car? (not much)
The aesthetic degradation? (it's not all that noticeable)
Just the principle? (I bought my STi as a kickass do everything car. I pick up groceries in it, I haul stuff, I commute, I race, I'll slap a baby seat in there when the time comes - and it does it all well)
[/QUOTE]
I think the problem with a tow hook on an STi comes from the saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket". You are taking a sports car, that has been designed, developed, and tuned for the autosports minded driver and using it for a utility vehicle. Which it was not designed to be.
It's the same exact principle of me putting dirt tires on my Suzuki GSX-R 600 streetbike and taking it off road. yes.... It can be done, but that's not what it was designed to do.
Just because the manual says you can do it, doesn't mean it should be done. The manual is nothing more than having documentation so that Subaru can cover their legal ass.
But hey... do what you want, that's what America is about, buying the things Americans want... NOT what Americans need.
What is it that you have such a problem with?
The added weight on a performance car? (not much)
The aesthetic degradation? (it's not all that noticeable)
Just the principle? (I bought my STi as a kickass do everything car. I pick up groceries in it, I haul stuff, I commute, I race, I'll slap a baby seat in there when the time comes - and it does it all well)
[/QUOTE]
I think the problem with a tow hook on an STi comes from the saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket". You are taking a sports car, that has been designed, developed, and tuned for the autosports minded driver and using it for a utility vehicle. Which it was not designed to be.
It's the same exact principle of me putting dirt tires on my Suzuki GSX-R 600 streetbike and taking it off road. yes.... It can be done, but that's not what it was designed to do.
Just because the manual says you can do it, doesn't mean it should be done. The manual is nothing more than having documentation so that Subaru can cover their legal ass.
But hey... do what you want, that's what America is about, buying the things Americans want... NOT what Americans need.
| VpointVick | 01-24-2006 08:02 AM |
[QUOTE=Vampyr]I think the problem with a tow hook on an STi comes from the saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket". You are taking a sports car, that has been designed, developed, and tuned for the autosports minded driver and using it for a utility vehicle. Which it was not designed to be.
It's the same exact principle of me putting dirt tires on my Suzuki GSX-R 600 streetbike and taking it off road. yes.... It can be done, but that's not what it was designed to do.
Just because the manual says you can do it, doesn't mean it should be done. The manual is nothing more than having documentation so that Subaru can cover their legal ass.
But hey... do what you want, that's what America is about, buying the things Americans want... NOT what Americans need.[/QUOTE]
[rant]
It's not like he's towing a travel trailer with it. He's pulling a 4'x6' utility trailer with his tools and his race rubber. Probably 300 lbs max.
Do you anti-trailer hitch types think that a hitch-mount bike rack is sacrilege too? How come nobody tells guys with ski racks on the roof of their STis that they should be shot?
I don't remember anyone having a problem with putting a hitch on a wagon, 2.5rs, or OBS. Why not? The STi has more torque, and a stronger transmission. Seems to me like it would be better suited for towing.
Get over yourselves. It's not a Ferrari. Sure it's kind of sporty, but putting a small trailer behind it is not going to be the end of the world.
[/rant]
It's the same exact principle of me putting dirt tires on my Suzuki GSX-R 600 streetbike and taking it off road. yes.... It can be done, but that's not what it was designed to do.
Just because the manual says you can do it, doesn't mean it should be done. The manual is nothing more than having documentation so that Subaru can cover their legal ass.
But hey... do what you want, that's what America is about, buying the things Americans want... NOT what Americans need.[/QUOTE]
[rant]
It's not like he's towing a travel trailer with it. He's pulling a 4'x6' utility trailer with his tools and his race rubber. Probably 300 lbs max.
Do you anti-trailer hitch types think that a hitch-mount bike rack is sacrilege too? How come nobody tells guys with ski racks on the roof of their STis that they should be shot?
I don't remember anyone having a problem with putting a hitch on a wagon, 2.5rs, or OBS. Why not? The STi has more torque, and a stronger transmission. Seems to me like it would be better suited for towing.
Get over yourselves. It's not a Ferrari. Sure it's kind of sporty, but putting a small trailer behind it is not going to be the end of the world.
[/rant]
| hikeeba | 01-24-2006 09:48 AM |
^^^^ Don't forget the STI has better brakes, too!
Yea, it's not like the STI is a pure-bred sports car. It's a Subaru! If you think about it, the basic structural design of the STI does resemble that of the other Imprezas. It is separated by the rest of the line by a more powerful drivetrain, better suspension and brakes, and a more rigid chassis. Hmmm... It sounds to me like an STI might be better suited to towing my 4x8 trailer than my wagon... Hmmmm... Anyhoo, It's a low-profile hitch that lends another dimension of useability to the car. Why not?
As long as you can use it, I'm all for the hitch on the STI. Maybe I'll try to sell teh wife on getting us an STI because it may be better suited to fetching landscape materials each spring.
Yea, it's not like the STI is a pure-bred sports car. It's a Subaru! If you think about it, the basic structural design of the STI does resemble that of the other Imprezas. It is separated by the rest of the line by a more powerful drivetrain, better suspension and brakes, and a more rigid chassis. Hmmm... It sounds to me like an STI might be better suited to towing my 4x8 trailer than my wagon... Hmmmm... Anyhoo, It's a low-profile hitch that lends another dimension of useability to the car. Why not?
As long as you can use it, I'm all for the hitch on the STI. Maybe I'll try to sell teh wife on getting us an STI because it may be better suited to fetching landscape materials each spring.
| Vampyr | 01-24-2006 10:02 AM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick][rant]
It's not like he's towing a travel trailer with it. He's pulling a 4'x6' utility trailer with his tools and his race rubber. Probably 300 lbs max.
Do you anti-trailer hitch types think that a hitch-mount bike rack is sacrilege too? How come nobody tells guys with ski racks on the roof of their STis that they should be shot?
I don't remember anyone having a problem with putting a hitch on a wagon, 2.5rs, or OBS. Why not? The STi has more torque, and a stronger transmission. Seems to me like it would be better suited for towing.
Get over yourselves. It's not a Ferrari. Sure it's kind of sporty, but putting a small trailer behind it is not going to be the end of the world.
[/rant][/QUOTE]
Actually... manual transmissions tend to be worse for towing than an automatic. Semitrucks need 12+ gear manual trannys to be able to safely shift gears when towing.
The other thing is that the wing on a STi causes downforce, which is something you DON'T want when towing something.
A ski rack or bike rack? that's because those units are mounted directly to the vehicle and would only cause an aerodynamic drag on the vehicle. They do not have their own seperate mass.
Why don't people complain about other Subaru models when they are towing? Well... first of all, the STi is one of the more expensive cars in the Subaru lineup. Why pay 30,000+ for the top of the line model when you can spend 20,000+ for a car that can tow the same?
Second... the STi model has the research of racing behind it, meaning Subaru specifically makes the STi to adhere to WRC rules. Meaning, the suspension setup, engine tune, etc... are built by Subaru based on the car 'as is'. You add a few hundred pounds to the rear of the car and you are driving the car outside of its intended setup.
I personally don't have a problem with STi that tow stuff. I knew a guy who had a 96 Camaro Z28, and he towed a small boat and a uhaul with it... unfortunately, even though the manual says what you can tow, it didn't say anything about the unibody frame being twisted. His t-tops flew off one day because his towing caused the car's frame to go out of alignment.
But like I said... The USofA is about people who buy what they want, NOT what they actually need. EVERYONE who buys a STi, buys it because that is what they want. No one needs a 300hp, 0-60 in 4.9sec, AWD car that gets about 15mpg. We all just want one!
It's not like he's towing a travel trailer with it. He's pulling a 4'x6' utility trailer with his tools and his race rubber. Probably 300 lbs max.
Do you anti-trailer hitch types think that a hitch-mount bike rack is sacrilege too? How come nobody tells guys with ski racks on the roof of their STis that they should be shot?
I don't remember anyone having a problem with putting a hitch on a wagon, 2.5rs, or OBS. Why not? The STi has more torque, and a stronger transmission. Seems to me like it would be better suited for towing.
Get over yourselves. It's not a Ferrari. Sure it's kind of sporty, but putting a small trailer behind it is not going to be the end of the world.
[/rant][/QUOTE]
Actually... manual transmissions tend to be worse for towing than an automatic. Semitrucks need 12+ gear manual trannys to be able to safely shift gears when towing.
The other thing is that the wing on a STi causes downforce, which is something you DON'T want when towing something.
A ski rack or bike rack? that's because those units are mounted directly to the vehicle and would only cause an aerodynamic drag on the vehicle. They do not have their own seperate mass.
Why don't people complain about other Subaru models when they are towing? Well... first of all, the STi is one of the more expensive cars in the Subaru lineup. Why pay 30,000+ for the top of the line model when you can spend 20,000+ for a car that can tow the same?
Second... the STi model has the research of racing behind it, meaning Subaru specifically makes the STi to adhere to WRC rules. Meaning, the suspension setup, engine tune, etc... are built by Subaru based on the car 'as is'. You add a few hundred pounds to the rear of the car and you are driving the car outside of its intended setup.
I personally don't have a problem with STi that tow stuff. I knew a guy who had a 96 Camaro Z28, and he towed a small boat and a uhaul with it... unfortunately, even though the manual says what you can tow, it didn't say anything about the unibody frame being twisted. His t-tops flew off one day because his towing caused the car's frame to go out of alignment.
But like I said... The USofA is about people who buy what they want, NOT what they actually need. EVERYONE who buys a STi, buys it because that is what they want. No one needs a 300hp, 0-60 in 4.9sec, AWD car that gets about 15mpg. We all just want one!
| VpointVick | 01-24-2006 10:45 AM |
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Actually... manual transmissions tend to be worse for towing than an automatic. Semitrucks need 12+ gear manual trannys to be able to safely shift gears when towing.[/QUOTE]
Semi trucks need 12+ gears because they don't rev like your STi. They need to stay down low in the rpm range.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]The other thing is that the wing on a STi causes downforce, which is something you DON'T want when towing something.[/QUOTE]
The amount of downforce created by the STi wing is debateable, and again, you're not going to be towing a travel trailer with it. Stability is not going to be that much of an issue.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]A ski rack or bike rack? that's because those units are mounted directly to the vehicle and would only cause an aerodynamic drag on the vehicle. They do not have their own seperate mass.[/QUOTE]
See above. We're not talking about a travel trailer.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Why don't people complain about other Subaru models when they are towing? Well... first of all, the STi is one of the more expensive cars in the Subaru lineup. Why pay 30,000+ for the top of the line model when you can spend 20,000+ for a car that can tow the same?[/QUOTE]
No one is going to buy an STi, or even an OBS, as a dedicated tow vehicle. I wouldn't imagine the towing capacity has ever entered the mind of anyone who has ever considered buying an STi, so, the thought "I ight have to drag some bricks home from Lowes sometime, so I'll get the OBS instead of the STi, and save myself $10k" has probably never crossed anyones mind.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Second... the STi model has the research of racing behind it, meaning Subaru specifically makes the STi to adhere to WRC rules.[/Quote]
Where does a 2.5L engine fit into WRC rules?
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Meaning, the suspension setup, engine tune, etc... are built by Subaru based on the car 'as is'. You add a few hundred pounds to the rear of the car and you are driving the car outside of its intended setup.[/QUOTE]
True. but you're not going to be pushing the car to the edge of it's peformance limit under those conditions are you? I think there will still be some margin for safety.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]I personally don't have a problem with STi that tow stuff. I knew a guy who had a 96 Camaro Z28, and he towed a small boat and a uhaul with it... unfortunately, even though the manual says what you can tow, it didn't say anything about the unibody frame being twisted. His t-tops flew off one day because his towing caused the car's frame to go out of alignment.[/QUOTE]
No t-tops in an Impreza. Again the STi, being a sedan, has a more rigid chassis than the wagon, making it a better candidate for towing with than the OBS.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]But like I said... The USofA is about people who buy what they want, NOT what they actually need. EVERYONE who buys a STi, buys it because that is what they want. No one needs a 300hp, 0-60 in 4.9sec, AWD car that gets about 15mpg. We all just want one![/QUOTE]
I still don't understand why anyone thinks that you would NEED a support vehicle and a trailer to transport your STi to an auto-x. :huh: This is a grassroots sport with most people on very low budgets. We only have 1 or 2 people who tow to the local events in our region, and they only do it because they like to be comfy in their RV's in between their run group and their work group.
I just can't understand the mentality here. I bought my wagon so I could have fun on the track AND haul isht home from Lowes AND get my bikes to the trailhead AND camp out of it. The thing that makes these cars great is their versatility. If I had wanted a car JUST for auto-x, I'd have gotten a Miata, S-2000, or Mini Cooper S.
Semi trucks need 12+ gears because they don't rev like your STi. They need to stay down low in the rpm range.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]The other thing is that the wing on a STi causes downforce, which is something you DON'T want when towing something.[/QUOTE]
The amount of downforce created by the STi wing is debateable, and again, you're not going to be towing a travel trailer with it. Stability is not going to be that much of an issue.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]A ski rack or bike rack? that's because those units are mounted directly to the vehicle and would only cause an aerodynamic drag on the vehicle. They do not have their own seperate mass.[/QUOTE]
See above. We're not talking about a travel trailer.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Why don't people complain about other Subaru models when they are towing? Well... first of all, the STi is one of the more expensive cars in the Subaru lineup. Why pay 30,000+ for the top of the line model when you can spend 20,000+ for a car that can tow the same?[/QUOTE]
No one is going to buy an STi, or even an OBS, as a dedicated tow vehicle. I wouldn't imagine the towing capacity has ever entered the mind of anyone who has ever considered buying an STi, so, the thought "I ight have to drag some bricks home from Lowes sometime, so I'll get the OBS instead of the STi, and save myself $10k" has probably never crossed anyones mind.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Second... the STi model has the research of racing behind it, meaning Subaru specifically makes the STi to adhere to WRC rules.[/Quote]
Where does a 2.5L engine fit into WRC rules?
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Meaning, the suspension setup, engine tune, etc... are built by Subaru based on the car 'as is'. You add a few hundred pounds to the rear of the car and you are driving the car outside of its intended setup.[/QUOTE]
True. but you're not going to be pushing the car to the edge of it's peformance limit under those conditions are you? I think there will still be some margin for safety.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]I personally don't have a problem with STi that tow stuff. I knew a guy who had a 96 Camaro Z28, and he towed a small boat and a uhaul with it... unfortunately, even though the manual says what you can tow, it didn't say anything about the unibody frame being twisted. His t-tops flew off one day because his towing caused the car's frame to go out of alignment.[/QUOTE]
No t-tops in an Impreza. Again the STi, being a sedan, has a more rigid chassis than the wagon, making it a better candidate for towing with than the OBS.
[QUOTE=Vampyr]But like I said... The USofA is about people who buy what they want, NOT what they actually need. EVERYONE who buys a STi, buys it because that is what they want. No one needs a 300hp, 0-60 in 4.9sec, AWD car that gets about 15mpg. We all just want one![/QUOTE]
I still don't understand why anyone thinks that you would NEED a support vehicle and a trailer to transport your STi to an auto-x. :huh: This is a grassroots sport with most people on very low budgets. We only have 1 or 2 people who tow to the local events in our region, and they only do it because they like to be comfy in their RV's in between their run group and their work group.
I just can't understand the mentality here. I bought my wagon so I could have fun on the track AND haul isht home from Lowes AND get my bikes to the trailhead AND camp out of it. The thing that makes these cars great is their versatility. If I had wanted a car JUST for auto-x, I'd have gotten a Miata, S-2000, or Mini Cooper S.
| bfarm | 01-24-2006 11:36 AM |
:lol: What a funny argument thread. Like as said before, I'm towing probably around 300lbs, and I'll be driving cautiously (until I get to the AutoX :disco: ).
I think if my car's going to break, it's going to be when I'm hammering it at an AutoX not when I'm accelerating 0-60 in 25 seconds on a flat road towing an extra 300lbs to get there.
Back to the hitch cover, here's what I'm looking at doing:
Buying one of these: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=5351&Category_Code=TC114[/url]
And then attaching/bolting/3M Taping something to it, hopefully to cover up the chain hooks a bit. I am considering one of these products, or possibly getting a shape cut from a materials place around here somewhere and maybe etching it myself:
[url]http://www.fastwrx.com/stititbad.html[/url] (Kinda Small)
[url]http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?CategoryID=1764&NodeID=5453&RootID=1414[/url] (Don't need the mounting holes)
[url]http://www.subieshop.com/ststpltr0.html[/url] (Cheap :) )
[url]http://www.subieshop.com/mer-tp2.html[/url] (Anyone know the dimensions on the 06 front bumper space? They don't have them listed yet)
[url]http://www.autospeedperformance.com/[/url] (Go to Subaru -> Bumper Trim -> I'm thinking of the 04+ Black Plate with STi logo)
[url]http://www.fastwrx.com/piggydecals.html[/url] (Gotta love the Pig)
In the case of the last item, the sticker, I'd have to maybe get a larger plate cut to stick it to, then attach that to the above mentioned hitch cover.
Thoughts? Opinions?
I think if my car's going to break, it's going to be when I'm hammering it at an AutoX not when I'm accelerating 0-60 in 25 seconds on a flat road towing an extra 300lbs to get there.
Back to the hitch cover, here's what I'm looking at doing:
Buying one of these: [url]http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=5351&Category_Code=TC114[/url]
And then attaching/bolting/3M Taping something to it, hopefully to cover up the chain hooks a bit. I am considering one of these products, or possibly getting a shape cut from a materials place around here somewhere and maybe etching it myself:
[url]http://www.fastwrx.com/stititbad.html[/url] (Kinda Small)
[url]http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?CategoryID=1764&NodeID=5453&RootID=1414[/url] (Don't need the mounting holes)
[url]http://www.subieshop.com/ststpltr0.html[/url] (Cheap :) )
[url]http://www.subieshop.com/mer-tp2.html[/url] (Anyone know the dimensions on the 06 front bumper space? They don't have them listed yet)
[url]http://www.autospeedperformance.com/[/url] (Go to Subaru -> Bumper Trim -> I'm thinking of the 04+ Black Plate with STi logo)
[url]http://www.fastwrx.com/piggydecals.html[/url] (Gotta love the Pig)
In the case of the last item, the sticker, I'd have to maybe get a larger plate cut to stick it to, then attach that to the above mentioned hitch cover.
Thoughts? Opinions?
| VpointVick | 01-24-2006 11:42 AM |
The STi badge would be pretty cool, but at $49 it's a little pricey too. I'd probably just scuff up the chrome on the eTrailer cover and paint it body color or black it out.
| bfarm | 01-24-2006 12:06 PM |
Good call on the blackout. We'll see. I'd like to be able to incorporate something to hold the electrical connector behind whatever cover I put on there. The electrical connector is just clipped kind of inside the rear bumper now. Good for 0 visibility, a little awkward for access.
| Vampyr | 01-24-2006 01:20 PM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick]
I just can't understand the mentality here. I bought my wagon so I could have fun on the track AND haul isht home from Lowes AND get my bikes to the trailhead AND camp out of it. The thing that makes these cars great is their versatility. If I had wanted a car JUST for auto-x, I'd have gotten a Miata, S-2000, or Mini Cooper S.[/QUOTE]
umm... good for you. :confused:
I just can't understand the mentality here. I bought my wagon so I could have fun on the track AND haul isht home from Lowes AND get my bikes to the trailhead AND camp out of it. The thing that makes these cars great is their versatility. If I had wanted a car JUST for auto-x, I'd have gotten a Miata, S-2000, or Mini Cooper S.[/QUOTE]
umm... good for you. :confused:
| VpointVick | 01-24-2006 01:41 PM |
[QUOTE=Vampyr]a trailer hitch on an STi... (only in America :rolleyes: )[/QUOTE]
Why the hell not, is my point.
Why the hell not, is my point.
| Ryokosman | 01-24-2006 03:03 PM |
Its been my experience while hanging around speedshops that the guys that say "*** YOUR CAR IS THE SUXORS WITH A HITCH" are the same one's who later ask "So if I wanna take my car to a track day what should I do?"
The others go "Kick-ass! What kinda tires you run on your track wheels? I use (insert brand here)"
The others go "Kick-ass! What kinda tires you run on your track wheels? I use (insert brand here)"
| Vampyr | 01-24-2006 03:53 PM |
[QUOTE=VpointVick]Why the hell not, is my point.[/QUOTE]
exactly! Not because you need to... but because you want to!
Go get 'em tiger! :D
exactly! Not because you need to... but because you want to!
Go get 'em tiger! :D
| SplatZ400 | 02-20-2006 12:44 PM |
well i just installed a class I from hitchfinder.com lastnight only took about 20min to install the hitch. i plan on doing the wiring sometime this week. when it warms up. anyone with tips for the 05 wiring would be greatly appreciated.
| bfarm | 02-20-2006 04:26 PM |
[QUOTE=SplatZ400]well i just installed a class I from hitchfinder.com lastnight only took about 20min to install the hitch. i plan on doing the wiring sometime this week. when it warms up. anyone with tips for the 05 wiring would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how closely 05 STi wiring is to 05 WRX wiring, but you can see my post after I wired my 05 STi earlier in this thread, here: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12402867&postcount=34[/url]
-B
I'm not sure how closely 05 STi wiring is to 05 WRX wiring, but you can see my post after I wired my 05 STi earlier in this thread, here: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12402867&postcount=34[/url]
-B
| bcblues | 04-14-2006 02:40 PM |
[QUOTE=Imprezive_04]A trailer hitch on an STi is a disgrace to the car gods. [/QUOTE]
I just checked with the car gods, and they said it was OK to put a trailer hitch on my STi. :cool:
I just checked with the car gods, and they said it was OK to put a trailer hitch on my STi. :cool:
| ride5000 | 04-28-2006 04:29 PM |
[QUOTE=Vampyr]Actually... manual transmissions tend to be worse for towing than an automatic. Semitrucks need 12+ gear manual trannys to be able to safely shift gears when towing. [/quote]
so the fact that redline is 4k rpms doesn't have anything to do with it?
[quote]A ski rack or bike rack? that's because those units are mounted directly to the vehicle and would only cause an aerodynamic drag on the vehicle. They do not have their own seperate mass.[/quote]
cool. so i can put stuff on my massless ski and bike rack and it gets transported into hyperspace.
[quote]Why don't people complain about other Subaru models when they are towing? Well... first of all, the STi is one of the more expensive cars in the Subaru lineup. Why pay 30,000+ for the top of the line model when you can spend 20,000+ for a car that can tow the same?[/quote]
ahh.. so it's too expensive to use for anything besides moving people.
[quote]Second... the STi model has the research of racing behind it, meaning Subaru specifically makes the STi to adhere to WRC rules. Meaning, the suspension setup, engine tune, etc... are built by Subaru based on the car 'as is'. [/quote]
you are smoking crack if you think what you buy down the street at the dealer has ANYTHING to do with a WRC platform.
[quote]You add a few hundred pounds to the rear of the car and you are driving the car outside of its intended setup.[/quote]
yes, because doubling the crank horsepower with a bunch of mods--as happens every day, all day around here--isn't?
[quote]I personally don't have a problem with STi that tow stuff.[/quote]
good. then you won't have problems when i tell you that i've carried in/on my wagon (not all at once):
8 sheets of 1/2" drywall
8 sheets of 3/8" exterior grade plywood
33 gallon 140psi 5hp air compressor
10 10' 2x12 planks
15' wood ladder
80 gallon water heater
450 4' cedar pickets
16 12' pressure treated 2x4s
2 used scoobie transmissions
10" delta 2 table saw (disassembled)
500 lbs of concrete
200 lbs of floor leveler
150 sqft of floor tile
50 lbs of grout
150 lbs of tile mortar
40' aluminum extension ladder
2 kegs
4 mounted tires/wheels
my car rolled off the assembly line in japan ready to be used, and that's what i intend to do.
so the fact that redline is 4k rpms doesn't have anything to do with it?
[quote]A ski rack or bike rack? that's because those units are mounted directly to the vehicle and would only cause an aerodynamic drag on the vehicle. They do not have their own seperate mass.[/quote]
cool. so i can put stuff on my massless ski and bike rack and it gets transported into hyperspace.
[quote]Why don't people complain about other Subaru models when they are towing? Well... first of all, the STi is one of the more expensive cars in the Subaru lineup. Why pay 30,000+ for the top of the line model when you can spend 20,000+ for a car that can tow the same?[/quote]
ahh.. so it's too expensive to use for anything besides moving people.
[quote]Second... the STi model has the research of racing behind it, meaning Subaru specifically makes the STi to adhere to WRC rules. Meaning, the suspension setup, engine tune, etc... are built by Subaru based on the car 'as is'. [/quote]
you are smoking crack if you think what you buy down the street at the dealer has ANYTHING to do with a WRC platform.
[quote]You add a few hundred pounds to the rear of the car and you are driving the car outside of its intended setup.[/quote]
yes, because doubling the crank horsepower with a bunch of mods--as happens every day, all day around here--isn't?
[quote]I personally don't have a problem with STi that tow stuff.[/quote]
good. then you won't have problems when i tell you that i've carried in/on my wagon (not all at once):
8 sheets of 1/2" drywall
8 sheets of 3/8" exterior grade plywood
33 gallon 140psi 5hp air compressor
10 10' 2x12 planks
15' wood ladder
80 gallon water heater
450 4' cedar pickets
16 12' pressure treated 2x4s
2 used scoobie transmissions
10" delta 2 table saw (disassembled)
500 lbs of concrete
200 lbs of floor leveler
150 sqft of floor tile
50 lbs of grout
150 lbs of tile mortar
40' aluminum extension ladder
2 kegs
4 mounted tires/wheels
my car rolled off the assembly line in japan ready to be used, and that's what i intend to do.
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