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Petter will DNF with a transmission problem (bad teeth) Rally GB Starts Friday! part 1

WagonMonster 11-27-2006 11:57 AM

Petter will DNF with a transmission problem (bad teeth) Rally GB Starts Friday!
[IMG]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/graphics/2005/05/23/hdent23.jpg[/IMG]

:banana:
WRXedUSA 11-27-2006 12:30 PM

:lol:
Mopho 11-27-2006 01:53 PM

So close, yet so far away- I'll be in Ireland this weekend for a different rally

Nice title :lol:
LastResort 11-27-2006 01:57 PM

I wonder if the car parts have formed a union and are on strike for better working condition.
Easy Rider 11-27-2006 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Mopho;16124159]So close, yet so far away- I'll be in Ireland this weekend for a different rally

Nice title :lol:[/QUOTE]

Oh - Morgan - post up some pics when you have them!
Is this the same Historic event you went to last(?) year?
WRC
Mopho 11-27-2006 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=Easy Rider;16126463]Oh - Morgan - post up some pics when you have them!
Is this the same Historic event you went to last(?) year?
WRC[/QUOTE]


Same event. Last time I went was in 04.
158 entries!!! Check out the [URL="http://www.killarneyanddistrictmotorclub.com/killarneyhistoricrally/competitors.php"]Entry List[/URL] :eek:
vaj 11-27-2006 05:24 PM

HAHAHA!

It's not my bag, I swear!

Go teef! Go Petter!
XenoWolf 11-27-2006 10:17 PM

Go Doug and Pete!
runnah 11-28-2006 11:00 AM

I hear the blue oval boys are going to be the ones to watch.

Both going hard for the win. I hope Mikko beats Gronholm, that be a rally!

I've given up on guessing what will happen to Petter.
WRXedUSA 11-28-2006 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=XenoWolf;16131106]Go Doug and Pete![/QUOTE]

:confused:

Shepard & Gladyz?
Gethin 11-28-2006 11:48 AM

wish I was back there watching the event
OBShahn 11-28-2006 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA;16136458]:confused:

Shepard & Gladyz?[/QUOTE]



Haven't seen a recent entry list but they were on there at one point in a N4 subaru...
XenoWolf 11-28-2006 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA;16136458]:confused:

Shepard & Gladyz?[/QUOTE]

Yep! :D

Checked the entry list just last night and they were still listed as entries in an N4 STI.
chimchimm5 11-28-2006 02:06 PM

Interviewer: "Petter, this was your last chance this year to win, what happened?"

Petter: (with look of incredulousness and trying very hard to remain civil while seething inside and ready to explode and go apenuts on someone) "I dunno... it's just unbelievable. The transmission just broke.... incredible. This whole season. Just in incredible."
runnah 11-28-2006 02:23 PM

[QUOTE=chimchimm5;16138517]Interviewer: "Petter, this was your last chance this year to win, what happen?"

Petter: (with look of incredulousness and trying very hard to remain civil while seething inside and ready to explode and go apenuts on someone) "I dunno... it's just unbelievable. The transmission just broke.... incredible. This whole season. Just in incredible."[/QUOTE]

I want to see him go ape****.
davis10 11-28-2006 02:39 PM

[QUOTE=chimchimm5;16138517]Interviewer: "Petter, this was your last chance this year to win, what happen?"

Petter: (with look of incredulousness and trying very hard to remain civil while seething inside and ready to explode and go apenuts on someone) "I dunno... it's just unbelievable. The transmission just broke.... incredible. This whole season. Just in incredible."[/QUOTE]

+1 :lol:
Yotsuya 11-28-2006 03:59 PM

Better than McRae back in the 90s when he was asked about for a solution to his tire issues at a Sweedish rally and immediately responded "I dunno maybe get a Michelin."
WRXedUSA 11-28-2006 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=XenoWolf;16138263]Yep! :D

Checked the entry list just last night and they were still listed as entries in an N4 STI.[/QUOTE]

Well that's fantastic!!!

Get 'er done guys!
WRXedUSA 11-28-2006 05:54 PM

[url]http://msaevents.datagate.net.uk/wrgb/artman/uploads/list_of_entries_received_subject_to_fia_approval_-_01-11-06_001.pdf[/url]
Weasel 555 11-29-2006 08:35 AM

I'm hoping Petter actually wins :D

but know's Gronholm is gonna take it
Protege Menace 11-29-2006 09:18 AM

hes won GB for the last 4 years in a row. I think if his stupid car doesn't break he can do it no problem with loeb out of the picture. (?)
WagonMonster 11-29-2006 12:08 PM

Year, GB has always been Petter's event, a win sure would be nice.
RBelcher00 11-29-2006 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=chimchimm5;16138517]Interviewer: "Petter, this was your last chance this year to win, what happened?"

Petter: (with look of incredulousness and trying very hard to remain civil while seething inside and ready to explode and go apenuts on someone) "I dunno... it's just unbelievable. The transmission just broke.... incredible. This whole season. Just in incredible."[/QUOTE]


Hahahahaha.


I hope Petter actualy wins this rally. Just gotta hope for rain. But even that didn't help this last rally...
But I KNOW that something will happen to his car. Again. Just like every other rally this season. I HATE when they show a Subaru that's not in 1st place on the Eurosport coverage, because you know they're just going to show something going wrong on Petter's car, or Chris Atkinson crashing out as usual.

Would be nice to see Mikko disobeying Ford orders and pushing and fighting Gronholm for the win. Ha.
cowapult 11-29-2006 05:59 PM

I'm going. Anyone ever spectated WRC GB? Any advice? (FYI I've been to US Pro rallies and know the basics, but I've never been to WRC).

I guess our plan is to spectate at "Halfway". We'll stay there all day and see the cars go through once in the morning, once in the evening, then move to Millenium Stadium. But, if someone knows better, we could do something else.
WRXedUSA 11-29-2006 09:27 PM

I know a few people here have been to Wales Rally before.

I've done 4 events.

Advice?

- Plan ahead. Wake up early.
- Pretend you are camping
- You will only get to see 3 stages a day, maximum.
- Talk to a local, they may know backroads to get to uncrowded spectator pens
-Don't speed or do asshat things on the roads. Cops are thick in Wales during the rally.
-Skip the SSS if at all possible. The real stages are where it's at.

There are 98 entries in this rally, so expect the roads to be crowded.
Weasel 555 11-30-2006 08:51 AM

rally GB site says 141 entries !....where a million rally fans descend on cardiff :p
runnah 11-30-2006 09:57 AM

Looks like a wet weekend.

That should favor Petter.
Weasel 555 11-30-2006 04:16 PM

Shakedown !
from rally-live.com

The shakedown of the Wales Rally GB took place this morning in the Penllergaer Forest, just four kilometres away from the service area.

Under cloudy skies and a temperature of around 10�C, the drivers had the opportunity to evaluate the best set-ups for their cars, taking into consideration the predicted rain for tomorrow's leg.

Dani Sordo damaged a suspension on his Xsara after hitting a rock. Kronos had time to repair his car and send him for a final run through the 3.90 km course.

Petter Solberg and Mikko Hirvonen set an identical time to share the best performance of the day. Henning Solberg achieved the third fastest time at the wheel of his Peugeot 307 WRC.

Only a few seconds separated Marcus Gronholm in fourth place and the rest of the top 8: Dani Sordo (5th), Manfred Stohl (6th), Chris Atkinson (7th) and Jari-Matti Latvala (8th).

After the shakedown, the drivers returned to the service area, where the teams will need to prepare the cars for this evening's ceremonial start at the Millenium Stadium.

Shakedown results
1 Mikko Hirvonen Ford Focus WRC 2'22. 6
- Petter Solberg Subaru Impreza WRC 2:22.6

3 Henning Solberg Peugeot 307 WRC 2:23.3
4 Marcus Gr�nholm Ford Focus WRC 2:23.4
5 Daniel Sordo Citro�n Xsara WRC 2:23.5
6 Chris Atkinson Subaru Impreza WRC 2:24.0
7 Manfred Stohl Peugeot 307 WRC 2:24.1
8 Jari-Matti Latvala Ford Focus WRC 2:25,7
9 Harri Rovanper� Skoda Fabia WRC 2:25.8
10 Xavier Pons Citro�n Xsara WRC 2:27.4
11 Andreas Aigner Skoda Fabia WRC 2:27.7
12 Matthew Wilson Ford Focus WRC 2:29.1
13 Fran�ois Duval Skoda Fabia WRC 2:29.4
14 Mark Higgins Ford Focus WRC 2:31.2
15 Jan Kopecky Skoda Fabia WRC 2:32.1
Slick33 11-30-2006 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=RBelcher00;16150451]Hahahahaha.

Would be nice to see Mikko disobeying Ford orders and pushing and fighting Gronholm for the win. Ha.[/QUOTE]

With both championships wrapped up, team orders shouldn't come into play. I expect them both to be pushing each other this weekend.
RB5 Clone 11-30-2006 06:24 PM

Cheer for Yanks in Rally Wales GB!!!
little known fact--there are 2 Ammerricons entered in Rally GB this year

Doug Shepherd and Pete Gladyz, Impreza Gp N. these guys normally run a FWD Gp5 Dodge Neon with about eleventy-million hp in the Rally America series.

they completed recce in the RHD Subie (or its local rentacar equivalent) "without any issues", so check out the entry list and cheer on some real live US privateers!

Dave G
LastResort 11-30-2006 08:26 PM

Didn't they roll their SRT early in the X-Games? That was a heart breaker.
WRXedUSA 12-01-2006 03:00 PM

Shepard-Gladyz are up to 42nd.
psg 12-01-2006 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=LastResort;16171846]Didn't they roll their SRT early in the X-Games? That was a heart breaker.[/QUOTE]

I believe they rolled it on either the opening stage (or second, I forget) during the Gorman portion of the rally, then after mending the car together for the Home Depot Center special stage, they had some issues with the in-stadium jump and ultimately killed the car.

Good showing from Petter--up to 2nd overall, and charging.
Weasel 555 12-01-2006 05:01 PM

It was a close battle for supremacy in Resolfen 2, eight drivers finishing the stage within a 15-second gap. Marcus Gronholm and Petter Solberg set an identical time to share the stage victory.

Manfred Stohl lost 3.5 seconds on the stage winning duo. The OMV driver is third in this timed event and also third overall, eight seconds away from Petter Solberg.

Chris Atkinson achieved his best stage result of the race, clinching fourth place, three tenths of a second faster than Dani Sordo. The Kronos driver moved ahead of his teammate Xevi Pons to take sixth position in the race standings. Pons had to settle for ninth place in SS5, 25 seconds slower than Gronholm and Solberg.

Jari-Matti Latvala set the sixth fastest time, followed by Francois Duval and Henning Solberg, both men sharing seventh place with the same stage time.

Mark Higgins is the final driver in the top ten, the British star finishing in front of Harri Rovanpera (11th), Jan Kopecky (12th) and Matthew Wilson (13th).

Andreas Aigner wasn't able to complete the stage, the Red Bull Skoda driver stopped on the road.

Overall after SS6 (Rheola 2):

1.Gronholm - Ford - 1h14'51"9
2.P.Solberg - Subaru - 1h15'17"7 :D
3.Stohl - Pug307 - 1h15'40"0
4.Sordo - Citroen - 1h17'02"9
5.Pons - Citroen - 1h17'03"8
6.Atkinson - Subaru - 1h17'38"1 :)
7.Duval - Skoda - 1h17'45"0
8.Kopecky - Skoda - 1h19'18"7
9.H.Solberg - Pug307 - 1h21'49"7
10.Aigner - Skoda - 1h27'19"9
11.Mikkelsen - Ford - 1h38'14"4

Retirements:
4 Hirvonen-Lethinen Ford Focus Wrc Mechanical after SS3
47 Bordignon-Bardini Opel Astra Withdrawn
67 Bengue-Escudero Mitsubishi Lancer Withdrawn
84 Galpin-Bacle Mitsubishi Lancer Withdrawn
103 Lloyd-Gullick Subaru Impreza Mechanical SS3
127 Grodetskiy-Lotko Ford Fiesta St Withdrawn
133 Fanning-Ward Ford Puma Withdrawn
137 Hopkins-Durbin Subaru Impreza Withdrawn
OBShahn 12-01-2006 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=psg;16173667]I believe they rolled it on either the opening stage (or second, I forget) during the Gorman portion of the rally, then after mending the car together for the Home Depot Center special stage, they had some issues with the in-stadium jump and ultimately killed the car.

Good showing from Petter--up to 2nd overall, and charging.[/QUOTE]




They rolled it on SS5 and pieced it together for the Home Depot SSS then, on their first run, without notes, unaware of the gap jump, proceeded into the jump without sufficient speed and slammed it home in the gap...
Predwolf 12-02-2006 12:03 AM

I'ven lost my drive to get my hopes up when Petter is up top. Whenever I do, he always gets knocked out due to some absolutly absurd consequence. Like a bolt of lightning frying his alternator.


Go Petter :(.
psg 12-02-2006 12:13 AM

Petter looks like he actually has a chance this rally. About a third of the stages through, and he took about 9 seconds off of Gronholm's lead on SS6 alone.
Gethin 12-02-2006 01:25 AM

Rally Radio live at [url]http://www.walesrallygb.com/[/url]

Wish I was back home right now...............
Predwolf 12-02-2006 01:59 AM

^^ Thanks Gethin :)

Nothing on it right now, but I'll be up all night anyways.
WRXedUSA 12-02-2006 02:01 AM

Go to WRC.com

on the left hand side.
Gethin 12-02-2006 02:44 AM

that 87.7 coveage is awesome!
Yotsuya 12-02-2006 10:07 PM

Go Manfred!
Weasel 555 12-03-2006 09:23 AM

It started to rain once again for the final stage of the Wales Rally GB. Despite the tough race conditions, Marcus Gronholm dominated the rally to clinch his seventh victory of the season, his 25 WRC career win.

�It's good. Very good feeling to finish one point behind Loeb. We have to try next year again,� said Marcus Gronholm.

Manfred Stohl matched his best WRC result with a superb second position, the Austrian driver having a faultless weekend.

Third overall is Petter Solberg. The Subaru driver clinched the stage victory in this final timed event. �I had a good weekend. Thank you very much to Pirelli and I am looking forward to next year,� said Solberg.

Jari-Matti Latvala achieved his best WRC career result with a great fourth place finish. A wonderful way to end a good season for the young Finn.

Xevi Pons finished fifth, just 7.6 seconds ahead of Chris Atkinson in sxith place. �I enjoyed it but not today.

I don't understand, I didn't have a good feeling but it's a good result,� said Pons.

�It's been a tough rally and a tough year but I want to thank the team. We can't wait for next year,� mentioned Atkinson.

Dani Sordo and Francois Duval complete the top eight, the Kronos driver 14.3 seconds in front of Duval.

Skoda drivers Harri Rovanpera (9th) and Jan Kopecky (10th) round up the top ten.


Overall Day 3:

1.Gronholm - Ford - 3h20'24"8
2.Stohl - Pug307 - 3h22'00"3
3.P.Solberg - Subaru - 3h22'20"0 :D
4.Latvala - Ford - 3h23'01"9
5.Pons - Citroen - 3h23'44"7
6.Atkinson - Subaru - 3h23'52"3 :)
7.Sordo - Citroen - 3h24'33"1
8.Duval - Skoda - 3h24'47"4
9.Rovanpera - Skoda - 3h28'25"1
10.Kopecky - Skoda - 3h28'52"6
11.H.Solberg - Pug307 - 3h29'13"1
12.Wilson - Ford - 3h30'46"7
RB5 Clone 12-03-2006 09:30 AM

Yanks Doug Shepherd and Pete Gladysz broke a driveshaft, busted tires, bent a control arm.....and still finished 38th overall in their GpN Impreza.


:banana: :banana: :banana:

DG
Weasel 555 12-03-2006 10:02 AM

[QUOTE=RB5 Clone;16187387]Yanks Doug Shepherd and Pete Gladysz broke a driveshaft, busted tires, bent a control arm.....and still finished 38th overall in their GpN Impreza.


:banana: :banana: :banana:

DG[/QUOTE]

:banana: Awesome :banana: :D
Boxologist 12-03-2006 01:44 PM

matt Wilson finished in one piece!?!?!?!
OBShahn 12-03-2006 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=Boxologist;16188828]matt Wilson finished in one piece!?!?!?![/QUOTE]




Driving 10 minutes slower than the leaders will do that for you...
Boxologist 12-03-2006 03:04 PM

he does and still goes offroading on gravel stages!
OBShahn 12-03-2006 04:25 PM

Congrats to the "old guys".

Shepherd and Gladyz fell back to 51st after some otherwise unexplainable mechanical failures but still did quite well.
cowapult 12-05-2006 06:08 AM

Here are some videos I took:
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=catapultsam"][U][COLOR=#810081]http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=catapultsam[/COLOR][/U][/URL]

It was an awesome experience. But, I also have to give props to our US rallies for a few things, because I really think they are almost as fun to watch as a WRC event.
RB5 Clone 12-05-2006 03:05 PM

US beats WRC??!!
[QUOTE=cowapult;16209949] have to give props to our US rallies for a few things, because I really think they are almost as fun to watch as a WRC event.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the teaser, so what's better about US events, such as....??? :confused:

DG
WagonMonster 12-05-2006 05:11 PM

[quote=cowapult;16209949]But, I also have to give props to our US rallies for a few things, because I really think they are almost as fun to watch as a WRC event.[/quote]

:lol::lol:

No, really

:lol::lol:
OBShahn 12-05-2006 05:48 PM

[QUOTE=WagonMonster;16217355]:lol::lol:

No, really

:lol::lol:[/QUOTE]



perhaps there are people for whom free roaming spectating ? better (and at WRBG you have to pay a lot of money for that privlege as well)...
Swanny07 12-05-2006 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=cowapult;16209949]
It was an awesome experience. But, I also have to give props to our US rallies for a few things, because I really think they are almost as fun to watch as a WRC event.[/QUOTE]


You're kidding right?!?!?
WagonMonster 12-05-2006 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=OBShahn;16217847]perhaps there are people for whom free roaming spectating ? better (and at WRBG you have to pay a lot of money for that privlege as well)...[/QUOTE]
Spectating at Rally Mexico is free, and awesome

Spectating at Rally New Zealand is ~$50 for 3 days, and awesome

My pix

[url]http://www.williwood.com/gallery/mexico/?album=rally[/url]
[url]http://www.williwood.com/gallery/enzed/?album=rally[/url]
cowapult 12-05-2006 07:57 PM

Yay, I've started a controversy! First, I really loved Wales Rally GB, so I'm not complaining about a thing. But, my point is, I gush about US Pro rallies [B][I]almost [/I][/B]as much. I guess it made me cherish that we still have a real stage rally scene in the US. Ignoring the glamor and flashbulbs, really my experiences and sensations in both cases are very similar. I can only compare what I've seen: Rim & STPR vs. Wales Rally GB.

"Free roaming spectator locations": Draw.
In both countries, we were penned up behind yellow tape after fighting traffic jams. And, of course, a crowd beat you there and is blocking your camera shot. In US, you pay nothing to stand behind yellow tape. In Wales, you pay 20 pounds (40 bucks) to stand behind yellow tape. Maybe other WRC venues are different, I'm only speaking of Wales.

Driver performance: WRC
The driving was on a different plane, it was jaw-dropping to watch.

Unpredictability/Entertainment factor: Advantage US.
The action is more variable and exciting in the US because you're watching imperfect drivers, with no recce, and sparser notes. That means you see each US driver go a little too fast/slow/wide/tight... and at least one guy goes the wrong way at the junction! 99.9% of the time a WRC driver comes through in the previous guy's tire tracks like a robot... a very cool robot but a predictable one.

Weather:
All rally weather is BAD everywhere (even in L.A. the year I went and people got hypothermia) but the UK has to lose this category - just on principle. Now those Mediterranean WRC rounds - that's a whole different story :cool:

Grassroots/underdog factor: Advantage US.
Most of the drivers are ordinary guys (or gals) who just happened to sink more of their mortgage into their hobby. They are totally cool to talk to. Many of the cars are beat up and dirty like any respectable rally car should be, and slower than the average nasiocer's daily driver. By contrast, the WRC cars are way too clean. Chat with the drivers? Not even with the tool who cleans Petter Solberg's firesuit :lol:

Driver Drama: Who cares.
If you're into rooting for a particular hero, or the soap operas, then obviously "advantage WRC". Personally, it's lost on me. I don't listen to any of them them and just watch the cars.

Alcohol: Advantage Wales.
Lots of people were casually cracking a beer, which was blowing my mind after the cooler inspections at STPR.

Spectator camaraderie: advantage STPR.
Maybe it's just the forest night-stage scene there that make people expect a more social atmosphere. But everyone chats cheerfully during the day. Then at night, everyone starts yelling to the other side or just tells campfire stories or rally war stories to the people nearby. None of that really happened at Wales Rally GB. People set off their airhorns and cheered for the drivers from their country, but there was no particular socializing or community that I noticed (but granted I've only been once and could be totally off base!). After nightfall in Wales, we were in stadium seating watching the show from the nose bleed seats :lol:.


Like I said, the sensations were pretty similar (and pretty awesome) in both cases. In both cases you get awesome cars doing awesome things on slippery roads out in the beautiful countryside. I'm glad we have good stage rally, and I appreciate that we have it MORE now that I know it's basically the same sport as the big boys.

These are all just personal opinions, but they're based on actual first hand experience - so I can't be "wrong" or "naive". But I hope everyone has completely different opinions and starts a little controversy :lol:
Chromer 12-05-2006 09:17 PM

Torrents are posted. More users needed to speed up the swarm.

[url]http://zerotracker.com/torrents-search.php?search=wrc+gb&cat=25[/url]
Big C 12-06-2006 11:20 AM

Yo Cowapult! Sounds like things are going well on the other side of the pond. Maybe Kristie and I will have to come out and vist for next year's event so I can personally assess whether you are right or not ;)

-C
cowapult 12-06-2006 11:42 AM

Hey Colin good to hear from ya! You're welcome any time. If I'm not back in DC by next Dec, then we're on :devil:
chimchimm5 12-07-2006 03:25 AM

[quote=Weasel 555;16187366] Third overall is Petter Solberg. The Subaru driver clinched the stage victory in this final timed event. �I had a good weekend. [B]Thank you very much to Pirelli[/B] and I am looking forward to next year,� said Solberg. [/quote]

Heh.

Professional gratitude and seething sarcasm rolled into one. :D

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