| bemani | 02-07-2007 02:23 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16964946]Time for a 2007 chassis round up...
[/QUOTE]
So Renault's got the hub caps, but Toyota's running slicks?
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So Renault's got the hub caps, but Toyota's running slicks?
| Ferg | 02-07-2007 02:26 PM |
Nah, take another look at the pic. It's on inters.
| KAX | 02-07-2007 02:29 PM |
weren't slicks coming back this year? why are they testing the grooved tires?
or is that 2008?
or is that 2008?
| bitterWRX | 02-07-2007 02:31 PM |
[QUOTE=bemani;16966525]So Renault's got the hub caps, but Toyota's running slicks?[/QUOTE]
Those aren't slicks. They're intermediates.
edit: beaten
Those aren't slicks. They're intermediates.
edit: beaten
| Ferg | 02-07-2007 02:38 PM |
Slicks in '08 last time I checked.
I'm not holding by breath though...
I'm not holding by breath though...
| f1vlad | 02-07-2007 02:43 PM |
More pics of Nick playin in the snow:
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/b/0/2/e/9/b02e9f6c737759e24df9b1958e81f3c2_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/b/8/d/d/7/b8dd72ce5fc7d2b84157f53d3053f828_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/7/e/6/d/3/7e6d3d9c37ae485d5d6d00ea8762d1d8_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/f/e/b/6/6/feb660cc6fdd40ea33320619e6149d63_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/b/0/2/e/9/b02e9f6c737759e24df9b1958e81f3c2_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/b/8/d/d/7/b8dd72ce5fc7d2b84157f53d3053f828_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/7/e/6/d/3/7e6d3d9c37ae485d5d6d00ea8762d1d8_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/f/e/b/6/6/feb660cc6fdd40ea33320619e6149d63_full.jpg[/IMG]
| artkevin | 02-07-2007 06:41 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16964511]Waiting for today's testing from Jerez....
Marco is back in the Honda and he brought along the family.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/74091072/large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I like two out of the three. Anyone wanna guess which one is on the outs?:D
Marco is back in the Honda and he brought along the family.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/74091072/large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I like two out of the three. Anyone wanna guess which one is on the outs?:D
| KAX | 02-07-2007 07:05 PM |
uh, michael?
im suprised BMW used the same width tires. It would have been cool to see what an F1 car looked like on skinny snow wheels :lol:
im suprised BMW used the same width tires. It would have been cool to see what an F1 car looked like on skinny snow wheels :lol:
| ptclaus98 | 02-07-2007 08:55 PM |
Anybody know where I might be able to get some Lucky Strike patches?
| Ferg | 02-07-2007 09:37 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16970128]I like two out of the three. Anyone wanna guess which one is on the outs?:D[/QUOTE]
Here's a nice obscure reference...
All three look like they're auditioning for roles in Attack of the Giant Gila Monster.
Here's a nice obscure reference...
All three look like they're auditioning for roles in Attack of the Giant Gila Monster.
| grippgoat | 02-08-2007 10:39 AM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16972166]Here's a nice obscure reference...
All three look like they're auditioning for roles in Attack of the Giant Gila Monster.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking this:
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Captain_morgan.gif/180px-Captain_morgan.gif[/img]
Wrong angle, but still. :)
-Mike
All three look like they're auditioning for roles in Attack of the Giant Gila Monster.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking this:
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Captain_morgan.gif/180px-Captain_morgan.gif[/img]
Wrong angle, but still. :)
-Mike
| John__Gotti | 02-08-2007 11:00 AM |
[QUOTE=artkevin;16970128]I like two out of the three. Anyone wanna guess which one is on the outs?:D[/QUOTE]
I'll say Michel but don't like him too much myself either. Turned his back on good open wheel racing CART because IRL is just NASCAR without bodywork.
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16971653]Anybody know where I might be able to get some Lucky Strike patches?[/QUOTE]
My only guess would be to try eBay if you haven't looked there yet.
I'll say Michel but don't like him too much myself either. Turned his back on good open wheel racing CART because IRL is just NASCAR without bodywork.
[QUOTE=ptclaus98;16971653]Anybody know where I might be able to get some Lucky Strike patches?[/QUOTE]
My only guess would be to try eBay if you haven't looked there yet.
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 12:08 PM |
Jerez testing...
[QUOTE][B][U]Heidfeld on top at wet Jerez
[/U][/B]
Thursday, February 8th 2007, 16:54 GMT
Nick Heidfeld topped the times on the rain-hit final day of testing at Jerez in Spain on Thursday, with his BMW appearing well suited to the wet conditions.
With intermittent rain showers throughout the day, there was little chance of meaningful dry running - but that did not stop a lot of drivers from completing wet weather programmes.
Heidfeld began the day working on extreme weather tyres before switching to the standard wet tyres for traction control and set-up work. His BMW team, who saw Timo Glock set the third quickest time, packed up at lunchtime though to head to Barcelona for next week's test.
Alexander Wurz ended Williams' encouraging first test with their FW29 with another good showing as he ended the day second overall, half a second behind Heidfeld's best time.
His teammate Nico Rosberg had a less successful day though, finishing sixth overall and bringing out the red flags in the morning after stopping on the way to the garage.
Kimi Raikkonen was fourth quickest for Ferrari, just ahead of Honda's Rubens Barrichello - who stopped on the track at 10:35am with a suspected mechanical problem.
Further down the order, David Coulthard and Mark Webber continued to have their share of troubles with the new RB3.
Tenth fastest Coulthard went off the track at 12:12pm, before returning to action shortly afterwards and then stopping on the track. Webber stopped on track just five minutes later.
The Australian continued to have problems with the seat of his car, although he will get a new one for next week's test at Barcelona.
"I might not want to race tomorrow but I am not really bruised," said Webber of the seat.
McLaren's MP4-22 did not appear to be as dominant in the wet as it was in the dry, with Pedro de la Rosa down in 12th overall on the timesheet.
World champion Fernando Alonso gave up running in the morning, and left the attending press furious when he left the track early and skipped his planned media briefing. Several frustrated Spanish journalists were seen chasing after his car as he left the paddock.
Marco Andretti completed 62 laps in the Honda and ended the day at the bottom of the timesheets, although less than one second off the pace.
Renault packed up in the morning after deciding that there was little point in testing in the wet, therefore saving some of their tyre allocation.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:29.486 35
2. Wurz Williams-Toyota (B) 1:30.051 69
3. Glock BMW-Sauber (B) 1:30.213 27
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:30.628 89
5. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:30.684 64
6. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:30.684 47
7. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:30.746 44
8. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:30.981 89
9. Montagny Toyota (B) 1:31.027 75
10. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:31.166 65
11. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:31.405 68
12. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:31.479 71
13. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:31.573 9
14. Andretti Honda (B) 1:32.387 62
15. Zonta Renault (B) No time 2
16. Piquet Renault (B) No time 3
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B][U]Heidfeld on top at wet Jerez
[/U][/B]
Thursday, February 8th 2007, 16:54 GMT
Nick Heidfeld topped the times on the rain-hit final day of testing at Jerez in Spain on Thursday, with his BMW appearing well suited to the wet conditions.
With intermittent rain showers throughout the day, there was little chance of meaningful dry running - but that did not stop a lot of drivers from completing wet weather programmes.
Heidfeld began the day working on extreme weather tyres before switching to the standard wet tyres for traction control and set-up work. His BMW team, who saw Timo Glock set the third quickest time, packed up at lunchtime though to head to Barcelona for next week's test.
Alexander Wurz ended Williams' encouraging first test with their FW29 with another good showing as he ended the day second overall, half a second behind Heidfeld's best time.
His teammate Nico Rosberg had a less successful day though, finishing sixth overall and bringing out the red flags in the morning after stopping on the way to the garage.
Kimi Raikkonen was fourth quickest for Ferrari, just ahead of Honda's Rubens Barrichello - who stopped on the track at 10:35am with a suspected mechanical problem.
Further down the order, David Coulthard and Mark Webber continued to have their share of troubles with the new RB3.
Tenth fastest Coulthard went off the track at 12:12pm, before returning to action shortly afterwards and then stopping on the track. Webber stopped on track just five minutes later.
The Australian continued to have problems with the seat of his car, although he will get a new one for next week's test at Barcelona.
"I might not want to race tomorrow but I am not really bruised," said Webber of the seat.
McLaren's MP4-22 did not appear to be as dominant in the wet as it was in the dry, with Pedro de la Rosa down in 12th overall on the timesheet.
World champion Fernando Alonso gave up running in the morning, and left the attending press furious when he left the track early and skipped his planned media briefing. Several frustrated Spanish journalists were seen chasing after his car as he left the paddock.
Marco Andretti completed 62 laps in the Honda and ended the day at the bottom of the timesheets, although less than one second off the pace.
Renault packed up in the morning after deciding that there was little point in testing in the wet, therefore saving some of their tyre allocation.
Today's times:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:29.486 35
2. Wurz Williams-Toyota (B) 1:30.051 69
3. Glock BMW-Sauber (B) 1:30.213 27
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:30.628 89
5. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:30.684 64
6. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:30.684 47
7. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:30.746 44
8. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:30.981 89
9. Montagny Toyota (B) 1:31.027 75
10. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:31.166 65
11. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:31.405 68
12. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:31.479 71
13. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:31.573 9
14. Andretti Honda (B) 1:32.387 62
15. Zonta Renault (B) No time 2
16. Piquet Renault (B) No time 3
All Timing Unofficial[/QUOTE]
| StuBeck | 02-08-2007 12:40 PM |
Awesome, Red Bull's both slow and not able to keep the car together.
Looks like Alonso is being an ass again.
Looks like Alonso is being an ass again.
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 01:03 PM |
Slow and fragile...not such a good start. Newey's cars may be known for being on the delicate side but I'm a bit suprised it's taking them this long to sort out the speed.
More on Alonso's bitchiness.
[QUOTE]Alonso: McLaren not ready to win yet
By Pablo Elizalde Thursday, February 8th 2007, 17:46 GMT
World champion Fernando Alonso believes McLaren still have work to do before they are ready for the start of the season, despite their impressive form in early testing.
McLaren have looked like the team to beat so far this year, with their drivers often topping the times with the new Mercedes-powered MP4-22 and showing strong form on long runs.
Despite their apparent speed, however, Alonso is staying cautious and reckons the British squad need to get a better grip on setting-up their car before the Australian Grand Prix.
"I don't know what to say. The times have been good and people are following us closely but the car, it's not even close to ready for Australia and time is running out," the McLaren driver told Spanish network Telecinco during testing at Jerez.
"I hope that in Barcelona and Bahrain we can get it set up properly in two weeks time," added the Spaniard, who reckons the Ferrari and Renault teams will be the main threat at the start of the season.
"Ferrari are looking very good and Renault will start the year well, but they will get worse, as usual."
When asked what he liked best about his car, Alonso joked: "The colours."
Alonso was the centre of attention during the tests at Jerez, where several thousand fans watched the local hero work with his new team.
The world champion admitted he was not happy with the way the Spanish track had handled the crowd, however, and said McLaren are considering not returning to Jerez to test.
"I enjoy the support from the Spanish people during the pre-season, but McLaren are considering not coming back to Jerez because they allow too many people inside the paddock," he said.
"It's got out of hand and it would be a shame if we didn't return to Spain to test just because people can't watch their manners." [/QUOTE]
More on Alonso's bitchiness.
[QUOTE]Alonso: McLaren not ready to win yet
By Pablo Elizalde Thursday, February 8th 2007, 17:46 GMT
World champion Fernando Alonso believes McLaren still have work to do before they are ready for the start of the season, despite their impressive form in early testing.
McLaren have looked like the team to beat so far this year, with their drivers often topping the times with the new Mercedes-powered MP4-22 and showing strong form on long runs.
Despite their apparent speed, however, Alonso is staying cautious and reckons the British squad need to get a better grip on setting-up their car before the Australian Grand Prix.
"I don't know what to say. The times have been good and people are following us closely but the car, it's not even close to ready for Australia and time is running out," the McLaren driver told Spanish network Telecinco during testing at Jerez.
"I hope that in Barcelona and Bahrain we can get it set up properly in two weeks time," added the Spaniard, who reckons the Ferrari and Renault teams will be the main threat at the start of the season.
"Ferrari are looking very good and Renault will start the year well, but they will get worse, as usual."
When asked what he liked best about his car, Alonso joked: "The colours."
Alonso was the centre of attention during the tests at Jerez, where several thousand fans watched the local hero work with his new team.
The world champion admitted he was not happy with the way the Spanish track had handled the crowd, however, and said McLaren are considering not returning to Jerez to test.
"I enjoy the support from the Spanish people during the pre-season, but McLaren are considering not coming back to Jerez because they allow too many people inside the paddock," he said.
"It's got out of hand and it would be a shame if we didn't return to Spain to test just because people can't watch their manners." [/QUOTE]
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 01:07 PM |
Toro Rosso finally do [i]something[/i]....
[QUOTE]Toro Rosso to hold launch event next week
Thursday, February 8th 2007, 18:03 GMT
Scuderia Toro Rosso have confirmed that they will hold a launch event at Barcelona next week, even though they are not sure when their new car will be finished.
The team have still to finalise their driver line-up for 2007 as well, but will hold media briefings during testing at the Circuit de Catalunya on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Toro Rosso to hold launch event next week
Thursday, February 8th 2007, 18:03 GMT
Scuderia Toro Rosso have confirmed that they will hold a launch event at Barcelona next week, even though they are not sure when their new car will be finished.
The team have still to finalise their driver line-up for 2007 as well, but will hold media briefings during testing at the Circuit de Catalunya on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
| artkevin | 02-08-2007 01:14 PM |
I hope it is a case of Alonso under promising and over delivering. I hope.
Yes, Michael is the one on the outs. :)
Yes, Michael is the one on the outs. :)
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 02-08-2007 01:33 PM |
So TR is going to do a worse job than red bull at thier intro?
Perfect. :lol:
Perfect. :lol:
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 01:55 PM |
Here's a much better look at the new Abu Dhabi circuit.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/74127292/original.jpg[/IMG]
It's anti-clockwise.
The part to the left is the temporary street circuit while the track to the right is the permanent facility. The street part runs around the marina.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/74127292/original.jpg[/IMG]
It's anti-clockwise.
The part to the left is the temporary street circuit while the track to the right is the permanent facility. The street part runs around the marina.
| sirfrankwilliams | 02-08-2007 02:24 PM |
There's not much to the permanent portion of the track, good thing they're expanding onto the streets.
I'm trying to imagine where they are creating thier man-made hills...
I'm trying to imagine where they are creating thier man-made hills...
| StuBeck | 02-08-2007 02:31 PM |
Looks like one passing zone, bleh.
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 02:34 PM |
I see two, maybe three Stu.
End of the long straight, end of the slightly curved straight, and maybe at the end of the pit straight.
Looking at the pics from Abu Dhabi's big F1 party last weekend the location of the track looks very promising. Certainly a step up from all the new "middle of nowhere" circuits...
End of the long straight, end of the slightly curved straight, and maybe at the end of the pit straight.
Looking at the pics from Abu Dhabi's big F1 party last weekend the location of the track looks very promising. Certainly a step up from all the new "middle of nowhere" circuits...
| Indocti Discant | 02-08-2007 03:20 PM |
i donno if i a fan of that pit..
| REX8 | 02-08-2007 05:18 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16980408]I see two, maybe three Stu.
End of the long straight, end of the slightly curved straight, and maybe at the end of the pit straight.
Looking at the pics from Abu Dhabi's big F1 party last weekend the location of the track looks very promising. Certainly a step up from all the new "middle of nowhere" circuits...[/QUOTE]
I see 3 as well, two a little better than the third, but definately 3.
End of the long straight, end of the slightly curved straight, and maybe at the end of the pit straight.
Looking at the pics from Abu Dhabi's big F1 party last weekend the location of the track looks very promising. Certainly a step up from all the new "middle of nowhere" circuits...[/QUOTE]
I see 3 as well, two a little better than the third, but definately 3.
| Slick Nick | 02-08-2007 07:43 PM |
[QUOTE=owace;16981096]i donno if i a fan of that pit..[/QUOTE]
I can't even find the pit. Where is it?
I can't even find the pit. Where is it?
| StuBeck | 02-08-2007 07:51 PM |
I can sort of see the second one on the Oz backstretch like area. The front stretch looks way too short. I think the curved stretch is going to be really hard to pass on personally. It depends on how wide the track is though.
| REX8 | 02-08-2007 07:56 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16984756]I can sort of see the second one on the Oz backstretch like area. The front stretch looks way too short. I think the curved stretch is going to be really hard to pass on personally. It depends on how wide the track is though.[/QUOTE]
Counterclockwise, I don't see how the curved stretch really any different from a straight.
Counterclockwise, I don't see how the curved stretch really any different from a straight.
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 10:44 PM |
It took awhile to find, but here's the future site of the track. Yas Island. It's also going to be home to a Ferrari theme park, whatever that is...
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/74142445/original.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/74142445/original.jpg[/IMG]
| StuBeck | 02-08-2007 10:57 PM |
[QUOTE=REX8;16984807]Counterclockwise, I don't see how the curved stretch really any different from a straight.[/QUOTE]
I know its counter clockwise. The problem with a straight which is curved like that is that drivers just run on the inside and its a lot more difficult to get around than a straightaway.
I know its counter clockwise. The problem with a straight which is curved like that is that drivers just run on the inside and its a lot more difficult to get around than a straightaway.
| Ferg | 02-08-2007 11:10 PM |
Guys, in F1 it's "anti-clockwise". :p
I'm just a caveman, found by your scientists and unfrozen. All this talk of "counter-clockwise" confuses and frightens me.
<--heavily medicated right now....
I'm just a caveman, found by your scientists and unfrozen. All this talk of "counter-clockwise" confuses and frightens me.
<--heavily medicated right now....
| artkevin | 02-08-2007 11:18 PM |
Really cool vid on Williams home page. Its split into 3 sections:
1. Man on the street style testimonials
2. Sam Michael explaining the changes on the car for 2007 (fantastic to hear the engineer explain what we all guess about)
3. The 4 drivers talking about 2007.
The middle part is a must see.
[url]http://www.williamsf1.com/[/url]
1. Man on the street style testimonials
2. Sam Michael explaining the changes on the car for 2007 (fantastic to hear the engineer explain what we all guess about)
3. The 4 drivers talking about 2007.
The middle part is a must see.
[url]http://www.williamsf1.com/[/url]
| TimStevens | 02-09-2007 08:05 AM |
Ouch @ the "sinking ship" comment! :lol:
| Indocti Discant | 02-09-2007 09:50 AM |
[quote=Slick Nick;16984674]I can't even find the pit. Where is it?[/quote]
im think entrance at pre T1 with exit just pre T2.
i dont like PITs which make the travelled distance longer. I always felt they should be kept equal length.
im think entrance at pre T1 with exit just pre T2.
i dont like PITs which make the travelled distance longer. I always felt they should be kept equal length.
| Ferg | 02-09-2007 10:37 AM |
Spin time...
[QUOTE][B][U]Red Bull duo calm despite RB3 pace[/U][/B]
By Jonathan Noble Friday, February 9th 2007, 10:32 GMT
Red Bull Racing duo Mark Webber and David Coulthard insist they are not disheartened by the early testing signs from their new RB3, even though it has failed to set competitive times.
The duo have just completed their second week of testing with the car, but have found themselves unable to break into the top half of the timesheets yet.
Despite the laptimes, however, both drivers feel that development of the car is heading in the right direction - although they are both aware that more work is needed.
Speaking to autosport.com, Webber said: "Getting in laps is very important to us. This test was not too bad.
"David and I just focused on our programmes. We did a lot of endurance work on brake cooling and getting into the detail work, so we can prepare for Barcelona with a little more efficiency.
"We did tick off a few boxes on the final afternoon, which is nice. We made the best of a wet day, but we got through it.
"So there were a few positives from the test, but we still have a lot to do. My side of the garage had a pretty full week, so it wasn't too bad in the end, but we have got a lot of work to do."
Coulthard added: "We are on a process of discovery and trying to clock up the laps. We want to identify the areas where we can improve the performance, and that is just a continuation of what we have been doing for the last few tests."
Webber is also hoping to get a new seat for the car, after complaining of being cramped in the tight cockpit
"I am not bruised, but I would not want to be racing tomorrow," he said. "But I will be alright."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B][U]Massa: BMW ahead of Ferrari and McLaren
[/U][/B]
By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Friday, February 9th 2007, 10:22 GMT
The BMW Sauber team are looking like the team to beat, judging by pre-season testing form ahead of the 2007 season.
That is the view of Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, who has been impressed with the German squad's performances with their new F1.07 car.
"The McLaren surely looks fast, but in my opinion the BMW Sauber is the best of all at the moment," Massa told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"I'm saying this by not just looking at the fastest time of this last day, but by seeing their consistency over their long run simulations.
"For me, the BMW Sauber at Valencia was impressive, and at Jerez they've done some very interesting tests too," added the Ferrari driver, who reckons BMW are ahead of Ferrari and McLaren so far.
"The McLaren is the fastest over a single lap, but as far as consistency is concerned the BMW is impressive even though they perhaps haven't the best reliability yet. For now I put them ahead of Ferrari and McLaren."
Despite his rivals' impressive form, Massa claims there is nothing to worry about, and he believes Ferrari are right where they expected to be at this point.
"We are in the situation we had expected," he added. "The car is demonstrating to be certainly quick and reliable too, even though we had some problems. However, we know how to solve them.
"We leave Jerez with some good things and some others not as good. The car is quick and there's nothing to worry about. We manage to easily do quick times and we are close to the guys who go faster at the moment."
The Brazilian admitted the rain that has hit this week's test at Jerez has hindered their preparations with the F2007 car, making next week's test at Barcelona crucial to get things right for the season-opening Australian Grand Prix.
"Saying it's a pain is an understatement," Massa said. "We came here to put miles in the car and to get to know it, but with the rain we aren't able to always complete the program: you can't push like in the dry, and you can't always understand whether the new things you are testing are working or not.
"Next week's test will be important for everyone. The car we are using now is very different to the one we'll use in Australia, at least aerodynamically. At Montmelo we'll begin to see some changes."
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B][U]Red Bull duo calm despite RB3 pace[/U][/B]
By Jonathan Noble Friday, February 9th 2007, 10:32 GMT
Red Bull Racing duo Mark Webber and David Coulthard insist they are not disheartened by the early testing signs from their new RB3, even though it has failed to set competitive times.
The duo have just completed their second week of testing with the car, but have found themselves unable to break into the top half of the timesheets yet.
Despite the laptimes, however, both drivers feel that development of the car is heading in the right direction - although they are both aware that more work is needed.
Speaking to autosport.com, Webber said: "Getting in laps is very important to us. This test was not too bad.
"David and I just focused on our programmes. We did a lot of endurance work on brake cooling and getting into the detail work, so we can prepare for Barcelona with a little more efficiency.
"We did tick off a few boxes on the final afternoon, which is nice. We made the best of a wet day, but we got through it.
"So there were a few positives from the test, but we still have a lot to do. My side of the garage had a pretty full week, so it wasn't too bad in the end, but we have got a lot of work to do."
Coulthard added: "We are on a process of discovery and trying to clock up the laps. We want to identify the areas where we can improve the performance, and that is just a continuation of what we have been doing for the last few tests."
Webber is also hoping to get a new seat for the car, after complaining of being cramped in the tight cockpit
"I am not bruised, but I would not want to be racing tomorrow," he said. "But I will be alright."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B][U]Massa: BMW ahead of Ferrari and McLaren
[/U][/B]
By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Friday, February 9th 2007, 10:22 GMT
The BMW Sauber team are looking like the team to beat, judging by pre-season testing form ahead of the 2007 season.
That is the view of Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, who has been impressed with the German squad's performances with their new F1.07 car.
"The McLaren surely looks fast, but in my opinion the BMW Sauber is the best of all at the moment," Massa told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"I'm saying this by not just looking at the fastest time of this last day, but by seeing their consistency over their long run simulations.
"For me, the BMW Sauber at Valencia was impressive, and at Jerez they've done some very interesting tests too," added the Ferrari driver, who reckons BMW are ahead of Ferrari and McLaren so far.
"The McLaren is the fastest over a single lap, but as far as consistency is concerned the BMW is impressive even though they perhaps haven't the best reliability yet. For now I put them ahead of Ferrari and McLaren."
Despite his rivals' impressive form, Massa claims there is nothing to worry about, and he believes Ferrari are right where they expected to be at this point.
"We are in the situation we had expected," he added. "The car is demonstrating to be certainly quick and reliable too, even though we had some problems. However, we know how to solve them.
"We leave Jerez with some good things and some others not as good. The car is quick and there's nothing to worry about. We manage to easily do quick times and we are close to the guys who go faster at the moment."
The Brazilian admitted the rain that has hit this week's test at Jerez has hindered their preparations with the F2007 car, making next week's test at Barcelona crucial to get things right for the season-opening Australian Grand Prix.
"Saying it's a pain is an understatement," Massa said. "We came here to put miles in the car and to get to know it, but with the rain we aren't able to always complete the program: you can't push like in the dry, and you can't always understand whether the new things you are testing are working or not.
"Next week's test will be important for everyone. The car we are using now is very different to the one we'll use in Australia, at least aerodynamically. At Montmelo we'll begin to see some changes."
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| StuBeck | 02-09-2007 10:54 AM |
Hopefully the seat helps Webber, and I think they will regain some pace, but they aren't going to win this year.
And Massa is full of it.
And Massa is full of it.
| KAX | 02-09-2007 12:32 PM |
I wouldn't say full of it, but sort of overdramatizing their performance compared to ferraris and mclarens.
| RALLYT-WRX | 02-09-2007 01:00 PM |
What Massa isn't saying is they still have the rev limiter on the Ferrari. ;)
| Ferg | 02-09-2007 01:17 PM |
There's a lot of speculation and confusion over the new Ferrari.
Ferrari have gone with a significantly longer and heavier car, which seems to be flying in the face of convention for the 2007 spec tires. Teams are finding the rear tires to be very touchy on wear and degredation so they've been biasing their weight distribution as far forward as possible...everyone that is except Ferrari.
Either Ferrari know something everyone else doesn't or they've gotten it horribly wrong.
Oh, and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (or brought up recently) but teams are also going to be forced to run [I]both[/I] types of compounds during the races this year.
Ferrari have gone with a significantly longer and heavier car, which seems to be flying in the face of convention for the 2007 spec tires. Teams are finding the rear tires to be very touchy on wear and degredation so they've been biasing their weight distribution as far forward as possible...everyone that is except Ferrari.
Either Ferrari know something everyone else doesn't or they've gotten it horribly wrong.
Oh, and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (or brought up recently) but teams are also going to be forced to run [I]both[/I] types of compounds during the races this year.
| NYEJ25 | 02-09-2007 01:38 PM |
Red Bull will rise!!!!!!
| RALLYT-WRX | 02-09-2007 01:44 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg;16992502]There's a lot of speculation and confusion over the new Ferrari.
Ferrari have gone with a significantly longer and heavier car, which seems to be flying in the face of convention for the 2007 spec tires. Teams are finding the rear tires to be very touchy on wear and degredation so they've been biasing their weight distribution as far forward as possible...everyone that is except Ferrari.
Either Ferrari know something everyone else doesn't or they've gotten it horribly wrong.
Oh, and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (or brought up recently) but teams are also going to be forced to run [I]both[/I] types of compounds during the races this year.[/QUOTE]
Are they going to have a Qualifying tire? Or similiar tire rules as last year?
Ferrari have gone with a significantly longer and heavier car, which seems to be flying in the face of convention for the 2007 spec tires. Teams are finding the rear tires to be very touchy on wear and degredation so they've been biasing their weight distribution as far forward as possible...everyone that is except Ferrari.
Either Ferrari know something everyone else doesn't or they've gotten it horribly wrong.
Oh, and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (or brought up recently) but teams are also going to be forced to run [I]both[/I] types of compounds during the races this year.[/QUOTE]
Are they going to have a Qualifying tire? Or similiar tire rules as last year?
| StuBeck | 02-09-2007 01:45 PM |
[QUOTE=NYEJ25;16992794]Red Bull will rise!!!!!![/QUOTE]
I sure hope, this 7th place in the championship stuff is getting old!
I sure hope, this 7th place in the championship stuff is getting old!
| StuBeck | 02-09-2007 01:50 PM |
[QUOTE=RALLYT-WRX;16992882]Are they going to have a Qualifying tire? Or similiar tire rules as last year?[/QUOTE]
No, they have to run both specifications during the race.
No, they have to run both specifications during the race.
| NYEJ25 | 02-09-2007 01:56 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16992902]I sure hope, this 7th place in the championship stuff is getting old![/QUOTE]
I predicted them to be the "sleeper team" of this season is last years thread.
I just want to be proved right!
I predicted them to be the "sleeper team" of this season is last years thread.
I just want to be proved right!
| Ferg | 02-09-2007 09:04 PM |
Oh jeez...
So I'm sitting here watching Countdown on MSNBC and they show the press conference from Prince ZhaZha (whatever his name is) who's claiming that he just might be the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby....and he's wearing a Schumi hat.
I've always suspencted Schumacher fans had issues... :lol:
So I'm sitting here watching Countdown on MSNBC and they show the press conference from Prince ZhaZha (whatever his name is) who's claiming that he just might be the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby....and he's wearing a Schumi hat.
I've always suspencted Schumacher fans had issues... :lol:
| Counterfit | 02-09-2007 09:43 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck;16992959]No, they have to run both specifications during the race.[/QUOTE]
That sounds pretty stupid to me.
And all I have to say for pre-season pace: It doesn't matter. The first Friday session in Melbourne matters.
That sounds pretty stupid to me.
And all I have to say for pre-season pace: It doesn't matter. The first Friday session in Melbourne matters.
| KAX | 02-09-2007 09:50 PM |
[QUOTE=Counterfit;16998270]That sounds pretty stupid to me.
And all I have to say for pre-season pace: It doesn't matter. The first Friday session in Melbourne matters.[/QUOTE]
not even that matters. first time we will really see the cars abilities will be the first qualy session.
And all I have to say for pre-season pace: It doesn't matter. The first Friday session in Melbourne matters.[/QUOTE]
not even that matters. first time we will really see the cars abilities will be the first qualy session.
| artkevin | 02-09-2007 10:02 PM |
The new STR rolled out today.:lol:
[IMG]http://racefreaks.nl/images/550/lbqnoxlvroyiijstgda.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://racefreaks.nl/images/550/lbqnoxlvroyiijstgda.jpg[/IMG]
| Dogbert2 | 02-09-2007 10:09 PM |
Is it March 17th yet? :furious:
| artkevin | 02-09-2007 11:02 PM |
Check out how much the RBR3 looks like the MP4-21. I guess Newey sticks to what he likes.
[IMG]http://racefreaks.nl/images/550/niyrxhngzslrxqatjci.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://racefreaks.nl/images/550/wmsiijsttguhrijwtth.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://racefreaks.nl/images/550/niyrxhngzslrxqatjci.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://racefreaks.nl/images/550/wmsiijsttguhrijwtth.jpg[/IMG]
| KAX | 02-10-2007 12:07 AM |
i wonder why he didn't go with the viking horns.
but yeh, basically carbon copies of each other. (pun intended)
but yeh, basically carbon copies of each other. (pun intended)
| StuBeck | 02-10-2007 10:06 AM |
There are some similarities, but there are also a lot of differences.
| artkevin | 02-10-2007 10:27 AM |
It looks like the natural evolution of the MP4-21 with a RBR rear wing bolted on it minus the viking horns + Ferrari style wing wirrors.
| artkevin | 02-10-2007 10:37 AM |
From I-TV:
[B]World�s slowest Ferrari?[/B]
Organisers of Melbourne�s Ferrari festival, due to take place before next month�s Australian Grand Prix, have been told by the local police that their Formula 1 demonstration must not exceed 60 kph.
That�s an unbelievably pedestrian 37 mph. That�ll be impressive then.
Apparently the law enforcement authorities were upset after the last street demonstration for F1 cars, where Antonio Pizzonia was reckoned to have driven his Williams at more than 220 kph (137 mph).
Shame he was never quite so nifty on the track.
Chief Inspector Bruce Ramsay said today: �We are not being spoilsports here, but should that Ferrari go just a fraction over the speed limit then we�ll nab him.�
A dry run for the event was held in the city yesterday with Luca Badoer, in last year�s F248, being overtaken by a boy on a skateboard and an old lady on an electric scooter.
[B]World�s slowest Ferrari?[/B]
Organisers of Melbourne�s Ferrari festival, due to take place before next month�s Australian Grand Prix, have been told by the local police that their Formula 1 demonstration must not exceed 60 kph.
That�s an unbelievably pedestrian 37 mph. That�ll be impressive then.
Apparently the law enforcement authorities were upset after the last street demonstration for F1 cars, where Antonio Pizzonia was reckoned to have driven his Williams at more than 220 kph (137 mph).
Shame he was never quite so nifty on the track.
Chief Inspector Bruce Ramsay said today: �We are not being spoilsports here, but should that Ferrari go just a fraction over the speed limit then we�ll nab him.�
A dry run for the event was held in the city yesterday with Luca Badoer, in last year�s F248, being overtaken by a boy on a skateboard and an old lady on an electric scooter.
| StuBeck | 02-10-2007 12:27 PM |
IBFirstF1CarRunsFromCops?
"We're not spoilsports, but if you go at a reasonable speed, we're going to arrest you."
"We're not spoilsports, but if you go at a reasonable speed, we're going to arrest you."
| wvallwheeldrive | 02-10-2007 02:21 PM |
That will be one way to set Ferrari back
| Scooby-Doode | 02-10-2007 02:48 PM |
A little off topic. Can somebody recommend a sitting spot for the indy gp? I was thinking corner 6 or corner 10 terrace? Any thoughts? I'd like to take some nice pictures. Thanks
| artkevin | 02-10-2007 02:48 PM |
Can an F1 car even go 37mph without stalling? When they are on the pit speed limiter they sound like a dying yak.
| StuBeck | 02-10-2007 03:06 PM |
[QUOTE=Scooby-Doode;17003080]A little off topic. Can somebody recommend a sitting spot for the indy gp? I was thinking corner 6 or corner 10 terrace? Any thoughts? I'd like to take some nice pictures. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Corner 6 is good, but Corner 10 doesn't make sense. At that point just pay for general admission and sit on the hill.
[QUOTE=artkevin;17003082]Can an F1 car even go 37mph without stalling? When they are on the pit speed limiter they sound like a dying yak.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that is the speed limit in monaco. The reason the F1 cars sound so crappy is because they're constantly getting fuel cut to stop them from going over the speed limit.
Corner 6 is good, but Corner 10 doesn't make sense. At that point just pay for general admission and sit on the hill.
[QUOTE=artkevin;17003082]Can an F1 car even go 37mph without stalling? When they are on the pit speed limiter they sound like a dying yak.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that is the speed limit in monaco. The reason the F1 cars sound so crappy is because they're constantly getting fuel cut to stop them from going over the speed limit.
| Indocti Discant | 02-10-2007 09:16 PM |
[quote=Scooby-Doode;17003080]A little off topic. Can somebody recommend a sitting spot for the indy gp? I was thinking corner 6 or corner 10 terrace? Any thoughts? I'd like to take some nice pictures. Thanks[/quote]
new yorker going to indy gp? want to make it a trip?
new yorker going to indy gp? want to make it a trip?
| f1vlad | 02-11-2007 08:34 PM |
[quote=Scooby-Doode;17003080]A little off topic. Can somebody recommend a sitting spot for the indy gp? I was thinking corner 6 or corner 10 terrace? Any thoughts? I'd like to take some nice pictures. Thanks[/quote]
I think it's a personal preference. I personally tried seated seat and general admission (sitting wherever you like on the grass -- not stands). This is going to be my fifth visit to brickyard and I will take General admission over any seat.
I usually sit around T1 through T10:
[URL]http://www.usgpindy.com/modules/images/trackmap/usgp05-map-lrg.jpg[/URL]
I think it's a personal preference. I personally tried seated seat and general admission (sitting wherever you like on the grass -- not stands). This is going to be my fifth visit to brickyard and I will take General admission over any seat.
I usually sit around T1 through T10:
[URL]http://www.usgpindy.com/modules/images/trackmap/usgp05-map-lrg.jpg[/URL]
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