| Subie Gal | 03-27-2002 10:41 AM |
New Forums here in Motorsports?
help us pick them and we'll get them set up!!!
my suggestions? something like this:
Rally/WRC/Rallycross
[i]discussions regarding Performance rally, Amateur and Pro, WRC & Rallycross[/i]
Autox/Solo1/Solo2
[i]discussions for tarmac racing, club driving events, SCCA. etc[/i]
General Motorsports Questions
[i] everything else - discussions including general motorsports questions, driving techniques, parts advice[/i]
feel free to post your ideas!
let's choose something today!
and get it set up!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
my suggestions? something like this:
Rally/WRC/Rallycross
[i]discussions regarding Performance rally, Amateur and Pro, WRC & Rallycross[/i]
Autox/Solo1/Solo2
[i]discussions for tarmac racing, club driving events, SCCA. etc[/i]
General Motorsports Questions
[i] everything else - discussions including general motorsports questions, driving techniques, parts advice[/i]
feel free to post your ideas!
let's choose something today!
and get it set up!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
| Orion | 03-27-2002 10:51 AM |
excellent breakdown. only question would be drag racing. the FFI Forum seems to cover that often, so it may not be much of a concern here.
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 11:26 AM |
Rally forum
The plans are already in the works to have a Rally specific forum within the motorsports forum. It will be run by us guys at Vermont SportsCar.
Our rally technicians, logistics manager and marketing coordinator will all answer any questions about rallying in general, rallying with Imprezas, and we will give insight into what happens behind the scenes. Look for the forum to be up and running within a week or so......
Our rally technicians, logistics manager and marketing coordinator will all answer any questions about rallying in general, rallying with Imprezas, and we will give insight into what happens behind the scenes. Look for the forum to be up and running within a week or so......
| Mike Anson | 03-27-2002 11:27 AM |
I don't think Motorsports get enough traffic to warrant splitting it up. I also think there are many people who are interested in more than one form of motorsport and it would be a pain for them to have to check multiple forums.
Finally, I think it's good for people to see that other forms of racing exist. Keeps you from getting tunnel vision. :)
I say: Keep it the way it is.
Finally, I think it's good for people to see that other forms of racing exist. Keeps you from getting tunnel vision. :)
I say: Keep it the way it is.
| Subie Gal | 03-27-2002 11:30 AM |
well Vermont will have their own separate
sort of "ask the rally tech" forum...
this is not to take away from the general "rally" forums
we are discussion here...
anyone have a disagreement/issue w/the forums listed
in the first post on this thread?
anyone have a suggestion for another?
we need to keep it simple... dont want too many forums!
if there are no major issues, we can just split it into those 3
+ the Vermont forum when it comes on line
Jamie
sort of "ask the rally tech" forum...
this is not to take away from the general "rally" forums
we are discussion here...
anyone have a disagreement/issue w/the forums listed
in the first post on this thread?
anyone have a suggestion for another?
we need to keep it simple... dont want too many forums!
if there are no major issues, we can just split it into those 3
+ the Vermont forum when it comes on line
Jamie
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 11:40 AM |
rally forum
Nick and I have decided that it would be a forum within the Motorsports forum. We had planned that our forum would be the rally specific forum, where we could answer and comment on anything related to rallying. I think it would be more than just technical questions but rather also include general rally news, insight and commentary.
I think the Vermont SportsCar forum should be the rally forum, I dont think there is enough traffic here to warrant two rally specific forums within the motorsports forum.
I think the Vermont SportsCar forum should be the rally forum, I dont think there is enough traffic here to warrant two rally specific forums within the motorsports forum.
| TimStevens | 03-27-2002 11:41 AM |
Maybe an F1 forum, because F1 topics to get plenty of traffic here, and I have to steer-clear of the entire Motorsports forum if I've taped a race and haven't watched it yet :)
-tim
-tim
| ChrisW | 03-27-2002 11:57 AM |
I think it's an excellent idea. I am a little disapointed that the Vermont sportscar wants a completly independant forum outside of the motorsports area.
I think one of the ideas of breaking apart the motorsports would be to allow more traffic on topics that I want to read about. What I mean is, when ever I find a job again:rolleyes:, I want to seriously persue a path into a Rally car.
Right now it's too hard to find relivant information because it's spread out over several different forums, or because several existing forums are being abused (like the FFI forum and it's drag racing overfill)
I would only ask that we also add a Drag racing forum as well. If you want to know why look at the forced factory induction forum. I can't find any relivant info on tuning my WRX, but I do know that someone some individual ran a 12 something on naws... as if I really care.
I think one of the ideas of breaking apart the motorsports would be to allow more traffic on topics that I want to read about. What I mean is, when ever I find a job again:rolleyes:, I want to seriously persue a path into a Rally car.
Right now it's too hard to find relivant information because it's spread out over several different forums, or because several existing forums are being abused (like the FFI forum and it's drag racing overfill)
I would only ask that we also add a Drag racing forum as well. If you want to know why look at the forced factory induction forum. I can't find any relivant info on tuning my WRX, but I do know that someone some individual ran a 12 something on naws... as if I really care.
| Petrie | 03-27-2002 12:02 PM |
The fewer forums we have the easier it is to find or reach the right people. F1 events do get a lot of posts but where would they go in the original list that was proposed.
I vote for just one extra forum for all types of rally events and everything rally. Leave everything else in Motorsports General.
I vote for just one extra forum for all types of rally events and everything rally. Leave everything else in Motorsports General.
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 12:09 PM |
rally forum
this is exactly what we are setting up. A rally forum 'within' the motorsport forum. Talk about anthying related to rallying, and if you have specific questions there will be experts at Vermont SportsCar to answer and comment on anything you want.
| GarySheehan | 03-27-2002 12:26 PM |
I think the forum is too small to break up also. But, if it were going to be broken up I think that including road racing in the autocross section in innapropriate. Track events and road racing are significantly different from autocross events and should have their own category. They each require different car preparation and different driver mentality. Here's my vote for breakout:
Drag (straight line speed) - Participating in club and pro level drag racing events, NO street racing
Autocross (driver againsts the clock, short) - Participating Solo1, Solo2, Rallycross type events
Rally (driver against the clock, multiple stages) - Participating or spectating in all forms of club and pro level rally events
Track (wheel to wheel, closed course) - Participating or spectating in all forms of club and pro level wheel-to-wheel racing events, professional driver schools, sanctioned club driver schools, track events, lapping days, etc.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Drag (straight line speed) - Participating in club and pro level drag racing events, NO street racing
Autocross (driver againsts the clock, short) - Participating Solo1, Solo2, Rallycross type events
Rally (driver against the clock, multiple stages) - Participating or spectating in all forms of club and pro level rally events
Track (wheel to wheel, closed course) - Participating or spectating in all forms of club and pro level wheel-to-wheel racing events, professional driver schools, sanctioned club driver schools, track events, lapping days, etc.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| johnfelstead | 03-27-2002 12:26 PM |
Dont do it!!!!!!!!
Looks like i am redundant then. :lol:
Jamie, i absolutely [b]HATE[/b] forums that are split up and diversified because i can't be bothered to plow through multiple forums just to see if there is anything worthwhile even opening.
I used to post a lot in General until that was split in 3, i dont even bother looking there now because it takes too long with all the other stuff i am upto.
Please, lets not split this forum up, it would ruin what we have, which is a fantastic cross section of sports that people are maybe learning about just because we do have the diversity.
If there were to be one specific forum added then i would say make it the AutoX one because that seems to have it's own niche crowd who ask lots of specific questions re regulations etc. Hence the sticky AutoX thread (that just went oops ;) )
The rest should stay as they are, if we get a load of forums like Rally, F1, Autocross, General Motorsport i just wont bother anymore as it will do my head in. There isnt enough traffic in this place to warrant a split like that.
I-Club is not a predominantly motorsport BBS, it shouldnt try and compete in the same way either IMHO. We are here to share diverse ideas. If we go down the road of getting specific motorsport forums then the general feel of a club with characters who share ideas will disapear. Lets not try and emulate specialstage and all the miriads of rally or race BBS's out there, lets keep this place a family afair, which is how i see I-Club Motorsport Forum and why i enjoy contributing to it.
I doubt the idea of having to open and moderate another bunch of forums has much apeal to you either Jamie? This BBS has way to many forums as it is IMHO, being a moderator of so many forums is a huge amount of work as just opening each one up adds to the time involved.
Right now the motorsport forum is the best on this BBS IMHO, please dont change it with multiple subforums, i would be absolutely gutted. :(
Jamie, i absolutely [b]HATE[/b] forums that are split up and diversified because i can't be bothered to plow through multiple forums just to see if there is anything worthwhile even opening.
I used to post a lot in General until that was split in 3, i dont even bother looking there now because it takes too long with all the other stuff i am upto.
Please, lets not split this forum up, it would ruin what we have, which is a fantastic cross section of sports that people are maybe learning about just because we do have the diversity.
If there were to be one specific forum added then i would say make it the AutoX one because that seems to have it's own niche crowd who ask lots of specific questions re regulations etc. Hence the sticky AutoX thread (that just went oops ;) )
The rest should stay as they are, if we get a load of forums like Rally, F1, Autocross, General Motorsport i just wont bother anymore as it will do my head in. There isnt enough traffic in this place to warrant a split like that.
I-Club is not a predominantly motorsport BBS, it shouldnt try and compete in the same way either IMHO. We are here to share diverse ideas. If we go down the road of getting specific motorsport forums then the general feel of a club with characters who share ideas will disapear. Lets not try and emulate specialstage and all the miriads of rally or race BBS's out there, lets keep this place a family afair, which is how i see I-Club Motorsport Forum and why i enjoy contributing to it.
I doubt the idea of having to open and moderate another bunch of forums has much apeal to you either Jamie? This BBS has way to many forums as it is IMHO, being a moderator of so many forums is a huge amount of work as just opening each one up adds to the time involved.
Right now the motorsport forum is the best on this BBS IMHO, please dont change it with multiple subforums, i would be absolutely gutted. :(
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 12:35 PM |
I understand what your saying... However I hate forums that have a huge mix of totally unrelated posts and information. If I want to just learn about rallying then there should be a forum for rallying. I think most people have the time to make an extra click here and there in order to get more specific and more valuable information.
| johnfelstead | 03-27-2002 12:55 PM |
I dont agree at all on that. There are BBS already out there for people who want just rally information such as specialstage.
One extra click is a pain in the ass when you have people who are active in all forms of motorsports or show a general interest in them.
I cuurently compete or am involved in circuit racing, WRC, National Rallying, Sprinting and Hillclimbing, building and running race cars, rally cars, competition engines. Basically every form you can think of except drag racing. If we now had a big splitup i simply will lose interest in ploughing through everything.
Maybe i am being selfish and am alone in these thoughts, but this BBS is not a Motorsport Oriented BBS, it's a Subaru enthusiasts BBS with members interested in motorsports, there is a [b]HUGE[/b] diference in phylosophy there and right now it works really well as it is with maybe the exception of late of all the AutoX queries which Jamie did a great job of trying to consolidate.
I dont know how long you have been reading this Forum cyRally? but this Forum has a great comunity spirit going, it most definately is not aimed at competing with the likes of specialstage.
Dont change this forum, it will die a death. :(
One extra click is a pain in the ass when you have people who are active in all forms of motorsports or show a general interest in them.
I cuurently compete or am involved in circuit racing, WRC, National Rallying, Sprinting and Hillclimbing, building and running race cars, rally cars, competition engines. Basically every form you can think of except drag racing. If we now had a big splitup i simply will lose interest in ploughing through everything.
Maybe i am being selfish and am alone in these thoughts, but this BBS is not a Motorsport Oriented BBS, it's a Subaru enthusiasts BBS with members interested in motorsports, there is a [b]HUGE[/b] diference in phylosophy there and right now it works really well as it is with maybe the exception of late of all the AutoX queries which Jamie did a great job of trying to consolidate.
I dont know how long you have been reading this Forum cyRally? but this Forum has a great comunity spirit going, it most definately is not aimed at competing with the likes of specialstage.
Dont change this forum, it will die a death. :(
| GarySheehan | 03-27-2002 12:58 PM |
The search engine on this site is fairly powerful. If you want to look at specific types of posts, like rally, just do a search on rally in the Motorsports Forum. Boom, a personalized bulletin board custom tailored for your purposes.
I vote we don't break up the motorsports forum.
Gary
I vote we don't break up the motorsports forum.
Gary
| johnfelstead | 03-27-2002 01:01 PM |
You got a stutter Gary? :lol:;)
edit: bugger, you changed it. :lol::D
Agree with how you changed it though!:cool:
edit: bugger, you changed it. :lol::D
Agree with how you changed it though!:cool:
| GarySheehan | 03-27-2002 01:03 PM |
N-nn-nn-n-n-n-o!
| TheWRX | 03-27-2002 01:23 PM |
I'm also against a splitup. My post started this whole discussion, but it was really just directed at the AutoX sticky that had gone bad. Splitting forums makes sense if there's too much volume. I don't think that is the case here. As long as people use meaningful subject lines, I have no problem following this forum and finding what I'm interested in. And I do appreciate the diversity, I often click on a thread outside of my primary field of interest if the title sounds promising, especially when I see that people like John Felstead and Gary Sheehan have posted to it. I certainly wouldn't want to miss their contributions.
About the issue of too many AutoX posts: Somebody else made the excellent point about the season getting started in the last few weeks in most regions. That might take care of itself, it's probably just temporary.
About the issue of too many AutoX posts: Somebody else made the excellent point about the season getting started in the last few weeks in most regions. That might take care of itself, it's probably just temporary.
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 01:23 PM |
so do you think that an 'ask the experts' forum, where the rally technicians and team managers from Vermont SportsCar can answer and comment on anyones questions and comments should be seperate from the motorsports forum?
The point is that the guys here at Vermont SportsCar want to communicate and answer questions but they dont have time to sift through every forum for someone's rally related question. So therefore Nick and I came up with the idea of a specific forum that is focused on rally related questions that the Vermont SportsCar team can answer and comment on.
I think a forum like that would fit nicely into the motorsports forum.
The point is that the guys here at Vermont SportsCar want to communicate and answer questions but they dont have time to sift through every forum for someone's rally related question. So therefore Nick and I came up with the idea of a specific forum that is focused on rally related questions that the Vermont SportsCar team can answer and comment on.
I think a forum like that would fit nicely into the motorsports forum.
| Mike Anson | 03-27-2002 01:30 PM |
Why couldn't you answer the questions within a single Motorsports Forum? If people want answers to technical rally questions, they should ask them here, and if they don't the mods will move the threads here.
I, for one, would definitely appreciate your input on rally matters, but I really don't think it needs a seperate forum.
I, for one, would definitely appreciate your input on rally matters, but I really don't think it needs a seperate forum.
| Jon Bogert | 03-27-2002 01:32 PM |
I vote no split
The traffic doesn't warrant it.
And I also vote no special treatment for VT SportsCar. There are [i]many[/i] rally/motorsports prep shops that read and post here. Nothing against Lance and the crew, but why should they get their own forum in the face of AV Sport, TAD, Cascade and all the others? There are lots of Subaru teams out there--you shouldn't play favorites.
Further, will they be moderating the discussion in a rally forum? I can think of about 1000 reasons why an organization that is involved up to its eyeballs with one side in the contentious ProRally debate should not have the power to moderate discussions about those topics.
And I also vote no special treatment for VT SportsCar. There are [i]many[/i] rally/motorsports prep shops that read and post here. Nothing against Lance and the crew, but why should they get their own forum in the face of AV Sport, TAD, Cascade and all the others? There are lots of Subaru teams out there--you shouldn't play favorites.
Further, will they be moderating the discussion in a rally forum? I can think of about 1000 reasons why an organization that is involved up to its eyeballs with one side in the contentious ProRally debate should not have the power to moderate discussions about those topics.
| johnfelstead | 03-27-2002 01:37 PM |
edited after rethinking: We dont need an "ask the experts" forum, motorsport forum is good enough as it is. We do get "experts" posting in here all the time, people like Dave Clarke, many of the subaru competitors and fellow car prep companies, i know a little bit myself too.
I really do welcome extra input and information from active people but we dont need you to have your own place to make yourselves heard. Just join in with what we have already.
I still dont see whats so hard about your guys looking through this forum as it is. It's very obvious what subjects are rally related.
they only usually span 2 pages over 24hours anyway. :confused:
I really do welcome extra input and information from active people but we dont need you to have your own place to make yourselves heard. Just join in with what we have already.
I still dont see whats so hard about your guys looking through this forum as it is. It's very obvious what subjects are rally related.
they only usually span 2 pages over 24hours anyway. :confused:
| callawayv | 03-27-2002 01:37 PM |
Re: Dont do it!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]Looks like i am redundant then. :lol:
Jamie, i absolutely [b]HATE[/b] forums that are split up and diversified because i can't be bothered to plow through multiple forums just to see if there is anything worthwhile even opening.
Right now the motorsport forum is the best on this BBS IMHO, please dont change it with multiple subforums, i would be absolutely gutted. :( [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree, I like going into a forum and discussing diverse versions and ideas of racing.
;)
[B]Looks like i am redundant then. :lol:
Jamie, i absolutely [b]HATE[/b] forums that are split up and diversified because i can't be bothered to plow through multiple forums just to see if there is anything worthwhile even opening.
Right now the motorsport forum is the best on this BBS IMHO, please dont change it with multiple subforums, i would be absolutely gutted. :( [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree, I like going into a forum and discussing diverse versions and ideas of racing.
;)
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 01:37 PM |
We would love other prep shops to get involved. The point is that we are willing to devote time to this. If those other prep shops want to get involved then fine. Its an "ask the experts" forum..and NOT a VTcar forum. But for now we were just trying to figure out a way to best answer questions and get people talking about rallying without having our very busy crew sift through unrelated posts.
| KC | 03-27-2002 02:31 PM |
Time for me to do what I do best: waffle.
It would have it's up and down sides to it if you split it up... yeah, it's one more forum to browse, but really it's just one more *click* to view the threads that if not in a separate forum, would all be lumped in one thread. Now what if your topic wasn't on the 1st page? Ya think many people go to the 2nd page or press search? That's also 'one more click'. What's the difference?
Splitting up would make it easier for others to go to the areas that specifically intrest them. Face it, not everyones interested in Auto-x, F1, rallying. Really, I mean it. :D
So splitting them up, the users can just go where it intrests them. It would help quite a bit I do believe.
Now about the 'Ask the experts' forum... ummmm no, please don't. Why? Everyone in their own mind is considered an expert, including myself. Just asking a question on this forum is sometimes bad enough... you have to be prepared for wrong and right answers (I'm wrong about 50% of the time, but in my mind, I'm perfect. :) )
If only one person/company was allowed to answer the question(s), then it would become rather lopsided. What if the expert was wrong, or someone came on and argued a valid point that the 'experts' beleive they're right in? Flame fest and it would hurt the credibility of the 'experts' and/or their company, no matter how right they thought they were, or are.
That would be a hugely drastic wrong move.
I say yeah, split 'em up. It'll jsut make it easer for those of us who are interested in just one or two things.... (and it'll keep the pricks from posting in the main forum about the results of the rally that I haven't seen yet... this way, all I have to do is avoid the Rally forum until I've seen the rally that I recorded. :D
My .02 (which will be taxed on a 40% bracket leaving you with just over 1 cent).
--kC
It would have it's up and down sides to it if you split it up... yeah, it's one more forum to browse, but really it's just one more *click* to view the threads that if not in a separate forum, would all be lumped in one thread. Now what if your topic wasn't on the 1st page? Ya think many people go to the 2nd page or press search? That's also 'one more click'. What's the difference?
Splitting up would make it easier for others to go to the areas that specifically intrest them. Face it, not everyones interested in Auto-x, F1, rallying. Really, I mean it. :D
So splitting them up, the users can just go where it intrests them. It would help quite a bit I do believe.
Now about the 'Ask the experts' forum... ummmm no, please don't. Why? Everyone in their own mind is considered an expert, including myself. Just asking a question on this forum is sometimes bad enough... you have to be prepared for wrong and right answers (I'm wrong about 50% of the time, but in my mind, I'm perfect. :) )
If only one person/company was allowed to answer the question(s), then it would become rather lopsided. What if the expert was wrong, or someone came on and argued a valid point that the 'experts' beleive they're right in? Flame fest and it would hurt the credibility of the 'experts' and/or their company, no matter how right they thought they were, or are.
That would be a hugely drastic wrong move.
I say yeah, split 'em up. It'll jsut make it easer for those of us who are interested in just one or two things.... (and it'll keep the pricks from posting in the main forum about the results of the rally that I haven't seen yet... this way, all I have to do is avoid the Rally forum until I've seen the rally that I recorded. :D
My .02 (which will be taxed on a 40% bracket leaving you with just over 1 cent).
--kC
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 02:46 PM |
just another comment:
The idea is too stimulate discussion about rallying. Having an 'ask the experts' forum would insure that if you ask a question it will get answered by someone who really does know what he/she is talking about. Those who ask the questions will know what experts are participating. Right now there are alot of fans that are new to Subaru and to the sport of rallying. Offering a way for these people, along with more experienced people to communicate with these experts in the rally community is vital to the growth and popularity of our sport.
Its great that so many of you have strong feelings about how this forum should be presented. We arent out to sell anything or make money on anything. We just love rallying and wish more people would talk about it, ask questions about it and generally be involved in it. Nick, who lets remember runs this entire lovely place, has told me that he has wanted an 'ask the experts' forum for a while now, and couldnt get anyone from SOA to commit. However, I told him we would be willing to devote time to this, and we feel that we are qualified be called 'experts, since we helped run SOA's team with Prodrive last year. So in a sense we are the next best thing to having the Subaru Rally Team USA involved with the forum.
The problem is that we dont have all day to sift through posts. Our guys are in the shop all day, so having a forum where they can quickly and easily read and answer questions is vital to the success of this whole idea.
The idea is too stimulate discussion about rallying. Having an 'ask the experts' forum would insure that if you ask a question it will get answered by someone who really does know what he/she is talking about. Those who ask the questions will know what experts are participating. Right now there are alot of fans that are new to Subaru and to the sport of rallying. Offering a way for these people, along with more experienced people to communicate with these experts in the rally community is vital to the growth and popularity of our sport.
Its great that so many of you have strong feelings about how this forum should be presented. We arent out to sell anything or make money on anything. We just love rallying and wish more people would talk about it, ask questions about it and generally be involved in it. Nick, who lets remember runs this entire lovely place, has told me that he has wanted an 'ask the experts' forum for a while now, and couldnt get anyone from SOA to commit. However, I told him we would be willing to devote time to this, and we feel that we are qualified be called 'experts, since we helped run SOA's team with Prodrive last year. So in a sense we are the next best thing to having the Subaru Rally Team USA involved with the forum.
The problem is that we dont have all day to sift through posts. Our guys are in the shop all day, so having a forum where they can quickly and easily read and answer questions is vital to the success of this whole idea.
| TimStevens | 03-27-2002 02:55 PM |
I think an "ask the experts" forum is a good idea as well, as while one gets to know the major players in the forums around here eventually, one is still never quite sure if the guy telling someone how to install their roll cage knows what the heck they're talking about...
-tim
-tim
| johnfelstead | 03-27-2002 03:43 PM |
So does that mean that only your guys can answer questions in the "experts" forum?
If so then it will destroy any discusions before they start.
If that isnt the case then you still have the same situation where people will post conflicting information.
I dont see your logic? You may be the experts but i may know more about a subject than you do, it happens. ;) Also there are often 10 solutions to a problem, all valid and all work. We would only see one view rather than the 10 posibles. Now if i am skint and need the cheap option yet you are so involved with Prodrive you have never even heard of the cheap option i know works how can i tell people that? start another thread somewhere else, thats chaos, how is that a good thing for people here.
Sorry, i dont see how you having an experts forum helps in this case. The only benefit i see for this "experts" dedicated forum is for your guys to find it easier to spot a rally related post. That is not a chore at the moment! There is of course the marketing aspect of having your own forum in your name and I-Club pronouncing your comapny as the "experts" in your particular field.
To me this is wrong, it's a kick in the teath to the other teams out there who have contributed to this board for years. I personally have no comercial interests whatsoever but if i were a vendor i would be mighty unimpressed by that.
Dont get me wrong, i welcome your input masively, the more the merier but i do not agree with setting up something in here that makes you look superior to other valuable contributors, that just is not right.
If this is a comercial venture and you have a deal with I-Club then thats fair enough, you are entitled, but you need to be upfront about that to have any credibility.
If so then it will destroy any discusions before they start.
If that isnt the case then you still have the same situation where people will post conflicting information.
I dont see your logic? You may be the experts but i may know more about a subject than you do, it happens. ;) Also there are often 10 solutions to a problem, all valid and all work. We would only see one view rather than the 10 posibles. Now if i am skint and need the cheap option yet you are so involved with Prodrive you have never even heard of the cheap option i know works how can i tell people that? start another thread somewhere else, thats chaos, how is that a good thing for people here.
Sorry, i dont see how you having an experts forum helps in this case. The only benefit i see for this "experts" dedicated forum is for your guys to find it easier to spot a rally related post. That is not a chore at the moment! There is of course the marketing aspect of having your own forum in your name and I-Club pronouncing your comapny as the "experts" in your particular field.
To me this is wrong, it's a kick in the teath to the other teams out there who have contributed to this board for years. I personally have no comercial interests whatsoever but if i were a vendor i would be mighty unimpressed by that.
Dont get me wrong, i welcome your input masively, the more the merier but i do not agree with setting up something in here that makes you look superior to other valuable contributors, that just is not right.
If this is a comercial venture and you have a deal with I-Club then thats fair enough, you are entitled, but you need to be upfront about that to have any credibility.
| cyRally | 03-27-2002 04:08 PM |
ok, i guess im not being clear. Its not just for VT Car. If you would like to be a part of it then fine, email Nick and tell him. This is NOT an ego contest. We know alot about rallying and wish to spread that knowledge to the common fan, yet we dont have time to surf the entire message board, you may have the time but we dont.
But you say that their aren't alot of rally related messages? Why do you think that is? Dont you think it will spur discussion if people realize that they can communicate with a top level rally team? This is something we want to do with the little spare time we have, and we are the only ones that have committed to actually answering questions....if anyone else that wants to come on board and act as a 'known expert' then please speak up, but make sure that you are as commtted to it as we are. And all it takes to create this communication is a seperate forum? Seems pretty strightforward and logical to me.
But you say that their aren't alot of rally related messages? Why do you think that is? Dont you think it will spur discussion if people realize that they can communicate with a top level rally team? This is something we want to do with the little spare time we have, and we are the only ones that have committed to actually answering questions....if anyone else that wants to come on board and act as a 'known expert' then please speak up, but make sure that you are as commtted to it as we are. And all it takes to create this communication is a seperate forum? Seems pretty strightforward and logical to me.
| jaybird | 03-27-2002 04:51 PM |
I think it is really cool that the guys VT Sportscar are willing to do this and their knowledge will spur more interest for sure. However I'm with the consensous that splitting up the forums is a bad idea. I like the variety of the way things are in this forum now. I agree I wouldn't want to inhibit any other experts from posting here. We have some really knowledgeable people on here. I think you guys would actually get more exposure by keeping things the way they are. One stop shopping right? Couldn't they create some type of expert title for people like VT SportsCar and give them some kind of banner or something. If somebody wanted to direct a question to them (or any other expert for that matter) they could just address it to them in the title line (kinda like what allready happens now). Another way to denote rally topics is with the little jumping WRC message icon up top. If a person wanted to see if there was any new rally topics they should be able to just cruise the motorsports forum and look for the little icon without reading anything. If people post responsibly it shouldn't be a problem. Why not just let them be on here regularly and see what happens. If rally topics start to inundate the motorsports forum and the amount of rally topics just explodes then give it a unique forum.
However I don't want to mis any opportunities here or impeed progress, so Cuál será será.
However I don't want to mis any opportunities here or impeed progress, so Cuál será será.
| OnTheGas | 03-27-2002 05:53 PM |
Don't Break Up Motorsports...
There is not enough traffic to break up this fine forum... And the diversity of motorsports spoken here is a positive thing, overall.
I'm excited about vt sportscar stepping up to provide this fine forum with some expert insights...
Over in the "Suspensions, Brakes, Rims & Tires" forum, we have Luke from TireRack who monitors the forum and provides some expert input... I'm thinking vt sportscar would be able to well here in this forum by just monitoring it and providing their insights to it. Here is a comparison of forum volumes:[CODE]Forums: Motorsports Suspension, Tires, etc.
Threads: 2,288 8,690
Posts: 24,421 70,410[/CODE]
I'm excited about vt sportscar stepping up to provide this fine forum with some expert insights...
Over in the "Suspensions, Brakes, Rims & Tires" forum, we have Luke from TireRack who monitors the forum and provides some expert input... I'm thinking vt sportscar would be able to well here in this forum by just monitoring it and providing their insights to it. Here is a comparison of forum volumes:[CODE]Forums: Motorsports Suspension, Tires, etc.
Threads: 2,288 8,690
Posts: 24,421 70,410[/CODE]
| Subie Gal | 03-27-2002 06:30 PM |
ok!!!
i am in... for not splitting up the forums then!!!
I'll tell Nick the majority says NO! :)
*************************
autox threads -
so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control?
(this is what prompted the discussions in the first place)
just let them ride?
someone wish to make an FAQ on this?
************************
as for VT car and their forum...
i was told that they would not be the only ones who could answer. anyone can and i am sure, will!, reply....
nice of them to offer, but i dont think the majority of the motorsports clan wants another forum... ???
not sure how this will go...
and how it will be received if indeed it does come to fruition....
personally? i think we have enough experts on this board in their respective trades/racing events that we dont need an experts forum.
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
i am in... for not splitting up the forums then!!!
I'll tell Nick the majority says NO! :)
*************************
autox threads -
so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control?
(this is what prompted the discussions in the first place)
just let them ride?
someone wish to make an FAQ on this?
************************
as for VT car and their forum...
i was told that they would not be the only ones who could answer. anyone can and i am sure, will!, reply....
nice of them to offer, but i dont think the majority of the motorsports clan wants another forum... ???
not sure how this will go...
and how it will be received if indeed it does come to fruition....
personally? i think we have enough experts on this board in their respective trades/racing events that we dont need an experts forum.
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
| Mike Anson | 03-27-2002 07:09 PM |
Thanks for listening to us! I'm impressed that the whole debate was calm and reasoned and kudos especially to VT Sportscar for not getting defensive about this. Lesser people may not have acted so professionally.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]
autox threads -
so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control? [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, if you didn't keep deleting them....
<runs away> :lol:
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]
autox threads -
so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control? [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, if you didn't keep deleting them....
<runs away> :lol:
| johnfelstead | 03-27-2002 07:11 PM |
cyRally, judging by the messages you are posting it seems you havent spent time in these forums and got to know us or understand what this place is really like on a daily basis.
You dont have to surf the entire BBS, no one would expect you to either. You just have to look in this forum, the Motorsport Forum to find the questions. Everyone on this BBS knows that this is the place to come to for any Rally, Race, AutoX, F1 or whatever subject to be discussed, you wont have to go looking in Forced induction to answer a question on Anti-Lag used on a WRC car for example, you'll find that kind of thing covered here. If someone does post a motorsport related subject elsewhere they get directed here by the BBS moderators. Having a dedicated "experts" forum wont improve on that.
We have some very knowledgable and very active motorsport people here, from guys running leading Race Car programmes like Gary Sheehan, through SCCA Tech inspectors and Rally car builders like Dave Clarke, to guys who have competed in rallying for many years or are very well respected preparation companies such as Cascade. Subie Gal who moderates this forum is the USA's best female driver prospect IMHO, we have guys like Randy Zimmer who competes in Pro-Rally etc. etc. Myself, i have competed in rallying for 19 years. My rally team has won british national rally championships and run up the front in the most competitive national rally championship in the world. I wont go into the rest as i'll bore everyone.
Sure we get plenty of people posting information that isnt entirely acurate, but thats actually a good thing because it spurs on the discusions, sometimes into a complete tangent that is more interesting than would ever be the case if the answer was right first time. It doesnt take much time for the "experts" to steer people in the right direction, everyone seems to learn from this too.
I dont want to have to mail Nick and ask to be included amongst a panel of experts, the idea of that is not apealing. I dont want people taking what i say as gospel and not questioning it because that is going to limit how the conversations grow. This forum is about fun and information. It's not meant to be sterile.
I cant think of anything better than having even more active, knowledgable people contributing such as yourself. If it means some form of hirarchy and status being introduced then i dont want any part of that though, It's not needed.
On the AutoX issue Jamie, i think quite a few made valid points on the fact that maybe this is a start of season thing. Maybe someone could write an FAQ for this to be posted as a sticky and then just do your moderating thing and point people that way? letting subjects not covered in the FAQ to ride as normal posts? I cant think of an easier way to do that except for maybe having an AutoX forum temporarily until an FAQ is written? That could then become part of the boards archive? Just an idea.
You dont have to surf the entire BBS, no one would expect you to either. You just have to look in this forum, the Motorsport Forum to find the questions. Everyone on this BBS knows that this is the place to come to for any Rally, Race, AutoX, F1 or whatever subject to be discussed, you wont have to go looking in Forced induction to answer a question on Anti-Lag used on a WRC car for example, you'll find that kind of thing covered here. If someone does post a motorsport related subject elsewhere they get directed here by the BBS moderators. Having a dedicated "experts" forum wont improve on that.
We have some very knowledgable and very active motorsport people here, from guys running leading Race Car programmes like Gary Sheehan, through SCCA Tech inspectors and Rally car builders like Dave Clarke, to guys who have competed in rallying for many years or are very well respected preparation companies such as Cascade. Subie Gal who moderates this forum is the USA's best female driver prospect IMHO, we have guys like Randy Zimmer who competes in Pro-Rally etc. etc. Myself, i have competed in rallying for 19 years. My rally team has won british national rally championships and run up the front in the most competitive national rally championship in the world. I wont go into the rest as i'll bore everyone.
Sure we get plenty of people posting information that isnt entirely acurate, but thats actually a good thing because it spurs on the discusions, sometimes into a complete tangent that is more interesting than would ever be the case if the answer was right first time. It doesnt take much time for the "experts" to steer people in the right direction, everyone seems to learn from this too.
I dont want to have to mail Nick and ask to be included amongst a panel of experts, the idea of that is not apealing. I dont want people taking what i say as gospel and not questioning it because that is going to limit how the conversations grow. This forum is about fun and information. It's not meant to be sterile.
I cant think of anything better than having even more active, knowledgable people contributing such as yourself. If it means some form of hirarchy and status being introduced then i dont want any part of that though, It's not needed.
On the AutoX issue Jamie, i think quite a few made valid points on the fact that maybe this is a start of season thing. Maybe someone could write an FAQ for this to be posted as a sticky and then just do your moderating thing and point people that way? letting subjects not covered in the FAQ to ride as normal posts? I cant think of an easier way to do that except for maybe having an AutoX forum temporarily until an FAQ is written? That could then become part of the boards archive? Just an idea.
| rosss | 03-28-2002 01:48 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control?
[/QUOTE]
I think the sticky thread thing was working pretty well. I say just make a new one.
As to the FAQ, I think the sticky was serving that purpose fairly well. Our site offers a pretty decent (IMHO) FAQ for DS/GS/STS/STX autox rules interpretation and subie setup -- perhaps there are others (or will be others) for SP/SM/P/M classes.
I don't have a strong opinion about the breaking up of the forum, or the "experts" thing -- my only observation would be that this is one of (if not the only) i-club forums I frequent anymore. If it wasn't working as it is, that probably wouldn't be the case. From that standpoint perhaps "if it aint broke, don't fix it" is the best position right now.
Sean
[url]www.subrew.com[/url]
so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control?
[/QUOTE]
I think the sticky thread thing was working pretty well. I say just make a new one.
As to the FAQ, I think the sticky was serving that purpose fairly well. Our site offers a pretty decent (IMHO) FAQ for DS/GS/STS/STX autox rules interpretation and subie setup -- perhaps there are others (or will be others) for SP/SM/P/M classes.
I don't have a strong opinion about the breaking up of the forum, or the "experts" thing -- my only observation would be that this is one of (if not the only) i-club forums I frequent anymore. If it wasn't working as it is, that probably wouldn't be the case. From that standpoint perhaps "if it aint broke, don't fix it" is the best position right now.
Sean
[url]www.subrew.com[/url]
| Bonzo | 03-28-2002 08:50 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mike Anson [/i]
[B]I don't think Motorsports get enough traffic to warrant splitting it up. I also think there are many people who are interested in more than one form of motorsport and it would be a pain for them to have to check multiple forums.
Finally, I think it's good for people to see that other forms of racing exist. Keeps you from getting tunnel vision. :)
I say: Keep it the way it is. [/B][/QUOTE]
I echo Mr. Anson's thoughts. Not enough traffic.
I like to see all what's going on with one click.
Keep it simple.
Dave
[B]I don't think Motorsports get enough traffic to warrant splitting it up. I also think there are many people who are interested in more than one form of motorsport and it would be a pain for them to have to check multiple forums.
Finally, I think it's good for people to see that other forms of racing exist. Keeps you from getting tunnel vision. :)
I say: Keep it the way it is. [/B][/QUOTE]
I echo Mr. Anson's thoughts. Not enough traffic.
I like to see all what's going on with one click.
Keep it simple.
Dave
| briank | 03-28-2002 09:47 AM |
I vote NO SPLIT!
I really enjoy this forum the way it is. There aren't enough posts to warrant splitting it. Everything is related more so than many of the other forums.
So I vote no split! Rally, F1, drag, Auto-X, Bikes they are all fun to read here!
-BrianK
So I vote no split! Rally, F1, drag, Auto-X, Bikes they are all fun to read here!
-BrianK
| cyRally | 03-28-2002 09:57 AM |
yes i totally understand your viewpoints....Nick and I were just trying to figure out a way that our crew could get involved without taking them away from the shop for too long.
My opinion is that people should know who is who, and know people's qualifications. Its not about giving advice but rather about communicating. No one is out to give conflicting advice, or to make money by giving biased comments. We simply want to spur commentary, and offer a way for I-Club users to have an inside look at the US ProRallying scene.
The guys at Vermont SportsCar want to get involved but dont have time to go on the BBS on a daily basis and have everyone get to know them. So maybe I'll just post some info on the guys who are willing to give commenatary and anyone who wants to direct questions to us can just put it in the subject line. How does that sound? And if it doesn't sound good how do we do it?
My opinion is that people should know who is who, and know people's qualifications. Its not about giving advice but rather about communicating. No one is out to give conflicting advice, or to make money by giving biased comments. We simply want to spur commentary, and offer a way for I-Club users to have an inside look at the US ProRallying scene.
The guys at Vermont SportsCar want to get involved but dont have time to go on the BBS on a daily basis and have everyone get to know them. So maybe I'll just post some info on the guys who are willing to give commenatary and anyone who wants to direct questions to us can just put it in the subject line. How does that sound? And if it doesn't sound good how do we do it?
| johnfelstead | 03-28-2002 02:00 PM |
I think the compromise that Jamie has posted in the sticky thread is a good one, that way people replying know the credentials to a certain extent.
I am a bit uncomfortable with having titles for people personally because that may lead to people being intimidated because they might have a point that is actually correct but because it contradicts an "experts" opinion they are afraid to make a fool of themselves. I hope that doesnt happen and people still question if the answers are not clear TO THEM or indeed they do know more than the "expert".
I dont think that putting thread titles with "attn expert x-y-z" is apropriate at all. It's like saying the rest of the posts dont want an expert answer, an idiots version of what is happening is what i want. Everyone wants the opinions of the experts to their requests.
Once your guys have been in this forum for a very short time they will very quickly be able to see how the thread titles relate to the sports concerned. You also find that a lot of the most indepth discusions have come about in threads that the title means nothing to the enventual content. Thats what i am talking about with regards to this place not becoming sterile.
As soon as you start to spend some time in this forum you will see how it works, it isnt a big task to find what you want, who knows, your guys might end up being sucked into our F1 chilli dog v's DC the chocker threads and start having a good laugh with us, i hope so. Maybe thats what you are afraid of happening. :D
I am a bit uncomfortable with having titles for people personally because that may lead to people being intimidated because they might have a point that is actually correct but because it contradicts an "experts" opinion they are afraid to make a fool of themselves. I hope that doesnt happen and people still question if the answers are not clear TO THEM or indeed they do know more than the "expert".
I dont think that putting thread titles with "attn expert x-y-z" is apropriate at all. It's like saying the rest of the posts dont want an expert answer, an idiots version of what is happening is what i want. Everyone wants the opinions of the experts to their requests.
Once your guys have been in this forum for a very short time they will very quickly be able to see how the thread titles relate to the sports concerned. You also find that a lot of the most indepth discusions have come about in threads that the title means nothing to the enventual content. Thats what i am talking about with regards to this place not becoming sterile.
As soon as you start to spend some time in this forum you will see how it works, it isnt a big task to find what you want, who knows, your guys might end up being sucked into our F1 chilli dog v's DC the chocker threads and start having a good laugh with us, i hope so. Maybe thats what you are afraid of happening. :D
| cyRally | 03-28-2002 02:16 PM |
haha,
well you say that sometimes questions and comments appear under subjects that have nothing to do with the topic, then our guys wont ever find them. Thats what I mean when I say they dont have time to go through each post and see if there is anything that they can respond to. And the titles are merely there to get people interested.
If you realized that Tomi Makinen was on this BBS would you have some interesting questions that you would love to see him answer>? The same goes for this setup, now that people know that a bunch of guys are on here that work with a top level team and go to all the rallies then maybe they will have some interesting comments or questions that we would love to answer.
well you say that sometimes questions and comments appear under subjects that have nothing to do with the topic, then our guys wont ever find them. Thats what I mean when I say they dont have time to go through each post and see if there is anything that they can respond to. And the titles are merely there to get people interested.
If you realized that Tomi Makinen was on this BBS would you have some interesting questions that you would love to see him answer>? The same goes for this setup, now that people know that a bunch of guys are on here that work with a top level team and go to all the rallies then maybe they will have some interesting comments or questions that we would love to answer.
| johnfelstead | 03-28-2002 02:55 PM |
Sure, you are going to concentrate on the topics that have titles that are rally related. In general most discusions do work that way, just every so often you get topics that explode into something very interesting.
I am sure that will be suficient for all involved to work with, it would be a shame if you didnt take a look every so often at some of the other threads though, you could be missing out on some good stuff.
You have to remember this is a public BBS and you cant really control how discusions progress, thats one of the real positives about the place. Of course if things start going way off topic thats when Jamie steps in to bring some order back but Motorsport forum is the most disiplined and On Topic forum on this BBS so thats not very often. I think you will enjoy it here, there is a great feel to it.
I'll ask Tommi next time i see him about posting here, Petter is too busy with being a superstar at the moment. :lol: (had a good chat with him on sunday night in the after rally party, brilliant bloke)
I am sure that will be suficient for all involved to work with, it would be a shame if you didnt take a look every so often at some of the other threads though, you could be missing out on some good stuff.
You have to remember this is a public BBS and you cant really control how discusions progress, thats one of the real positives about the place. Of course if things start going way off topic thats when Jamie steps in to bring some order back but Motorsport forum is the most disiplined and On Topic forum on this BBS so thats not very often. I think you will enjoy it here, there is a great feel to it.
I'll ask Tommi next time i see him about posting here, Petter is too busy with being a superstar at the moment. :lol: (had a good chat with him on sunday night in the after rally party, brilliant bloke)
| TheWRX | 03-28-2002 03:36 PM |
I can make an attempt at an AutoX rule FAQ/summary. I wanted to give our top AutoX champs a chance to step forward first, but it doesn't look like it's happening ;) , so I would be happy to make a start. It would be great to have some of the real experts around here help to verify and clarify issues once I have a first version, and add things that they think are missing.
What I have in mind would certainly contain links to some of the available sites. It would obviously not try to list all rules, that's what the rulebook is for. Mainly it would consist of lists of popular (Scooby) mods that are allowed in each class.
For my credentials, I have just started to take part in AutoX events this season. I own a rulebook, and I read it. :D I have followed rule questions and discussions on this board as well as on our local Solo2 board with a lot of interest over the last few months. So I think I have a good idea of what kind of things a beginner would want to know, partly because I was there myself not too long ago.
What I have in mind would certainly contain links to some of the available sites. It would obviously not try to list all rules, that's what the rulebook is for. Mainly it would consist of lists of popular (Scooby) mods that are allowed in each class.
For my credentials, I have just started to take part in AutoX events this season. I own a rulebook, and I read it. :D I have followed rule questions and discussions on this board as well as on our local Solo2 board with a lot of interest over the last few months. So I think I have a good idea of what kind of things a beginner would want to know, partly because I was there myself not too long ago.
| Dr. WOT | 03-28-2002 04:27 PM |
I am definitely in favor of NOT splitting the forum. However I do see the idea behind a little more organization, so here's a different idea:
Two forums:
+ Motorsport [i]Spectating[/i]: WRC, F1, SCCA Pro Rally, NHRA, NASCAR, etc.
+ Motorsports [i]Participation[/i]: Rally-x, auto-x, drags, you name it, as long as it is for the purpose of actually doing the activity, not watching on TV.
Or you could use the same basic delineations but call it Professional and Amateur MS Forum (I don't think that works as well).
What do you think?
Two forums:
+ Motorsport [i]Spectating[/i]: WRC, F1, SCCA Pro Rally, NHRA, NASCAR, etc.
+ Motorsports [i]Participation[/i]: Rally-x, auto-x, drags, you name it, as long as it is for the purpose of actually doing the activity, not watching on TV.
Or you could use the same basic delineations but call it Professional and Amateur MS Forum (I don't think that works as well).
What do you think?
| Xio | 03-28-2002 06:06 PM |
I vote against a split, but if you *HAD* to do it:
Dr. WOT's idea is good:
Professional MS: F1, WRC, JGTC, ProRally, all the stuff we'd really love to try but won't get a chance to, except maybe a chosen few.
Amateur MS: Solo 1, Solo 2, Club racing/rally...those sports that mere mortals may compete in.
This would keep the Schumi v. ChiliDog threads out of the "What auto-x class am I in if I have (insert mod here)??" posts.
Dr. WOT's idea is good:
Professional MS: F1, WRC, JGTC, ProRally, all the stuff we'd really love to try but won't get a chance to, except maybe a chosen few.
Amateur MS: Solo 1, Solo 2, Club racing/rally...those sports that mere mortals may compete in.
This would keep the Schumi v. ChiliDog threads out of the "What auto-x class am I in if I have (insert mod here)??" posts.
| tifosi77 | 03-28-2002 08:57 PM |
I think that if people want to know more about rally they can go to specialstage.com, Honestly whenever we even try to get a dirt run we can usually get the same three people. Most people won't ever take their car off road and those that do usually find good resources. The motorsports forums doesn't have enough traffic to warrant it being split up. Tires, rims and Suspension should be split in two forums. I like the fact that VT car wants to offer advice but I think Cascade and Avsport should also have a voice. I haven't spoken to the guys at Vermont Sports Car but some of the car builders (not all) tell enthusiasts that they don't have to spend 30 grand to build a club level PGT (as I was told by one builder) and scare people off of the club rally and rallyx scene. I think as long as the forums is moderated and advice is given that is realistic and also presents lots of alternatives then it would be good. just my two cents.
IT is in all of our interests to bring more people into rally racing. More people means more money for better run events and more exposure.
IT is in all of our interests to bring more people into rally racing. More people means more money for better run events and more exposure.
| Axiochus | 03-28-2002 09:33 PM |
Hey Subie Gal,
How about a special section called "HERE IS A LINK TO THE SCCA PRORALLY RULE BOOK" to save Jon Bogert the trouble of having to post it three times a week?
:)
How about a special section called "HERE IS A LINK TO THE SCCA PRORALLY RULE BOOK" to save Jon Bogert the trouble of having to post it three times a week?
:)
| johnfelstead | 03-29-2002 12:04 PM |
hey guys, it's been decided not to split the forum up after listening to our responses. :)
check out [url]http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165347[/url]
check out [url]http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165347[/url]
| TheWRX | 05-09-2002 08:08 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control?
[..]
someone wish to make an FAQ on this?
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry about waking up this old thread, but I'm starting to wonder: After the [URL=http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174189]requested FAQ[/URL] has been in place for a month, was very well received with almost 100 posts and almost 2000 views, would it be possible to make it sticky now? Or if it's not what the moderators wanted it to be, can you tell us what should be added/changed?
[B]so what do we do to keep the 1,000,000 "what are the rules of autox" this n that threads under control?
[..]
someone wish to make an FAQ on this?
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry about waking up this old thread, but I'm starting to wonder: After the [URL=http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174189]requested FAQ[/URL] has been in place for a month, was very well received with almost 100 posts and almost 2000 views, would it be possible to make it sticky now? Or if it's not what the moderators wanted it to be, can you tell us what should be added/changed?
| ChrisW | 05-10-2002 02:19 PM |
Re: New Forums here in Motorsports?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]help us pick them and we'll get them set up!!!
my suggestions? something like this:
Rally/WRC/Rallycross
[i]discussions regarding Performance rally, Amateur and Pro, WRC & Rallycross[/i]
Autox/Solo1/Solo2
[i]discussions for tarmac racing, club driving events, SCCA. etc[/i]
General Motorsports Questions
[i] everything else - discussions including general motorsports questions, driving techniques, parts advice[/i]
feel free to post your ideas!
let's choose something today!
and get it set up!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Jamie,
once again your on top of the topic at hand. I would not change a thing except maybe add a drag racing forum.
[B]help us pick them and we'll get them set up!!!
my suggestions? something like this:
Rally/WRC/Rallycross
[i]discussions regarding Performance rally, Amateur and Pro, WRC & Rallycross[/i]
Autox/Solo1/Solo2
[i]discussions for tarmac racing, club driving events, SCCA. etc[/i]
General Motorsports Questions
[i] everything else - discussions including general motorsports questions, driving techniques, parts advice[/i]
feel free to post your ideas!
let's choose something today!
and get it set up!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Jamie,
once again your on top of the topic at hand. I would not change a thing except maybe add a drag racing forum.
| johnfelstead | 05-10-2002 02:29 PM |
:confused:
you have 2 pages of posts, from 03-27-2002 onwards, this is old news and was all discused and sorted out back then. Why is this being dragged up again?
:confused:
you have 2 pages of posts, from 03-27-2002 onwards, this is old news and was all discused and sorted out back then. Why is this being dragged up again?
:confused:
| z3coupe | 05-11-2002 05:11 PM |
It seems because a request for the "AutoX Rules: Read This First" FAQ post to become a sticky has been ignored for some time. Perhps if that became a sticky, it would provide a better place for us conechasers to have a sort of mini-forum inside a forum. I found it to be a good spot for all new to AutoX to begin their journey.
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