| Counterfit | 01-28-2007 10:06 PM |
[QUOTE=Fox;16818908]I'm totally diggin' the pinstripe look on the nose of the RB3.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;16819811]I like how "Red Bull" bends follwing the side pods :)[/QUOTE]
I like the red/blue/white going into the pods and flowing "off the tire" on the rear endplates too.
[QUOTE=John__Gotti;16823870]But the driver picture makes DC's head look like a cube, lol. I know he has a very square jaw line but with him standing beside Webber and the angle just over exagerates it.[/QUOTE]
DC's head [i]is[/i] a cube.
[img]http://www.happyballs.com/Merchant4/imgs/balls/cartoons/large/gumby_antenna_topper_block_head.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;16819811]I like how "Red Bull" bends follwing the side pods :)[/QUOTE]
I like the red/blue/white going into the pods and flowing "off the tire" on the rear endplates too.
[QUOTE=John__Gotti;16823870]But the driver picture makes DC's head look like a cube, lol. I know he has a very square jaw line but with him standing beside Webber and the angle just over exagerates it.[/QUOTE]
DC's head [i]is[/i] a cube.
[img]http://www.happyballs.com/Merchant4/imgs/balls/cartoons/large/gumby_antenna_topper_block_head.jpg[/img]
| StuBeck | 01-28-2007 10:42 PM |
I just realized that if I'm going to England for spring break, rather than being a knob I should go to the factories if they're on the way. Anyone know if they have anything for me to look at rather than just a building? I know Williams has tours, and they actually have one on a day I'm there, but not at a useful time. I did a bit of a search but couldn't find anything.
| Wr4wrX | 01-29-2007 03:39 AM |
[IMG]http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/40922_2.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Jenson's interim helmet.[/B]
[B]Jenson's interim helmet.[/B]
| grandpa rex | 01-29-2007 06:25 AM |
DC = Spongebob Squarehead
| JoD | 01-29-2007 09:49 AM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16844024]I just realized that if I'm going to England for spring break, rather than being a knob I should go to the factories if they're on the way. Anyone know if they have anything for me to look at rather than just a building? I know Williams has tours, and they actually have one on a day I'm there, but not at a useful time. I did a bit of a search but couldn't find anything.[/QUOTE]
JUST a building??? Stu - I'm disappointed in you. :p
Go check out Paragon - designed by the famed British architect Sir Norman Foster. And take lots of pictures for me.
BTW - Gordon Elkins who you met at the race personally put his foot in the door with Ron Dennis and got Maharam wallcovering (which he used to represent) all throughout that facility. :D
JUST a building??? Stu - I'm disappointed in you. :p
Go check out Paragon - designed by the famed British architect Sir Norman Foster. And take lots of pictures for me.
BTW - Gordon Elkins who you met at the race personally put his foot in the door with Ron Dennis and got Maharam wallcovering (which he used to represent) all throughout that facility. :D
| StuBeck | 01-29-2007 02:38 PM |
Hehe, I really want to go to Paragon, I will see how it works on my trip, getting inside would be hot, but I doubt that is going to happen. If it isn't somewhere stupid where I have no chance of catching it, I will make it. It is actually on the way...but now I need to find wehre the heck it actually is!
| JoD | 01-29-2007 04:21 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16851559]Hehe, I really want to go to Paragon, I will see how it works on my trip, getting inside would be hot, but I doubt that is going to happen. If it isn't somewhere stupid where I have no chance of catching it, I will make it. It is actually on the way...but now I need to find wehre the heck it actually is![/QUOTE]
Woking, England
McLaren Technology Centre. And I misspoke. It's LORD Norman Foster.
oooooohhhhh aahhhhhhh
[URL="http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/"]http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/[/URL]
Woking, England
McLaren Technology Centre. And I misspoke. It's LORD Norman Foster.
oooooohhhhh aahhhhhhh
[URL="http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/"]http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/[/URL]
| StuBeck | 01-29-2007 04:41 PM |
I need the address though :) I've been looking on google maps, and I think those are REALLY old, because I can't see anything there. It looks like it should be just outside of London, so I can go on Sunday before I head out to a castle.
| dersubaru | 01-29-2007 08:18 PM |
cant wait for Melbourne :D
| schaklos | 01-29-2007 08:21 PM |
Interesting new design for RB3 and Newey:
From Autosport.com
[quote]Analysis: Newey surprises with twin keel
By Craig Scarborough Sunday, January 28th 2007, 21:26 GMT
For the first time in a decade, Adrian Newey has launched a car of his design for another team other than McLaren, and naturally, the new Red Bull Racing RB3 follows McLaren's design philosophies.
But rather surprisingly, Newey did not convert Red Bull's 2006 V-keel to a McLaren zero keel. Instead, the highly respect designer has resorted to an older and now rare solution as a method of working with the new type of Bridgestone tyre: the twin keel.
In fact, every other team that has already launched their car has opted for zero keel, while Renault continue with their V-keel. Of the rest of the teams yet to launch, all were running zero keel by the end of last season.
Newey adopted the twin keel feature in 2002 on the MP4-17. The twin-keel made its racing debut in Formula One the year before on the Sauber car, where it was introduced by designer Sergio Rinland.
The RB3, launched last Friday at Barcelona, has a somewhat different version: its lower wishbone is mounted to a keel structure that extends from the bottom of the chassis (marked in the illustration in yellow).
Yet the visual similarity to the MP4-17 continues with the keel extending downwards to form a turning vane.
Twin keels went out of fashion because of their structural complexity. The demand for a stiff chassis made twin keels unduly heavy, and most teams discarded them for single, V-shaped or zero keels.
The requirement to make the new front weight biased Bridgestones work, has seen Newey accept the weight penalty at the front of the car, while giving him more freedom with suspension geometry.
Elsewhere around the RB3 car, similarities to his designs at McLaren are more obvious: these are seen in the shape of the sidepods, the engine cover and snorkel. Other influences are seen in the rear wing, which follows on Renault's philosophy, and the mirrors appear to emulate Ferrari's design patterns.
Yet despite the apparent influences, the RB3 is clearly one of the neatest cars released this year and could well mark a significant step forward for Red Bull Racing. It all depends now on whether or not the car can perform as well as it looks.[/quote]
[img]http://www.autosport.com/images/upload/1170021517.jpg[/img]
The yellow wishbone is attached to the "twin" keel
From Autosport.com
[quote]Analysis: Newey surprises with twin keel
By Craig Scarborough Sunday, January 28th 2007, 21:26 GMT
For the first time in a decade, Adrian Newey has launched a car of his design for another team other than McLaren, and naturally, the new Red Bull Racing RB3 follows McLaren's design philosophies.
But rather surprisingly, Newey did not convert Red Bull's 2006 V-keel to a McLaren zero keel. Instead, the highly respect designer has resorted to an older and now rare solution as a method of working with the new type of Bridgestone tyre: the twin keel.
In fact, every other team that has already launched their car has opted for zero keel, while Renault continue with their V-keel. Of the rest of the teams yet to launch, all were running zero keel by the end of last season.
Newey adopted the twin keel feature in 2002 on the MP4-17. The twin-keel made its racing debut in Formula One the year before on the Sauber car, where it was introduced by designer Sergio Rinland.
The RB3, launched last Friday at Barcelona, has a somewhat different version: its lower wishbone is mounted to a keel structure that extends from the bottom of the chassis (marked in the illustration in yellow).
Yet the visual similarity to the MP4-17 continues with the keel extending downwards to form a turning vane.
Twin keels went out of fashion because of their structural complexity. The demand for a stiff chassis made twin keels unduly heavy, and most teams discarded them for single, V-shaped or zero keels.
The requirement to make the new front weight biased Bridgestones work, has seen Newey accept the weight penalty at the front of the car, while giving him more freedom with suspension geometry.
Elsewhere around the RB3 car, similarities to his designs at McLaren are more obvious: these are seen in the shape of the sidepods, the engine cover and snorkel. Other influences are seen in the rear wing, which follows on Renault's philosophy, and the mirrors appear to emulate Ferrari's design patterns.
Yet despite the apparent influences, the RB3 is clearly one of the neatest cars released this year and could well mark a significant step forward for Red Bull Racing. It all depends now on whether or not the car can perform as well as it looks.[/quote]
[img]http://www.autosport.com/images/upload/1170021517.jpg[/img]
The yellow wishbone is attached to the "twin" keel
| SBW | 01-29-2007 08:24 PM |
[QUOTE=JoD;16853197]Woking, England
McLaren Technology Centre. And I misspoke. It's LORD Norman Foster.
oooooohhhhh aahhhhhhh
[URL="http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/"]http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/[/URL][/QUOTE]
so I went to this website and tried to apply for the media centre...I guess since it's safe to say I dont have an accredited reference and I'm not media Im not getting a login.
McLaren Technology Centre. And I misspoke. It's LORD Norman Foster.
oooooohhhhh aahhhhhhh
[URL="http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/"]http://www.mclaren.com/technologycentre/[/URL][/QUOTE]
so I went to this website and tried to apply for the media centre...I guess since it's safe to say I dont have an accredited reference and I'm not media Im not getting a login.
| Ferg | 01-29-2007 10:05 PM |
[QUOTE=dersubaru;16856253]cant wait for Melbourne :D[/QUOTE]
Only 47 days to go :banana:
Only 47 days to go :banana:
| MattDell | 01-29-2007 11:34 PM |
Didn't know we were under 50 already! :banana:
F1 is the sole reason I am keeping my cable subscription.
F1 is the sole reason I am keeping my cable subscription.
| Ferg | 01-30-2007 12:16 PM |
Valencia...first big group test.
[QUOTE][B]Alonso sets the pace at Valencia
[/B]
Tuesday, January 30th 2007, 16:39 GMT
World champion Fernando Alonso fired a warning shot to his rivals after topping the times by nearly a second on the first day of testing at the Valencia circuit.
Nine teams, most of them using their new cars, took park in today's first session, which was hampered by poor weather, although all drivers managed to work in the dry during a part of the day.
Today was the first opportunity to see so many teams testing with their 2007 cars on the same track, and Alonso took the chance to boost his McLaren's team morale with a best time of 1:12.563 after 85 laps.
The Spanish driver was nearly a whole second quicker than the man he is replacing at McLaren, Kimi Raikkonen, who made his debut at the wheel of the new Ferrari F2007 and finished as fifth quickest.
Raikkonen worked alongside test driver Luca Badoer, who drove the old 248 F1 car. The Italian's day, however, was cut short after he suffered a mechanical problem around 3pm.
It was not Badoer's only incident of the day, as the Ferrari driver also spun off the track when trying to avoid Alonso as the Spaniard overtook down the inside.
Nelsinho Piquet was second quickest in the first of the Renaults, the French squad working with their new colours for the first time. Italian Giancarlo Fisichella drove the second R27 and finished as eighth fastest after a frustrating session.
"It was pretty frustrating today, waiting for the track conditions to improve," said Fisichella at the end of the day.
"We basically lost a day's work but that can happen at this time of year. We still have three days left though, and I am sure we can make some good progress during the rest of the week."
Apart from the rain, the day was hit by a total of 10 red flags. The session was extended by 10 minutes because of Alonso stopping near the end of the session with smoke coming from the back of his McLaren.
Toyota's new test driver Franck Montagny showed promising pace in the new TF107 car after finishing as third fastest. His teammate Jarno Trulli was sixth, behind Raikkonen and the first of the BMW-Saubers, driven by the team's third driver Sebastian Vettel.
Vettel's teammate Nick Heidfeld shook down the second F1.07 chassis.
Honda's Rubens Barrichello worked with the new RA107 car unveiled last week, but the Brazilian covered very limited mileage on his way to the ninth fastest time of the day. Briton James Rossiter took to the track in an hybrid car.
Williams' tester Kazuki Nakajima had a troubled day in the interim Toyota-powered car, the Japanese driver causing three red flags, two due to mechanical problems and one when he went off track in the afternoon.
Mark Webber was the only Red Bull driver at Valencia today, the Australian at the wheel of the new RB3. Webber completed just 27 laps and finished over three seconds off the pace.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.563 85
2. Piquet Renault (B) 1:13.549 27
3. Montagny Toyota (B) 1:13.672 33
4. Vettel BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.683 75
5. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:13.691 45
6. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:13.735 50
7. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.848 49
8. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:13.867 34
9. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:14.025 29
10. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:14.520 51 *
11. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:14.643 37 *
12. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:15.674 27 *
13. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:15.726 27
14. Badoer Ferrari (B) 1:16.334 35 *
* 2006/hybrid car
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Alonso sets the pace at Valencia
[/B]
Tuesday, January 30th 2007, 16:39 GMT
World champion Fernando Alonso fired a warning shot to his rivals after topping the times by nearly a second on the first day of testing at the Valencia circuit.
Nine teams, most of them using their new cars, took park in today's first session, which was hampered by poor weather, although all drivers managed to work in the dry during a part of the day.
Today was the first opportunity to see so many teams testing with their 2007 cars on the same track, and Alonso took the chance to boost his McLaren's team morale with a best time of 1:12.563 after 85 laps.
The Spanish driver was nearly a whole second quicker than the man he is replacing at McLaren, Kimi Raikkonen, who made his debut at the wheel of the new Ferrari F2007 and finished as fifth quickest.
Raikkonen worked alongside test driver Luca Badoer, who drove the old 248 F1 car. The Italian's day, however, was cut short after he suffered a mechanical problem around 3pm.
It was not Badoer's only incident of the day, as the Ferrari driver also spun off the track when trying to avoid Alonso as the Spaniard overtook down the inside.
Nelsinho Piquet was second quickest in the first of the Renaults, the French squad working with their new colours for the first time. Italian Giancarlo Fisichella drove the second R27 and finished as eighth fastest after a frustrating session.
"It was pretty frustrating today, waiting for the track conditions to improve," said Fisichella at the end of the day.
"We basically lost a day's work but that can happen at this time of year. We still have three days left though, and I am sure we can make some good progress during the rest of the week."
Apart from the rain, the day was hit by a total of 10 red flags. The session was extended by 10 minutes because of Alonso stopping near the end of the session with smoke coming from the back of his McLaren.
Toyota's new test driver Franck Montagny showed promising pace in the new TF107 car after finishing as third fastest. His teammate Jarno Trulli was sixth, behind Raikkonen and the first of the BMW-Saubers, driven by the team's third driver Sebastian Vettel.
Vettel's teammate Nick Heidfeld shook down the second F1.07 chassis.
Honda's Rubens Barrichello worked with the new RA107 car unveiled last week, but the Brazilian covered very limited mileage on his way to the ninth fastest time of the day. Briton James Rossiter took to the track in an hybrid car.
Williams' tester Kazuki Nakajima had a troubled day in the interim Toyota-powered car, the Japanese driver causing three red flags, two due to mechanical problems and one when he went off track in the afternoon.
Mark Webber was the only Red Bull driver at Valencia today, the Australian at the wheel of the new RB3. Webber completed just 27 laps and finished over three seconds off the pace.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.563 85
2. Piquet Renault (B) 1:13.549 27
3. Montagny Toyota (B) 1:13.672 33
4. Vettel BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.683 75
5. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:13.691 45
6. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:13.735 50
7. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.848 49
8. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:13.867 34
9. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:14.025 29
10. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:14.520 51 *
11. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:14.643 37 *
12. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:15.674 27 *
13. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:15.726 27
14. Badoer Ferrari (B) 1:16.334 35 *
* 2006/hybrid car
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
| StuBeck | 01-30-2007 01:02 PM |
Webbes time is making me nervous :(
| bitterWRX | 01-30-2007 01:28 PM |
Smoke coming out of the back of that McLaren is making me nervous :(
| Ferg | 01-30-2007 01:54 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16864529]Webbes time is making me nervous :([/QUOTE]
If he's still three seconds off the pace by the end of the test you can be worried.
It's still very early days with the RB3, have some faith :lol:
If he's still three seconds off the pace by the end of the test you can be worried.
It's still very early days with the RB3, have some faith :lol:
| StuBeck | 01-30-2007 02:08 PM |
Its more 8 years of following Jag/Red Bull...they always start like this, I say that...then they're still slow. Hopefully he just ran that time when it was raining.
| John__Gotti | 01-30-2007 04:27 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX;16864968]Smoke coming out of the back of that McLaren is making me nervous :([/QUOTE]
Mercedes doesn't have the greatest track record from the last few years. Still very promising that Alonso has already set fast pace of testing. This might be a good turn around year for McLaren will just have to wait and see.
Mercedes doesn't have the greatest track record from the last few years. Still very promising that Alonso has already set fast pace of testing. This might be a good turn around year for McLaren will just have to wait and see.
| sirfrankwilliams | 01-30-2007 04:40 PM |
^ To me it seems like more of the same- just with different drivers. Kimi was the fastest a lot of times over the past few years but kept 'done blowing up (or otherwise breaking). :(
| KAX | 01-30-2007 06:08 PM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti;16867597]Mercedes doesn't have the greatest track record from the last few years. Still very promising that Alonso has already set fast pace of testing. This might be a good turn around year for McLaren will just have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]
it looks to be a repeat of 2005. However, if they are fast straight out of the box, then they will accrue more points at the beginning of the year, rather then letting someone storm away for the first few races and play catch up the rest of the way.
it looks to be a repeat of 2005. However, if they are fast straight out of the box, then they will accrue more points at the beginning of the year, rather then letting someone storm away for the first few races and play catch up the rest of the way.
| MattDell | 01-30-2007 08:44 PM |
Anyone buy their USGP tickets yet? Best I can find is Section J Row M.
I was in Section C, Row M last year and it sucked. It was down too far and you couldn't really see over the fence. Think Row M in Section J would be better?
-Matt
I was in Section C, Row M last year and it sucked. It was down too far and you couldn't really see over the fence. Think Row M in Section J would be better?
-Matt
| artkevin | 01-30-2007 09:31 PM |
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;16867772]^ To me it seems like more of the same- just with different drivers. Kimi was the fastest a lot of times over the past few years but kept 'done blowing up (or otherwise breaking). :([/QUOTE]
Read a write up by Peter Widsor from last month's F1 Racing mag and he brought up an intresting point. His point was that McLaren and some other teams sometimes over protect their drivers from outside eyes. There is evidence that at one race that Kimi was winning handily (Imola I think) a drive shaft broke and it looked like the team's fault. In reality they told Kimi to do no more the 3(again, I think) pratice starts before the race. He did more and over stressed the part.
Just thought that was an intresting and little talked about tid-bit.
Read a write up by Peter Widsor from last month's F1 Racing mag and he brought up an intresting point. His point was that McLaren and some other teams sometimes over protect their drivers from outside eyes. There is evidence that at one race that Kimi was winning handily (Imola I think) a drive shaft broke and it looked like the team's fault. In reality they told Kimi to do no more the 3(again, I think) pratice starts before the race. He did more and over stressed the part.
Just thought that was an intresting and little talked about tid-bit.
| sirfrankwilliams | 01-30-2007 09:48 PM |
[quote=artkevin;16871720]they told Kimi to do no more the 3(again, I think) pratice starts before the race. He did more and over stressed the part.[/quote]
Good point, Kimi does play rough with his toys.
[IMG]http://gallery.mspb-bilddatenbank.de/photos/74/med_096_Kimi_Crash.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=1]this may or may not have been the result driver error, it just looked like a good picture for this subject.[/SIZE]
Good point, Kimi does play rough with his toys.
[IMG]http://gallery.mspb-bilddatenbank.de/photos/74/med_096_Kimi_Crash.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=1]this may or may not have been the result driver error, it just looked like a good picture for this subject.[/SIZE]
| westcle | 01-30-2007 10:05 PM |
[quote=MattDell;16871183]Anyone buy their USGP tickets yet? Best I can find is Section J Row M.
I was in Section C, Row M last year and it sucked. It was down too far and you couldn't really see over the fence. Think Row M in Section J would be better?
-Matt[/quote]
Come say Hello. I will be in S07 Stand J Row Q. I was in the same row last year and the seats are great. We got to see all(only) action as Heidfield's BMW flipped. Row M is below the fence line but it isn't too bad.
I'm not sure if I am more excited about this USGP or the other one I am going to in July :banana:
I was in Section C, Row M last year and it sucked. It was down too far and you couldn't really see over the fence. Think Row M in Section J would be better?
-Matt[/quote]
Come say Hello. I will be in S07 Stand J Row Q. I was in the same row last year and the seats are great. We got to see all(only) action as Heidfield's BMW flipped. Row M is below the fence line but it isn't too bad.
I'm not sure if I am more excited about this USGP or the other one I am going to in July :banana:
| nick735 | 01-30-2007 10:10 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX;16864968]Smoke coming out of the back of that McLaren is making me nervous :([/QUOTE]
Smoke coming from the back of the Mclaren makes me happy.:banana: Good riddens Mclaren.:D
Smoke coming from the back of the Mclaren makes me happy.:banana: Good riddens Mclaren.:D
| jpsimon | 01-30-2007 10:14 PM |
hahaha i love it :banana: :banana: HAVE FUN WITH THAT ALONSO! :lol: :banana: :banana:
[QUOTE=bitterWRX;16864968]Smoke coming out of the back of that McLaren is making me nervous :([/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bitterWRX;16864968]Smoke coming out of the back of that McLaren is making me nervous :([/QUOTE]
| KAX | 01-31-2007 12:03 AM |
Im suprised no ones said anything about this. . .
[QUOTE][b]FIA wants to make teams reveal tyre choice[/b]
Formula One teams will be forced to go public with their tyre choice for races this year if a plan by the FIA is successful.
Autosport magazine reports that FIA technical delegate Charlie Whiting is due to put forward a proposal that should allow the public and the media to gain an insight into team's strategy for races.
He wants teams to publish their initial tyre choice for a Grand Prix once the event is actually underway, which will clear up the type of rubber that different drivers are on.
Drivers have to run both type of available tyre compounds in the races this year in a move that could throw up varying strategies as teams opt for different periods of the race to run hard and soft rubber.
However, a plan to adopt a red-painted sidewall for the soft tyres to allow easy differentiation of which compound the drivers were using fell through because teams did not want their strategies to be made public.
The failure of the red-tyre rule left the possibility of the public being left in the dark about tyre strategy - wasting a great opportunity for the sport to bring itself closer to the public.
Whiting looks set to react to that situation by demanding that teams be forced to reveal their initial tyre choice once the event is underway � as happens in MotoGP when each rider's tyre choice is published after the start.
This brings a greater understanding of strategy for the public without letting rival teams know of tyre choices before the start of the event.
Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner has backed the idea of teams being asked to submit their tyre options once the race is underway.
"The more you can interact with the man in the grandstand and the television viewer, the more interesting it is," he told autosport.com. "Anything like that, be it driver communications or pit crew talk, I think is good for the sport.
"It will add to the spectacle and if it gives the spectator a third dimension then why not?"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][b]FIA wants to make teams reveal tyre choice[/b]
Formula One teams will be forced to go public with their tyre choice for races this year if a plan by the FIA is successful.
Autosport magazine reports that FIA technical delegate Charlie Whiting is due to put forward a proposal that should allow the public and the media to gain an insight into team's strategy for races.
He wants teams to publish their initial tyre choice for a Grand Prix once the event is actually underway, which will clear up the type of rubber that different drivers are on.
Drivers have to run both type of available tyre compounds in the races this year in a move that could throw up varying strategies as teams opt for different periods of the race to run hard and soft rubber.
However, a plan to adopt a red-painted sidewall for the soft tyres to allow easy differentiation of which compound the drivers were using fell through because teams did not want their strategies to be made public.
The failure of the red-tyre rule left the possibility of the public being left in the dark about tyre strategy - wasting a great opportunity for the sport to bring itself closer to the public.
Whiting looks set to react to that situation by demanding that teams be forced to reveal their initial tyre choice once the event is underway � as happens in MotoGP when each rider's tyre choice is published after the start.
This brings a greater understanding of strategy for the public without letting rival teams know of tyre choices before the start of the event.
Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner has backed the idea of teams being asked to submit their tyre options once the race is underway.
"The more you can interact with the man in the grandstand and the television viewer, the more interesting it is," he told autosport.com. "Anything like that, be it driver communications or pit crew talk, I think is good for the sport.
"It will add to the spectacle and if it gives the spectator a third dimension then why not?"[/QUOTE]
| f1vlad | 01-31-2007 08:22 AM |
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2-nhAmywZ0&eurl=[/url]
| meebs | 01-31-2007 09:21 AM |
[QUOTE=f1vlad;16875523][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2-nhAmywZ0&eurl=[/url][/QUOTE]
So it isn't Kimi who's filling Schumi's shoes after all! :lol:
So it isn't Kimi who's filling Schumi's shoes after all! :lol:
| grippgoat | 01-31-2007 10:45 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16871720]Read a write up by Peter Widsor from last month's F1 Racing mag and he brought up an intresting point. His point was that McLaren and some other teams sometimes over protect their drivers from outside eyes. There is evidence that at one race that Kimi was winning handily (Imola I think) a drive shaft broke and it looked like the team's fault. In reality they told Kimi to do no more the 3(again, I think) pratice starts before the race. He did more and over stressed the part.
Just thought that was an intresting and little talked about tid-bit.[/QUOTE]
Who the hell builds a driveshaft that can only take 3 practice starts?
Especially if they're then going to leave it up to the driver to respect that limitation.
-Mike
Just thought that was an intresting and little talked about tid-bit.[/QUOTE]
Who the hell builds a driveshaft that can only take 3 practice starts?
Especially if they're then going to leave it up to the driver to respect that limitation.
-Mike
| Ferg | 01-31-2007 11:28 AM |
Valencia, day two...
[QUOTE][B]Alonso stays on top at Valencia
[/B]
McLaren driver Fernando Alonso continued to show his strong form in pre-season testing by topping the times for the second day in a row at Valencia.
The two-time world champion, driving the new Mercedes-powered MP4-22, was over a tenth of a second slower than yesterday, but still managed to emerge on top of the times after 84 laps.
McLaren had two cars running today after only Alonso was in action yesterday. The Spaniard was joined by compatriot Pedro de la Rosa, who drove the second MP4-22 chassis after the team repaired it following Lewis Hamilton's crash last week.
World champions Renault finished close behind Alonso, although both Giancarlo Fisichella and Heikki Kovalainen completed limited running during the day.
Between the two, they covered less laps than Alonso, with Fisichella causing one of three red flags of the day when his engine blew up around 3pm.
Kimi Raikkonen, in the Ferrari F2007, was fourth quickest as he continued his acclimation to the Italian cars.
The Finn was joined by teammate Felipe Massa, the Brazilian taking to the track in last year's 248 F1 car. Massa forced the session to be stopped in the afternoon when he spun off the wet track.
The circuit started out dry after yesterday's rain, and it dried out throughout the morning, only for another short shower to hinder the test again around 3pm. Nearly 10,000 spectators attended the event today.
The final red flag of the day was caused by BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld, who stopped on track with one hour of the session remaining. Despite that, the German, joined today by teammate Robert Kubica, posted a promising fifth fastest time in the F1.07 car.
Toyota continued with the development of the new TF107, which began its first testing session yesterday. Italian Jarno Trulli was sixth fastest while teammate Ralf Schumacher, taking over from test driver Franck Montagny, got his first taste of the new car, covering 31 laps.
Honda's Rubens Barrichello was again the man in charge of testing duties at the wheel of the new RA107, with Briton James Rossiter driving the interim car. Barrichello enjoyed a more productive day than yesterday, completing 72 laps but finishing over a second behind Alonso.
Kazuki Nakajima was the busiest man of the day by quite some margin after covering 116 laps of the Spanish track in the interim Williams, powered by a Toyota engine.
Takuma Sato and Guido van de Garde were in action for the Super Aguri team, the Dutchman making his debut since being announced as the Japanese squad's third driver.
Van de Garde, however, managed just four laps and finished at the bottom of the times.
Red Bull's new RB3 car had another unimpressive day, with David Coulthard covering only 26 laps and finishing over three seconds off the pace.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.682 84
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:12.737 37
3. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:12.770 43
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.869 51
5. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.012 48
6. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:13.297 46
7. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.310 42
8. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:13.574 78 *
9. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.690 72
10. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:13.732 28 *
11. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:13.839 31
12. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:14.286 46
13. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:14.401 116
14. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:14.812 36 *
15. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:15.939 26
16. van de Garde Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:26.348 4 *
* Old/interim car
All Timing Unofficial
[/QUOTE]
[i]okay maybe you should start worrying Stu...[/i]
[QUOTE][B]Alonso stays on top at Valencia
[/B]
McLaren driver Fernando Alonso continued to show his strong form in pre-season testing by topping the times for the second day in a row at Valencia.
The two-time world champion, driving the new Mercedes-powered MP4-22, was over a tenth of a second slower than yesterday, but still managed to emerge on top of the times after 84 laps.
McLaren had two cars running today after only Alonso was in action yesterday. The Spaniard was joined by compatriot Pedro de la Rosa, who drove the second MP4-22 chassis after the team repaired it following Lewis Hamilton's crash last week.
World champions Renault finished close behind Alonso, although both Giancarlo Fisichella and Heikki Kovalainen completed limited running during the day.
Between the two, they covered less laps than Alonso, with Fisichella causing one of three red flags of the day when his engine blew up around 3pm.
Kimi Raikkonen, in the Ferrari F2007, was fourth quickest as he continued his acclimation to the Italian cars.
The Finn was joined by teammate Felipe Massa, the Brazilian taking to the track in last year's 248 F1 car. Massa forced the session to be stopped in the afternoon when he spun off the wet track.
The circuit started out dry after yesterday's rain, and it dried out throughout the morning, only for another short shower to hinder the test again around 3pm. Nearly 10,000 spectators attended the event today.
The final red flag of the day was caused by BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld, who stopped on track with one hour of the session remaining. Despite that, the German, joined today by teammate Robert Kubica, posted a promising fifth fastest time in the F1.07 car.
Toyota continued with the development of the new TF107, which began its first testing session yesterday. Italian Jarno Trulli was sixth fastest while teammate Ralf Schumacher, taking over from test driver Franck Montagny, got his first taste of the new car, covering 31 laps.
Honda's Rubens Barrichello was again the man in charge of testing duties at the wheel of the new RA107, with Briton James Rossiter driving the interim car. Barrichello enjoyed a more productive day than yesterday, completing 72 laps but finishing over a second behind Alonso.
Kazuki Nakajima was the busiest man of the day by quite some margin after covering 116 laps of the Spanish track in the interim Williams, powered by a Toyota engine.
Takuma Sato and Guido van de Garde were in action for the Super Aguri team, the Dutchman making his debut since being announced as the Japanese squad's third driver.
Van de Garde, however, managed just four laps and finished at the bottom of the times.
Red Bull's new RB3 car had another unimpressive day, with David Coulthard covering only 26 laps and finishing over three seconds off the pace.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.682 84
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:12.737 37
3. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:12.770 43
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.869 51
5. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.012 48
6. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:13.297 46
7. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:13.310 42
8. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:13.574 78 *
9. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.690 72
10. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:13.732 28 *
11. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:13.839 31
12. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:14.286 46
13. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:14.401 116
14. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:14.812 36 *
15. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:15.939 26
16. van de Garde Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:26.348 4 *
* Old/interim car
All Timing Unofficial
[/QUOTE]
[i]okay maybe you should start worrying Stu...[/i]
| Ferg | 01-31-2007 12:16 PM |
Meanwhile, Kimi could care less....
[QUOTE][B]Raikkonen not worried about Alonso's pace
[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Wednesday, January 31st 2007, 17:12 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen has said that he is not worried at all about rival Fernando Alonso's strong start to winter testing at Valencia in Spain this week.
Alonso has been fastest on both of the two days of testing so far - quickest by one second on Monday and then topping the times by just a few hundredths today.
But although Raikkonen has not proved a match in terms of out-and-out pace for Alonso, he insists he is not concerned at all � and says he is not really paying any attention to what his rivals are up to anyway.
Instead, he is confident that the true pace of the Ferrari F2007 has not yet been shown because of the limited amount of meaningful mileage he has been able to complete.
"I have not looked at what everyone else is doing and what teams are running," he said after testing at Valencia in Spain finished today. "So we are just doing our own thing.
"We will see where we are at some point, it is just too early to say. You see what times they are doing, but it is still hard to tell."
The damp start to the day's testing in Valencia left Raikkonen frustrated, and he says he is keen to get a clear day of running.
"It is not ideal, but this is what it is. We cannot change it. It has been very difficult and very tricky. Hopefully it gets better at some point and we get some proper work done."
When asked where he thought Ferrari were in comparison with their rivals he said: "I had only one set of tyres, so it is too early to say. I don't know what the others are doing. I just need more running and some time in the car to set it up."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Raikkonen not worried about Alonso's pace
[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Wednesday, January 31st 2007, 17:12 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen has said that he is not worried at all about rival Fernando Alonso's strong start to winter testing at Valencia in Spain this week.
Alonso has been fastest on both of the two days of testing so far - quickest by one second on Monday and then topping the times by just a few hundredths today.
But although Raikkonen has not proved a match in terms of out-and-out pace for Alonso, he insists he is not concerned at all � and says he is not really paying any attention to what his rivals are up to anyway.
Instead, he is confident that the true pace of the Ferrari F2007 has not yet been shown because of the limited amount of meaningful mileage he has been able to complete.
"I have not looked at what everyone else is doing and what teams are running," he said after testing at Valencia in Spain finished today. "So we are just doing our own thing.
"We will see where we are at some point, it is just too early to say. You see what times they are doing, but it is still hard to tell."
The damp start to the day's testing in Valencia left Raikkonen frustrated, and he says he is keen to get a clear day of running.
"It is not ideal, but this is what it is. We cannot change it. It has been very difficult and very tricky. Hopefully it gets better at some point and we get some proper work done."
When asked where he thought Ferrari were in comparison with their rivals he said: "I had only one set of tyres, so it is too early to say. I don't know what the others are doing. I just need more running and some time in the car to set it up."[/QUOTE]
| MattDell | 01-31-2007 12:52 PM |
[QUOTE=westcle;16872145]Come say Hello. I will be in S07 Stand J Row Q. I was in the same row last year and the seats are great. We got to see all(only) action as Heidfield's BMW flipped. Row M is below the fence line but it isn't too bad.
I'm not sure if I am more excited about this USGP or the other one I am going to in July :banana:[/QUOTE]
Hmm... to purchase them now or buy scalped later. I really want good seats this year because Section C blew last year.
-Matt
I'm not sure if I am more excited about this USGP or the other one I am going to in July :banana:[/QUOTE]
Hmm... to purchase them now or buy scalped later. I really want good seats this year because Section C blew last year.
-Matt
| jpsimon | 01-31-2007 01:33 PM |
buy good seats now
| MattDell | 01-31-2007 01:41 PM |
Looks like I'm in Section J S13 Row M. :cool:
| f1vlad | 01-31-2007 02:31 PM |
I prefer general admission rather than seats.
| StuBeck | 01-31-2007 02:44 PM |
[QUOTE=grippgoat;16877017]Who the hell builds a driveshaft that can only take 3 practice starts?
Especially if they're then going to leave it up to the driver to respect that limitation.
-Mike[/QUOTE]
The F1 teams. They aren't kidding when they say everything is meant to only last the length of the race and nothing more.
Especially if they're then going to leave it up to the driver to respect that limitation.
-Mike[/QUOTE]
The F1 teams. They aren't kidding when they say everything is meant to only last the length of the race and nothing more.
| StuBeck | 01-31-2007 02:44 PM |
I haven't bought tickets for this year, I need to talk with Kevin and Jody about where they are buying tickets.
| jpsimon | 01-31-2007 05:44 PM |
:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:
[QUOTE=f1vlad;16880606]I prefer general admission rather than seats.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=f1vlad;16880606]I prefer general admission rather than seats.[/QUOTE]
| TimStevens | 01-31-2007 06:14 PM |
[QUOTE=grippgoat;16877017]Who the hell builds a driveshaft that can only take 3 practice starts?
Especially if they're then going to leave it up to the driver to respect that limitation.
-Mike[/QUOTE]
Someone who wants to save every iota of weight from anything unsprung.
Especially if they're then going to leave it up to the driver to respect that limitation.
-Mike[/QUOTE]
Someone who wants to save every iota of weight from anything unsprung.
| TimStevens | 01-31-2007 06:16 PM |
[QUOTE=jpsimon;16883588]:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:[/QUOTE]
In some ways I'd agree. When I was there a few years ago I had a lot more fun wandering around the track and getting close to the cars on the days before the race than sitting up and having a nice view but still really having no idea of what's going on during the race itself.
In some ways I'd agree. When I was there a few years ago I had a lot more fun wandering around the track and getting close to the cars on the days before the race than sitting up and having a nice view but still really having no idea of what's going on during the race itself.
| jpsimon | 01-31-2007 06:21 PM |
I'm not quite sure which track you guys are talking about, but you can wander all you want in montreal... and when its time for the race just go sit down at your good seats, as we do each year... I will never get general admission!
| artkevin | 01-31-2007 09:28 PM |
We're talking about Indy.
I love sitting anywhere around turn 1, NW Vista is my usual.
I love sitting anywhere around turn 1, NW Vista is my usual.
| nick735 | 02-01-2007 12:29 AM |
[QUOTE=jpsimon;16884099]I'm not quite sure which track you guys are talking about, but you can wander all you want in montreal... and when its time for the race just go sit down at your good seats, as we do each year... I will never get general admission![/QUOTE]
JPS they are registering low on the bsp, ssr, and ydr points. Sitting in general admission with the "common" folk is just not baller enough for me. :disco:
JPS they are registering low on the bsp, ssr, and ydr points. Sitting in general admission with the "common" folk is just not baller enough for me. :disco:
| jpsimon | 02-01-2007 12:30 AM |
agreed no bsp, ssr, or ydr.
| nick735 | 02-01-2007 12:31 AM |
[QUOTE=jpsimon;16888151]agreed no bsp, ssr, or ydr.[/QUOTE]
Def not. Oh yea i forgot to mention, lets hope for slight BD for alonso in 07 :banana:
Def not. Oh yea i forgot to mention, lets hope for slight BD for alonso in 07 :banana:
| jpsimon | 02-01-2007 12:32 AM |
slight BD, + .1 a lap. not enough for anyone to realllly notice
| Wr4wrX | 02-01-2007 01:24 AM |
[IMG]http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2007jantest2/image/XPB_04TZ1TT0JDGJ9C0K8JX1C-2[/IMG]
There's the AT&T branding!
Check out the website before the car launch. It's quite informative and pretty fun.
[url]www.attwilliams.com[/url]
There's the AT&T branding!
Check out the website before the car launch. It's quite informative and pretty fun.
[url]www.attwilliams.com[/url]
| artkevin | 02-01-2007 01:35 AM |
I didn't know it was going to be called "AT&T Williams". Thought it would be the other way around since the money is not that big for F1 standards. I think 20-30 mil a year.
Anyone know where in the world Wurz has been? I haven't seen anything about him since about November.
Anyone know where in the world Wurz has been? I haven't seen anything about him since about November.
| KAX | 02-01-2007 01:49 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16888683]I didn't know it was going to be called "AT&T Williams". Thought it would be the other way around since the money is not that big for F1 standards. I think 20-30 mil a year.[/QUOTE]
Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
Panasonic Toyota Racing
ING Renault F1
really Ferrari is the only one that does the title sponsor after the name. everyone else is just so and so racing.
Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
Panasonic Toyota Racing
ING Renault F1
really Ferrari is the only one that does the title sponsor after the name. everyone else is just so and so racing.
| artkevin | 02-01-2007 01:54 AM |
Good point.
| StuBeck | 02-01-2007 07:55 AM |
I think part of the reason they might get branding of the team name is just because they are paying so much money yet getting no where on the car.
| f1vlad | 02-01-2007 09:01 AM |
[quote=TimStevens;16884030]In some ways I'd agree. When I was there a few years ago I had a lot more fun wandering around the track and getting close to the cars on the days before the race than sitting up and having a nice view but still really having no idea of what's going on during the race itself.[/quote]
Bring small radio with you, I don't remember what frequency, but it's not hard to find, once there. It's some FM Station, it tells you all about what's going on at any given moment. Best is to have headphones.
And I got seated tickets few times, and other times I got general admission. I loved latter choice because it lets me sit wherever I want (just bring my own camping chair). Usually I love to sit around turn 8--10 or turn 3--4.
Bring small radio with you, I don't remember what frequency, but it's not hard to find, once there. It's some FM Station, it tells you all about what's going on at any given moment. Best is to have headphones.
And I got seated tickets few times, and other times I got general admission. I loved latter choice because it lets me sit wherever I want (just bring my own camping chair). Usually I love to sit around turn 8--10 or turn 3--4.
| TimStevens | 02-01-2007 09:06 AM |
[QUOTE=f1vlad;16890362]Bring small radio with you, I don't remember what frequency, but it's not hard to find, once there. It's some FM Station, it tells you all about what's going on at any given moment. Best is to have headphones.
And I got seated tickets few times, and other times I got general admission. I loved latter choice because it lets me sit wherever I want (just bring my own camping chair). Usually I love to sit around turn 8--10 or turn 3--4.[/QUOTE]
We did that, but for some reason couldn't get that frequency to tune on any of the days we were there. Our radio just had static for that one, though we could pull in other stuff. Very frustrating.
And I got seated tickets few times, and other times I got general admission. I loved latter choice because it lets me sit wherever I want (just bring my own camping chair). Usually I love to sit around turn 8--10 or turn 3--4.[/QUOTE]
We did that, but for some reason couldn't get that frequency to tune on any of the days we were there. Our radio just had static for that one, though we could pull in other stuff. Very frustrating.
| f1vlad | 02-01-2007 10:07 AM |
[quote=TimStevens;16890403]We did that, but for some reason couldn't get that frequency to tune on any of the days we were there. Our radio just had static for that one, though we could pull in other stuff. Very frustrating.[/quote]
That sucks, I went last four years in a row and used same cheap small sports radio, worked perfectly.
That sucks, I went last four years in a row and used same cheap small sports radio, worked perfectly.
| KAX | 02-01-2007 10:42 AM |
man, i wish i came on here before i went to Indy in 05. so many things i wish I had done while I was there.
| Ferg | 02-01-2007 11:28 AM |
Ralf....what now?
[QUOTE][B]Ralf goes fastest at Valencia
[/B]
Thursday, February 1st 2007, 16:18 GMT
Ralf Schumacher gave his Toyota team a morale boost ahead of the start of the 2007 season after going quickest on the third day of testing at the Valencia circuit.
The German driver, who made his debut at the wheel of the new TF107 car yesterday, posted the fastest time of the week so car, beating Fernando Alonso's benchmark from Tuesday by over a whole second.
The world champion finished down in fourth position today in the McLaren MP4-22.
Schumacher was over three tenths faster than Italian Giancarlo Fisichella in the first of the Renaults, on a day where the teams were finally able to work in sunny and dry conditions throughout the whole session.
Fisichella's teammate Giancarlo Fisichella was third fastest as the French squad covered well over 200 laps between their two drivers.
Alonso himself covered nearly 100 laps as he continued with the development work in the new Mercedes-powered car. The Spaniard, fastest on the first two days, worked again alongside test driver Pedro de la Rosa, who will be joined tomorrow by Lewis Hamilton, returning to work after his crash last week.
Kimi Raikkonen was sixth quickest in the Ferrari F2007, the Finn covering 66 laps. Raikkonen caused one of the red flags of the day when he stopped on track with an apparent engine problem.
The dry weather finally allowed the teams and drivers to get on with some serious set-up work, and also meant Bridgestone could continue evaluation of their latest rubber.
In the morning, BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld became the first driver to try out the third compound of Bridgestone tyres that will be used this season.
It is the softest that has been run so far, and by the late afternoon almost all the runners had begun experimenting with it. It is thought that only Alonso remained on the harder compound available.
Jenson Button took over from teammate Rubens Barrichello behind the wheel of the new Honda RA107.
The Japanese squad continued off the top of the times, with Button finishing over a second off Schumacher's pace, and causing one of the red flags of the day.
The Red Bull Racing team also had another low-key session, with Briton David Coulthard finishing down as 12th fastest behind compatriot Anthony Davidson in the only Super Aguri on track.
Coulthard's teammate Mark Webber shook down the second RB3 chassis, which arrived last night at Valencia.
Williams' Kazuki Nakajima finished at the bottom of the times after another troubled day, the Japanese causing two red flags.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:11.297 60
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:11.621 121
3. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:11.643 108
4. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:11.710 95
5. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:11.989 99
6. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.360 66
7. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.361 69
8. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.418 98
9. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:12.857 20
10. Button Honda (B) 1:12.976 77
11. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:13.143 133
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.450 59
13. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:13.728 03
14. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.796 23
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.945 82
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Ralf goes fastest at Valencia
[/B]
Thursday, February 1st 2007, 16:18 GMT
Ralf Schumacher gave his Toyota team a morale boost ahead of the start of the 2007 season after going quickest on the third day of testing at the Valencia circuit.
The German driver, who made his debut at the wheel of the new TF107 car yesterday, posted the fastest time of the week so car, beating Fernando Alonso's benchmark from Tuesday by over a whole second.
The world champion finished down in fourth position today in the McLaren MP4-22.
Schumacher was over three tenths faster than Italian Giancarlo Fisichella in the first of the Renaults, on a day where the teams were finally able to work in sunny and dry conditions throughout the whole session.
Fisichella's teammate Giancarlo Fisichella was third fastest as the French squad covered well over 200 laps between their two drivers.
Alonso himself covered nearly 100 laps as he continued with the development work in the new Mercedes-powered car. The Spaniard, fastest on the first two days, worked again alongside test driver Pedro de la Rosa, who will be joined tomorrow by Lewis Hamilton, returning to work after his crash last week.
Kimi Raikkonen was sixth quickest in the Ferrari F2007, the Finn covering 66 laps. Raikkonen caused one of the red flags of the day when he stopped on track with an apparent engine problem.
The dry weather finally allowed the teams and drivers to get on with some serious set-up work, and also meant Bridgestone could continue evaluation of their latest rubber.
In the morning, BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld became the first driver to try out the third compound of Bridgestone tyres that will be used this season.
It is the softest that has been run so far, and by the late afternoon almost all the runners had begun experimenting with it. It is thought that only Alonso remained on the harder compound available.
Jenson Button took over from teammate Rubens Barrichello behind the wheel of the new Honda RA107.
The Japanese squad continued off the top of the times, with Button finishing over a second off Schumacher's pace, and causing one of the red flags of the day.
The Red Bull Racing team also had another low-key session, with Briton David Coulthard finishing down as 12th fastest behind compatriot Anthony Davidson in the only Super Aguri on track.
Coulthard's teammate Mark Webber shook down the second RB3 chassis, which arrived last night at Valencia.
Williams' Kazuki Nakajima finished at the bottom of the times after another troubled day, the Japanese causing two red flags.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:11.297 60
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:11.621 121
3. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:11.643 108
4. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:11.710 95
5. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:11.989 99
6. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.360 66
7. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.361 69
8. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.418 98
9. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:12.857 20
10. Button Honda (B) 1:12.976 77
11. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:13.143 133
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.450 59
13. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:13.728 03
14. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.796 23
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.945 82
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
| Indocti Discant | 02-01-2007 11:33 AM |
[quote=StuBeck;16865562]Its more 8 years of following Jag/Red Bull...they always start like this, I say that...then they're still slow. Hopefully he just ran that time when it was raining.[/quote]
they will never be anything more than a serious contender for maybe the #5,6 spot...
:(
they will never be anything more than a serious contender for maybe the #5,6 spot...
:(
| Indocti Discant | 02-01-2007 11:34 AM |
[quote=StuBeck;16880815]The F1 teams. They aren't kidding when they say everything is meant to only last the length of the race and nothing more.[/quote]
well engines now 2 races no?
well engines now 2 races no?
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