Thứ Tư, 1 tháng 2, 2017

Fire Extinguisher, who has em? part 1

Yesitsdrew5310 04-20-2006 04:22 AM

Fire Extinguisher, who has em?
I wanted to see how many of you have Fire Extinguishers. I think they are a good thing to get to protect your investment. Even if you never have to use it, spending $15-20 now, could save you thousands of dollars that you spent on your car.


I just moved mine from my trunk to beside my driver seat:
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gomikeyp 04-20-2006 05:56 AM

i should get one...
markadopolus 04-20-2006 06:20 AM

OMG go post on a honduh forum you rycer!!!11








j/k. It's good just incase anything does happen. At least it's not chrome and mounted on your A pillar.
living4surf 04-20-2006 10:14 AM

i have one mounted in my trunk mostly because i am running methanol so there is a gallon of very flamable liquid in my engine bay at all times
Furious George 04-20-2006 10:28 AM

I have had one in my car at all times since an engine fire almost detroyed my turbo Civic. luckily, I had a friend with me who had a few beers and he pissed the fire out for me. That piss saved me thousands, but made the car stink to high heaven.

Anyway, I just picked up a WRX and made sure to mount an extinguisher in there within days of getting it. Paid <$20 at Lowes.
Vew 04-20-2006 10:53 AM

I have one mounted into my trunk. However, realistically, there's little you can do once your engine bay does catch on fire. If you can see flames and smoke is comming out of the hood (when I mean smoke, i mean from fire), it's already too dangerous to handle by yourself. As much as you value your car, your life is more important; let the fire department handle it and get away from the car.
specialev 04-20-2006 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=Vew]I have one mounted into my trunk. However, realistically, there's little you can do once your engine bay does catch on fire. If you can see flames and smoke is comming out of the hood (when I mean smoke, i mean from fire), it's already too dangerous to handle by yourself. As much as you value your car, your life is more important; let the fire department handle it and get away from the car.[/QUOTE]

Um, no. Letting a car burn up for something you can easily put out yourself is totally stupid, not to mention cowardly. You don't need to call the FD until the fire spreads to the neighbors house.
Yesitsdrew5310 04-20-2006 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=specialev]You don't need to call the FD until the fire spreads to the neighbors house.[/QUOTE]
:lol:
Capt Crunch 04-20-2006 01:30 PM

I have one but I need to mount it on the inside of the car, right now it's in the trunk.

I'm debating putting it in front of the drivers seat or in front of the passenger seat. Any opinions?
kpmatt00 04-20-2006 01:57 PM

Didn't have one and my car burned, luckily there was a lot of snow around to use to put the fire out or i wud have needed more than a new engine.(which in itself was a lot)
Vew 04-20-2006 02:11 PM

[QUOTE=specialev]Um, no. Letting a car burn up for something you can easily put out yourself is totally stupid, not to mention cowardly. You don't need to call the FD until the fire spreads to the neighbors house.[/QUOTE]

Well, I understand how a small fire can be put out quite easily, but I will reiterate that I'm talking about where it's to the point where the engine is on fire. Regardless how small the fire, there is a reason people are told not to do anything and let the FD handling the situation. Mostly because of dumb people, but better safe then sorry.

[url]http://www.nsc.org/library/facts/carfire.htm[/url]

I like your neighbors house comment though :lol:
supersport 04-20-2006 02:24 PM

I'm in the market for one. What is the best class/type to get for a car?
hqp921 04-20-2006 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=Furious George]I have had one in my car at all times since an engine fire almost detroyed my turbo Civic. luckily, I had a friend with me who had a few beers and he pissed the fire out for me. That piss saved me thousands, but made the car stink to high heaven.

Anyway, I just picked up a WRX and made sure to mount an extinguisher in there within days of getting it. Paid <$20 at Lowes.[/QUOTE]

This is why I always keep a few beers around in the car... more portable than a fire extinguisher. :banana:


:lol:
theicewall 04-20-2006 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=Vew]Well, I understand how a small fire can be put out quite easily, but I will reiterate that I'm talking about where it's to the point where the engine is on fire. Regardless how small the fire, there is a reason people are told not to do anything and let the FD handling the situation. Mostly because of dumb people, but better safe then sorry.

[url]http://www.nsc.org/library/facts/carfire.htm[/url]

I like your neighbors house comment though :lol:[/QUOTE]

My fiancee's father's mint condition 69'GTO caught on fire because someone started it without the carb being in the engine and it caught on fire and the fire department came and let the car burn to the ground only preventing it from spreading to anything else. The fire department doesnt care if you have a rare or special item, you do... so take care of it yourself if you want it done right and done quickly. By the time the fire department arrives it'll be twice as bad and twice too late.
shemoves 04-20-2006 02:37 PM

I've got a similar one from wal-mart. It's not only for my own sake though...if I drive up on something it may save a person's life. Let's say I drive up on an accident and someone is stuck in a car that is on fire. Although it may not save the car, the extinguisher may give another rescuer those extra couple of seconds needed to get the person out. Also, although very small, there is a window at which a fire in an engine bay can be put out.
MFR Sweep 04-20-2006 02:38 PM

That little extinguisher is good for nothing more than putting a person out. And it is arguable if excelerants are involve. I am required to carry (at the rally) one roughly 2.5 times the capacity of that one. and those are used only for people. Granted course closing usually has a 50lb dry chem that might keep the fire contained in a car for a while.
WgnWheel 04-20-2006 02:56 PM

I have two of these, one in the wrx and one in the 240 which both see track days. friends 240 caught fire at the track a few weeks ago and the extinguisher saved the car from severe damage.
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specialev 04-20-2006 03:14 PM

Way back in 1999, my Jaguar caught fire while I was driving it to work and one of those tinky little dry chemical fire extinguishers saved my ass. Boy that stuff was a pain to clean off the block. I wish I could still get Halon.

The important thing to do when putting out an engine fire is to just crack the hood a little bit, just enough to squirt the fire. Open it too much and you are just giving the fire more fuel to burn and it can flare up with you nearby.
LastResort 04-20-2006 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=specialev]Way back in 1999, my Jaguar caught fire while I was driving it to work and one of those tinky little dry chemical fire extinguishers saved my ass. Boy that stuff was a pain to clean off the block. I wish I could still get Halon.

The important thing to do when putting out an engine fire is to just crack the hood a little bit, just enough to squirt the fire. Open it too much and you are just giving the fire more fuel to burn and it can flare up with you nearby.[/QUOTE]

I've been told to never crack the hood, just shoot it through the grill. Not saying you are wrong, just posting what I've been told.
Hank3 04-20-2006 03:41 PM

Mine be in my trunk :)
jay25RS 04-20-2006 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=specialev]You don't need to call the FD until the fire spreads to the neighbors house.[/QUOTE]


Actually, at this point, the neigbors will know and they should call. :lol:

-Jason
omaha03wrx 04-20-2006 05:03 PM

I have had a 2.5 pound ABC rated one in my car for the past two years. The only reason I installed it was because it is required to be within reach of the driver at our local road course. I mounted mine on the ridge of the floor right in front of the passenger seat.
imma_stocker 04-20-2006 05:25 PM

IF i had one, and IF my car caught on fire, wouldn't it be a better idea to spray it into the hood scoop, grill, and from the bottom of the engine bay? well, until i worry enough to get one, i'll just spit on it and do a rain dance around the fire.
Furious George 04-20-2006 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=LastResort]I've been told to never crack the hood, just shoot it through the grill. Not saying you are wrong, just posting what I've been told.[/QUOTE]

Well, you have to consider what the car is doing when the fire ignites. A car sitting still and burning will get less oxygen with the hood down, but most people have a fire start while in motion, in which case stopping the car and opening the hood ( to get at it with the extinguisher) will still give the fire less oxygen than when the car had air moving through it at whatever mph

I would think the same rule applies to a car hood as to a door in the house. Touch it first. If it is hot, leave it closed. If you can get your hand under there to open the hood, then do so to give full access to the fire. There is no reason for someone to burn a hand trying to open their hood, but there is also no reason to sit and watch a fire burn if you can open the hood and do something about it.
MFR Sweep 04-20-2006 07:19 PM

The only problem with that thinking, is that when you open the hood the flames tend to jump up. not to mention that there is usually fuel (pressurized) feeding the flames. This combines and now you are on fire standing in front of your car holding a fire extinguisher.


If your extinguisher is large enough (20lb or more) you should spray through the grill, then directly under the car (where the oxygen is comming from) then into the hood scoop and around the hood lines including the windsheild area. What you are trying to accomplish is to starve the flames of oxygen, not to smother them.

Now if your fire has subsided pull the hood release and spray a little bit more in the front before lifting the hood.
Tim-H 04-20-2006 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=shemoves]........ It's not only for my own sake though...if I drive up on something it may save a person's life. Let's say I drive up on an accident and someone is stuck in a car that is on fire. Although it may not save the car, the extinguisher may give another rescuer those extra couple of seconds needed to get the person out.......[/QUOTE]

this is the reason i've been thinking of putting one in. I'm just a procrastinator so i never get around to it.
adam_m_mcinerney 04-20-2006 08:51 PM

Alright, here it is from a firefighter. First TURN OFF THE CAR. If it turns off no more worries about excessive pressurized fuel being sprayed on you. Second check the hood for heat with the back of your hand. If it isn't burning you hand, crack the hood. The odds are the fire isn't that large yet. If the hood doesn't pop you have already burned up the hood latch chord and without tools and experience you aren't opening it. If it doesn't open go through the hood scoop. On an early stage fire a 2.5lb extinguisher will probably handle it. You'd be surprised what a 5-10ABC extinguisher can put out (or a water can for that matter). Anyways, crack the hood a little bit and spray away. It'll most likely go out. If you have a magnesium block forget everything I just said it probably won't go out without a halon extinguisher ($100 a pound or more). Anyways, that is about the gist of it. Oh and for all of you that have ever experienced a car fire, or experience one later, the gas tank isn't going to blow up. If anything it will melt and drop all that flaming gas on the ground, so get up hill and stay away if it is near the tank. If you hear a loud pop it is probably a tire melting and popping or the hydraulic hood openers or hatchback door openers. So the gas tank is still probably waiting to burn you up.
adam_m_mcinerney 04-20-2006 08:54 PM

Oh yeah and to answer your question supersport, a 2.5-10lb (depending on how big you want to go ABC extinguisher is what you want. If you can't find that (you should be able to it is the most common) get a BC instead.
LastResort 04-20-2006 09:13 PM

Thanks adam, that's what I was looking for.
twizzstyle 04-20-2006 09:46 PM

I have one in my buggy, cause that motor's a little sketchy, and if anything catches on fire, that fiberglass body will be gone QUICK :eek: :(
PARANOID56 04-21-2006 01:31 AM

[QUOTE=specialev] I wish I could still get Halon.

.[/QUOTE]

you can, you just have to look

i have two halon ones in my truck.

Shane

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