| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 09:57 AM |
Is RallyX for me?
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so i participated in my very first organized motorsports event yesterday.. ice racing at Newfound Lake. it was AWESOME and i'm hooked. i'd like to get into something with a little more grip but still get the car sideways and not risk running it into a tree or telephone pole. RallyX seems like the logical answer but so far the only two people i've discussed this with have warned me that if i like my car, i shouldn't do it.
car is a 2002 WRX wagon. i don't care about the paint. i learned not to care about the paint on Subarus a loooooong time ago. but i'd like it to stay in fair mechanical condition. obviously with ANY motorsport you run the risk of [i]completely[/i] ruining your car, but what's the real deal with rallycross?
car is a 2002 WRX wagon. i don't care about the paint. i learned not to care about the paint on Subarus a loooooong time ago. but i'd like it to stay in fair mechanical condition. obviously with ANY motorsport you run the risk of [i]completely[/i] ruining your car, but what's the real deal with rallycross?
| Sideshowbob | 03-06-2006 10:52 AM |
My general thought has been although the car would have to be prepped right, it wouldnt take too much of a beating beyond what AutoX would cause. I have been dying to get to that elvel of prep, but it's costly.
WRX prep list-
-Good Front Skid Plate
-Nice Beefy Mudflaps
-Rear Diff Guard
-Stock or Higher Suspension
I am sure others can add to my list.
WRX prep list-
-Good Front Skid Plate
-Nice Beefy Mudflaps
-Rear Diff Guard
-Stock or Higher Suspension
I am sure others can add to my list.
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 10:56 AM |
hm that sounds about right. maybe i'll hold off on rally-x until i can get some armor for the car..
did you get my message? you should've come ice racing, mister "419" :lol: :lol: :lol:
did you get my message? you should've come ice racing, mister "419" :lol: :lol: :lol:
| Chromer | 03-06-2006 11:00 AM |
My Forester has been beat to hell and back scouting roads for TSD, has been rallyxed, was hit in the front end and needed 1" of frame-pull, will be rallyxed much more in the future, and at 150,000 miles, is finally ready for new struts and steering rack bushings. I HAVE gone through a lot of rear wheel bearings, but that's life.
It ain't so bad for it. Seriously, the worst part is getting the mud and grass out of the strut towers...
G'wan, you know you want to.
It ain't so bad for it. Seriously, the worst part is getting the mud and grass out of the strut towers...
G'wan, you know you want to.
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 11:05 AM |
i REALLY REALLY want to.. i'm SO tempted. i don't care about dirt, mud, rocks, ice.. what i DO care about is getting caught in a rut in a 30-mph turn and having my tie rods ripped apart or something similar.. i guess no amount of undercarriage armor is gonna prevent that though..
| randy zimmer | 03-06-2006 12:01 PM |
Depends on your group and level of course prep.
I've run many with everyday subes with no big deal.
rz
I've run many with everyday subes with no big deal.
rz
| greg donovan | 03-06-2006 12:02 PM |
[QUOTE=alacrity024]i REALLY REALLY want to.. i'm SO tempted. i don't care about dirt, mud, rocks, ice.. what i DO care about is getting caught in a rut in a 30-mph turn and having my tie rods ripped apart or something similar.. i guess no amount of undercarriage armor is gonna prevent that though..[/QUOTE]
rallyx courses are designed so that anything more than a gentle curve will have much lowere corner speeds than that.
when i was rallyxing 2-3 times a year i didnt notice any trouble w/my car.
but when i did 10 events a season and did 20 to 30 laps a weekend on my track at my parents farm a couple times a year then i noticed some wear. especially on the ball joints, wheel bearings, and CV joints.
it was a 1990 front wheel drive 5mt subaru legacy sedan. that was bone stock aside from some rally tires and KYB GR2 struts.
it is a lot of fun. we have people using brand new cars and 25-30 year old beaters. we all have fun. just dont drive too hard and you can still have fun w/out stressing out too much.
rallyx courses are designed so that anything more than a gentle curve will have much lowere corner speeds than that.
when i was rallyxing 2-3 times a year i didnt notice any trouble w/my car.
but when i did 10 events a season and did 20 to 30 laps a weekend on my track at my parents farm a couple times a year then i noticed some wear. especially on the ball joints, wheel bearings, and CV joints.
it was a 1990 front wheel drive 5mt subaru legacy sedan. that was bone stock aside from some rally tires and KYB GR2 struts.
it is a lot of fun. we have people using brand new cars and 25-30 year old beaters. we all have fun. just dont drive too hard and you can still have fun w/out stressing out too much.
| greg donovan | 03-06-2006 12:03 PM |
[QUOTE=randy zimmer]Depends on your group and level of course prep.
I've run many with everyday subes with no big deal.
rz[/QUOTE]
How is the Rally Build Manual for the Imprezas coming Randy?
I've run many with everyday subes with no big deal.
rz[/QUOTE]
How is the Rally Build Manual for the Imprezas coming Randy?
| randy zimmer | 03-06-2006 12:35 PM |
Version 1.0.0 is ready to go!
You should have a PM on it.
rz
You should have a PM on it.
rz
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 12:50 PM |
i'd love to read that. i just found a '95 Impreza L AWD wagon with a stickshift and 100k miles for like $3k.. i'm considering purchasing a dedicated rallyx/autox toy.. don't really know where i would come up with the funding, but it'd be nice to not have to worry about disabling my daily driver..
any other suggestions for a good weekend warrior car? i thought an impreza would be a good choice because of AWD, parts availability, and possibility to swap in a WRX motor..
any other suggestions for a good weekend warrior car? i thought an impreza would be a good choice because of AWD, parts availability, and possibility to swap in a WRX motor..
| xcdhridr | 03-06-2006 12:52 PM |
rally-x is generally fairly easy on your car. It's a level of racing meant to draw people in without much (if any) prep work needed for their cars. I raced my stock wrx all last season with NO problems. Only one of the courses was rough enough to make me think or cringe at a bump. But the car handles everything with nothing breaking or bending. In fact, the only problem I've had with parts ever on my car has been from auto-x and time trials where I broke an endlink (1 time each). Most are courses are like auto-x but in a pretty smooth dirt parking lot or area. As for rocks, I used to tape the sides of my car with painters tape. Now I just have some cheapo autozone mudflaps that seem to work fine.
I did 23 races in total last year (auto-x, time trials, and rally-x's) all in my WRX. Besides tires, the car stayed whole with no problems besides endlinks. And the car is my daily driver (only car).
I did 23 races in total last year (auto-x, time trials, and rally-x's) all in my WRX. Besides tires, the car stayed whole with no problems besides endlinks. And the car is my daily driver (only car).
| RallyCat66 | 03-06-2006 12:59 PM |
We try to lay out the course to minimize any chance of you hurting your car. That said, judgement is the ultimate deciding factor.
I run dedicated cars (Civic, Arrow, GTI) because I know that I'm way too competitive to lay back and will beat the car within an inch of it's life if I have a shot at winning.
If you realize that your car doesn't have a skid plate and drive accordingly, you'll have no problems. Yes, you will get rock chips, but if you drive cautiously and slow down in the rough spots, you'll have no issues.
Many of the cars that compete in NER events do not have skid plates and it's actually pretty rare for something serious to happen (bents A arms or broken ball joints) and when it does, it's usually the guys really going for it that have the issues.
Tim
I run dedicated cars (Civic, Arrow, GTI) because I know that I'm way too competitive to lay back and will beat the car within an inch of it's life if I have a shot at winning.
If you realize that your car doesn't have a skid plate and drive accordingly, you'll have no problems. Yes, you will get rock chips, but if you drive cautiously and slow down in the rough spots, you'll have no issues.
Many of the cars that compete in NER events do not have skid plates and it's actually pretty rare for something serious to happen (bents A arms or broken ball joints) and when it does, it's usually the guys really going for it that have the issues.
Tim
| Fred | 03-06-2006 01:04 PM |
The people who warn you about how rough rallyx is on your car usually have never even been to one. :rolleyes:
I've rallyxed my 2001 2.5RS, my 2005 WRX, my 2005 FXT, my 2004 STi, and my 2000 2.5RS and never broken anything. I own half of one of our sites (my mom owns the other half), and I go out and play in it all the time. So I've probably done the equivalent of 100 rallyxes out there, not counting the rallyxes that I've actually competed in. Nobody has ever been faster than me and my 2000 2.5RS at any rallyx I've competed in with it, and I have never done anything worse than stuffing dirt in the bead of a tire - and that was because I was on rally tires, and had made the ASSumption that I could drive any way I wanted and not have to worry about the tires. :lol:
If you keep your car in good condition and don't have modifications that are contrary to what a rallyx car should have (like lowering springs), you shouldn't have any problems. If, however, you're skeered you're going to "hurt your car" and you get a POS car to rallyx in order to "save" your daily driver, you WILL break something. POS cars are called "POS cars" for a reason, you know? But when people see the POS cars breaking on course, they make the ASSumption that their well-maintained car is going to break as well.
Just remember that you always have the option of SLOWING DOWN if you feel that the ruts are too rough for your car. Just because there's a timer running doesn't mean you have to blast through foot-deep ruts. I'm always thinking about what could be coming up (the course you walk in the morning isn't the same course you'll see on your 3rd run :eek: ) and planning alternate routes through the corner in case I see something I don't want to drive through. And I always try to take the smoothest line through the corner - the rougher (or softer) it gets, the less power you're going to be applying and the slower you're going to exit the corner.
If you're still scared, just go watch a rallyx in your area and see what kind of courses they run and what kind of hazards develop. Different clubs have different ideas of "safe" :lol: so personal experience is the best judge.
I've rallyxed my 2001 2.5RS, my 2005 WRX, my 2005 FXT, my 2004 STi, and my 2000 2.5RS and never broken anything. I own half of one of our sites (my mom owns the other half), and I go out and play in it all the time. So I've probably done the equivalent of 100 rallyxes out there, not counting the rallyxes that I've actually competed in. Nobody has ever been faster than me and my 2000 2.5RS at any rallyx I've competed in with it, and I have never done anything worse than stuffing dirt in the bead of a tire - and that was because I was on rally tires, and had made the ASSumption that I could drive any way I wanted and not have to worry about the tires. :lol:
If you keep your car in good condition and don't have modifications that are contrary to what a rallyx car should have (like lowering springs), you shouldn't have any problems. If, however, you're skeered you're going to "hurt your car" and you get a POS car to rallyx in order to "save" your daily driver, you WILL break something. POS cars are called "POS cars" for a reason, you know? But when people see the POS cars breaking on course, they make the ASSumption that their well-maintained car is going to break as well.
Just remember that you always have the option of SLOWING DOWN if you feel that the ruts are too rough for your car. Just because there's a timer running doesn't mean you have to blast through foot-deep ruts. I'm always thinking about what could be coming up (the course you walk in the morning isn't the same course you'll see on your 3rd run :eek: ) and planning alternate routes through the corner in case I see something I don't want to drive through. And I always try to take the smoothest line through the corner - the rougher (or softer) it gets, the less power you're going to be applying and the slower you're going to exit the corner.
If you're still scared, just go watch a rallyx in your area and see what kind of courses they run and what kind of hazards develop. Different clubs have different ideas of "safe" :lol: so personal experience is the best judge.
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 01:15 PM |
i think i may do this in my own car, but i'd like a skid plate, diff protector and mud flaps first... so i might not get into rallyx until summer..
| Chromer | 03-06-2006 01:22 PM |
[QUOTE=RallyCat66]Many of the cars that compete in NER events do not have skid plates and it's actually pretty rare for something serious to happen (bents A arms or broken ball joints) and when it does, it's usually the guys really going for it that have the issues.
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Heh. I think my Escort gained a little negative camber from bottoming-out at Loon last year. Then again, I was in "don't lift" mode and the struts had 200,000 miles on them. Bad combination...
See, you're more likely to break a beater. :devil:
[QUOTE=alacrity024]i think i may do this in my own car, but i'd like a skid plate, diff protector and mud flaps first... so i might not get into rallyx until summer..[/QUOTE]
If you ask really nicely, I bet you could find someone that would let you co-drive their car. Just offer to buy their lunch or something...
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Heh. I think my Escort gained a little negative camber from bottoming-out at Loon last year. Then again, I was in "don't lift" mode and the struts had 200,000 miles on them. Bad combination...
See, you're more likely to break a beater. :devil:
[QUOTE=alacrity024]i think i may do this in my own car, but i'd like a skid plate, diff protector and mud flaps first... so i might not get into rallyx until summer..[/QUOTE]
If you ask really nicely, I bet you could find someone that would let you co-drive their car. Just offer to buy their lunch or something...
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 01:23 PM |
heh yeah but i feel like a beater will be less expensive/less disappointing to break...
| spdracr00 | 03-06-2006 01:54 PM |
ah just do it! i've rallyx'd my "lowered" 99 legacy outback wagon. and i mean "lowered" like 5 inches haha.. and never had a problem. i did buy a front skidplate though.. but other than a little rubbing and the fact my car is 75feet long i've never had any problems.
| WRXedUSA | 03-06-2006 02:41 PM |
Lots of sidewall goes a long ways.
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 03:57 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Lots of sidewall goes a long ways.[/QUOTE]
:confused: explain?
:confused: explain?
| spdracr00 | 03-06-2006 04:03 PM |
sidewall = ground clearance.. a 205/55/16(wrx) is going to be lower than a 205/70/15(outback) plus all that sidewall helps take up bumps and such..
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 04:11 PM |
ah
yeah i'd be doing this on my 16" snows.. plenty of sidewall.. stock suspension too, plenty of fender gap :lol:
yeah i'd be doing this on my 16" snows.. plenty of sidewall.. stock suspension too, plenty of fender gap :lol:
| wawazat | 03-06-2006 05:36 PM |
Do it man :cool: I didn't have the heart (balls :confused: :lol: ) to try it in the SVX so I used my Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 diesel two weeks ago :banana: Obviously I was not competitive, but I did have fun :devil:
Todd
Todd
| Matt K | 03-06-2006 05:37 PM |
hmmm, I'll help with prep and repairs if you let me co-drive your car :D I'm afraid to run mine, as it's a bit low. I'll have to go watch one before I run. Besides, that's what I have the fox for...
| cowapult | 03-06-2006 06:20 PM |
I'm with Fred. Most people who talk trash about the danger rallycross have never tried it. Mind you, it depends on the venue. But I would say that all the rallycross venues I've been to are more gentle to your car than even autocross, because you are going slower speeds, you can't launch hard so you're not torturing the tranny and clutch; you can't brake as hard so you're not getting brake fade and warped rotors; you can't turn as hard so you don't get oil starvation like some cars do in autocross, you don't flex the chassis as much, etc.... And no, there are no trees or rocks or even elevation changes. Just lots of flat, groomed dirt and knee-high weeds.
You already said you aren't worried about getting your paint buffed by weeds, you're ready to roll! Don't even wait for skidplate and mudflaps and all that nonsense - I have all of the above in my garage and I don't even bother putting them on anymore.
As for cars, take your WRX your first time and try the experience before going to the hassle of buying another car.
For referencee, I've been rallycrossing for 4 years and never broke anything. I even take the risk with the risk of driving 5-6 hours to the event in the car I am going to race. I'm not sure about rallycrosses in the "-=1/2 JEW CREW=-" region :lol: but if you're anywhere near the east coast, then I know that rallycrosses here are fine for ya.
You already said you aren't worried about getting your paint buffed by weeds, you're ready to roll! Don't even wait for skidplate and mudflaps and all that nonsense - I have all of the above in my garage and I don't even bother putting them on anymore.
As for cars, take your WRX your first time and try the experience before going to the hassle of buying another car.
For referencee, I've been rallycrossing for 4 years and never broke anything. I even take the risk with the risk of driving 5-6 hours to the event in the car I am going to race. I'm not sure about rallycrosses in the "-=1/2 JEW CREW=-" region :lol: but if you're anywhere near the east coast, then I know that rallycrosses here are fine for ya.
| spdracr00 | 03-06-2006 06:26 PM |
hey now, dont sugarcoat anything.. i once got a really nasty skuff on my front bumper that took 2 min to buff out from hitting a cone... no reason to sugar coat for him...
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 06:37 PM |
[QUOTE=cowapult]I'm not sure about rallycrosses in the "-=1/2 JEW CREW=-" region :lol: but if you're anywhere near the east coast, then I know that rallycrosses here are fine for ya.[/QUOTE]
:lol: i don't venture out of OT much :D i'm in New Hampshire and there's a rallycross scheduled for March 19 about two hours north of me :D
:lol: i don't venture out of OT much :D i'm in New Hampshire and there's a rallycross scheduled for March 19 about two hours north of me :D
| LGT-FST | 03-06-2006 07:06 PM |
Never been beat?
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[QUOTE=Fred]The people who warn you about how rough rallyx is on your car usually have never even been to one. :rolleyes:
I've rallyxed my 2001 2.5RS, my 2005 WRX, my 2005 FXT, my 2004 STi, and my 2000 2.5RS and never broken anything. I own half of one of our sites (my mom owns the other half), and I go out and play in it all the time. So I've probably done the equivalent of 100 rallyxes out there, not counting the rallyxes that I've actually competed in. Nobody has ever been faster than me and my 2000 2.5RS at any rallyx I've competed in with it, and I have never done anything worse than stuffing dirt in the bead of a tire - and that was because I was on rally tires, and had made the ASSumption that I could drive any way I wanted and not have to worry about the tires. :lol:
If you keep your car in good condition and don't have modifications that are contrary to what a rallyx car should have (like lowering springs), you shouldn't have any problems. If, however, you're skeered you're going to "hurt your car" and you get a POS car to rallyx in order to "save" your daily driver, you WILL break something. POS cars are called "POS cars" for a reason, you know? But when people see the POS cars breaking on course, they make the ASSumption that their well-maintained car is going to break as well.
Just remember that you always have the option of SLOWING DOWN if you feel that the ruts are too rough for your car. Just because there's a timer running doesn't mean you have to blast through foot-deep ruts. I'm always thinking about what could be coming up (the course you walk in the morning isn't the same course you'll see on your 3rd run :eek: ) and planning alternate routes through the corner in case I see something I don't want to drive through. And I always try to take the smoothest line through the corner - the rougher (or softer) it gets, the less power you're going to be applying and the slower you're going to exit the corner.
If you're still scared, just go watch a rallyx in your area and see what kind of courses they run and what kind of hazards develop. Different clubs have different ideas of "safe" :lol: so personal experience is the best judge.[/QUOTE]
You need to bring that never been beat rs to the ner rallyx the 19th. Need to see if those southern boys can drive in the snow. As for not breaking, anything is possible if you drive hard enough. At the last ner rallyx the fastest car of the day was a stock car taken out by a rock because of the lack of a skidpan. :(
I've rallyxed my 2001 2.5RS, my 2005 WRX, my 2005 FXT, my 2004 STi, and my 2000 2.5RS and never broken anything. I own half of one of our sites (my mom owns the other half), and I go out and play in it all the time. So I've probably done the equivalent of 100 rallyxes out there, not counting the rallyxes that I've actually competed in. Nobody has ever been faster than me and my 2000 2.5RS at any rallyx I've competed in with it, and I have never done anything worse than stuffing dirt in the bead of a tire - and that was because I was on rally tires, and had made the ASSumption that I could drive any way I wanted and not have to worry about the tires. :lol:
If you keep your car in good condition and don't have modifications that are contrary to what a rallyx car should have (like lowering springs), you shouldn't have any problems. If, however, you're skeered you're going to "hurt your car" and you get a POS car to rallyx in order to "save" your daily driver, you WILL break something. POS cars are called "POS cars" for a reason, you know? But when people see the POS cars breaking on course, they make the ASSumption that their well-maintained car is going to break as well.
Just remember that you always have the option of SLOWING DOWN if you feel that the ruts are too rough for your car. Just because there's a timer running doesn't mean you have to blast through foot-deep ruts. I'm always thinking about what could be coming up (the course you walk in the morning isn't the same course you'll see on your 3rd run :eek: ) and planning alternate routes through the corner in case I see something I don't want to drive through. And I always try to take the smoothest line through the corner - the rougher (or softer) it gets, the less power you're going to be applying and the slower you're going to exit the corner.
If you're still scared, just go watch a rallyx in your area and see what kind of courses they run and what kind of hazards develop. Different clubs have different ideas of "safe" :lol: so personal experience is the best judge.[/QUOTE]
You need to bring that never been beat rs to the ner rallyx the 19th. Need to see if those southern boys can drive in the snow. As for not breaking, anything is possible if you drive hard enough. At the last ner rallyx the fastest car of the day was a stock car taken out by a rock because of the lack of a skidpan. :(
| alacrity024 | 03-06-2006 07:52 PM |
[QUOTE=LGT-FST]You need to bring that never been beat rs to the ner rallyx the 19th. Need to see if those southern boys can drive in the snow. As for not breaking, anything is possible if you drive hard enough. At the last ner rallyx the fastest car of the day was a stock car taken out by a rock because of the lack of a skidpan. :([/QUOTE]
that's where i'm planning to take my WRX..
snow eh? do you have snowguns? i was actually thinking that buying a couple of snowguns and a parking lot would be a pretty badass way to run rallycrosses.......
that's where i'm planning to take my WRX..
snow eh? do you have snowguns? i was actually thinking that buying a couple of snowguns and a parking lot would be a pretty badass way to run rallycrosses.......
| RRR-K2 | 03-06-2006 08:02 PM |
[QUOTE=RallyCat66]I run dedicated cars (Civic, Arrow, GTI) because I know that I'm way too competitive to lay back and will beat the car within an inch of it's life if I have a shot at winning.[/QUOTE]
That's never stopped me from running a stock car/daily driver, or someone else car for that matter ;)
But seriously, add a few protective elements and drive accordingly (or not :devil: ) and a Sube will hold up great! Ball joints and struts don't last forever anyway :p
P.M. me and we can talk (or I can swing by your place after my class at Antioch on Saturday).
Matt Kennedy
[URL=http://www.RockyRoadRacing.com][U][COLOR=DarkRed]www.RockyRoadRacing.com[/COLOR][/U][/URL]
That's never stopped me from running a stock car/daily driver, or someone else car for that matter ;)
But seriously, add a few protective elements and drive accordingly (or not :devil: ) and a Sube will hold up great! Ball joints and struts don't last forever anyway :p
P.M. me and we can talk (or I can swing by your place after my class at Antioch on Saturday).
Matt Kennedy
[URL=http://www.RockyRoadRacing.com][U][COLOR=DarkRed]www.RockyRoadRacing.com[/COLOR][/U][/URL]
| WRXedUSA | 03-06-2006 08:24 PM |
[QUOTE=alacrity024]:confused: explain?[/QUOTE]
Basically the 'profile' or height of your tire in comparison to the wheel.
The more rubber, the more flex, the more energy it will absorb. It makes it easier to drive and easier on your suspension. I loved rallyxing on my old RE92's. That's about all they were good for!
[IMG]http://www.nebraska-subaru.com/interactive/albums/album47/DCP_2390.jpg[/IMG]
If you can score some cheap snow/ice tires, that is your ideal 'basic' tire for rallyX.
Basically the 'profile' or height of your tire in comparison to the wheel.
The more rubber, the more flex, the more energy it will absorb. It makes it easier to drive and easier on your suspension. I loved rallyxing on my old RE92's. That's about all they were good for!
[IMG]http://www.nebraska-subaru.com/interactive/albums/album47/DCP_2390.jpg[/IMG]
If you can score some cheap snow/ice tires, that is your ideal 'basic' tire for rallyX.
| RRR-K2 | 03-06-2006 10:06 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]The more rubber, the more flex, the more energy it will absorb.[/QUOTE]
FINALLY! Somebody else who understands that :cool:
I seriously believe that an overly inflated tire is actually more likely to result in a popped bead than one that is not inflated enough (you can actually run them at several psi less that what you would for regualr road use - trust me ;) )
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]If you can score some cheap snow/ice tires, that is your ideal 'basic' tire for rallyX.[/QUOTE]
Amen to that! :disco:
Matt Kennedy
[URL=http://www.RockyRoadRacing.com][U][COLOR=DarkRed]www.RockyRoadRacing.com[/COLOR][/U][/URL]
FINALLY! Somebody else who understands that :cool:
I seriously believe that an overly inflated tire is actually more likely to result in a popped bead than one that is not inflated enough (you can actually run them at several psi less that what you would for regualr road use - trust me ;) )
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]If you can score some cheap snow/ice tires, that is your ideal 'basic' tire for rallyX.[/QUOTE]
Amen to that! :disco:
Matt Kennedy
[URL=http://www.RockyRoadRacing.com][U][COLOR=DarkRed]www.RockyRoadRacing.com[/COLOR][/U][/URL]
| thechickencow | 03-06-2006 10:59 PM |
Just to back up with what others said...
It really depends on the course, but I don't recall ever feeling like I *needed* my skid plate on all but one of the rallyx courses I've driven. The rear diff protector is nice but I'd be very suprised if you managed to break a rear diff rallyxing either - just not all that likely.
Flaps are cheap. If you want black ones I can sell you mine but I'd have to ship them - I've been wanting to make a new set soon anyway. (pm me)
I'd talk with locals and find out what types of courses they drive on. If its like most the heavy armor/skid stuff isn't all that necessary. Drive within your limits and learn about how to navigate ruts/dips/terrain. My advice that'll keep you on 4 wheels is don't fight across the ruts, don't brake in a corner (brake before and accelerate through), and don't let off abruptly in a corner while you're understeering. I've seen about 10 cars roll at rallycrosses for various reasons, only one or two were drivers that were driving within their limits that just got caught up wrong (clubrally drivers). (These were not SCCA rallyxes btw).
Jay
[url]www.step2racing.com[/url]
It really depends on the course, but I don't recall ever feeling like I *needed* my skid plate on all but one of the rallyx courses I've driven. The rear diff protector is nice but I'd be very suprised if you managed to break a rear diff rallyxing either - just not all that likely.
Flaps are cheap. If you want black ones I can sell you mine but I'd have to ship them - I've been wanting to make a new set soon anyway. (pm me)
I'd talk with locals and find out what types of courses they drive on. If its like most the heavy armor/skid stuff isn't all that necessary. Drive within your limits and learn about how to navigate ruts/dips/terrain. My advice that'll keep you on 4 wheels is don't fight across the ruts, don't brake in a corner (brake before and accelerate through), and don't let off abruptly in a corner while you're understeering. I've seen about 10 cars roll at rallycrosses for various reasons, only one or two were drivers that were driving within their limits that just got caught up wrong (clubrally drivers). (These were not SCCA rallyxes btw).
Jay
[url]www.step2racing.com[/url]
| alacrity024 | 03-07-2006 12:01 AM |
[QUOTE=thechickencow]I've seen about 10 cars roll at rallycrosses for various reasons, only one or two were drivers that were driving within their limits that just got caught up wrong (clubrally drivers). [/QUOTE]
:eek:
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..
:eek:
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..
| dowroa | 03-07-2006 10:15 AM |
[QUOTE=alacrity024]:eek:
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..[/QUOTE]
Well, I am going to yank [b]Fred[/b]'s chain here for a moment ;) ::
- IMHO, I like to be able to drive 100% -- That is how I have fun. That is not something that I was able to do in my STi on a rallyX course for a few reasons (the most significant of those was having a car that was setup for autoX, IMHO). However, being a newbie, I KNEW that I didn't know everything about rallyX, and that I COULD make a mistake, and go sideways too fast across some ruts and I *could* possibly roll the car or destroy a CV joint on an axle.
As a result, I picked up a CHEAP rallyX car with [b]solo2wrx[/b] and we codrive it. It was a 1990 Legacy with 270K miles (?) and an automatic AWD car. That car is a BLAST, and *could* be registered on the road to get to and from events (IFF we need to). However, it allows my to go into a course with *close* to no fear, and have fun.
Now, depending on what type of driver you are, and how hard you push yourself, your DD COULD easliy do this. MANY people bring their DD and autoX cars out and do FINE. For me, I would rather bring out an 3-4K car and set it up as a good DD/RallyX car and not have to work about anything.
With that said, I am still a firm believer that you have to accept that things WILL break, and that accidents WILL happen. As long as you can accept something (which would in all cases be minor -- CV boot torn, rock chips on car, plastic crap under the car getting ripped out, dirt in car), you will be FINE.
I would just go in with the FULL understanding of what COULD happen, and get a good idea of what WILL happen. That way, you are prepared for everything.
:)
- dow
Ps. My STi has suffered WAY more damage autoXing than it did in its brief time rallyXing.
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..[/QUOTE]
Well, I am going to yank [b]Fred[/b]'s chain here for a moment ;) ::
- IMHO, I like to be able to drive 100% -- That is how I have fun. That is not something that I was able to do in my STi on a rallyX course for a few reasons (the most significant of those was having a car that was setup for autoX, IMHO). However, being a newbie, I KNEW that I didn't know everything about rallyX, and that I COULD make a mistake, and go sideways too fast across some ruts and I *could* possibly roll the car or destroy a CV joint on an axle.
As a result, I picked up a CHEAP rallyX car with [b]solo2wrx[/b] and we codrive it. It was a 1990 Legacy with 270K miles (?) and an automatic AWD car. That car is a BLAST, and *could* be registered on the road to get to and from events (IFF we need to). However, it allows my to go into a course with *close* to no fear, and have fun.
Now, depending on what type of driver you are, and how hard you push yourself, your DD COULD easliy do this. MANY people bring their DD and autoX cars out and do FINE. For me, I would rather bring out an 3-4K car and set it up as a good DD/RallyX car and not have to work about anything.
With that said, I am still a firm believer that you have to accept that things WILL break, and that accidents WILL happen. As long as you can accept something (which would in all cases be minor -- CV boot torn, rock chips on car, plastic crap under the car getting ripped out, dirt in car), you will be FINE.
I would just go in with the FULL understanding of what COULD happen, and get a good idea of what WILL happen. That way, you are prepared for everything.
:)
- dow
Ps. My STi has suffered WAY more damage autoXing than it did in its brief time rallyXing.
| alacrity024 | 03-07-2006 10:55 AM |
[QUOTE=thechickencow]Flaps are cheap. If you want black ones I can sell you mine but I'd have to ship them - I've been wanting to make a new set soon anyway. (pm me)[/QUOTE]
clean your pm box!1!
clean your pm box!1!
| WRXedUSA | 03-07-2006 11:01 AM |
[QUOTE=alacrity024]:eek:
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..[/QUOTE]
Yes, cars rolling is a serious possibility. Catching an edge or rut can ruin your day. It's even more of a problem to the SCCA and the EVM as they have to go through the safety reporting rig-a-maroo.
Like tcc said, I doubt you need armor or flaps. The course designers would never make a course that would intentionally tear up your car.
I would rallyx my STi if I didnt have that low front lip and a stiff tarmac suspension.
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..[/QUOTE]
Yes, cars rolling is a serious possibility. Catching an edge or rut can ruin your day. It's even more of a problem to the SCCA and the EVM as they have to go through the safety reporting rig-a-maroo.
Like tcc said, I doubt you need armor or flaps. The course designers would never make a course that would intentionally tear up your car.
I would rallyx my STi if I didnt have that low front lip and a stiff tarmac suspension.
| Fred | 03-07-2006 11:01 AM |
[QUOTE]You need to bring that never been beat rs to the ner rallyx the 19th. Need to see if those southern boys can drive in the snow. As for not breaking, anything is possible if you drive hard enough. At the last ner rallyx the fastest car of the day was a stock car taken out by a rock because of the lack of a skidpan. [/QUOTE]
Don't have any snow tires. :) You provide the snow tires and pay for my travel, and get somebody to take over for me at our club's autox school/ points autox #1 that weekend (I'm event chair), and I'm there. :p I'll meet you halfway at Oakland Acres sometime, though. :) Looking forward to running up there again.
And about the rock... IMO you shouldn't be allowing "normal" cars to run on a course with rocks that big. I've had to stop an event to dig up some brick-sized rocks at our other site (no rocks at all at my place). Can't have the noobs going home with busted sidewalls or oilpans and telling everyone about how rough rallyx is on a car... :lol:
To dowroa - I drive 100% where it's safe to do so; I turn it down to 95% or whatever when I need to (especially if the gap to 2nd place is large). :p
I haven't been using a skid plate or mudflaps or other protection on my cars, but if there was the danger of rocks busting something under the car or chipping the paint, I'd install them. Been planning to anyway just for the bling factor, but haven't gotten around to it. :lol:
Don't have any snow tires. :) You provide the snow tires and pay for my travel, and get somebody to take over for me at our club's autox school/ points autox #1 that weekend (I'm event chair), and I'm there. :p I'll meet you halfway at Oakland Acres sometime, though. :) Looking forward to running up there again.
And about the rock... IMO you shouldn't be allowing "normal" cars to run on a course with rocks that big. I've had to stop an event to dig up some brick-sized rocks at our other site (no rocks at all at my place). Can't have the noobs going home with busted sidewalls or oilpans and telling everyone about how rough rallyx is on a car... :lol:
To dowroa - I drive 100% where it's safe to do so; I turn it down to 95% or whatever when I need to (especially if the gap to 2nd place is large). :p
I haven't been using a skid plate or mudflaps or other protection on my cars, but if there was the danger of rocks busting something under the car or chipping the paint, I'd install them. Been planning to anyway just for the bling factor, but haven't gotten around to it. :lol:
| Chromer | 03-07-2006 11:16 AM |
[QUOTE=alacrity024]:eek:
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..[/QUOTE]
<shrug> NER is VERY proactive about changing the course, even mid-group, if the ruts start to grow... I do recall seeing Geoff Clark's Saab 99 pretty far up on two wheels at the Maine Forest RallyX a few years back - the course was *immediately* changed and I don't believe that venue has been used since (It was a gravel pit with very soft gravel/sand).
And something something personal responsibility. You could roll it anyplace you get over about 30mph, given sufficient asshattery and complete sideways-ness. Just remember that sideways is slower and you'll be fine.
wow.. rolling the car.. not something i'd even considered for some reason.. boy that would really ruin my day now wouldn't it...... damn..[/QUOTE]
<shrug> NER is VERY proactive about changing the course, even mid-group, if the ruts start to grow... I do recall seeing Geoff Clark's Saab 99 pretty far up on two wheels at the Maine Forest RallyX a few years back - the course was *immediately* changed and I don't believe that venue has been used since (It was a gravel pit with very soft gravel/sand).
And something something personal responsibility. You could roll it anyplace you get over about 30mph, given sufficient asshattery and complete sideways-ness. Just remember that sideways is slower and you'll be fine.
| dowroa | 03-07-2006 11:17 AM |
To [b]Fred[/b]::
[quote]
- IMHO, I like to be able to drive 100% -- That is how I have fun.
[/quote]
I am learning moderation ;)
I am waiting to see how I fair in an RS/NA2.5L next year (wife plan v2.0) ;)
- dow
[quote]
- IMHO, I like to be able to drive 100% -- That is how I have fun.
[/quote]
I am learning moderation ;)
I am waiting to see how I fair in an RS/NA2.5L next year (wife plan v2.0) ;)
- dow
| Sideshowbob | 03-07-2006 11:19 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]
Like tcc said, I doubt you need armor or flaps. The course designers would never make a course that would intentionally tear up your car.
[/QUOTE]
I think everyone in this thread is underestimating the rocky and sandy nature of the courses in the Northeast.
Like tcc said, I doubt you need armor or flaps. The course designers would never make a course that would intentionally tear up your car.
[/QUOTE]
I think everyone in this thread is underestimating the rocky and sandy nature of the courses in the Northeast.
| WRXedUSA | 03-07-2006 11:47 AM |
[QUOTE=BeantownWRX]I think everyone in this thread is underestimating the rocky and sandy nature of the courses in the Northeast.[/QUOTE]
As you can see, we rallyX in pastures.... :lol:
As you can see, we rallyX in pastures.... :lol:
| spdracr00 | 03-07-2006 11:56 AM |
we rallycross in a giant field.. oh.. look how low and sexy that car looks.... :)
[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/spdracr00/20050925161.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/spdracr00/20050925161.jpg[/IMG]
| Clavo | 03-07-2006 12:34 PM |
How does nike say ? Just Do It�
We probably had one of the more technical (read dangerous) RallyX courses around.
[IMG]http://Clavoberg.smugmug.com/photos/49765203-L.jpg[/IMG]
And in the 3 years that were run there, there were only a few incidents. We had to navigate around block walls, watertanks, a b4rn (w00t) and elevation changes at night. :eek: Now, thanks to Eminent Domain, we have lost our local venue and have to drive to further events. Although they are held on much more open terrain.
The only problem I have had was my own fault. I cut a corner too close and dropped a wheel into a rut and snapped an endlink.
IBdisconnectyourswaybar.
Like all have said, go out and have fun, learn your car and how it handles. You WILL get hooked. And your car will get dirty :devil:
Clavo
We probably had one of the more technical (read dangerous) RallyX courses around.
[IMG]http://Clavoberg.smugmug.com/photos/49765203-L.jpg[/IMG]
And in the 3 years that were run there, there were only a few incidents. We had to navigate around block walls, watertanks, a b4rn (w00t) and elevation changes at night. :eek: Now, thanks to Eminent Domain, we have lost our local venue and have to drive to further events. Although they are held on much more open terrain.
The only problem I have had was my own fault. I cut a corner too close and dropped a wheel into a rut and snapped an endlink.
IBdisconnectyourswaybar.
Like all have said, go out and have fun, learn your car and how it handles. You WILL get hooked. And your car will get dirty :devil:
Clavo
| Fred | 03-07-2006 01:05 PM |
[QUOTE]And something something [B]personal responsibility[/B]. [B]You could roll it anyplace you get over about 30mph, given sufficient asshattery [/B] and complete sideways-ness. Just remember that [B]sideways is slower [/B] and you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
Amen! :lol:
I've seen a POS ($300) car roll, but the kid was pretty much [I]trying[/I] to roll it. And it was at a school, not a regular event. :rolleyes:
And a certain "Green" H6 Impreza rally car got waaaayyyyy up on two wheels one time, but he's just plain nutty... :lol: (he did say he regretted driving that crazy due to the number of noobs present who might try to copy his antics :) )
Amen! :lol:
I've seen a POS ($300) car roll, but the kid was pretty much [I]trying[/I] to roll it. And it was at a school, not a regular event. :rolleyes:
And a certain "Green" H6 Impreza rally car got waaaayyyyy up on two wheels one time, but he's just plain nutty... :lol: (he did say he regretted driving that crazy due to the number of noobs present who might try to copy his antics :) )
| dowroa | 03-07-2006 01:07 PM |
[QUOTE=Fred]Amen! :lol:
I've seen a POS ($300) car roll, but the kid was pretty much [I]trying[/I] to roll it. And it was at a school, not a regular event. :rolleyes:
And a certain "Green" H6 Impreza rally car got waaaayyyyy up on two wheels one time, but he's just plain nutty... :lol: (he did say he regretted driving that crazy due to the number of noobs present who might try to copy his antics :) )[/QUOTE]
This didn't happen to be the same rallyX where people were jumping DOWN the terrances at the farms, was it?
Man... I missed something good there :D Or... maybe it was a good thing I WASN'T there ;D
- dow
I've seen a POS ($300) car roll, but the kid was pretty much [I]trying[/I] to roll it. And it was at a school, not a regular event. :rolleyes:
And a certain "Green" H6 Impreza rally car got waaaayyyyy up on two wheels one time, but he's just plain nutty... :lol: (he did say he regretted driving that crazy due to the number of noobs present who might try to copy his antics :) )[/QUOTE]
This didn't happen to be the same rallyX where people were jumping DOWN the terrances at the farms, was it?
Man... I missed something good there :D Or... maybe it was a good thing I WASN'T there ;D
- dow
| thechickencow | 03-07-2006 05:44 PM |
I'm cleaning my box now.
| Butt Dyno | 03-07-2006 05:50 PM |
[QUOTE=ClavoWRX]We probably had one of the more technical (read dangerous) RallyX courses around.
[IMG]http://Clavoberg.smugmug.com/photos/49765203-L.jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]Is that the place where Gravel Girl's car committed suicide?
[IMG]http://Clavoberg.smugmug.com/photos/49765203-L.jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]Is that the place where Gravel Girl's car committed suicide?
| Clavo | 03-07-2006 06:11 PM |
[QUOTE=ButtDyno]Is that the place where Gravel Girl's car committed suicide?[/QUOTE]
Ding Ding Ding.
Drivers left on the return lap about 20ft past the falken/piaa sign in that picture. Watch out for the cement sewer pipe standing vertical.
Ding Ding Ding.
Drivers left on the return lap about 20ft past the falken/piaa sign in that picture. Watch out for the cement sewer pipe standing vertical.
| westphalia | 03-08-2006 01:38 PM |
You should try more rallyx events alacrity, I went to my first event with less than 3000 miles on my new 04 WRX. I've been to a few and never had any damage. I wasn't driving 100% (even though I was trying :p ) and didn't feel like I was putting my car in too much of harm's way. The ruts can get a bit deep (in soft soil) but the WRX really seemed pretty solid and took it well. I'm actually more concerned with autox's and killing my transmission due to the AWD.
Aside: My RE92s are spent and I'm going to be getting some Toyo Proxes 4s (staying with 205/55R16s). Should I try one more event on the RE92s or should I get the Toyos on first? I don't want to put brand new tires on and then shred them (probably should get the road hazard warranty).
Fred: How is the field this year? Still pretty even? I know there was talk of putting in a jump but I'm sure I would have heard some more chatter in SE about that. I don't think I would be brave enough to try it though. :p
Aside: My RE92s are spent and I'm going to be getting some Toyo Proxes 4s (staying with 205/55R16s). Should I try one more event on the RE92s or should I get the Toyos on first? I don't want to put brand new tires on and then shred them (probably should get the road hazard warranty).
Fred: How is the field this year? Still pretty even? I know there was talk of putting in a jump but I'm sure I would have heard some more chatter in SE about that. I don't think I would be brave enough to try it though. :p
| KC | 03-08-2006 02:18 PM |
[QUOTE=ButtDyno]Is that the place where Gravel Girl tried committing suicide?[/QUOTE]
Fiksed.
Alacrity... get out to more events. I try to do rally-x when I can and they're always a ball. The people that run the NER events are 'wicked pissah' as are the events. :)
--kC
Fiksed.
Alacrity... get out to more events. I try to do rally-x when I can and they're always a ball. The people that run the NER events are 'wicked pissah' as are the events. :)
--kC
| alacrity024 | 03-08-2006 02:57 PM |
KC-
i'm intending to get myself to a lot more events now that i've broken my cherry with the recent ice race.. it showed me, more importantly than anything else, how simple it really is to participate. getting my car out for hot laps at NHIS might not be so simple, but ice racing, rallycrossing and autocrossing are all very easily accessable to me and i am much less intimidated by them now that i've been out and seen how such events operate.
now all i need is for you to ride along with me giving helpful tips like "more IDP!" and "dial in more RUF!" :lol:
i'm intending to get myself to a lot more events now that i've broken my cherry with the recent ice race.. it showed me, more importantly than anything else, how simple it really is to participate. getting my car out for hot laps at NHIS might not be so simple, but ice racing, rallycrossing and autocrossing are all very easily accessable to me and i am much less intimidated by them now that i've been out and seen how such events operate.
now all i need is for you to ride along with me giving helpful tips like "more IDP!" and "dial in more RUF!" :lol:
| Fred | 03-08-2006 03:12 PM |
westphalia...
We've been running some pretty good courses lately. The afternoon course last time was a blast!
I'm still thinking about setting up a small jump (optional); just need to get my niece's boyfriend over here to help build it. He builds and competes on motocross courses in his spare time... :D We've actually had some minor jumps on previous courses - but only for those with zero damping. :lol:
Having a family cookout on Sunday; might get the tractor/boxblade and the RS out and play around a little. :devil:
We've been running some pretty good courses lately. The afternoon course last time was a blast!
I'm still thinking about setting up a small jump (optional); just need to get my niece's boyfriend over here to help build it. He builds and competes on motocross courses in his spare time... :D We've actually had some minor jumps on previous courses - but only for those with zero damping. :lol:
Having a family cookout on Sunday; might get the tractor/boxblade and the RS out and play around a little. :devil:
| KC | 03-08-2006 03:23 PM |
[QUOTE=alacrity024]KC-
i'm intending to get myself to a lot more events now that i've broken my cherry with the recent ice race.. it showed me, more importantly than anything else, how simple it really is to participate. getting my car out for hot laps at NHIS might not be so simple, but ice racing, rallycrossing and autocrossing are all very easily accessable to me and i am much less intimidated by them now that i've been out and seen how such events operate.
now all i need is for you to ride along with me giving helpful tips like "more IDP!" and "dial in more RUF!" :lol:[/QUOTE]
That's the easy part. Can I call you Klaus? :lol:
i'm intending to get myself to a lot more events now that i've broken my cherry with the recent ice race.. it showed me, more importantly than anything else, how simple it really is to participate. getting my car out for hot laps at NHIS might not be so simple, but ice racing, rallycrossing and autocrossing are all very easily accessable to me and i am much less intimidated by them now that i've been out and seen how such events operate.
now all i need is for you to ride along with me giving helpful tips like "more IDP!" and "dial in more RUF!" :lol:[/QUOTE]
That's the easy part. Can I call you Klaus? :lol:
| w0rXer | 03-08-2006 04:15 PM |
You can DoooITTT!!!!!!!
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If you are not worried about the paint then I would say go for it.
I have been rallycrossing for the past two seasons with nothing more than a front skid plate and some trucker mud flaps. I haven't had any mechanical issues resulting from running rallyx. The only mechanical issues I have experience with my WRX have been as a result of on road activities.
The rear diff protector will serve more as psyche-armor than anything else. Suspension upgrades will allow you to drive more aggressively on course but are by no means mandatory.
[IMG]http://www.rallyrebels.com/Media/Photos/051405/DSC01212.JPG[/IMG]
You can ruin your car without ever leaving your driveway. Of course, it is up to the driver to make good driving decisions.
I have been rallycrossing for the past two seasons with nothing more than a front skid plate and some trucker mud flaps. I haven't had any mechanical issues resulting from running rallyx. The only mechanical issues I have experience with my WRX have been as a result of on road activities.
The rear diff protector will serve more as psyche-armor than anything else. Suspension upgrades will allow you to drive more aggressively on course but are by no means mandatory.
[IMG]http://www.rallyrebels.com/Media/Photos/051405/DSC01212.JPG[/IMG]
You can ruin your car without ever leaving your driveway. Of course, it is up to the driver to make good driving decisions.
| alacrity024 | 03-08-2006 04:39 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]That's the easy part. Can I call you Klaus? :lol:[/QUOTE]
you can call me anything you want, except pumpkin.. that's for fishy..
you can call me anything you want, except pumpkin.. that's for fishy..
| randy zimmer | 03-31-2006 08:36 AM |
Greg wrote:
"How is the Rally Build Manual for the Imprezas coming Randy?"
Doing fine, 2nd update has gone out to owners.
The ice racing club in Syracuse is close to agreement on holding ice races year-round.
Stay tuned.
rz
"How is the Rally Build Manual for the Imprezas coming Randy?"
Doing fine, 2nd update has gone out to owners.
The ice racing club in Syracuse is close to agreement on holding ice races year-round.
Stay tuned.
rz
| dowroa | 03-31-2006 09:33 AM |
[quote="Fred"]westphalia...
We've been running some pretty good courses lately. The afternoon course last time was a blast!
I'm still thinking about setting up a small jump (optional); just need to get my niece's boyfriend over here to help build it. He builds and competes on motocross courses in his spare time... We've actually had some minor jumps on previous courses - but only for those with zero damping.
Having a family cookout on Sunday; might get the tractor/boxblade and the RS out and play around a little. [/quote]OMG. Old reply, but I think we have seen enough "small jumps" for a while.
I don't want to air dirty laundry, but lets just say that accidents DO happen at rallyXes (as well as track events, autoXes [which I am personally recovering from atm], etc...). I think in ALL cases, just driving WITHIN the limits eliminates 90% of the problems. I just think people need to learn to 'drive smarter' at rallyXes, and all CAN be fine.
Dynamic course conditions of rallyX + cumulative time makes rallyX more of a challenge. I like it that way :D
- dow
We've been running some pretty good courses lately. The afternoon course last time was a blast!
I'm still thinking about setting up a small jump (optional); just need to get my niece's boyfriend over here to help build it. He builds and competes on motocross courses in his spare time... We've actually had some minor jumps on previous courses - but only for those with zero damping.
Having a family cookout on Sunday; might get the tractor/boxblade and the RS out and play around a little. [/quote]OMG. Old reply, but I think we have seen enough "small jumps" for a while.
I don't want to air dirty laundry, but lets just say that accidents DO happen at rallyXes (as well as track events, autoXes [which I am personally recovering from atm], etc...). I think in ALL cases, just driving WITHIN the limits eliminates 90% of the problems. I just think people need to learn to 'drive smarter' at rallyXes, and all CAN be fine.
Dynamic course conditions of rallyX + cumulative time makes rallyX more of a challenge. I like it that way :D
- dow
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