| bemani | 06-29-2005 06:38 PM |
[QUOTE=johnfelstead]I was refering to a previous post in this thread by OnTheGas, bemani.
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:shrug: I wanted to vent about Prodrive anyways :furious:
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:shrug: I wanted to vent about Prodrive anyways :furious:
| Dr. WOT | 06-30-2005 08:54 AM |
[QUOTE=stiski][QUOTE=Car #187]What was up with Speed's over use of the "virtual spectator" crap? It's horrible! The old system of showing the in-car approaching the finish with the time of the car they want to beat shown against their time was great! Why do we want to see computer models of the "action?" Are we so lacking in imagination that we have to be shown what it would look like if it were NASCAR style racing? ;)
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Agreed. The commentating was also directed at a 4th grade level. They have dumbed it down for a less knowledgeable audience. The female's comentary was especially bad. "There's some fans waiting at the end of the stage" Really?[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
You mean to tell me you haven't noticed the improvement from Ralf Shehee? This year's coverage has been *EXCELLENT* [i]easily[/i] the best WRC cover ever in the US, period. I am completely satisfied with the female commentator, she knows the sport and does a great play-by-play. Nicky too, he's a bit of a tool, but does a great job with on location color commentary.
The VS was a bit too much in a few places, but for the most part it was used very well, and they really only animated the finish line for a few stages. Love it or hate it, at least they are making an effort. Sorry for the rant but I for one always try to be appreciative that I get to see this stuff at all, in all likelihood NASCAR drivers playing poker would get better ratings for SPEED....
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*whew* with that out of the way, about the rally:
That opening stage in the Olympic stadium is the coolest thing I've ever seen, they need to do that for more events, 70,000 rally fans in one place at one time? Amazing!!
Hirvonen did a remarkable job, I guess I have a little crow to eat as well on that one. Very impressive! Too bad for the gearbox trouble he had.
Loeb, how good is this guy? Is there any stopping him? As much of a Solberg fan as I am, I cannot begrudge SL at all, because he is just so damn good at what he does. It will be very interesting to see how he gets on next year in a different car. My guess is he'll be just as good, and that we are looking at a legend in the making, but changing cars can be quite tricky in Rally, so we'll have to see....
More dazzling driving from Gigi again in this event, he is so exciting to watch. And it looks like the Mitsu is gradually finding some form as well.
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Agreed. The commentating was also directed at a 4th grade level. They have dumbed it down for a less knowledgeable audience. The female's comentary was especially bad. "There's some fans waiting at the end of the stage" Really?[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
You mean to tell me you haven't noticed the improvement from Ralf Shehee? This year's coverage has been *EXCELLENT* [i]easily[/i] the best WRC cover ever in the US, period. I am completely satisfied with the female commentator, she knows the sport and does a great play-by-play. Nicky too, he's a bit of a tool, but does a great job with on location color commentary.
The VS was a bit too much in a few places, but for the most part it was used very well, and they really only animated the finish line for a few stages. Love it or hate it, at least they are making an effort. Sorry for the rant but I for one always try to be appreciative that I get to see this stuff at all, in all likelihood NASCAR drivers playing poker would get better ratings for SPEED....
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*whew* with that out of the way, about the rally:
That opening stage in the Olympic stadium is the coolest thing I've ever seen, they need to do that for more events, 70,000 rally fans in one place at one time? Amazing!!
Hirvonen did a remarkable job, I guess I have a little crow to eat as well on that one. Very impressive! Too bad for the gearbox trouble he had.
Loeb, how good is this guy? Is there any stopping him? As much of a Solberg fan as I am, I cannot begrudge SL at all, because he is just so damn good at what he does. It will be very interesting to see how he gets on next year in a different car. My guess is he'll be just as good, and that we are looking at a legend in the making, but changing cars can be quite tricky in Rally, so we'll have to see....
More dazzling driving from Gigi again in this event, he is so exciting to watch. And it looks like the Mitsu is gradually finding some form as well.
| Hondo88 | 06-30-2005 10:01 AM |
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]
Sorry for the rant but I for one always try to be appreciative that I get to see this stuff at all, in all likelihood NASCAR drivers playing poker would get better ratings for SPEED....
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:lol: :lol: :lol: , Agree.
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]
Loeb, how good is this guy? Is there any stopping him? As much of a Solberg fan as I am, I cannot begrudge SL at all, because he is just so damn good at what he does.[/QUOTE]
It looks so easy for him. Watching him drive the stages, he looks like Sandra Bullack driving around the LA airport in Speed.
Sorry for the rant but I for one always try to be appreciative that I get to see this stuff at all, in all likelihood NASCAR drivers playing poker would get better ratings for SPEED....
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:lol: :lol: :lol: , Agree.
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]
Loeb, how good is this guy? Is there any stopping him? As much of a Solberg fan as I am, I cannot begrudge SL at all, because he is just so damn good at what he does.[/QUOTE]
It looks so easy for him. Watching him drive the stages, he looks like Sandra Bullack driving around the LA airport in Speed.
| meebs | 06-30-2005 11:14 AM |
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]:rolleyes:
Loeb, how good is this guy? Is there any stopping him? As much of a Solberg fan as I am, I cannot begrudge SL at all, because he is just so damn good at what he does. It will be very interesting to see how he gets on next year in a different car. My guess is he'll be just as good, and that we are looking at a legend in the making, but changing cars can be quite tricky in Rally, so we'll have to see....
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What team is Loeb going to next year? I always hit the news sites and don't remember anything about that. Why would you want to leave a team as good as Citroen?
Loeb, how good is this guy? Is there any stopping him? As much of a Solberg fan as I am, I cannot begrudge SL at all, because he is just so damn good at what he does. It will be very interesting to see how he gets on next year in a different car. My guess is he'll be just as good, and that we are looking at a legend in the making, but changing cars can be quite tricky in Rally, so we'll have to see....
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What team is Loeb going to next year? I always hit the news sites and don't remember anything about that. Why would you want to leave a team as good as Citroen?
| Mopho | 06-30-2005 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=meebs]What team is Loeb going to next year? I always hit the news sites and don't remember anything about that. Why would you want to leave a team as good as Citroen?[/QUOTE]
You've been asleep, eh?
Citroen is pulling out of rally next year along with Peugeot
Nothing has been announced about Seb as to where he is going, but I have heard he is talking with Ford, but that is just the rumor going around the WRC people
You've been asleep, eh?
Citroen is pulling out of rally next year along with Peugeot
Nothing has been announced about Seb as to where he is going, but I have heard he is talking with Ford, but that is just the rumor going around the WRC people
| Mopho | 06-30-2005 12:02 PM |
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]:rolleyes:
You mean to tell me you haven't noticed the improvement from Ralf Shehee? This year's coverage has been *EXCELLENT* [i]easily[/i] the best WRC cover ever in the US, period. I am completely satisfied with the female commentator, she knows the sport and does a great play-by-play. .
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No the best coverage was from 98-2001 when they had a week or so to edit the show, they were works of art, and IMO far better than the current shows
[QUOTE]Nicky too, he's a bit of a tool, but does a great job with on location color commentary[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: Do you know Nicky personally? I do, and he is definitely not a tool. He is actually a blast to hang out with
[IMG]http://www.morgansegal.com/images/grist.jpg[/IMG]
You mean to tell me you haven't noticed the improvement from Ralf Shehee? This year's coverage has been *EXCELLENT* [i]easily[/i] the best WRC cover ever in the US, period. I am completely satisfied with the female commentator, she knows the sport and does a great play-by-play. .
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No the best coverage was from 98-2001 when they had a week or so to edit the show, they were works of art, and IMO far better than the current shows
[QUOTE]Nicky too, he's a bit of a tool, but does a great job with on location color commentary[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: Do you know Nicky personally? I do, and he is definitely not a tool. He is actually a blast to hang out with
[IMG]http://www.morgansegal.com/images/grist.jpg[/IMG]
| Dr. WOT | 06-30-2005 12:04 PM |
*Edit, double post
| Dr. WOT | 06-30-2005 12:25 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]No the best coverage was from 98-2001 when they had a week or so to edit the show, they were works of art, and IMO far better than the current shows
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They were great, and that old announcer is still the best, however 90 min on sunday night > 30 min a week later.
[QUOTE=Mopho]
:rolleyes: Do you know Nicky personally? I do, and he is definitely not a tool. He is actually a blast to hang out with
[IMG]http://www.morgansegal.com/images/grist.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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No I don't know him personally, but I think that pic proves my point. :devil: I wouldn't be surprised if he is a great guy to hang with, I'm just saying he always struck me as having a very big head in his career as codriver. You don't know Michael Schumacher, but I bet you have an opinion on him, same deal here.
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They were great, and that old announcer is still the best, however 90 min on sunday night > 30 min a week later.
[QUOTE=Mopho]
:rolleyes: Do you know Nicky personally? I do, and he is definitely not a tool. He is actually a blast to hang out with
[IMG]http://www.morgansegal.com/images/grist.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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No I don't know him personally, but I think that pic proves my point. :devil: I wouldn't be surprised if he is a great guy to hang with, I'm just saying he always struck me as having a very big head in his career as codriver. You don't know Michael Schumacher, but I bet you have an opinion on him, same deal here.
| OnTheGas | 06-30-2005 12:28 PM |
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[QUOTE=johnfelstead]Prodrive have no involvement in BAR anymore.[/QUOTE]Yes, and I stand corrected!
Honda bought into BAR after last season, and tossed out Dave Richards' and the Prodrive management contract. Nick Fry's Prodrive history confused my memory of that...
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4025815.stm[/url]
Honda bought into BAR after last season, and tossed out Dave Richards' and the Prodrive management contract. Nick Fry's Prodrive history confused my memory of that...
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4025815.stm[/url]
| Mopho | 06-30-2005 12:32 PM |
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]They were great, and that old announcer is still the best, however 90 min on sunday night > 30 min a week later.
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Less is more. Get results from the internet anyways, so there is no surprise. When I watch the old shows (still have them on tape) I get way more excited about rally, the new shows are boring in comparison
[QUOTE]You don't know Michael Schumacher, but I bet you have an opinion on him, same deal here.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I don't have an opinion about Schumacher, I ignore F1 for the most part ;)
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Less is more. Get results from the internet anyways, so there is no surprise. When I watch the old shows (still have them on tape) I get way more excited about rally, the new shows are boring in comparison
[QUOTE]You don't know Michael Schumacher, but I bet you have an opinion on him, same deal here.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I don't have an opinion about Schumacher, I ignore F1 for the most part ;)
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