| KSs2001RS | 07-13-2003 11:52 PM |
Help! Hit in bumper!
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Well, had a jerk back rt into me yesterday and do some damage (see pics at [url]http://homepage.mac.com/kstiggger/PhotoAlbum15.html[/url] ). Do you think worth going through insurance or having him pay me money after getting estimates on repair from body shops near here? Need to know ASAP! Thnx.
KS
KS
| 2.5racer | 07-14-2003 02:05 AM |
looks alot like the damage done to my bumper, if it was his fault than its up to him, it'll be good for him to leave insurance out of it and pay you (insurance for him will go up), but if he decides to do the whole i'll give you the money next month, get his insurance involved and the police to make sure you get the money needed to repair it, your profile says you have a 2001 so blending shouldn't be too hard so the price of repair should be low.
just my 2c
just my 2c
| KSs2001RS | 07-14-2003 02:14 AM |
cost?
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any idea on cost? it was completely his fault, and he accepts responsibility. he says he could fix it (has a body shop for 50 yrs), but here's the deal; he was really insiting on not going through insurance, made the comment that my bumper looked repainted (it's orig factory), and i looked at the info again today and noticed his insurance he's carrying around expired 3/23/03!!!! not sure i want him touching my car, but not sure if i should have him pay me $ or go through insurance, need to decide by tomorrow afternoon for the 48-hr reporting period for insurance. what do you think? thnx.
ks
ks
| drees | 07-14-2003 03:16 AM |
When in doubt, go through insurance. You have nothing to gain here by not going through insurance except that you are helping this guy out.
| 2.5racer | 07-14-2003 03:31 AM |
exactly, i wouldn't trust him unless he put the money in your hand early in the morning, otherwise turn it in don't get yourself into trouble by trusting him, obviousely he's a little messed up if he's driving without insurance, and don't take it to him let your insurance deal with him, not at fault accidents only count against you if you have many tickets, sad thing is your insurance will have to pay for it if he dosn't have any. they'll take him to court for you and collect. black can be a hard match (not as hard as my silver) but newer cars need less blending so expect anywhere from 100 for spot fix to 350 for repainting of bumper and hood/fender blending.
| kenchan | 07-14-2003 11:17 AM |
looks expensive. if i was a real body shop i would replace the bumper cover so probably 1200-1500 easy.
if i was a cheepo bodyshop, probably use some filler and
repaint....probably 700-900.
if i was a cheepo bodyshop, probably use some filler and
repaint....probably 700-900.
| revumbra | 07-14-2003 11:34 AM |
hmm
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Well someone rearended me last month and I can tell you how much that was. I went through insurance mainly because I have a newer 03' WRX and just didn't want to deal with it.
A new bumper cover is 350 from a dealer with no pain.
Painting them is about 400 dollars.
That is with little to no blending as well.
Most places aren't going to replace the cover unless it is gouged into the plastic. I would say if they don't replace it, it will run you about 580 for totally repainting the bumper. Don't forget to add rental car into too since they will need your car for about 4 days.
Good luck
A new bumper cover is 350 from a dealer with no pain.
Painting them is about 400 dollars.
That is with little to no blending as well.
Most places aren't going to replace the cover unless it is gouged into the plastic. I would say if they don't replace it, it will run you about 580 for totally repainting the bumper. Don't forget to add rental car into too since they will need your car for about 4 days.
Good luck
| KSs2001RS | 07-14-2003 11:46 AM |
well, as to rental car, i'm not old enough to rent here in CA (have to be 25, i'm 23). i work 6 days & 2 nights a week rt now, so can't be w/o my car long at all. also, if for some reason they did say to replace the bumper instead of repainting, would i be able to put it on myself instead of having a shop take forever? the paint is scratched through to the plastic, plastic roughed up a little - look at the pics. hard to tell if this would be a touch-up job or not, because i know it's hard to get the body shops to match it perfectly at times, so wouldn't they have to repaint the whole bumper? thnx all.
ks
ks
| kenchan | 07-14-2003 12:06 PM |
to fix that bumper completely, they will have to replace it and paint it. its not cheap.
you can buy a bumper cover and have it painted and installed
yourself which isn't that hard to do... then you can drive
your car around with the damaged bumper until you pickup
the painted new bumper cover from your shop. :)
but again, if you ask some smaller shops to do a filler/paint,
it should only take about 3days to repair it. they will have
to still repaint the entire bumper. that gouge is much too
large to do a touch up.
you can buy a bumper cover and have it painted and installed
yourself which isn't that hard to do... then you can drive
your car around with the damaged bumper until you pickup
the painted new bumper cover from your shop. :)
but again, if you ask some smaller shops to do a filler/paint,
it should only take about 3days to repair it. they will have
to still repaint the entire bumper. that gouge is much too
large to do a touch up.
| revumbra | 07-14-2003 02:13 PM |
hmm
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I would say never do a touch up.
I am on my 3rd freaking bumper for having my car for less than a year.
First the dealer gouged the all living hell out of the first one (4 inch long and half an inch deep) and replaced the whole thing.
Second one was where I got rear-ended. The structural bumper inside was fine and there was only a minor crease with paint scratches. They fixed it and and repainted the entire thing. My scratches were about 1/20th of what you had and it had to be totally repainted to match. Creases they can fix, bends they can fix, gouges they really can't. If you are gouged, go for the new bumper cover. I saw them for 300+ from subaruparts.com and then you have painting.
I am on my 3rd freaking bumper for having my car for less than a year.
First the dealer gouged the all living hell out of the first one (4 inch long and half an inch deep) and replaced the whole thing.
Second one was where I got rear-ended. The structural bumper inside was fine and there was only a minor crease with paint scratches. They fixed it and and repainted the entire thing. My scratches were about 1/20th of what you had and it had to be totally repainted to match. Creases they can fix, bends they can fix, gouges they really can't. If you are gouged, go for the new bumper cover. I saw them for 300+ from subaruparts.com and then you have painting.
| FortyTwo | 07-14-2003 04:47 PM |
If the guyis going to jerk you and insult you by telling you the bumper has been repainted already, I wouldn't do him any favors. I also been involved in a deal like this, and never saw any money, so I'm also a bit skeptical. I hope your's turns out better.
| DDMan | 07-14-2003 05:15 PM |
Re: hmm
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by revumbra [/i]
[B]I would say never do a touch up.
I am on my 3rd freaking bumper for having my car for less than a year.
First the dealer gouged the all living hell out of the first one (4 inch long and half an inch deep) and replaced the whole thing.
Second one was where I got rear-ended. The structural bumper inside was fine and there was only a minor crease with paint scratches. They fixed it and and repainted the entire thing. My scratches were about 1/20th of what you had and it had to be totally repainted to match. Creases they can fix, bends they can fix, gouges they really can't. If you are gouged, go for the new bumper cover. I saw them for 300+ from subaruparts.com and then you have painting. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thats the exact same thing that happened to me. On the test drive, the salesman backed into a cement bench and put a fat scratch in the bumber...then I got rear-ended (just cosmetic damage). Now I need ANOTHER new bumper because I made my own little boo-boo (backed into a pole at very low speed...scratched up the corner pretty bad tho).
When I had the bumper replaced after getting rear-ended, it was at JUST AROUND 500$ for the new bumper and painting/blending.
[B]I would say never do a touch up.
I am on my 3rd freaking bumper for having my car for less than a year.
First the dealer gouged the all living hell out of the first one (4 inch long and half an inch deep) and replaced the whole thing.
Second one was where I got rear-ended. The structural bumper inside was fine and there was only a minor crease with paint scratches. They fixed it and and repainted the entire thing. My scratches were about 1/20th of what you had and it had to be totally repainted to match. Creases they can fix, bends they can fix, gouges they really can't. If you are gouged, go for the new bumper cover. I saw them for 300+ from subaruparts.com and then you have painting. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thats the exact same thing that happened to me. On the test drive, the salesman backed into a cement bench and put a fat scratch in the bumber...then I got rear-ended (just cosmetic damage). Now I need ANOTHER new bumper because I made my own little boo-boo (backed into a pole at very low speed...scratched up the corner pretty bad tho).
When I had the bumper replaced after getting rear-ended, it was at JUST AROUND 500$ for the new bumper and painting/blending.
| Kean | 07-14-2003 06:03 PM |
I would contact my insurance asap. This guy's story sounds a bit flaky. Don't take a chance on getting screwed. I'm just wondering how this guy can be in business 50 yrs and not be able to keep his car insurance up to date. The only thing I can see going wrong when you report it is that he changes his story. btw, do you have any witnesses?
| KSs2001RS | 07-15-2003 11:51 AM |
hey all,
thnx for all the replies. as to witnesses, don't have any rt now, but this happened just in front of a liquor store, and about 1 block away from 1 of my jobs, so i could probably find someone if needed i guess. called my insurance co rt after calling the guy to let him know i would be going through insurance. he was still acting like we didn't need to get insurance involved and insisted i tell my insurance co that he was willing to fix it, but i will be going to a body shop that my insurance co and a friend both recommended for at least an estimate (and probably to fix it) as soon as i get some time off work. will keep you all updated. thnx.
ks
thnx for all the replies. as to witnesses, don't have any rt now, but this happened just in front of a liquor store, and about 1 block away from 1 of my jobs, so i could probably find someone if needed i guess. called my insurance co rt after calling the guy to let him know i would be going through insurance. he was still acting like we didn't need to get insurance involved and insisted i tell my insurance co that he was willing to fix it, but i will be going to a body shop that my insurance co and a friend both recommended for at least an estimate (and probably to fix it) as soon as i get some time off work. will keep you all updated. thnx.
ks
| Kean | 07-15-2003 11:55 AM |
Good Luck KS. Hope it works out. Keep us posted.
Kean
Kean
| KSs2001RS | 07-15-2003 05:54 PM |
ok, here's an update....the guy showed up at my job today. apparently he went to my 1st job yesterday after i called him looking for me. and today he shows up and makes a scene in front of my customer and i had to tell him to leave. if he shows up again, thinking of calling police. what do you guys think?
ks
ks
| Kean | 07-15-2003 07:17 PM |
Definitely. Also, make sure you document all of this and keep your insurance company up to date. At least you have witnesses of his behavior.
| KSs2001RS | 07-17-2003 11:02 PM |
upgrading?
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hey all,
if my bumper needs to be replaced, what would be your suggestions for upgrading the bumper? any suggestions on style (keeping simple, but would like to go a little more aggressive) and links would be great. gonna head over to the body shop tomorrow.
ks
if my bumper needs to be replaced, what would be your suggestions for upgrading the bumper? any suggestions on style (keeping simple, but would like to go a little more aggressive) and links would be great. gonna head over to the body shop tomorrow.
ks
| KSs2001RS | 07-19-2003 12:49 AM |
ok, went to body shop and got estimate today. estimate to repaint entire bumper, take 3 days for approx $554. the guy there wasn't too comfortable w/ idea of upgrading bumper at same time and said it would take more time since the upgrade would need to be adjusted for fitting, etc. what do you guys think?
ks
ks
| kenchan | 07-19-2003 09:27 AM |
yah, unless its a factory bumper they do need to test fit and sometimes make special brakets, etc. so it would usually cost
more. some shops don't like to do anything outside OE specs
when dealing with insurance claims.
that quote you got is a real good deal. i wonder if they are
using a used bumper... (?)
dang, the guy that hit your car showedup and made ascene,
huh? yah, call the cops next time he shows up if he's not
trying to help the situation. you are the victim.
more. some shops don't like to do anything outside OE specs
when dealing with insurance claims.
that quote you got is a real good deal. i wonder if they are
using a used bumper... (?)
dang, the guy that hit your car showedup and made ascene,
huh? yah, call the cops next time he shows up if he's not
trying to help the situation. you are the victim.
| KSs2001RS | 07-19-2003 11:46 AM |
the estimate was w/ repainting my existing bumper, no new bumper. hate the idea of not having my car for 3 days too, but not sure how to get around that. i kinda like the look of a c-west front bumper, but not sure of $ situation til i get my next paycheck M. i was thinking it could be nice to upgrade at same time if i knew it would fit rt and just have them paint the new bumper, then have them swap bumpers when it was done. any suggestions? thnx.
ks
ks
| Sandkicker | 07-19-2003 01:42 PM |
that seems a little pricey (of course you're in SoCal and i'm in Utah)... i have a huge trailer-hitch hole in my front bumper and took it to a both a Subaru body shop and anothe rbody shop and their estimates were about $600 for a new bumper skin and to paint it. I think that was for like a replica part though, and another $70 for the official piece from subaru which is exactly the same.
My insurance deductible is $250 so i still haven't been in to get it fixed. I too was considering an aftermarket front bumper but they're soo expensive, then shipping, then paint and you're probably into it at LEAST $1000, and your insurance company won't pay for any of it. I think if you just tell your insurance company that it was a hit and run, they'll take care of it an all you'll have to do is pay the deductible.. that's what my company said.
Also... some kid scratched the crap out of my rear bumper while trying to park next to me a while back and he didn't want his insurance company to know about it so he just paid me cash. I think it was only like $300 to fix and it looked alot like what you've got there. It was sort of a couple deep scratches in a couple places... looks flawless now though.
My insurance deductible is $250 so i still haven't been in to get it fixed. I too was considering an aftermarket front bumper but they're soo expensive, then shipping, then paint and you're probably into it at LEAST $1000, and your insurance company won't pay for any of it. I think if you just tell your insurance company that it was a hit and run, they'll take care of it an all you'll have to do is pay the deductible.. that's what my company said.
Also... some kid scratched the crap out of my rear bumper while trying to park next to me a while back and he didn't want his insurance company to know about it so he just paid me cash. I think it was only like $300 to fix and it looked alot like what you've got there. It was sort of a couple deep scratches in a couple places... looks flawless now though.
| KSs2001RS | 07-25-2003 11:29 PM |
agggg. just got a letter from the guy's insurance stating they think i hit his car!!! i don't have any $ for a lawyer and my insurance agent is on vacation for 2 weeks (we didn't think they would conclude their "investigation" so fast), and saying because they have no way to verify either story, they will only pay 50%. what do you guys think i should do other than trying to find a witness??? help asap!!!
ks
ks
| KSs2001RS | 07-28-2003 08:59 PM |
bump - anyone have suggestions other than trying to find a witness?
ks
ks
| TraeWRX | 07-28-2003 09:23 PM |
Hey, Maybe an ad in the local paper, or some flyers outside the place where he hit you. Does the liquor store have a surveillance camera? So was his insurance expired or not... guess not since they're willing to pay half. You don't need a lawyer...your agent/insurance company should help you out. Cause if the other company only pays half...then your company will pay the rest. <shoulda called the cops, to at least get an accident report>
| Turbo X | 07-28-2003 10:43 PM |
You may fix it yourself if you don't wanna make a big deal out of it. Paintscratch.com has everything you need to do the job, the question is are you skillful enough to get it back the way it was, it takes time and you need to know what you doing. Just my opinion.
| quentinberg007 | 07-29-2003 12:38 AM |
i bought a bumper skin from a subaru dealer. $220
painting it shouldn't be over $500... that is a really high ball number. The installation of the bumper skin is cake! Seriously, it's like 15 bolts.
That $1200-1500 number is way out of the ball park.
~~Quentin
painting it shouldn't be over $500... that is a really high ball number. The installation of the bumper skin is cake! Seriously, it's like 15 bolts.
That $1200-1500 number is way out of the ball park.
~~Quentin
| KSs2001RS | 07-29-2003 01:29 AM |
well, called my insur co today and talked to another agent about what i should do. she said hang on to the check and try to find a witness if i can and they will help me out w/ fighting this guy so to speak, but i may get nailed w/ paying the deductible 1st. thinking of upgrading to a trial r front bumper and rear bumper since i was going to upgrade eventually, just wasn't planning on upgrading so soon. if i get that kit, i think i might be able to get one that's already fitted to a car so the bumpers would just need to be repainted to match my car. my insurance co and i think even his insur co believe it's his fault, but have no proof so his insur co is trying to split the difference, but i'm hoping i can find a witness to take care of that problem. either way, need several weeks to raise $, but will certainly take less time if i don't have to pay the deductible. any opinions on trial r kits?
ks
ks
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