| Ferg | 12-25-2006 03:55 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16437469]Anyone else get any F1 stuff for xmas/other holiday? I got my usual F1 Racing magazine, the "last" schumi special issue.[/QUOTE]
The 2006 Autocourse, but it won't ship for another two weeks. :D
Does a case of Red Bull count as being F1 related? :lol:
Merry Christmas everyone, and cheers for a new year!
:banana:
The 2006 Autocourse, but it won't ship for another two weeks. :D
Does a case of Red Bull count as being F1 related? :lol:
Merry Christmas everyone, and cheers for a new year!
:banana:
| artkevin | 12-25-2006 04:23 PM |
Got this from the January 07 Road & Track:
From Fomula 1 to Your Car
Shell and Ferrari's Technical Partnership
Shell recently gave us a tour of the mobile text lab they take to almost all of the season's Formula 1 races. The oil giant develops the fuel, lubricants and hydraulic fluids for the Ferrari Formula 1 team and it's production cars.
The Fuel Shell provides to Ferrari is made up of 99% of the same types of compounds (FIA rule) found in the V-Power fuel you can buy for your own car-an excellent illustration of how motorsports technology benefits the consumer.
Some interesting techincal nuggets:
Every kilo (2.2 lb.) of fuel weight saved translates to a .05-second quicker race lap.
The stresses are so intense in today's 20,000-plus-rpm F1 engines that the connecting rods stretch 1mm and the piston heads flex at speed.
The Shell mobile track lab can detect a level of contamination in a fuel sample equivalent to a cup of sugar dumped into Loch Ness.
Fuel gets pumped into the Ferrari during a pitstop at 12 liters per second-25 times faster than your gas station pump.
Shell's gearbox fluid engineers can look at a sample and know if it came from either Schumacher's or Massa's scarlet machine.
Shell produces eight to nine race fuel blends for Ferrari.
Michael Schumacher can detect when a different type of fuel has been added to the car while testing: the same goes for drive-shaft lubricants
[I]Jim Hall[/I]
From Fomula 1 to Your Car
Shell and Ferrari's Technical Partnership
Shell recently gave us a tour of the mobile text lab they take to almost all of the season's Formula 1 races. The oil giant develops the fuel, lubricants and hydraulic fluids for the Ferrari Formula 1 team and it's production cars.
The Fuel Shell provides to Ferrari is made up of 99% of the same types of compounds (FIA rule) found in the V-Power fuel you can buy for your own car-an excellent illustration of how motorsports technology benefits the consumer.
Some interesting techincal nuggets:
Every kilo (2.2 lb.) of fuel weight saved translates to a .05-second quicker race lap.
The stresses are so intense in today's 20,000-plus-rpm F1 engines that the connecting rods stretch 1mm and the piston heads flex at speed.
The Shell mobile track lab can detect a level of contamination in a fuel sample equivalent to a cup of sugar dumped into Loch Ness.
Fuel gets pumped into the Ferrari during a pitstop at 12 liters per second-25 times faster than your gas station pump.
Shell's gearbox fluid engineers can look at a sample and know if it came from either Schumacher's or Massa's scarlet machine.
Shell produces eight to nine race fuel blends for Ferrari.
Michael Schumacher can detect when a different type of fuel has been added to the car while testing: the same goes for drive-shaft lubricants
[I]Jim Hall[/I]
| John__Gotti | 12-25-2006 05:05 PM |
Never recieved anythig F1 related except what I bought myself.
It is a very cool book. When I get some time will sit down and read through it.
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There was the one Budweiser commercial with JPM driving the Bubweiser crown track. He got out of the car and said something like, "who designed this track". It was a crap commercial and they make crap beer. Just thought I would throw that use less sit of info out there.
It is a very cool book. When I get some time will sit down and read through it.
[IMG]http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/1893618293.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1083951468_.jpg[/IMG]
There was the one Budweiser commercial with JPM driving the Bubweiser crown track. He got out of the car and said something like, "who designed this track". It was a crap commercial and they make crap beer. Just thought I would throw that use less sit of info out there.
| ptclaus98 | 12-25-2006 07:01 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16437969]I've met Massa in person and he is the smallest-full grown-non-midget man I have ever seen. Schumi barely looks any bigger then him in the clip. Anyone know how tall Here Schumacher is?[/QUOTE]
I don't know but I'm almost as tall as Kubica and he towers over everyone else on the paddock. I know girls who I would say are small that make Taco look like a midget.
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I'm almost 6'1".
I don't know but I'm almost as tall as Kubica and he towers over everyone else on the paddock. I know girls who I would say are small that make Taco look like a midget.
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I'm almost 6'1".
| StuBeck | 12-25-2006 08:48 PM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti;16438657]Never recieved anythig F1 related except what I bought myself.
It is a very cool book. When I get some time will sit down and read through it.
There was the one Budweiser commercial with JPM driving the Bubweiser crown track. He got out of the car and said something like, "who designed this track". It was a crap commercial and they make crap beer. Just thought I would throw that use less sit of info out there.[/QUOTE]
That sucks. My mom offered to pay for a lot of stuff at this years USGP, but other than that a copy of F1 racing is usually what I get.
As surprising as it is, that was actually Marc Gene. I still don't know why he did the ad though.
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16439238]I don't know but I'm almost as tall as Kubica and he towers over everyone else on the paddock. I know girls who I would say are small that make Taco look like a midget.
I'm almost 6'1".[/QUOTE]
Kubica is pretty tall for an F1 driver, and Schumacher is too. I remember towering over Barrichello at Indy this year, and Albers was pretty small too (although more of an ******* than anything.)
In a somewhat unrelated note, F1 racing is estimating Kimi is making 51 million a year directly from Ferrari, compared to the 65 mil Schumacher made. That almost makes Ralf's 25 mil seem reasonable, although I still go by the thought that if Ralf's last name was Peabody, he'd be making about 85% less. Kimi can also have personal sponsorship too, unlike before.
It is a very cool book. When I get some time will sit down and read through it.
There was the one Budweiser commercial with JPM driving the Bubweiser crown track. He got out of the car and said something like, "who designed this track". It was a crap commercial and they make crap beer. Just thought I would throw that use less sit of info out there.[/QUOTE]
That sucks. My mom offered to pay for a lot of stuff at this years USGP, but other than that a copy of F1 racing is usually what I get.
As surprising as it is, that was actually Marc Gene. I still don't know why he did the ad though.
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16439238]I don't know but I'm almost as tall as Kubica and he towers over everyone else on the paddock. I know girls who I would say are small that make Taco look like a midget.
I'm almost 6'1".[/QUOTE]
Kubica is pretty tall for an F1 driver, and Schumacher is too. I remember towering over Barrichello at Indy this year, and Albers was pretty small too (although more of an ******* than anything.)
In a somewhat unrelated note, F1 racing is estimating Kimi is making 51 million a year directly from Ferrari, compared to the 65 mil Schumacher made. That almost makes Ralf's 25 mil seem reasonable, although I still go by the thought that if Ralf's last name was Peabody, he'd be making about 85% less. Kimi can also have personal sponsorship too, unlike before.
| grandpa rex | 12-26-2006 06:31 AM |
If Ralf's name was Peabody, he'd be trying to master "Would you like fries with that?"
| ptclaus98 | 12-26-2006 10:05 AM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16439820]That sucks. My mom offered to pay for a lot of stuff at this years USGP, but other than that a copy of F1 racing is usually what I get.
As surprising as it is, that was actually Marc Gene. I still don't know why he did the ad though.
Kubica is pretty tall for an F1 driver, and Schumacher is too. I remember towering over Barrichello at Indy this year, and Albers was pretty small too (although more of an ******* than anything.)
In a somewhat unrelated note, F1 racing is estimating Kimi is making 51 million a year directly from Ferrari, compared to the 65 mil Schumacher made. That almost makes Ralf's 25 mil seem reasonable, although I still go by the thought that if Ralf's last name was Peabody, he'd be making about 85% less. Kimi can also have personal sponsorship too, unlike before.[/QUOTE]
Schumi is 5'10'' or some thing like that. But he's a stick figure compared to Americans.:(
As surprising as it is, that was actually Marc Gene. I still don't know why he did the ad though.
Kubica is pretty tall for an F1 driver, and Schumacher is too. I remember towering over Barrichello at Indy this year, and Albers was pretty small too (although more of an ******* than anything.)
In a somewhat unrelated note, F1 racing is estimating Kimi is making 51 million a year directly from Ferrari, compared to the 65 mil Schumacher made. That almost makes Ralf's 25 mil seem reasonable, although I still go by the thought that if Ralf's last name was Peabody, he'd be making about 85% less. Kimi can also have personal sponsorship too, unlike before.[/QUOTE]
Schumi is 5'10'' or some thing like that. But he's a stick figure compared to Americans.:(
| Ferg | 12-27-2006 11:04 AM |
"Also, I dress much better than him, and he smells like old cheese."
[QUOTE][B]Liuzzi unimpressed by Bourdais[/B]
By Michele Lostia and Jonathan Noble Wednesday, December 27th 2006, 09:53 GMT
Vitantonio Liuzzi has played down the form of Sebastien Bourdais during his test at Jerez earlier this month - insisting that he saw nothing that worried him.
Bourdais is in frame for a drive at Toro Rosso in 2008 after impressing the team during a three-day tryout at Jerez.
The three times Champ Car champion was quicker than Scott Speed and just a few tenths off Liuzzi's pace. But the Italian himself revealed he was not hugely impressed with the Frenchman.
"Bourdais probably thought he would get here and humble everyone," Liuzzi told Autosprint magazine.
"By contrast, even if by a small amount, in the two days of our challenge I was faster. And the gap would have been wider without a traction control problem on the new tyres."
Liuzzi said he remained confident for his future, even though Toro Rosso have yet to confirm their drivers for next season.
"The test was carried out in a fair way, with no favouritism. My contract specifies driving in F1, but with Red Bull you never know.
"I think I did well this season, but my future is not up to me."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Liuzzi unimpressed by Bourdais[/B]
By Michele Lostia and Jonathan Noble Wednesday, December 27th 2006, 09:53 GMT
Vitantonio Liuzzi has played down the form of Sebastien Bourdais during his test at Jerez earlier this month - insisting that he saw nothing that worried him.
Bourdais is in frame for a drive at Toro Rosso in 2008 after impressing the team during a three-day tryout at Jerez.
The three times Champ Car champion was quicker than Scott Speed and just a few tenths off Liuzzi's pace. But the Italian himself revealed he was not hugely impressed with the Frenchman.
"Bourdais probably thought he would get here and humble everyone," Liuzzi told Autosprint magazine.
"By contrast, even if by a small amount, in the two days of our challenge I was faster. And the gap would have been wider without a traction control problem on the new tyres."
Liuzzi said he remained confident for his future, even though Toro Rosso have yet to confirm their drivers for next season.
"The test was carried out in a fair way, with no favouritism. My contract specifies driving in F1, but with Red Bull you never know.
"I think I did well this season, but my future is not up to me."[/QUOTE]
| ptclaus98 | 12-27-2006 12:17 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16452055]"Also, I dress much better than him, and he smells like old cheese."
[QUOTE][B]Liuzzi unimpressed by Bourdais[/B]
By Michele Lostia and Jonathan Noble Wednesday, December 27th 2006, 09:53 GMT
Vitantonio Liuzzi has played down the form of Sebastien Bourdais during his test at Jerez earlier this month - insisting that he saw nothing that worried him.
Bourdais is in frame for a drive at Toro Rosso in 2008 after impressing the team during a three-day tryout at Jerez.
The three times Champ Car champion was quicker than Scott Speed and just a few tenths off Liuzzi's pace. But the Italian himself revealed he was not hugely impressed with the Frenchman.
"Bourdais probably thought he would get here and humble everyone," Liuzzi told Autosprint magazine.
"By contrast, even if by a small amount, in the two days of our challenge I was faster. And the gap would have been wider without a traction control problem on the new tyres."
Liuzzi said he remained confident for his future, even though Toro Rosso have yet to confirm their drivers for next season.
"The test was carried out in a fair way, with no favouritism. My contract specifies driving in F1, but with Red Bull you never know.
"I think I did well this season, but my future is not up to me." [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
:lol:
[QUOTE][B]Liuzzi unimpressed by Bourdais[/B]
By Michele Lostia and Jonathan Noble Wednesday, December 27th 2006, 09:53 GMT
Vitantonio Liuzzi has played down the form of Sebastien Bourdais during his test at Jerez earlier this month - insisting that he saw nothing that worried him.
Bourdais is in frame for a drive at Toro Rosso in 2008 after impressing the team during a three-day tryout at Jerez.
The three times Champ Car champion was quicker than Scott Speed and just a few tenths off Liuzzi's pace. But the Italian himself revealed he was not hugely impressed with the Frenchman.
"Bourdais probably thought he would get here and humble everyone," Liuzzi told Autosprint magazine.
"By contrast, even if by a small amount, in the two days of our challenge I was faster. And the gap would have been wider without a traction control problem on the new tyres."
Liuzzi said he remained confident for his future, even though Toro Rosso have yet to confirm their drivers for next season.
"The test was carried out in a fair way, with no favouritism. My contract specifies driving in F1, but with Red Bull you never know.
"I think I did well this season, but my future is not up to me." [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
:lol:
| artkevin | 12-27-2006 12:54 PM |
That doesn't sound like Liuzzi at all. He usually is not a *s* talker from what I've seen. He must be feeling the pressure to throw in the jab at Red Bull in at the end. Very strange.
Also, didn't Vit win the same championship that Seb did the year after?
Also, didn't Vit win the same championship that Seb did the year after?
| Ferg | 12-27-2006 01:05 PM |
Almost, there was a year between their F3000 titles.
Bourdais won it in 2002, Liuzzi was the last guy to win the title (before it morphed into GP2) in 2004.
Bourdais won it in 2002, Liuzzi was the last guy to win the title (before it morphed into GP2) in 2004.
| KAX | 12-27-2006 02:19 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16453281]That doesn't sound like Liuzzi at all. He usually is not a *s* talker from what I've seen. He must be feeling the pressure to throw in the jab at Red Bull in at the end. Very strange.[/QUOTE]
thats the same thing I thought. Seems like hes fearing for his job right now. Bourdais is obviously going to be slower, hes never driven an F1 car before. Though I dont think Vit will get the boot, Scott will be the first to go.
thats the same thing I thought. Seems like hes fearing for his job right now. Bourdais is obviously going to be slower, hes never driven an F1 car before. Though I dont think Vit will get the boot, Scott will be the first to go.
| Ferg | 12-27-2006 04:03 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX;16454284]Bourdais is obviously going to be slower, hes never driven an F1 car before. Though I dont think Vit will get the boot, Scott will be the first to go.[/QUOTE]
Bourdais did some testing for Renault a few years ago, although as fast as F1 cars develop that's pretty much as good as never driving one.
You're right about who'll get the boot at Toro Rosso, it'll be Speed first, then Liuzzi. There's just too many up and coming drivers with talent to spare for the cronic underachievers to hold their seats. Unless of course they have a Diniz-sized sponsor packet in their pocket.
Bourdais did some testing for Renault a few years ago, although as fast as F1 cars develop that's pretty much as good as never driving one.
You're right about who'll get the boot at Toro Rosso, it'll be Speed first, then Liuzzi. There's just too many up and coming drivers with talent to spare for the cronic underachievers to hold their seats. Unless of course they have a Diniz-sized sponsor packet in their pocket.
| artkevin | 12-27-2006 06:46 PM |
How much money did Diniz actually bring to the table?
From what I remember he was some where between Ide and PDLR in driving talent (meaning he never left an impression on me but he could have been pretty good for all I know).
From what I remember he was some where between Ide and PDLR in driving talent (meaning he never left an impression on me but he could have been pretty good for all I know).
| StuBeck | 12-27-2006 07:04 PM |
Diniz brought a ton to the table, they bought part of Prost before it went under, although he didn't get a drive because of that, I think he was bringing in 5 mil or so, when that was a big number in driver sponsorships.
| Ferg | 12-27-2006 07:22 PM |
Pedro's father owns a massive chain of South American supermarkets, which brought whatever team Pedro was driving for massive amounts of Parmalat money. IIRC he actually funded Forti's move from F3000 to F1 and when he left the money went with him. Forti folded shorty afterwards.
| StuBeck | 12-27-2006 08:59 PM |
Yea, thats basically what I remember, he basically bought his drives, although I remember him being fairly decent.
| Ferg | 12-27-2006 09:44 PM |
I remember his drive at Spa in 1997 pretty well. He didn't finish all that high (I think something broke on the Arrows) but he was running with the heavies on a very very wet track while his teammate (the defending World Champ at that) went backwards.
Suprising he isn't on the radar anymore, even in sportscars.
Suprising he isn't on the radar anymore, even in sportscars.
| StuBeck | 12-27-2006 11:11 PM |
I'm pretty sure he basically quit when he retired from F1.
| grandpa rex | 12-28-2006 07:00 AM |
I saw Diniz drive about 6 times in Montreal. Never showed me anything other than a rich dad buying him a ride.
The funniest incident was when he missed a curve or something, went off into the dirt, and back onto the track. He picked up several huge pieces of sod in his side pods and as he braked at the corners, it would spill out onto the track. I'm talking large pieces of sod, not a few pieces of dirt. Anyway, they had to bring out the safety car to sweep the track.
Ferg has it right: he brought huge Parmalat $$ wherever he went because of his father's influence with them.
Kevin puts his talent a little high. I wouldn't put Diniz in the same category as Pete Rose. Probably closer to Alex Yoong - another buy-a-ride guy.
The funniest incident was when he missed a curve or something, went off into the dirt, and back onto the track. He picked up several huge pieces of sod in his side pods and as he braked at the corners, it would spill out onto the track. I'm talking large pieces of sod, not a few pieces of dirt. Anyway, they had to bring out the safety car to sweep the track.
Ferg has it right: he brought huge Parmalat $$ wherever he went because of his father's influence with them.
Kevin puts his talent a little high. I wouldn't put Diniz in the same category as Pete Rose. Probably closer to Alex Yoong - another buy-a-ride guy.
| artkevin | 12-28-2006 09:41 AM |
Oh, I wasn't giving him any credit really. I just said he was somewhere between sucky and not bad.
Yoong has been doing suprising well in A1GP this year. I never thought he had any skill at all but he's done alright including a win.
Yoong has been doing suprising well in A1GP this year. I never thought he had any skill at all but he's done alright including a win.
| StuBeck | 12-28-2006 09:56 AM |
Yoong is decent, a lot better than his drives at Minardi showed him to be. I think there was a lot of stuff going on in the background at Minardi which we don't know about which caused the issues he had. Sure, A1GP isn't F1, but there are a few good drivers in the series and he has been doing really well for it.
| Ferg | 12-28-2006 11:48 AM |
[QUOTE=grandpa rex;16461508]The funniest incident was when he missed a curve or something, went off into the dirt, and back onto the track. He picked up several huge pieces of sod in his side pods and as he braked at the corners, it would spill out onto the track. I'm talking large pieces of sod, not a few pieces of dirt. Anyway, they had to bring out the safety car to sweep the track.[/QUOTE]
I remember laughing so hard during that race I started crying. :lol:
I remember laughing so hard during that race I started crying. :lol:
| rupertberr | 12-28-2006 11:57 AM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16438332]The 2006 Autocourse, but it won't ship for another two weeks. :D
Does a case of Red Bull count as being F1 related? :lol:
Merry Christmas everyone, and cheers for a new year!
:banana:[/QUOTE]
My Autocourse was sitting under the tree.:D After 17 years wife knows nothing else is important to me. Flipped straight to the drivers ratings. Won't say anything till you get yours.
I also got a copy of Motor Racing the Early Years by Getty Images. Very impressed with that one.
I am 5'10 and stood an arm's length from Schumacher. He might be 5'10 if he had very good shoes on. All the F1 drivers are tiny. Prost being the shortest in my memory.
Does a case of Red Bull count as being F1 related? :lol:
Merry Christmas everyone, and cheers for a new year!
:banana:[/QUOTE]
My Autocourse was sitting under the tree.:D After 17 years wife knows nothing else is important to me. Flipped straight to the drivers ratings. Won't say anything till you get yours.
I also got a copy of Motor Racing the Early Years by Getty Images. Very impressed with that one.
I am 5'10 and stood an arm's length from Schumacher. He might be 5'10 if he had very good shoes on. All the F1 drivers are tiny. Prost being the shortest in my memory.
| StuBeck | 12-28-2006 12:10 PM |
Ant is redicoulsy small, he makes Jenson button look big.
| artkevin | 12-28-2006 12:10 PM |
Wurz, Webber, Button, Tiago, and DC are normal sized guys. Some are small-ish like JPM, Alonso, Klien and Kimi. Others are effing tiny. Massa looks like a very old little boy. When I met Allen McNish I felt like I was shaking hands with a baby! I'm only 5'7" but I towered over the two of them.
Actually, I was at a party where most if not all the Brazilians (Massa, TK, Rubens) where and they were standing in a circle. I felt like a teacher of 5th graders.
Yes, I love the sport because the heros of it make me feel manly because I feel like I could kick the crap out of them in a bar fight.:lol:
Actually, I was at a party where most if not all the Brazilians (Massa, TK, Rubens) where and they were standing in a circle. I felt like a teacher of 5th graders.
Yes, I love the sport because the heros of it make me feel manly because I feel like I could kick the crap out of them in a bar fight.:lol:
| rupertberr | 12-28-2006 12:47 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16464313]Yes, I love the sport because the heros of it make me feel manly because I feel like I could kick the crap out of them in a bar fight.:lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol:
I remember some driver back in the 80's that was 6'1" and lost his drive because he was too tall.:(
:lol:
I remember some driver back in the 80's that was 6'1" and lost his drive because he was too tall.:(
| sirfrankwilliams | 12-29-2006 12:28 AM |
Wasn't it Alexander Wurz who was said to have considered having his femurs shortened at one point because some people thought he was too tall for F1? eww.
| MattDell | 12-29-2006 12:32 AM |
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;16472068]Wasn't it Alexander Wurz who was said to have considered having his femurs shortened at one point because some people thought he was too tall for F1? eww.[/QUOTE]
I can't even imagine the recovery process for something like that. OUCH!
I can't even imagine the recovery process for something like that. OUCH!
| TimStevens | 12-29-2006 06:46 AM |
Someone I worked with years ago had a son who had to have a similar procedure done but for the reverse effect: to lengthen one of his legs to match the other. They'd break his leg then put it in an expanding cast, wait for it to heal, then break it again, extend the cast, rinse and repeat.
There were months and months of recovery between each break. I'm guessing Wurz's procedure would have been different, but if I were him and I believed that was the only think keeping me out of F1, I'd probably seriously think about it too.
There were months and months of recovery between each break. I'm guessing Wurz's procedure would have been different, but if I were him and I believed that was the only think keeping me out of F1, I'd probably seriously think about it too.
| StuBeck | 12-29-2006 11:48 AM |
The problem for him at McLaren has been Newey making the car so tiny for the two small drivers. They had to make him a special MP4/20 for last year.
I am pretty sure Wilson left F1 because of this problem. While he was at Jaguar it took 13 hours to get him into the car, and his head was still over a quarter of the air inlet.
I am pretty sure Wilson left F1 because of this problem. While he was at Jaguar it took 13 hours to get him into the car, and his head was still over a quarter of the air inlet.
| Ferg | 12-29-2006 11:55 AM |
Anyone remember McLaren having to make an extra wide version of the MP4-10 for Nigel Mansell back in 1995?
| TimStevens | 12-29-2006 12:04 PM |
Yep, and I finally figured out what it was that was four-wheel in the 1994 Benetton: it was four-wheel steering, not four-wheel drive :)
| artkevin | 12-29-2006 12:04 PM |
Yup, thats just kinda rude!
On the Wilson route, has anyone noticed that he leans his head out of the car rather then in? Its the opp. of JPM, when Wilson takes a left his head goes out to the right. It always looks like his neck is going to snap.
On the Wilson route, has anyone noticed that he leans his head out of the car rather then in? Its the opp. of JPM, when Wilson takes a left his head goes out to the right. It always looks like his neck is going to snap.
| wistful | 12-29-2006 12:39 PM |
How on earth would it take 13 hours to put somebody in? That doesn't make sense.. especially when he needs to be able to get out within like 5 seconds or something (vaguely remembering the physical exam Schuey had to do after breaking his leg).
Don
Don
| ptclaus98 | 12-29-2006 12:41 PM |
[QUOTE=wistful;16476212]How on earth would it take 13 hours to put somebody in? That doesn't make sense.. especially when he needs to be able to get out within like 5 seconds or something (vaguely remembering the physical exam Schuey had to do after breaking his leg).
Don[/QUOTE]
I think that was an exaggeration.
Don[/QUOTE]
I think that was an exaggeration.
| artkevin | 12-29-2006 01:47 PM |
from f1racing.net
[B]2007 rule change summary[/B]
28 December 2006
There will be a number of rule changes in force for the start of 2007, details of all the key changes are summarised here:
[B]Single tyre supplier [/B]
Bridgestone will be the sole tyre supplier in Formula 1 from 2007 to 2010. For the 2007 season, they will supply each team with identical specifications and quantities during the season. At a Grand Prix weekend, this translates to a 'hard' and a 'soft' compound. Tyres will be supplied in accordance with the revised Sporting Regulations, which provide for a total of 14 sets of dry weather tyres per driver over the race weekend: four sets for Friday only, and 10 for the rest of the weekend.
[B]
Technical Regulations[/B]
As is customary, the safety regulations have been further refined for 2007. These include an improved frontal crash test, the introduction of a cockpit GPS marshalling system which will alert drivers to on-track dangers and a new 'accident severity indicator' to indicate the severity of an accident to medical rescue crews.
[B]Voluntary Testing Agreement[/B]
The Formula 1 teams have unanimously agreed to the voluntary early introduction of the testing agreement scheduled for 2008. This limits each team to an annual limit of 30,000 km (against Renault F1 Team's current annual total of around 50,000 km).
[B]Homologated Engines[/B]
From 2007, Formula 1 will enter an era of minimal engine development activity. The engines used will be limited to a maximum of 19,000 rpm, and will have as their basis the V8 units that had completed the two-race cycle of China/Japan or Japan/Brazil according to engine usage cycles. These engines can be re-tuned to a limit of 19,000 rpm according to a list of modifications that must be submitted to, and approved by the FIA, by mid-December. All competitors will use V8 engines in 2007.
[B]Engine Usage[/B]
The two weekends per engine formula will continue to pertain in 2007, but its application will be different. The 'race weekend' in terms of engine use will now only begin on Saturday, not Friday, thus excluding the newly-extended Friday free practice sessions.
[B]Grand Prix Friday Format[/B]
The format for the Friday of Grand Prix weekends has been altered in a bid to encourage increased on-track action during this part of the race weekend. The two free practice sessions will now last for 90 minutes each rather than one hour, with race weekend timings still to be confirmed. Each team is allowed to run a maximum of two cars during these sessions, but these cars can be driven by either the race drivers or the nominated third driver.
[B]
Sporting Regulations[/B]
Other detail changes have been made to the Sporting Regulations concerning Safety Car protocol and the imposition of penalties by the Stewards of the Meeting (they can now impose grid position penalties in addition to time penalties).
[B]2007 rule change summary[/B]
28 December 2006
There will be a number of rule changes in force for the start of 2007, details of all the key changes are summarised here:
[B]Single tyre supplier [/B]
Bridgestone will be the sole tyre supplier in Formula 1 from 2007 to 2010. For the 2007 season, they will supply each team with identical specifications and quantities during the season. At a Grand Prix weekend, this translates to a 'hard' and a 'soft' compound. Tyres will be supplied in accordance with the revised Sporting Regulations, which provide for a total of 14 sets of dry weather tyres per driver over the race weekend: four sets for Friday only, and 10 for the rest of the weekend.
[B]
Technical Regulations[/B]
As is customary, the safety regulations have been further refined for 2007. These include an improved frontal crash test, the introduction of a cockpit GPS marshalling system which will alert drivers to on-track dangers and a new 'accident severity indicator' to indicate the severity of an accident to medical rescue crews.
[B]Voluntary Testing Agreement[/B]
The Formula 1 teams have unanimously agreed to the voluntary early introduction of the testing agreement scheduled for 2008. This limits each team to an annual limit of 30,000 km (against Renault F1 Team's current annual total of around 50,000 km).
[B]Homologated Engines[/B]
From 2007, Formula 1 will enter an era of minimal engine development activity. The engines used will be limited to a maximum of 19,000 rpm, and will have as their basis the V8 units that had completed the two-race cycle of China/Japan or Japan/Brazil according to engine usage cycles. These engines can be re-tuned to a limit of 19,000 rpm according to a list of modifications that must be submitted to, and approved by the FIA, by mid-December. All competitors will use V8 engines in 2007.
[B]Engine Usage[/B]
The two weekends per engine formula will continue to pertain in 2007, but its application will be different. The 'race weekend' in terms of engine use will now only begin on Saturday, not Friday, thus excluding the newly-extended Friday free practice sessions.
[B]Grand Prix Friday Format[/B]
The format for the Friday of Grand Prix weekends has been altered in a bid to encourage increased on-track action during this part of the race weekend. The two free practice sessions will now last for 90 minutes each rather than one hour, with race weekend timings still to be confirmed. Each team is allowed to run a maximum of two cars during these sessions, but these cars can be driven by either the race drivers or the nominated third driver.
[B]
Sporting Regulations[/B]
Other detail changes have been made to the Sporting Regulations concerning Safety Car protocol and the imposition of penalties by the Stewards of the Meeting (they can now impose grid position penalties in addition to time penalties).
| StuBeck | 12-29-2006 05:13 PM |
[QUOTE=wistful;16476212]How on earth would it take 13 hours to put somebody in? That doesn't make sense.. especially when he needs to be able to get out within like 5 seconds or something (vaguely remembering the physical exam Schuey had to do after breaking his leg).
Don[/QUOTE]
How does it not make sense? He's 6 4 and the car was made for Pizzonia who is like 5 4. They had to move stuff around and find a way to get him comfortable, it took them a lot longer than simply dropping in and saying "yep, we're done."
Don[/QUOTE]
How does it not make sense? He's 6 4 and the car was made for Pizzonia who is like 5 4. They had to move stuff around and find a way to get him comfortable, it took them a lot longer than simply dropping in and saying "yep, we're done."
| Slick Nick | 12-29-2006 08:11 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16479639]How does it not make sense? He's 6 4 and the car was made for Pizzonia who is like 5 4. They had to move stuff around and find a way to get him comfortable, it took them a lot longer than simply dropping in and saying "yep, we're done."[/QUOTE]
I think the confusion stemmed from the idea of taking 13 hours before each race to get into the car (the interpretation), as opposed to taking 13 hours to get the car fitted for the driver (what was actually meant).
The two are very different, and one is entirely possible and the other would be insane.
Just my interpretation.
-Nick
I think the confusion stemmed from the idea of taking 13 hours before each race to get into the car (the interpretation), as opposed to taking 13 hours to get the car fitted for the driver (what was actually meant).
The two are very different, and one is entirely possible and the other would be insane.
Just my interpretation.
-Nick
| StuBeck | 12-29-2006 08:55 PM |
Oh...well then, umm, I thought that was obvious, haha.
| artkevin | 12-30-2006 11:11 AM |
Why can't have have this camera shot in F1 broadcasts? They used it all the time in champ car a few years back.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bWeNHsoapnc[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bWeNHsoapnc[/url]
| ptclaus98 | 12-30-2006 11:18 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16485251]Why can't have have this camera shot in F1 broadcasts? They used it all the time in champ car a few years back.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bWeNHsoapnc[/url][/QUOTE]
My guess is since the head is shaking so much, you don't really get a sense of speed. The pod-cam makes it look a lot faster.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bWeNHsoapnc[/url][/QUOTE]
My guess is since the head is shaking so much, you don't really get a sense of speed. The pod-cam makes it look a lot faster.
| maxpower45 | 12-30-2006 11:28 AM |
I would love to see the helmet cams in F1 but there seemed to be a lot of interferance/video cutouts when they were used in Champ Cars.
| StuBeck | 12-30-2006 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens;16475726]Yep, and I finally figured out what it was that was four-wheel in the 1994 Benetton: it was four-wheel steering, not four-wheel drive :)[/QUOTE]
And thats what I told you when you first posted it!
And thats what I told you when you first posted it!
| cdvma | 12-30-2006 07:41 PM |
Sorta on topic but I went to Maranello last week and got a pic of me and an F2005 at the Galleria Ferrari :)
[IMG]http://project802.net/personal/gallery/albums/italy06/IMG_1259.sized.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://project802.net/personal/gallery/albums/italy06/IMG_1259.sized.jpg[/IMG]
| Ferg | 12-30-2006 07:42 PM |
Did you touch it?
| cdvma | 12-30-2006 07:44 PM |
The sign said "Please do not touch" but you know I had to :P
| Ferg | 12-30-2006 07:46 PM |
I'm sure there's several Tifosi who'd like to do much more to the F2005, like beat it silly with a large stick. :lol:
| ptclaus98 | 12-30-2006 08:45 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16488781]I'm sure there's several Tifosi who'd like to do much more to the F2005, like beat it silly with a large stick. :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I was just about to say!
I mean, out of all the ones there you pick the one that laid an egg(of sorts).
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I was just about to say!
I mean, out of all the ones there you pick the one that laid an egg(of sorts).
| KAX | 12-30-2006 10:43 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16489249]:lol: :lol: :lol:
I was just about to say!
I mean, out of all the ones there you pick the one that laid an egg(of sorts).[/QUOTE]
maybe he loves it cuz hes a renault fan:lol:
I was just about to say!
I mean, out of all the ones there you pick the one that laid an egg(of sorts).[/QUOTE]
maybe he loves it cuz hes a renault fan:lol:
| Ferg | 12-30-2006 11:39 PM |
Well to be fair Maranello has produced it's fair share of what the immortal Gilles called "****boxes". :lol:
Speaking of Gilles, this May marks the 25th anniversary of his death. :(
Speaking of Gilles, this May marks the 25th anniversary of his death. :(
| Ferg | 12-31-2006 11:59 AM |
Interesting thoughts from Mr BMW.
[QUOTE]Theissen: customer cars will ruin F1
By Jonathan Noble Sunday, December 31st 2006, 12:56 GMT
BMW Motorsport Director Mario Theissen has attacked plans to introduce customer cars in Formula One - telling autosport.com this is a completely wrong direction for the sport to head.
As the possibility of legal action over Super Aguri and Scuderia Toro Rosso's 2007 plans looks increasingly likely, Theissen thinks there are even bigger issues at stake for F1.
He believes the freeing up of chassis sharing rules from 2008 onward will rob the sport of variety, and could result in just six teams producing cars for racing.
"There is this discussion about 2007, but to me the general view is more important," he said when asked by autosport.com about the future of customer cars in the sport. "I don't think it is good to sell chassis to a second team.
"The original idea was to help smaller teams to become competitive in F1, that is a good approach and certainly it would help them if they can buy a chassis and not need to employ 300 people to design and build it.
"On the other hand, as soon as such a rule comes in, I think the attitude of the independent teams will change.
"Today we have independent teams who want to be competitive, who see themselves as one of 12 teams on the grid who fight for their own success.
"With the chassis sale, I think we will very soon have six plus six teams - or six programmes with four cars each.
"And there will be so-called independent teams who offer their services to the big teams in order to get chassis for free.
"One has to think about whether that is good for F1. I would prefer having 12 teams, two cars each, everyone fighting for their own destiny and success."
Theissen believes that the spectacle of the sport will be decreased by having just six manufacturer teams producing all the cars - especially if one of those car makers puts all its resources behind just one driver.
"This is a really serious issue," he warned. "I think it will change the face of F1.
"My fear is that there will be independent teams in the future who are not independent. I think every manufacturer would certainly think about having a second team, but it would lead to a situation of one team controlling four cars - and maybe using three cars to support the top driver.
"We have always said that we support the current situation of having manufacturer teams as well as independent teams fighting for wins.
"It is a healthy plan, and having just four or five big players controlling the grid in our view would not be F1 any more."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Theissen: customer cars will ruin F1
By Jonathan Noble Sunday, December 31st 2006, 12:56 GMT
BMW Motorsport Director Mario Theissen has attacked plans to introduce customer cars in Formula One - telling autosport.com this is a completely wrong direction for the sport to head.
As the possibility of legal action over Super Aguri and Scuderia Toro Rosso's 2007 plans looks increasingly likely, Theissen thinks there are even bigger issues at stake for F1.
He believes the freeing up of chassis sharing rules from 2008 onward will rob the sport of variety, and could result in just six teams producing cars for racing.
"There is this discussion about 2007, but to me the general view is more important," he said when asked by autosport.com about the future of customer cars in the sport. "I don't think it is good to sell chassis to a second team.
"The original idea was to help smaller teams to become competitive in F1, that is a good approach and certainly it would help them if they can buy a chassis and not need to employ 300 people to design and build it.
"On the other hand, as soon as such a rule comes in, I think the attitude of the independent teams will change.
"Today we have independent teams who want to be competitive, who see themselves as one of 12 teams on the grid who fight for their own success.
"With the chassis sale, I think we will very soon have six plus six teams - or six programmes with four cars each.
"And there will be so-called independent teams who offer their services to the big teams in order to get chassis for free.
"One has to think about whether that is good for F1. I would prefer having 12 teams, two cars each, everyone fighting for their own destiny and success."
Theissen believes that the spectacle of the sport will be decreased by having just six manufacturer teams producing all the cars - especially if one of those car makers puts all its resources behind just one driver.
"This is a really serious issue," he warned. "I think it will change the face of F1.
"My fear is that there will be independent teams in the future who are not independent. I think every manufacturer would certainly think about having a second team, but it would lead to a situation of one team controlling four cars - and maybe using three cars to support the top driver.
"We have always said that we support the current situation of having manufacturer teams as well as independent teams fighting for wins.
"It is a healthy plan, and having just four or five big players controlling the grid in our view would not be F1 any more."[/QUOTE]
| Ferg | 12-31-2006 12:02 PM |
Confirmed launch dates..
[QUOTE]
Renault Jan 24th
McLaren Jan 15th
Toyota Jan 12th
BMW Jan 16th
[/QUOTE]
Only 76 days to go. :D
Have a great New Years everyone!
:banana:
[QUOTE]
Renault Jan 24th
McLaren Jan 15th
Toyota Jan 12th
BMW Jan 16th
[/QUOTE]
Only 76 days to go. :D
Have a great New Years everyone!
:banana:
| StuBeck | 12-31-2006 10:32 PM |
They had customer cars in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, and it didn't hurt the sport. The problem is its become so political that this is an issue, but not requiring all the teams should still mean there isn't this issue. Its been most of the teams agreeing with something sans Ferrari for a few years anyways.
| ArtGecko | 01-01-2007 01:04 AM |
OK, this may be old (I don't watch TV) but I was watching the ABC Rockin' New Year's Eve thing. There was a Calvin Klein ad on several times, with a guy watching a couple of larger screens with a girl on it. I swear the guy was Jensen Button.
For all of you that are west of here where it is still last year, take a look and see if I'm right. I did a quick Google search but came up empty.
Happy New Year!
Steve
For all of you that are west of here where it is still last year, take a look and see if I'm right. I did a quick Google search but came up empty.
Happy New Year!
Steve
| StuBeck | 01-01-2007 03:59 PM |
I know its sort of off topic, but if you have a DSW near you they are having a 50% off sale on shoes already on clearence. The mens selection isn't too great, bu I did get a pair of Pirelli P zero rosso corza for 30 bucks.
| ptclaus98 | 01-01-2007 07:13 PM |
DSW?
I'm now 100% focused on F1. Damn Tennessee.
I'm now 100% focused on F1. Damn Tennessee.
| KAX | 01-01-2007 08:20 PM |
damn, i might have to take a stop by DSW then.
| cdvma | 01-01-2007 10:01 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16488781]I'm sure there's several Tifosi who'd like to do much more to the F2005, like beat it silly with a large stick. :lol:[/QUOTE]
True. Here you go then, an F2002
[IMG]http://project802.net/personal/gallery/albums/italy06/IMG_1181.sized.jpg[/IMG]
True. Here you go then, an F2002
[IMG]http://project802.net/personal/gallery/albums/italy06/IMG_1181.sized.jpg[/IMG]
| StuBeck | 01-01-2007 11:07 PM |
That's an F2000, although I think the tyres might be from 01.
A notice on the Pirelli shoes, they run small. I'm a 10 1/2-11 1/2 normally, these are a 9 and just somewhat tight.
A notice on the Pirelli shoes, they run small. I'm a 10 1/2-11 1/2 normally, these are a 9 and just somewhat tight.
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