| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 05:02 AM |
100Acre rally Salem MO sneek peak
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i am too tired to mess with any more tonight.... will get more later...
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i am too tired to mess with any more tonight.... will get more later...
| Mopho | 02-27-2005 09:36 AM |
Hey Dizzle, you were standing right behind me ;)
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[URL=http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/index.html]Here is some more[/URL]
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[URL=http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/index.html]Here is some more[/URL]
| FaastLegacy | 02-27-2005 11:01 AM |
And he was to the right of me, that 20D takes some damn good pictures.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Hey Dizzle, you were standing right behind me ;)
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[URL=http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/index.html]Here is some more[/URL][/QUOTE]
Heh, ahh so thats what Mopho looks like. RETRACTING STATEMENT AND APOLOGIZING FOR THE COMMENT.
however i am still disapointed about the runaround and lack of support. from the organizers.
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[URL=http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/index.html]Here is some more[/URL][/QUOTE]
Heh, ahh so thats what Mopho looks like. RETRACTING STATEMENT AND APOLOGIZING FOR THE COMMENT.
however i am still disapointed about the runaround and lack of support. from the organizers.
| dwx | 02-27-2005 01:22 PM |
Nice pictures, moronic statement.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 01:59 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Hey Dizzle, you were standing right behind me ;)
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lol just remembered, when you were walking around looking for a spot, i turned to my friend and noted to him that if you stood in my frame you would have recieved a branch to the back of the head.... ;)
P.S. i love the sun through the dust clowd shot... down the straightaway...
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lol just remembered, when you were walking around looking for a spot, i turned to my friend and noted to him that if you stood in my frame you would have recieved a branch to the back of the head.... ;)
P.S. i love the sun through the dust clowd shot... down the straightaway...
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 05:21 PM |
Here is my full gallery, there are many more shots, but these are the only ones i edited.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 05:22 PM |
[url]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreWebGallery/[/url]
| jslegacy | 02-27-2005 05:48 PM |
dmitry - there are red x's at the top
Not bad for your first time shooting a moving car, haha j/k good job man.
i tell you my critques later man.
-jeremy
Not bad for your first time shooting a moving car, haha j/k good job man.
i tell you my critques later man.
-jeremy
| greg donovan | 02-27-2005 06:51 PM |
[QUOTE=D-I-Z-Z-L-E]Heh, ahh so thats what Mopho looks like. Its a shame the organizers of the event are worthless retards. If they had any organisation i might have been able to get a photo vest and actually get decent shots.[/QUOTE]
they are not worthless. and are very organized and many are friends of mine. that was pretty harsh and uncalled for.
did you contact rally america and the organizers before the event?
are you a legitimate member of the press or a professional photgrapher?
they are not worthless. and are very organized and many are friends of mine. that was pretty harsh and uncalled for.
did you contact rally america and the organizers before the event?
are you a legitimate member of the press or a professional photgrapher?
| jslegacy | 02-27-2005 07:49 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]they are not worthless. and are very organized and many are friends of mine. that was pretty harsh and uncalled for.
did you contact rally america and the organizers before the event?
are you a legitimate member of the press or a professional photgrapher?[/QUOTE]
I believe he was there to shoot for a magazine, not sure what happened with the mag and the event folks but i remember him saying something to me about it the other day.
I do agree that the comment was uncalled for, and is pretty harsh, just think that the organizers have a job to do to. It sucks that there was some mis-communication but isht happens.
-jeremy
did you contact rally america and the organizers before the event?
are you a legitimate member of the press or a professional photgrapher?[/QUOTE]
I believe he was there to shoot for a magazine, not sure what happened with the mag and the event folks but i remember him saying something to me about it the other day.
I do agree that the comment was uncalled for, and is pretty harsh, just think that the organizers have a job to do to. It sucks that there was some mis-communication but isht happens.
-jeremy
| thechickencow | 02-27-2005 07:54 PM |
Holy crap, there's us!
[img]http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/images/DSC_0956.jpg[/img]
Anybody else have pics of #583?
[img]http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/images/DSC_0956.jpg[/img]
Anybody else have pics of #583?
| Mopho | 02-27-2005 08:32 PM |
[QUOTE=D-I-Z-Z-L-E]lol just remembered, when you were walking around looking for a spot, i turned to my friend and noted to him that if you stood in my frame you would have recieved a branch to the back of the head.... ;)
P.S. i love the sun through the dust clowd shot... down the straightaway...[/QUOTE]
I heard that, so I was going to stand in front of you just to be a dick. :lol: But I decided to be nice and stand behind the tree ;)
In most cases, the organizers are not really in charge of the media passes anymore, it is up to Rally America. You need to contact them about credentials and you would need to prove that you are shooting for a legitimate media outlet.
P.S. i love the sun through the dust clowd shot... down the straightaway...[/QUOTE]
I heard that, so I was going to stand in front of you just to be a dick. :lol: But I decided to be nice and stand behind the tree ;)
In most cases, the organizers are not really in charge of the media passes anymore, it is up to Rally America. You need to contact them about credentials and you would need to prove that you are shooting for a legitimate media outlet.
| jslegacy | 02-27-2005 08:37 PM |
[QUOTE=FaastLegacy]And he was to the right of me, that 20D takes some damn good pictures.[/QUOTE]
yes and I am sure your pots and pans can cook great food :rolleyes:
yes and I am sure your pots and pans can cook great food :rolleyes:
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 10:37 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]I heard that, so I was going to stand in front of you just to be a dick. :lol: But I decided to be nice and stand behind the tree ;)
In most cases, the organizers are not really in charge of the media passes anymore, it is up to Rally America. You need to contact them about credentials and you would need to prove that you are shooting for a legitimate media outlet.[/QUOTE]
lol, I think those shots turned out even better though. I saw you struggling with the branches. Then said "f it I�ll shoot through them" and they look pimp... that camera must be really good because as everyone knows it�s not the photographer.... it�s the equipment :rolleyes:
And yeah sorry about the organizers comment. It was VERY safe for spectators and pretty well organized for the race. But the people we dealt with to get media access just bounced us around via e-mail and got us nowhere....
In most cases, the organizers are not really in charge of the media passes anymore, it is up to Rally America. You need to contact them about credentials and you would need to prove that you are shooting for a legitimate media outlet.[/QUOTE]
lol, I think those shots turned out even better though. I saw you struggling with the branches. Then said "f it I�ll shoot through them" and they look pimp... that camera must be really good because as everyone knows it�s not the photographer.... it�s the equipment :rolleyes:
And yeah sorry about the organizers comment. It was VERY safe for spectators and pretty well organized for the race. But the people we dealt with to get media access just bounced us around via e-mail and got us nowhere....
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 10:40 PM |
mopho if you get the time or a chance to look at my shots i would love a critique...
| jslegacy | 02-27-2005 10:43 PM |
dizz get back on AIM, my computer restarted
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-27-2005 11:14 PM |
[QUOTE=thechickencow]Holy crap, there's us!
[img]http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/images/DSC_0956.jpg[/img]
Anybody else have pics of #583?[/QUOTE]
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[img]http://www.rally-america.com/Archives/2005/100_Acre_Wood/day/data/gallery/100AW/images/DSC_0956.jpg[/img]
Anybody else have pics of #583?[/QUOTE]
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| Protege Menace | 02-28-2005 12:00 AM |
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thanks for taking some cool pics of us :disco:
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thanks for taking some cool pics of us :disco:
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 12:15 AM |
i think your parents were standing behind me.. when i shot stage 8. from minesota?
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 12:42 AM |
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| scoobyRx | 02-28-2005 12:47 AM |
now this is what I call a "fast sweep" vehicle
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also like the pic of 999 Jetta (that's Mr. Fat Tire beer, ya know)
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also like the pic of 999 Jetta (that's Mr. Fat Tire beer, ya know)
| thechickencow | 02-28-2005 10:33 AM |
Wow - thanks for the pics of my car, they look great!
I'll email you or something about usage permissions.
I'll email you or something about usage permissions.
| FaastLegacy | 02-28-2005 11:46 AM |
[QUOTE=jslegacy]yes and I am sure your pots and pans can cook great food :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Act like a dick much? :rolleyes:
-faast
Act like a dick much? :rolleyes:
-faast
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 12:24 PM |
yeah but he has the right to, he can make people dissapear.
| 10th Warrior | 02-28-2005 12:38 PM |
great pics Dimitry, and thanks for clarifying your statement about the organizers ;)
didn't get to see many cars in action, but had a blast working the event and fondling timing equipment that's probably worth more then my car :D of course, my car works correctly more often, too ;)
didn't get to see many cars in action, but had a blast working the event and fondling timing equipment that's probably worth more then my car :D of course, my car works correctly more often, too ;)
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 02:07 PM |
Thanks
heh, yeah, i was just mad that mopho had a vest ;) j/p
wish i could have shot more in better locations, m,aybe next year. you know of any close by rallys coming up? are there any?
heh, yeah, i was just mad that mopho had a vest ;) j/p
wish i could have shot more in better locations, m,aybe next year. you know of any close by rallys coming up? are there any?
| 10th Warrior | 02-28-2005 02:30 PM |
closest one is near Chattanoga, TN, coming up in a couple weeks. other then that, you have to go to MI, MN, or TX :(
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 02:38 PM |
:( that stinks... wasnt there something in Illinois?
| 10th Warrior | 02-28-2005 02:39 PM |
we have RallyCross ;) not quite the same though.
but yes, rally stinks in the midwest :(
but yes, rally stinks in the midwest :(
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 04:12 PM |
eh, it happens.... maybe some day there will be more ... it just needs more exposure.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 04:32 PM |
anybody have a links to the drivers websited or e-mails and what cars they drove. i want to send them the shots.
| Protege Menace | 02-28-2005 04:54 PM |
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kick ass! I didnt see that one
so these are the only pics you took of us? and any high res ones?
those were my drivers parents, and we are all from minnesota.
kick ass! I didnt see that one
so these are the only pics you took of us? and any high res ones?
those were my drivers parents, and we are all from minnesota.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 05:47 PM |
high rez? you mean like 30x40 size ;) yes i can get those.. and i have more shots of the car i believe, so do the 2 other photogs that were with me. come over to [url]www.missouriphoto.net[/url] they have some shots up. post up in the photo critique thread or in the general thread. we are currently all searching for all the drivers e-mails to send the shots to them.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 05:48 PM |
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| LegacyPGT | 02-28-2005 07:39 PM |
Hey D-I-Z-Z-L-E, you took some great shots of my Legacy, I like all of them. I'll have to get a hold of you about the rights with them. Also that was my old man that you were next too. Also Jay I have a great pic of you that my crew member snapped. a suby towing in a dsm :devil: :lol:
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 02-28-2005 07:48 PM |
get in touch with me... your parents are really nice people... they were standing right behind me so i dont know how much they got to see with me being right infront of them. They told me you were teh driver of the legacy so i figured i would try to snap more shots of it. i will get all the shots i have for ya.
| Protege Menace | 02-28-2005 07:50 PM |
sweet :D I posted in your forum.
usually its really hard to find pictures of the cars i race in, and most the time its only the teeny previews and you have to buy them. I'm glad you are willing to share yours. Do you sell them? if its a good price like winkers maybe i'll buy some.
usually its really hard to find pictures of the cars i race in, and most the time its only the teeny previews and you have to buy them. I'm glad you are willing to share yours. Do you sell them? if its a good price like winkers maybe i'll buy some.
| mike270 | 02-28-2005 08:07 PM |
That was your guys' legacy? I loved the way your car sounded. Mean and angry....just the way it should be.
| thechickencow | 02-28-2005 08:17 PM |
[QUOTE=LegacyPGT]Hey D-I-Z-Z-L-E, you took some great shots of my Legacy, I like all of them. I'll have to get a hold of you about the rights with them. Also that was my old man that you were next too. Also Jay I have a great pic of you that my crew member snapped. a suby towing in a dsm :devil: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Yeah yeah yeah... I owe you guys big time for that one for sure. It was fun comparing times with you guys also over the weekend.
[quote=mike270]That was your guys' legacy? I loved the way your car sounded. Mean and angry....just the way it should be.[/quote]
Sounds pretty good from about 10 feet behind it too!
Yeah yeah yeah... I owe you guys big time for that one for sure. It was fun comparing times with you guys also over the weekend.
[quote=mike270]That was your guys' legacy? I loved the way your car sounded. Mean and angry....just the way it should be.[/quote]
Sounds pretty good from about 10 feet behind it too!
| Eileen | 03-01-2005 01:36 AM |
Yellow vests
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Dimtry.........
My name is Eileen and I handled the press and pr for the CRNC committee. It was extremely difficult to get the yellow vests for the event, but not because of the committee that organized the event. Knowing the individual members who have spent the last year planning and organizing the CRNC weekend I do take personal offense to your earlier statements and appreciate those who similarly responded. I did take note that you edited your comments and rethought your original choice in wording. I too was frustrated by the media credentialling procedures. However, I would not have used such strong and inaccurate language.
The problem stems from insurance companies.
Rally America is not willing to risk their insurance on inexperienced media. I don't blame them. If they have NO insurance then there is NO performance rallying.
The $64,000 question is........how do you get experience shooting pictures of a performance rally to merit a yellow vest if you can't get the credentials to gain the experience? (It is like how do you get a job if no one will hire you because you've never had a job.) (Please see my next reply regarding WRC credentials.)
I'd be interested in any and all suggestions anyone might have. Dimtry feel free to submit my question to the missouri photography group you belong to as well and see what kind of response you receive from them. Please forward their recommendations to this message thread.
Where were your pictures taken? Also......for my own information.......please explain to me the difference in the photographs taken from a spectator point (which was available to all photographers) and those taken from a "yellow vest" area.
Where will your pictures be published? Have you sent copies of your pictures to Rally America and started (or continued to develop) a relationship with RA?
I will be happy to forward an email address of yours (please provide me one) to those teams I have an email address for. So far I have been unable to access your CRNC pictures from the front page of your website.
We hope to see you again next year.
My name is Eileen and I handled the press and pr for the CRNC committee. It was extremely difficult to get the yellow vests for the event, but not because of the committee that organized the event. Knowing the individual members who have spent the last year planning and organizing the CRNC weekend I do take personal offense to your earlier statements and appreciate those who similarly responded. I did take note that you edited your comments and rethought your original choice in wording. I too was frustrated by the media credentialling procedures. However, I would not have used such strong and inaccurate language.
The problem stems from insurance companies.
Rally America is not willing to risk their insurance on inexperienced media. I don't blame them. If they have NO insurance then there is NO performance rallying.
The $64,000 question is........how do you get experience shooting pictures of a performance rally to merit a yellow vest if you can't get the credentials to gain the experience? (It is like how do you get a job if no one will hire you because you've never had a job.) (Please see my next reply regarding WRC credentials.)
I'd be interested in any and all suggestions anyone might have. Dimtry feel free to submit my question to the missouri photography group you belong to as well and see what kind of response you receive from them. Please forward their recommendations to this message thread.
Where were your pictures taken? Also......for my own information.......please explain to me the difference in the photographs taken from a spectator point (which was available to all photographers) and those taken from a "yellow vest" area.
Where will your pictures be published? Have you sent copies of your pictures to Rally America and started (or continued to develop) a relationship with RA?
I will be happy to forward an email address of yours (please provide me one) to those teams I have an email address for. So far I have been unable to access your CRNC pictures from the front page of your website.
We hope to see you again next year.
| Eileen | 03-01-2005 01:49 AM |
WRC credentialling policies
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I've edited the information only slightly. I've noted key information in red.
My question again is........how do you get the experience to begin with in order to qualify for the media credentials.
Note the amount of PUBLISHED work one must have in the previous year and purchased at a fair price for the very limited number of credentials issued.
I've been around motorsports and the media in St. Louis for over 30 years now and the WRC criteria for accreditation blew me away. I also forwarded the criteria to two nationally prominent motorsports media members in St. Louis. One, while he wouldn't apply for such credentials, thought it was in line for the WRC. Another thought it was overkill.
2005 CRITERIA FOR JOURNALISTS AND PHOTOGRAPHER�S
ACCREDITATION TO THE FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
Permanent accreditation
To qualify for an FIA World Rally Championship permanent journalist or photographer�s credential, applicants must submit sample proofs of coverage to the FIA Press Council by the appropriate deadline.
The FIA Press Council is made up of eight leading international motor sport correspondents, a representative of motor sport photographers and FIA Press delegates from the key FIA Championships (Formula One, Formula 3000, World Rally Championship, GT Championship, World Touring Car Championship and Photographers� Delegate). The Press Council is chaired by the FIA Director of Communications.
The FIA Press Council meets annually to review applications and all applicants must fulfil the following basic criteria:
- [B][COLOR=Red]Minimum attendance on the previous year�s Championship: 11 events [/COLOR] [/B]
- Coverage:
For example for a daily newspaper, a story for each day of the event is required. An introductory story in the Thursday edition, follow-up stories in Friday, Saturday and, where applicable, Sunday editions, plus a rally report in the Monday edition.
The circulation criteria for permanent accreditation follows the same minimum requirements as for rally by rally accreditation (see below).
[COLOR=Red]To qualify for a permanent photographer�s pass, [B]at least 240 photographs, per pass issued, must have been published in the press during the previous year�s Championship[/B].[/COLOR]
- Quality:
The highest standards of fairness and accuracy are expected as a minimum quality requirement from the press.
Freelance journalists must apply for credentials via their own agencies. The onus is on the freelance applicant to prove the supply of regular stories to at least seven publications.
[COLOR=Red]Photo agencies must be able to prove that the pictures have been regularly sold to publications matching the FIA criteria and have been paid for at the normal commercial rate. A publication must be able to prove that the pictures published are the original work of the publication's accredited photographer. [/COLOR]
Rally by rally accreditation
To qualify for an FIA World Rally Championship event press credential, applicants must submit sample proofs of coverage to the FIA External Relations Department three weeks prior to the event.
Requests from National publications must be submitted to the National Press Officer four weeks prior to the event.
Accreditation decisions are made by the FIA WRC Press Delegate according to well established and well recognised principles and procedures:
- Respect of the accreditation deadline;
- Compliance with the requested elements of the procedure (formal request on the headed note paper signed by the Publisher or the Editor, sample of the publication, proofs of coverage, signed undertaking, ID photo and representative�s press card);
- Commitment of coverage devoted to FIA World Rally Championship;
- Match with circulation and/or quality criteria.
If a decision is disputed an individual application will be referred to the Director of Communications for final approval.
The FIA liaises closely with National Press Offices and National Sporting Authorities to confirm the validity of a given application.
The FIA will only allocate press accreditation to publications intending to publish a report related to the event for which the accreditation is requested.
The FIA will only accredit press from outside the country in which the event is held. National correspondents must apply via the event�s national press office.
Publications must be on sale to the general public (trade, club or internal company magazines will not be accredited).
Circulation:
- Accreditation decisions are based on the relative �media market� in the country of the applicant. For example, an application from a Slovenian national daily would not be compared to the same circulation requirements for that of a German national daily.
Given the above, the usual minimum circulation
a national weekly or monthly publication is 20,000 copies. For a national daily the minimum circulation is 50,000 copies.
Quality:
- The highest standards of fairness and accuracy are expected as a minimum quality requirement from the printed press.
Photographer�s applications must follow the same criteria as stated above. [COLOR=Red]Publications or agencies applying for single round accreditation must supply evidence of independent coverage of a minimum of 15 pictures per pass issued at each event they have been accredited to in the previous year�s Championship. The number of international "press photographer" passes will not exceed 30 at each event. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=Red]The number of national "press photographer" passes will not exceed 12 at each event. [/COLOR]
Web sites
All applications from web sites and other electronic media should be directed to International Sportsworld Communicators as with television and radio applications.
My question again is........how do you get the experience to begin with in order to qualify for the media credentials.
Note the amount of PUBLISHED work one must have in the previous year and purchased at a fair price for the very limited number of credentials issued.
I've been around motorsports and the media in St. Louis for over 30 years now and the WRC criteria for accreditation blew me away. I also forwarded the criteria to two nationally prominent motorsports media members in St. Louis. One, while he wouldn't apply for such credentials, thought it was in line for the WRC. Another thought it was overkill.
2005 CRITERIA FOR JOURNALISTS AND PHOTOGRAPHER�S
ACCREDITATION TO THE FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
Permanent accreditation
To qualify for an FIA World Rally Championship permanent journalist or photographer�s credential, applicants must submit sample proofs of coverage to the FIA Press Council by the appropriate deadline.
The FIA Press Council is made up of eight leading international motor sport correspondents, a representative of motor sport photographers and FIA Press delegates from the key FIA Championships (Formula One, Formula 3000, World Rally Championship, GT Championship, World Touring Car Championship and Photographers� Delegate). The Press Council is chaired by the FIA Director of Communications.
The FIA Press Council meets annually to review applications and all applicants must fulfil the following basic criteria:
- [B][COLOR=Red]Minimum attendance on the previous year�s Championship: 11 events [/COLOR] [/B]
- Coverage:
For example for a daily newspaper, a story for each day of the event is required. An introductory story in the Thursday edition, follow-up stories in Friday, Saturday and, where applicable, Sunday editions, plus a rally report in the Monday edition.
The circulation criteria for permanent accreditation follows the same minimum requirements as for rally by rally accreditation (see below).
[COLOR=Red]To qualify for a permanent photographer�s pass, [B]at least 240 photographs, per pass issued, must have been published in the press during the previous year�s Championship[/B].[/COLOR]
- Quality:
The highest standards of fairness and accuracy are expected as a minimum quality requirement from the press.
Freelance journalists must apply for credentials via their own agencies. The onus is on the freelance applicant to prove the supply of regular stories to at least seven publications.
[COLOR=Red]Photo agencies must be able to prove that the pictures have been regularly sold to publications matching the FIA criteria and have been paid for at the normal commercial rate. A publication must be able to prove that the pictures published are the original work of the publication's accredited photographer. [/COLOR]
Rally by rally accreditation
To qualify for an FIA World Rally Championship event press credential, applicants must submit sample proofs of coverage to the FIA External Relations Department three weeks prior to the event.
Requests from National publications must be submitted to the National Press Officer four weeks prior to the event.
Accreditation decisions are made by the FIA WRC Press Delegate according to well established and well recognised principles and procedures:
- Respect of the accreditation deadline;
- Compliance with the requested elements of the procedure (formal request on the headed note paper signed by the Publisher or the Editor, sample of the publication, proofs of coverage, signed undertaking, ID photo and representative�s press card);
- Commitment of coverage devoted to FIA World Rally Championship;
- Match with circulation and/or quality criteria.
If a decision is disputed an individual application will be referred to the Director of Communications for final approval.
The FIA liaises closely with National Press Offices and National Sporting Authorities to confirm the validity of a given application.
The FIA will only allocate press accreditation to publications intending to publish a report related to the event for which the accreditation is requested.
The FIA will only accredit press from outside the country in which the event is held. National correspondents must apply via the event�s national press office.
Publications must be on sale to the general public (trade, club or internal company magazines will not be accredited).
Circulation:
- Accreditation decisions are based on the relative �media market� in the country of the applicant. For example, an application from a Slovenian national daily would not be compared to the same circulation requirements for that of a German national daily.
Given the above, the usual minimum circulation
a national weekly or monthly publication is 20,000 copies. For a national daily the minimum circulation is 50,000 copies.
Quality:
- The highest standards of fairness and accuracy are expected as a minimum quality requirement from the printed press.
Photographer�s applications must follow the same criteria as stated above. [COLOR=Red]Publications or agencies applying for single round accreditation must supply evidence of independent coverage of a minimum of 15 pictures per pass issued at each event they have been accredited to in the previous year�s Championship. The number of international "press photographer" passes will not exceed 30 at each event. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=Red]The number of national "press photographer" passes will not exceed 12 at each event. [/COLOR]
Web sites
All applications from web sites and other electronic media should be directed to International Sportsworld Communicators as with television and radio applications.
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| Mopho | 03-01-2005 03:18 AM |
[QUOTE=Eileen]Dimtry.........
My name is Eileen and I handled the press and pr for the CRNC committee. It was extremely difficult to get the yellow vests for the event, but not because of the committee that organized the event.
The problem stems from insurance companies.
Rally America is not willing to risk their insurance on inexperienced media. I don't blame them. If they have NO insurance then there is NO performance rallying.
The $64,000 question is........how do you get experience shooting pictures of a performance rally to merit a yellow vest if you can't get the credentials to gain the experience? (It is like how do you get a job if no one will hire you because you've never had a job.) (Please see my next reply regarding WRC credentials.)
I'd be interested in any and all suggestions anyone might have. Dimtry feel free to submit my question to the missouri photography group you belong to as well and see what kind of response you receive from them. Please forward their recommendations to this message thread.[/QUOTE]
Eileen, I was instrumental in developing some of the rules behind getting media credentials for RA. Basically, one does not necessarily have to prove that they have rally experience, mainly they have to prove that they are shooting for a legitimate media outlet and are professional or semi professional photographers and that they are not just taking photos to share with their friends, etc.
The plan for photographers with little or no rally experience is to require them to buddy up with a photographer who is experienced and/or they will be restricted to spectator areas but will be allowed to go anywhere within the spectator area as long as they remain in view of the marshals, i.e. they will be allowed to go outside the yellow tape and cross the road, etc, but only in the spectator areas.
[QUOTE] Also......for my own information.......please explain to me the difference in the photographs taken from a spectator point (which was available to all photographers) and those taken from a "yellow vest" area. [/QUOTE]
The difference is that Dimitri was confined to an area behind the yellow tape, which was set way back in the trees, which did not allow him to possibly explore different angles. While he did a fine job with the cards dealt him, he was limited to what he could do.
That said, it was his responsibility to prove that he was there to shoot for a real magazine or other media outlet that would provide exposure for the event.
Re WRC credentials: Those rules you posted don't seem to be strictly adhered to and I think it is more to scare off the amatuers. Basically, the FIA is trying to do the same thing that RA is, that is keep the riffraff out. The rules you highlighted are for permanent credentials for a whole season, so of course that would be harder to get, and they want to make sure you commit to the whole season. Also keep in mind, when you have media credentials you can go pretty much anywhere in the WRC, you can go in the service areas and eat the teams food, and talk to the drivers, you can even goose Marcus Grohnholms co-driver, Timo Rautiainen (which I did, but that's a whole n'other story) so obviously they want to only allow people with a job to do this kind of access.
For just one event it is still somewhat difficult to get credentials and they will turn down people, but if you know the right people and/or are a legitimate [b]professional[/b] photographer, it can be done even if you have never been to a WRC
I have been credentialed for WRC events several times and I just had to prove I was published and that I was at the rally for a legitimate media outlet, which I had to have my editor send in an application.
I have seen people get credentials on the spot.
It also depends on the individual rally and who you know to some degree it seems
My name is Eileen and I handled the press and pr for the CRNC committee. It was extremely difficult to get the yellow vests for the event, but not because of the committee that organized the event.
The problem stems from insurance companies.
Rally America is not willing to risk their insurance on inexperienced media. I don't blame them. If they have NO insurance then there is NO performance rallying.
The $64,000 question is........how do you get experience shooting pictures of a performance rally to merit a yellow vest if you can't get the credentials to gain the experience? (It is like how do you get a job if no one will hire you because you've never had a job.) (Please see my next reply regarding WRC credentials.)
I'd be interested in any and all suggestions anyone might have. Dimtry feel free to submit my question to the missouri photography group you belong to as well and see what kind of response you receive from them. Please forward their recommendations to this message thread.[/QUOTE]
Eileen, I was instrumental in developing some of the rules behind getting media credentials for RA. Basically, one does not necessarily have to prove that they have rally experience, mainly they have to prove that they are shooting for a legitimate media outlet and are professional or semi professional photographers and that they are not just taking photos to share with their friends, etc.
The plan for photographers with little or no rally experience is to require them to buddy up with a photographer who is experienced and/or they will be restricted to spectator areas but will be allowed to go anywhere within the spectator area as long as they remain in view of the marshals, i.e. they will be allowed to go outside the yellow tape and cross the road, etc, but only in the spectator areas.
[QUOTE] Also......for my own information.......please explain to me the difference in the photographs taken from a spectator point (which was available to all photographers) and those taken from a "yellow vest" area. [/QUOTE]
The difference is that Dimitri was confined to an area behind the yellow tape, which was set way back in the trees, which did not allow him to possibly explore different angles. While he did a fine job with the cards dealt him, he was limited to what he could do.
That said, it was his responsibility to prove that he was there to shoot for a real magazine or other media outlet that would provide exposure for the event.
Re WRC credentials: Those rules you posted don't seem to be strictly adhered to and I think it is more to scare off the amatuers. Basically, the FIA is trying to do the same thing that RA is, that is keep the riffraff out. The rules you highlighted are for permanent credentials for a whole season, so of course that would be harder to get, and they want to make sure you commit to the whole season. Also keep in mind, when you have media credentials you can go pretty much anywhere in the WRC, you can go in the service areas and eat the teams food, and talk to the drivers, you can even goose Marcus Grohnholms co-driver, Timo Rautiainen (which I did, but that's a whole n'other story) so obviously they want to only allow people with a job to do this kind of access.
For just one event it is still somewhat difficult to get credentials and they will turn down people, but if you know the right people and/or are a legitimate [b]professional[/b] photographer, it can be done even if you have never been to a WRC
I have been credentialed for WRC events several times and I just had to prove I was published and that I was at the rally for a legitimate media outlet, which I had to have my editor send in an application.
I have seen people get credentials on the spot.
It also depends on the individual rally and who you know to some degree it seems
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-01-2005 03:38 AM |
Eileen,
Thank you for the reply,
As I stated before I do apologize for the harsh words, they were uncalled for especially on a public forum.
Now to business.
I understand that the rally is serious and a moderately followed event. However you cannot come close to comparing the 100acrewood rally to even the smallest and furthest from civilization WRC event.
When I came down to the rally I had 3 magazines that were interested in images, 1 Is a Subaru magazine, they would not be able to publish the event coverage however they were interested in separate images, the other one is an import tuning magazine that could have published the race and images, the third is an online magazine that could have as well published the coverage and images. 3 of us for around a month tried to contact different people and were told that press "passes" were on their way. When they didn�t show up a few days prior to the race we contacted the person again who then directed us to someone else who after not replying till 1 day before the race just told us to shoot from the spectator area.
As I told the chairman of the rally via e-mail I was warned about the press credentials issue by several people including magazine editors. And was told exactly what would happen when I got there, and exactly what I was told happened. This was my first SCCA/Rally-America experience and I hope not last, but I can for sure say that I will not return to cover/shoot any more of these events without knowing 100% that I would have a photo vest. It is very disappointing to have shots planned out and see locations witch would be ideal for photos and not be able to get there or take the shots that you want.
I thought the event itself was very organized and very safe for drivers and spectators.
Great job on that end!!!
My e-mail is at the top of the gallery I posted.
[url]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreWebGallery/[/url]
Feel free to send my e-mail and a link to my gallery to the drivers in the race. I will gladly talk to them and provide them with images. There are obviously boundaries to what I can let the images be used for and we can work that out amongst ourselves.
Again thanks for the post and the clarification on photo credentials.
[img]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/Dorifto%209-26-04/dorriftoincar.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/Dorifto%209-26-04/Doriftoincar.jpg[/img]
AAll I had to do was have an editor call my name in and get me a press pass to get those images from inside the race cars. I am not saying I wanted to be inside the cars with the racers. The majority of my shots were from stage 8 spectator area. I had to clear away brush and dead trees to get a clear shot. I also had to be there 1.5 hrs early to get the 3ft space I needed for me to get "decent" images. This time constraint is pretty much a kill for me going to the stage before 8 and making it to 8 to shoot anything. Directly Across form where I was shooting was a perfect spot for a wide angle pan shot. The car would be angled directly at me and I would be on the inside of the turn. There was a small hump on the inside of the turn that would have given me perfect position to take some great shots. I could not do this. moss[img]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreWebGallery/images/IMG_3074.jpg[/img]
(You can see that i am not lying, i was literally on the ground)
The first stage i went to. I had to lay down on wet moss AFTER I got permission from the man who was standing over me... he at first told me that he had been there 1.5 hours early, implying that "I had some nerve" to even ask to get in front of him. I had to beg him and explain that I would be laying on the ground and he wouldn�t even see me (Laying on the ground isn�t exactly a safe way to get away from a fast moving car, but it was the only way to get a shot. there was not ONE spot with a clear line for me to shoot.
WOW, I think I have gone on a bit too much. Please contact me via e-mail if you would like to talk to me some more Eileen. And again thank you for the post.
Thank you for the reply,
As I stated before I do apologize for the harsh words, they were uncalled for especially on a public forum.
Now to business.
I understand that the rally is serious and a moderately followed event. However you cannot come close to comparing the 100acrewood rally to even the smallest and furthest from civilization WRC event.
When I came down to the rally I had 3 magazines that were interested in images, 1 Is a Subaru magazine, they would not be able to publish the event coverage however they were interested in separate images, the other one is an import tuning magazine that could have published the race and images, the third is an online magazine that could have as well published the coverage and images. 3 of us for around a month tried to contact different people and were told that press "passes" were on their way. When they didn�t show up a few days prior to the race we contacted the person again who then directed us to someone else who after not replying till 1 day before the race just told us to shoot from the spectator area.
As I told the chairman of the rally via e-mail I was warned about the press credentials issue by several people including magazine editors. And was told exactly what would happen when I got there, and exactly what I was told happened. This was my first SCCA/Rally-America experience and I hope not last, but I can for sure say that I will not return to cover/shoot any more of these events without knowing 100% that I would have a photo vest. It is very disappointing to have shots planned out and see locations witch would be ideal for photos and not be able to get there or take the shots that you want.
I thought the event itself was very organized and very safe for drivers and spectators.
Great job on that end!!!
My e-mail is at the top of the gallery I posted.
[url]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreWebGallery/[/url]
Feel free to send my e-mail and a link to my gallery to the drivers in the race. I will gladly talk to them and provide them with images. There are obviously boundaries to what I can let the images be used for and we can work that out amongst ourselves.
Again thanks for the post and the clarification on photo credentials.
[img]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/Dorifto%209-26-04/dorriftoincar.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/Dorifto%209-26-04/Doriftoincar.jpg[/img]
AAll I had to do was have an editor call my name in and get me a press pass to get those images from inside the race cars. I am not saying I wanted to be inside the cars with the racers. The majority of my shots were from stage 8 spectator area. I had to clear away brush and dead trees to get a clear shot. I also had to be there 1.5 hrs early to get the 3ft space I needed for me to get "decent" images. This time constraint is pretty much a kill for me going to the stage before 8 and making it to 8 to shoot anything. Directly Across form where I was shooting was a perfect spot for a wide angle pan shot. The car would be angled directly at me and I would be on the inside of the turn. There was a small hump on the inside of the turn that would have given me perfect position to take some great shots. I could not do this. moss[img]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreWebGallery/images/IMG_3074.jpg[/img]
(You can see that i am not lying, i was literally on the ground)
The first stage i went to. I had to lay down on wet moss AFTER I got permission from the man who was standing over me... he at first told me that he had been there 1.5 hours early, implying that "I had some nerve" to even ask to get in front of him. I had to beg him and explain that I would be laying on the ground and he wouldn�t even see me (Laying on the ground isn�t exactly a safe way to get away from a fast moving car, but it was the only way to get a shot. there was not ONE spot with a clear line for me to shoot.
WOW, I think I have gone on a bit too much. Please contact me via e-mail if you would like to talk to me some more Eileen. And again thank you for the post.
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-01-2005 03:49 AM |
Thanks for the post Morgan,
I am not even near the same league as you are in automotive photography, however i have been "published" i learn more and more at every event i go to. It would have been great to get partnered up with you... I am sure i would have learned TONS...
my safetey is my first priority, i know a camera can be replaced, so i really was not worried about me putting myself in a situation that i couldnt get out of, i even told the fans around me that if anything, i am heading left so they better be moving as well :)
i dont even know why i posted all that, its 3 am, i am going to sleep :)
I am not even near the same league as you are in automotive photography, however i have been "published" i learn more and more at every event i go to. It would have been great to get partnered up with you... I am sure i would have learned TONS...
my safetey is my first priority, i know a camera can be replaced, so i really was not worried about me putting myself in a situation that i couldnt get out of, i even told the fans around me that if anything, i am heading left so they better be moving as well :)
i dont even know why i posted all that, its 3 am, i am going to sleep :)
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-01-2005 03:52 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]
The difference is that Dimitri [/QUOTE]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=DimGray]Cough[/COLOR][/SIZE]DMITRY[SIZE=1][COLOR=DimGray]Cough[/COLOR][/SIZE]
:D
[IMG]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/turn.gif[/IMG]
The difference is that Dimitri [/QUOTE]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=DimGray]Cough[/COLOR][/SIZE]DMITRY[SIZE=1][COLOR=DimGray]Cough[/COLOR][/SIZE]
:D
[IMG]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/turn.gif[/IMG]
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-01-2005 04:45 AM |
Here is every image i have, sinse i wont be selling them to anyone... here are the low res images of all the shots.
[url]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreAll/[/url]
if you do want to purchase, or would like a full rez shot please contact me
[url]http://www.dzmedia.com/dmitry/Photography/Auto/100acrerally/100AcreAll/[/url]
if you do want to purchase, or would like a full rez shot please contact me
| MJU1983 | 03-01-2005 10:45 PM |
[QUOTE=Eileen]
I'd be interested in any and all suggestions anyone might have. Dimtry feel free to submit my question to the missouri photography group you belong to as well and see what kind of response you receive from them. Please forward their recommendations to this message thread.
[/QUOTE]
Eyeleen,
He started that group. And it is [b]Dmitry.[/b]
-Mike
I'd be interested in any and all suggestions anyone might have. Dimtry feel free to submit my question to the missouri photography group you belong to as well and see what kind of response you receive from them. Please forward their recommendations to this message thread.
[/QUOTE]
Eyeleen,
He started that group. And it is [b]Dmitry.[/b]
-Mike
| Mopho | 03-01-2005 10:59 PM |
[QUOTE=MJU1983]Eyeleen,
. And it is [b]Dmitry.[/b]
-Mike[/QUOTE]
Yes, we established that
And it is Eileen
what are you twelve? :rolleyes:
If you spell your name in an unusual way, people are bound to screw it up, comes with the territory
. And it is [b]Dmitry.[/b]
-Mike[/QUOTE]
Yes, we established that
And it is Eileen
what are you twelve? :rolleyes:
If you spell your name in an unusual way, people are bound to screw it up, comes with the territory
| MJU1983 | 03-01-2005 11:02 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Yes, we established that
And it is Eileen
what are you twelve? :rolleyes:
If you spell your name in an unusual way, people are bound to screw it up, comes with the territory[/QUOTE]
That's how a lot of Russian people spell their name.
Im almost 12.
Ah, the "rolleyes" smiley... My most hated of all smileys.
-Mike
And it is Eileen
what are you twelve? :rolleyes:
If you spell your name in an unusual way, people are bound to screw it up, comes with the territory[/QUOTE]
That's how a lot of Russian people spell their name.
Im almost 12.
Ah, the "rolleyes" smiley... My most hated of all smileys.
-Mike
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-01-2005 11:08 PM |
mike get the F out... this isnt OT i dont need backup....
P.S. :rolleyes: x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.000002
P.S. :rolleyes: x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.000002
| Mopho | 03-01-2005 11:27 PM |
+:rolleyes:
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-01-2005 11:28 PM |
oh... SNAP!!
| MJU1983 | 03-01-2005 11:34 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]+:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://jwitech.com/gallery/data/media/6/haha.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://jwitech.com/gallery/data/media/6/haha.jpg[/IMG]
| Protege Menace | 03-02-2005 12:55 AM |
ANYWAYS, back to the main subject.
dmitry, how much would the high res version of one pic be? could you print it off or allow me print it if i buy the HR?
dmitry, how much would the high res version of one pic be? could you print it off or allow me print it if i buy the HR?
| D-I-Z-Z-L-E | 03-02-2005 12:57 AM |
what would you want? i can get one printed. or multiple.. what size do you want...? i can get you both...
| bgoez | 03-06-2005 07:17 AM |
In response to the difficulty Dmitry had in getting a vest...... I was a volenteer radio operator and had absolutely no trouble getting a vest and being close to the racing action. The race organizers didn't fear that I was in any danger. How difficult would it be to put a camera person with one of these crews to take shots. We took some pictures as the race went on and still performed our tasks to the best of our abilities
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