| BigElm | 04-29-2001 08:06 PM |
I'm Upset....Please help w/ Headlamp Bulbs
Ok...first, I've been around here long enough and have covered areas of headlights (bulbs)...and before you say "search", been there done that...
I have changed my PIAA's Superwhites twice...the second set actually lasted longer than the first set. But now I have to buy another set...!!!
So...to h*** with PIAA!!! They are good in output but are crappy in longitivity [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Since I don't have any real $$$ to spend on HID's and all that stuff...Besides, I'm considering selling my RS.
I've noticed from the search that Hella Optilux Xenon are comparable to the PIAA Superwhites.
Anyone have them??? How reliable are they???
Or is there something similar out there I'm not aware of...bulb wise!
My interest is brighter and longer range NOT how cute the blue looks (i.e. Sylvania Cool Blue)
Please help so I can buy these tomorrow...
Also, where do they sell the cheapest (price wise).
Thanks in advance....![img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif[/img]
I have changed my PIAA's Superwhites twice...the second set actually lasted longer than the first set. But now I have to buy another set...!!!
So...to h*** with PIAA!!! They are good in output but are crappy in longitivity [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Since I don't have any real $$$ to spend on HID's and all that stuff...Besides, I'm considering selling my RS.
I've noticed from the search that Hella Optilux Xenon are comparable to the PIAA Superwhites.
Anyone have them??? How reliable are they???
Or is there something similar out there I'm not aware of...bulb wise!
My interest is brighter and longer range NOT how cute the blue looks (i.e. Sylvania Cool Blue)
Please help so I can buy these tomorrow...
Also, where do they sell the cheapest (price wise).
Thanks in advance....![img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif[/img]
| subpreza | 04-29-2001 08:25 PM |
I sell PIAA at my shop and have no problem. Are you cleaning the bulbs with DENATURED ALCOHOL? It is a must! Any grease or dirt particles on the bulbs will create excessive heat and cause either a blown bulb or a burn out!
| Subie Gal | 04-29-2001 08:43 PM |
HELLA's i HIGHLY recommend...
I had them on my GT
Catz I have had success with too...
have them on my RS now...
i used to have PIAA superwhites on my GT and did not have too much success with them as well.
J. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
I had them on my GT
Catz I have had success with too...
have them on my RS now...
i used to have PIAA superwhites on my GT and did not have too much success with them as well.
J. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| Kaotikimpreza | 04-29-2001 09:02 PM |
piass suck get apc
| IMPREZA GUY | 04-29-2001 09:08 PM |
APC suck, i just got some fog light bulbs from APC, and had them in for a day and a half, next thing you know the bulb blows up in my fog light and now my fog looks like crap with all this smoke on the lens and white crap on the reflector, i am very pissed off
| au112 | 04-29-2001 10:34 PM |
How much is a pair of Hella Optilux Xenon cost? How much is a pair of Catz bulbs cost?
| BigElm | 04-30-2001 07:12 AM |
I tried posting last night to subpreza's reply but my browser was acting a bit strange...anyway, I wrote a good encyclopedia last night but I'll be brief this morning...First of all, for some $75 bulbs, I don't think we should be cleaning them in the first place....Second, don't you think consumers should be told about this???Well, I'm already disgraced with PIAA...the brightness and range is awesome but the longitivity sucks!!!
Anyway, the bottom line is that I'm thinking about getting the Hella Optilux Xenon, so anyone know where to get the 80W output??? Any suggestions on cheap prices???
Thanks again...
Anyway, the bottom line is that I'm thinking about getting the Hella Optilux Xenon, so anyone know where to get the 80W output??? Any suggestions on cheap prices???
Thanks again...
| Subie Gal | 04-30-2001 07:25 AM |
relax guys... just post what's happened to YOU here... and others will learn from it...
hella's... [url="http://catalog.com/susq/hella/bulbs.htm"]http://catalog.com/susq/hella/bulbs.htm[/url]
catz i got at a local performance shop... paid too much... like $70 i think.. but they are still burning bright...
j. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
hella's... [url="http://catalog.com/susq/hella/bulbs.htm"]http://catalog.com/susq/hella/bulbs.htm[/url]
catz i got at a local performance shop... paid too much... like $70 i think.. but they are still burning bright...
j. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| BigElm | 04-30-2001 08:30 AM |
Ok...call me dumb but I don't see the Optilux Xenon bulbs just the fog lamps...Is it somewhere specific or do I have to email them...?[img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif[/img]
| Subie Gal | 04-30-2001 08:34 AM |
acutally [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/frown.gif[/img]
i searched on that...
seems Ken has removed them from his web site... as there were some similar complaints as is being said here about PIAA's...
he wont sell 'flakey' products...
try the highest level Hellas or the Yellowstars...those are fantastic as well.
j. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
i searched on that...
seems Ken has removed them from his web site... as there were some similar complaints as is being said here about PIAA's...
he wont sell 'flakey' products...
try the highest level Hellas or the Yellowstars...those are fantastic as well.
j. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| c-shell | 04-30-2001 08:39 AM |
Ken at Susquehanna (the link Jamie posted) dropped the Optilux Xenon due to quality issues. Originally Hella pulled them to work on the Optilux quality. This it took about 6+ months for them to get back on the market. Then new ones Ken got failed so said he wouldn't carry them anymore.
That is what I went through when I was looking for optilux and why you don't see them.
chris
That is what I went through when I was looking for optilux and why you don't see them.
chris
| BigElm | 04-30-2001 09:34 AM |
Wow...
Ok thanks...I guess I'll keep searching...keep ya posted...
Ok thanks...I guess I'll keep searching...keep ya posted...
| BigElm | 04-30-2001 02:47 PM |
Well, here's the story...Optilux nowhere to be found...nobody carries them anymore...I really liked the Superwhites and looked for comparisons to the Superwhites; because of the brightness especially at night, my search wasn't easy but I finally gave in to the Hiper SuperWhite Xenon Bulbs...through Ebay, but I actually called the company for the 130/100 output....$28.99, not bad compared to $75 for the PIAA's. Well, I guess when they come in this week, I'll give you feedback...They're guaranteed for 1 yr., hopefully I won't have to change them...
I just hope the bullet doesn't blow in my mouth after biting it....[img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
I just hope the bullet doesn't blow in my mouth after biting it....[img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
| subpreza | 04-30-2001 08:08 PM |
If you buy bulbs from a REPUTABLE store, they will tell you how to install and clean your new bulbs. I have very few bulbs return, mainly problems with Civics from excessive heat transfer and bad ground. By the way, there are only six companies that actually make these bulbs. Companies buy the rights to market them. APC, HYPER, and NAXOS are all the same bulb. Until these bulbs are built, shipped, and installed in a true vacuum environment then you will need to clean them. Dust particles will destroy these bulbs. Glass naturally attracts dust. Clean your bulbs.
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| au112 | 04-30-2001 08:16 PM |
Are these bulbs reliable?
Are they 55/60W = 110/120W bulbs?
Post a pic of them pls.
Are they 55/60W = 110/120W bulbs?
Post a pic of them pls.
| LongIsland RS | 04-30-2001 09:23 PM |
$35 for the headlamps
$35 for the fogs
No problems and have had them for almost a year
<IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/jpoveyjr/linked/largepics/hyperwh.jpg" border=0>
John
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/jpoveyjr/car.html">John's Scooby</a>
[This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited April 30, 2001).]
$35 for the fogs
No problems and have had them for almost a year
<IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/jpoveyjr/linked/largepics/hyperwh.jpg" border=0>
John
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/jpoveyjr/car.html">John's Scooby</a>
[This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited April 30, 2001).]
| sybir | 04-30-2001 09:51 PM |
btw, susquehanna isn't sellin yellowstars anymore either, becuase of too many returns for shoddy bulbs........
| 01 Black RS | 04-30-2001 11:49 PM |
I have Hiper bulbs in mine for 3 months and they are working great. I got mine for $20.00 on ebay
| BoulderSuby | 05-01-2001 12:04 AM |
I just got some Xenon's from the dealer for $45 a pair. They're super bright but on the downside they're also pretty blue. Check and see if you're dealer carries them if you don't mind the blue. I can't remember what they're called but they're a direct Japanese import. (I like the directions- "you should install properly")[img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gif[/img]
| BigElm | 05-01-2001 05:33 AM |
Well when they come in, I will be comparing them with my PIAA Superwhites in the foglights...still working...hope not to jinx them with this post [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
I was told they're very similar if not identical to the PIAA superwhites, I'll be the judge to that....we'll see.....
I was told they're very similar if not identical to the PIAA superwhites, I'll be the judge to that....we'll see.....
| outback | 05-01-2001 07:10 AM |
so what are you guys saying for a good dependable light? PIAA? HELLA? APC? Or is it pretty much how much luck each has had with each. Let me know.
| Subie Gal | 05-01-2001 07:25 AM |
wow u guys!!
i've been running CATZ since January... w/no issues.. so far [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
maybe give them a try???
j.
i've been running CATZ since January... w/no issues.. so far [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
maybe give them a try???
j.
| mykrrrr | 05-01-2001 08:10 AM |
I've blown out 3 PIAAs on my RS so far and I switched to RAYBRIG POLARG for my headlights. They're really nice so far *knock on wood*...
I had PIAAs on my old truck and they were great but that's not the case on the Scooby.
I'm gonna get some HELLA driving lamps soon.
-myk
I had PIAAs on my old truck and they were great but that's not the case on the Scooby.
I'm gonna get some HELLA driving lamps soon.
-myk
| BigElm | 05-01-2001 10:26 AM |
Subie G:
Don't the CATZ come with a kit?? It's not just the bulbs right???
I'm just looking for the less expensive being I will be selling my car soon...[img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/frown.gif[/img]
Don't the CATZ come with a kit?? It's not just the bulbs right???
I'm just looking for the less expensive being I will be selling my car soon...[img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/frown.gif[/img]
| Subie Gal | 05-01-2001 10:50 AM |
these are just the bulbs... i forget the wattage.. but i have the package at home... got em at a local um... 'performance' shop...
$70 i think...
if they burn up... i'm getting hella's again
j. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
$70 i think...
if they burn up... i'm getting hella's again
j. [url="http://www.subiegal.com"]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| Jason | 05-01-2001 05:41 PM |
I have Philip blue vision and after 2 month of use, it's holding up so far. The bulb is not actually no where near blue. it's more like Hella Optilux bulb I used to have.
BTW, Hella Optilux are very poor quality bulbs. I had 3 sets of them and non of the bulbs made it over 1.5 month.
I got the Philips from [url="http://www.autolamps-online.com/home.htm"]Autolamps[/url] They also have interesting articles about headlights and lamps.
I am quite happy with the philip bulbs so far, although it is not as white/blue as others, it is for sure brighter than stock bulbs.
BTW, Hella Optilux are very poor quality bulbs. I had 3 sets of them and non of the bulbs made it over 1.5 month.
I got the Philips from [url="http://www.autolamps-online.com/home.htm"]Autolamps[/url] They also have interesting articles about headlights and lamps.
I am quite happy with the philip bulbs so far, although it is not as white/blue as others, it is for sure brighter than stock bulbs.
| au112 | 05-02-2001 08:28 PM |
Is anyone using the Hella Xenon bulb? The one in Susquehanna Motorsport. How is the quality and its colour?
| DEVO-2nd GEN | 05-02-2001 09:40 PM |
replying to the original post, but interesting to whoever thinks white bulbs are brighter.
check this link [url="http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=102"]http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=102[/url]
If you want usable lights, not looks, stick with stock, or something like Hella H4+30. Because white color may seem brighter, but can't fool light sensors [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
even PIAA, according to their test, under performed quite a bit compare to stock.
and others are just simply terrible.
Regarding Hella H4+30... seems to have a bit longer range, even though i can't tell how it is brighter than stock; appearantly other drivers could. I never changed the angle of my reflectors, but now I get flashed by on coming traffics on low beam [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif[/img]
check this link [url="http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=102"]http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=102[/url]
If you want usable lights, not looks, stick with stock, or something like Hella H4+30. Because white color may seem brighter, but can't fool light sensors [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
even PIAA, according to their test, under performed quite a bit compare to stock.
and others are just simply terrible.
Regarding Hella H4+30... seems to have a bit longer range, even though i can't tell how it is brighter than stock; appearantly other drivers could. I never changed the angle of my reflectors, but now I get flashed by on coming traffics on low beam [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif[/img]
| CosmoTheCat | 05-03-2001 12:59 AM |
Well I don't know what was wrong with their car... I've got a '91 Civic DX hatchback, and when I jumped from the stock lights to PIAA platinums, there was a big difference. Maybe not to the light meter, but being able to see things was nice. The Honda's lights aren't nearly as bad as the Subaru stock lights though.
Now I've got Hella 80/100 H4's in my Subaru and they work admirably.
Now I've got Hella 80/100 H4's in my Subaru and they work admirably.
| Norris | 05-03-2001 05:59 AM |
I bought superwhite EuroLite and they were inexpensive and work well. It's only been about 6 months, but no blowing or anything. I called around and all the distributors said that they no longer sell the 100W ones cause they overheat the wiring harness and blow out much too frequently. I did a quick search for Eurolite, and here's a link: [url="http://www.aieonline.com/4/cat4.htm?298"]http://www.aieonline.com/4/cat4.htm?298[/url]
Incidentally, I only paid $40 Canadian including taxes - that's about $25US. I highly recommend them.
Incidentally, I only paid $40 Canadian including taxes - that's about $25US. I highly recommend them.
| BigElm | 05-03-2001 07:38 AM |
In response to the comparability of stocks vs. whites observed by meters doesn't cut for me...
I have heard so many things about how whites are not bright according to technological observation measures. Honestly, I've done my share of research and to MY naked eye, I can see a difference. There may be a difference between the whites vs. higher wattage bulbs, but the difference is that I can see MUCH better with the whites. Remember, even if you have a higher output wattage with 'yellow' bulbs, the whites still are brighter (seeing much better) even if the wattage is not the same as the higher stock. (i.e 75/65 whites vs. 85/80 stocks). I'm not speaking of what I've heard or read but of what I've seen with my very eyes.
Maybe to a meter, the whites are not brighter but to the naked eye, you can see much better, and the road is clearer.
I have heard so many things about how whites are not bright according to technological observation measures. Honestly, I've done my share of research and to MY naked eye, I can see a difference. There may be a difference between the whites vs. higher wattage bulbs, but the difference is that I can see MUCH better with the whites. Remember, even if you have a higher output wattage with 'yellow' bulbs, the whites still are brighter (seeing much better) even if the wattage is not the same as the higher stock. (i.e 75/65 whites vs. 85/80 stocks). I'm not speaking of what I've heard or read but of what I've seen with my very eyes.
Maybe to a meter, the whites are not brighter but to the naked eye, you can see much better, and the road is clearer.
| Accurit | 05-03-2001 08:52 AM |
sup?
i dont use hella, piaas or any other ones mentioned in this post i use Mega White H4 they are 60/55w same as our stock ones and H3 are 12V 55w a slight difference from the H4 of course they do make more powerful ones......but with 60/55wthey are a big improvement from stock lighting and no problems with it so far....i had them in my other car fo over 10 months and they still goin strong.... the ones in my RS its only been 5 months but no probs yet....the cost is from 40 - 35bucks...thats the avg price fo them
fo the price and quality they are great...they shine white wit a hint of blue..
i dont use hella, piaas or any other ones mentioned in this post i use Mega White H4 they are 60/55w same as our stock ones and H3 are 12V 55w a slight difference from the H4 of course they do make more powerful ones......but with 60/55wthey are a big improvement from stock lighting and no problems with it so far....i had them in my other car fo over 10 months and they still goin strong.... the ones in my RS its only been 5 months but no probs yet....the cost is from 40 - 35bucks...thats the avg price fo them
fo the price and quality they are great...they shine white wit a hint of blue..
| STi Boy | 05-03-2001 11:50 AM |
i bought one of those cheapo ebay headlights and they are awesome!! they were brighter then Hiper industeries bulbs!
| CosmoTheCat | 05-03-2001 03:47 PM |
hmm. I remember reading somewhere that wattage does not equal candlepower. [img]http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
I believe wattage refers to the amount of energy consumed whereas candlepower is the measure of the light output. If that's true, you can have same-wattage bulbs put out different amounts of light. You could also have a higher wattage bulb put out less light than a bulb consuming less energy.
It makes sense. I just haven't noticed it for myself.
[This message has been edited by horatio102 (edited May 03, 2001).]
I believe wattage refers to the amount of energy consumed whereas candlepower is the measure of the light output. If that's true, you can have same-wattage bulbs put out different amounts of light. You could also have a higher wattage bulb put out less light than a bulb consuming less energy.
It makes sense. I just haven't noticed it for myself.
[This message has been edited by horatio102 (edited May 03, 2001).]
| BigElm | 05-03-2001 08:06 PM |
Right...that too..That's why there are different versions or styles of bulbs...
| BigElm | 05-04-2001 12:53 AM |
STi Boy:
Wattage plays a big role in the comparisons of bulbs, whites and any other...
Wattage plays a big role in the comparisons of bulbs, whites and any other...
| BigElm | 05-07-2001 07:18 AM |
Ok...I got the Hiper bulbs....
They are bright with a hint of blue, if not, probably a little too much for my taste...
Anyway, they work and they're bright...let's see how long they last....
They are bright with a hint of blue, if not, probably a little too much for my taste...
Anyway, they work and they're bright...let's see how long they last....
| eaz | 05-07-2001 07:43 AM |
I've read that small electrical surges can blow out the bulbs prematurely. I bought a relay kit from [url="http://www.autobulbdepot.com"]www.autobulbdepot.com[/url] that is supposed to prevent this. I haven't installed the bulbs or the kit yet but I thought it was good insurance. Relay kit was around $45 and includes two relays and wiring that plugs into existing headlight harness and provides two new female headlight plugs to plug onto the new bulbs. Two ground wires and 1 power wire too hook up. Nice set but with ugly yellow wire harness covering.
| BigElm | 05-07-2001 11:19 AM |
Just some fyi....
Although the Hiper Superwhites are bright, you truely get what you pay for....
My H3 PIAA Superwhites are actually brighter than my Hiper's. But I think it's because of the blue hint, that kinda offsets the vision brightness through the naked eye....oh well....
Although the Hiper Superwhites are bright, you truely get what you pay for....
My H3 PIAA Superwhites are actually brighter than my Hiper's. But I think it's because of the blue hint, that kinda offsets the vision brightness through the naked eye....oh well....
| seowitz | 08-15-2001 07:05 PM |
Hiper's suck
The Hiper Industries' xenon plasma blue's suck big time. If you actually want to see the road, and objects in the road. Light is completely lost in the vegetation on the side of the road, and on newly paved asphalt are even worse!
These bulbs are simply too blue! They are like those Blue Party light bulbs you can buy at wal mart for your household light sockets. I ended up going with the Sylvania Cool Blue cheapo halogens. The light temperature (color) is exactly what I was looking for. White, not blue. I just wish they had a little more distance to them.
I am going to try the Catz or Hella yellow star soon.
If you just drive in the city with street lights, then your headlights look blue if that's all you use your headlights for.
These bulbs are simply too blue! They are like those Blue Party light bulbs you can buy at wal mart for your household light sockets. I ended up going with the Sylvania Cool Blue cheapo halogens. The light temperature (color) is exactly what I was looking for. White, not blue. I just wish they had a little more distance to them.
I am going to try the Catz or Hella yellow star soon.
If you just drive in the city with street lights, then your headlights look blue if that's all you use your headlights for.
| seowitz | 08-15-2001 07:07 PM |
Bulb size question
Do the sizes and design of the bulbs (H1, 9006, etc) have anything the output at all? I'm assuming they dont, but was just curious since a lot of newer light housings seem to use an h7 or something to that effect.
| BigElm | 08-16-2001 11:22 AM |
Seo:
There are different outputs for same size bulbs...so..to answer your question...Yes.
There are different outputs for same size bulbs...so..to answer your question...Yes.
| SubaruStu | 08-16-2001 11:33 AM |
If you are not looking specifically for white/blue bulbs, what I
have done is used H4 bulbs that are sold for snowmobiles. They
come in a variety of wattages (I think that mine are 55/100s) but
I know of people running 100/135s!
Best of all, they last long, and they are cheap.
SubaruStu
have done is used H4 bulbs that are sold for snowmobiles. They
come in a variety of wattages (I think that mine are 55/100s) but
I know of people running 100/135s!
Best of all, they last long, and they are cheap.
SubaruStu
| dRu18 | 08-16-2001 11:45 AM |
i don't know about you guys but i have had the PIAA's super plasma's for a year + now and i've only had one blow. it's in the fog lamp. i think most people find that bulbs blow usually more in their fog lamps. the headlights still work fine, i use my highbeams a lot as well. these are a little pricey.. but should last about 1 year.
| seowitz | 08-16-2001 12:17 PM |
Thanks SubaruStu
Thanks SubaruStu
I think I'm going to give those a shot after I put in some Hella 500's in the fog lamp position. I'm going to see about wiring those with the high beams so they only come on with my high beams, then get some aftermarket fogs and put those in the air dam and wire the stock fog wiring to those new fogs.
If anyone can help me with wiring diagrams or suggestions in wiring the Hella 500's to the high beam wiring, then please let me know!
Thanks
Erik
:D
I think I'm going to give those a shot after I put in some Hella 500's in the fog lamp position. I'm going to see about wiring those with the high beams so they only come on with my high beams, then get some aftermarket fogs and put those in the air dam and wire the stock fog wiring to those new fogs.
If anyone can help me with wiring diagrams or suggestions in wiring the Hella 500's to the high beam wiring, then please let me know!
Thanks
Erik
:D
| Arnie | 08-16-2001 01:53 PM |
Hella 500's
Seowitz, the Hella 500's come in a fog or driving light variation. if you get the driving lght then it will probably have a harness for you to hook up to your high beams .
| manof1997 | 01-03-2005 10:53 PM |
I have finally found the best Xenon bulbs
Guys,
I have been using my Xenon bulbs for two years now and I LOVE them. They are 55w rated at 7500k. It gives off a really nice white bluish light.
I have bought them long time ago at
[B][url]www.LuxuryXenon.com[/url][/B]
I have been using my Xenon bulbs for two years now and I LOVE them. They are 55w rated at 7500k. It gives off a really nice white bluish light.
I have bought them long time ago at
[B][url]www.LuxuryXenon.com[/url][/B]
| teknisa | 01-03-2005 11:04 PM |
i'm surprised no one mentioned [url]www.rallylights.com[/url]
| BrysImpreza | 01-03-2005 11:51 PM |
If you're looking for the best bang for the buck bulbs, get some M-Tecs, I have the Goldens in my high beams, the ultra whites are good and they were the only high wattage bulbs not to melt my harnesses.
Price = 1/2 What PIAA and Hella charge
Output = the goldens are amazing for rain and snow
Life = Ran a set in my 97 L for over a year until a rock hit my lense, then in my FXT until the accident and about 4 month running in the TS.
I paid like $20 shipped, so I'm never gonna complain, if they're good enough for some JGTC cars, they're good enough for my car.
Price = 1/2 What PIAA and Hella charge
Output = the goldens are amazing for rain and snow
Life = Ran a set in my 97 L for over a year until a rock hit my lense, then in my FXT until the accident and about 4 month running in the TS.
I paid like $20 shipped, so I'm never gonna complain, if they're good enough for some JGTC cars, they're good enough for my car.
| evoSTI | 02-05-2005 11:47 AM |
Hi, I'm an unregistered vendor
| Riot Type WRX | 02-05-2005 11:49 AM |
Are you like a Motion R vendor? If so this sort of thing is frowned upon.
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