masiocinterior: F1, the 2007 Edition part 3

artkevin

12-03-2006 12:10 PM

I agree with Massa. As of right now he has the upper hand. He had 2 100% perfect races in 06 and has a full race year and a full year of testing in the Ferrari. Kimi will be coming in fresh to a brand new, altough really easy to drive, Ferrari.

Kimi is most likely much more talented of a driver then Massa but he has the advantage for now.

StuBeck

12-03-2006 12:46 PM

Right now Massa does have the advantage, but I think by the first race Kimi's talent will make him the faster driver.

KAX	12-03-2006 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=menash23;16186289]There is no need to argue, just read what we all know.
[url]http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/john_hopkinson/ferrari.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

just having some fun.

menash23

12-03-2006 04:17 PM

i know, me too...

MattDell

12-03-2006 06:54 PM

No more CBS/Daly for the next 3 years!

Link: [url]http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/03/fox-sports-and-speed-tv-team-up-on-f1-broadcasting/[/url]

-Matt

Ferg	12-03-2006 08:03 PM

Proof there is a God.

KAX	12-03-2006 08:57 PM

hopefully by then itll be worth sitting through Daly's comments for the HD coverage

StuBeck

12-03-2006 09:07 PM

That's awesome. Daly is a good person, but he makes stupid ass comments. I don't know what its going to be like watching the racing in england, it'll be wierd getting used to new broadcasters.

artkevin

12-03-2006 10:19 PM

[QUOTE=MattDell;16191294]No more CBS/Daly for the next 3 years!

Link: [url]http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/03/fox-sports-and-speed-tv-team-up-on-f1-broadcasting/[/url]

-Matt[/QUOTE]

Awesome.
I just read an article in Car & Driver (The one with the Mustang FR500 on the cover) that covered hwo they broadcast the races from North Carolina.

Speed said that the F1 coverage doesn't really make money for them but they feel that to be the best in motor sports broadcasting they have committed to giving the best F1 coverage because it is such a symbol.

Another strange thing in there is that for every race Varsha flies in Atlanta, Hobbs come in from Ohio (I think) and Matchett comes in from FRANCE!:eek:

Ferg	12-03-2006 10:21 PM

I read that same article Kevin, I couldn't believe thay have to share studio space with a televangilist. :huh:

Chiketkd

12-03-2006 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=MattDell;16191294]No more CBS/Daly for the next 3 years![/QUOTE]
Best news I've heard in a long time! :banana: :banana: :banana: :disco:

MattDell

12-04-2006 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=artkevin;16193129]Another strange thing in there is that for every race Varsha flies in Atlanta, Hobbs come in from Ohio (I think) and Matchett comes in from FRANCE!:eek:[/QUOTE]

Would it be that much more expensive to just fly them to the respective races and be able to do it live? Would make for a little better coverage, I think.

At the least, I'm just glad that Varsha, Hobbs, Matchett, and Windsor are on for another 3 years. I like them a lot.

-Matt

MattDell

12-04-2006 12:11 AM

[QUOTE=StuBeck;16192362]That's awesome. Daly is a good person, but he makes stupid ass comments. I don't know what its going to be like watching the racing in england, it'll be wierd getting used to new broadcasters.[/QUOTE]
I just thought about that, too. I hear they love them some Jenson Button.

Luckily so do I. :cool:

-Matt

Ferg	12-04-2006 09:59 AM

The confirmed 2007 entry list.

[QUOTE]FIA confirms 2007 entry list

Monday, December 4th 2006, 10:07 GMT

The FIA published the official entry list to next year's world championship on Monday, with world champion Fernando Alonso duly taking his number one to Vodafone McLaren Mercedes.

The Spaniard's switch of teams means that Renault will have numbers three and four, thanks to their success in the constructors' championship.

The Honda Racing team, which will have numbers seven and eight for Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, appear to have no title sponsor in place for 2007 with their official name being entered as Honda Racing F1 Team.

Scuderia Toro Rosso have not yet nominated either of their drivers, although Vitantonio Liuzzi and Scott Speed are expected to remain on board for another year.

The only other driver vacancy is at the renamed Spyker F1 Team, where Christijan Albers' teammate has not yet been identified.

Vodafone McLaren-Mercedes
1 Fernando Alonso (E)
2 Lewis Hamilton (GB)

ING Renault F1 Team
3 Giancarlo Fisichella (I)
4 Heikki Kovalainen (FIN)

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
5 Felipe Massa (BR)
6 Kimi Raikkonen (FIN)

Honda Racing F1 Team
7 Jenson Button (GB)
8 Rubens Barrichello (BR)

BMW Sauber F1 Team
9 Nick Heidfeld (D)
10 Robert Kubica (PL)

Panasonic Toyota Racing
11 Ralf Schumacher (D)
12 Jarno Trulli (I)

Red Bull Racing Renault
14 David Coulthard (GB)
15 Mark Webber (AUS)

AT&T Williams Toyota
16 Nico Rosberg (D)
17 Alex Wurz (A)

Scuderia Toro Rosso Ferrari
18 TBA
19 TBA

Spyker F1 Team Ferrari
20 Christijan Albers (NL)
21 TBA

TBA Super Aguri F1 Team Honda
22 Takuma Sato (J)
23 Anthony Davidson (GB)

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StuBeck

12-04-2006 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=MattDell;16194205]I just thought about that, too. I hear they love them some Jenson Button.

Luckily so do I. :cool:

-Matt[/QUOTE]

I did download the Hungary race from England where they had Ant commentating. It seems like they get a lot more coverage, but some of it is bad, idk though.

Ferg	12-04-2006 02:52 PM

Interesting news about Paffett...

[QUOTE]Paffett eyes F1 race seat for 2008

By Jonathan Noble Monday, December 4th 2006, 15:07 GMT

McLaren test driver Gary Paffett is confident that he is on course to land a Formula One race drive in 2008, ahead of what is likely to be a one-year return to the DTM next season.

Paffett came close to signing as Honda Racing's tester for 2007 but is understood have turned his back on the option at the last minute after an offer from McLaren that he could not refuse.

There are suggestions that the deal includes the guarantee of a 2008 race driver - [B]possibly with a Mercedes-Benz-backed B-team.[/B]

Speaking at the Autosport Awards on Sunday night, Paffett said that any return to the DTM next season was only as a means of keeping him racing-sharp prior to a Grand Prix assault the year after.

"I would not say DTM is 100 percent certain, but it is pretty close," he said. "I am continuing with McLaren and I have learned a massive amount with them. I am still working on getting an F1 drive for 2008, and seeing about a way to get back to racing.

"I love racing and to get back to the DTM would be fantastic. We are finalizing something and we are quite close."

Looking towards the future, Paffett said his managers Mark Blundell and Martin Brundle had been flat out trying and get him into a F1 race seat in the future - and he dropped a hint that something was in place.

"I have been trying my whole life to get to F1. Mark and Martin have been trying hard and we are getting close. We have big plans for 2008, and a year racing in the DTM would be great for my preparations for 2008."[/QUOTE]

So who will be the McLaren "B-team" in 2008?

Will it be Spykermidlandjordan after yet another buyout?

How about Prodrive, who are no doubt will be looking for a supply of customer chassis in '08.

bitterWRX

12-04-2006 03:41 PM

NYEJ25

12-04-2006 03:59 PM

Kimi is the number 2 driver behind Massa?

I thought for sure we would see Kimi with a orange camera on this car next year.

joltdudeuc

12-04-2006 04:16 PM

My picks:

Kimi- Drivers 07
Ferrari- Constructors 07

GO KIMI!

-Gagan

ptclaus98

12-04-2006 05:11 PM

ptclaus98

12-04-2006 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Ferg;16196664]The confirmed 2007 entry list.[/QUOTE]

Too late for "told you so"?

StuBeck

12-04-2006 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Ferg;16200961]Interesting news about Paffett...

So who will be the McLaren "B-team" in 2008?

Will it be Spykermidlandjordan after yet another buyout?

How about Prodrive, who are no doubt will be looking for a supply of customer chassis in '08.[/QUOTE]

I think its Prodrive, now that Renault is supplying a second team, Ferrari is supplying three, Toyota 2 and Honda 2, I can see Mercedes wanting to supply a second to pay for a bit of their costs, especially with no development anymore too.

[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16203183]They're quite boring from what I've heard.[/QUOTE]

I've listened to a few of them, they seem decent, I think its more the British wanting to complain about everything. Worst case I think I'll get a slingbox and watch over that.

Ferg	12-04-2006 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16203200]Too late for "told you so"?[/QUOTE]

Refresh my memory...I'm studying for finals and my brain is turning to goo. :)

ptclaus98

12-04-2006 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=StuBeck;16206174]
I've listened to a few of them, they seem decent, I think its more the British wanting to complain about everything. Worst case I think I'll get a slingbox and watch over that.[/QUOTE]
That could be it, too.

MattDell

12-04-2006 11:14 PM

Doesn't England get the ITV link over there? I thought that was the one everyone raved over.

-Matt

StuBeck

12-05-2006 10:08 AM

Yea, its the one people bitch about a lot too, but I think they just like to bitch. They have less commercial breaks than we do too.

Ferg	12-05-2006 10:15 AM

I still don't like this idea. Next will be mandatory pitstop windows :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Bridgestone still considering red tyre rule

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, December 5th 2006, 10:32 GMT

Bridgestone has not yet given up on the introduction of a 'red tyre rule' in Formula One next season in a bid to spice up the racing.

Although the idea to force teams to run both a hard and soft option tyre option has not been ratified by teams or the governing body, Bridgestone is still open-minded about the regulation being introduced.

Such a move would not only add to excitement in races, by giving teams another variable to play with, but it would also ensure that all of Bridgestone's tyres would be used up over a weekend - cutting down on potential wasted money spent on unused rubber.

The other option that is being considered is simply for the softer compound tyres to be marked with a red sidewall - so fans and commentators can easily distinguish what type of rubber each driver is using in the races.

Speaking to autosport.com about the rules, Bridgestone's technical manager Hisao Suganuma said: "Everybody asks me this, but we have not decided yet. We are going to speak with the FIA.

"For example if the FIA decided to mark different colours, we will consider as we are happy to cooperate. To me it is a big matter for us if it makes F1 more interesting."

Suganuma warned, however, that there would be complications in producing red sidewalled tyres � because of the different requirements of tyres at each track.

"Taking account of the production of such tyres, we need to think," he explained. "For example, in Champ Car softer tyres have the red mark on the sidewall.

"Maybe we would have some difficulty because the softer tyre on a circuit may be the harder tyre on another circuit, which means we need to have all the different specifications in double colours � one with a standard sidewall and the other with a coloured sidewall.

"That makes it more difficult. If we need to do that we should think about the best way to do it.

"Personally in theory we can do it, but it is the discussion between the FIA and the Bridgestone teams. If F1 requires us to consider it we will cooperate."[/QUOTE]

joltdudeuc

12-05-2006 11:50 AM

hate that red/black crap in champ car, and I really do hope it doesn't come out in F1.

-Gagan

StuBeck

12-05-2006 12:20 PM

Bridgestone needs to stop bitching about being the sole tyre producer.

Having the red tyre rule where they have to run both isn't too great, but having it so they're easily recognized is good. And they're talking out of their ass when they say its going to be hard with the hard tyre being the soft at another track. I don't think putting the logo on the tyre takes much time, they should just do that with the red tyre, unless they're talking about making the entire tyre red.

artkevin

12-05-2006 12:55 PM

I remember Justin Wilson talking about how strange the red tyres are. He said it was hard to set up the car because you have 2 sets of "hard" and 1 of super soft. You also never really get a chance to test the reds so its all a guessing game.

ptclaus98

12-05-2006 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Ferg;16206232]Refresh my memory...I'm studying for finals and my brain is turning to goo. :)[/QUOTE]

I said Kimi would be the no. 2 when the speculation started.

StuBeck

12-05-2006 01:07 PM

Yea, I don't think its a good system, its better in Champ Car because they're the same chassis and everything, so it gives more passing. F1 isn't about that though.

JoD	12-05-2006 01:10 PM

JoD	12-05-2006 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16213507]I said Kimi would be the no. 2 when the speculation started.[/QUOTE]

Yeah - WTF???

ptclaus98

12-05-2006 01:21 PM

[QUOTE=JoD;16213570]Yeah - WTF???[/QUOTE]
Actually, I said he would be No. 2 if MS stayed.

Damn.

NYEJ25

12-05-2006 01:36 PM

He should be No.1

Ferg	12-05-2006 03:16 PM

He's getting Michael's car, Michael's engineers, and (almost) Michael's salary.

The number on the car is sort meaningless unless it's the actual "#1".

StuBeck

12-05-2006 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=JoD;16213570]Yeah - WTF???[/QUOTE]

Massa finished higher in the drivers championship than Kimi. Thats why.

TimStevens

12-05-2006 04:00 PM

And I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes higher next year, too.

StuBeck

12-05-2006 04:02 PM

If Kimi has a reliable car I think he'll be faster, it won't be a complete blowout, but Kimi is faster.

StuBeck

12-06-2006 10:19 AM

Looks like STR and SA are going to be running customer chassis the same way STR did last year with the R1. People (Spyker, Williams) are all pissed, even though its being done the same way it was last year with STR.

Ferg	12-06-2006 10:20 AM

Here's the story on that Stu.

[QUOTE][B]Teams to meet over customer car row[/B]

By Adam Cooper & Jonathan Noble Wednesday, December 6th 2006, 13:09 GMT

Formula One team bosses have scheduled talks for this Friday to discuss whether Super Aguri and Scuderia Toro Rosso's plans for 2007 cars are a breach of the sport's regulations, this week's Autosport reveals.

Several team principals are upset that the two teams are planning to effectively run customer chassis next season, which is not allowed under the terms of the Concorde Agreement. Both outfits are adamant, however, they are complying with the rules.

As autosport.com revealed last week, Super Aguri look set to run a development version of this year's Honda RA106, while senior sources have told autosport.com that Toro Rosso's STR2 will effectively be the same chassis as Red Bull Racing's but with a different rear end to accommodate the Ferrari engine.

The debut in Barcelona last week of Aguri's interim car, which looks virtually identical to the RA106, has spurned Spyker team boss Colin Kolles into action.

He has circulated a letter to team principals and the FIA detailing the similarities between the Super Aguri and the 2006 Honda chassis.

Although Kolles acknowledges that teams can do whatever they want to in testing, he is concerned that Super Aguri are planning to race a development version of that interim car next season.

Such an action is outlawed under Section 3 of the Concorde Agreement, which states: "A constructor is a person (including any incorporated or unincorporated body) who owns the intellectual property rights to the rolling chassis it currently races, and does not incorporate in such chassis any part designed or manufactured by any other constructor of F1 racing cars except for standard items of safety equipment, providing that nothing in the Schedule 3 shall prevent the use of an engine or gearbox manufactured by a person other than the constructor of the chassis."

Super Aguri argue that their car is not built at Honda's Brackley headquarters, but at the Honda R&D facility in Tochigi, Japan. The intellectual property rights of the RA106 have been transferred from the Honda race team to the Honda Motor Company to allow Aguri to develop the concept.

Kolles, who has organised the talks for this week, is not the only one upset at the situation. Williams co-owner Patrick Head, whose team have considered legal action over the customer car situation, is adamant that chassis sharing is not allowed in 2007.

That much was made clear when a team principals' meeting in Paris on September 18 vetoed the plans.

Head told Autosport: "Max said very clearly at that meeting that this could not happen for 2007. I didn't think it was necessary to add in our objections.

"I think there would have been many other teams who would have objected it being brought forward and the fact nobody else is recorded as having objected is only because Max responded so quickly. That is the last we heard about it.

"I think we'd be more concerned about Toro Rosso running a 2007 Red Bull than about Aguri. But there's been no public declaration of what is intended. Aguri are entitled to run another team's car at Barcelona.

"What is important is what they're going to be running in Melbourne. We'll listen to what is said on Friday."

Super Aguri's managing director Daniel Audetto is convinced that his team are doing nothing wrong, though.

He told Autosport: "It's not a modification, and I repeat what I say. We'll make the best performing car within the existing rules. That is our aim. We want to be as competitive as possible, we will not be very competitive, but our aim is to finish in the top 10.

"We know the rules, we studied the rules, and we have a lot of support from Honda. So therefore we have to take the most advantage we are allowed to take."[/QUOTE]

StuBeck

12-06-2006 11:15 AM

Yep, that's what I read from Autosport, but too lazy to link it ;)

Ferg	12-06-2006 12:22 PM

I don't blame you.

With Autosport making more of their news free this year I won't have to do nearly as much copy and pasting as I did for the '06 thread. I'm just going to be cherry picking the really good stuff from now on. All the regulars to our threads should know by now where to go for the hard F1 news. :)

Ferg	12-06-2006 12:23 PM

Jerez, Day One.

[QUOTE]Ferrari duo dominate Jerez test

Wednesday, December 6th 2006, 16:09 GMT

The Ferrari team continued with their dominance of winter testing by topping the times on the opening day of this week's session at Jerez.

Felipe Massa and Luca Badoer, who topped the times during the three days of testing at Barcelona last week, were again the quickest men as Ferrari showed their greater experience with Bridgestone tyres is paying off during their initial preparations for the 2007 season.

Massa was the fastest of the two, with Badoer less than three tenths of a second behind.

Lewis Hamilton was the quickest of the non-Ferrari drivers in his McLaren, the Briton outpacing teammate Pedro de la Rosa by two tenths of a second as he continued to gather experience in a Formula One car.

Austrian Christian Klien was fourth quickest in the Honda, but nearly a second off Massa's pace. The newly-signed test driver shared the work with Briton James Rossiter, the busiest man today with 103 laps completed.

Japanese driver Kohei Hirate made his debut at the wheel of a Formula One car, testing for the Toyota team alongside the Japanese squad's new test driver Franck Montagny, fifth quickest.

Hirate put on a respectable performance and outpaced two more experienced drivers after 75 laps.

Anthony Davidson showed the progress of the Super Aguri team by setting the sixth fastest time of the day in the interim Honda-powered car. The British driver, however, caused one of the red flags of the day when he stopped on track at around 1pm.

The other three red flags of the day were triggered by Giancarlo Fisichella, who stopped on track around noon, BMW-Sauber's Robert Kubica going off track 15 minutes later, and Badoer also going off in the afternoon.

Today's test took place under clear skies, although early on the track was wet following some overnight showers.

Today's times:

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:19.462 54
2. Badoer Ferrari (B) 1:19.708 77
3. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.245 79
4. Klien Honda (B) 1:20.394 89
5. Montagny Toyota (B) 1:20.398 96
6. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.437 52
7. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.442 65
8. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:20.725 103
9. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:20.784 67
10. Webber Red Bull-Ferrari (B) 1:21.053 81
11. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.079 72
12. Ammermuller Red Bull-Ferrari (B) 1:21.143 74
13. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.182 75
14. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:21.183 49
15. Hirate Toyota (B) 1:21.424 75
16. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (B) 1:21.472 96
17. Vettel BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.067 77

All Timing Unofficial
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StuBeck

12-06-2006 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=Ferg;16227180]I don't blame you.

With Autosport making more of their news free this year I won't have to do nearly as much copy and pasting as I did for the '06 thread. I'm just going to be cherry picking the really good stuff from now on. All the regulars to our threads should know by now where to go for the hard F1 news. :)[/QUOTE]

Yea, its still good to bring them in, you can just do links a lot of the time though if you're lazy, hehe. I think I am going to get an autosport subscription while I'm still here, and I'll definitely get one when I go to england.

Ferg	12-06-2006 12:45 PM

In England you can find it just about everywhere, they might even hand them out as you get off the plane...nice that they'll be relevant when you read them rather than a week or two behind.

Have I told you that you're a right git lately?

StuBeck

12-06-2006 01:08 PM

Hehe, yea, I'm going to subscribe to F1 racing and autosport when I move there.

I think I'm going to have to get used to the slang though...what'd you say?

Ferg	12-06-2006 01:10 PM

I have no idea...I think I heard it while watching a Harry Potter movie. :lol:

TimStevens

12-06-2006 01:12 PM

I see Mika is absent from the list above. Any ideas when he's due back on track?

StuBeck

12-06-2006 01:24 PM

[QUOTE=Ferg;16227881]I have no idea...I think I heard it while watching a Harry Potter movie. :lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol: Okay, I feel less n00bish now. Its hard talking to people about how I want to go to england when I've never been there, and one of the things I like about there is the fact they have free testing at silverstone.

MattDell

12-06-2006 01:46 PM

I think the Ferrari numbers are very straightforward. Massa finished ahead of Raikkonen last year, therefore he gets the higher number. Now if Raikkonen finishes ahead of Massa next year, then he'll get the #1. I don't think either driver is necessarily the #1 driver in the same way it was with Michael.

-Matt

StuBeck

12-06-2006 04:21 PM

With Ferrari there always has been a #1 driver, Ferrari is really the only constructor who cares more about the drivers championship than the constructors championship. They're going to stand behind Kimi unless by some chance he is very slow in testing and crashes out the first few races.

KAX	12-06-2006 08:23 PM

yes but this is a new ferrari. IIRC they were changing their ideas about the championships now that michael is gone. They want two good drivers to win the constructors, most likely with one of them taking the drivers. I dont think at this point in time it matters to them which one gets that crown.

StuBeck

12-06-2006 10:19 PM

No, this has been ferrari forever, not just since Michael came in. They're paying Kimi enough to want him to win the championship, and i think it is part of the reason Irvine didn't win the championship in 99 (and him sucking in Japan for some reason too.) Ferrari is a constructor yes, but it doesn't help their car sales, nor are they about car sales, they're a company made to race.

Ferg	12-06-2006 11:42 PM

I have to disagree with a little of what you said Stu. I think the Ferrari "#1 Driver" mentality really only came on when Niki Lauda joined in the seventies. It's no coincidence that di Montezemolo was the team manager at the time...and it was the first time in a long time they had anything resembling championship winning pace and reliability. Before then Enzo tended to play favorites with his drivers, but it was much more on a race by race basis. He never had any qualms about pitting his own drivers against each other, messing with their heads, or outright firing them, even when they were winning. Keep in mind these were times when Ferrari ran as many as five cars at a race...

If we're calling it more of a "team orders" approach to Grand Prix racing then yeah, Ferrari have been playing that card since the 1930s!

On another note...will we see Alonso in an MP4-21 next week? What say you Flav?

[QUOTE]McLaren ask Renault to release Alonso

By Alan Baldwin Wednesday, December 6th 2006, 20:49 GMT

McLaren have asked Renault to release world champion Fernando Alonso from his contract early so that he can test for them in Spain next week.

McLaren chief executive Martin Whitmarsh told reporters at the team's Woking headquarters today that he was still hoping the 25-year-old Spaniard could make his McLaren debut this year.

"Being frank about it, we'd like him in the car as quickly as we can," he said. "After this week there's one more test and we'd like Renault to recognise everything that he's done for them and release him to come and test for us next week.

"We have requested it and if they said yes, we could do it."

Alonso, who agreed last year after winning his first title to switch to the Mercedes-powered team in 2007, has already had a seat fitting for McLaren but remains under contract to Renault until the end of the year.

Whitmarsh said he hoped to talk to Renault team boss Flavio Briatore at the FIA awards ceremony in Monaco on Friday.

"The earlier we can get Fernando in the car, the better," said Whitmarsh. "If, after two bottles of champagne, Flavio agrees on Friday night, then we'll rush around to get him (Alonso) in the car next week.

"We're not counting on it (Alonso testing this year), but if the opportunity arose we'd love to do it. If they say no again, then we'll respect it, but we'll keep asking until there's no more chance."

Alonso partners British rookie Lewis Hamilton at the team in an all-new line-up following the departure of Finland's Kimi Raikkonen to Ferrari as Michael Schumacher's replacement and Colombian Juan Pablo Montoya to NASCAR.

Ferrari have no plans to test Raikkonen before the new year and Whitmarsh said there had been no request from the championship runners-up to do so.
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artkevin

12-07-2006 12:14 AM

I personally think Ferrari are all about winning. I may have my head in the sand but if Rubens or any other Schumacher teammate would have had a huge spell of luck while Schumacher didn't in the 1st half of the season, they would have supported the "#2". We never had a chance to witness that but I think with the Massa/Kimi battle it might just turn out to them backing the strongest horsefor 07 when they prove it on track.

KAX	12-07-2006 12:26 AM

MattDell

12-07-2006 02:27 AM

Perhaps at the moment they're not certain who to make #1 then. Maybe Ferrari will go back to their old ways and fully support one of them once either Massa or Raikkonen take the lead.

-Matt

EDIT: Crap. My post is pretty much redundant because I didn't see page 8 and the three posts above me. :p

StuBeck

12-07-2006 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=artkevin;16236699]I personally think Ferrari are all about winning. I may have my head in the sand but if Rubens or any other Schumacher teammate would have had a huge spell of luck while Schumacher didn't in the 1st half of the season, they would have supported the "#2". We never had a chance to witness that but I think with the Massa/Kimi battle it might just turn out to them backing the strongest horsefor 07 when they prove it on track.[/QUOTE]

Being an Irvine fan, take what I say with a grain fo salt, but in 99 Irvine did have this. Ferrari did not get behind him as much as I think they should have, making stupid mistakes like European GP and taking 20 seconds to get a 4th tyre for him. They lost the drivers championship that year because they made Irvine move over early in the season to get Schumacher a few extra points. I don't think they wanted Irvine to win the championship beause of all the effort they put into getting Schumaher the title the previous 3 years.

A lot of Ferrari has changed, but I think F1 has also changed. You need to have a top driver now more than ever. The cars are so complex you have to design the car around one driver (unless by luck both drivers have similar driving styles) to get the msot out of it. Look at Mclaren this year. When Montoya left their pace went up because they could design it specifically for Kimi's ability to deal with understeer, where Montoya couldn't.

I do agree that right now Ferrari doesn't have a top driver. They want Kimi to be because of the money they're spending, but if he is horrible in testing for ssome reason they'll get behind Massa.

On a completely different idea, does anyone know where to get F1 wallpapers which are 1920x1200? I'm using one of the Honda F1 12x10 resolutions I got earlier in the week, but it looks pretty hideious all stretched out and stuff, and no, I'm not "not" stretching it ;)

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Chủ Nhật, 30 tháng 10, 2016

F1, the 2007 Edition part 3

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