| scottvw13 | 03-01-2007 12:46 PM |
Best STU Tire for 2007? Need some help choosing!
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Ok, I know this has been discussed to some degree, but I can't really make heads or tails of my search results.
I am looking for an STU tire for 2007. I'd like a 245/40/17. These will be daily driven, so I'd prefer not to have to shave. I run in and around CT, mostly on asphalt.
I would appreciate ANY opinions regarding the following, and any I might have missed.
My decision comes down to the following:
[B]Falken 615 [/B]- Not really crazy about 245/35/17 size. Sounds like it has one of the better sidewalls. Good price.
[B]Yoko Neova[/B] - Right size, performance, etc. Wrong price. I'd rather not spend $1k plus. Aside from price, it sounds like this is the tire to have
[B]Hankook Z212[/B] Good bang for the buck, but sloppy sidewall. Rather not have to shave.
[B]RE070[/B] right price, but how much performance am I giving up with the 225 width?
[B]Advan 046[/B] - The stock evo tire. Better performing than the Re070? About the same price, can be purchased used for cheap
[B]RE01R[/B] - At the moment, this is where I am leaning. Right size (245/40/17) decent price. Seems like performance very close to Neova at $250 a set less cost.
Is there anything else I am missing? Anything that will be coming out during thenext month or so?
Thanks very much for your help!
I am looking for an STU tire for 2007. I'd like a 245/40/17. These will be daily driven, so I'd prefer not to have to shave. I run in and around CT, mostly on asphalt.
I would appreciate ANY opinions regarding the following, and any I might have missed.
My decision comes down to the following:
[B]Falken 615 [/B]- Not really crazy about 245/35/17 size. Sounds like it has one of the better sidewalls. Good price.
[B]Yoko Neova[/B] - Right size, performance, etc. Wrong price. I'd rather not spend $1k plus. Aside from price, it sounds like this is the tire to have
[B]Hankook Z212[/B] Good bang for the buck, but sloppy sidewall. Rather not have to shave.
[B]RE070[/B] right price, but how much performance am I giving up with the 225 width?
[B]Advan 046[/B] - The stock evo tire. Better performing than the Re070? About the same price, can be purchased used for cheap
[B]RE01R[/B] - At the moment, this is where I am leaning. Right size (245/40/17) decent price. Seems like performance very close to Neova at $250 a set less cost.
Is there anything else I am missing? Anything that will be coming out during thenext month or so?
Thanks very much for your help!
| BlkWRXWag | 03-01-2007 01:55 PM |
Well, the best tire is the Neova. However, if money is a concern, I would probably go for the RE01R. I don't think the Falken 615 comes in a 245/35/17. AFAIK, it is 245/45/17 only. Plenty of people use the Falken - personally I did not like them for STU, but they are cheap and good.
| Chiketkd | 03-01-2007 02:03 PM |
^
Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.
Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.
| Funky | 03-01-2007 02:11 PM |
For doing regional stuff when tire money is a concern I'd do RE070. If you are doing national stuff, Neovas are it. (contingency money can help offset their increased cost assuming you win)
Looking forward to meeting you at Atwater Max! :)
Looking forward to meeting you at Atwater Max! :)
| BlkWRXWag | 03-01-2007 02:19 PM |
Well, it depends on your region:) RE070's are a great tire though - you're not giving up much to a Neova.
See you in Atwater Funky. You should come down here for the El Toro Pro.
See you in Atwater Funky. You should come down here for the El Toro Pro.
| scottvw13 | 03-01-2007 02:23 PM |
This is great info guys, I do appreciate it.
Surprising amount of respect for the factory stockers, despite the width disadvantage.
What do you guys think about the RE01R's compared to the RE070's?
Surprising amount of respect for the factory stockers, despite the width disadvantage.
What do you guys think about the RE01R's compared to the RE070's?
| vanskater | 03-01-2007 03:00 PM |
i like my Hankook vents RS-2
| BlkWRXWag | 03-01-2007 04:17 PM |
[QUOTE=vanskater;17224867]i like my Hankook vents RS-2[/QUOTE]
Again, a fine choice locally although I believe the sidewall is a bit soft for a STI.
Hancook is offering contingency this year, so you might get a few more people trying them in STU.
I would try the RE01R, but they don't pay Contingency. I won enough money last year for 3 sets of Yoks.
Again, a fine choice locally although I believe the sidewall is a bit soft for a STI.
Hancook is offering contingency this year, so you might get a few more people trying them in STU.
I would try the RE01R, but they don't pay Contingency. I won enough money last year for 3 sets of Yoks.
| AndrewSS | 03-01-2007 04:34 PM |
I am almost 100% set on getting hankook RS2's this season. They are a good tire from what I have read they have great grip, just a bit of a soft sidewall... but thats not a "huge" problem... I ran neova's this season and they were good but I dont wanna pay big $$$ again....
| Funky | 03-01-2007 04:46 PM |
[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag;17224326]Well, it depends on your region:) RE070's are a great tire though - you're not giving up much to a Neova.
See you in Atwater Funky. You should come down here for the El Toro Pro.[/QUOTE]
I had thought about doing El Toro, but couldn't work the trip into my schedule with the long drive and all. I'm registered for Atwater already, #14STU, should be good fun.
See you in Atwater Funky. You should come down here for the El Toro Pro.[/QUOTE]
I had thought about doing El Toro, but couldn't work the trip into my schedule with the long drive and all. I'm registered for Atwater already, #14STU, should be good fun.
| Crash477 | 03-01-2007 07:44 PM |
Ive driven on the RT615's, RS2's, and RE070's. I like the 615 and re070s the best out of those. The hankook has too soft a side wall for my preference. Since you will be DDing the car, I recomend the RE01R. I have heard great things about this tire, and it is up there in my choice for next tire
| tuskenraider | 03-01-2007 11:39 PM |
So anyone tried to alleviate the soft sidewall of the RS2 by running them with 50lbs. or so of air before giving up on them?
| PhilC | 03-02-2007 09:09 AM |
You're much better off just tuning the car for the tire than trying to tune the tire to the car. Setup for the RS-2s is not the same as the setup for the old 215s is not the same as setup for the 615s is not the same as setup for the Neovas.... You get the idea. Each tire preforms best when it is worked a slightly different way and few people have spent the effort to tune a car to the RS-2s, everyone just repeats the "they have soft sidewalls" line. Simple example, the Neovas like a lot less static camber up front than the 215s did.
You can win national events on any of the tires listed IMO, you just can't cookie cutter someone else's setup from a different tire. When everyone used the 215 you could pretty well copy another persons setup but with the different tires that is just not the case anymore.
I find it curious that the OP feels the Hankooks would need shaved but you think the REs and Neovas wouldn't. I've seen all three start to chunk even when shaved.
You can win national events on any of the tires listed IMO, you just can't cookie cutter someone else's setup from a different tire. When everyone used the 215 you could pretty well copy another persons setup but with the different tires that is just not the case anymore.
I find it curious that the OP feels the Hankooks would need shaved but you think the REs and Neovas wouldn't. I've seen all three start to chunk even when shaved.
| Silencer | 03-02-2007 09:58 AM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;17224107]^
Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.[/QUOTE]
lol, Max got beat by the RE-01R's at the 06' Solo2 Nat's and the AD07's are not close to the RA-01's.
Sorry Max, just giving your fan club a hard time.;)
Dave
Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.[/QUOTE]
lol, Max got beat by the RE-01R's at the 06' Solo2 Nat's and the AD07's are not close to the RA-01's.
Sorry Max, just giving your fan club a hard time.;)
Dave
| Silencer | 03-02-2007 10:03 AM |
What about the Continental ContiSportContact or the newest "3" version. Baring the results at Nat's, how did Steve Rankins like them overall?
There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?
Dave
There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?
Dave
| Chiketkd | 03-02-2007 10:19 AM |
[QUOTE=Silencer;17233389]Sorry Max, just giving your fan club a hard time.;) [/QUOTE]
Hey there! I resemble that remark! :p
[QUOTE=Silencer;17233436]What about the Continental ContiSportContact or the newest "3" version. Baring the results at Nat's, how did Steve Rankins like them overall?
There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?
Dave[/QUOTE]
Steve couldn't legally use the ContiSport Contact 3's as they weren't available stateside at the time Nationals took place IIRC... He had to run Contact 2's and finished ~17th. Steve has mentioned that the Contact 3's are much grippier than the Contact 2's though.
Hey there! I resemble that remark! :p
[QUOTE=Silencer;17233436]What about the Continental ContiSportContact or the newest "3" version. Baring the results at Nat's, how did Steve Rankins like them overall?
There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?
Dave[/QUOTE]
Steve couldn't legally use the ContiSport Contact 3's as they weren't available stateside at the time Nationals took place IIRC... He had to run Contact 2's and finished ~17th. Steve has mentioned that the Contact 3's are much grippier than the Contact 2's though.
| BlkWRXWag | 03-02-2007 11:42 AM |
[QUOTE=Silencer;17233389]lol, Max got beat by the RE-01R's at the 06' Solo2 Nat's and the AD07's are not close to the RA-01's.
Dave[/QUOTE]
Bugger off Dave:D
He does have a point though - there is not much difference between the Neova and the RE-01R... it comes down to the driver in the end.
I creamed Dave in the Pro, and he just slightly beat me in Champ:banana:
Dave[/QUOTE]
Bugger off Dave:D
He does have a point though - there is not much difference between the Neova and the RE-01R... it comes down to the driver in the end.
I creamed Dave in the Pro, and he just slightly beat me in Champ:banana:
| Crash477 | 03-02-2007 08:32 PM |
For the Hankook RS2, you need alot of negative camber, like -3 degrees
| Mind | 03-02-2007 10:38 PM |
Which tire do you think would be best for a car running stock-ish camber (-1.0 degrees)? I'm thinking something ultra-stiff, like the RE070?
| Crash477 | 03-02-2007 10:58 PM |
The Falken RT615 would be great, plus its cheap! They have a very stiff sidewall and doesnt need alot of camber..
| DrBiggly | 03-03-2007 12:09 AM |
The RE070 (and other Bridgestone tires for that matter) has something that the Falken, Hankook, and basically nobody else has in a sidewall: A concave design. Upon heavy cornering with little camber, it is much more difficult to fold under versus a regular sidewall design since the sidewall basically compresses rather than rolls. For camber challenged vehicles, this is my unequivocal recommendation, seconded only by the RE01R. :)
-Biggly
-Biggly
| Mind | 03-03-2007 08:43 PM |
^Great info. I was not aware that the sidewalls were concave; I knew they were stiff, but not concave.
DrBiggly, does your recommendation also stand for stock-cambered vehicles when considering the availability of other tires in wider sizes (ie RE070 rollover resistance vs. wider tires)?
DrBiggly, does your recommendation also stand for stock-cambered vehicles when considering the availability of other tires in wider sizes (ie RE070 rollover resistance vs. wider tires)?
| scottvw13 | 03-03-2007 09:10 PM |
Thank you all for all of the GREAT info.
I found a set of RE070's with more than half tread for $200 locally, so I wen t that direction based on all the great responses.
If I end up competing beyond the local level, I'll look to spend the extra money on RE01R's or Neovas...
I found a set of RE070's with more than half tread for $200 locally, so I wen t that direction based on all the great responses.
If I end up competing beyond the local level, I'll look to spend the extra money on RE01R's or Neovas...
| Chiketkd | 03-03-2007 09:15 PM |
Good choice. FWIW, the tread width of the 225 RE070 is actually 1/10" wider than the Evo's 235 Advan 046 tire.
| REX8 | 03-03-2007 10:19 PM |
[QUOTE=Chiketkd;17224107]^
Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.[/QUOTE]
OMG you read his profile too! ;)
Ever been on RA-1's? There's still a hefty gap.... Who in the world said that???
Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.[/QUOTE]
OMG you read his profile too! ;)
Ever been on RA-1's? There's still a hefty gap.... Who in the world said that???
| DrBiggly | 03-04-2007 12:03 AM |
[QUOTE=Mind;17248022]^Great info. I was not aware that the sidewalls were concave; I knew they were stiff, but not concave.
DrBiggly, does your recommendation also stand for stock-cambered vehicles when considering the availability of other tires in wider sizes (ie RE070 rollover resistance vs. wider tires)?[/QUOTE]
Yes. If you can't get the camber, pick the tire design that doesn't take such a hit from lack of it. The extra bit of width on a wider non-RE070 tire wouldn't matter really since it's not being used properly anyway; can't make up for the lack of camber in my opinion. :)
-Biggly
P.S. I see that the OP has gone with the RE070s for a good deal. Wear those out, then go for something else and all of that experience will come in handy later...without paying megabuck prices. Way to roll. :banana:
DrBiggly, does your recommendation also stand for stock-cambered vehicles when considering the availability of other tires in wider sizes (ie RE070 rollover resistance vs. wider tires)?[/QUOTE]
Yes. If you can't get the camber, pick the tire design that doesn't take such a hit from lack of it. The extra bit of width on a wider non-RE070 tire wouldn't matter really since it's not being used properly anyway; can't make up for the lack of camber in my opinion. :)
-Biggly
P.S. I see that the OP has gone with the RE070s for a good deal. Wear those out, then go for something else and all of that experience will come in handy later...without paying megabuck prices. Way to roll. :banana:
| Chiketkd | 03-04-2007 12:04 AM |
[QUOTE=REX8;17248642]OMG you read his profile too! ;)
Ever been on RA-1's? There's still a hefty gap.... Who in the world said that???[/QUOTE]
No. Actually, Max started a thread on clubwrx prior to leaving for Topeka in '06 and I followed his progress.
I actually raced on 235/40/17 RA-1's last season. ;) I was following a thread on sccaforums (IIRC) in which the discussion was centered around which ST* tire offered the most grip - one member mentioned that in a test they did at an event, shaved Advan Neovas were slightly faster than RA-1's in a similar size. One person, one test - but it's testament to the fact that ST* legal street rubber is getting faster each year!
Ever been on RA-1's? There's still a hefty gap.... Who in the world said that???[/QUOTE]
No. Actually, Max started a thread on clubwrx prior to leaving for Topeka in '06 and I followed his progress.
I actually raced on 235/40/17 RA-1's last season. ;) I was following a thread on sccaforums (IIRC) in which the discussion was centered around which ST* tire offered the most grip - one member mentioned that in a test they did at an event, shaved Advan Neovas were slightly faster than RA-1's in a similar size. One person, one test - but it's testament to the fact that ST* legal street rubber is getting faster each year!
| Sideshowbob | 03-04-2007 12:17 AM |
[QUOTE=PhilC;17232964]You're much better off just tuning the car for the tire than trying to tune the tire to the car. Setup for the RS-2s is not the same as the setup for the old 215s is not the same as setup for the 615s is not the same as setup for the Neovas.... You get the idea. Each tire preforms best when it is worked a slightly different way and few people have spent the effort to tune a car to the RS-2s, everyone just repeats the "they have soft sidewalls" line. Simple example, the Neovas like a lot less static camber up front than the 215s did.
[/QUOTE]
Interesting.
Any specific notes on RS-2 setup?
[/QUOTE]
Interesting.
Any specific notes on RS-2 setup?
| PhilC | 03-04-2007 10:03 AM |
[QUOTE=Sideshowbob;17249289]Interesting.
Any specific notes on RS-2 setup?[/QUOTE]
I've not actually driven the RS-2s. I've just had to listen to Hoppe tell me why I should. :) So I don't really have any specifics on them. I think that Biggly stuck with the Hankooks after buying Tom's old car and could perhaps chime in though.
Any specific notes on RS-2 setup?[/QUOTE]
I've not actually driven the RS-2s. I've just had to listen to Hoppe tell me why I should. :) So I don't really have any specifics on them. I think that Biggly stuck with the Hankooks after buying Tom's old car and could perhaps chime in though.
| Sideshowbob | 03-04-2007 10:46 AM |
Calling Biggly!
| littlewhitewagon | 03-04-2007 11:00 AM |
[QUOTE=Silencer;17233436]What about the Continental ContiSportContact or the newest "3" version. Baring the results at Nat's, how did Steve Rankins like them overall?
There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?
Dave[/QUOTE]
The DZ101 has a soft sidewall and likes pressure and camber. I find that they are not very good at telling you that the limit is approaching and lets go before you realize it. Maybe my setup didn't work well... they also need constant attention to keep air in them.
There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?
Dave[/QUOTE]
The DZ101 has a soft sidewall and likes pressure and camber. I find that they are not very good at telling you that the limit is approaching and lets go before you realize it. Maybe my setup didn't work well... they also need constant attention to keep air in them.
| Scoob5555 | 03-04-2007 01:03 PM |
[QUOTE=Sideshowbob;17249289]Interesting.
Any specific notes on RS-2 setup?[/QUOTE]
I'm not exactly a national-level driver (yet) but I ran the R-S2 all last season in Philly, South Jersey, and Northern Jersey regions, so I know the tires pretty well. On my old GC, I ran almost -3 degrees camber in the front (stock sway) and -2.5 degrees in the rear (24 mm sway). Obviously my car is somewhat lighter than the GD hogs, but the R-S2 require a lot of camber, regardless. But they never overheated on me and they never got greasy as many of my competitors had happen with the Azenis. I ran 23 events (avg of 5 runs per event over the season) and the tires never gave up any time until the last event, so longevity was not a problem. I also DD them the entire year and they were excellent rain or shine.
That said, I'm switching to the RT-615 this year and will be modifying my setup appropriately. Going for more caster than camber and a larger front sway. From what i've seen around here, even Pep Boys Federal tires will work for the GD cars in capable hands. Though I don't see too many of those...:lol:
Any specific notes on RS-2 setup?[/QUOTE]
I'm not exactly a national-level driver (yet) but I ran the R-S2 all last season in Philly, South Jersey, and Northern Jersey regions, so I know the tires pretty well. On my old GC, I ran almost -3 degrees camber in the front (stock sway) and -2.5 degrees in the rear (24 mm sway). Obviously my car is somewhat lighter than the GD hogs, but the R-S2 require a lot of camber, regardless. But they never overheated on me and they never got greasy as many of my competitors had happen with the Azenis. I ran 23 events (avg of 5 runs per event over the season) and the tires never gave up any time until the last event, so longevity was not a problem. I also DD them the entire year and they were excellent rain or shine.
That said, I'm switching to the RT-615 this year and will be modifying my setup appropriately. Going for more caster than camber and a larger front sway. From what i've seen around here, even Pep Boys Federal tires will work for the GD cars in capable hands. Though I don't see too many of those...:lol:
| Silencer | 03-04-2007 09:03 PM |
[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag;17234640]Bugger off Dave:D
He does have a point though - there is not much difference between the Neova and the RE-01R... it comes down to the driver in the end.
I creamed Dave in the Pro, and he just slightly beat me in Champ:banana:[/QUOTE]
That dam front lsd, does it everytime, lol.
Looking forward to see you in Heartland Park again. Good luck to you and Rick at the SD event coming up.:)
IMO, the payout is the difference in tires, no doubt.
Dave
He does have a point though - there is not much difference between the Neova and the RE-01R... it comes down to the driver in the end.
I creamed Dave in the Pro, and he just slightly beat me in Champ:banana:[/QUOTE]
That dam front lsd, does it everytime, lol.
Looking forward to see you in Heartland Park again. Good luck to you and Rick at the SD event coming up.:)
IMO, the payout is the difference in tires, no doubt.
Dave
| BlkWRXWag | 03-04-2007 09:34 PM |
Have you tried the Neova Dave? If so, what do you feel the differences are between that and the RE01R?
Thanks - SD should be interesting. Rumor has it that Brian Peters is stupidly quick. He'll be driving Balducci's car.
Thanks - SD should be interesting. Rumor has it that Brian Peters is stupidly quick. He'll be driving Balducci's car.
| Chiketkd | 03-04-2007 11:05 PM |
Best of luck at the SD Tour Max! :devil:
| pbourcq | 03-04-2007 11:07 PM |
the neovas are 200 not 250 the 250 dollar ones are the lotus oe. pricey but they grip like the hand of god
| maxQ | 03-05-2007 10:23 AM |
[QUOTE=pbourcq;17256792]the neovas are 200 not 250 the 250 dollar ones are the lotus oe. pricey but they grip like the hand of god[/QUOTE]
In 245/40-17, at Tire Rack, they are $210 + $25 for necessary shaving + $10 shipping = $245/ea out the door cost.
As opposed to the RE-01R, which is $195/ea for the same service.
In 245/40-17, at Tire Rack, they are $210 + $25 for necessary shaving + $10 shipping = $245/ea out the door cost.
As opposed to the RE-01R, which is $195/ea for the same service.
| AtomicRacer | 03-06-2007 09:19 AM |
[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag;17255771]Have you tried the Neova Dave? If so, what do you feel the differences are between that and the RE01R?
Thanks - SD should be interesting. Rumor has it that Brian Peters is stupidly quick. He'll be driving Balducci's car.[/QUOTE]
That ain't a rumor, he is stupid quick. Saw him drive last year at the Denver Pro. So Jay is going to be in El Toro in a couple weeks with Brian? This should be fun. I got the first round!
A few week ago I drove a bone stock EVO IX with RE-01R's and I have to say, I was pretty impressed with the tire. Tons of grip on the bumpy asphult at Mineral Wells. Out of the box it handled better than my '05 STi... soon we will see what it does in full STU setup. BTW, this is Jason McCalls new car, he ditched the RX-8.
-Paul
Thanks - SD should be interesting. Rumor has it that Brian Peters is stupidly quick. He'll be driving Balducci's car.[/QUOTE]
That ain't a rumor, he is stupid quick. Saw him drive last year at the Denver Pro. So Jay is going to be in El Toro in a couple weeks with Brian? This should be fun. I got the first round!
A few week ago I drove a bone stock EVO IX with RE-01R's and I have to say, I was pretty impressed with the tire. Tons of grip on the bumpy asphult at Mineral Wells. Out of the box it handled better than my '05 STi... soon we will see what it does in full STU setup. BTW, this is Jason McCalls new car, he ditched the RX-8.
-Paul
| BlkWRXWag | 03-06-2007 10:46 AM |
Hey Paul - so far, I don't see Brian signed up for the Pro, just the Tour.
| jamesohoh7 | 03-06-2007 02:59 PM |
I came late to the Neova party (January of this year), but I love these tires.
Head and shoulders above 615s, RS2s, 215s, IMHO. I guess I should say that this is only after 3 events, but still... amazing difference. "I'm a believer." .. never thought they'd be really worth the $$, but I think they are now. I haven't driven on the RE01R's yet, though I hear those are good too... and recently a good bit cheaper than Neovas. When I got my Yoks, the price-diff was ~$12/ea, so I said 'eff-it'.. but now that it's a good bit more, RE01R's may be the best buy out there.
I've PAX'ed 8th in 2 of 3 events this year, and I'm usually somewhere between 20 and 30 (when on new tires, and I fall farther as they wear). That's a bigger jump than I'd expect from just the arguably soft STU pax this season. Only change this year for me is tires (and wheels). I don't expect to keep getting top-10's, but if I can stay in 10-20, I think that's a big improvement from just tires.
It feels funny to say a Bridgestone tire is actually a 'great value buy' when they're usually so damned expensive. :lol:
anyway.. my .02 on Neovas.
Head and shoulders above 615s, RS2s, 215s, IMHO. I guess I should say that this is only after 3 events, but still... amazing difference. "I'm a believer." .. never thought they'd be really worth the $$, but I think they are now. I haven't driven on the RE01R's yet, though I hear those are good too... and recently a good bit cheaper than Neovas. When I got my Yoks, the price-diff was ~$12/ea, so I said 'eff-it'.. but now that it's a good bit more, RE01R's may be the best buy out there.
I've PAX'ed 8th in 2 of 3 events this year, and I'm usually somewhere between 20 and 30 (when on new tires, and I fall farther as they wear). That's a bigger jump than I'd expect from just the arguably soft STU pax this season. Only change this year for me is tires (and wheels). I don't expect to keep getting top-10's, but if I can stay in 10-20, I think that's a big improvement from just tires.
It feels funny to say a Bridgestone tire is actually a 'great value buy' when they're usually so damned expensive. :lol:
anyway.. my .02 on Neovas.
| aschen | 03-06-2007 04:02 PM |
^ this guy has been alot fastar lately, but I think the tires have had some placebo effect and he is driving better. I need to get some neova's: I don't even they have enough grip to bring me outta the slow catagory
| afpdl | 03-06-2007 11:48 PM |
[QUOTE=jamesohoh7;17276282] I haven't driven on the RE01R's yet, though I hear those are good too... and recently a good bit cheaper than Neovas. When I got my Yoks, the price-diff was ~$12/ea, so I said 'eff-it'.. but now that it's a good bit more, RE01R's may be the best buy out there.[/QUOTE]
We will find out on the 24th!
We will find out on the 24th!
| suprajay | 03-09-2007 09:11 PM |
[QUOTE=BlkWRXWag;17273134]Hey Paul - so far, I don't see Brian signed up for the Pro, just the Tour.[/QUOTE]
Not yet....he's welcome to, but still thinking about it...
Jay
Not yet....he's welcome to, but still thinking about it...
Jay
| jamesohoh7 | 03-10-2007 11:41 AM |
[QUOTE=afpdl;17282256]We will find out on the 24th![/QUOTE]
true... though your re01rs are going to have a lot more wear on them than my tires, I guess it'll still be a good test. I'm not going to put tons of laps on them though, despite your protests! :p ... 3 laps per driver (you and me) on each should be enough to figure it out. I killed my tires last year by putting too many laps on them early on, won't do that this year.
true... though your re01rs are going to have a lot more wear on them than my tires, I guess it'll still be a good test. I'm not going to put tons of laps on them though, despite your protests! :p ... 3 laps per driver (you and me) on each should be enough to figure it out. I killed my tires last year by putting too many laps on them early on, won't do that this year.
| Sideshowbob | 03-23-2007 11:00 AM |
<-- Just ordered 245/40R17 RE-01R's for STX this year!
| Crash477 | 03-23-2007 06:50 PM |
[QUOTE=Sideshowbob;17458569]<-- Just ordered 245/40R17 RE-01R's for STX this year![/QUOTE]
I'de be interested to see how you like them
I'de be interested to see how you like them
| speednby | 03-23-2007 07:21 PM |
[QUOTE=Sideshowbob;17458569]<-- Just ordered 245/40R17 RE-01R's for STX this year![/QUOTE]
Mine came in earlier this week! :banana: But I went with the 235/40R17. (My wheels are only 7 1/2" wide :( ) Dropped them off at the tire shop yesterday, just picked them up about an hour ago. Tomorrow they go on the car for a week of driving my daily commute to scrub them in. April 1st will be their first event. I'll let you all know what I think about them then!
Mine came in earlier this week! :banana: But I went with the 235/40R17. (My wheels are only 7 1/2" wide :( ) Dropped them off at the tire shop yesterday, just picked them up about an hour ago. Tomorrow they go on the car for a week of driving my daily commute to scrub them in. April 1st will be their first event. I'll let you all know what I think about them then!
| Sideshowbob | 03-27-2007 07:55 PM |
235 RS2 on left, 245 RE-01R on right go on this weekend.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/BeantownWRX/RE-01RvsRS2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/BeantownWRX/RE-01RvsRS2.jpg[/IMG]
| Crash477 | 03-27-2007 08:39 PM |
nice!
| Sideshowbob | 03-27-2007 08:53 PM |
Yeah, I am pumped.
| DrBiggly | 03-27-2007 11:34 PM |
Bob,
Which tire is taller (sidewall) when upright? :)
-Biggly
Which tire is taller (sidewall) when upright? :)
-Biggly
| Sideshowbob | 03-28-2007 08:47 AM |
Not 100% sure, but I would say Bridgestone.
I was in a rush to get my Summers on before it got dark, but I am moving the RS2's to my Wife's Matrix and I will get some side by sides.
I was in a rush to get my Summers on before it got dark, but I am moving the RS2's to my Wife's Matrix and I will get some side by sides.
| gumby647 | 04-06-2007 11:16 PM |
So how did you guys like the RE-01R's?
| servanium | 04-07-2007 10:06 PM |
Sorry for jumping in on the end of this tread, but I saw an article in this months Grassroots doing tire testing again :rolleyes: and I think for autox the RT615 was still fastest over the Rs2, RE-01R, and Neova. They seemed to like either the Neovas, RE-01R, or the RT615 and seemed to think they were all comparable. Like anything car setup will play a role as they were just slapping new tires on the same car an taking them for a spin around the track. Also I think BigSky has been running the RE-01Rs for almost a year now, so maybe he can chime in.
| afpdl | 04-08-2007 03:07 AM |
Ive been running the Re-01s since last november and so far have liked them better than the 615s in every way. But I havent done back to back testing with them, they seem to be alot easier to drive on. Ive only had one run on neovas and that was on someone elses car and they were 235s so I cant compare.
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