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F1, the 2007 Edition part 20

TimStevens 02-14-2007 12:31 PM

I just noticed...DC's top time is .7'' off of yesterday's top time.

Oh well...
artkevin 02-14-2007 01:19 PM

[QUOTE=bitterWRX;17050398]The STR has a gold nose and a red intake duct. RBR has yellow for both. That's the only way I can tell the difference.[/QUOTE]

The flip ups going towards the rear wheels are diff too. I truly believe they are diff. cars simply because of the two diff. engines in them so they kind of have to be.

STR only has 150 people in Italy working on the car and RBR probably has about 500. As the year goes on I think the development of the RB3 will take hug steps over the STR2.
Ferg 02-14-2007 02:19 PM

Assuming of course the developments for the RB3 don't somehow find their way to Faenza.

I wish there was a lap per lap chart available for testing. I'd really like to know if the RB3 was consistently that fast or if it was just a low fuel, new tire run for Didi's sake. Still it's nice to see the car [i]can[/i] be fast...
artkevin 02-14-2007 02:59 PM

I think Forix might have that info, or may formula1.com.
StuBeck 02-14-2007 03:04 PM

I literally yelled out "Yeah" and raised my arms in the hair :lol:

They are still a half tenth off of Massa yesterday, but at least they weren't at the back. I don't care if it was a low fuel, new tyre run...it was a good time!

In other excitign news, I did get into grad school, so I'll be going to Royal Holloway next year. Its about half an hour away fromLondon, and a few hours from Silverstone. I'm pretty sure its close to Woking too, so if I can't get any good pics in my trip next month, I'll be able to get better ones when I'm near there for a year.
Indocti Discant 02-14-2007 03:56 PM

[quote=Ferg;17052120]or if it was just a low fuel, new tire run for Didi's sake[/quote]

did you just say toyota?

:p
Slick Nick 02-14-2007 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=StuBeck;17052820]I literally yelled out "Yeah" and raised my arms in the hair :lol:

They are still a half tenth off of Massa yesterday, but at least they weren't at the back. I don't care if it was a low fuel, new tyre run...it was a good time!

In other excitign news, I did get into grad school, so I'll be going to Royal Holloway next year. Its about half an hour away fromLondon, and a few hours from Silverstone. I'm pretty sure its close to Woking too, so if I can't get any good pics in my trip next month, I'll be able to get better ones when I'm near there for a year.[/QUOTE]

Congrats!!!!! thats even better news than RBR taking top time for the day.:banana: :disco: :banana:
ArtGecko 02-14-2007 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=artkevin;17050293]

[B]Coulthard tops the times at Barcelona [/B][/QUOTE]

W00t! This could be the year! :)
parker/slc/gc8fan 02-14-2007 08:08 PM

That would be excelent.
Ferg 02-14-2007 08:10 PM

Congrats Stu!

Can I officially start with the envy?

:D
bitterWRX 02-14-2007 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=StuBeck;17052820]I literally yelled out "Yeah" and raised my arms in the hair :lol:

They are still a half tenth off of Massa yesterday, but at least they weren't at the back. I don't care if it was a low fuel, new tyre run...it was a good time!

In other excitign news, I did get into grad school, so I'll be going to Royal Holloway next year. Its about half an hour away fromLondon, and a few hours from Silverstone. I'm pretty sure its close to Woking too, so if I can't get any good pics in my trip next month, I'll be able to get better ones when I'm near there for a year.[/QUOTE]

Congrats! What will you be studying?
TimStevens 02-14-2007 08:33 PM

Kudos Stu.
StuBeck 02-14-2007 08:58 PM

I'll be studying Business IT. I'm already going to one of the best IT schools in the country, but don't really have any business skills. Thanks for the comments, it took me about an hour just to calm down from finding out :D
KAX 02-14-2007 09:00 PM

Congrats man! I'm going to try and follow in your footsteps, but will be looking for an engineering college. McLaren here I come! :lol:

definitely good news about RBR too. 0.7 seconds is alot less then 3 seconds. Im anxious to see what the car will do. And i guess I have to be a fan of them now that Red Bull sponsors our Formula SAE team, ill be trying to get VIP access to indy or montreal.
StuBeck 02-14-2007 10:03 PM

I am going to see if I can get a job with one of the F1 teams after I graduate. I remember seeing ads in Autosport for RBR seeking IT people, and I could do everythin they wanted. Hell, I'd even work for Super best friends!
MattDell 02-14-2007 10:15 PM

[QUOTE=StuBeck;17052820]In other excitign news, I did get into grad school, so I'll be going to Royal Holloway next year. Its about half an hour away fromLondon, and a few hours from Silverstone. I'm pretty sure its close to Woking too, so if I can't get any good pics in my trip next month, I'll be able to get better ones when I'm near there for a year.[/QUOTE]

Royal Holloway is amazing, Stu! Congratulations for getting in! I'd honestly like to come visit that campus sometime so we'll have to figure something out. Likewise if you ever come to London, I can show you LSE! :cool:


-Matt
MattDell 02-15-2007 12:25 AM

Ok, I'm going to be the first one to bitch about this thread getting tucked into another sticky thread. This fiving sucks!
Wr4wrX 02-15-2007 02:11 AM

[IMG]http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2007str2/image/GEPA_full_1460_GEPA-13020-2[/IMG]

Is it just me or is it rather odd that the gold line on the racing suit lapel goes directly to Liuzzi's crotch?
STi/AE86 02-15-2007 03:18 AM

I can't wait any longer for F1!!!!! I need my fix! Reading F1 magazine religiously and watching a ton of F1 videos on YouTube is not cutting it!
TimStevens 02-15-2007 07:08 AM

Most racing suit zippers do.

[img]http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcgabe/05_Helimot/.full/05_Helimot_0011.jpg[/img]

But they're rarely highlighted in gold :)
Ferg 02-15-2007 08:42 AM

[QUOTE=MattDell;17059077]Ok, I'm going to be the first one to bitch about this thread getting tucked into another sticky thread. This fiving sucks![/QUOTE]

No kidding! :mad:

I may start have to start bitching about that in the mod forum after I get some coffee in me.
Indocti Discant 02-15-2007 09:11 AM

[quote=Ferg;17060694]No kidding! :mad:

I may start have to start bitching about that in the mod forum after I get some coffee in me.[/quote]

x2. i donno if i want to be talking about other motorsports in this thread.
Scooby South 02-15-2007 09:50 AM

Okay....heres a thought.....BOOKMARK this thread....Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh..
Ferg 02-15-2007 09:53 AM

Or just subscribe to it...

It's a pride issue dammit! :lol:
Scooby South 02-15-2007 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=Ferg;17061329]Or just subscribe to it...

It's a pride issue dammit! :lol:[/QUOTE]


That it is.....:lol:....([SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]Damn uppity Premadona F1 folks...[/COLOR][/SIZE]:lol:)
Ferg 02-15-2007 10:04 AM

Damn pragmatic down to Earth Autoxers! :lol:
Ferg 02-15-2007 10:04 AM

Roebuck on the engine freeze...

[QUOTE][B]Dear Nigel,

I don't understand how an engine freeze could be good for F1, the supposed pinnacle of motorsport. Sure, if there were a standard engine then everyone is on a level playing field. But to say that you cannot do anything to increase power for several years, only reliability, you're telling manufacturers that if they get it wrong then tough luck. It makes no sense and potentially guarantees the dominance of the sport by one or two teams for the next foreseeable future.

Amjid Salam[/B]

Dear Amjid,

Some resent what they see as attempts to 'dumb down' F1, and I understand that (even if I don't necessarily agree - or not on all counts, anyway), but be in no doubt: F1 remains emphatically the pinnacle of motor sport. If you don't believe me, take a close look at what else is out there. Have you seen an IRL car, for example?

If you're looking it, from a purist's point of view, then, yes, it's difficult to see how an 'engine freeze' can be good - I thought the same when the FIA introducing rules requiring one engine to be used for an entire race weekend, and then, later, for two. I still hate the fact that a driver gets penalised (to the tune of 10 grid positions) if he is unlucky enough to need an engine change.

However, still we have to bear in mind the costs of F1 technology, which are off the clock, and I do sympathise with the FIA's belief that technologies which cost a fortune and contribute nothing whatever to the fans' enjoyment of the sport (and, in some cases, detract from it) should be reined in.

Eighteen months ago, in an interview with Bernie Ecclestone, I asked him for his thoughts on this subject.

"Well," he said, "when you think that today these people's gear ratios last for 400kms...it's a bit cranky, really isn't it? You take one of those gearboxes to bits, and it's like a Swiss watch. But the guy sitting in the grandstand...he hasn't got the slightest idea about that - and if he did, he wouldn't care.

"Probably, if you went into the grandstand, and asked them, 'Do the cars have automatic or manual gearboxes?', most of them wouldn't know. If you asked them about most things, they wouldn't know - all they know is that, at the moment, the racing isn't as good as it should be.

"We have to save these people from spending astronomical amounts of money to be competitive. I wasn't in favour of reducing horsepower - bringing in the 2.4-litre V8, in place of the 3-litre V10 - but that's what we've got, that's what we're stuck with now. And eventually what we'll have to do now, probably, is limit the revs on the 2.4, because otherwise everyone's going to be spending endless millions to get another seven horsepower...

"In the same way, we're going to have to go to a single tyre supplier - if we don't, we're going to be in plenty of trouble. We have to reduce the necessity for so much testing - most of the teams are testing bloody endlessly, and it takes a big chunk out of their budgets. And a big proportion of that testing is just tyres, so we've got to reduce it - and that means one supplier..."

So here we are, at the beginning of the '07 season, and there's a rev limit of 19,000 and a single tyre supplier - Bridgestone. I'm not unsympathetic to what you're saying, Amjid, but when you say you fear that the sport may be dominated by one or two teams for the foreseeable future...well, how will that, in itself, be a change from what we've had in the last several years? [/QUOTE]
parker/slc/gc8fan 02-15-2007 02:46 PM

I do hate the motor rules.

And at least twenty other rules that seem to be just changing so that Max mosely can say he does somthing to help. When they actually make teams spend more money than what they are used to.
ArtGecko 02-15-2007 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=TimStevens;17056840]Kudos Stu.[/QUOTE]


I must be seriously getting stupid! I thought you said Sudoku, and I couldn't figure why?

Congratulations Stu!
Ferg 02-16-2007 10:00 AM

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="6"]29 days!!!![/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

:banana:
TimStevens 02-16-2007 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=Ferg;17075466][B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="6"]29 days!!!![/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

:banana:[/QUOTE]

:banana: I love it when F1 starts up on my birthday. Happens once every 7 years or so, and is a nice sort of extra present to me :)
Slick Nick 02-16-2007 05:38 PM

Day after my birthday for me! And it F1 starts when the quarter finishes so it will be a great way to celebrate being done with finals!!
StuBeck 02-16-2007 09:17 PM

W00t, it looks like I'm probably going to the Belgium GP too! Tickets are pretty cheap, so I'll leave for England a week and a half early and go around Germany and Paris after the race for a few days before school starts a week later.
MattDell 02-17-2007 09:01 AM

I hate you, Stu.
MattNJ2.8 02-17-2007 02:54 PM

Stu, can I put in a pic request? I'd like to see some pics of the area around the track, scenery, car clubs that meet at the race day, etc. I can only find pics of the track itself. Thanks!
StuBeck 02-17-2007 03:14 PM

Yeah, I'm definitely going to be taking a ton of pictures. At Indy this year I took about 500 pics a day, I'll get another 2 gig memory card by then so I can take some raw pics too.
ptclaus98 02-17-2007 06:00 PM

This will be the longest 4 weeks ever.:(


Seriously, would it hurt GP2 to start a couple of weeks early?
ptclaus98 02-17-2007 06:59 PM

WTLW or not I don't care. The bit with Prost(?) at :30 is classic.:lol:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bfya_Hk39c[/url]
rupertberr 02-17-2007 08:12 PM

WTLCentury, lets try 1957, but this is pretty cool, and it is not Monza:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-IJ0jXbnE&mode=related&search=[/url]
Mild7 02-17-2007 09:04 PM

I forgot Belgium was on the calendar this year. Can't wait!
sirfrankwilliams 02-17-2007 10:00 PM

<---- replaying 2006 Turkish GP right now.

[SIZE=1](Kimi crashes out :mad:)[/SIZE]
StuBeck 02-17-2007 11:08 PM

[QUOTE=ptclaus98;17089531]WTLW or not I don't care. The bit with Prost(?) at :30 is classic.:lol:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bfya_Hk39c[/url][/QUOTE]

That's Alesi :)
ptclaus98 02-18-2007 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=StuBeck;17091183]That's Alesi :)[/QUOTE]

Alesi drove for Ferrari? I need to do some more research.
ptclaus98 02-18-2007 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;17090732]<---- replaying 2006 Turkish GP right now.

[SIZE=1](Kimi crashes out :mad:)[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

I had 4.5 races on tape last year. I now have two.:mad:
StuBeck 02-18-2007 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=ptclaus98;17093200]Alesi drove for Ferrari? I need to do some more research.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Prost is in the video at 45seconds though.
artkevin 02-18-2007 10:39 AM

How can Derek Daily be that annoying in that little amount of time?
StuBeck 02-18-2007 10:39 AM

He opens his mouth?

I really hope his commentary career is over soon, he might be a nice guy, but he is annoying as hell whenever he talks.
artkevin 02-18-2007 11:54 AM

He is a nice guy and has some really good cred. He doesn't bother me as much when he covers Champ Car but when he covers F1 I want to jump through the screen and strangle him.
ptclaus98 02-18-2007 12:48 PM

[QUOTE=artkevin;17093733]He is a nice guy and has some really good cred. He doesn't bother me as much when he covers Champ Car but when he covers F1 I want to jump through the screen and strangle him.[/QUOTE]

I was watching Stars of Karting yesterday and he was the analyst.:furious:
xennon 02-18-2007 01:07 PM

"Honda to go green in 2007"

What do you guys thinking about this color? :)
sirfrankwilliams 02-18-2007 01:18 PM

One year at the CART race at Laguna, Derek Daily shoved my wife out of the way almost knocking her over in his little leprechaun hurry to get to the podium after the race. :furious: He can't go away soon enough.


[SIZE=1]<---- watching Italian GP 06 as I transfer from TiVO to DVD.[/SIZE]
ptclaus98 02-18-2007 02:06 PM

[QUOTE]Jacques attacks Kimi, Fisi and Kubica

Former World Champion Jacques Villeneuve has launched a scathing attack on the attitude of Kimi Raikkonen and the ability of Giancarlo Fisichella.

Famed for his outspokenness, Villeneuve is in particularly feisty mood for his appraisal of the 2007 grid in the latest edition of F1 Racing Magazine. However, it's Villeneuve's denouncement of Raikkonen, Michael Schumacher's replacement at Ferrari, as "overrated as a driver package" that will capture the most attention.

According to the French/Canadian, Raikkonen isn't on a par with World Champion Fernando Alonso because of his slovenly work ethic. "Apart from jumping in a car and going fast, he really doesn't care about the rest," declares Jacques. "A complete driver will spend time with the engineers, setting up the team and pushing the team. He doesn't give a s**t, so he isn't up there with Alonso."

The deficiency is so damaging, claims Villeneuve, that both Jenson Button and Felipe Massa will offer Alonso a tougher fight for the World Championship. Villeneuve may have been critical of his former team-mates in the past but it is clear that both Massa and Button have since earned his respect.

"He's fast, strong and nothing disturbs him," Jacques says of the Honda man. "But he'll have to be in a position to take a shot at the championship if we're to see if he is as good as Alonso. That's highly probable, because he's at least as good as Kimi."

As for Massa, Villeneuve believes that he will emerge as Ferrari's lead driver in 2007.

"He's intelligent, talented quick. With the right equipment, he can be a title contender. Then we'll see if he's really a great, or just a good, driver. But he could be great.

"Massa will probably take over as team leader. He and Kimi will definitely challenge each other, but Felipe should finish ahead because of his work ethic."

To his evident sadness, Villeneuve is not so complimentary about Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella. "I want to be positive about Fisi because he's a nice guy...but he just doesn't cut it. He's done. Even if he beats Heikki [Kovalainen], I don't think he's got anywhere to go. He's there as a benchmark for Heikki, and then at the end of the season, or even halfway through, they'll put Nelson Piquet Jr in the car."

But there's no such reluctance on Villeneuve's behalf to disparage Robert Kubica, the driver who replaced him at BMW last season. With just the faintest trace of bitterness, Jacques notes: "Kubica is fast but made a mistake in every race last year. Any driver who makes a mistake in almost every race is driving too fast for themselves.

"And he's very hard on his machinery, and I don't think he'll be capable of changing his driving style enough to suit the harder Bridgestones. If he can be more gentle, then he could be up there. But it'll get really interesting from 2008 when he goes without traction control."

As we said, just the faintest trace of bitterness.

What Jacques Says About The Other Drivers

On Nick Heidfeld: "He's a team driver and a hard worker. Sometimes too hard. There comes a point where you just have to go to bed."

On Rubens Barrichello: "Rubens is better than he showed last year. He just couldn't adapt to the car, and every driver can have that."

On David Coulthard: "The way he speaks is amazing...He should be running a country or something."

On Lewis Hamilton: "A very nice character...He's quick but green."

On Jarno Trulli: "I think he's overly tense and wears himself out when he doesn't need to."

On Tonio Liuzzi: "Nothing special...I don't see how he can be perceived as a serious driver."

On Scott Speed: "He hasn't shown anything to justify his place in F1."

On Christijan Albers: "A nasty, dirty driver."

On recovering crashaholic Takuma Sato: "At Aguri, he's stopped doing stupid things, but only by driving slower." [/QUOTE]

Oh, Jacques!:lol:
REX8 02-18-2007 03:15 PM

^^^ he's an azz sure,

But do you really think he's that far off?
ptclaus98 02-18-2007 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=REX8;17095084]^^^ he's an azz sure,

But do you really think he's that far off?[/QUOTE]

Nope. Except for Kubica he's spot on. It's the last segment that I'm talking about.
MattDell 02-18-2007 04:14 PM

I'm surprised he said Button is just as good as Raikkonen. I'm a big Button supporter, but I've never really thought that.


And on Hamilton, what does he mean when he says he's "green"?
REX8 02-18-2007 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=MattDell;17095536]I'm surprised he said Button is just as good as Raikkonen. I'm a big Button supporter, but I've never really thought that.


And on Hamilton, what does he mean when he says he's "green"?[/QUOTE]

Green = new, inexperienced
sirfrankwilliams 02-18-2007 04:39 PM

JV = bitter washed up has-been
[SIZE=1]and his music sucks too[/SIZE]
:rolleyes:
MattNJ2.8 02-18-2007 04:42 PM

Jacques = old, bitter, and washed up. Plus, his album sucks.
sirfrankwilliams 02-18-2007 05:00 PM

we forgot, ugly and smells bad!
:lol:
nick735 02-18-2007 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=sirfrankwilliams;17095726]JV = bitter washed up has-been
[SIZE=1]and his music sucks too[/SIZE]
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Yea JV is also the guy that says people wont remember Schumacher 20 years from now :lol: You can take whatever he says and flip it to its exact opposite, and then you get the truth.

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