| rupertberr | 04-20-2007 02:09 AM |
After watching some of those old videos I tried to track down some of the greatest moments in F1 via youtube and found most of my favorites. The older stuff was real hard to find and some of the footage isn't the greatest but you'll get the idea. Enjoy!
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Fangio breaks track record 10 laps in a row, erases 53 second deficit to win his last F1 race at age 46 Nuburgring 1957
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYoRO_uroM0[/url]
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Villeneuve v Arnoux Dijon 1979
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzCqY8Wg5So[/url]
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Clark from 1 lap down v Brabham v Surtees, considered Clark's greatest race but the result isn't what you expect Monza 1967
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGjVZACb3B0[/url]
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Prost v Piquet v Mansell v Rosberg v Senna in one of the greatest championship deciders ever. Australia 1986
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IezOHcmhWVM[/url]
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Rindt v Beltoise v Stewart v McLaren in another incredible Monza finish 1969
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64QSo9edq8[/url]
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Senna v Piquet Hungary 1986
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg2fZ4ASHDs[/url]
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Senna opening lap at Donnington 1993
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkb51nahylQ[/url]
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Hakkinen v Schumacher Spa 2000
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHp37wddxs4[/url]
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Senna v Alesi Phoenix 1990
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEZEFZArU_M[/url]
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Rindt v 44 year old Brabham last lap Monaco 1970
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2v4A_y4VI[/url]
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Fangio breaks track record 10 laps in a row, erases 53 second deficit to win his last F1 race at age 46 Nuburgring 1957
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYoRO_uroM0[/url]
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Villeneuve v Arnoux Dijon 1979
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzCqY8Wg5So[/url]
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Clark from 1 lap down v Brabham v Surtees, considered Clark's greatest race but the result isn't what you expect Monza 1967
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGjVZACb3B0[/url]
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Prost v Piquet v Mansell v Rosberg v Senna in one of the greatest championship deciders ever. Australia 1986
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IezOHcmhWVM[/url]
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Rindt v Beltoise v Stewart v McLaren in another incredible Monza finish 1969
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64QSo9edq8[/url]
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Senna v Piquet Hungary 1986
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg2fZ4ASHDs[/url]
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Senna opening lap at Donnington 1993
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkb51nahylQ[/url]
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Hakkinen v Schumacher Spa 2000
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHp37wddxs4[/url]
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Senna v Alesi Phoenix 1990
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEZEFZArU_M[/url]
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Rindt v 44 year old Brabham last lap Monaco 1970
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2v4A_y4VI[/url]
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| rupertberr | 04-20-2007 11:00 AM |
Here are a couple more cool videos.
Monza 1957. Cars back then with no wings had a top speed in the high 180's but with drum brake and skinny tires they couldn't stop or turn very well.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0HP52IFh4[/url]
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Two of my favorites: Fangio v Brabham 20 years later, pretty cool
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeQ_jVjBvg4[/url]
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My first F1 race in person. All the passes happened right in front of me.:)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bZYuT48Nok[/url]
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Alternative versions of Villeneuve v Arnoux
David Hobbs:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_6mA8Q2tI[/url]
German with emotion, listen to the press room, best sound:
[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIJuqUsj7zA[/url]
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Never say die. Villeneuve on three wheels
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnpf_9bAUu8[/url]
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Nurburgring 1956:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1mafuSYphc[/url]
Ok, now get back to work! :D
Monza 1957. Cars back then with no wings had a top speed in the high 180's but with drum brake and skinny tires they couldn't stop or turn very well.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0HP52IFh4[/url]
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Two of my favorites: Fangio v Brabham 20 years later, pretty cool
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeQ_jVjBvg4[/url]
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My first F1 race in person. All the passes happened right in front of me.:)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bZYuT48Nok[/url]
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Alternative versions of Villeneuve v Arnoux
David Hobbs:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_6mA8Q2tI[/url]
German with emotion, listen to the press room, best sound:
[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIJuqUsj7zA[/url]
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Never say die. Villeneuve on three wheels
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnpf_9bAUu8[/url]
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Nurburgring 1956:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1mafuSYphc[/url]
Ok, now get back to work! :D
| sirfrankwilliams | 04-20-2007 11:50 AM |
OMG, I love youtube.
Wow, thanks for gathering all these clips for us. :banana:
Wow, thanks for gathering all these clips for us. :banana:
| wvallwheeldrive | 04-20-2007 07:33 PM |
wow cars where a lot tougher back then Arnoux and Villeneuve banging each other like mad men. Do that now and you would be labeled Juan Pablo Montoya.
| OnTheGas | 04-20-2007 07:53 PM |
Bridgestone announces tires compounds for next few races
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According to this [URL="http://www.formula1.com/news/5985.html"]press release from Bridgestone[/URL], here are the Bridgestone tire compounds for the first nine rounds:[LIST=1][*]Australia - Soft & Medium[*]Malaysia - Medium & Hard[*]Bahrain - Medium & Hard[*]Spain - Medium & Hard[*]Monaco - Super soft, & Soft[*]Canada - Super soft, & Soft[*]US - Soft, & Medium[*]France - Soft, & Medium[*]Britain - Medium, & Hard[/LIST]
| OnTheGas | 04-21-2007 01:06 PM |
The testing days in Spain...
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Pardon the dumb questions...
I know the teams will be testing in Spain before the next GP, but I can't remember which track... Valencia, or Barcelona?
Also, what days are they testing?
I know the teams will be testing in Spain before the next GP, but I can't remember which track... Valencia, or Barcelona?
Also, what days are they testing?
| Ferg | 04-21-2007 01:13 PM |
Barcelona, April 30th thru May 2nd. :)
| artkevin | 04-24-2007 10:30 AM |
[B]Former Ferrari employees in jail[/B]
24 April 2007
Two former employees of the Ferrari Formula 1 team faced trial on Monday and were found guilty. The duo stole Ferrari's software and brought it with them to their new office in Cologne at Toyota F1.
According to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport the two Italians will be taken to jail. One will have to go behind bars for nine months, the other for one year and four months.
24 April 2007
Two former employees of the Ferrari Formula 1 team faced trial on Monday and were found guilty. The duo stole Ferrari's software and brought it with them to their new office in Cologne at Toyota F1.
According to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport the two Italians will be taken to jail. One will have to go behind bars for nine months, the other for one year and four months.
| rupertberr | 04-24-2007 11:03 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;17833523][B]Former Ferrari employees in jail[/B]
24 April 2007
Two former employees of the Ferrari Formula 1 team faced trial on Monday and were found guilty. The duo stole Ferrari's software and brought it with them to their new office in Cologne at Toyota F1.
According to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport the two Italians will be taken to jail. One will have to go behind bars for nine months, the other for one year and four months.[/QUOTE]
..and it still didn't help Toyota!
24 April 2007
Two former employees of the Ferrari Formula 1 team faced trial on Monday and were found guilty. The duo stole Ferrari's software and brought it with them to their new office in Cologne at Toyota F1.
According to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport the two Italians will be taken to jail. One will have to go behind bars for nine months, the other for one year and four months.[/QUOTE]
..and it still didn't help Toyota!
| StuBeck | 04-24-2007 02:25 PM |
They went from 10th to 9th :p
Bernie bought Turkey, and its confirmed for another 15 years.
Bernie bought Turkey, and its confirmed for another 15 years.
| Wr4wrX | 04-25-2007 01:40 AM |
This is an interesting perspective on customer cars. It takes the entire article to get to the point, but it's an opinion I haven't previously heard.
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[B]Why life should be tough for the 11th and 12th F1 teams[/B]
It is not easy being at the back of the Formula 1 grid and many a team has failed to survive and been sold on as a result of the problem. The major reason for this is that being outside the top 10 in the Constructors' World Championship means that a team does not get any of the commercial benefits that are on offer from the Formula One group. This includes a share of the TV money and reduced transport costs. This is why there are such hard-fought battles for seemingly unimportant places at the back of the field as a ninth or even 10th place can be worth millions of dollars if it results in a team getting into the top 10 at the end of the year.
The last two teams on the F1 grid have to pay their own way and this means that they have disproportionally-high costs. This makes sure that only teams that are serious about being in F1 survive and that there are no teams who cruise along at the back and make money just by being there. If money was available for all 12 teams this incentive would disappear.
The high failure rate at the back end of the F1 grid means that newcomers can get a foothold in F1 but they must then go on from that to climb out of the danger zone and onto the real F1 ladder. They may not do any better than their predecessors but at least they are trying and this means that those who are successful have earned their spurs in F1.
In many ways, therefore, this is a better system than the traditional franchise arrangement one sees in other sports.
There are, however, other more subtle reasons why there are 12 teams but with only 10 being paid.
As part of its deal with the FIA, FOM guarantees to provide 20 cars for every race. Having the two extra teams means that FOM has a couple of teams to plug the holes if a top team has to drop out. This is a useful buffer. If all 12 teams were covered by the promotional contract, the loss of a team would be an instant breach of contract, which is not the kind of deal that FOM is likely to accept in the future.
While one has a certain amount of sympathy with the struggling teams, it is a trial through which many have been before them and why the introduction of customer cars may not be the answer that some of its supporters think it is.
[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19069.html[/url]
[Quote]
[B]Why life should be tough for the 11th and 12th F1 teams[/B]
It is not easy being at the back of the Formula 1 grid and many a team has failed to survive and been sold on as a result of the problem. The major reason for this is that being outside the top 10 in the Constructors' World Championship means that a team does not get any of the commercial benefits that are on offer from the Formula One group. This includes a share of the TV money and reduced transport costs. This is why there are such hard-fought battles for seemingly unimportant places at the back of the field as a ninth or even 10th place can be worth millions of dollars if it results in a team getting into the top 10 at the end of the year.
The last two teams on the F1 grid have to pay their own way and this means that they have disproportionally-high costs. This makes sure that only teams that are serious about being in F1 survive and that there are no teams who cruise along at the back and make money just by being there. If money was available for all 12 teams this incentive would disappear.
The high failure rate at the back end of the F1 grid means that newcomers can get a foothold in F1 but they must then go on from that to climb out of the danger zone and onto the real F1 ladder. They may not do any better than their predecessors but at least they are trying and this means that those who are successful have earned their spurs in F1.
In many ways, therefore, this is a better system than the traditional franchise arrangement one sees in other sports.
There are, however, other more subtle reasons why there are 12 teams but with only 10 being paid.
As part of its deal with the FIA, FOM guarantees to provide 20 cars for every race. Having the two extra teams means that FOM has a couple of teams to plug the holes if a top team has to drop out. This is a useful buffer. If all 12 teams were covered by the promotional contract, the loss of a team would be an instant breach of contract, which is not the kind of deal that FOM is likely to accept in the future.
While one has a certain amount of sympathy with the struggling teams, it is a trial through which many have been before them and why the introduction of customer cars may not be the answer that some of its supporters think it is.
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Source: [url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19069.html[/url]
| Ferg | 04-25-2007 10:25 AM |
Bah!!!!!
[QUOTE][B]Heidfeld's wings clipped for Ring run
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By Jonathan Noble and Pablo Elizalde Wednesday, April 25th 2007, 09:01 GMT
Nick Heidfeld admits he is disappointed he will not be allowed to show his speed when he tackles Nurburgring's legendary Nordschleife circuit next Saturday.
The BMW Sauber driver will be the man in charge of driving a Formula One car for the first time in 31 years around the 22-km historic track, in an event organised by BMW Motorsport.
Heidfeld will use this year's F1.07 car, but fitted with Bridgestone demonstration tyres, which are about 10 seconds slower than those used in the races.
The German admits he feels sorry he will not be allowed to go for it.
"BMW doesn't want me to go that fast � they are a bit worried about the circuit," said Heidfeld. "But I am a racing driver - I cannot go slow! I'm looking forward to it but I'm disappointed I have to use Bridgestone demonstration tyres.
"When we ran them in Melbourne, they were about 10 seconds a lap slower than regular tyres. Obviously, there's no grip.
"I don't know the track well but I know it. I've driven it a few times in a normal road car and I've played it a bit on the computer. I never did a race there so I'm not an expert at all.
"I'm really looking forward to it � it's going to be fantastic. But again, I would like to have normal tyres."
Despite knowing he will not be allowed to drive as fast as he can, Heidfeld says he is really eager to enjoy the experience.
"I just like the idea of driving on such a fantastic track, he added. "And I like driving in strange places � I drove on ice over the winter. So it's fun to do something different. The Pitlane Park is pretty cool.
"And sometimes we do pitstop demos on the street. I just like the idea of going to strange places with a Formula One car."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Heidfeld's wings clipped for Ring run
[/B]
By Jonathan Noble and Pablo Elizalde Wednesday, April 25th 2007, 09:01 GMT
Nick Heidfeld admits he is disappointed he will not be allowed to show his speed when he tackles Nurburgring's legendary Nordschleife circuit next Saturday.
The BMW Sauber driver will be the man in charge of driving a Formula One car for the first time in 31 years around the 22-km historic track, in an event organised by BMW Motorsport.
Heidfeld will use this year's F1.07 car, but fitted with Bridgestone demonstration tyres, which are about 10 seconds slower than those used in the races.
The German admits he feels sorry he will not be allowed to go for it.
"BMW doesn't want me to go that fast � they are a bit worried about the circuit," said Heidfeld. "But I am a racing driver - I cannot go slow! I'm looking forward to it but I'm disappointed I have to use Bridgestone demonstration tyres.
"When we ran them in Melbourne, they were about 10 seconds a lap slower than regular tyres. Obviously, there's no grip.
"I don't know the track well but I know it. I've driven it a few times in a normal road car and I've played it a bit on the computer. I never did a race there so I'm not an expert at all.
"I'm really looking forward to it � it's going to be fantastic. But again, I would like to have normal tyres."
Despite knowing he will not be allowed to drive as fast as he can, Heidfeld says he is really eager to enjoy the experience.
"I just like the idea of driving on such a fantastic track, he added. "And I like driving in strange places � I drove on ice over the winter. So it's fun to do something different. The Pitlane Park is pretty cool.
"And sometimes we do pitstop demos on the street. I just like the idea of going to strange places with a Formula One car."[/QUOTE]
| artkevin | 04-25-2007 10:51 AM |
10 seconds slower over what? The entire Ring? Thats not [I]that [/I]bad really.
| John__Gotti | 04-25-2007 11:15 AM |
No they were 10 seconds slower at Melboure. My guess is that they will probably be about a minute slower on the ring. Was hoping they wouldn't disable him as much as they are oing to but still will put down a pretty sick time. Looking forward to seeing the video of this run.
| Dogbert2 | 04-25-2007 11:18 AM |
I think he meant ten seconds per lap in Melbourne.
EDIT: What Mr. Gotti said above.
EDIT: What Mr. Gotti said above.
| Ferg | 04-25-2007 11:22 AM |
Well Heidfeld's fastest lap in Melbourne was a 1m25.358s in the second round of quali. Albert Park is 5.303km, the Nordschleife is 22.810km. Assuming Heidfeld did around a 1m35 on the demo tyres he averaged something like a kilometer every 18 seconds or so. If he managed the same pace around the Ring he'd be in under seven minutes... Then again I completely suck at math so someone do some proofing please :lol:
Somehow I doubt he'll be able to commit to that sort of pace on demostration tyres, a shot in the dark setup, and strict orders not to stuff the car.
Still, can't wait for the video! :D
Somehow I doubt he'll be able to commit to that sort of pace on demostration tyres, a shot in the dark setup, and strict orders not to stuff the car.
Still, can't wait for the video! :D
| StuBeck | 04-25-2007 11:35 AM |
[QUOTE=Wr4wrX;17845403]This is an interesting perspective on customer cars. It takes the entire article to get to the point, but it's an opinion I haven't previously heard.
Source: [url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19069.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Bernie is talking about giving money to everyone, which I think is good, since the manufactuer teams don't really need the money.
Source: [url]http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19069.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Bernie is talking about giving money to everyone, which I think is good, since the manufactuer teams don't really need the money.
| wvallwheeldrive | 04-25-2007 12:23 PM |
i think paying everyone would be a bad idea, then people won't have to try and keep up and turn into back markers ahla nascar to collect a paycheck (just making a race in NASCAR will support a team for 3 or 4 races)
| rupertberr | 04-25-2007 12:33 PM |
It's been a long time since I saw this and I don't know if they still do it this way but F1 used to have a pay chart that paid the top twenty in proportion to position at quarter distance, half distance, three quarters and final finishing position during the race. They are always very secretive about pay out and I can't remember where I saw this chart, probably at least ten years ago. What stood out to me at the time was that the final finishing positions didn't pay out much more then at quarter distance. Obviously if you led from start to finish you did pretty well.
| wvallwheeldrive | 04-25-2007 12:36 PM |
i think they should pay for most postions gained during the race. Back marker teamswould really be fighting then
| StuBeck | 04-25-2007 07:39 PM |
[QUOTE=wvallwheeldrive;17849364]i think paying everyone would be a bad idea, then people won't have to try and keep up and turn into back markers ahla nascar to collect a paycheck (just making a race in NASCAR will support a team for 3 or 4 races)[/QUOTE]
The teams will still try. This isn't like NASCAR NC because it costs more to run a race then you make from the winnings. The other big thing is that in NASCAR you can run only one race a year, you can't do that in F1. Teams aren't going to just run to get the winnings, it doesn't make economical sense.
[QUOTE=rupertberr;17849496]It's been a long time since I saw this and I don't know if they still do it this way but F1 used to have a pay chart that paid the top twenty in proportion to position at quarter distance, half distance, three quarters and final finishing position during the race. They are always very secretive about pay out and I can't remember where I saw this chart, probably at least ten years ago. What stood out to me at the time was that the final finishing positions didn't pay out much more then at quarter distance. Obviously if you led from start to finish you did pretty well.[/QUOTE]
That was in F1 Racing last year at some point. I remember the same thing so it makes sense that would be part of the rules. It would be interesting if they let out the concorde agreement at the end of the year when its no long valid.
The teams will still try. This isn't like NASCAR NC because it costs more to run a race then you make from the winnings. The other big thing is that in NASCAR you can run only one race a year, you can't do that in F1. Teams aren't going to just run to get the winnings, it doesn't make economical sense.
[QUOTE=rupertberr;17849496]It's been a long time since I saw this and I don't know if they still do it this way but F1 used to have a pay chart that paid the top twenty in proportion to position at quarter distance, half distance, three quarters and final finishing position during the race. They are always very secretive about pay out and I can't remember where I saw this chart, probably at least ten years ago. What stood out to me at the time was that the final finishing positions didn't pay out much more then at quarter distance. Obviously if you led from start to finish you did pretty well.[/QUOTE]
That was in F1 Racing last year at some point. I remember the same thing so it makes sense that would be part of the rules. It would be interesting if they let out the concorde agreement at the end of the year when its no long valid.
| rupertberr | 04-25-2007 07:49 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;17855880]
That was in F1 Racing last year at some point. I remember the same thing so it makes sense that would be part of the rules. It would be interesting if they let out the concorde agreement at the end of the year when its no long valid.[/QUOTE]
I know the version I saw was a loooooong time ago. Interesting to know it is still in effect. I seem to remember there also was no payout for qualifying positions. Is that still the same?
That was in F1 Racing last year at some point. I remember the same thing so it makes sense that would be part of the rules. It would be interesting if they let out the concorde agreement at the end of the year when its no long valid.[/QUOTE]
I know the version I saw was a loooooong time ago. Interesting to know it is still in effect. I seem to remember there also was no payout for qualifying positions. Is that still the same?
| artkevin | 04-27-2007 03:21 PM |
Classy Nick not so classy Howett
[B]Heidfeld holds back after Howett insult[/B]
[I]Happy to let his driving do the talking
27/04/07 10:11 [/I]
Heidfeld steering clear of Toyota taunts
Nick Heidfeld has refused to respond to the insult of a Toyota boss, after John Howett said the German driver belongs no higher in Formula One than the 'upper midfield'.
"With him, we would not improve," Team President Howett recently told Sport Bild.
Howett's comments follow the speculation that the Cologne based squad might be contemplating signing Heidfeld - who has an expiring BMW Sauber contract - as a replacement for the embattled Ralf Schumacher in 2008 and beyond.
But even though it appears that Heidfeld can now strike the Japanese team off his list of potential suitors, he refused to rise to the bait of firing back at the hugely-financed outfit that in nearly six years has failed to win a Grand Prix.
Heidfeld said: "I know what I can do.
"I would rather keep driving quickly than try to respond with my mouth."
Source GMM
CAPSIS International
[B]Heidfeld holds back after Howett insult[/B]
[I]Happy to let his driving do the talking
27/04/07 10:11 [/I]
Heidfeld steering clear of Toyota taunts
Nick Heidfeld has refused to respond to the insult of a Toyota boss, after John Howett said the German driver belongs no higher in Formula One than the 'upper midfield'.
"With him, we would not improve," Team President Howett recently told Sport Bild.
Howett's comments follow the speculation that the Cologne based squad might be contemplating signing Heidfeld - who has an expiring BMW Sauber contract - as a replacement for the embattled Ralf Schumacher in 2008 and beyond.
But even though it appears that Heidfeld can now strike the Japanese team off his list of potential suitors, he refused to rise to the bait of firing back at the hugely-financed outfit that in nearly six years has failed to win a Grand Prix.
Heidfeld said: "I know what I can do.
"I would rather keep driving quickly than try to respond with my mouth."
Source GMM
CAPSIS International
| wvallwheeldrive | 04-27-2007 03:51 PM |
boy toyota has a lot of room to talk about drivers while they pay Ralfie eleventybillion dollars a year to suck like he does.
| StuBeck | 04-27-2007 06:21 PM |
[QUOTE=rupertberr;17856013]I know the version I saw was a loooooong time ago. Interesting to know it is still in effect. I seem to remember there also was no payout for qualifying positions. Is that still the same?[/QUOTE]
It is a part of the concorde agreement, so its probably still the same since it hasn't really changed much since 78. The amounts given for positions were probably percentages so they could work well in the 20 years it was in effect.
It is a part of the concorde agreement, so its probably still the same since it hasn't really changed much since 78. The amounts given for positions were probably percentages so they could work well in the 20 years it was in effect.
| MattNJ2.8 | 04-27-2007 10:06 PM |
[QUOTE=wvallwheeldrive;17880987]boy toyota has a lot of room to talk about drivers while they pay Ralfie eleventybillion dollars a year to suck like he does.[/QUOTE]
Amen.
LOL @ Toyota
Amen.
LOL @ Toyota
| StuBeck | 04-28-2007 12:18 AM |
The other thing with Toyota, have they not realized they are part of the lower midfield? They haven't finished well at all, ever.
| Ferg | 04-29-2007 08:16 AM |
Nick at the Ring.
[QUOTE][B]BMW bring F1 back to the 'Ring
[/B]
Saturday, April 28th 2007, 17:35 GMT
Contemporary Formula One machinery returned to the Nurburgring Nordschleife for the first time in 31 years today, as Nick Heidfeld demonstrated his BMW Sauber F1.06 around the legendary 20.8km track.
The German was instructed to slow for photographic purposes several times on each of his three laps of the track, so his 8:34 lap time was not representative of a modern F1 car's potential on the circuit.
But apart from using harder tyres and an increased ride height, the F1.06 was in full race specification.
"This drive was simply incredible," said Heidfeld. "I thought it would be great to drive on the Nordschleife before I started out. But it was even better than I had expected.
"This racing track is the best in the world. I'd really like to have emptied the tank. It was a very special moment when I left the grand prix circuit in the direction of the Nordschleife."
Heidfeld achieved a top speed of 275 km/h on the long Dottinger Hohe straight.
"I was really shaken up at the Bergwerk section and on the Dottinger Hohe," he said.
"I'll never forget today as long as I live. Another particularly special experience has now joined the many fantastic childhood memories and racing successes."
Team boss Mario Theissen reiterated that the event had always been intended as a 'tribute' to the legendary track rather than an attempt to set a new lap record..
"We had implored him to be careful," said Theissen.
"The day was a homage to the fans and to this unique circuit in the world of racing. For once, the lap times were a secondary consideration."[/QUOTE]
And there's already some videos up on [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIqXc4bf6U]->teh YouTube<-[/URL] :D
[QUOTE][B]BMW bring F1 back to the 'Ring
[/B]
Saturday, April 28th 2007, 17:35 GMT
Contemporary Formula One machinery returned to the Nurburgring Nordschleife for the first time in 31 years today, as Nick Heidfeld demonstrated his BMW Sauber F1.06 around the legendary 20.8km track.
The German was instructed to slow for photographic purposes several times on each of his three laps of the track, so his 8:34 lap time was not representative of a modern F1 car's potential on the circuit.
But apart from using harder tyres and an increased ride height, the F1.06 was in full race specification.
"This drive was simply incredible," said Heidfeld. "I thought it would be great to drive on the Nordschleife before I started out. But it was even better than I had expected.
"This racing track is the best in the world. I'd really like to have emptied the tank. It was a very special moment when I left the grand prix circuit in the direction of the Nordschleife."
Heidfeld achieved a top speed of 275 km/h on the long Dottinger Hohe straight.
"I was really shaken up at the Bergwerk section and on the Dottinger Hohe," he said.
"I'll never forget today as long as I live. Another particularly special experience has now joined the many fantastic childhood memories and racing successes."
Team boss Mario Theissen reiterated that the event had always been intended as a 'tribute' to the legendary track rather than an attempt to set a new lap record..
"We had implored him to be careful," said Theissen.
"The day was a homage to the fans and to this unique circuit in the world of racing. For once, the lap times were a secondary consideration."[/QUOTE]
And there's already some videos up on [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIqXc4bf6U]->teh YouTube<-[/URL] :D
| mac35 | 04-29-2007 02:16 PM |
What's the track record I wonder?
| Ferg | 04-29-2007 02:42 PM |
I think it's still the six minutes and change set by the late great Stephan Bellof in a Porsche 956 back in the eighties during the height of the WSC wars.
Can't imagine it honestly, that's just scary fast.
Can't imagine it honestly, that's just scary fast.
| jailbreak | 04-29-2007 11:42 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;17896265]I think it's still the six minutes and change set by the late great Stephan Bellof in a Porsche 956 back in the eighties during the height of the WSC wars.
Can't imagine it honestly, that's just scary fast.[/QUOTE]
What did Yellow Bird run?
Can't imagine it honestly, that's just scary fast.[/QUOTE]
What did Yellow Bird run?
| artkevin | 04-30-2007 09:36 AM |
McLaren's new front wing
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73021.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73021.jpg[/IMG]
| RALLYT-WRX | 04-30-2007 09:38 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;17903462]McLaren's new front wing
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73021.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Is that Legal?
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73021.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Is that Legal?
| StuBeck | 04-30-2007 10:08 AM |
If they're thinking about running it, it must be, its probably already been crash tested.
| RALLYT-WRX | 04-30-2007 10:21 AM |
I'll be curious to see if it moves up and down at all under load.
| artkevin | 04-30-2007 10:21 AM |
Yeah, Ron Dennis and his lawyers have probably looked over the rule book with a microscope. I doubt they would waste their money and time if it was illegal, at least the way they read the rule book.
| Ferg | 04-30-2007 10:22 AM |
[QUOTE=jailbreak;17900755]What did Yellow Bird run?[/QUOTE]
Certainly not 6m11s...8m22s.
Certainly not 6m11s...8m22s.
| Ferg | 04-30-2007 10:22 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;17903915]Yeah, Ron Dennis and his lawyers have probably looked over the rule book with a microscope. I doubt they would waste their money and time if it was illegal, at least the way they read the rule book.[/QUOTE]
Fiddle-brake?
Fiddle-brake?
| artkevin | 04-30-2007 11:40 AM |
Was that the 2nd brake pedal thing?
From what I understand, it wasn't "illegal" by which it wasn't stated that they couldn't use it (worst English sentence ever). Same with exotic medals. I could be 100% wrong. Ferg, you'd know more then I would.
From what I understand, it wasn't "illegal" by which it wasn't stated that they couldn't use it (worst English sentence ever). Same with exotic medals. I could be 100% wrong. Ferg, you'd know more then I would.
| Ferg | 04-30-2007 11:57 AM |
I think it fell under the "it's only illegal once we find out about it" category, along with mass dampers, moving wings, water-cooled brakes.
I do remember the photographer who snapped the pic of the extra brake pedal [URL=http://www.darrenheath.com](Darren Heath)[/URL] is forever on Ron Dennis' ****llist. :lol:
I do remember the photographer who snapped the pic of the extra brake pedal [URL=http://www.darrenheath.com](Darren Heath)[/URL] is forever on Ron Dennis' ****llist. :lol:
| StuBeck | 04-30-2007 12:00 PM |
[QUOTE=RALLYT-WRX;17903904]I'll be curious to see if it moves up and down at all under load.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it, the wings don't move much as it is, and it seems to be fairly strong, as opposed to the wing the FW26 had, where they were very thin.
[QUOTE=artkevin;17904800]Was that the 2nd brake pedal thing?
From what I understand, it wasn't "illegal" by which it wasn't stated that they couldn't use it (worst English sentence ever). Same with exotic medals. I could be 100% wrong. Ferg, you'd know more then I would.[/QUOTE]
Metal :p
It wasn't really illegal, but one of those things the FIA banned rather quickly because they didn't like it. Same thing with the wing that Jordan ran at monaco in 02. It wasn't illegal (awkwardly so, considering wings were banned in 69,) in fact, they crash tested it. But they thought it was ugly so they banned it. Sort of like the splitters BMW ran last year.
I doubt it, the wings don't move much as it is, and it seems to be fairly strong, as opposed to the wing the FW26 had, where they were very thin.
[QUOTE=artkevin;17904800]Was that the 2nd brake pedal thing?
From what I understand, it wasn't "illegal" by which it wasn't stated that they couldn't use it (worst English sentence ever). Same with exotic medals. I could be 100% wrong. Ferg, you'd know more then I would.[/QUOTE]
Metal :p
It wasn't really illegal, but one of those things the FIA banned rather quickly because they didn't like it. Same thing with the wing that Jordan ran at monaco in 02. It wasn't illegal (awkwardly so, considering wings were banned in 69,) in fact, they crash tested it. But they thought it was ugly so they banned it. Sort of like the splitters BMW ran last year.
| artkevin | 04-30-2007 12:24 PM |
Yes, metals. Dammit
Fan car much?
[IMG]http://es.motorfull.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/2001_Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed_Brabham_BT46B_Fan_car.jpg[/IMG]
Fan car much?
[IMG]http://es.motorfull.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/2001_Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed_Brabham_BT46B_Fan_car.jpg[/IMG]
| Ferg | 04-30-2007 01:25 PM |
It's only for cooling dammit!
Barcelona, Day One.
[QUOTE][B]Raikkonen fastest at Barcelona[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 30th 2007, 16:49 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen signalled Ferrari's continued strength with a dominant display on the opening day of testing at Barcelona on Monday.
The Ferrari driver, who is joint leader of the world championship with Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton, was six tenths of a second faster than Takuma Sato in the Super Aguri.
Sato was one of the surprises of the day, with his team trying out new aero parts and, perhaps most significantly, a new gearbox upgrade from Honda on the SA07 that should be introduced for the Spanish Grand Prix.
The Japanese driver completed his fastest run of the day in qualifying trim.
McLaren caused one of the biggest stirs of the day when they began evaluation of a new radical front wing that featured a high plane element over the top of the nose.
The team ran the MP4-22 with and without the new design to evaluate its effectiveness, as Pedro de la Rosa set the third fastest time.
Sources have suggested that the team were impressed with the new wing during straightline testing with it in Menorca last week and, although preliminary impressions were good in Barcelona today, further work will be conducted on it for the remainder of the week.
"We did some work on the aerodynamics, continuing the work from Menorca and there is a small improvement," de la Rosa told autosport.com. "Fernando will try other aero stuff to see how things are tomorrow. It was a satisfactory day. It is a small improvement and every bit counts."
Ralf Schumacher was fourth for Toyota, while Nick Heidfeld continued BMW Sauber's strong early season momentum with the fifth quickest time. Rubens Barrichello showed slightly improved form for Honda Racing to set the sixth fastest lap.
Seventh fastest Nelson Piquet Junior evaluated some new aerodynamic updates for Renault as the team continue to work on overcoming the problems that have blighted the start to their campaign.
Spaniard Adrian Valles returned to action for Spyker, but his day ended with a crash at Turn 5. He impacted with the tyre barriers and caused some damage, but the monocoque is believed to be okay.
Valles was not the only driver in the wars, with Kazuki Nakajima escaping unhurt from a fairly sizeable crash in the afternoon.
The Williams test driver had caused the first red flag of the day at 9:30am when he stopped with a technical problem, but at 2:30pm he went off at the 210km/h Curva Campsa and clouted the tyre barriers.
The impact badly damaged the right hand side of the car, requiring the team to fly in new parts for tomorrow's running and forcing them to cancel plans to get Nico Rosberg out later in the day.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:21.195 98
2. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.858 99
3. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.906 101
4. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:21.983 92
5. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.114 74
6. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:22.665 132
7. Piquet Renault (B) 1:22.763 125
8. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:22.771 56
9. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:23.165 47
10. Valles Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:23.343 44
11. van der Garde Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:23.466 37
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:24.248 43
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
Barcelona, Day One.
[QUOTE][B]Raikkonen fastest at Barcelona[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 30th 2007, 16:49 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen signalled Ferrari's continued strength with a dominant display on the opening day of testing at Barcelona on Monday.
The Ferrari driver, who is joint leader of the world championship with Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton, was six tenths of a second faster than Takuma Sato in the Super Aguri.
Sato was one of the surprises of the day, with his team trying out new aero parts and, perhaps most significantly, a new gearbox upgrade from Honda on the SA07 that should be introduced for the Spanish Grand Prix.
The Japanese driver completed his fastest run of the day in qualifying trim.
McLaren caused one of the biggest stirs of the day when they began evaluation of a new radical front wing that featured a high plane element over the top of the nose.
The team ran the MP4-22 with and without the new design to evaluate its effectiveness, as Pedro de la Rosa set the third fastest time.
Sources have suggested that the team were impressed with the new wing during straightline testing with it in Menorca last week and, although preliminary impressions were good in Barcelona today, further work will be conducted on it for the remainder of the week.
"We did some work on the aerodynamics, continuing the work from Menorca and there is a small improvement," de la Rosa told autosport.com. "Fernando will try other aero stuff to see how things are tomorrow. It was a satisfactory day. It is a small improvement and every bit counts."
Ralf Schumacher was fourth for Toyota, while Nick Heidfeld continued BMW Sauber's strong early season momentum with the fifth quickest time. Rubens Barrichello showed slightly improved form for Honda Racing to set the sixth fastest lap.
Seventh fastest Nelson Piquet Junior evaluated some new aerodynamic updates for Renault as the team continue to work on overcoming the problems that have blighted the start to their campaign.
Spaniard Adrian Valles returned to action for Spyker, but his day ended with a crash at Turn 5. He impacted with the tyre barriers and caused some damage, but the monocoque is believed to be okay.
Valles was not the only driver in the wars, with Kazuki Nakajima escaping unhurt from a fairly sizeable crash in the afternoon.
The Williams test driver had caused the first red flag of the day at 9:30am when he stopped with a technical problem, but at 2:30pm he went off at the 210km/h Curva Campsa and clouted the tyre barriers.
The impact badly damaged the right hand side of the car, requiring the team to fly in new parts for tomorrow's running and forcing them to cancel plans to get Nico Rosberg out later in the day.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:21.195 98
2. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.858 99
3. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.906 101
4. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:21.983 92
5. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.114 74
6. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:22.665 132
7. Piquet Renault (B) 1:22.763 125
8. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:22.771 56
9. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:23.165 47
10. Valles Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:23.343 44
11. van der Garde Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:23.466 37
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:24.248 43
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
| StuBeck | 04-30-2007 02:04 PM |
Wow, Sato was fast, and weird to see van der Garde in the car.
| bitterWRX | 04-30-2007 03:03 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;17903462]McLaren's new front wing
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73021.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RALLYT-WRX;17903476]Is that Legal?[/QUOTE]
We'll find out how illegal it is when Ferrari begin to lose ground on the championship. :D
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73021.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RALLYT-WRX;17903476]Is that Legal?[/QUOTE]
We'll find out how illegal it is when Ferrari begin to lose ground on the championship. :D
| RALLYT-WRX | 04-30-2007 03:04 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX;17907680]We'll find out how illegal it is when Ferrari begin to lose ground on the championship. :D[/QUOTE]
I think it's going to take more than a wing change for that.
But I see your point. :lol:
I think it's going to take more than a wing change for that.
But I see your point. :lol:
| JoD | 04-30-2007 03:35 PM |
That new Merc wing is interesting...
Kinda like a cow catcher. Maybe that's it.... get in Fred's or Lewis's way, and you get caught up in that thing. :D
Kinda like a cow catcher. Maybe that's it.... get in Fred's or Lewis's way, and you get caught up in that thing. :D
| nKoan | 04-30-2007 04:15 PM |
The wing is interesting to say the least. At the very least, it looks pretty good IMO.
| KAX | 04-30-2007 04:39 PM |
definitely interesting, props to whoever came up with, even more props if it makes a good difference.
| soldmyboxster | 04-30-2007 04:59 PM |
I saw the pic on F1.com and immediately came here. I get all geeked out about stuff like this. :)
| artkevin | 04-30-2007 05:24 PM |
I am tyring to figure out how it can be more effective then the attached ones like Renault, Ferrari & Williams. I guess it can add downforce to the top side of the nose which might make the whole front end more effective.
| StuBeck | 04-30-2007 07:04 PM |
That is what I think it is for exactly. It should help the understeer they have more because its bringing the air from higher up. Its affecting air they haven't messed with that early on in the cars span
| Indocti Discant | 05-01-2007 09:42 AM |
i R Toyota! fastest if i miss chicane. :alien:
| rupertberr | 05-01-2007 10:26 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;17905343]Yes, metals. Dammit
Fan car much?
[IMG]http://es.motorfull.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/2001_Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed_Brabham_BT46B_Fan_car.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Car was legal and won first time out. Rules were changed for safety reasons by the next race and the car was then banned. King Rat's win still counted. The problem was the fan sucked everything up off the ground and shot it back at anyone following. That and it was really fast.:D
Video is kind of lame till the very end:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d7iR72UVh4[/url]
I built a model of the BT46 when I was a kid. Pretty cool.
Fan car much?
[IMG]http://es.motorfull.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/2001_Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed_Brabham_BT46B_Fan_car.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Car was legal and won first time out. Rules were changed for safety reasons by the next race and the car was then banned. King Rat's win still counted. The problem was the fan sucked everything up off the ground and shot it back at anyone following. That and it was really fast.:D
Video is kind of lame till the very end:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d7iR72UVh4[/url]
I built a model of the BT46 when I was a kid. Pretty cool.
| rupertberr | 05-01-2007 10:51 AM |
As far as the wing goes, its been done before with moderate success:
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Fokdri.jpg[/IMG]
:D
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Fokdri.jpg[/IMG]
:D
| Ferg | 05-01-2007 11:35 AM |
[QUOTE=rupertberr;17917886]Car was legal and won first time out. Rules were changed for safety reasons by the next race and the car was then banned. King Rat's win still counted. The problem was the fan sucked everything up off the ground and shot it back at anyone following. That and it was really fast.:D
[/QUOTE]
This is me just splitting hairs but technically the car wasn't banned, it was withdrawn permanently by Brabham's boss, one Bernie Ecclestone at the request of the FIA. "For the good of the sport" or something along those lines. Certainly a "ban" in all but name...I do wonder what exactly Bernie got out of the deal.
[/QUOTE]
This is me just splitting hairs but technically the car wasn't banned, it was withdrawn permanently by Brabham's boss, one Bernie Ecclestone at the request of the FIA. "For the good of the sport" or something along those lines. Certainly a "ban" in all but name...I do wonder what exactly Bernie got out of the deal.
| rupertberr | 05-01-2007 12:27 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;17918839]This is me just splitting hairs but technically the car wasn't banned, it was withdrawn permanently by Brabham's boss, one Bernie Ecclestone at the request of the FIA. "For the good of the sport" or something along those lines. Certainly a "ban" in all but name...I do wonder what exactly Bernie got out of the deal.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, pulling out my six books on the Brabham F1 team and a couple Niki Lauda books for good measure...
...aha, we are both right.
According to Alan Henry, FOCA made a deal where Brabham "could use the fan car until August 1 and then had to discard the idea. However, the CSI's special commission, which met on June 23, decided to reject this '"consensus" approach and decreed that fans were [B]banned[/B] from Formula One henceforth."
Hmmm, pulling out my six books on the Brabham F1 team and a couple Niki Lauda books for good measure...
...aha, we are both right.
According to Alan Henry, FOCA made a deal where Brabham "could use the fan car until August 1 and then had to discard the idea. However, the CSI's special commission, which met on June 23, decided to reject this '"consensus" approach and decreed that fans were [B]banned[/B] from Formula One henceforth."
| Ferg | 05-01-2007 12:39 PM |
Ah, didn't realize it had gone that far. I knew Brabham and Bernie agreed to retire the car, but didn't know the governing body went ahead and banned it anyway for good measure.
Thanks for the elaboration, much appreciated.
Alan Henry = the gold standard for F1 journalists :D
Thanks for the elaboration, much appreciated.
Alan Henry = the gold standard for F1 journalists :D
| Ferg | 05-01-2007 12:47 PM |
Barcelona, Day Two
[QUOTE][B]Raikkonen fastest on wet second day[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, May 1st 2007, 16:28 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen maintained his domination of testing at Barcelona this week with the fastest lap on the second day of running, but the times were pretty meaningless thanks to the atrocious weather conditions.
Rain showers for most of the day meant that there was little valuable information to be gleaned on the new developments the teams were trying - and world champion Fernando Alonso proved as much by completing just one installation lap in the afternoon before calling it a day.
Raikkonen stuck with it, though, completing 54 laps before a spin at Turn 3 in the afternoon led to him running off the track and into the barriers.
There was no major damage to the car, but the Finn seemed keen on not getting too wet by running to a marshal's hut after getting out of the car and waiting there until rescue crews arrived to retrieve his stricken car.
Mark Webber managed to get some valuable running of Red Bull Racing's seamless shift gearbox to set the second quickest time - albeit 1.5 seconds slower than Raikkonen - with Renault's Heikki Kovalainen third fastest overall.
The Finn stayed positive and made the most of the opportunity to get some wet weather mileage.
"Personally, I tried to use every lap to improve something: trying a new line, or pushing the braking points a bit further," said Kovalainen.
"The track was changing all the time, and we were able to run the wet and extreme wet tyres today. To be honest, I enjoy driving in the wet, it's different to normal and good fun for the drivers."
Nick Heidfeld showed that BMW Sauber are as quick in the wet as they are in the dry to set the fourth quickest time, while fifth fastest Nico Rosberg managed to complete 45 laps after Williams successfully repaired his car following Kazuki Nakajima's big accident on Monday.
Spyker had also had a busy night, working hard to repair the damage caused by Adrian Valles' accident at Turn 3 on Monday afternoon. Adrian Sutil took over driving duties, but completed only 11 laps with the team keen to not suffer any further mishaps in the tricky conditions.
Thanks to the wet weather the test has been extended until Thursday, as autosport.com predicted yesterday, although Spyker have already confirmed that they will not remain beyond tomorrow.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Make Time Laps
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:30.280 54
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:31.752 39
3. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:32.149 53
4. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:32.175 17
5. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:32.580 45
6. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:32.911 44
7. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:32.943 21
8. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:33.238 40
9. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:33.323 38
10. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:35.488 11
11. Speed Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:39.560 7
12. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 2:04.818 1
All timing unofficial
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Raikkonen fastest on wet second day[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, May 1st 2007, 16:28 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen maintained his domination of testing at Barcelona this week with the fastest lap on the second day of running, but the times were pretty meaningless thanks to the atrocious weather conditions.
Rain showers for most of the day meant that there was little valuable information to be gleaned on the new developments the teams were trying - and world champion Fernando Alonso proved as much by completing just one installation lap in the afternoon before calling it a day.
Raikkonen stuck with it, though, completing 54 laps before a spin at Turn 3 in the afternoon led to him running off the track and into the barriers.
There was no major damage to the car, but the Finn seemed keen on not getting too wet by running to a marshal's hut after getting out of the car and waiting there until rescue crews arrived to retrieve his stricken car.
Mark Webber managed to get some valuable running of Red Bull Racing's seamless shift gearbox to set the second quickest time - albeit 1.5 seconds slower than Raikkonen - with Renault's Heikki Kovalainen third fastest overall.
The Finn stayed positive and made the most of the opportunity to get some wet weather mileage.
"Personally, I tried to use every lap to improve something: trying a new line, or pushing the braking points a bit further," said Kovalainen.
"The track was changing all the time, and we were able to run the wet and extreme wet tyres today. To be honest, I enjoy driving in the wet, it's different to normal and good fun for the drivers."
Nick Heidfeld showed that BMW Sauber are as quick in the wet as they are in the dry to set the fourth quickest time, while fifth fastest Nico Rosberg managed to complete 45 laps after Williams successfully repaired his car following Kazuki Nakajima's big accident on Monday.
Spyker had also had a busy night, working hard to repair the damage caused by Adrian Valles' accident at Turn 3 on Monday afternoon. Adrian Sutil took over driving duties, but completed only 11 laps with the team keen to not suffer any further mishaps in the tricky conditions.
Thanks to the wet weather the test has been extended until Thursday, as autosport.com predicted yesterday, although Spyker have already confirmed that they will not remain beyond tomorrow.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Make Time Laps
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:30.280 54
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:31.752 39
3. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:32.149 53
4. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:32.175 17
5. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:32.580 45
6. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:32.911 44
7. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:32.943 21
8. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:33.238 40
9. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:33.323 38
10. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:35.488 11
11. Speed Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:39.560 7
12. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 2:04.818 1
All timing unofficial
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| StuBeck | 05-01-2007 01:59 PM |
Why do they still list the tyres the teams use?
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