| Idjiit | 10-22-2003 08:43 AM |
If it's wet, I'll win! - Rally Catalunya
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[b]GO PETTER!![/b]
[QUOTE][i]From [url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/News/2003/014/2003_R_E_wetwinsolberg.htm[/url][/i]
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"If it rains in Catalunya, I am going to win," Solberg told Motorsport News. "If it is dry I am going for between third and fifth."
"I'm still feeling so good after the win in Corsica that I can't wait to start this rally," he continued. "It's often said that anything's possible, and last week we really showed that! I'm feeling comfortable with my driving style in slippery conditions, and on the repeated runs through the stages in Spain, even in the dry, there's a lot of gravel and dirt on the road, so that should help me I think."
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[QUOTE][i]From [url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/News/2003/014/2003_R_E_wetwinsolberg.htm[/url][/i]
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"If it rains in Catalunya, I am going to win," Solberg told Motorsport News. "If it is dry I am going for between third and fifth."
"I'm still feeling so good after the win in Corsica that I can't wait to start this rally," he continued. "It's often said that anything's possible, and last week we really showed that! I'm feeling comfortable with my driving style in slippery conditions, and on the repeated runs through the stages in Spain, even in the dry, there's a lot of gravel and dirt on the road, so that should help me I think."
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| X1_SRT | 10-22-2003 11:21 AM |
its raining here, so it must be raining in Spain right?!?
i think petter will do well either way. the win in france is huge for him, as it was his first tarmac win. its dry he'll do good, if its wet he'll kick ass!!!
-PJ
i think petter will do well either way. the win in france is huge for him, as it was his first tarmac win. its dry he'll do good, if its wet he'll kick ass!!!
-PJ
| nKoan | 10-22-2003 02:26 PM |
Well, the weather forcast certianly looks to be in Petter's favor :D
[url]http://www.worldrallynews.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1066823364,11816,[/url]
[QUOTE][B]The weather forecast for the Catalonia Rally is poor, giving Subaru renewed hope for a tarmac rally in which it might easily struggle.
Some rain is currently forecast for each of the three days of the Catalan event, which starts on Friday. Drivers expect the route to be slippery in any case, because it is concentrated on the roads around Sant Hilari and Vic, and some stretches of road, used in both directions, will figure up to four times; corner cutting will therefore reduce grip still further.
Pirelli's tyres are generally no match for Michelin's on dry asphalt, but damp conditions give its drivers a fighting chance and allowed Petter Solberg to achieve Subaru's first tarmac victory at World Championship level in five years in Corsica.
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[url]http://www.worldrallynews.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1066823364,11816,[/url]
[QUOTE][B]The weather forecast for the Catalonia Rally is poor, giving Subaru renewed hope for a tarmac rally in which it might easily struggle.
Some rain is currently forecast for each of the three days of the Catalan event, which starts on Friday. Drivers expect the route to be slippery in any case, because it is concentrated on the roads around Sant Hilari and Vic, and some stretches of road, used in both directions, will figure up to four times; corner cutting will therefore reduce grip still further.
Pirelli's tyres are generally no match for Michelin's on dry asphalt, but damp conditions give its drivers a fighting chance and allowed Petter Solberg to achieve Subaru's first tarmac victory at World Championship level in five years in Corsica.
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| BlckRabbt | 10-22-2003 10:15 PM |
I all have to say is Petter is the MAN!
-Matt
-Matt
| Dolphin Overton | 10-23-2003 03:31 AM |
Yes Petter is awesome. Favorite Driver Subaru has ever had... potential to be the best.
| Big C | 10-23-2003 07:12 AM |
Petter has definitely put some excitement back in the WRC...Its great to a driver with alot of confidence who isn't afraid to say it. Loeb would never do this...He would be more like "uhhhhh if I uhhh drive good then uhhhh we might uhhhh win" :lol: Solberg might not be a WRC champion (yet) but IMO he is already far more of a personality/superstar then most past champions will ever be.
We should all do our "rain dance" this weekend to give Petter/Subaru the best chance possible. For me this involves washing the car, it always rains within 12hrs of doing that!
C
We should all do our "rain dance" this weekend to give Petter/Subaru the best chance possible. For me this involves washing the car, it always rains within 12hrs of doing that!
C
| HomerJay | 10-24-2003 03:10 AM |
Well it's dry and Petter is in first. Loeb, Sains, Burns and Martin have run. So maybe Subaru's peformance in the dry won't be too bad! Go Petter!
| nKoan | 10-24-2003 04:02 AM |
Yeah, but he was only .1 sec up. Times after stage two look a little more realistic for a dry weather rally :(
*crosses fingers*hoping for rain
*crosses fingers*hoping for rain
| BoostedBoxer | 10-24-2003 04:15 AM |
just stay 2 spots over el matador and 1 over burns......and same for GB....
:crossfingers:
:crossfingers:
| BoostedBoxer | 10-24-2003 04:26 AM |
as of 3:28
Loeb
Sainz +4.5
Martin +6.9
Mcrae +9.1
Burns +10.5
Solberg +14.3
Makinen +15.5
:( :( :( :( :( :furious:
Loeb
Sainz +4.5
Martin +6.9
Mcrae +9.1
Burns +10.5
Solberg +14.3
Makinen +15.5
:( :( :( :( :( :furious:
| nKoan | 10-24-2003 05:45 AM |
Well, its looking better for Solberg after SS3 (up to 3rd), but I really feel its a bit rediculious for us to post the standings after each stage :D
In other news, I feel bad for Markko. He's driving with a neck brace this weekend due to his crash in France. His co-driver has said that the g-forces are almost too much for Martin to drive at his limit. :(
In other news, I feel bad for Markko. He's driving with a neck brace this weekend due to his crash in France. His co-driver has said that the g-forces are almost too much for Martin to drive at his limit. :(
| X1_SRT | 10-24-2003 11:21 AM |
damnit! petter was penalized 50s. for leaving service 5 mins late. apparently he had an alternator prob just after starting the car to leave service. so they had to replace it. o well. lets just hope it rains!!
-PJ
-PJ
| HomerJay | 10-24-2003 11:53 AM |
:furious: I can't believe the bad luck he's run into 2 rallies in a row. C'mon the luck has to change for Petter
| Kilika2k | 10-24-2003 01:21 PM |
Since Petter is in 11th after leg 1, what order will they be running tomorrow? Does the top 10 go in reverse? I'm wondering since all the cars are pulling gravel onto the road when cutting corners which makes it harder for the people who are going later. Hopefully Petter would be one of the first runners tomorrow so he could claw his way back.
And oh yeah, PRAY FOR RAIN!
And oh yeah, PRAY FOR RAIN!
| X1_SRT | 10-24-2003 02:52 PM |
actually, petter prefers the gravel on the roads. and if its a little wet, even better. the suby is just not a dominating dry tarmac car. but when things get dirty/wet/loose, they really shine!!
-pj
-pj
| Kilika2k | 10-24-2003 02:58 PM |
Yeah, but you don't want to be on gravel while your competitors on clean dry tarmac. Its not the gravel that makes the Scoobies faster, its the gravel which slows down its competitors while the Scooby being less affected by it.
| X1_SRT | 10-24-2003 02:59 PM |
very good point. so when it really makes the difference is when the stage is run for the second or third time. this means all the cars will have to deal with the loose conditions.
-PJ
-PJ
| nKoan | 10-24-2003 03:43 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kilika2k [/i]
[B]Since Petter is in 11th after leg 1, what order will they be running tomorrow? Does the top 10 go in reverse? I'm wondering since all the cars are pulling gravel onto the road when cutting corners which makes it harder for the people who are going later. Hopefully Petter would be one of the first runners tomorrow so he could claw his way back.
And oh yeah, PRAY FOR RAIN! [/B][/QUOTE]
Running order is the top 15 from leg on running backwards, then 16 to the end.
So Petter will be 5th on the road tomorrow. He gets to spray up the dust (and hopefully standing water) for everyone else.
[B]Since Petter is in 11th after leg 1, what order will they be running tomorrow? Does the top 10 go in reverse? I'm wondering since all the cars are pulling gravel onto the road when cutting corners which makes it harder for the people who are going later. Hopefully Petter would be one of the first runners tomorrow so he could claw his way back.
And oh yeah, PRAY FOR RAIN! [/B][/QUOTE]
Running order is the top 15 from leg on running backwards, then 16 to the end.
So Petter will be 5th on the road tomorrow. He gets to spray up the dust (and hopefully standing water) for everyone else.
| RK Performance | 10-25-2003 02:43 AM |
Rally Radio Just began... Sounds like it may be another dry day. About the same as yesterday, but a little warmer. Some teams are predicting rain, others are saying no. So PRAY NOW and PRAY HARD! Subaru is predicting rain at 2:10 pm! lol, they must be praying too.
Go Tommi and Petter!
-Ryan
Go Tommi and Petter!
-Ryan
| Choose | 10-25-2003 08:34 AM |
*Doing the rain dance*
| HomerJay | 10-25-2003 11:33 AM |
Heavy rain is expected tomorrow. But can Petter make up over 2.5 minutes?
| Choose | 10-25-2003 07:19 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HomerJay [/i]
[B]Heavy rain is expected tomorrow. But can Petter make up over 2.5 minutes? [/B][/QUOTE]
No. But at least get into the points!!
[B]Heavy rain is expected tomorrow. But can Petter make up over 2.5 minutes? [/B][/QUOTE]
No. But at least get into the points!!
| Kitsune | 10-25-2003 09:14 PM |
Sainz, Martin and Leob are going to be pushing each other hard tommarow, so it is very possiable that someone could make a very costly mistake like in Corsica. Loeb seems to have some trouble being fast when it is very wet and Martin might still be feeling a bit reserved after his off in Corsica. I don't exect Sainz to slip up though, he's a cool vet.
| Kitsune | 10-25-2003 09:15 PM |
I did not mention Pinnizi because he is not in the title hunt...just wanted to note that.
| dynoguy | 10-25-2003 09:59 PM |
well too bad for petter's :50 sec time penalty or he be in 7th place and in a better position to attack!
GO PETTER!:banana:
MIKE KASCH
GO PETTER!:banana:
MIKE KASCH
| WRXedUSA | 10-26-2003 02:34 AM |
Pirelli's are the rox0r!!!!!
Giddyup SWRT!!!
Giddyup SWRT!!!
| Kilika2k | 10-26-2003 04:11 AM |
Wow...the Subarus are making up some major time after SS19. At this rate, Petter may finish the rally in 4th place if it keeps raining. If it wasn't for the penalty, he would be fighing for second with a chance of winning the rally! Too bad for Richard Burns, his chance for the championship just fizzled up by going off road.
| nKoan | 10-26-2003 04:14 AM |
Yeah, SS19 is amazing. Tommi has a time that looks to be nearly 1 minute up on everybody, except Petter.
Amazing.
: prayingformorerain :
Amazing.
: prayingformorerain :
| Takashi | 10-26-2003 05:27 AM |
on a side note, it looks like burnsie is out of the championship hunt...
and what channel is wrc on??? speedvision? i need a satelite! the world rally radio live from wrc.com just isn't cuttin it!
and what channel is wrc on??? speedvision? i need a satelite! the world rally radio live from wrc.com just isn't cuttin it!
| Choose | 10-26-2003 06:02 AM |
2 stages to go!!
Hopefully Petter can get up into 5th...and if only he could get pass Sainz in 4th!!!!
Hopefully Petter can get up into 5th...and if only he could get pass Sainz in 4th!!!!
| Kilika2k | 10-26-2003 07:18 AM |
WOW
Panizzi passes Loeb in the very last stage for the win! And Sainz just dropped down to 7th and Petter grabs 5th! Hmm..the Subarus weren't that fast in that last stage as assumed they would be but what a great result for what happened earlier in the rally!
1. G PANIZZI 3:55:09.4
2. S LOEB +13.0
3. M M�RTIN +13.6
4. F DUVAL +55.4
5. P SOLBERG +1:10.8
6. M GR�NHOLM +1:29.1
7. C SAINZ +1:33.0
8. T M�KINEN +1:55.1
9. C MCRAE +3:15.2
10. P BUGALSKI +5:13.6
Panizzi passes Loeb in the very last stage for the win! And Sainz just dropped down to 7th and Petter grabs 5th! Hmm..the Subarus weren't that fast in that last stage as assumed they would be but what a great result for what happened earlier in the rally!
1. G PANIZZI 3:55:09.4
2. S LOEB +13.0
3. M M�RTIN +13.6
4. F DUVAL +55.4
5. P SOLBERG +1:10.8
6. M GR�NHOLM +1:29.1
7. C SAINZ +1:33.0
8. T M�KINEN +1:55.1
9. C MCRAE +3:15.2
10. P BUGALSKI +5:13.6
| Choose | 10-26-2003 07:39 AM |
This is a great setup for the rally of GB. Solberg and Sainz will go head to head. I don't think that Loeb will be anywhere close!!!
| rupertberr | 10-26-2003 08:49 AM |
Wow...what a finish. Warming up VCR right now.
Rally GB is going to be good:
_Position_ _Driver _Points_
_1_ _Sebastian Loeb__ _63__
_=_ _Carlos Sainz__ _63__
_3_ _Petter Solberg__ _62__
_4_ _Richard Burns__ _58__
_5_ _Markko Martin__ _49__
_6_ _Marcus Gronholm__ _46__
_7_ _Colin McRae__ _40__
_8_ _Gilles Panizzi__ _27__
_9_ _Francois Duval__ _26__
_10_ _Tommi Makinen__ _24__
_11_ _Harri Rovanpera__ _18__
_12_ _Toni Gardemeister__ _9__
_13_ _Didier Auriol__ _4__
_14_ _Mikko Hirvonen__ _3__
_=14_ _Alister McRae__ _3__
_=14_ _Cedric Robert__ _3__
_=14_ _Armin Schwarz__ _3__
_18_ _Janne Tuohino__ _2__
_19_ _Philippe Bugalski__ _1__
_=19_ _Alistair Ginley__ _1__
_=19_ _Sebastian Lindholm__ _1__
_=19_ _Freddy Loix__
Rally GB is going to be good:
_Position_ _Driver _Points_
_1_ _Sebastian Loeb__ _63__
_=_ _Carlos Sainz__ _63__
_3_ _Petter Solberg__ _62__
_4_ _Richard Burns__ _58__
_5_ _Markko Martin__ _49__
_6_ _Marcus Gronholm__ _46__
_7_ _Colin McRae__ _40__
_8_ _Gilles Panizzi__ _27__
_9_ _Francois Duval__ _26__
_10_ _Tommi Makinen__ _24__
_11_ _Harri Rovanpera__ _18__
_12_ _Toni Gardemeister__ _9__
_13_ _Didier Auriol__ _4__
_14_ _Mikko Hirvonen__ _3__
_=14_ _Alister McRae__ _3__
_=14_ _Cedric Robert__ _3__
_=14_ _Armin Schwarz__ _3__
_18_ _Janne Tuohino__ _2__
_19_ _Philippe Bugalski__ _1__
_=19_ _Alistair Ginley__ _1__
_=19_ _Sebastian Lindholm__ _1__
_=19_ _Freddy Loix__
| ANZAC_1915 | 10-26-2003 10:13 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Choose [/i]
[B]This is a great setup for the rally of GB. Solberg and Sainz will go head to head. I don't think that Loeb will be anywhere close!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Burnsie could still win too! And Loeb has been getting better on gravel.
[B]This is a great setup for the rally of GB. Solberg and Sainz will go head to head. I don't think that Loeb will be anywhere close!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Burnsie could still win too! And Loeb has been getting better on gravel.
| Smelli Bugatti | 10-26-2003 10:27 AM |
Loeb did very well in Australia I think it will be about Petter and Loeb in Rally UK. El Matadore always does well but not well enough to win. What a team for next year with Richard and Petter on the same team. I hope the tire issue gets worked out. Team soobe cant rely on rain to win on asphalt
| Choose | 10-26-2003 10:39 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Glenn Wallace [/i]
[B]Burnsie could still win too! And Loeb has been getting better on gravel. [/B][/QUOTE]
Very true. But which ever way it goes, it will be a very exciting finally!!!! Great for the sport!!!:)
[B]Burnsie could still win too! And Loeb has been getting better on gravel. [/B][/QUOTE]
Very true. But which ever way it goes, it will be a very exciting finally!!!! Great for the sport!!!:)
| Kitsune | 10-26-2003 12:03 PM |
All Solberg really has to do is finish in front of Loeb and Sainz. Even if he tied on points, he has more wins this season and that would give him the championship. But finishing in front will probably mean winning the rally. Hopefully we don't see team orders with Citreon.
| Kitsune | 10-26-2003 12:04 PM |
whoops...Leob and Solberg have same amount.
| Senger | 10-26-2003 04:08 PM |
Anyone know the next tie breaker after rally wins? Fastest times?
| Takashi | 10-26-2003 04:11 PM |
this is the perfect scenario! 4 people shooting for the championship with wales to go! nice...
oh, and it's petter all the way
greg
oh, and it's petter all the way
greg
| Kitsune | 10-26-2003 04:57 PM |
I think the next tie breaker is most stage wins over the season.
| Templar | 10-26-2003 06:56 PM |
Now just think if Petter hadn't had that 50 second penalty. he would have been fouth instead of fifth and there would be a three way tie for first going into the final race. Talk about excitement. :eek:
| Dolphin Overton | 10-26-2003 09:17 PM |
I am trying to watch it right now, but Comcast has messed up SPEED channel again:( :furious: It's just a blank screen. I know who wins, but i just wanna watch.
| bemani | 10-26-2003 11:15 PM |
If only Markko could've driven harder and knock Loeb to 3rd place :disco:
Good job Richard and Carlos! :D
Hopefully no more mechanical problem with the Subarus :(
Now its Solberg vs Loeb. :banana:
Good job Richard and Carlos! :D
Hopefully no more mechanical problem with the Subarus :(
Now its Solberg vs Loeb. :banana:
| WRXedUSA | 10-26-2003 11:52 PM |
Here we go again!! Chad's observations after watching the telecast.
1. My next set of Rubbers are going to be Pirelli's
2. 600 MILES in transit between stages in Catulunya? WOW holey my back is sore in the Recaro Batman!!
3. Richard is teh suck. I'd almost want Colin at Subaru next year than to deal with his wineyness.
4. On that note, Colin hasnt wrecked a car in a LONG time
5. Lets set up a charity to get Penny's teef fixed.
6. Tell my how Michelin told Richard to choose the wrong tire on leg one??
7. WRC's TV coverage it top class, I'm happy. Rally Radio is off the hook too.
8. If I robbed a bank, I'd want Carlos to be my getaway driver
9. Tommi really drove with passion on SS19
10. Panizzi's eyes are the size of beach balls when driving. Intense.
11. Notice how Carlos tests the corner grip with a little wiggle of the wheel before dumping the car in a corner??
12. Was the RS Ford really that much quicker that the rest?
13. Why can VW help Skoda find power that they need?
14. Holey I need a titanium skid plate!!
And my top observation:
If Carlos or Petter wins the championship, I will be crying happy tears for either one equally!
I will give Petter the nod in Cardiff though.
1. My next set of Rubbers are going to be Pirelli's
2. 600 MILES in transit between stages in Catulunya? WOW holey my back is sore in the Recaro Batman!!
3. Richard is teh suck. I'd almost want Colin at Subaru next year than to deal with his wineyness.
4. On that note, Colin hasnt wrecked a car in a LONG time
5. Lets set up a charity to get Penny's teef fixed.
6. Tell my how Michelin told Richard to choose the wrong tire on leg one??
7. WRC's TV coverage it top class, I'm happy. Rally Radio is off the hook too.
8. If I robbed a bank, I'd want Carlos to be my getaway driver
9. Tommi really drove with passion on SS19
10. Panizzi's eyes are the size of beach balls when driving. Intense.
11. Notice how Carlos tests the corner grip with a little wiggle of the wheel before dumping the car in a corner??
12. Was the RS Ford really that much quicker that the rest?
13. Why can VW help Skoda find power that they need?
14. Holey I need a titanium skid plate!!
And my top observation:
If Carlos or Petter wins the championship, I will be crying happy tears for either one equally!
I will give Petter the nod in Cardiff though.
| nKoan | 10-27-2003 12:28 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRXedUSA [/i]
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If Carlos or Petter wins the championship, I will be crying happy tears for either one equally!
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Agreed. Seeing Petter win, well thats obvious why that would make me happy. But it would also be amazing to see Carlos win, 11 years after his last win. It would really send a message that experience still counts for something in this sport.
And truth be told, I could be quite happy seeing Seb on the top podium spot.
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If Carlos or Petter wins the championship, I will be crying happy tears for either one equally!
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Agreed. Seeing Petter win, well thats obvious why that would make me happy. But it would also be amazing to see Carlos win, 11 years after his last win. It would really send a message that experience still counts for something in this sport.
And truth be told, I could be quite happy seeing Seb on the top podium spot.
| BoostedBoxer | 10-27-2003 12:59 AM |
whoever wins will have earned it....
it would just be that much sweeter if the winner wore blue/gold
it would just be that much sweeter if the winner wore blue/gold
| RichQY | 10-27-2003 03:08 AM |
best season of motorsports of recent years
F1 and now this.
lets go Petter!!!!
F1 and now this.
lets go Petter!!!!
| DISCOPOPE | 10-27-2003 11:30 AM |
[QUOTE]10. Panizzi's eyes are the size of beach balls when driving. Intense.[/QUOTE]
yep, he freightens me....
yep, he freightens me....
| Takashi | 10-27-2003 02:28 PM |
"I can promise you I will do my best. I don�t think I will go flat out from the start. I have to keep Seb and Carlos behind me. That�s more important than winning the rally. You know you don�t have to win every battle to win the war."
-petter solberg on the last rally of the year...
-petter solberg on the last rally of the year...
| Takashi | 10-27-2003 08:55 PM |
[url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/default.htm[/url]
and do you see the championship poll??? 56% think that petter's taking it! :eek:
petter is bettar!
and do you see the championship poll??? 56% think that petter's taking it! :eek:
petter is bettar!
| Idjiit | 10-28-2003 09:14 AM |
For once, I actually agree with the poll. Solberg is smart enough to play it safe, and he has the advantage over both the Citroens and Peugeot. Barring any technical difficulties, I think he'll take it. And by "take it", I mean the Championship. He'll let Colin win if it means taking 2nd, [b]and[/b] the Championship.
For once I wish I still had Speed TV. :(
For once I wish I still had Speed TV. :(
| gtguy | 10-28-2003 09:50 AM |
Hey, I'm trying to find someone who recorded this show...anyone?
Kevin
Kevin
| Smelli Bugatti | 10-28-2003 09:55 PM |
Penny and her crooked teeth are fine. Its somewhat refreshing to see somebody on TV who inst a million dollar made over postergirl
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