| Avey | 10-18-2001 10:46 PM |
Going to install my HID kit
I have received my HID kit ([url]http://www.rollhard.com/eagleeye.htm[/url]) and want to install them, but according to the instructions I need a relay kit, which is not included with this kit. Can someone please tell me what the relay kit does, and where I can acquire the neccessary parts that make up the relay kit? Also is there any special method used to weather proof the install? Since the WRX uses 9007 bulbs the plug is external and there is nothing to protect the wires of the HID bulbs, my previous car had H4s and there was a weather proof cap on the back of the housing.
thanks
thanks
| jacobhorn | 10-19-2001 12:45 AM |
Please post pics when you are finished with the install. Thanks.
| pigboy | 10-19-2001 12:50 AM |
I know this, I know this:D
**Relay Kit:
Some vehicles using a dual filament lamp (H4,9004,9007) may require a relay kit. On some vehicles the ECU will read a burned out bright light. This relay kit will plug into the high beams and eliminate that problem.
When HID lamps charge (when first turned on) they have a large power draw. When the power is routed through your ECU then to the lights this power draw can cause damage. The relay kit will pull power directly from your battery while using your current headlamp plug as a switch not a power source.
But I don't think you really need the relay kit....
post some picture when you install.
Kim
**Relay Kit:
Some vehicles using a dual filament lamp (H4,9004,9007) may require a relay kit. On some vehicles the ECU will read a burned out bright light. This relay kit will plug into the high beams and eliminate that problem.
When HID lamps charge (when first turned on) they have a large power draw. When the power is routed through your ECU then to the lights this power draw can cause damage. The relay kit will pull power directly from your battery while using your current headlamp plug as a switch not a power source.
But I don't think you really need the relay kit....
post some picture when you install.
Kim
| Tuning Factory Inc. | 10-19-2001 09:17 AM |
Actually I think you do need the relay. I am running one. I also need to figure out how to ground the parking brake lead for the DRL's. Although I tore out the relay when I got the car, when you go HID the DRL's magically start working again. Wierd but true.
| ImpreziveRS | 10-19-2001 09:36 AM |
I'm ordering an HID kit for Christmas. Since I have an '01 MY, and I have H4 bulbs, will I still need this relay?
~Kyle
~Kyle
| Avey | 10-19-2001 09:50 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by god [/i]
[B]Actually I think you do need the relay. I am running one. I also need to figure out how to ground the parking brake lead for the DRL's. Although I tore out the relay when I got the car, when you go HID the DRL's magically start working again. Wierd but true. [/B][/QUOTE]
Ok cool, I found out what I need last night and I read that you have to put in Diodes or the light for you brights would be on all the time.
I read before and you said you were having this problem, you said it was is dimly lit and your indicator for the fog lights was off. Normally in any car when you turn on you brights it shuts off the fog lights, so I am guessing that you didn't put a diode in the low beam power line and high beam power line, so any power not being used goes to the ECU and tells it that you have the brights on, so it relays the power to light up the indicator on the dash but since most of the power is going to running you low beams it is dimly lit, and that power is just enough to turn of the fog light indicator but not enough to actually turn off your fog lights.
Just a theory but if I am right all you are supposed to put a diode in the both the red lines low beam and high beam.
[B]Actually I think you do need the relay. I am running one. I also need to figure out how to ground the parking brake lead for the DRL's. Although I tore out the relay when I got the car, when you go HID the DRL's magically start working again. Wierd but true. [/B][/QUOTE]
Ok cool, I found out what I need last night and I read that you have to put in Diodes or the light for you brights would be on all the time.
I read before and you said you were having this problem, you said it was is dimly lit and your indicator for the fog lights was off. Normally in any car when you turn on you brights it shuts off the fog lights, so I am guessing that you didn't put a diode in the low beam power line and high beam power line, so any power not being used goes to the ECU and tells it that you have the brights on, so it relays the power to light up the indicator on the dash but since most of the power is going to running you low beams it is dimly lit, and that power is just enough to turn of the fog light indicator but not enough to actually turn off your fog lights.
Just a theory but if I am right all you are supposed to put a diode in the both the red lines low beam and high beam.
| sti2_5rs | 10-19-2001 09:49 PM |
waiting for the pic!!
| Tuning Factory Inc. | 10-19-2001 11:30 PM |
Avey I heard you had to use resistors, not diodes but I have not tried it yet. I haven't had time with all the other projects I've been working on. I just click up the parking brake one click to turn them off in the daytime right now but would like to fix this problem.
| Avey | 10-20-2001 12:07 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ImpreziveRS [/i]
[B]I'm ordering an HID kit for Christmas. Since I have an '01 MY, and I have H4 bulbs, will I still need this relay?
~Kyle [/B][/QUOTE]
Any bulb that originally had high beam and low beam in one bulb would need the relay kit.
I should have it installed tonight, I will try to get a hold of a digi cam. It wasn't very straight forward gathering all the parts for the kit and making the wiring harness, so if anyone is interested in the eaglite kit, you may wan't to get it installed unless you are comfortable doing electrical work. I contacted the place where I got it and they said they are looking into getting me a relay kit, cause they assured me that this was truely plug and play, but I didn't want to wait for it. It's still only $425 and has free shipping and lifetime warrenty on the ballasts, and I have eaglite xenon bulbs in the car now and had them in my previous car with no problems.
[B]I'm ordering an HID kit for Christmas. Since I have an '01 MY, and I have H4 bulbs, will I still need this relay?
~Kyle [/B][/QUOTE]
Any bulb that originally had high beam and low beam in one bulb would need the relay kit.
I should have it installed tonight, I will try to get a hold of a digi cam. It wasn't very straight forward gathering all the parts for the kit and making the wiring harness, so if anyone is interested in the eaglite kit, you may wan't to get it installed unless you are comfortable doing electrical work. I contacted the place where I got it and they said they are looking into getting me a relay kit, cause they assured me that this was truely plug and play, but I didn't want to wait for it. It's still only $425 and has free shipping and lifetime warrenty on the ballasts, and I have eaglite xenon bulbs in the car now and had them in my previous car with no problems.
| Langit | 10-30-2001 08:18 AM |
Avey,
did you get the Eaglite kit installed? was it too difficult to install it? where did you get the relay kit?
did you get the Eaglite kit installed? was it too difficult to install it? where did you get the relay kit?
| Tuning Factory Inc. | 10-30-2001 09:22 AM |
Hmm, the kit I have is 100% plug and play. Relay is required folks.
| Langit | 10-30-2001 09:24 AM |
GOd, do you have the eaglite kit? if yes, where did you get the relays?
| SilverWRX02 | 10-30-2001 12:03 PM |
Man I just got a k2 vision HID and it also needs a relay kit and I have no idea bout any kind of relay kit:( . where can I get em, how do I install em, how much does it cost? what the heck is a relay kit and what does it do? I would really appreciate it if you guys can help me out. thanks ;)
| gargleblaster | 11-05-2001 11:34 AM |
<bump>
There is a masssive group buy forming up on the Eaglite kits over [URL=http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1075081#post1075081]here.[/URL] Has anyone come up with the relay kits?
There is a masssive group buy forming up on the Eaglite kits over [URL=http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1075081#post1075081]here.[/URL] Has anyone come up with the relay kits?
| SilverWRX02 | 11-05-2001 03:17 PM |
not over here I've been lookin for relay kit for a while now. I think the eaglite is similar to the ones I have.
| Vineet Singh | 11-06-2001 05:44 AM |
I didn't need any relay kit, and in fact, I made a little vfaq on how to install it. Jeff supplied me with the initial hook up directions, so I didn't even look at the gibberish that was in the eaglite "manual".
If you have the eaglite 9007 kit that I pictured on there, yours should work just like mine w/o relays, or diodes. I'll disable my DRL's tommorow, and post if I have any problems, but I think I won't.
anyways, here is the link,
[url]http://www.eaglecars.com/images/wrx/[/url]
[img]http://www.eaglecars.com/images/wrx/hid_wrx/1hid.jpg[/img]
If you have the eaglite 9007 kit that I pictured on there, yours should work just like mine w/o relays, or diodes. I'll disable my DRL's tommorow, and post if I have any problems, but I think I won't.
anyways, here is the link,
[url]http://www.eaglecars.com/images/wrx/[/url]
[img]http://www.eaglecars.com/images/wrx/hid_wrx/1hid.jpg[/img]
| Avey | 11-06-2001 07:58 AM |
I have it installed the same way Vineet Singh does, and have ordered a relay kit from [url]http://autolites.net/page588320.htm,[/url] the cost is $65. I also ordered a set of their 6000K purple bulbs, because, the eaglite kit is just pure white, with a very slight blue tint. My xenon imitation bulbs looked like this kit but were not as bright. They are very bright and I have not been flashed in two weeks. Vineet did your ballast come with a lifetime warrently?
| SilverWRX02 | 11-06-2001 11:33 AM |
So you got the relay kit, was it hard to install. Did you install it with the relay kit? I have the same kit in the picture above the relay kit. How did you order it?
| Vineet Singh | 11-06-2001 01:32 PM |
I don't see the WRX being a multiplex ECU system like a Lexus and some other new cars... therefore, I find it hard to believe the ECU has anything to do with the lights at all.
It works w/o the relay kit just fine on my car, and longer, on Jorge's car (over 2000 miles!). Too bad I don't have an electrical schematic on the WRX, but it seems just like any other car I have owned, and is not that hard to figure out.
I like the color of my lights, I didn't want the purpley stuff because I don't need to be pulled over for something that looks obviously too different than what came with my car. These 5100k bulbs are just fine for me :) plus, their "blue hue" matches my "blue car", purple would look strange :). Maybe cool on a black or white car...
No, the whole kit has a [b]1[/b] year warranty from Jeff/Midnight Moose. It's an acceptable risk for me and him I guess :).
It works w/o the relay kit just fine on my car, and longer, on Jorge's car (over 2000 miles!). Too bad I don't have an electrical schematic on the WRX, but it seems just like any other car I have owned, and is not that hard to figure out.
I like the color of my lights, I didn't want the purpley stuff because I don't need to be pulled over for something that looks obviously too different than what came with my car. These 5100k bulbs are just fine for me :) plus, their "blue hue" matches my "blue car", purple would look strange :). Maybe cool on a black or white car...
No, the whole kit has a [b]1[/b] year warranty from Jeff/Midnight Moose. It's an acceptable risk for me and him I guess :).
| Avey | 11-06-2001 05:30 PM |
The relay kit is coming. I grounded to the body of the car and connected the power wire to the bulb harness. So when I turn on my foglights, I get a dimly lit high beam symbol, and my foglight indicator is doesn't appear, and sometime when I go to turn on my fog lights they don't come on, if this happens I have to wait for a min. I tried grounding to the harness and got the same thing. So I ordered a relay kit, with diodes in place, so this won't happen. Do you notice a green/yellow tint at some angles? That is primarily why I am changing the bulbs, they will plug right into this ballast. If someone is willing to provide a lifetime warrently on these ballast than they must be good. Overall I still like this kit and think it is a good price.
| Vineet Singh | 11-06-2001 07:30 PM |
Hmm, I don't see the little green strip "foglight indicator" anymore either I think, but I can tell if they are on or not by looking outside, or at the button (if it's pushed in, they are on).
I also noticed I cannot flick my fogs on and off quickly, otherwise, like you stated, I have to wait a few seconds for the relay to switch back on.
I'm using the ground lead right off the headlight harness.
Green/Yellow light? No, I haven't noticed that... perhaps a tiny hint of green blue light, but not in any way "green". It's far closer to blue/white.
How much are the 6000k bulbs? I might want to try them out, or atleast keep an extra set if these HID kits get banned... since now that they are cheaper, everyone and their brother will be installing them soon, in housings that REALLY don't work with HID's properly.
Wife just reminded me how much better the visibility is at night, what a nice anniversary present for both of us haha!
PS: Don't flash "highbeams" on a pitchblack road... very scarey when all you see is your dash lights, and nothing outside :)
I also noticed I cannot flick my fogs on and off quickly, otherwise, like you stated, I have to wait a few seconds for the relay to switch back on.
I'm using the ground lead right off the headlight harness.
Green/Yellow light? No, I haven't noticed that... perhaps a tiny hint of green blue light, but not in any way "green". It's far closer to blue/white.
How much are the 6000k bulbs? I might want to try them out, or atleast keep an extra set if these HID kits get banned... since now that they are cheaper, everyone and their brother will be installing them soon, in housings that REALLY don't work with HID's properly.
Wife just reminded me how much better the visibility is at night, what a nice anniversary present for both of us haha!
PS: Don't flash "highbeams" on a pitchblack road... very scarey when all you see is your dash lights, and nothing outside :)
| SilverWRX02 | 11-07-2001 02:04 AM |
I just ordered the relay kit also. I think havin a relay kit better and prolly I dont have to cut the socket wires to splice the 2 wires and leave the highbeam wire hangin. I took the HID kit to subaru to get it installed before. they told me it's better to have the relay kit. Its a cleaner installation with the relay and there's less likely to have problems with the sensors in the car. But nevertheless, I will still lose my highbeams. Even though it's not needed to have the highbeams I feel like something is missing.
Is it possible in the future when they come up with Hi/lo beams in one HID bulb we can just change the bulb ? or do we have to do another different wiring?
Is it possible in the future when they come up with Hi/lo beams in one HID bulb we can just change the bulb ? or do we have to do another different wiring?
| Vineet Singh | 11-07-2001 02:09 AM |
I didn't have to cut any wires to get the kit to work... I can go back to stock headlights in just a short of time as it took to install the HID's... I'm gonna start a new thread about an idea about highbeams with HID's.
| Avey | 11-07-2001 02:10 AM |
The bulbs are $120 a piece and they have a one year warrenty. When I try to flash "highbeams" all the happpens is my foglights go off, and I have to wait till the relay resets to turn them back on, maybe it doesn't switch off because the DRL are still on? Oh and another reason I wanted a relay kit, is I unpluged my DRL connector and after installing the kit they came back, so I would have to mess with the parking brake to make them never come on again. I will let you know if the relay kit solves these problems. The greenish yellow is mostly visible in the day, and very slight at night, almost non-existant at night, next time you are in a parking garage, look up at the ceiling and I bet you see a green/yellow ring at the top :) I don't think the purple lights will be as bright as these? But atleast if a cop sees them they can recognize the color as being typical HID, right now they look like crazy bright PIAAs that are somehow now annoying to look at IMO.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-07-2001 02:14 AM |
Another thing, subaru says I cannot instal the kit without the relay kit. BUt I talked to the manufacturer they say I don't need a relay kit. And what they told me is to cut the wires on the socket, they have three wires. One for ground, the other 2 for hi and lo. The HID bulb has 5 wires, 2 to ballast, 1 to starter and the other 2 to socket wires. How do you install it if you don't have the relay kit without splicing?
| Avey | 11-07-2001 02:55 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SilverWRX02 [/i]
[B]Another thing, subaru says I cannot instal the kit without the relay kit. BUt I talked to the manufacturer they say I don't need a relay kit. And what they told me is to cut the wires on the socket, they have three wires. One for ground, the other 2 for hi and lo. The HID bulb has 5 wires, 2 to ballast, 1 to starter and the other 2 to socket wires. How do you install it if you don't have the relay kit without splicing? [/B][/QUOTE]
The red wire that goes to the ballast should have a pin on the end, just insert that into the middle slot of the original headlight harness, I grounded to the body, if you want to do the same thing, cut off the pin of the black connector (that goes to the ballast) and insert a u shaped connector on it. There are two grounding bolts on either side of the engine bay, just release the nut a little and insert the connector in there. Make sure you insulate the harness. No modification to the cars wiring is required.
[B]Another thing, subaru says I cannot instal the kit without the relay kit. BUt I talked to the manufacturer they say I don't need a relay kit. And what they told me is to cut the wires on the socket, they have three wires. One for ground, the other 2 for hi and lo. The HID bulb has 5 wires, 2 to ballast, 1 to starter and the other 2 to socket wires. How do you install it if you don't have the relay kit without splicing? [/B][/QUOTE]
The red wire that goes to the ballast should have a pin on the end, just insert that into the middle slot of the original headlight harness, I grounded to the body, if you want to do the same thing, cut off the pin of the black connector (that goes to the ballast) and insert a u shaped connector on it. There are two grounding bolts on either side of the engine bay, just release the nut a little and insert the connector in there. Make sure you insulate the harness. No modification to the cars wiring is required.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-07-2001 04:32 PM |
Ok, so I tried what vineet did, don't cut the wires just plug it into the socket, black to the left and red to the center of the socket, nothing happens!!
So, I tried to figure which one is ground, highbeams, low beam. when I just touch the red one to the supposedly ground, the bulb turns on but it flickers. and I haven't even plug the black yet. I tried different combinations but nothing happens, only that left one plug by the red lights up the bulb. what's goin on here?
So, I tried to figure which one is ground, highbeams, low beam. when I just touch the red one to the supposedly ground, the bulb turns on but it flickers. and I haven't even plug the black yet. I tried different combinations but nothing happens, only that left one plug by the red lights up the bulb. what's goin on here?
| SilverWRX02 | 11-07-2001 05:12 PM |
Nevermind !!! I got it to work, the fuse was blown but I fix that, now the problem is that I have a faint HIghbeam signal glowing and I don't have my fog lights. :( hopefully the relay will fix this
| Avey | 11-07-2001 09:02 PM |
Try starting the car without the fog light button engaged, then turn on you lights, wait a couple mins and turn on your foglights, this should work, you won't see the green light on the button anymore though. Until you get a relay kit you will have to deal with the dimly lit highbeam indicator when you have your fogs on.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-08-2001 12:08 PM |
the fog lights still doesn't come on:( do I have to change the fuse to 20A instead on 15A on the fuse box? I'm running out of ideas to get the fog to turn on. the relay kit will eliminate the fog light problem right?
| Avey | 11-08-2001 01:15 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SilverWRX02 [/i]
[B]the fog lights still doesn't come on:( do I have to change the fuse to 20A instead on 15A on the fuse box? I'm running out of ideas to get the fog to turn on. the relay kit will eliminate the fog light problem right? [/B][/QUOTE]
I didn't change any fog light fuses, does the dimly lit highbeam indicator only appear when you press the fog light switch? Check the fuse panel in the interior behind the coin tray, that is where the fog light fuse is. Well the relay kit is supposed to make every function the way it did prior to installing the HID system, only when you flash your highbeams the lowbeams will just stay the same. So after I install the relay kit I will get peoples attention by turning on and off my foglights rapidly, right now if I press the foglight switch I will have to wait a minute or two to turn them back on.
[B]the fog lights still doesn't come on:( do I have to change the fuse to 20A instead on 15A on the fuse box? I'm running out of ideas to get the fog to turn on. the relay kit will eliminate the fog light problem right? [/B][/QUOTE]
I didn't change any fog light fuses, does the dimly lit highbeam indicator only appear when you press the fog light switch? Check the fuse panel in the interior behind the coin tray, that is where the fog light fuse is. Well the relay kit is supposed to make every function the way it did prior to installing the HID system, only when you flash your highbeams the lowbeams will just stay the same. So after I install the relay kit I will get peoples attention by turning on and off my foglights rapidly, right now if I press the foglight switch I will have to wait a minute or two to turn them back on.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-08-2001 02:00 PM |
indicator is always on, infact now that I install HID on both, the indicator is bright as if high beam is on. fog light still won't come on. but when I try to use the highbeam there is no difference and the HID doesn't even turn off.
| Avey | 11-08-2001 05:18 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SilverWRX02 [/i]
[B]indicator is always on, infact now that I install HID on both, the indicator is bright as if high beam is on. fog light still won't come on. but when I try to use the highbeam there is no difference and the HID doesn't even turn off. [/B][/QUOTE]
Something is wrong with the hookup, you must be hooked up to the high beam power line, and the reason your lights won't go off when you try to use the switch is because of the DRL. If I were you I would ground to the body of the car and insert the power line (red) into the middle connector on the harness. I extended the ground wire and put a U shaped connector on the end and grounded to the bolt above the battery on the drivers side and above the airbox on the passengers side. If you do this I don't see how it won't work. Also make sure you haven't pushed the switch forward and left it there, cause in that position your fogs will never come on.
[B]indicator is always on, infact now that I install HID on both, the indicator is bright as if high beam is on. fog light still won't come on. but when I try to use the highbeam there is no difference and the HID doesn't even turn off. [/B][/QUOTE]
Something is wrong with the hookup, you must be hooked up to the high beam power line, and the reason your lights won't go off when you try to use the switch is because of the DRL. If I were you I would ground to the body of the car and insert the power line (red) into the middle connector on the harness. I extended the ground wire and put a U shaped connector on the end and grounded to the bolt above the battery on the drivers side and above the airbox on the passengers side. If you do this I don't see how it won't work. Also make sure you haven't pushed the switch forward and left it there, cause in that position your fogs will never come on.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-08-2001 06:20 PM |
I double checked it. It was not hooked up to the high beam line which is on the right. Its hook on the center. I don't have an extension right now neither do I have a u shaped connector to the bolt. THis is soo weird...the high beam indicator is always on and it's not glowing, it's on even when the high beam is turned off. Now this is even weirder, when I turn off the lights pull the hand brake so the DRL is switched off, I can flash with my high beam. And so I double checked it again, this time I tried switch the red wire to the ones on the right. but this time no lights comes on, even when I tried to flash the high beams. I guesss I prolly have to wait for the relay to come and hook that up and fix the fog light and the high beam.
| bdowell | 11-10-2001 11:56 AM |
Avey, where did you get your relay from? I can't get that link to work:( Thanks!
| Zeta | 11-10-2001 12:05 PM |
[URL=http://www.autolites.net/page588320.htm]Relay Link[/URL]
This one should work, it is at the bottom of the page. There was a comma at the end of the other link. Anyone have the HID installed on a GC8?
Craig
This one should work, it is at the bottom of the page. There was a comma at the end of the other link. Anyone have the HID installed on a GC8?
Craig
| dead-eye | 11-11-2001 11:27 PM |
Just installed my HIDs (Eaglite kit from Adam) in my MY99 2.5RS and it really was plug n play. However, I plugged the red wire to the left side of the original harness and the black one into the middle socket. According to the previous posts, I should've plugged the red socket to the middle socket and the black one should've been grounded. No relays used. If this set up is wrong/dangerous, please tell me!!
| SilverWRX02 | 11-12-2001 01:14 AM |
Your set up might be different because it is for the WRX. I dunno what the set up for the RS but it's probably different. I believe the RS doesn't have dual filament bulbs(9007 hi/lo beams on same bulb), so I guess you would have no problems installing it. if you don't have the right set up, your HID would not light up, instead it might be flickering and you would blown up your fuse. if it lights up like normal then you should be fine.
| jacobhorn | 11-12-2001 01:50 AM |
-- Avey:
Please post pics once you get the new, purple bulbs installed. I have seen the K2 Crystal White (Purple) bulbs, and they looked WAAAAY too purple. They did not look like HIDs and they did not seem to light the road as well. I would be interested in the same bulbs you bought if they are only slightly purple, the same way that the original HID bulbs are only slightly blue. Thanks!
[email][email protected][/email]
Please post pics once you get the new, purple bulbs installed. I have seen the K2 Crystal White (Purple) bulbs, and they looked WAAAAY too purple. They did not look like HIDs and they did not seem to light the road as well. I would be interested in the same bulbs you bought if they are only slightly purple, the same way that the original HID bulbs are only slightly blue. Thanks!
[email][email protected][/email]
| Avey | 11-12-2001 08:06 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jacobhorn [/i]
[B]-- Avey:
Please post pics once you get the new, purple bulbs installed. I have seen the K2 Crystal White (Purple) bulbs, and they looked WAAAAY too purple. They did not look like HIDs and they did not seem to light the road as well. I would be interested in the same bulbs you bought if they are only slightly purple, the same way that the original HID bulbs are only slightly blue. Thanks!
[email][email protected][/email] [/B][/QUOTE]
I will post pics, the guy said these bulbs are made in the USA, and they are about as purple as an average audi. I hope these are atleast 75% as bright as the bulbs I have in now.
[B]-- Avey:
Please post pics once you get the new, purple bulbs installed. I have seen the K2 Crystal White (Purple) bulbs, and they looked WAAAAY too purple. They did not look like HIDs and they did not seem to light the road as well. I would be interested in the same bulbs you bought if they are only slightly purple, the same way that the original HID bulbs are only slightly blue. Thanks!
[email][email protected][/email] [/B][/QUOTE]
I will post pics, the guy said these bulbs are made in the USA, and they are about as purple as an average audi. I hope these are atleast 75% as bright as the bulbs I have in now.
| Avey | 11-12-2001 08:08 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SilverWRX02 [/i]
[B]Your set up might be different because it is for the WRX. I dunno what the set up for the RS but it's probably different. I believe the RS doesn't have dual filament bulbs(9007 hi/lo beams on same bulb), so I guess you would have no problems installing it. if you don't have the right set up, your HID would not light up, instead it might be flickering and you would blown up your fuse. if it lights up like normal then you should be fine. [/B][/QUOTE]
He has dual filament bulbs, H4. That should work fine, it has been working fine for me.
[B]Your set up might be different because it is for the WRX. I dunno what the set up for the RS but it's probably different. I believe the RS doesn't have dual filament bulbs(9007 hi/lo beams on same bulb), so I guess you would have no problems installing it. if you don't have the right set up, your HID would not light up, instead it might be flickering and you would blown up your fuse. if it lights up like normal then you should be fine. [/B][/QUOTE]
He has dual filament bulbs, H4. That should work fine, it has been working fine for me.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-12-2001 03:46 PM |
I have already installed mine, and yes they are purple but when reflected off the road they are not purple. You'll see purple in the housing. These lights are brighter even than a BMW (My dad have a X5). However, the edge is not as sharp as a BMW because it is not a projector headlight. I have not had anyone flash me, or have any problems with cops because I have encountered them often during daytime or night time( I turn them on all the time). They look purple in the day time also. I think it looks really really tight. :D I would post pics when I fix the fogs.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-13-2001 08:45 PM |
I got my relay kit, Avey did you get yours??
I installed mine, as a matter of fact the HIDs won't even come on and fogs doesn't work, however if you plug only one light, fogs can come on but when you turn on the fogs the HIDS turn off. WHAT THE HECK IS GOIN ON HERE???
I installed mine, as a matter of fact the HIDs won't even come on and fogs doesn't work, however if you plug only one light, fogs can come on but when you turn on the fogs the HIDS turn off. WHAT THE HECK IS GOIN ON HERE???
| zaidallas | 11-13-2001 09:08 PM |
dead-eye
please post what you think of the kit and what it looks like when ON . I got the same set for my 99 but its not in yet.
zaidoun
please post what you think of the kit and what it looks like when ON . I got the same set for my 99 but its not in yet.
zaidoun
| SilverWRX02 | 11-13-2001 09:16 PM |
HECK YEAH
I dunno what I did, it worked !!! Oh well, everything works like normal now, just like how it was before, wow what a beauty.
I dunno what I did, it worked !!! Oh well, everything works like normal now, just like how it was before, wow what a beauty.
| SilverWRX02 | 11-13-2001 11:08 PM |
WHAT THE HECK??
I flip the HIGH beam the HIDs and the FOGS when OUT and then I wouldn't come on anymore, no fuse blown. I didn't change the wire or anything. If I mess around I can only get One light on. Man this is just too, just when I thought everything is cool. :mad: anyone knows whats goin on here??
I flip the HIGH beam the HIDs and the FOGS when OUT and then I wouldn't come on anymore, no fuse blown. I didn't change the wire or anything. If I mess around I can only get One light on. Man this is just too, just when I thought everything is cool. :mad: anyone knows whats goin on here??
| newscooby | 11-28-2001 01:15 PM |
Haven't sen much action in this thread recently...I should be getting my HIDs from the GB soon and I'm kinda concerned about the trouble SilverWRX02 is having.
Has anyone else installed the Eaglites and/or relay kit successfully? I haven't ordered the relay kit, but I'm considering it. Depending on the outcome of this discussion...
Thanks
Mike :cool:
Has anyone else installed the Eaglites and/or relay kit successfully? I haven't ordered the relay kit, but I'm considering it. Depending on the outcome of this discussion...
Thanks
Mike :cool:
| SilverWRX02 | 11-28-2001 04:53 PM |
well I got the relay kit, and I finally got it to work with the relay kit, I have to reverse the diode that I bought from the site. I really like the HIDs theyre really bright, brighter than audis or BMWs. But now my problem is that the HIDs turn on when I turn on high beams. not when I turn on Low beams. weird I have to check the voltage.
| Avey | 12-06-2001 01:07 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SilverWRX02 [/i]
[B]well I got the relay kit, and I finally got it to work with the relay kit, I have to reverse the diode that I bought from the site. I really like the HIDs theyre really bright, brighter than audis or BMWs. But now my problem is that the HIDs turn on when I turn on high beams. not when I turn on Low beams. weird I have to check the voltage. [/B][/QUOTE]
Have you got yours working properly yet? If you still have it set up the way you posted above, you have to flip back the diodes you fliped and flip the other ones. You are blocking out the power from the low beams and only allowing power to come from the highbeams, you want it the other way around. I have it working now just like you had it a couple posts ago, but when I hit the highbeams for more than a sec, it burns one of the fuses and then nothing comes on. Somehow everything is dependant on one fuse when you go to highbeams, so I am going to try to flip back only one of the diodes where the fuse burnt. If that doesn't work I will change my fuses to 30 A and hope that it doesn't burn. Could you imagine driving down a dark road with no light, and you acidentally hit the highs, and loose all the lights.
So everything works with the relay kit, I can fip on and of my fogs within a sec, and there is no more dimly lit highbeam sign, plus the green light on the foglight switch is back. The only problem now is the highbeams, The only way the fuse in the main fuse panel could blow is if there is some kind of short, cause all the power supplied to the lights is coming directly from the battery. Anyone know if it is dangerous to put a 30 A fuse in?
Thanks
[B]well I got the relay kit, and I finally got it to work with the relay kit, I have to reverse the diode that I bought from the site. I really like the HIDs theyre really bright, brighter than audis or BMWs. But now my problem is that the HIDs turn on when I turn on high beams. not when I turn on Low beams. weird I have to check the voltage. [/B][/QUOTE]
Have you got yours working properly yet? If you still have it set up the way you posted above, you have to flip back the diodes you fliped and flip the other ones. You are blocking out the power from the low beams and only allowing power to come from the highbeams, you want it the other way around. I have it working now just like you had it a couple posts ago, but when I hit the highbeams for more than a sec, it burns one of the fuses and then nothing comes on. Somehow everything is dependant on one fuse when you go to highbeams, so I am going to try to flip back only one of the diodes where the fuse burnt. If that doesn't work I will change my fuses to 30 A and hope that it doesn't burn. Could you imagine driving down a dark road with no light, and you acidentally hit the highs, and loose all the lights.
So everything works with the relay kit, I can fip on and of my fogs within a sec, and there is no more dimly lit highbeam sign, plus the green light on the foglight switch is back. The only problem now is the highbeams, The only way the fuse in the main fuse panel could blow is if there is some kind of short, cause all the power supplied to the lights is coming directly from the battery. Anyone know if it is dangerous to put a 30 A fuse in?
Thanks
| Avey | 12-06-2001 01:35 PM |
Or another possibility is to find out the amount of resistance the stock bulbs highbeam filament has and get the appropriate resistor and put that inline instead of the diode on the highbeam side, therefore when I turn on my highs it won't block all the power and blow the fuse? If this make sense to anyone please let me know, cause there are alot of people who will be going through this soon.
| SilverWRX02 | 12-06-2001 08:26 PM |
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which fuse are you goin to change? the one on the relay or the main fuse?
the relay comes with 20A the main fuse is 15A
I dunno if changin the fuse will do anything, I tried changin the fuse both on the main fuse and relay and nothing happened. So I replaced it with the old one. I don't want to risk gettin my ECU fried. The higher the Amperage the higher current will be able to flow, the fuse just stops it from over flowin too much current through the electrical system. So if you have higher Amperage than recomended, you're risking burning the ECU. I dunno how much can it can handle. I'm not sure what's goin on with this.
I started out at first without reversing the diode, but nothing turns on--no hi, lo or fogs. I made sure everything is plugged correctly. the weird thing is this, after I gave up with this set up I went back to my house did watever and came back out. suprisingly it worked like normal. when you turn on low beam it comes on and fogs can turn on and off instantly and it has the green light. but when I flicked the hi beam. all the lights went out but no fuses was burnt. I was confused!! :confused:
I'm just waiting for my friend whose an Electrical Engineer to look at it. Or if someone to figured this out. My guess would be the diode is causing the current to underflow when you turn on your lows therefore it reads a burnt out low beam. So when you turn on high beam, you have enough current and the hi will turn on.
I might have to change into a less resistant diode. I'm am sure bout all this.
My lights currently only turns on when you turn on hi.
the relay comes with 20A the main fuse is 15A
I dunno if changin the fuse will do anything, I tried changin the fuse both on the main fuse and relay and nothing happened. So I replaced it with the old one. I don't want to risk gettin my ECU fried. The higher the Amperage the higher current will be able to flow, the fuse just stops it from over flowin too much current through the electrical system. So if you have higher Amperage than recomended, you're risking burning the ECU. I dunno how much can it can handle. I'm not sure what's goin on with this.
I started out at first without reversing the diode, but nothing turns on--no hi, lo or fogs. I made sure everything is plugged correctly. the weird thing is this, after I gave up with this set up I went back to my house did watever and came back out. suprisingly it worked like normal. when you turn on low beam it comes on and fogs can turn on and off instantly and it has the green light. but when I flicked the hi beam. all the lights went out but no fuses was burnt. I was confused!! :confused:
I'm just waiting for my friend whose an Electrical Engineer to look at it. Or if someone to figured this out. My guess would be the diode is causing the current to underflow when you turn on your lows therefore it reads a burnt out low beam. So when you turn on high beam, you have enough current and the hi will turn on.
I might have to change into a less resistant diode. I'm am sure bout all this.
My lights currently only turns on when you turn on hi.
| au112 | 12-06-2001 09:07 PM |
What I've is that aftermarket HID doesn't have the high beam, right?
| Avey | 12-06-2001 09:29 PM |
Well as far as I know I diode blocks the flow of electricity. So you probably flipped the high beam diodes so when you turn on your lows the power is being blocked, but when you turn on your brights it works. The way mine is set up right now I have the brights blocked and lows working, so everything works properly, but if I hold the brights for more than a second it burns the fuse in the main panel, so the electricity took the path of least resistance which was back to the fuse and burnt the fuse. So if I replace the diode on the high side with a resistor the computer might think that the bulb is ok, and the power won't be routed back to the computer.
Maybe you can just explain it to your friend, it's not normal for a car to require you to switch only one diode, the point of the diodes being there is so that when you hit your brights they don't just go out, and so it doesn't detect a burnt out highbeam filament. In this car if both diodes are flipped nothing happens, it shorts something out, but if you flip only one it'll work, so in my case I flipped the low beam only and everything is ok untill I flip on the highs, then the fuse goes, and I don't know why but it was only the right headlight fuse, somehow after doing this the whole system working was dependant on the right headlight fuse. Tomorrow I am going to try to flip the diode on the right side back to the "flow" position and see what happens, since it burnt out the right side fuse.
I am pretty sure your friend can draw a schematic and figure out what has to be done.
Maybe you can just explain it to your friend, it's not normal for a car to require you to switch only one diode, the point of the diodes being there is so that when you hit your brights they don't just go out, and so it doesn't detect a burnt out highbeam filament. In this car if both diodes are flipped nothing happens, it shorts something out, but if you flip only one it'll work, so in my case I flipped the low beam only and everything is ok untill I flip on the highs, then the fuse goes, and I don't know why but it was only the right headlight fuse, somehow after doing this the whole system working was dependant on the right headlight fuse. Tomorrow I am going to try to flip the diode on the right side back to the "flow" position and see what happens, since it burnt out the right side fuse.
I am pretty sure your friend can draw a schematic and figure out what has to be done.
| SilverWRX02 | 12-07-2001 01:02 AM |
I emailed autolites,
heres their respones
Vincent,
I apologize for the delay in returning your e-mail.
Try these trouble shooting tips.
1. Double check all the fuses in the relay system and the fuses on your fuse block. Make sure you are using the 30A fuse that should come with your HID system.
2. Test the voltage going to the ballast with the high beams on and off. It should read between 12 and 14 volts. check it at the plug going DIRECTLY into the ballast.
If you do get the correct voltage check all the connections on the HID system. Double check that it fires when hard wired into the H4 socket.
3. If you are not getting the correct voltage into the ballast check the voltage at the H4 plug, with high beams on and off.
4. If all the voltage readings are correct refer to the instructions attached to this e-mail. You may have a switched + and - on your vehicle. Try switching the directions of the diodes in the system.
This is the most common issue with these relays, these instructions tell you how to reverse the flow of electricity through the diodes. On some vehicles the + and - terminals are switched and that causes weird things to happen with the relay.
5. If nothing works we may have a defective relay, in this case call me and I will gave a replacement system sent out.
If you need some assistance with these give me a call.
Jonathan Schantz
Autolites
831-476-1530
Fax 831-476-7683
[email][email protected][/email]
[url]www.autolites.net[/url]
heres their respones
Vincent,
I apologize for the delay in returning your e-mail.
Try these trouble shooting tips.
1. Double check all the fuses in the relay system and the fuses on your fuse block. Make sure you are using the 30A fuse that should come with your HID system.
2. Test the voltage going to the ballast with the high beams on and off. It should read between 12 and 14 volts. check it at the plug going DIRECTLY into the ballast.
If you do get the correct voltage check all the connections on the HID system. Double check that it fires when hard wired into the H4 socket.
3. If you are not getting the correct voltage into the ballast check the voltage at the H4 plug, with high beams on and off.
4. If all the voltage readings are correct refer to the instructions attached to this e-mail. You may have a switched + and - on your vehicle. Try switching the directions of the diodes in the system.
This is the most common issue with these relays, these instructions tell you how to reverse the flow of electricity through the diodes. On some vehicles the + and - terminals are switched and that causes weird things to happen with the relay.
5. If nothing works we may have a defective relay, in this case call me and I will gave a replacement system sent out.
If you need some assistance with these give me a call.
Jonathan Schantz
Autolites
831-476-1530
Fax 831-476-7683
[email][email protected][/email]
[url]www.autolites.net[/url]
| viodea | 12-07-2001 11:02 AM |
So, with the relay kit (working properly), the HID lights up on both high and low beam, doesn't it?
This is what I really want. I don't want any black out happen when I (or someone else) accidently hit the high beam.
thanks
This is what I really want. I don't want any black out happen when I (or someone else) accidently hit the high beam.
thanks
| Avey | 12-09-2001 03:03 AM |
Hi just an update on my relay kit install, I tried installing 30A fuses in my main fuse panel. Firstly for some reason I can flip the diode one the highbeam side on the left headlight any way I want and it won't affect the overall operation of the headlights, they will still work without the dimly lit highbeam symbol. So anyway when I had 20 A fuses in my main fuse panel when I turned on my highbeams it would only burn out the fuse for the rigth headlight. So I installed 30A fuses and tried turning on my highbeams, everything was fine this time the fuse didn't burn, only thing that happened was the diode on the highbeam of the right headlight got really hot and melted the plastic around it a bit, but nothing happened to the left side. This was after leaving it on the highbeam side for about 10 seconds. So I checked the diode and it is fine, and left the 30 A fuses in, so now everything works perfectly and if i accidently hit the high beams I have a few seconds to switch them back without any problems. But I am still not satisfied, so I am going to try to put a resistor in line where the diode goes and see if that will help, in order for the computer to think that the highbeams work there has to be a load being drawn. I'll keep you updated on what happening. BTW just incase you didn't know my highbeams don't actually come on, that is the same thing that happened with you I beleive.
So if you want yours to work the same way as mine, block the flow on the highbeam side of both headlights, and allow flow on both of the lowbeams sides, then replace both fuses under the fuse panel to 30A. So this way if you are driving down the road and acidentally flick on the highbeams nothing will go wrong, just flick them back and your lights will still work. If you turn on you brights you wont get any light so you will automatically switch them back right away anyway, if you don't you will have a few seconds before the diode gets hot.
I talked to an electronics professor and he said that you won't have to worry about putting a 30A fuse in main fuse panel, because the computer only senses a load the load doesn't go trough the computer. So you won't fry the computer.
viodea
No they will just turn off.
So if you want yours to work the same way as mine, block the flow on the highbeam side of both headlights, and allow flow on both of the lowbeams sides, then replace both fuses under the fuse panel to 30A. So this way if you are driving down the road and acidentally flick on the highbeams nothing will go wrong, just flick them back and your lights will still work. If you turn on you brights you wont get any light so you will automatically switch them back right away anyway, if you don't you will have a few seconds before the diode gets hot.
I talked to an electronics professor and he said that you won't have to worry about putting a 30A fuse in main fuse panel, because the computer only senses a load the load doesn't go trough the computer. So you won't fry the computer.
viodea
No they will just turn off.
| viodea | 12-10-2001 05:35 PM |
My HID is on the way and I'm trying to find a way to make it works. Well, at least I won't black out when I accidently hit the high beam. Also, won't have dimming effect on the fog light indicator or high beam out issue.
I'm planning on using 2 relay to solve the issue. I'm no electronic expert. So, let me know if this is a really dumb thing to do. Any suggestion on how to make it work/better is welcome.
I'm planning on using 2 relay to solve the issue. I'm no electronic expert. So, let me know if this is a really dumb thing to do. Any suggestion on how to make it work/better is welcome.
| viodea | 12-12-2001 10:19 AM |
any feed back?
| TYPE wRx | 12-12-2001 09:03 PM |
WRX nonHId Projection headlight
Ok, this is my dilema. i have nonHID projection headlights and want to install EAGLITE HIDs into it. since these projection headlights have 2 bulb (dual) filament. i have a bulb for hi and low so since i got H1 kit for the lows. Will it work properly witout the relay kit? Will i have the foglight problems and such? i have my DRLs disabled and that is my main problem that i wish to avoid. i really want to keep the DRL disabled. Please let me know.
tommy
tommy
| viodea | 12-12-2001 11:14 PM |
I need to buy a fuse for this but don't know how many amp I should use. Can anyone help me with this? I need to connect to 2 HID 35W each.
thanks
thanks
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