| cvalle-sd | 01-02-2004 09:24 AM |
Dakar 2004
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Colin and Ari are in 28th and 34th place respectively after day1 - still in France, these are mostly transit stages, and nobody's willing to risk their hardware yet.
[url]www.dakar.com[/url]
PS - Yamaha is running a 2 WHEEL DRIVE motorcycle!
Google-search it, it'll blow your mind. It uses a variable split hydraulic drive, sending up to 50% up front, according to wheel speed and throttle position. It's just on the competition models now, but may (must) make it to road bikes and scooters.
I'm still not getting on a motorcycle in SoCal, though.:rolleyes:
[url]www.dakar.com[/url]
PS - Yamaha is running a 2 WHEEL DRIVE motorcycle!
Google-search it, it'll blow your mind. It uses a variable split hydraulic drive, sending up to 50% up front, according to wheel speed and throttle position. It's just on the competition models now, but may (must) make it to road bikes and scooters.
I'm still not getting on a motorcycle in SoCal, though.:rolleyes:
| grindMARC | 01-02-2004 09:36 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cvalle-sd[/i]
[B] PS - Yamaha is running a 2 WHEEL DRIVE motorcycle!
Google-search it, it'll blow your mind. It uses a variable split hydraulic drive, sending up to 50% up front, according to wheel speed and throttle position. It's just on the competition models now, but may (must) make it to road bikes and scooters.
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Wow, I can't wait too see how that bike handles the mushy dunes that usually send the cycle riders over the bars.
SpeedTV coverage starts Saturday at 9pm.
[B] PS - Yamaha is running a 2 WHEEL DRIVE motorcycle!
Google-search it, it'll blow your mind. It uses a variable split hydraulic drive, sending up to 50% up front, according to wheel speed and throttle position. It's just on the competition models now, but may (must) make it to road bikes and scooters.
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Wow, I can't wait too see how that bike handles the mushy dunes that usually send the cycle riders over the bars.
SpeedTV coverage starts Saturday at 9pm.
| nKoan | 01-02-2004 12:48 PM |
It started snowing during the leg 1. There are some good pictures up at [url]http://raid.racing-live.com/en/photos/2004/index.shtml[/url]
| Bonzo | 01-02-2004 02:21 PM |
Yam's been making many diff ptototypes of 2wd bikes for many years. Maybe we will see on in produstion in the future.
I also found out they are running the smallish 450. That sucker's gonna be stressed pretty hard out in the open trying to keep up with the 950's. I predict it will dnf from engine failiure.
I also found out they are running the smallish 450. That sucker's gonna be stressed pretty hard out in the open trying to keep up with the 950's. I predict it will dnf from engine failiure.
| Choose | 01-02-2004 05:55 PM |
What have they done to the Colin we all know and love???
Colin McRae, who set the 9th time overall, is still very calm. He has understood that it would be a mistake to take any risks on this sort of section: �I just took care to get to the end of this stage. The ground was very greasy, and the track very winding. Moreover, this sort of stage is not representative of the event as a whole. There is no point in taking risks that could have serious consequences for the remainder of the event.�
:huh: :lol:
Colin McRae, who set the 9th time overall, is still very calm. He has understood that it would be a mistake to take any risks on this sort of section: �I just took care to get to the end of this stage. The ground was very greasy, and the track very winding. Moreover, this sort of stage is not representative of the event as a whole. There is no point in taking risks that could have serious consequences for the remainder of the event.�
:huh: :lol:
| nKoan | 01-02-2004 05:59 PM |
Haha, I think Colin is realizing that he's only got one shot at this race. He can't screw up a whole year worth of rallying in first days of 2004.
:lol:
:lol:
| erich_sc | 01-02-2004 07:35 PM |
Sounds like a changed man to me :lol:
| cvalle-sd | 01-03-2004 02:20 AM |
-lose a job here and there, maybe you get a little more cautious. There's more to life than sliding around on your roof...apparently.
| Choose | 01-03-2004 07:44 AM |
...And he's moved up to 8th place!!!! Still keeping her on the road!!!!:D
| A_Train | 01-03-2004 09:51 PM |
Conditions so bad that the CAT sent to pull out the race vehicle gets suck? :eek:
| Choose | 01-04-2004 08:14 AM |
Colin McRae, still as calm as ever, set the eighth-best time in the special stage, and is now eighth in the overall classification, the first of the official Nissan team : �My team-mates are giving me plenty of advice concerning the African special stages, and are trying to make sure I am as prepared as possible, as it will all be new to me. The most difficult aspect will undoubtedly be the length of the stages. But now I am really impatient to get there.�
A new man!!! :D
A new man!!! :D
| Choose | 01-04-2004 09:48 AM |
After 4 days, MCrae is in 6th place!!!!!!:D :eek:
| cvalle-sd | 01-04-2004 12:16 PM |
That's pretty damn good - I hope he keeps it together. Vatanen won the first African stage IIRC, so at least the equipment is up to it.
| Rodan | 01-04-2004 01:07 PM |
Why isn't subaru involved with the Forester?
| nKoan | 01-04-2004 02:22 PM |
Not enough of a return on the investment would be my guess.
| Choose | 01-04-2004 03:38 PM |
Colin McRae set a very good time, just 41 seconds behind Vatanen. For his first special stage on African soil, the driver from Scotland was able to get the balance right : �I was not too lost on today's special stage, which reminded me of some sections of the WRC. I am very satisfied with our time. The car behaved very well, even if we still have a few small things to improve. It's really great for Ari ��
| KD7000 | 01-05-2004 09:22 AM |
OK, I'm a Dakar n00b, but can someone tell me just what the heck that huge blue truck-thing was? :eek: I've never seen anything like that.
Is there a good website I can check out which has any technical specs of the vehicles? Neither [url]www.speedtv.com[/url] nor [url]www.dakar.com[/url] has anything interesting...
Thanks- Brian
Is there a good website I can check out which has any technical specs of the vehicles? Neither [url]www.speedtv.com[/url] nor [url]www.dakar.com[/url] has anything interesting...
Thanks- Brian
| Dr. WOT | 01-05-2004 09:35 AM |
Go Colin!! He's kept that thing in one piece so far!! :banana:
| Bonzo | 01-05-2004 10:26 AM |
big blue truck? was it part of the truck race class. had Galouise(sp) on the side as sponsor?
I love the sound of the Nissan's and Mitsu's at revs grappling for traction.:banana:
The caravan of vehicels running Dakar are bikes, cars, stock cars/suv's, race trucks and support trucks. Am I missing anything?
I love the sound of the Nissan's and Mitsu's at revs grappling for traction.:banana:
The caravan of vehicels running Dakar are bikes, cars, stock cars/suv's, race trucks and support trucks. Am I missing anything?
| bemani | 01-05-2004 01:41 PM |
I don't like Speed TV's coverage ... it's always either just showing a car/truck/quad/bike driving by at the same place over and over again, or watching those bikers fall off their bike. Don't they equip the vehicles with in car cameras that isn't pointing to the drivers? :confused:
| blagon | 01-05-2004 02:07 PM |
dakar
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Greetings,
Wouldn't it be great if Speed showed more coverage of the main body of the Dakar competitors instead of just the front runner's?
I did not see any truck competition Africa last night, did I just miss it. (I did see Spanish truck action.)
Thanks!
Blagon :D :banana:
Wouldn't it be great if Speed showed more coverage of the main body of the Dakar competitors instead of just the front runner's?
I did not see any truck competition Africa last night, did I just miss it. (I did see Spanish truck action.)
Thanks!
Blagon :D :banana:
| sunnynw | 01-05-2004 03:42 PM |
Ari Vatanen wins fourth stage of Dakar Rally, Peterhansel holds overall lead. It is Ari Vatanen's 50th stage win @ Dakar!! :banana:
McRae is 8th overall after getting a penalty (7min30) for speeding in Er Rachidia...go figure....
McRae is 8th overall after getting a penalty (7min30) for speeding in Er Rachidia...go figure....
| Choose | 01-05-2004 07:46 PM |
[QUOTE][i]
McRae is 8th overall after getting a penalty (7min30) for speeding in Er Rachidia...go figure.... [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
McRae is 8th overall after getting a penalty (7min30) for speeding in Er Rachidia...go figure.... [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
| Choose | 01-05-2004 07:48 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dr. WOT[/i]
[B] Go Colin!! He's kept that thing in one piece so far!! :banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
But you know deep down inside that he wants to kick the hell of the Nissan!!
:D
[B] Go Colin!! He's kept that thing in one piece so far!! :banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
But you know deep down inside that he wants to kick the hell of the Nissan!!
:D
| MattDell | 01-05-2004 08:10 PM |
What's with the "GO!!!!!!!" on the Ford Ka? :huh:
-Matt
-Matt
| cowapult | 01-05-2004 09:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Choose [/i]
[B]Colin McRae set a very good time, just 41 seconds behind Vatanen. For his first special stage on African soil, the driver from Scotland was able to get the balance right : �I was not too lost on today's special stage, which reminded me of some sections of the WRC. I am very satisfied with our time. The car behaved very well, even if we still have a few small things to improve. It's really great for Ari �� [/B][/QUOTE]
As much as Colin is known for dramatic DNF's, didn't he win WRC Kenya once in the past couple years?
Every once in a while, he surprises us and manages to use a little self control to win a race of endurance.
[B]Colin McRae set a very good time, just 41 seconds behind Vatanen. For his first special stage on African soil, the driver from Scotland was able to get the balance right : �I was not too lost on today's special stage, which reminded me of some sections of the WRC. I am very satisfied with our time. The car behaved very well, even if we still have a few small things to improve. It's really great for Ari �� [/B][/QUOTE]
As much as Colin is known for dramatic DNF's, didn't he win WRC Kenya once in the past couple years?
Every once in a while, he surprises us and manages to use a little self control to win a race of endurance.
| ANZAC_1915 | 01-05-2004 10:13 PM |
Actually wasn't he the winner of the last Safari?
| nKoan | 01-05-2004 10:56 PM |
Yup, Colin was the winner of the last Safari that was included in the WRC, in 2002 (the Safari rally is still run, just not as part of the WRC).
| Osgood30 | 01-06-2004 08:44 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cowapult [/i]
[B]As much as Colin is known for dramatic DNF's, didn't he win WRC Kenya once in the past couple years?
Every once in a while, he surprises us and manages to use a little self control to win a race of endurance. [/B][/QUOTE]
You people are driving me nuts with making fun of Colin.
As much as people like to base their opinions on things said on internet, Colin does have the most wins ever in WRC and is 3-time Kenyan rally winner.
And oh yeah, my opinion of Colin is based from watching WRC since 1993 from when I was still in Europe
anyway, don't take offence people, just getting old
[B]As much as Colin is known for dramatic DNF's, didn't he win WRC Kenya once in the past couple years?
Every once in a while, he surprises us and manages to use a little self control to win a race of endurance. [/B][/QUOTE]
You people are driving me nuts with making fun of Colin.
As much as people like to base their opinions on things said on internet, Colin does have the most wins ever in WRC and is 3-time Kenyan rally winner.
And oh yeah, my opinion of Colin is based from watching WRC since 1993 from when I was still in Europe
anyway, don't take offence people, just getting old
| cvalle-sd | 01-06-2004 10:07 AM |
GO!!!!!! is what they put on the cars, since "Gauloises" (tobacco ad) is illegal. Like Jordan F1 will have "Buzzin Hornets" instead of "Benson & Hedges", and McLaren will have "David" and "Kimi" instead of "West"...what the Hell are they going to do for JPM?
"Monty"?
"Monty"?
| wrx2.0 555 | 01-06-2004 01:19 PM |
Re: Dakar 2004
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cvalle-sd [/i]
[B]PS - Yamaha is running a 2 WHEEL DRIVE motorcycle!
Google-search it, it'll blow your mind. It uses a variable split hydraulic drive, sending up to 50% up front, according to wheel speed and throttle position. It's just on the competition models now, but may (must) make it to road bikes and scooters.
I'm still not getting on a motorcycle in SoCal, though.:rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
[URL=http://www.gizmo.com.au/public/News/news.asp?articleid=2351]Yamaha 2-Trac to be in released 2004[/URL]
[B]PS - Yamaha is running a 2 WHEEL DRIVE motorcycle!
Google-search it, it'll blow your mind. It uses a variable split hydraulic drive, sending up to 50% up front, according to wheel speed and throttle position. It's just on the competition models now, but may (must) make it to road bikes and scooters.
I'm still not getting on a motorcycle in SoCal, though.:rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
[URL=http://www.gizmo.com.au/public/News/news.asp?articleid=2351]Yamaha 2-Trac to be in released 2004[/URL]
| ANZAC_1915 | 01-06-2004 01:54 PM |
I think the coverage is pretty good this year.
| Choose | 01-06-2004 05:19 PM |
I think Colin is getting in the groove....he finished 4th today!!! :)
| Choose | 01-06-2004 06:39 PM |
And now his penalty got canceled ...so he's up to 3rd!!!!!!
Colin McRae climbs to third place !
Dakar 2004 : Nissan Rally Raid Team - Leg 6 [06/01/04 - 21:44]
Giniel de Villiers and Colin McRae set the 2nd and 3rd times respectively in today's special stage. Colin has risen to 3rd place in the overall classification, after his penalty for speeding was removed. Giniel is now lying in 4th position. Ari Vatanen suffered a flooded engine while fording a river, forcing him to stop for nearly three hours. A bad day for the Finnish line-up�
The Dakar caravan reached Tan Tan this evening, the final Moroccan bivouac before crossing into Mauritania tomorrow, for the first Marathon stage. As had been predicted, today's 351 km special stage claimed some victims. A stage that did not forgive the slightest driving error, with a fast-paced start, followed by a route full of potential traps.
Yesterday evening, Giniel de Villiers was awarded a five-minute penalty for having passed too far from a GPS point (over 200 metres) during the special stage between Er Rachidia and Ouarzazate. After this penalty, the South African lost two places in the overall classification. This morning, determined to set the right pace in this tricky stage, he was concentrating very hard. It was a nearly perfect day, as he finished only 2 min 57' behind Masuoka and claimed fourth place in the overall classification.
�Today's stage was very fast, with plenty of potential traps. It did not go too badly for us. However, we had quite a scare when fording a river. We plunged into a hole, and the water went up to the bonnet. The sprays of water were enormous. Water even came in through the ventilation vents on the roof. I accelerated so that we were able to get out of that spot of trouble. Then we lost our wing over a bumpy section. Apart from these little incidents, we have had no problems with the car. I think we managed to maintain a good rhythm without taking any stupid risks.�
Behind him, his team-mate Colin McRae set an excellent third-fastest time : �I was bothered by the dust in today's special stage. You really can't drive when the visibility is so poor. There is no point trying slightly crazy things or to try to attack, because you have to keep on remembering that the rally is far from over. Tomorrow's stage will be a long one, and I am preparing myself psychologically for the long distances, which I am not used to. Tina tells me regularly how many kilometres are left on each stage, and that helps me a lot. Visibly, the pace we have set is not so bad � but it will only be the day after tomorrow, when we have got through the first Marathon stage, that we will have tackled all the conditions that you can encounter on the Dakar.�
The penalty of 7 minutes and 30 seconds that he had been given yesterday was not confirmed by the readout from his GPS system. As for four other competitors in similar situations, the Sporting Stewards have removed all the penalties awarded yesterday.
The only problem encountered by both Nissan Pickup vehicles was the loss of their wing over bumpy sections, but this incident did not prevent them from finishing in the top positions. Unlike his team-mates, Ari Vatanen did not have a problem-free day. Going through a ford at km 117, his engine flooded. Forced to stop, the Finnish driver had to wait nearly two and a half hours before he could start again. A lot of time lost, and many places in the overall classification have disappeared�
�We crossed over a hole, perhaps the deepest of all the wadi � a lot of water got into the engine. We started to dismantle it, but unfortunately we didn't have a spark plug socket wrench. Ren� Metge and Bernard Chevalier stopped and lent us this indispensable tool. After emptying out all the water, we were able to get going again without problems, but we lost a lot of time. I am a bit disappointed this evening, but that's the Dakar for you� �
Yoshio Ikemachi and Thierry Delli Zotti also arrived quite late at Tan Tan. After stopping nearly an hour to help Ari, they had to drive in the dust thrown up by the trucks, and also had to overtake many slower vehicles. But Yoshio appreciated the exercise, as well as the Dakar spirit � their Patrol did not have the slightest problem over this route full of potential traps.
Gilles Martineau, the Team Manager, gave a short report after these first days of the race : � I am satisfied with everyone's positions, considering the relatively late preparation of the cars. If Ari had not had his little problem, we would have had a fine group finish. At the moment, we are playing for position. Our rivals have also had some problems. We have to wait another day or two to see how the vehicles behave over the longer stages.�
Tomorrow's stage will be a first judge for all those competitors still in the race. A �Marathon Stage� means that there will be no assistance at the evening bivouac. All the teams will therefore have to cope alone. They will start from Tan Tan in the night for 345 kilometres of liaison. This will be followed by over 700 kilometres of special stage in Mauritania, including the famous Oumaghawaba Erg, the only access route into Atar, the end of this stage�
Colin McRae climbs to third place !
Dakar 2004 : Nissan Rally Raid Team - Leg 6 [06/01/04 - 21:44]
Giniel de Villiers and Colin McRae set the 2nd and 3rd times respectively in today's special stage. Colin has risen to 3rd place in the overall classification, after his penalty for speeding was removed. Giniel is now lying in 4th position. Ari Vatanen suffered a flooded engine while fording a river, forcing him to stop for nearly three hours. A bad day for the Finnish line-up�
The Dakar caravan reached Tan Tan this evening, the final Moroccan bivouac before crossing into Mauritania tomorrow, for the first Marathon stage. As had been predicted, today's 351 km special stage claimed some victims. A stage that did not forgive the slightest driving error, with a fast-paced start, followed by a route full of potential traps.
Yesterday evening, Giniel de Villiers was awarded a five-minute penalty for having passed too far from a GPS point (over 200 metres) during the special stage between Er Rachidia and Ouarzazate. After this penalty, the South African lost two places in the overall classification. This morning, determined to set the right pace in this tricky stage, he was concentrating very hard. It was a nearly perfect day, as he finished only 2 min 57' behind Masuoka and claimed fourth place in the overall classification.
�Today's stage was very fast, with plenty of potential traps. It did not go too badly for us. However, we had quite a scare when fording a river. We plunged into a hole, and the water went up to the bonnet. The sprays of water were enormous. Water even came in through the ventilation vents on the roof. I accelerated so that we were able to get out of that spot of trouble. Then we lost our wing over a bumpy section. Apart from these little incidents, we have had no problems with the car. I think we managed to maintain a good rhythm without taking any stupid risks.�
Behind him, his team-mate Colin McRae set an excellent third-fastest time : �I was bothered by the dust in today's special stage. You really can't drive when the visibility is so poor. There is no point trying slightly crazy things or to try to attack, because you have to keep on remembering that the rally is far from over. Tomorrow's stage will be a long one, and I am preparing myself psychologically for the long distances, which I am not used to. Tina tells me regularly how many kilometres are left on each stage, and that helps me a lot. Visibly, the pace we have set is not so bad � but it will only be the day after tomorrow, when we have got through the first Marathon stage, that we will have tackled all the conditions that you can encounter on the Dakar.�
The penalty of 7 minutes and 30 seconds that he had been given yesterday was not confirmed by the readout from his GPS system. As for four other competitors in similar situations, the Sporting Stewards have removed all the penalties awarded yesterday.
The only problem encountered by both Nissan Pickup vehicles was the loss of their wing over bumpy sections, but this incident did not prevent them from finishing in the top positions. Unlike his team-mates, Ari Vatanen did not have a problem-free day. Going through a ford at km 117, his engine flooded. Forced to stop, the Finnish driver had to wait nearly two and a half hours before he could start again. A lot of time lost, and many places in the overall classification have disappeared�
�We crossed over a hole, perhaps the deepest of all the wadi � a lot of water got into the engine. We started to dismantle it, but unfortunately we didn't have a spark plug socket wrench. Ren� Metge and Bernard Chevalier stopped and lent us this indispensable tool. After emptying out all the water, we were able to get going again without problems, but we lost a lot of time. I am a bit disappointed this evening, but that's the Dakar for you� �
Yoshio Ikemachi and Thierry Delli Zotti also arrived quite late at Tan Tan. After stopping nearly an hour to help Ari, they had to drive in the dust thrown up by the trucks, and also had to overtake many slower vehicles. But Yoshio appreciated the exercise, as well as the Dakar spirit � their Patrol did not have the slightest problem over this route full of potential traps.
Gilles Martineau, the Team Manager, gave a short report after these first days of the race : � I am satisfied with everyone's positions, considering the relatively late preparation of the cars. If Ari had not had his little problem, we would have had a fine group finish. At the moment, we are playing for position. Our rivals have also had some problems. We have to wait another day or two to see how the vehicles behave over the longer stages.�
Tomorrow's stage will be a first judge for all those competitors still in the race. A �Marathon Stage� means that there will be no assistance at the evening bivouac. All the teams will therefore have to cope alone. They will start from Tan Tan in the night for 345 kilometres of liaison. This will be followed by over 700 kilometres of special stage in Mauritania, including the famous Oumaghawaba Erg, the only access route into Atar, the end of this stage�
| DO | 01-06-2004 09:04 PM |
Found this on another site:
And they are off to new adventures!
[IMG]http://www.forum-auto.com/photos/bergam_3108200205_parisdakar.jpg[/IMG]
And they are off to new adventures!
[IMG]http://www.forum-auto.com/photos/bergam_3108200205_parisdakar.jpg[/IMG]
| Bonzo | 01-07-2004 01:10 AM |
very cool stage today. many racers had some big events.
I thought the camera work today, esp the heli-cam was incredible. They some close-ups of teh bikes that were just awesome.
Wednesday is just a 600+ mile stage:eek: :eek: I feel sorry for the guys on the bikes. That is almost tortuous(sp)
I thought the camera work today, esp the heli-cam was incredible. They some close-ups of teh bikes that were just awesome.
Wednesday is just a 600+ mile stage:eek: :eek: I feel sorry for the guys on the bikes. That is almost tortuous(sp)
| Dr. WOT | 01-07-2004 09:26 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dr. WOT [/i]
[B]Go Colin!! He's kept that thing in one piece so far!! :banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
Well it looks like he lost his rear wing on stage 6 so I retract my statement. ;)
If I'm not mistaken, Carlos Sainz and Colin are both tied for most WRC wins at 25.
[B]Go Colin!! He's kept that thing in one piece so far!! :banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
Well it looks like he lost his rear wing on stage 6 so I retract my statement. ;)
If I'm not mistaken, Carlos Sainz and Colin are both tied for most WRC wins at 25.
| Choose | 01-07-2004 07:29 PM |
Only Colin McRae managed to pull himself up among the leaders, finishing 5th in the stage and keeping his 3rd place in the overall classification, despite being stuck in the dunes for around twenty minutes. The Scottish Champion's apprenticeship is continuing�
�At the start of the special stage, everything was going perfectly. We were right behind the leading cars, and found ourselves up with Peterhansel, Masuoka and Schlesser in the sand-dunes. Unfortunately, at the end of this sector of very soft sand, we got stuck. We lost around 20 minutes before getting out of this trap. I am learning every day, especially over this sort of terrain, which is totally new for me. One thing really surprised me today, and that was Stephane's speed in the dunes. It was really incredible��
�At the start of the special stage, everything was going perfectly. We were right behind the leading cars, and found ourselves up with Peterhansel, Masuoka and Schlesser in the sand-dunes. Unfortunately, at the end of this sector of very soft sand, we got stuck. We lost around 20 minutes before getting out of this trap. I am learning every day, especially over this sort of terrain, which is totally new for me. One thing really surprised me today, and that was Stephane's speed in the dunes. It was really incredible��
| Bonzo | 01-08-2004 02:24 AM |
I am in awe of this race. especially of the bikes. That discpline is so physically demanding along with the requisite of having to have loads of talent. Incredible.
Great to see American Mark Miller running in 12th overall in his (iirc) Chevy 2wd pickemup. I would think our desert racers should have some basic knowledge of getting thru this race. Tough to compete with full factory teams tho. A big disadvantage for him for sure.
can't wait for tomorrow...
Great to see American Mark Miller running in 12th overall in his (iirc) Chevy 2wd pickemup. I would think our desert racers should have some basic knowledge of getting thru this race. Tough to compete with full factory teams tho. A big disadvantage for him for sure.
can't wait for tomorrow...
| cvalle-sd | 01-08-2004 09:37 AM |
Well...we don't quite have deserts like that. Makes Baja look like I-15
| Achilles38WRX | 01-08-2004 10:02 AM |
anyone else spot some missing coverage yesterday? an extra round of commercials in the end blocked out any coverage of the trucks, kinda sucked.
the race is incredible to watch, particularly the wide angle shots where all you see is the racer and nothing be vast open desert to the horizon in front of him! :eek:
the race is incredible to watch, particularly the wide angle shots where all you see is the racer and nothing be vast open desert to the horizon in front of him! :eek:
| Bonzo | 01-08-2004 11:54 AM |
yep I saw the abrupt comercial and then returned kinda midstream in the coverage. I want my 5 minutes of Dakar back!!
I agree baja may not have the dunes but it does have everything else. It would be cool to see one of their teams come and compete in Baja. I am sure would do welln, not win but do well.
I agree baja may not have the dunes but it does have everything else. It would be cool to see one of their teams come and compete in Baja. I am sure would do welln, not win but do well.
| sunnynw | 01-09-2004 01:41 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo [/i]
[B]very cool stage today. many racers had some big events.
I thought the camera work today, esp the heli-cam was incredible. They some close-ups of teh bikes that were just awesome.
Wednesday is just a 600+ mile stage:eek: :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
Just wish we could see more than 30 minutes of coverage....not even 30 minutes of coverage when you consider all the stupid ads.
BLAH...
:furious:
[B]very cool stage today. many racers had some big events.
I thought the camera work today, esp the heli-cam was incredible. They some close-ups of teh bikes that were just awesome.
Wednesday is just a 600+ mile stage:eek: :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
Just wish we could see more than 30 minutes of coverage....not even 30 minutes of coverage when you consider all the stupid ads.
BLAH...
:furious:
| blagon | 01-09-2004 01:49 PM |
I cannot belieive the lenght of the stages in the last 2 days.
I have followed the Dakar since '85 and this is not fair to amateur's,
Also, I wish Speed would break down class' standing.
Not whining, I love the coverage.
blagon
:D :banana:
I have followed the Dakar since '85 and this is not fair to amateur's,
Also, I wish Speed would break down class' standing.
Not whining, I love the coverage.
blagon
:D :banana:
| Bonzo | 01-09-2004 02:41 PM |
yes I wish,I wish for more coverage.
American Scott Harden of the Red Bull KTM crashed out today with a broken ankle.:( He was doing incredible and was well within the top 9 overall. Larry Roesler is now moving up steadily to a 12th overall.
2 stages have been cancelled for security reasons. iirc they were numbers 10 and 11.
American Scott Harden of the Red Bull KTM crashed out today with a broken ankle.:( He was doing incredible and was well within the top 9 overall. Larry Roesler is now moving up steadily to a 12th overall.
2 stages have been cancelled for security reasons. iirc they were numbers 10 and 11.
| Choose | 01-09-2004 05:36 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo [/i]
[B]yes I wish,I wish for more coverage.
American Scott Harden of the Red Bull KTM crashed out today with a broken ankle.:( He was doing incredible and was well within the top 9 overall. Larry Roesler is now moving up steadily to a 12th overall.
2 stages have been cancelled for security reasons. iirc they were numbers 10 and 11. [/B][/QUOTE]
I hope they can run the rest without anymore cancelations!!
[B]yes I wish,I wish for more coverage.
American Scott Harden of the Red Bull KTM crashed out today with a broken ankle.:( He was doing incredible and was well within the top 9 overall. Larry Roesler is now moving up steadily to a 12th overall.
2 stages have been cancelled for security reasons. iirc they were numbers 10 and 11. [/B][/QUOTE]
I hope they can run the rest without anymore cancelations!!
| PerrySoCal | 01-09-2004 06:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cvalle-sd[/i]
[B] Well...we don't quite have deserts like that. Makes Baja look like I-15 [/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo [/i]
[B]I agree baja may not have the dunes but it does have everything else. It would be cool to see one of their teams come and compete in Baja. I am sure would do welln, not win but do well. [/B][/QUOTE]
Been to Glamis? It is just North of Baja, where California, Arizona and Mexico meet. It is close to what you see on TV, just not as much of it. Only 50 square miles, though.
[IMG]http://perrysocal.mypicgallery.com/?/papaperry/flagpoledistance_large.jpg[/IMG]
Perry
[B] Well...we don't quite have deserts like that. Makes Baja look like I-15 [/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo [/i]
[B]I agree baja may not have the dunes but it does have everything else. It would be cool to see one of their teams come and compete in Baja. I am sure would do welln, not win but do well. [/B][/QUOTE]
Been to Glamis? It is just North of Baja, where California, Arizona and Mexico meet. It is close to what you see on TV, just not as much of it. Only 50 square miles, though.
[IMG]http://perrysocal.mypicgallery.com/?/papaperry/flagpoledistance_large.jpg[/IMG]
Perry
| Bonzo | 01-10-2004 02:41 AM |
I would love to spend a few days playing at Glamis. One really big playground.
Larry Roesler said that the Atta to Tajikja(sp) stage was very difficult and technical, much like Baja. Words from the master.
I predict Mitsu to win. The Nissans are all faltering and the bimmers adn Vedubs don't quite have the speed and the Schlessers are, well just that.
Larry Roesler said that the Atta to Tajikja(sp) stage was very difficult and technical, much like Baja. Words from the master.
I predict Mitsu to win. The Nissans are all faltering and the bimmers adn Vedubs don't quite have the speed and the Schlessers are, well just that.
| Choose | 01-10-2004 10:27 AM |
Another difficult day for Nissan. Giniel de Villiers is far behind while Colin McRae had more gearbox problems and Ari Vatanen's pick-up had clutch problems.
Well I guess that's it for MCrae......somebody find a pic of him kicking it!!!! Not sure if he's out or not???
Well I guess that's it for MCrae......somebody find a pic of him kicking it!!!! Not sure if he's out or not???
| blagon | 01-10-2004 10:47 AM |
Speed coverage Saturday should be interesting with stages 10 and 11 cancelled.
Remember 5p.m. EST today (Saturday).
blagon:banana:
Remember 5p.m. EST today (Saturday).
blagon:banana:
| blagon | 01-10-2004 11:11 AM |
Hello everyone,
Any word on the 2 wheel drive Yahama? Last I heard, was he was 39th on the 1st day in Africa.
Thank you!
blagon
Any word on the 2 wheel drive Yahama? Last I heard, was he was 39th on the 1st day in Africa.
Thank you!
blagon
| Choose | 01-11-2004 08:33 AM |
Colin McRae firmly declared that he wanted to continue, and that there was no question of retiring. The Scottish driver clearly stated that he wanted to reach the Rose Lake. Before leaving Tidjika and after spending a good part of the night working on his Pickup, Colin had said that between winning the Monte-Carlo Rally, quite possibly the most prestigious of the World Rally Championship events, and the Dakar, he would choose the Dakar without hesitation. He also added, just before the start of that 700 km special stage, that from a distance point of view, the day's stage was like doing the Cyprus Rally and the Acropolis Rally in just one day. Colin McRae has surprised plenty of people on this Dakar, and everyone is aware of his speed and talent. It looks as if he has caught the rally-raid virus, and that this Dakar will only be the start �
| PerrySoCal | 01-11-2004 10:02 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo[/i]
[B] I would love to spend a few days playing at Glamis. One really big playground.[/B][/QUOTE]
It is a blast. Spent 6 day's there over the New Years. Heading back next weekend.
Would love to ride in the Sahara!
Perry
[B] I would love to spend a few days playing at Glamis. One really big playground.[/B][/QUOTE]
It is a blast. Spent 6 day's there over the New Years. Heading back next weekend.
Would love to ride in the Sahara!
Perry
| TimStevens | 01-12-2004 08:52 AM |
Breaking news from SniffPetrol!
[img]http://www.sniffpetrol.com/latenews0401_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.sniffpetrol.com/latenews0401_1.jpg[/img]
| Choose | 01-12-2004 06:48 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens[/i]
[B] Breaking news from SniffPetrol!
[img]http://www.sniffpetrol.com/latenews0401_1.jpg[/img] [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
At 15:25 exactly, Colin's Nissan Pickup reached the Bobo Dioulasso bivouac, after three problemfilled days spent in the heart of Africa. With numerous journalists and photographers waiting impatiently for him, all of whom had been holding their breath since last Friday, the Scottish driver appeared quite �fresh'. Tina Th�rner, his co-driver, smiling widely, got out of the car dressed in a pretty African tunic, bought on the way, in order to have some clean clothes to wear. She admitted later that Colin had bought the same, but with decorated with blue elephants�
Very relaxed, Colin faced the pack of journalists, all eager for details. He was charming and very happy to answer their questions, which was much appreciated by those journalists in attendance. � After everything that happened, I must admit that I never doubted for a minute. I remained confident throughout, especially after it was announced that the two stages had been neutralised. Then when the assistance truck arrived, I understood that everything was still possible. It is thanks to them that we are still here. The Dakar is a really special race, everything can change from one moment to the next, and the smallest of mechanical problems can have irreversible consequences. One of the things that amazes me is the speed you reach on some sections, which can be compared to those in the Safari Rally in Kenya.
Tina and I therefore spent two nights and two days with Ari and Juha. The time did seem rather long, because waiting in those conditions is relatively difficult. But Ari, as always, kept the conversation going, most especially concerning politics. He is very talkative, and inexhaustible on that subject� We also had the company of some Mauritanian soldiers, who stayed with us throughout. We were never in danger, not for one moment. When our assistance truck arrived, it gave us tents and duvets, but also some provisions. We did not lack water, or food. I am now going to rest, to get some hours of sleep before setting off again tomorrow morning. I want to make the most of the remaining stages. We can aim for a stage victory, but it will not be easy, as we will be starting a long way back. I must admit that I have a real love-hate relationship with this race, and now I understand better everything that I was told. But the Dakar has not managed to get rid of me, I am still here and ready to get underway again� �
[B] Breaking news from SniffPetrol!
[img]http://www.sniffpetrol.com/latenews0401_1.jpg[/img] [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
At 15:25 exactly, Colin's Nissan Pickup reached the Bobo Dioulasso bivouac, after three problemfilled days spent in the heart of Africa. With numerous journalists and photographers waiting impatiently for him, all of whom had been holding their breath since last Friday, the Scottish driver appeared quite �fresh'. Tina Th�rner, his co-driver, smiling widely, got out of the car dressed in a pretty African tunic, bought on the way, in order to have some clean clothes to wear. She admitted later that Colin had bought the same, but with decorated with blue elephants�
Very relaxed, Colin faced the pack of journalists, all eager for details. He was charming and very happy to answer their questions, which was much appreciated by those journalists in attendance. � After everything that happened, I must admit that I never doubted for a minute. I remained confident throughout, especially after it was announced that the two stages had been neutralised. Then when the assistance truck arrived, I understood that everything was still possible. It is thanks to them that we are still here. The Dakar is a really special race, everything can change from one moment to the next, and the smallest of mechanical problems can have irreversible consequences. One of the things that amazes me is the speed you reach on some sections, which can be compared to those in the Safari Rally in Kenya.
Tina and I therefore spent two nights and two days with Ari and Juha. The time did seem rather long, because waiting in those conditions is relatively difficult. But Ari, as always, kept the conversation going, most especially concerning politics. He is very talkative, and inexhaustible on that subject� We also had the company of some Mauritanian soldiers, who stayed with us throughout. We were never in danger, not for one moment. When our assistance truck arrived, it gave us tents and duvets, but also some provisions. We did not lack water, or food. I am now going to rest, to get some hours of sleep before setting off again tomorrow morning. I want to make the most of the remaining stages. We can aim for a stage victory, but it will not be easy, as we will be starting a long way back. I must admit that I have a real love-hate relationship with this race, and now I understand better everything that I was told. But the Dakar has not managed to get rid of me, I am still here and ready to get underway again� �
| Bonzo | 01-13-2004 02:22 AM |
Choose, thanks for posting the written word. good shtuff for the Dakar starved.:)
| Bonzo | 01-14-2004 02:37 PM |
A Dakar first for Colin today. He won one!
Also the 2wd Yammie won today as well. I am suprised.
Also the 2wd Yammie won today as well. I am suprised.
| Choose | 01-14-2004 05:53 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bonzo[/i]
[B] A Dakar first for Colin today. He won one!
Also the 2wd Yammie won today as well. I am suprised. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep yep yep!!!!!
:banana: :banana: :banana:
First stage win for Colin McRae !
Dakar 2004 : Leg 13 [14/01/04 - 17:17]
The three Nissan pickups finished today's stage in first, second and third places! Colin McRae takes his first stage win, followed by De Villiers and Vatanen.
Jutta Kleinschmidt is fourth, ahead of Hiroshi Masuoka in fifth position and Stephane Peterhansel in sixth place.
Nissan's performance doesn't change much in the overall results. Stephane Peterhansel loses only two minutes today and remains in the lead by more than an hour over his Mitsubishi teammate Masuoka.
David Fretigne was the fastest motorcycle rider in today's stage. The Yamaha rider finished 3'41" in front of Richard Sainct while race leader Nani Roma fell and lost a few minutes when he tried to avoid hitting a cow!
Because of Roma's incident, Sainct reduces the overall gap separating him from the leader to 7'25".
Cyril Despres finishes the day in fifth place but remains in third position in the general standings, 55 seconds ahead of Alfie Cox in fourth position.
[B] A Dakar first for Colin today. He won one!
Also the 2wd Yammie won today as well. I am suprised. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep yep yep!!!!!
:banana: :banana: :banana:
First stage win for Colin McRae !
Dakar 2004 : Leg 13 [14/01/04 - 17:17]
The three Nissan pickups finished today's stage in first, second and third places! Colin McRae takes his first stage win, followed by De Villiers and Vatanen.
Jutta Kleinschmidt is fourth, ahead of Hiroshi Masuoka in fifth position and Stephane Peterhansel in sixth place.
Nissan's performance doesn't change much in the overall results. Stephane Peterhansel loses only two minutes today and remains in the lead by more than an hour over his Mitsubishi teammate Masuoka.
David Fretigne was the fastest motorcycle rider in today's stage. The Yamaha rider finished 3'41" in front of Richard Sainct while race leader Nani Roma fell and lost a few minutes when he tried to avoid hitting a cow!
Because of Roma's incident, Sainct reduces the overall gap separating him from the leader to 7'25".
Cyril Despres finishes the day in fifth place but remains in third position in the general standings, 55 seconds ahead of Alfie Cox in fourth position.
| Choose | 01-14-2004 06:50 PM |
Colin McRae savoured his delight very humbly this evening : �Today's special stage was the first time when I was really able to drive. We had a few minor vibration worries, and we fought a bit with our inflating-deflating system. Nothing too serious. The trail was quite narrow between the trees, and we lost a front wing and a bit of our rear wing. We felt that we were driving well, and that we were catching up with the others. I am pleased to be the first British driver to have won a special stage since Andrew Cowan, who won 6 Dakar stages � I would have been a bit disappointed to head home without managing to claim a win. Tomorrow, it will be important to set the right pace, as it is a marathon stage. We will have to take care of the car, because we will not have any assistance at Tidjikja bivouac. There are still quite a few difficult sections to get through before arriving in Dakar, but we will try to win another stage before then� �
| Choose | 01-18-2004 07:19 AM |
Well it's all over!!! MCrae won the last stage SS17 so winning 2 stages in his first Dakkar Rally is not bad but finished 20th overall.
But of course he had to hit something on SS16:
Colin McRae was less lucky than Giniel today. Having had a difficult day yesterday, the Scottish driver still had some transmission problems today. But he also hit a tree, which altered the aerodynamics of his Pickup� Just a few more kilometres to go, and tomorrow, Colin should finish his first Dakar.
:lol:
But of course he had to hit something on SS16:
Colin McRae was less lucky than Giniel today. Having had a difficult day yesterday, the Scottish driver still had some transmission problems today. But he also hit a tree, which altered the aerodynamics of his Pickup� Just a few more kilometres to go, and tomorrow, Colin should finish his first Dakar.
:lol:
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