| Impreza88 | 01-17-2007 09:25 PM |
i have no doubt that things will only get faster, the tires last year were supposed to be a lot slower, times only got faster. The v8s were supposed to be so much slower as well, once again the times only got faster. they have incredible engineers over there and silly rules are not going to stop them. theyll always find ways to get faster:banana:
| StuBeck | 01-17-2007 09:28 PM |
[QUOTE=Impreza88;16707640]i have no doubt that things will only get faster, the tires last year were supposed to be a lot slower, times only got faster. The v8s were supposed to be so much slower as well, once again the times only got faster. they have incredible engineers over there and silly rules are not going to stop them. theyll always find ways to get faster:banana:[/QUOTE]
Not with the tyres, the FIA has told them to make the tyres slower, that is why they are slower, not because the grip has suddenly gone away or anything. They will eventually gain back speed, but its not going to be because of the tyres. And teh V8's were slower in the corners than the V10's, which is what they wanted.
Not with the tyres, the FIA has told them to make the tyres slower, that is why they are slower, not because the grip has suddenly gone away or anything. They will eventually gain back speed, but its not going to be because of the tyres. And teh V8's were slower in the corners than the V10's, which is what they wanted.
| ArtGecko | 01-17-2007 09:36 PM |
[QUOTE]
Originally Posted by parker/slc/gc8fan View Post
Man have I missed alot the last few weeks.
I'll catch up.
Ferrari's barge boards are scaring me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Scooby-Doode;16691800]lol no kidding...
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/73107925/large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
They reminded me of a Fantasy knife blade!
[IMG]http://www.headlinesonline.com/fantasy%20knife.jpg[/IMG]
Originally Posted by parker/slc/gc8fan View Post
Man have I missed alot the last few weeks.
I'll catch up.
Ferrari's barge boards are scaring me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Scooby-Doode;16691800]lol no kidding...
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/73107925/large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
They reminded me of a Fantasy knife blade!
[IMG]http://www.headlinesonline.com/fantasy%20knife.jpg[/IMG]
| REX8 | 01-17-2007 09:44 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16707695]Not with the tyres, the FIA has told them to make the tyres slower, that is why they are slower, not because the grip has suddenly gone away or anything. They will eventually gain back speed, but its not going to be because of the tyres. And teh V8's were slower in the corners than the V10's, which is what they wanted.[/QUOTE]
I was actually under the impression that the cornering/transition speeds went UP with the V8's and some of the straight line speed fell. I know they only outran the V10's outright a couple of times, but I thought cornering wasnt wear the cars were slower.
I was actually under the impression that the cornering/transition speeds went UP with the V8's and some of the straight line speed fell. I know they only outran the V10's outright a couple of times, but I thought cornering wasnt wear the cars were slower.
| Impreza88 | 01-17-2007 10:01 PM |
as was i, the v8s beat the v10s old times on most tracks, and FIAasco said they wanted the tires slower last year as well. still only got faster
| StuBeck | 01-17-2007 11:53 PM |
[QUOTE=Impreza88;16708158]as was i, the v8s beat the v10s old times on most tracks, and FIAasco said they wanted the tires slower last year as well. still only got faster[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure they went down, or at least the g forces did, which is what they needed.
The tyres weren't going to be slower, that was 05. Going to tyres that had to last 15 laps instead of 100 made them a lot faster.
I'm pretty sure they went down, or at least the g forces did, which is what they needed.
The tyres weren't going to be slower, that was 05. Going to tyres that had to last 15 laps instead of 100 made them a lot faster.
| KAX | 01-18-2007 03:51 AM |
i dont think the cornering speeds went up, they just went into them with less braking and used more throttle throughout the corner so they wouldnt feel the effects of the torque loss.
the thing with the tires is that they can continuously make them slower if the cars begin to counteract it. Since Bridgestone supplies all, making the tire slower for one race will effect everyone almost equally so it won't make a difference in the outcome.
the thing with the tires is that they can continuously make them slower if the cars begin to counteract it. Since Bridgestone supplies all, making the tire slower for one race will effect everyone almost equally so it won't make a difference in the outcome.
| REX8 | 01-18-2007 10:50 AM |
[QUOTE=KAX;16711172]i dont think the cornering speeds went up, they just went into them with less braking and used more throttle throughout the corner so they wouldnt feel the effects of the torque loss.
[/QUOTE]
That statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
If they "came into them with less braking" and their cornering speeds weren't higher, then all you are saying is that their straight away speeds were down.
If they "used more throttle" through a corner, they sure as heck would have had to be going faster through the corner.
Using more throttle through a corner to "not feel the effects of torque loss" sounds a lot like carrying MORE speed through a corner because the car is down on power exiting....aka, they corner faster.
(If you are braking less into a corner, but were entering at the same speed as a V10 entered, by definition you'd have to be cornering faster)
[/QUOTE]
That statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
If they "came into them with less braking" and their cornering speeds weren't higher, then all you are saying is that their straight away speeds were down.
If they "used more throttle" through a corner, they sure as heck would have had to be going faster through the corner.
Using more throttle through a corner to "not feel the effects of torque loss" sounds a lot like carrying MORE speed through a corner because the car is down on power exiting....aka, they corner faster.
(If you are braking less into a corner, but were entering at the same speed as a V10 entered, by definition you'd have to be cornering faster)
| REX8 | 01-18-2007 10:52 AM |
Bottom line,
If the cars are down on power, yet they ran similar lap times, its probably not the straight away speed that gets the job done...
It would have to be increased cornering/transitional speed.
If the cars are down on power, yet they ran similar lap times, its probably not the straight away speed that gets the job done...
It would have to be increased cornering/transitional speed.
| Ferg | 01-18-2007 12:11 PM |
Last years Honda is still a quick car...
[QUOTE][B]Davidson goes fastest at Jerez[/B]
Thursday, January 18th 2007, 16:27 GMT
Briton Anthony Davidson showed Super Aguri's improved form with the fastest time of the day in testing at the Jerez circuit.
Davidson, at the wheel of the interim SAF1 car, posted a best time of 1:19.618 after a massive 145 laps of the Spanish track.
The Super Aguri driver carried out tyre testing, completing long runs, and also worked on trying out new software. He finished ahead of Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella, who was over a tenth slower in the new R27 unveiled this week.
The Renault team caused two red flags during the day as they continued with the initial development of their new car.
Fisichella stopped on track in the afternoon while teammate Heikki Kovalainen forced the session to be stopped early in the morning when a trail of smoke came out from his car at the end of the pitlane.
"We had another good day with the R27 as we started looking at some set-up changes, and understanding the handling," said Fisichella. "We made improvements through the day, and the progress confirmed the potential I could feel in the package during our reliability work yesterday.
"I think we have had a very encouraging week so far, although there are still some problems to fix, like with any new car. But that is what winter testing is all about: every problem we find here, is one that we don't have to worry about in Melbourne in two months' time."
Kovalainen, on the hand, endured a frustrating day after being hit by electrical gremlins early on.
"It was a slightly frustrating day for me because we didn't really start our work properly until this afternoon, and after that our focus was to put miles on the car," the Finn said.
"So not a perfect day for me, but at this stage, the important thing is to get a feel for the handling, and make sure the package is reliable - it's not about setting the stopwatch on fire.
"We had a good end to the day with some longer runs, so hopefully we can carry on our momentum tomorrow in order to catch up on the programme."
Williams driver Nico Rosberg, taking over from teammate Kazuki Nakajima at the wheel of the interim Toyota-powered car, caused the final red flag of the day when he stopped on track 20 minutes from the end of the session.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:19.628 145
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:19.766 61
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.059 75
4. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:21.029 52
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Kubica makes debut with F1.07
Thursday, January 18th 2007, 16:51 GMT
The BMW Sauber team continued with their first testing session with the new F1.07 unveiled this week at the Valencia circuit.
The German squad were the only ones in action today, as McLaren left after shaking down their new car yesterday.
Today, Robert Kubica got his first taste of the F1.07, taking over from teammate Nick Heidfeld. The Pole covered just 39 laps, being hindered by teething problems that were time consuming to fix.
Kubica was joined by test driver Sebastien Vettel, who drove the interim F1.06 chassis. Both drivers concentrated on set-up work aimed at understanding how to make best use of the Bridgestone tyres.
Kubica was the quickest of the two with a time of 1:12.310. Vettel's best was 1:13.490 after 88 laps.
The team will wrap up the test tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Davidson goes fastest at Jerez[/B]
Thursday, January 18th 2007, 16:27 GMT
Briton Anthony Davidson showed Super Aguri's improved form with the fastest time of the day in testing at the Jerez circuit.
Davidson, at the wheel of the interim SAF1 car, posted a best time of 1:19.618 after a massive 145 laps of the Spanish track.
The Super Aguri driver carried out tyre testing, completing long runs, and also worked on trying out new software. He finished ahead of Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella, who was over a tenth slower in the new R27 unveiled this week.
The Renault team caused two red flags during the day as they continued with the initial development of their new car.
Fisichella stopped on track in the afternoon while teammate Heikki Kovalainen forced the session to be stopped early in the morning when a trail of smoke came out from his car at the end of the pitlane.
"We had another good day with the R27 as we started looking at some set-up changes, and understanding the handling," said Fisichella. "We made improvements through the day, and the progress confirmed the potential I could feel in the package during our reliability work yesterday.
"I think we have had a very encouraging week so far, although there are still some problems to fix, like with any new car. But that is what winter testing is all about: every problem we find here, is one that we don't have to worry about in Melbourne in two months' time."
Kovalainen, on the hand, endured a frustrating day after being hit by electrical gremlins early on.
"It was a slightly frustrating day for me because we didn't really start our work properly until this afternoon, and after that our focus was to put miles on the car," the Finn said.
"So not a perfect day for me, but at this stage, the important thing is to get a feel for the handling, and make sure the package is reliable - it's not about setting the stopwatch on fire.
"We had a good end to the day with some longer runs, so hopefully we can carry on our momentum tomorrow in order to catch up on the programme."
Williams driver Nico Rosberg, taking over from teammate Kazuki Nakajima at the wheel of the interim Toyota-powered car, caused the final red flag of the day when he stopped on track 20 minutes from the end of the session.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:19.628 145
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:19.766 61
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.059 75
4. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:21.029 52
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Kubica makes debut with F1.07
Thursday, January 18th 2007, 16:51 GMT
The BMW Sauber team continued with their first testing session with the new F1.07 unveiled this week at the Valencia circuit.
The German squad were the only ones in action today, as McLaren left after shaking down their new car yesterday.
Today, Robert Kubica got his first taste of the F1.07, taking over from teammate Nick Heidfeld. The Pole covered just 39 laps, being hindered by teething problems that were time consuming to fix.
Kubica was joined by test driver Sebastien Vettel, who drove the interim F1.06 chassis. Both drivers concentrated on set-up work aimed at understanding how to make best use of the Bridgestone tyres.
Kubica was the quickest of the two with a time of 1:12.310. Vettel's best was 1:13.490 after 88 laps.
The team will wrap up the test tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
| KAX | 01-18-2007 12:17 PM |
[QUOTE=REX8;16713699]That statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
If they "came into them with less braking" and their cornering speeds weren't higher, then all you are saying is that their straight away speeds were down.
If they "used more throttle" through a corner, they sure as heck would have had to be going faster through the corner.
Using more throttle through a corner to "not feel the effects of torque loss" sounds a lot like carrying MORE speed through a corner because the car is down on power exiting....aka, they corner faster.
(If you are braking less into a corner, but were entering at the same speed as a V10 entered, by definition you'd have to be cornering faster)[/QUOTE]
but they weren't that equal.
just because you are braking less and using more throttle, doesn't mean you are going faster, it means they have less power. They weren't going as fast at the end of a straight, so they weren't going as fast into the corner meaning they could brake less. They didn't have as much torque so they could use more throttle mid-corner without TC kicking in.
at the end, maybe they were cornering faster, i don't know. But i remember the speed guys explaining it just like that at one point during the season.
[QUOTE]Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:19.628 145
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:19.766 61
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.059 75
4. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:21.029 52[/QUOTE]
ok, now we can be suprised at SA's times.
If they "came into them with less braking" and their cornering speeds weren't higher, then all you are saying is that their straight away speeds were down.
If they "used more throttle" through a corner, they sure as heck would have had to be going faster through the corner.
Using more throttle through a corner to "not feel the effects of torque loss" sounds a lot like carrying MORE speed through a corner because the car is down on power exiting....aka, they corner faster.
(If you are braking less into a corner, but were entering at the same speed as a V10 entered, by definition you'd have to be cornering faster)[/QUOTE]
but they weren't that equal.
just because you are braking less and using more throttle, doesn't mean you are going faster, it means they have less power. They weren't going as fast at the end of a straight, so they weren't going as fast into the corner meaning they could brake less. They didn't have as much torque so they could use more throttle mid-corner without TC kicking in.
at the end, maybe they were cornering faster, i don't know. But i remember the speed guys explaining it just like that at one point during the season.
[QUOTE]Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:19.628 145
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:19.766 61
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.059 75
4. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:21.029 52[/QUOTE]
ok, now we can be suprised at SA's times.
| REX8 | 01-18-2007 12:26 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX;16715162]but they weren't that equal.
just because you are braking less and using more throttle, doesn't mean you are going faster, it means they have less power. They weren't going as fast at the end of a straight, so they weren't going as fast into the corner meaning they could brake less. They didn't have as much torque so they could use more throttle mid-corner without TC kicking in.
at the end, maybe they were cornering faster, i don't know. But i remember the speed guys explaining it just like that at one point during the season.
ok, now we can be suprised at SA's times.[/QUOTE]
I'm fine with that....but
If we agree they are down on power on the straights (lower entry speeds, so had to brake less etc. etc. ) then the few times they outran the V10's, they would HAVE to be cornering faster. Thats all I'm saying.
just because you are braking less and using more throttle, doesn't mean you are going faster, it means they have less power. They weren't going as fast at the end of a straight, so they weren't going as fast into the corner meaning they could brake less. They didn't have as much torque so they could use more throttle mid-corner without TC kicking in.
at the end, maybe they were cornering faster, i don't know. But i remember the speed guys explaining it just like that at one point during the season.
ok, now we can be suprised at SA's times.[/QUOTE]
I'm fine with that....but
If we agree they are down on power on the straights (lower entry speeds, so had to brake less etc. etc. ) then the few times they outran the V10's, they would HAVE to be cornering faster. Thats all I'm saying.
| ptclaus98 | 01-18-2007 01:38 PM |
Super Best Friends!!!:lol:
Ant is a good driver and all, but I wish Montagny was still there.
Ant is a good driver and all, but I wish Montagny was still there.
| bitterWRX | 01-18-2007 02:35 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16716558]Super Best Friends!!!:lol:
Ant is a good driver and all, but I wish Montagny was still there.[/QUOTE]
:confused:
Why would you wish Montagny was still there? Granted he was better than Ide... but he has done nothing to earn the seat. I am glad he got bumped.
Davidson on the other hand deserves the drive. Sad he got stuck with a lower Honda but I'm still glad to see him reveal his talent as a racer.
Ant is a good driver and all, but I wish Montagny was still there.[/QUOTE]
:confused:
Why would you wish Montagny was still there? Granted he was better than Ide... but he has done nothing to earn the seat. I am glad he got bumped.
Davidson on the other hand deserves the drive. Sad he got stuck with a lower Honda but I'm still glad to see him reveal his talent as a racer.
| StuBeck | 01-18-2007 02:41 PM |
Montagny was fast, that means he deserves the drive. Davidson almost doesn't deserve the drive just because of the crap dealing he did with his career, he should have had a drive years ago.
| Ferg | 01-18-2007 02:43 PM |
Montangny never got much of a shot. He only drove a handful of races, only finished three of those, and didn't place higher than 16th (twice). The same argument can be said about Davidson...a few races in crap cars (Minardi) and then one oil pump failure for Honda.
He did turn in some pretty impressive Friday times (like Ant) when the Aguri was working though. He certainly didn't deserve to lose his seat to Yamamoto...
I'd like to see Toyota wise up and dump Ralfie for Franck.
He did turn in some pretty impressive Friday times (like Ant) when the Aguri was working though. He certainly didn't deserve to lose his seat to Yamamoto...
I'd like to see Toyota wise up and dump Ralfie for Franck.
| bitterWRX | 01-18-2007 03:02 PM |
Sadly, I don't think Toyota will ever dump Ralf or Jarno...
I just don't thinkDavidson was given as much of a chance to race as Franck Montagy was. Yes he had three race outings, but mostly due to circumstances of the a driver being suspended or a sick Taku. Hardly fair compared to Montagny who actually had a contract drive. I'm not saying Franck is slow... but he was definitely not all that spectacular. But SA did make the mistake of replacing Montagny with Yamamoto.
Just my opinion.
I just don't thinkDavidson was given as much of a chance to race as Franck Montagy was. Yes he had three race outings, but mostly due to circumstances of the a driver being suspended or a sick Taku. Hardly fair compared to Montagny who actually had a contract drive. I'm not saying Franck is slow... but he was definitely not all that spectacular. But SA did make the mistake of replacing Montagny with Yamamoto.
Just my opinion.
| Scoob Kal-EL | 01-18-2007 03:04 PM |
wow...
| StuBeck | 01-18-2007 03:20 PM |
Ralf does need to be dumped, I think the chance of him losing his seat this year is high. Jarno is cheap and has been a lot faster than him most times. I think Toyota wanted him mainly because of his last time, without seeing how Montoya had demolished him pretty much the entire time at Williams.
| KAX | 01-18-2007 03:49 PM |
[QUOTE=REX8;16715312]If we agree they are down on power on the straights (lower entry speeds, so had to brake less etc. etc. ) then the few times they outran the V10's, they would HAVE to be cornering faster. Thats all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]
well, when did they outrun the V10s? thats all I'm asking. I checked formula1.com and looked at the last few races of 2006 compared to the last few races of 2005 and the V8s were still at least a second slower. I figured it would have been at the end of the season that the V8s would have been fastest, so I didn't check any other race. But if they did outrun them, then yes, you are correct.
well, when did they outrun the V10s? thats all I'm asking. I checked formula1.com and looked at the last few races of 2006 compared to the last few races of 2005 and the V8s were still at least a second slower. I figured it would have been at the end of the season that the V8s would have been fastest, so I didn't check any other race. But if they did outrun them, then yes, you are correct.
| Ferg | 01-18-2007 05:51 PM |
Someone had to say it.
[QUOTE][B]Illien: Raikkonen will need a Ferrari tank
[/B]
Thursday, January 18th 2007, 15:49 GMT
Ferrari's new Formula One car will have to be built like a tank to withstand the treatment Kimi Raikkonen dishes out, according to former Mercedes-McLaren engine expert Mario Illien.
"No one drives the machine harder, no one bangs it so hard lap after lap into the kerb," the Swiss, who left Formula One in 2005 and now has an Ilmor MotoGP team, told Sport Bild on Thursday.
"Ferrari will have to build Kimi a tank if they want to win the title with him."
Raikkonen has moved from McLaren, who won no races last year for the first time in a decade, to replace retired seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher at Ferrari this season.
The 27-year-old Finn, twice an overall runner-up in the drivers' championship, suffered repeated engine failures in his time at McLaren. In 2003, he lost out to Schumacher by just two points.
Illien's Ilmor engines powered Finland's Mika Hakkinen to the 1998 and 1999 Formula One titles with McLaren while they have also won the Indy 500 on 11 occasions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Illien: Raikkonen will need a Ferrari tank
[/B]
Thursday, January 18th 2007, 15:49 GMT
Ferrari's new Formula One car will have to be built like a tank to withstand the treatment Kimi Raikkonen dishes out, according to former Mercedes-McLaren engine expert Mario Illien.
"No one drives the machine harder, no one bangs it so hard lap after lap into the kerb," the Swiss, who left Formula One in 2005 and now has an Ilmor MotoGP team, told Sport Bild on Thursday.
"Ferrari will have to build Kimi a tank if they want to win the title with him."
Raikkonen has moved from McLaren, who won no races last year for the first time in a decade, to replace retired seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher at Ferrari this season.
The 27-year-old Finn, twice an overall runner-up in the drivers' championship, suffered repeated engine failures in his time at McLaren. In 2003, he lost out to Schumacher by just two points.
Illien's Ilmor engines powered Finland's Mika Hakkinen to the 1998 and 1999 Formula One titles with McLaren while they have also won the Indy 500 on 11 occasions.[/QUOTE]
| REX8 | 01-18-2007 06:06 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX;16718688]well, when did they outrun the V10s? thats all I'm asking. I checked formula1.com and looked at the last few races of 2006 compared to the last few races of 2005 and the V8s were still at least a second slower. I figured it would have been at the end of the season that the V8s would have been fastest, so I didn't check any other race. But if they did outrun them, then yes, you are correct.[/QUOTE]
I think we've done this before. The last race of the year, and one other race. 2 races and 3-4 pole times IIRC. You'd still have to call the V10's faster ovverall for sure, but some tracks suited the V8's very well, which were the smaller tracks without a hairpin to long straight.
I think we've done this before. The last race of the year, and one other race. 2 races and 3-4 pole times IIRC. You'd still have to call the V10's faster ovverall for sure, but some tracks suited the V8's very well, which were the smaller tracks without a hairpin to long straight.
| KAX | 01-18-2007 07:01 PM |
sounds good then. I think you're right, we did argue this once already :lol:, just not conserning cornering speeds.
Didn't somone say that Kimi was a much smoother driver then Montoya or even Alonso? Everyone used to think it was all Kimi's fault for his engine troubles, then someone at Macca said something about Kimi actually being pretty smooth, and now someone else is contradicting him?
Didn't somone say that Kimi was a much smoother driver then Montoya or even Alonso? Everyone used to think it was all Kimi's fault for his engine troubles, then someone at Macca said something about Kimi actually being pretty smooth, and now someone else is contradicting him?
| StuBeck | 01-18-2007 08:25 PM |
I think they are more saying its Kimi hitting the kerbs that is causing the problems. At least with steering input, Kimi is smoother than Montoya, but Montoya might be smoother with the throttle since he drives with it so much more.
| bitterWRX | 01-18-2007 08:56 PM |
I think Illien is just passing blame for his engine's reliability. Come this season, we'll figure who's fault it really was for McLaren's engine.
| StuBeck | 01-18-2007 11:24 PM |
Yep, I think the same thing. They've been down on power and unable to make them last for years now.
| Gundoo | 01-19-2007 02:54 AM |
off topic for sure but where can i look at last years cars? specifically i want to see the mclaren in testing phase when they had it painted in the lovely mclaren orange color?
| Wr4wrX | 01-19-2007 03:57 AM |
[QUOTE=Gundoo;16726561]off topic for sure but where can i look at last years cars? specifically i want to see the mclaren in testing phase when they had it painted in the lovely mclaren orange color?[/QUOTE]
What a looker...
[IMG]http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html/images/f1/mclaren/06/test/Team%20McLaren%20Mercedes%20MP4-20%20in%20orange%20livery.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html/images/f1/mclaren/06/test/Team%20McLaren%20Mercedes%20MP4-20%20in%20orange%20livery%20front.jpg[/IMG]
What a looker...
[IMG]http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html/images/f1/mclaren/06/test/Team%20McLaren%20Mercedes%20MP4-20%20in%20orange%20livery.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html/images/f1/mclaren/06/test/Team%20McLaren%20Mercedes%20MP4-20%20in%20orange%20livery%20front.jpg[/IMG]
| ptclaus98 | 01-19-2007 07:52 AM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX;16717413]:confused:
Why would you wish Montagny was still there? Granted he was better than Ide... but he has done nothing to earn the seat. I am glad he got bumped.
Davidson on the other hand deserves the drive. Sad he got stuck with a lower Honda but I'm still glad to see him reveal his talent as a racer.[/QUOTE]
:confused: Didn't he have better times than Sato on a couple of occasions?
Why would you wish Montagny was still there? Granted he was better than Ide... but he has done nothing to earn the seat. I am glad he got bumped.
Davidson on the other hand deserves the drive. Sad he got stuck with a lower Honda but I'm still glad to see him reveal his talent as a racer.[/QUOTE]
:confused: Didn't he have better times than Sato on a couple of occasions?
| platypus | 01-19-2007 09:57 AM |
forget the car, I want that workspace! :)
| Ferg | 01-19-2007 10:03 AM |
Does anyone know what those panels with the seven holes are for? Are they outlets?
| Ferg | 01-19-2007 10:11 AM |
Did I say that out loud?
[QUOTE][B]Illien denies Ferrari 'tank' comments
[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Friday, January 19th 2007, 15:01 GMT
Mario Illien believes that Kimi Raikkonen will make a success of his switch to Ferrari, after denying reports that he said the Finn's new team would need to build him a 'tank'.
German newspaper Sports Bild on Thursday quoted Illien as saying that Raikkonen was so hard on his cars that Ferrari would have to produce a bulletproof machine if they were going to get the best out of him.
But Illien has denied making those remarks and, in fact, has told autosport.com he can see no negative aspect to Raikkonen's approach to racing.
"I haven't spoken to anybody in the last few months about Formula One and gave no interviews," said Illien, who worked with Raikkonen when his Ilmor engine company produced engines for Mercedes-Benz.
"Kimi is a great guy. I enjoyed working with him and have great respect for him.
"He always gave the maximum in the car and he was a guy who you know would take things to the limit. I see that as a good thing."
Illien believes that Raikkonen can deliver all that is expected of him at Ferrari following his switch from McLaren.
"He is going to push hard, of course," explained Illien. "A lot will depend on how the relationship between Kimi and the team gels, but I expect everything will work out okay. He is a very committed guy."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Illien denies Ferrari 'tank' comments
[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Friday, January 19th 2007, 15:01 GMT
Mario Illien believes that Kimi Raikkonen will make a success of his switch to Ferrari, after denying reports that he said the Finn's new team would need to build him a 'tank'.
German newspaper Sports Bild on Thursday quoted Illien as saying that Raikkonen was so hard on his cars that Ferrari would have to produce a bulletproof machine if they were going to get the best out of him.
But Illien has denied making those remarks and, in fact, has told autosport.com he can see no negative aspect to Raikkonen's approach to racing.
"I haven't spoken to anybody in the last few months about Formula One and gave no interviews," said Illien, who worked with Raikkonen when his Ilmor engine company produced engines for Mercedes-Benz.
"Kimi is a great guy. I enjoyed working with him and have great respect for him.
"He always gave the maximum in the car and he was a guy who you know would take things to the limit. I see that as a good thing."
Illien believes that Raikkonen can deliver all that is expected of him at Ferrari following his switch from McLaren.
"He is going to push hard, of course," explained Illien. "A lot will depend on how the relationship between Kimi and the team gels, but I expect everything will work out okay. He is a very committed guy."[/QUOTE]
| TimStevens | 01-19-2007 10:26 AM |
.....? :confused: Did he or didn't he?
| StuBeck | 01-19-2007 11:46 AM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16728249]Does anyone know what those panels with the seven holes are for? Are they outlets?[/QUOTE]
I think its probably for air circulation. They did a ton of silly stuff that cost a ton for the new shop, that could have been one of them
[QUOTE=Ferg;16728330]Did I say that out loud?[/QUOTE]
There does seem to be a lot of misquoting going around. Like DC never ever said "this is going to be my year"...and of the years he was quoted as saying it. There are a lot of instances where stuff like this happens and people are incorrectly quoted.
I think its probably for air circulation. They did a ton of silly stuff that cost a ton for the new shop, that could have been one of them
[QUOTE=Ferg;16728330]Did I say that out loud?[/QUOTE]
There does seem to be a lot of misquoting going around. Like DC never ever said "this is going to be my year"...and of the years he was quoted as saying it. There are a lot of instances where stuff like this happens and people are incorrectly quoted.
| schaklos | 01-19-2007 11:48 AM |
From RACER / Speedtv.com
[quote]In an extensive interview with Germany�s Auto Motor und Sport magazine, Scuderia Toro Rosso co-owner criticized the team�s 2006 drivers, Vitantonio Liuzzi and Scott Speed, and paid compliments to triple Champ Car champion Sebastien Bourdais.
�[Liuzzi and Speed] have shown weaknesses; we want to discuss these with them," Berger said, before suggesting that the pairing lacked focus.
"You don't see superstars like Schumacher and Alonso at too many parties. If they also share our goals, they will sit in our cars. If they do not, a further cooperation would be a waste of time."
As for Bourdais, who tested impressively with the team last month but continues to maintain he�s got a contract with Newman/Haas for �07, the Austrian admitted to be intrigued about the Frenchman�s potential.
�He will continue to be observed,� Berger revealed. "The only question that remains now is how much quicker he can go. A second test will give us the answer."
Other than Bourdais, other names mentioned as possibilities to land an STR drive for this season include Tiago Monteiro and Robert Doornbos, both drivers who could bring significant financial backing to the team.
[/quote]
[quote]In an extensive interview with Germany�s Auto Motor und Sport magazine, Scuderia Toro Rosso co-owner criticized the team�s 2006 drivers, Vitantonio Liuzzi and Scott Speed, and paid compliments to triple Champ Car champion Sebastien Bourdais.
�[Liuzzi and Speed] have shown weaknesses; we want to discuss these with them," Berger said, before suggesting that the pairing lacked focus.
"You don't see superstars like Schumacher and Alonso at too many parties. If they also share our goals, they will sit in our cars. If they do not, a further cooperation would be a waste of time."
As for Bourdais, who tested impressively with the team last month but continues to maintain he�s got a contract with Newman/Haas for �07, the Austrian admitted to be intrigued about the Frenchman�s potential.
�He will continue to be observed,� Berger revealed. "The only question that remains now is how much quicker he can go. A second test will give us the answer."
Other than Bourdais, other names mentioned as possibilities to land an STR drive for this season include Tiago Monteiro and Robert Doornbos, both drivers who could bring significant financial backing to the team.
[/quote]
| TimStevens | 01-19-2007 12:59 PM |
This is Red Bull right...criticizing their drivers for partying...?
| Dogbert2 | 01-19-2007 01:06 PM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens;16730580]This is Red Bull right...criticizing their drivers for partying...?[/QUOTE]
:lol:
Next thing we'll hear, "The driver lost control of the car because he was so jittery from drinking too much Red Bull!"
:lol:
Next thing we'll hear, "The driver lost control of the car because he was so jittery from drinking too much Red Bull!"
| artkevin | 01-19-2007 01:28 PM |
I really like Berger and I always pull for Speed and Liuzzi but what is up? Fire them or help them, stop bad mothing them in public.
| bitterWRX | 01-19-2007 01:34 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16727320]:confused: Didn't he have better times than Sato on a couple of occasions?[/QUOTE]
If by "couple," you mean five (maybe six) times out of the twenty eight sessions (qualifying and practice sessions together), and qualifying over Sato once then I guess he was. I didn't count the race results since the SA retires more than anything else.
src: [url]http://www.formula1.com/archive/season/2006.html[/url]
Like I said, as a driver, I'm sure heis fast but in the SA, he was not spectacular or worth keeping.
If by "couple," you mean five (maybe six) times out of the twenty eight sessions (qualifying and practice sessions together), and qualifying over Sato once then I guess he was. I didn't count the race results since the SA retires more than anything else.
src: [url]http://www.formula1.com/archive/season/2006.html[/url]
Like I said, as a driver, I'm sure heis fast but in the SA, he was not spectacular or worth keeping.
| Ferg | 01-19-2007 02:34 PM |
Testing...
[QUOTE][B]Kovalainen ends Jerez test on top[/B]
Friday, January 19th 2007, 16:18 GMT
The Renault team completed their first test with the new R27 car on Friday, with Heikki Kovalainen finishing on top of the times at the Jerez circuit.
Kovalainen, who yesterday endured a troubled day after being hit by electrical gremlins, had a fruitful final session, covering a total of 112 laps and posting the quickest time of the week by quite a margin.
The Finn's best time was half a second better than what Anthony Davidson managed yesterday, and over a whole second quicker than teammate Giancarlo Fisichella, who took to the track in the other R27 chassis.
The Italian driver covered around half the distance than his teammate after causing the only red flag of the day, when his car stopped at 9:30am.
Super Aguri's Takuma Sato was the only other driver on track, the Japanese taking over from teammate Davidson at the wheel of the interim SAF1. Sato was the busiest man at the circuit with 115 laps completed.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:19.185 112
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:20.467 68
3. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.688 115
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Kovalainen ends Jerez test on top[/B]
Friday, January 19th 2007, 16:18 GMT
The Renault team completed their first test with the new R27 car on Friday, with Heikki Kovalainen finishing on top of the times at the Jerez circuit.
Kovalainen, who yesterday endured a troubled day after being hit by electrical gremlins, had a fruitful final session, covering a total of 112 laps and posting the quickest time of the week by quite a margin.
The Finn's best time was half a second better than what Anthony Davidson managed yesterday, and over a whole second quicker than teammate Giancarlo Fisichella, who took to the track in the other R27 chassis.
The Italian driver covered around half the distance than his teammate after causing the only red flag of the day, when his car stopped at 9:30am.
Super Aguri's Takuma Sato was the only other driver on track, the Japanese taking over from teammate Davidson at the wheel of the interim SAF1. Sato was the busiest man at the circuit with 115 laps completed.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:19.185 112
2. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:20.467 68
3. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.688 115
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
| sirfrankwilliams | 01-19-2007 06:43 PM |
[quote=Ferg;16720735]I predict that Kimi will lose the championship for Ferrari.[/quote]
[IMG]http://i.eurosport.com/2007/01/10/329700-1665399-458-238.jpg[/IMG]
[quote=StuBeck;16729470]There does seem to be a lot of misquoting going around.[/quote]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]j/k[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[IMG]http://i.eurosport.com/2007/01/10/329700-1665399-458-238.jpg[/IMG]
[quote=StuBeck;16729470]There does seem to be a lot of misquoting going around.[/quote]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]j/k[/COLOR][/SIZE]
| Ferg | 01-19-2007 09:06 PM |
:lol:
I would never say such a thing!
I may however think it from time to time ;)
I would never say such a thing!
I may however think it from time to time ;)
| meebs | 01-19-2007 09:31 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16731100]I really like Berger and I always pull for Speed and Liuzzi but what is up? Fire them or help them, stop bad mothing them in public.[/QUOTE]
Agreed! Berger reminds me of Lauda'mouth' sometimes. :rolleyes:
Agreed! Berger reminds me of Lauda'mouth' sometimes. :rolleyes:
| artkevin | 01-20-2007 05:08 PM |
[QUOTE=Wr4wrX;16680764]Did I miss some news? I thought AT&T was the title sponsor for Williams. Why is Lenovo on the sidepods and rear wing and not AT&T?
Also, did anybody else notice that Williams has changed their logo again? Look on the nose.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17968.html[/url]
JANUARY 19, 2007
[B]Lenovo and Williams[/B]
Photographs of a Williams decked out with Lenovo livery have created a great deal of speculation that the Grove team may have signed a major sponsorship with the Chinese computer computer - which is the third biggest computer manufacturer in the world, following its 2005 acquisition of IBM's PC Division.
Originally set up in Beijing, the company moved headquarters to Hong Kong in 1988 and, since the IBM deals, is now based in Raleigh, North Carolina.
The problem is that despite a lack of obvious branding on the cars at the moment Williams already has a title sponsorship with AT&T. The team has been very clever in recent years in securing sponsorship without putting too much on the cars and it is significant that AT&T currently has very little space. There is plenty of room available as the team has lost Budweiser, FedEx, Allianz and Reuters but has retained RBS, Petrobras, Oris, Philips, Tata and Randstad.
The team is currently refusing to comment on the pictures but it seems like Lenovo was either being pitched by the team or a deal has been done and different branding was being tried to see how it worked on TV.
All will be revealed on February 2.
Also, did anybody else notice that Williams has changed their logo again? Look on the nose.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17968.html[/url]
JANUARY 19, 2007
[B]Lenovo and Williams[/B]
Photographs of a Williams decked out with Lenovo livery have created a great deal of speculation that the Grove team may have signed a major sponsorship with the Chinese computer computer - which is the third biggest computer manufacturer in the world, following its 2005 acquisition of IBM's PC Division.
Originally set up in Beijing, the company moved headquarters to Hong Kong in 1988 and, since the IBM deals, is now based in Raleigh, North Carolina.
The problem is that despite a lack of obvious branding on the cars at the moment Williams already has a title sponsorship with AT&T. The team has been very clever in recent years in securing sponsorship without putting too much on the cars and it is significant that AT&T currently has very little space. There is plenty of room available as the team has lost Budweiser, FedEx, Allianz and Reuters but has retained RBS, Petrobras, Oris, Philips, Tata and Randstad.
The team is currently refusing to comment on the pictures but it seems like Lenovo was either being pitched by the team or a deal has been done and different branding was being tried to see how it worked on TV.
All will be revealed on February 2.
| MattDell | 01-20-2007 06:56 PM |
I never understood why Tata sponsored F1.
| artkevin | 01-20-2007 07:11 PM |
^^^
2 words: Nahrain Karthikeyan
2 words: Nahrain Karthikeyan
| Wr4wrX | 01-20-2007 07:22 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16743747][url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17968.html[/url]
JANUARY 19, 2007
[B]Lenovo and Williams[/B]
Photographs of a Williams decked out with Lenovo livery have created a great deal of speculation that the Grove team may have signed a major sponsorship with the Chinese computer computer - which is the third biggest computer manufacturer in the world, following its 2005 acquisition of IBM's PC Division.
Originally set up in Beijing, the company moved headquarters to Hong Kong in 1988 and, since the IBM deals, is now based in Raleigh, North Carolina.
The problem is that despite a lack of obvious branding on the cars at the moment Williams already has a title sponsorship with AT&T. The team has been very clever in recent years in securing sponsorship without putting too much on the cars and it is significant that AT&T currently has very little space. There is plenty of room available as the team has lost Budweiser, FedEx, Allianz and Reuters but has retained RBS, Petrobras, Oris, Philips, Tata and Randstad.
The team is currently refusing to comment on the pictures but it seems like Lenovo was either being pitched by the team or a deal has been done and different branding was being tried to see how it worked on TV.
All will be revealed on February 2.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Kevin! :) I can't imagine AT&T would pay for title sponsorship, yet allow Lenovo to cover the major ad real estate. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
--Peter
JANUARY 19, 2007
[B]Lenovo and Williams[/B]
Photographs of a Williams decked out with Lenovo livery have created a great deal of speculation that the Grove team may have signed a major sponsorship with the Chinese computer computer - which is the third biggest computer manufacturer in the world, following its 2005 acquisition of IBM's PC Division.
Originally set up in Beijing, the company moved headquarters to Hong Kong in 1988 and, since the IBM deals, is now based in Raleigh, North Carolina.
The problem is that despite a lack of obvious branding on the cars at the moment Williams already has a title sponsorship with AT&T. The team has been very clever in recent years in securing sponsorship without putting too much on the cars and it is significant that AT&T currently has very little space. There is plenty of room available as the team has lost Budweiser, FedEx, Allianz and Reuters but has retained RBS, Petrobras, Oris, Philips, Tata and Randstad.
The team is currently refusing to comment on the pictures but it seems like Lenovo was either being pitched by the team or a deal has been done and different branding was being tried to see how it worked on TV.
All will be revealed on February 2.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Kevin! :) I can't imagine AT&T would pay for title sponsorship, yet allow Lenovo to cover the major ad real estate. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
--Peter
| artkevin | 01-20-2007 08:24 PM |
No problem Peter. It was a great question and I am trying to get the amount of "crap" under the 80% mark.;)
| artkevin | 01-21-2007 11:24 AM |
Kimi kick back?
from f1racing.net
[B]
McLaren bans drivers from drinking[/B]
21 January 2007
McLaren team boss Ron Dennis has banned his star driver line up of Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton from drinking alcohol during the 2007 F1 season. The only alcohol they will be permitted will be any champagne they win by finishing on the podium.
"We don't see why drivers need to have even a single drink during the course of a season," Dennis told the Mirror newspaper.
Apparently it has nothing to do with former driver Kimi Raikkonen's reported drunken antics during the past year.
from f1racing.net
[B]
McLaren bans drivers from drinking[/B]
21 January 2007
McLaren team boss Ron Dennis has banned his star driver line up of Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton from drinking alcohol during the 2007 F1 season. The only alcohol they will be permitted will be any champagne they win by finishing on the podium.
"We don't see why drivers need to have even a single drink during the course of a season," Dennis told the Mirror newspaper.
Apparently it has nothing to do with former driver Kimi Raikkonen's reported drunken antics during the past year.
| bitterWRX | 01-21-2007 11:59 AM |
I don't think the alcohol ban is neccessarily a bad thing. It's mainly so Ron Dennis doesn't have to keep their boys out of bad press. If anything, McLaren seems to be a team that doesn't really needs this rule... since Alonso doesn't really look like someone who parties hard... and Hamilton looks pretty professional and commited to his rookie year.
| artkevin | 01-21-2007 01:28 PM |
Agreed. Seems like an odd rule since like you said, there is nothing to show that either one of them likes the sauce and they are sponsored by whiskey.
| Counterfit | 01-21-2007 04:06 PM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens;16728487].....? :confused: Did he or didn't he?[/QUOTE]
Yes. :p
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;16735757][IMG]http://i.eurosport.com/2007/01/10/329700-1665399-458-238.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]j/k[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
He looks good in red. ;)
Yes. :p
[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;16735757][IMG]http://i.eurosport.com/2007/01/10/329700-1665399-458-238.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]j/k[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
He looks good in red. ;)
| MattDell | 01-21-2007 06:59 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16744635]^^^
2 words: Nahrain Karthikeyan[/QUOTE]
He drives for Williams?
2 words: Nahrain Karthikeyan[/QUOTE]
He drives for Williams?
| MattDell | 01-21-2007 07:06 PM |
That is a bit absurd. If I'm a driver having dinner at my own home, I'll be damned if I'm not going to have a glass of wine.
I'm not saying the rule is bad, but I'm pretty sure it'll at least be broken when the drivers are on their own (rarely).
-Matt
I'm not saying the rule is bad, but I'm pretty sure it'll at least be broken when the drivers are on their own (rarely).
-Matt
| ptclaus98 | 01-21-2007 07:43 PM |
[QUOTE=MattDell;16753568]He drives for Williams?[/QUOTE]
He was the "4th" driver behind Wurz.
He was the "4th" driver behind Wurz.
| MattDell | 01-21-2007 07:48 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16754031]He was the "4th" driver behind Wurz.[/QUOTE]
Didn't he get some sort of promotion this year?
Didn't he get some sort of promotion this year?
| artkevin | 01-21-2007 07:53 PM |
I think he is offically the 3rd driver now with Wurz gettng the race drive. There is also a Japanese guy named Kazuki Nakajima that Toyota installed (thats what it looks like fromt he outside at least).
Nakajima
[IMG]http://images.f1racing.net/large/67131.jpg[/IMG]
Nahrain:
[IMG]http://images.f1racing.net/large/65461.jpg[/IMG]
Nakajima
[IMG]http://images.f1racing.net/large/67131.jpg[/IMG]
Nahrain:
[IMG]http://images.f1racing.net/large/65461.jpg[/IMG]
| StuBeck | 01-21-2007 08:17 PM |
Adding to the 80%, the guy who drove me to my snow shoeing expedition this weekend used to drive karts with Scott Speed, he said that Speed used to beat teh entire field by half a lap or more. He also mentioned someone else who was crazy good who is trying to get an atlantic drive this year.
| Ferg | 01-21-2007 09:55 PM |
[QUOTE=MattDell;16753626]That is a bit absurd. If I'm a driver having dinner at my own home, I'll be damned if I'm not going to have a glass of wine. [/QUOTE]
There was a wonderful tribute on Regazzoni (by Roebuck of course) in Autosport a few issues back that comes to mind.
Speaking with Mario shortly after Clay's passing...
[QUOTE]I reminded Andretti of a tale he told me long ago about Monza in 1972, where he joined Regazzoni and Jacky Ickx in the Ferrari team. It was lunch on Saturday, an hour or so before qualifying, and he had been...surprised to find Clay enjoying a glass of red wine with his pasta.
"Yeah, that's right!" Mario laughed. "That was Clay, and [Vittorio] Brambilla was the same - and they were inevitably quicker right afterwards! Jeez, imagine that now...you'd be excommunicated!"[/QUOTE]
There was a wonderful tribute on Regazzoni (by Roebuck of course) in Autosport a few issues back that comes to mind.
Speaking with Mario shortly after Clay's passing...
[QUOTE]I reminded Andretti of a tale he told me long ago about Monza in 1972, where he joined Regazzoni and Jacky Ickx in the Ferrari team. It was lunch on Saturday, an hour or so before qualifying, and he had been...surprised to find Clay enjoying a glass of red wine with his pasta.
"Yeah, that's right!" Mario laughed. "That was Clay, and [Vittorio] Brambilla was the same - and they were inevitably quicker right afterwards! Jeez, imagine that now...you'd be excommunicated!"[/QUOTE]
| Ferg | 01-22-2007 01:59 PM |
Setback for Super Aguri.
[QUOTE]Super Aguri forced to delay launch
By Jonathan Noble Monday, January 22nd 2007, 17:36 GMT
Super Aguri have been forced to delay the launch of their 2007 car after failing the initial crash test with their new challenger, autosport.com has learned.
The SA07 is being manufactured out of Honda's R&D facility in Tochigi, but hopes of an first run early next month have been dashed because the monocoque failed the mandatory FIA crash test.
There was a chance the new car could have been launched at the first Bahrain test next month, but it is now looking likely that the car will only run for the first time in late February.
Super Aguri have set some impressive times in pre-season testing with their interim car, which bears a striking resemblance to Honda Racing's RA106.
The team are planning to run a development version of that car after Honda Japan obtained the intellectual property rights to the design.
Honda and Super Aguri will now set about working on modifications to the car so it will be strong enough to pass the crash test when it is submitted again.
Cars cannot race if they have not passed the tough FIA tests before the start of the season.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Super Aguri forced to delay launch
By Jonathan Noble Monday, January 22nd 2007, 17:36 GMT
Super Aguri have been forced to delay the launch of their 2007 car after failing the initial crash test with their new challenger, autosport.com has learned.
The SA07 is being manufactured out of Honda's R&D facility in Tochigi, but hopes of an first run early next month have been dashed because the monocoque failed the mandatory FIA crash test.
There was a chance the new car could have been launched at the first Bahrain test next month, but it is now looking likely that the car will only run for the first time in late February.
Super Aguri have set some impressive times in pre-season testing with their interim car, which bears a striking resemblance to Honda Racing's RA106.
The team are planning to run a development version of that car after Honda Japan obtained the intellectual property rights to the design.
Honda and Super Aguri will now set about working on modifications to the car so it will be strong enough to pass the crash test when it is submitted again.
Cars cannot race if they have not passed the tough FIA tests before the start of the season.[/QUOTE]
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