| Scooby South | 03-31-2006 10:12 AM |
Choose your R compound....
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Choose the R compound you like to run...Price not being in the equation...
Things to Consider:
Life:
Weight:
Grip:
Sizes:
compound:
Concrete or Asphalt:
thanks, Poll coming..
Bill
Things to Consider:
Life:
Weight:
Grip:
Sizes:
compound:
Concrete or Asphalt:
thanks, Poll coming..
Bill
| 10th Warrior | 03-31-2006 10:17 AM |
kind of hard not to be swooned by the 710.
| rankink | 03-31-2006 10:45 AM |
no doubt about it - v710
| endeavor | 03-31-2006 11:13 AM |
Is this for autox, TT or everything?
| KC | 03-31-2006 11:19 AM |
V710 Ftw!
| WagonMonster | 03-31-2006 11:59 AM |
Toyo RA-1
| MattSTi | 03-31-2006 12:02 PM |
[QUOTE=WagonMonster]Toyo RA-1[/QUOTE]
Second that (for road course). I don't do autox and cannot comment.
Second that (for road course). I don't do autox and cannot comment.
| Jaxx | 03-31-2006 12:20 PM |
if $ isn't a concern life shouldn't be considered
imho kumhos are still "the cheep alternative" to Hoosiers
imho kumhos are still "the cheep alternative" to Hoosiers
| kfoote | 03-31-2006 12:27 PM |
[QUOTE=endeavor]Is this for autox, TT or everything?[/QUOTE]
yep, need more info. Money not being an issue:
Endurance races: Toyo RA-1
Sprint races/Time trials: Goodyear Eagle GS-CS
DE events: Toyo RA-1
Rain: Hoosier Wets
Intermediate wet/dry: Full depth Toyo RA-1's
Auto-X: no idea
yep, need more info. Money not being an issue:
Endurance races: Toyo RA-1
Sprint races/Time trials: Goodyear Eagle GS-CS
DE events: Toyo RA-1
Rain: Hoosier Wets
Intermediate wet/dry: Full depth Toyo RA-1's
Auto-X: no idea
| Jack | 03-31-2006 12:30 PM |
This is like a Valentine One or something else decision.
If you want to win: Hoosier.
Otherwise...take your pick.
jack
If you want to win: Hoosier.
Otherwise...take your pick.
jack
| wm07 | 03-31-2006 12:40 PM |
^^^
huh? since when Hoosier is faster than V710? :lol:
of course, unless you are not talking about autox tires.
huh? since when Hoosier is faster than V710? :lol:
of course, unless you are not talking about autox tires.
| SPOOLN | 03-31-2006 12:59 PM |
Kuhmo 710's for me. The wife doesn't like a stack in the house, with Enya playing for the tires 24/7. But ehh, she understands.
| ChrisDP | 03-31-2006 01:00 PM |
IBtehHoppesezHankookFTW
V710 yo... heck, they're so good I got a cellphone with the same name! Motorola y0!
V710 yo... heck, they're so good I got a cellphone with the same name! Motorola y0!
| Scooby South | 03-31-2006 03:43 PM |
Sorry For AutoX...Should have specified earlier
| JoBoo | 03-31-2006 04:13 PM |
I voted for hooseirdaddies, but not for autox. i dont know squat about autox. but if you want to turn left and right at over 100mph real fast.... whosurdaddy now?
edit: fwiw, price wasnt an issue here... if you consider $/traction/wear there might be better alternatives..
edit: fwiw, price wasnt an issue here... if you consider $/traction/wear there might be better alternatives..
| KC | 03-31-2006 04:26 PM |
V710s for auto-x... don't even look back man.
| rankink | 03-31-2006 04:38 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]V710s for auto-x... don't even look back man.[/QUOTE]
Exactly!
Exactly!
| Scoobie Doogie | 03-31-2006 10:48 PM |
V710's for sure. I ran 205/50R15 V710's and Hoosier S05 225/45/R15's on my ITR (fronts were 225 on Hoosiers and 205 on rear). The V710's were almost as fast and they were 20mm narrower. Superb tire, just needs more sizes available.
Dave Mac
Dave Mac
| Lowball | 04-01-2006 01:10 AM |
[QUOTE=WagonMonster]Toyo RA-1[/QUOTE]
I'll double-2nd the RA-1
I've used them for track days and for street/mountain road driving and they just seem to last and last. I have a 2nd set that I haven't even had to use yet and it's been some time now. Have about 8 track days on them + street and I'm running -3f/-2.4 r camber.
I'll double-2nd the RA-1
I've used them for track days and for street/mountain road driving and they just seem to last and last. I have a 2nd set that I haven't even had to use yet and it's been some time now. Have about 8 track days on them + street and I'm running -3f/-2.4 r camber.
| blue blurr | 04-01-2006 02:53 AM |
Ra-1 :)
| ca_deal1 | 04-01-2006 02:57 AM |
RA-1 is good
| KC | 04-01-2006 08:24 AM |
This is for auto-x people. :) The RA-1s cannot hang with V710s (given same driver capabilities/prep). Period.
--kC
--kC
| blue blurr | 04-01-2006 10:27 AM |
Where does it say it's for Autox? Just says r-comp :p
| Warp3 | 04-01-2006 11:01 AM |
V710s...I've been running them for about 6-7 months now and they ROCK! :D
Shane -- SM 729
Shane -- SM 729
| KCRex | 04-01-2006 11:44 AM |
I wish they had the V710's in my size (245/45 16). Since they don't, I have to pony up the $$$ for the hoosiers. We'll see how the A3SO5 do this year!
| Lowball | 04-01-2006 01:07 PM |
yeah but what's he gonna do with a v710 when he hits a puddle... :D Guess as long as you don't plan on doing any wet auto-x days your golden on the 710's
| WRX8XB | 04-01-2006 01:40 PM |
i still need R-comps....
| Scooby South | 04-01-2006 01:43 PM |
Interestingly NO ONE has voted for the Hankook's...I know Tom is racing today....but...nada..
Bill
Bill
| rankink | 04-01-2006 03:27 PM |
[QUOTE=Lowball]yeah but what's he gonna do with a v710 when he hits a puddle... :D Guess as long as you don't plan on doing any wet auto-x days your golden on the 710's[/QUOTE]
Actually, v710's in the wet do very well. Better than most other tires other than a full Hoosier rain r-comp
Actually, v710's in the wet do very well. Better than most other tires other than a full Hoosier rain r-comp
| scby rex | 04-01-2006 03:39 PM |
I love my advan ao48 in med comp heat cycled.I got 5th at the state meet on them in sm with 18 others.I was the only one on stock turbo.This is my second season on them too. kinda pricy though
| KC | 04-01-2006 04:01 PM |
[QUOTE=blue blurr]Where does it say it's for Autox? Just says r-comp :p[/QUOTE]
Post 14 clarifies what he was looking to use them for. :D
Post 14 clarifies what he was looking to use them for. :D
| afpdl | 04-01-2006 04:01 PM |
[QUOTE=scby rex]I love my advan ao48 in med comp heat cycled.I got 5th at the state meet on them in sm with 18 others.I was the only one on stock turbo.This is my second season on them too. kinda pricy though[/QUOTE]
The statemeet in Houston? The 2nd and 3rd place car in SM has a td04 and were on azenis on top of that.
Like everyone else has said, if its for autox and price is no concern then 710s all the way.
The statemeet in Houston? The 2nd and 3rd place car in SM has a td04 and were on azenis on top of that.
Like everyone else has said, if its for autox and price is no concern then 710s all the way.
| KC | 04-01-2006 04:04 PM |
[QUOTE=rankink]Actually, v710's in the wet do very well. Better than most other tires other than a full Hoosier rain r-comp[/QUOTE]
Yes, the V710s do surprisingly well in the wet. It had just finished raining in Oscoda with rivers of runoff still happening on the course and still standing water, and both myself and co-driver (Bauer) were faster on the V710s than anyone else on the Hoosier wets.
-kC
Yes, the V710s do surprisingly well in the wet. It had just finished raining in Oscoda with rivers of runoff still happening on the course and still standing water, and both myself and co-driver (Bauer) were faster on the V710s than anyone else on the Hoosier wets.
-kC
| ratt_finkel | 04-03-2006 12:33 PM |
Just take a look at any national event list. The answer is obvious.
| mav1c | 04-03-2006 01:07 PM |
I just track so wear is more important than overall grip. Just tried the Nitto-NT-01's this past weekend and they were great.
| Scooby South | 04-03-2006 01:08 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Just take a look at any national event list. The answer is obvious.[/QUOTE]
No Doubt...See the reason for this pole is that I have a Dilima......I have a decent Guy wanting to Co-drive for National's....and he's a Tried and True Hoosier Guy....I like the Kumho's....He's want to pay half the tires...but wants "only" Hoosiers....What to do...What to do...
Bill
No Doubt...See the reason for this pole is that I have a Dilima......I have a decent Guy wanting to Co-drive for National's....and he's a Tried and True Hoosier Guy....I like the Kumho's....He's want to pay half the tires...but wants "only" Hoosiers....What to do...What to do...
Bill
| ratt_finkel | 04-03-2006 01:19 PM |
[QUOTE=Scooby South]No Doubt...See the reason for this pole is that I have a Dilima......I have a decent Guy wanting to Co-drive for National's....and he's a Tried and True Hoosier Guy....I like the Kumho's....He's want to pay half the tires...but wants "only" Hoosiers....What to do...What to do...
Bill[/QUOTE]
Tell him he's going to get MORE runs, for LESS money AND he's going to go FASTER.
Bill[/QUOTE]
Tell him he's going to get MORE runs, for LESS money AND he's going to go FASTER.
| KC | 04-03-2006 01:36 PM |
[QUOTE=Scooby South]No Doubt...See the reason for this pole is that I have a Dilima......I have a decent Guy wanting to Co-drive for National's....and he's a Tried and True Hoosier Guy....I like the Kumho's....He's want to pay half the tires...but wants "only" Hoosiers....What to do...What to do...
Bill[/QUOTE]
Is he on a Hoosier contract? It would be under no benefit to *you* if all he wanted was Hoosier, because you will have to buy 2x as many Hoosiers as V710s. (your 1/2 of the deal will still end up buying at least 4 Hoosiers depending on what events you go to). 2 sets of V710s will last as long as 3-4 sets of Hoosiers. (ie: 10ish local events, a couple tours and nationals all dual driven.)
I would pass on it and just buy V710s. They're that much better.
Bill[/QUOTE]
Is he on a Hoosier contract? It would be under no benefit to *you* if all he wanted was Hoosier, because you will have to buy 2x as many Hoosiers as V710s. (your 1/2 of the deal will still end up buying at least 4 Hoosiers depending on what events you go to). 2 sets of V710s will last as long as 3-4 sets of Hoosiers. (ie: 10ish local events, a couple tours and nationals all dual driven.)
I would pass on it and just buy V710s. They're that much better.
| KC | 04-03-2006 01:47 PM |
To continue...
You get about 50-60 runs before V710s 'fall off' but about 90-100 runs before they're useless (and they hardly cord). After they fall off, they're great for local events (unless you want to/have to go 100% of that year end trophy).
Hoosiers have been known to CORD at or about 30 runs....
You do the math.
You get about 50-60 runs before V710s 'fall off' but about 90-100 runs before they're useless (and they hardly cord). After they fall off, they're great for local events (unless you want to/have to go 100% of that year end trophy).
Hoosiers have been known to CORD at or about 30 runs....
You do the math.
| mhoward1 | 04-03-2006 01:50 PM |
Probably need to specify WHICH Hoosiers..
| Scooby South | 04-03-2006 02:03 PM |
[QUOTE=mh_WRX]Probably need to specify WHICH Hoosiers..[/QUOTE]
06'S...
06'S...
| Rdrcr | 04-03-2006 02:13 PM |
[QUOTE=WagonMonster]Toyo RA-1[/QUOTE]
Voted other...........RA1's are not on the list.
Mike
Voted other...........RA1's are not on the list.
Mike
| rautox | 04-03-2006 02:15 PM |
MG Greens :confused:
| KC | 04-03-2006 02:18 PM |
[QUOTE=Scooby South]06'S...[/QUOTE]
Although they haven't been out that long, time will tell if their shoulder improvements were good.
Set up the agreement this way: you both buy Hoosier 06s. If they cord within 40 runs, you switch to V710s without looking back. I'd call that fair. It give the new Hoosiers a chance, make your co-driver happy, and if they don't perform, plan B is a known solution.
--kC
Although they haven't been out that long, time will tell if their shoulder improvements were good.
Set up the agreement this way: you both buy Hoosier 06s. If they cord within 40 runs, you switch to V710s without looking back. I'd call that fair. It give the new Hoosiers a chance, make your co-driver happy, and if they don't perform, plan B is a known solution.
--kC
| rankink | 04-03-2006 02:29 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]Although they haven't been out that long, time will tell if their shoulder improvements were good.
Set up the agreement this way: you both buy Hoosier 06s. If they cord within 40 runs, you switch to V710s without looking back. I'd call that fair. It give the new Hoosiers a chance, make your co-driver happy, and if they don't perform, plan B is a known solution.
--kC[/QUOTE]
That does sound like a good way of approaching I think, but you will probably end up on Kumhos anyway.
Set up the agreement this way: you both buy Hoosier 06s. If they cord within 40 runs, you switch to V710s without looking back. I'd call that fair. It give the new Hoosiers a chance, make your co-driver happy, and if they don't perform, plan B is a known solution.
--kC[/QUOTE]
That does sound like a good way of approaching I think, but you will probably end up on Kumhos anyway.
| mhoward1 | 04-03-2006 02:34 PM |
[QUOTE=Rdrcr]Voted other...........RA1's are not on the list.
Mike[/QUOTE]
BUT RA1's are like 615's, VERY good DOT tires..Very close to true r compounds, but not quite.
Mike[/QUOTE]
BUT RA1's are like 615's, VERY good DOT tires..Very close to true r compounds, but not quite.
| TheWRX | 04-03-2006 03:07 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Just take a look at any national event list. The answer is obvious.[/QUOTE]
Well, at Walnut Ridge, the #1 in index was on Hoosiers. So what's your obvious answer? ;)
Well, at Walnut Ridge, the #1 in index was on Hoosiers. So what's your obvious answer? ;)
| KC | 04-03-2006 03:38 PM |
[QUOTE=TheWRX]Well, at Walnut Ridge, the #1 in index was on Hoosiers. So what's your obvious answer? ;)[/QUOTE]
Matt Braun in the Elise... the Elise doesn't have V710s that fit. :) So of course they're going to run Hooisers... there's no other options! :lol:
That's what we call 'stacking the statistics'. :lol:
I'm sure Matt would rather be on the Kumhos if he could. :)
--kC
Matt Braun in the Elise... the Elise doesn't have V710s that fit. :) So of course they're going to run Hooisers... there's no other options! :lol:
That's what we call 'stacking the statistics'. :lol:
I'm sure Matt would rather be on the Kumhos if he could. :)
--kC
| TheWRX | 04-03-2006 04:31 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]Matt Braun in the Elise... the Elise doesn't have V710s that fit. :)[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of that, considering that it was my car. ;) It still shows that the Hoosiers aren't that bad. They seem to work very well on small cars without serious camber issues. The Kumhos have a much bigger advantage on heavy cars, especially if they're camber limited.
[QUOTE=KC]I'm sure Matt would rather be on the Kumhos if he could. :) [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure. We would certainly have to try them both to see which one is faster.
I'm aware of that, considering that it was my car. ;) It still shows that the Hoosiers aren't that bad. They seem to work very well on small cars without serious camber issues. The Kumhos have a much bigger advantage on heavy cars, especially if they're camber limited.
[QUOTE=KC]I'm sure Matt would rather be on the Kumhos if he could. :) [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure. We would certainly have to try them both to see which one is faster.
| WRX8XB | 04-03-2006 04:34 PM |
[QUOTE=mh_WRX]BUT RA1's are like 615's, VERY good DOT tires..Very close to true r compounds, but not quite.[/QUOTE]
the RA1 is an R compound race tire.
all Autox Tires are DOT not sure where you're going with that comment.
the RA1 is an R compound race tire.
all Autox Tires are DOT not sure where you're going with that comment.
| Scooby South | 04-03-2006 04:38 PM |
[QUOTE][QUOTE=KC]Matt Braun in the Elise... the Elise doesn't have V710s that fit. :)[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of that, considering that it was my car. ;) It still shows that the Hoosiers aren't that bad. They seem to work very well on small cars without serious camber issues. The Kumhos have a much bigger advantage on heavy cars, especially if they're camber limited.
[QUOTE=KC]I'm sure Matt would rather be on the Kumhos if he could. :) [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure. We would certainly have to try them both to see which one is faster.[/QUOTE]
hmmmmmmm...Heavier Car...makes a bunch of sense...since "lite" car doens't go thru tires as much...since I drive the 'HEAVY' Ass car..Kuhmo's make more sense...
Bill
I'm aware of that, considering that it was my car. ;) It still shows that the Hoosiers aren't that bad. They seem to work very well on small cars without serious camber issues. The Kumhos have a much bigger advantage on heavy cars, especially if they're camber limited.
[QUOTE=KC]I'm sure Matt would rather be on the Kumhos if he could. :) [/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be so sure. We would certainly have to try them both to see which one is faster.[/QUOTE]
hmmmmmmm...Heavier Car...makes a bunch of sense...since "lite" car doens't go thru tires as much...since I drive the 'HEAVY' Ass car..Kuhmo's make more sense...
Bill
| bschork | 04-07-2006 04:00 PM |
I don't mean to hijack, but what size V710s are you guys running? I'm looking into a 17x8.5 rim, and the only v710s that I see from Kuhmo's website is a 245/45-17, which will hurt acceleration...
What are you guys running? (tire size and wheel) How much fender rolling?
Thanks,
-Brian
What are you guys running? (tire size and wheel) How much fender rolling?
Thanks,
-Brian
| rankink | 04-07-2006 04:44 PM |
[QUOTE=bschork]I don't mean to hijack, but what size V710s are you guys running? I'm looking into a 17x8.5 rim, and the only v710s that I see from Kuhmo's website is a 245/45-17, which will hurt acceleration...
What are you guys running? (tire size and wheel) How much fender rolling?
Thanks,
-Brian[/QUOTE]
What car do you have and what mods?
What are you guys running? (tire size and wheel) How much fender rolling?
Thanks,
-Brian[/QUOTE]
What car do you have and what mods?
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