| Jag32 | 06-17-2006 01:18 AM |
Which of these 3 skid plates is the best?
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I'm looking for a skid plate and have found three and was wondering which is the best? I do plan to do some spirited driving on dirt roads, so i'm not just looking for some bling, I want the skid plate which will be the most functional.
Suby Solutions: [url]http://ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?CategoryID=1672&NodeID=5262&RootID=1414[/url]
Beatrush: [url]http://www.kamispeed.com/product_info.php?products_id=46&SesId=26d3d9272049c34f648e35f9409dd7a6[/url]
Rally Armor: [url]http://rallyarmor.com/rally_skidplates/wrx_sti_skidplates.html[/url]
[list][*]The RallyArmor skid plate is the thickest of the three at 3/16" whereas the Beatrush and Suby Solutions skid plates are both 1/8".[*]Both the Beatrush and SS skid plates have certain areas cut out so you can easily access all the necessary service points without having to remove the skid plate like you do on the RallyArmor one. However, RallyArmor claims that their skid plates are solid without any service access points to ensure the maximum amount of rigidity and strength. [*]The Beatrush skid plate has specially angled vents in it which they claim draws heat out of the engine bay and helps cool the engine.[/list]
Pictures of all 3:
BEATRUSH:
[img]http://www.kamispeed.com/images/S560160b.jpg[/img]
SUBY SOLUTIONS (the bottom one, ignore the top one):
[img]http://ipdusa.com/Images/categories/Subaru/skidplatessubaru.jpg[/img]
RALLY ARMOR:
[img]http://rallyarmor.com/images/products/skidplates/wrx_sti_front.jpg[/img]
So I don't know which one to choose and was hoping you guys could help me with my decision.
Suby Solutions: [url]http://ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?CategoryID=1672&NodeID=5262&RootID=1414[/url]
Beatrush: [url]http://www.kamispeed.com/product_info.php?products_id=46&SesId=26d3d9272049c34f648e35f9409dd7a6[/url]
Rally Armor: [url]http://rallyarmor.com/rally_skidplates/wrx_sti_skidplates.html[/url]
[list][*]The RallyArmor skid plate is the thickest of the three at 3/16" whereas the Beatrush and Suby Solutions skid plates are both 1/8".[*]Both the Beatrush and SS skid plates have certain areas cut out so you can easily access all the necessary service points without having to remove the skid plate like you do on the RallyArmor one. However, RallyArmor claims that their skid plates are solid without any service access points to ensure the maximum amount of rigidity and strength. [*]The Beatrush skid plate has specially angled vents in it which they claim draws heat out of the engine bay and helps cool the engine.[/list]
Pictures of all 3:
BEATRUSH:
[img]http://www.kamispeed.com/images/S560160b.jpg[/img]
SUBY SOLUTIONS (the bottom one, ignore the top one):
[img]http://ipdusa.com/Images/categories/Subaru/skidplatessubaru.jpg[/img]
RALLY ARMOR:
[img]http://rallyarmor.com/images/products/skidplates/wrx_sti_front.jpg[/img]
So I don't know which one to choose and was hoping you guys could help me with my decision.
| v8eaterWRX | 06-17-2006 01:20 AM |
*subscribes*
| Black-Falcon | 06-17-2006 01:22 AM |
From the looks of it the Rally Armor is much more beffie than any of the other ones.
| Jag32 | 06-17-2006 01:31 AM |
[QUOTE=Black-Falcon]From the looks of it the Rally Armor is much more beffie than any of the other ones.[/QUOTE]
What about the lack of vents though?
What about the lack of vents though?
| Black-Falcon | 06-17-2006 02:06 AM |
Vents are just places to introduce weakness into the structure. IMO
| Black Sti 05 | 06-17-2006 02:13 AM |
[QUOTE=Jag32]I'm looking for a skid plate and have found three and was wondering which is the best? I do plan to do some spirited driving on dirt roads, so i'm not just looking for some bling, I want the skid plate which will be the most functional.
So I don't know which one to choose and was hoping you guys could help me with my decision.[/QUOTE]
i have the rally armor, i got to say i was bit disapointed.. it was rubbin my exhaust manifold and the oil pan.. thankfully i noticed in time before it rubbed thru the metal.. quick fix was a few spacers on the front bolts, and a hammer to beat the crap out of the skid plate to bend it so it dont rub.. :mad:
So I don't know which one to choose and was hoping you guys could help me with my decision.[/QUOTE]
i have the rally armor, i got to say i was bit disapointed.. it was rubbin my exhaust manifold and the oil pan.. thankfully i noticed in time before it rubbed thru the metal.. quick fix was a few spacers on the front bolts, and a hammer to beat the crap out of the skid plate to bend it so it dont rub.. :mad:
| pleue | 06-17-2006 04:31 AM |
i have a primitive, no complaints. saved my oil pan a few times.
| liupj | 06-17-2006 04:39 AM |
Cusco? :)
| STi-JDM | 06-17-2006 05:02 AM |
my vote goes for Beatrush... :D You might want to consider Carbing too :) looks pretty similar to Beatrush...
| turbo tecnica | 06-17-2006 10:25 AM |
[QUOTE=STi-JDM]my vote goes for Beatrush... :D You might want to consider Carbing too :) looks pretty similar to Beatrush...[/QUOTE]
+1 on Carbing, it looks like the Beatrush one with the vents
[url]http://www.rightcoastimports.com/subaru/wrx/wrx_engine/wrx_engine09.htm[/url]
If I had to choose from those 3 you listed though, I'd probably pick Beatrush.
+1 on Carbing, it looks like the Beatrush one with the vents
[url]http://www.rightcoastimports.com/subaru/wrx/wrx_engine/wrx_engine09.htm[/url]
If I had to choose from those 3 you listed though, I'd probably pick Beatrush.
| Blue Rabbit 02 | 06-17-2006 01:22 PM |
anyone fabbed their own with sheetmetal? i would imagine it wouldnt be too hard, just a simple measure, cut, drill, bolt.
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| zachary.berrier | 06-17-2006 01:59 PM |
i vote the primitive is proven top quality on paul eklunds rally cars
| nerdydorkus | 06-17-2006 02:20 PM |
beatrush looks like it covers a wider area, and it has vents. +1 from me
| jsbush | 06-17-2006 02:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Blue Rabbit 02]anyone fabbed their own with sheetmetal? i would imagine it wouldnt be too hard, just a simple measure, cut, drill, bolt.
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I'm thinking of doing that. Would be a lot cheaper, especially considering i'm in canada.
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I'm thinking of doing that. Would be a lot cheaper, especially considering i'm in canada.
| rey_vibora | 06-18-2006 11:11 PM |
+1 for Beatrush; I have this on my subi and love it. I specially like the open window to fit a jack in and lift the car up when needed fast.
| Yesitsdrew5310 | 06-19-2006 04:09 AM |
[QUOTE=pleue]i have a primitive, no complaints. saved my oil pan a few times.[/QUOTE]
+1 comes in a 3/16th and a 1/8th.
+1 comes in a 3/16th and a 1/8th.
| turbo tecnica | 06-19-2006 08:41 AM |
[QUOTE=rey_vibora]+1 for Beatrush; I have this on my subi and love it. I specially like the open window to fit a jack in and lift the car up when needed fast.[/QUOTE]
Nice to hear. Did you have any fitment problems with your STi? I'm considering getting one but I'm not sure if they were WRX-only or what.
Nice to hear. Did you have any fitment problems with your STi? I'm considering getting one but I'm not sure if they were WRX-only or what.
| Subie Gal | 06-19-2006 09:03 AM |
[QUOTE=zachary.berrier]i vote the primitive is proven top quality on paul eklunds rally cars[/QUOTE]
+1 for [url]www.get-primitive.com[/url]
rally proven.
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
+1 for [url]www.get-primitive.com[/url]
rally proven.
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
| rey_vibora | 06-19-2006 10:34 AM |
[QUOTE=turbo tecnica]Nice to hear. Did you have any fitment problems with your STi? I'm considering getting one but I'm not sure if they were WRX-only or what.[/QUOTE]
No fitment issues at all; easy to install and fits like a glove. They work on all imprezas, wrx & sti.
No fitment issues at all; easy to install and fits like a glove. They work on all imprezas, wrx & sti.
| o2sys | 06-19-2006 01:18 PM |
beatrush looks hot and very functional
| RB5 Clone | 06-19-2006 04:19 PM |
Primitive's bombproof Full Body Armor 3/16" plate allows you to smack toaster-size rocks at 70mph and occasionally get away with it.
DG
DG
| o2sys | 06-19-2006 04:24 PM |
well comparing the prices why not just go with true JDM?
| Jag32 | 06-19-2006 04:27 PM |
[QUOTE=o2sys]well comparing the prices why not just go with true JDM?[/QUOTE]
Got a link?
Got a link?
| SAW | 06-19-2006 04:42 PM |
my Primitive plate is awesome +1
| 4wdrift | 06-19-2006 08:07 PM |
If you do not rally, I would also get the beatrush. Otherwise, primitive works well.
| WickedSTI | 06-19-2006 10:17 PM |
[QUOTE=pleue]i have a primitive, no complaints. saved my oil pan a few times.[/QUOTE]
I have primitive front and rear diff and i would buy again good place to deal with ++++ for those guys.Brad
I have primitive front and rear diff and i would buy again good place to deal with ++++ for those guys.Brad
| rey_vibora | 06-19-2006 10:39 PM |
[QUOTE=Jag32]Got a link?[/QUOTE]
[url]www.laile.co.jp[/url], he was referring to the Beatrush underpanel.
[url]www.laile.co.jp[/url], he was referring to the Beatrush underpanel.
| hyp36rmax | 06-19-2006 11:04 PM |
i'm checkingout the carbing panel, how are oil changes with these on complicated or time consuming to take off?
| SlideWRX | 06-20-2006 09:59 AM |
I have the rally armor, and it was rubbing on my oil pan. I bent it to clear and added a couple washers, otherwise fairly happy. Short of real rally it's great. I've heard stories of better economy with the plate on, and it definitely didn't hurt mine. Oil changes really aren't that hard I think.
Tom
Tom
| Yotsuya | 06-20-2006 10:10 AM |
[QUOTE=o2sys]well comparing the prices why not just go with true JDM?[/QUOTE]:alien:
With any of these plates, getting at the oil's no different than the undertray Subaru's fitting on WRXs these days; a few bolts and you're there.
I'd vote Primitive; been thinking of one myself.
With any of these plates, getting at the oil's no different than the undertray Subaru's fitting on WRXs these days; a few bolts and you're there.
I'd vote Primitive; been thinking of one myself.
| Howl | 06-20-2006 10:11 AM |
[QUOTE=Blue Rabbit 02]anyone fabbed their own with sheetmetal? i would imagine it wouldnt be too hard, just a simple measure, cut, drill, bolt.
??[/QUOTE]
I just had one made two weeks ago (and I've already used it). It's 3/16th 5052 aluminum. It cost about $200CDN after all was said and done. The hardest part was finding someplace to bend it (just one bend across the front). The cutting and drilling were relatively easy.
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I just had one made two weeks ago (and I've already used it). It's 3/16th 5052 aluminum. It cost about $200CDN after all was said and done. The hardest part was finding someplace to bend it (just one bend across the front). The cutting and drilling were relatively easy.
| Snitt | 06-20-2006 10:25 AM |
Has anybody used any of these with a Fumoto valve? Mine sticks down a little farther than the stock pan bolt, and I'm wondering if it would hit on these.
| vipernj | 06-20-2006 10:28 AM |
i know that the primitive is around 200 bucks, how about all the other ones?
| rey_vibora | 06-20-2006 11:26 AM |
$200 for Beatrush and if you're in Orlando, Fl. you can pick this up to save on shipping.
| Vostok 7 | 06-20-2006 11:27 AM |
OK, let's approach it this way. (I have done alot of TSD rallys and skidplates, particularly the Primitive Racing pieces, have saved my skin more than once)
Beatrush and Cusco and any plates like that are designed for aerodynamic cleaning of the undercarriage. They will provide a little protection from small pieces of gravel but that's about it. Not only that but the Cusco undertray only works with the Cusco front lip which would make your car too low to do what you want to do.
Having holes in your skidplate basically defeats the purpose. Think about it, you're trying to protect things like your oil pan, oil filter, etc. Why make big holes for those spots that would allow something to bounce right up into them? Cooling vents are a good idea, but basically worthless. Air can, and will still get out down the firewall past the transmission.
So, in the end, I would settle for Primitive Racing or RallyArmor or any of those real purpose built skid plates.
Vostok 7
Beatrush and Cusco and any plates like that are designed for aerodynamic cleaning of the undercarriage. They will provide a little protection from small pieces of gravel but that's about it. Not only that but the Cusco undertray only works with the Cusco front lip which would make your car too low to do what you want to do.
Having holes in your skidplate basically defeats the purpose. Think about it, you're trying to protect things like your oil pan, oil filter, etc. Why make big holes for those spots that would allow something to bounce right up into them? Cooling vents are a good idea, but basically worthless. Air can, and will still get out down the firewall past the transmission.
So, in the end, I would settle for Primitive Racing or RallyArmor or any of those real purpose built skid plates.
Vostok 7
| AutoScott | 06-20-2006 12:12 PM |
which plate provides the best air flow, bestrush or cusco?
cusco's plate needs the front lip to work, but beatrush does not, can the simplier design work just as well as the larger and costlier cusco? I am interseted in performance more than protection. is there more road noise with a vented plate.
cusco's plate needs the front lip to work, but beatrush does not, can the simplier design work just as well as the larger and costlier cusco? I am interseted in performance more than protection. is there more road noise with a vented plate.
| Drink | 06-20-2006 12:22 PM |
+1 for no skid plate
| rey_vibora | 06-20-2006 12:31 PM |
[QUOTE=AutoScott]which plate provides the best air flow, bestrush or cusco?
cusco's plate needs the front lip to work, but beatrush does not, can the simplier design work just as well as the larger and costlier cusco? I am interseted in performance more than protection. is there more road noise with a vented plate.[/QUOTE]
No road noise at all with the Beatrush underpanel; instead, I feel less wind noise. The car feels more stable at 70+mph. I'm not sure if its just me, but I love it. ;)
cusco's plate needs the front lip to work, but beatrush does not, can the simplier design work just as well as the larger and costlier cusco? I am interseted in performance more than protection. is there more road noise with a vented plate.[/QUOTE]
No road noise at all with the Beatrush underpanel; instead, I feel less wind noise. The car feels more stable at 70+mph. I'm not sure if its just me, but I love it. ;)
| sirfrankwilliams | 06-20-2006 12:32 PM |
+5 for Primitive
| Vostok 7 | 06-20-2006 01:34 PM |
[QUOTE=rey_vibora]No road noise at all with the Beatrush underpanel; instead, I feel less wind noise. The car feels more stable at 70+mph. I'm not sure if its just me, but I love it. ;)[/QUOTE]
This plus more for the Cusco. Car feels wonderful at 120-140. I wouldn't want to go those speeds without it. I just recently installed the '06 rear diffuser and am planning on adding some more underside airflow mods, such as the '06 side panels and maybe some custom stuff. The Cusco is a race proven piece, it's basically a copy of what they use on their JGTC race car. And it definitely does work, even at freeway speeds. You could also even notice an increase in gas mileage thanks to less underside turbulence.
Vostok 7
This plus more for the Cusco. Car feels wonderful at 120-140. I wouldn't want to go those speeds without it. I just recently installed the '06 rear diffuser and am planning on adding some more underside airflow mods, such as the '06 side panels and maybe some custom stuff. The Cusco is a race proven piece, it's basically a copy of what they use on their JGTC race car. And it definitely does work, even at freeway speeds. You could also even notice an increase in gas mileage thanks to less underside turbulence.
Vostok 7
| Jag32 | 06-20-2006 03:04 PM |
[QUOTE=rey_vibora]$200 for Beatrush and if you're in Orlando, Fl. you can pick this up to save on shipping.[/QUOTE]
Where in Orlando? At a store?
Where in Orlando? At a store?
| rey_vibora | 06-20-2006 03:17 PM |
Kami Speed
7901 Kingspointe Pkwy St. 23
Orlando, Fl. 32819
Its on sandlake rd. between internation drive and johnyoung parkway
7901 Kingspointe Pkwy St. 23
Orlando, Fl. 32819
Its on sandlake rd. between internation drive and johnyoung parkway
| outback2.5HO | 06-20-2006 03:25 PM |
Go Primitive if you are going for pre-fabbed.. :)
| silent_rob_95 | 06-20-2006 05:45 PM |
+1 for beatrush from me :) covers more then a rally armor and it fit like a glove with some spacers on a gd 2.5rs. I agree with rey_vibora, car feels much more stable at higher speeds.
i went through the same thing a while back. To me the rally armor doesn't protect that much compared to the others. The Suby solution one has holes in it which well exposes area. The carbing wasn't really out when I purchases the beatrush.
i went through the same thing a while back. To me the rally armor doesn't protect that much compared to the others. The Suby solution one has holes in it which well exposes area. The carbing wasn't really out when I purchases the beatrush.
| jsbush | 06-20-2006 08:22 PM |
[QUOTE=Howl]I just had one made two weeks ago (and I've already used it). It's 3/16th 5052 aluminum. It cost about $200CDN after all was said and done. The hardest part was finding someplace to bend it (just one bend across the front). The cutting and drilling were relatively easy.[/QUOTE]
Do you have the dimensions, and the messurements where the bend is made?
Do you have the dimensions, and the messurements where the bend is made?
| rainmanjam | 06-28-2006 02:09 PM |
Check out this guy on Ebay. A lot cheeper and covers a lot more of the car. I will get it installed this week and take pics.
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8074276709[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8074276709[/url]
| rey_vibora | 06-28-2006 02:17 PM |
Hey guys; worldoneperformance is having a G.B. on the Beatrush underpanel for $160. :
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033808&highlight=beatrush[/url]
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1033808&highlight=beatrush[/url]
| primitive | 06-29-2006 11:05 AM |
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:46 AM
To: [email][email�protected][/email]
Subject: Fuel consumption w/skidplates
It is confirmed with great confidence: the addition of the Primitive
skidplates has lowered noticeably the fuel consumption of my WRX over
my 52-mile one-way commute. I've had the WRX for a year now and a
great part of its miles since then are from my work commute. Because
of different reasons, the fuel consumption has stayed within quite
tight limits - typically in the low 21mpg range (yikes!) Over a month
since I installed the skidplates I have seen a noticeable
improvement. I kept pushing 23mpg but I attributed that to
some "mellowing" after the new wave of increased gas prices (double-
yikes!) so I did a two-week test where I used repeatable test
parameters (same gas station, car position at the pump, same course -
only commute, same temperatures, same good-old traffic, etc.) but
this time I really pushed it - went as fast as I ever have all the
time. The fuel consumption was 23mpg on the first tank (did use some
cruise control) and 22.4mpg (picked up all races I could :-) My most-
frequently seen numbers last year were 21.1-21.3mpg. I can safely
claim that I've seen an extra mile-per-gallon with the skidplates
now. With the current gas prices, the "body-armor" set will pay off
in less than 4 years! My wife completely bought that (she's quite
gullible :-)
Your mileage may vary (literally)
[url]www.get-primitive.com[/url]
To: [email][email�protected][/email]
Subject: Fuel consumption w/skidplates
It is confirmed with great confidence: the addition of the Primitive
skidplates has lowered noticeably the fuel consumption of my WRX over
my 52-mile one-way commute. I've had the WRX for a year now and a
great part of its miles since then are from my work commute. Because
of different reasons, the fuel consumption has stayed within quite
tight limits - typically in the low 21mpg range (yikes!) Over a month
since I installed the skidplates I have seen a noticeable
improvement. I kept pushing 23mpg but I attributed that to
some "mellowing" after the new wave of increased gas prices (double-
yikes!) so I did a two-week test where I used repeatable test
parameters (same gas station, car position at the pump, same course -
only commute, same temperatures, same good-old traffic, etc.) but
this time I really pushed it - went as fast as I ever have all the
time. The fuel consumption was 23mpg on the first tank (did use some
cruise control) and 22.4mpg (picked up all races I could :-) My most-
frequently seen numbers last year were 21.1-21.3mpg. I can safely
claim that I've seen an extra mile-per-gallon with the skidplates
now. With the current gas prices, the "body-armor" set will pay off
in less than 4 years! My wife completely bought that (she's quite
gullible :-)
Your mileage may vary (literally)
[url]www.get-primitive.com[/url]
| hanzo918 | 06-29-2006 03:06 PM |
I got 2mpg improvement on mai RallyArmor skidplate as well.
But the fitment sucks (mine was subframeless)
But the fitment sucks (mine was subframeless)
| Richmond WRX | 06-30-2006 03:10 AM |
[QUOTE=Snitt]Has anybody used any of these with a Fumoto valve? Mine sticks down a little farther than the stock pan bolt, and I'm wondering if it would hit on these.[/QUOTE]
Rally armor and the fumoto valve with the nipple will not work together. It will work though if you take the nipple off the valve. I don't know about the other plates though.
Rally armor and the fumoto valve with the nipple will not work together. It will work though if you take the nipple off the valve. I don't know about the other plates though.
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