| JDMpreza | 07-06-2003 02:27 PM |
Rally = New Rice Trend?
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did anyone else read this article in SCC? i think it's true. i've seen lots of neons and cavaleirs going for a "rally" theme. and with that new kia rio sport pac out, that thing just screams STi ripoff. either 2 things could come out of this:
1) we end up looking better because are cars are actually designed for rally racing.
or
2) we blend in with every other ricer out there.
this could suck...
1) we end up looking better because are cars are actually designed for rally racing.
or
2) we blend in with every other ricer out there.
this could suck...
| quentinberg007 | 07-06-2003 02:40 PM |
what is this "rally" theme you speak of? stickers? body kits?
:confused:
~~Quentin
:confused:
~~Quentin
| JDMpreza | 07-06-2003 02:50 PM |
big hood scoops, gold wheels, rally wings, lots of stickers, oversized foglights, etc.
| quentinberg007 | 07-06-2003 02:56 PM |
we will end up looking better. if i see an accord w/ a WRC wing, gold wheels, and a hood scoop, i will laugh my ass off. most other cars don't pull off the look the way subaru does. i would say the only real reason street subaru's look good w/ gold wheels is because it is factory in japan and europe, as well as the SWRT using gold wheels for many years.
~~Quentin
p.s. it would be awesome to have an AWD 300 hp focus stickered up like the rally car though :) or an evo for that matter
~~Quentin
p.s. it would be awesome to have an AWD 300 hp focus stickered up like the rally car though :) or an evo for that matter
| gjhsu | 07-06-2003 03:47 PM |
In that case, I better get me the STi wing before it goes 'rice' :rolleyes: :lol:
Oh, I did read the article and really didn't think anything of it. I have yet to find a wing out there with the verticle slats. Something about zero-rear visibility scares me.
Oh, I did read the article and really didn't think anything of it. I have yet to find a wing out there with the verticle slats. Something about zero-rear visibility scares me.
| Butt Dyno | 07-06-2003 05:32 PM |
The Kia thing was AFAIK only in Australia...
The Cavalier had a "rally sport" edition way before the WRX was released in the states...
Trend? Not exactly, but feel free to speculate :)
-bd
The Cavalier had a "rally sport" edition way before the WRX was released in the states...
Trend? Not exactly, but feel free to speculate :)
-bd
| obyone | 07-06-2003 07:53 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ButtDyno [/i]
[B]The Kia thing was AFAIK only in Australia...
The Cavalier had a "rally sport" edition way before the WRX was released in the states...
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
I never understood that. I mean, why have a Rally sport edition when you don't compete in rally at all? :confused:
[B]The Kia thing was AFAIK only in Australia...
The Cavalier had a "rally sport" edition way before the WRX was released in the states...
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
I never understood that. I mean, why have a Rally sport edition when you don't compete in rally at all? :confused:
| Butt Dyno | 07-06-2003 08:23 PM |
Maybe the same reason there's a Dodge Caravan Sport? :lol:
[url]http://www.autoworld.com/news/Chevrolet/Cavalier_smart.htm[/url]
[quote]
The distinctive Cavalier Rally Sport Coupe adds features such as Electronic Speed Control, Tilt-Wheel steering column, a tachometer, rear decklid spoiler and luggage area cargo net, just to name a few.
[/quote]
It sounds rugged I guess.
-bd
[url]http://www.autoworld.com/news/Chevrolet/Cavalier_smart.htm[/url]
[quote]
The distinctive Cavalier Rally Sport Coupe adds features such as Electronic Speed Control, Tilt-Wheel steering column, a tachometer, rear decklid spoiler and luggage area cargo net, just to name a few.
[/quote]
It sounds rugged I guess.
-bd
| N'CTRL | 07-06-2003 09:16 PM |
This looks like a rally wing to me. Though there is the Celica All-Trac, this doesn't cut it...
[IMG]http://www.trdracing.com/celica/images/rearwing.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.trdracing.com/celica/images/rearwing.gif[/IMG]
| gjhsu | 07-06-2003 10:11 PM |
Just me, or does the Celica wing look similar to the Evo? :confused:
[IMG]http://members.cox.net/bluerocketsi/e8/DSC00936.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://216.55.128.43/strevda/ED/ExtImages/00celica_trd.wing.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://members.cox.net/bluerocketsi/e8/DSC00936.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://216.55.128.43/strevda/ED/ExtImages/00celica_trd.wing.jpg[/IMG]
| Subasaurus Rex | 07-06-2003 10:20 PM |
The phrase 'Rally Sport' has been used by Chevrolet since the late sixties - it has nothing to do with actual rally racing.
Although, if I remember correctly, they may have been involved with stuff like the Pike's Peak hillclimb and racing of that sort. Not sure though. :confused:
Although, if I remember correctly, they may have been involved with stuff like the Pike's Peak hillclimb and racing of that sort. Not sure though. :confused:
| Boxologist | 07-06-2003 11:01 PM |
did Toyota come out with a mk VII Celica all-trac!?!? as far as i knew they fropped the ball with the body shape, did not release the convertible and all-trac and then released the MAtrix.
The boxy wing has been with the new celcia since the start of the new body as a TRD upgrade option.
The boxy wing has been with the new celcia since the start of the new body as a TRD upgrade option.
| Turbo X | 07-06-2003 11:07 PM |
Seems to me that everybody are trying to get a bit of "rally spirit" in their new vehicle after the huge success of the WRX. :rolleyes:
| Butt Dyno | 07-06-2003 11:12 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Turbo X [/i]
[B]Seems to me that everybody are trying to get a bit of "rally spirit" in their new vehicle after the huge success of the WRX. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
"everybody" - who?
Kia? overseas
Chevy? there's no rally sport anymore
Mitsu? The Evo predates the WRX...
Toyota? resemblence iffy at best, and the 7th gen Celica was introduced in the US before the WRX was...
there is no trend... move along...
-bd
[B]Seems to me that everybody are trying to get a bit of "rally spirit" in their new vehicle after the huge success of the WRX. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
"everybody" - who?
Kia? overseas
Chevy? there's no rally sport anymore
Mitsu? The Evo predates the WRX...
Toyota? resemblence iffy at best, and the 7th gen Celica was introduced in the US before the WRX was...
there is no trend... move along...
-bd
| Brady | 07-06-2003 11:51 PM |
all i have to say about old american muscle and rally racing is check out the '68 Barracuda that VT Sports Car built! :eek:
| TrunkMonk | 07-07-2003 09:16 AM |
All I know is that the first time I see a WRX with the new SWRT wing with the slats, I will laugh my ass off
That thing is dreadfully ugly ...
That thing is dreadfully ugly ...
| silver04rs | 07-07-2003 02:55 PM |
its good
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i think its a good thing. as long as everyone that lifts their car or puts some mud flaps on uses them. It also looks better than a car that cant make it in a driveway. their functional and there fun. RALLY ON. --GRAVEL CREW
| Oo DaRk StAr oO | 07-07-2003 03:02 PM |
That celica wing is part of the Toyota Action Package and has been out since August 1999.
| Turbo X | 07-07-2003 08:44 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ButtDyno [/i]
[B]
"everybody" - who?
Kia? overseas
Chevy? there's no rally sport anymore
Mitsu? The Evo predates the WRX...
Toyota? resemblence iffy at best, and the 7th gen Celica was introduced in the US before the WRX was...
there is no trend... move along...
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm, ok. The Neon SRT-4 from Dodge, please don't tell me you can't find the similarities between that and a WRX. The turbo Focus from Ford... no trend huh?! :rolleyes:
[B]
"everybody" - who?
Kia? overseas
Chevy? there's no rally sport anymore
Mitsu? The Evo predates the WRX...
Toyota? resemblence iffy at best, and the 7th gen Celica was introduced in the US before the WRX was...
there is no trend... move along...
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm, ok. The Neon SRT-4 from Dodge, please don't tell me you can't find the similarities between that and a WRX. The turbo Focus from Ford... no trend huh?! :rolleyes:
| Costanza | 07-07-2003 09:04 PM |
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33646&item=2421746339[/url]
[IMG]http://www.anthonythomas.com/EBAY/WRX_style_scoop_1/WRX_1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.anthonythomas.com/EBAY/WRX_style_scoop_1/WRX_1.jpg[/IMG]
| Butt Dyno | 07-07-2003 09:08 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Turbo X [/i]
[B]Mmm, ok. The Neon SRT-4 from Dodge, please don't tell me you can't find the similarities between that and a WRX. The turbo Focus from Ford... no trend huh?! :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Turbo car trend != rally car trend. Similarities between the WRX and the SRT4? They both have turbos? I'll believe the turbo Focus when I see one :)
-bd
[B]Mmm, ok. The Neon SRT-4 from Dodge, please don't tell me you can't find the similarities between that and a WRX. The turbo Focus from Ford... no trend huh?! :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Turbo car trend != rally car trend. Similarities between the WRX and the SRT4? They both have turbos? I'll believe the turbo Focus when I see one :)
-bd
| eastcoastbumps | 07-07-2003 09:30 PM |
Did someone say Turbo Focus?
[IMG]http://www.fasterfords.com/pictures/shows/donnington/rs_focus_nat_1.jpg[/IMG]
Pete
[IMG]http://www.fasterfords.com/pictures/shows/donnington/rs_focus_nat_1.jpg[/IMG]
Pete
| jaypride | 07-07-2003 09:33 PM |
Now lets see one on a US street
| Butt Dyno | 07-07-2003 09:36 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jaypride [/i]
[B]Now lets see one on a US street [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah when I said see one, I meant [b]in person[/b] :)
-bd
[B]Now lets see one on a US street [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah when I said see one, I meant [b]in person[/b] :)
-bd
| JDMpreza | 07-07-2003 09:55 PM |
actually, i've heard about a few SRT-4 rally competitions.
and yeah, they totally ripped of the WRX when designing that car. look at the headlights and the overall design of the car. not to mention the fact dodge now decides to slap a turbo and AWD on a neon and use for WRC.
it's a shame so much effort is put forth but yet they will never win anything.
also, when i said it's going to be a new trend, i didn't mean cars were coming out of the factory with lots of "rally" features, i meant ricers will start ripping on the style because of the new line up of rally-driven cars. (i.e. WRX, STi, EVO8, SRT-4, etc.)
PS- that Mazdaspeed protoge tried a little too hard too. 170hp turbo/intercooled? QMT = 15.6? :rolleyes:
and yeah, they totally ripped of the WRX when designing that car. look at the headlights and the overall design of the car. not to mention the fact dodge now decides to slap a turbo and AWD on a neon and use for WRC.
it's a shame so much effort is put forth but yet they will never win anything.
also, when i said it's going to be a new trend, i didn't mean cars were coming out of the factory with lots of "rally" features, i meant ricers will start ripping on the style because of the new line up of rally-driven cars. (i.e. WRX, STi, EVO8, SRT-4, etc.)
PS- that Mazdaspeed protoge tried a little too hard too. 170hp turbo/intercooled? QMT = 15.6? :rolleyes:
| Butt Dyno | 07-07-2003 10:12 PM |
I can't honestly tell if you're kidding or not...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JDMpreza [/i]
[B]and yeah, they totally ripped of the WRX when designing that car. look at the headlights and the overall design of the car.[/B][/QUOTE]
So the Neon, first released 1994 IIRC, and redesigned in 1999 for MY2000, ripped off the WRX, which went bugeyed in 01? You have to be kidding, right?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JDMpreza [/i]
[B] not to mention the fact dodge now decides to slap a turbo and AWD on a neon and use for WRC.
[/B][/QUOTE]
There's an SRT-4 rally car but it is front wheel drive. And Dodge is not and will probably never be in the WRC..
-bd
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JDMpreza [/i]
[B]and yeah, they totally ripped of the WRX when designing that car. look at the headlights and the overall design of the car.[/B][/QUOTE]
So the Neon, first released 1994 IIRC, and redesigned in 1999 for MY2000, ripped off the WRX, which went bugeyed in 01? You have to be kidding, right?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JDMpreza [/i]
[B] not to mention the fact dodge now decides to slap a turbo and AWD on a neon and use for WRC.
[/B][/QUOTE]
There's an SRT-4 rally car but it is front wheel drive. And Dodge is not and will probably never be in the WRC..
-bd
| elsanto | 07-08-2003 01:11 PM |
My girlfriend has a 96' neon.. and she allways compares the 2, but its whats inside that counts...
| Subie Gal | 07-08-2003 01:13 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by eastcoastbumps [/i]
[B]Did someone say Turbo Focus?
[IMG]http://www.fasterfords.com/pictures/shows/donnington/rs_focus_nat_1.jpg[/IMG]
Pete [/B][/QUOTE]
still.. it's only FWD... :lol:
Ford = teh stupid for not making a nice AWD Focus..... :)
[B]Did someone say Turbo Focus?
[IMG]http://www.fasterfords.com/pictures/shows/donnington/rs_focus_nat_1.jpg[/IMG]
Pete [/B][/QUOTE]
still.. it's only FWD... :lol:
Ford = teh stupid for not making a nice AWD Focus..... :)
| JDMpreza | 07-08-2003 05:00 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ButtDyno [/i]
[B]I can't honestly tell if you're kidding or not...
So the Neon, first released 1994 IIRC, and redesigned in 1999 for MY2000, ripped off the WRX, which went bugeyed in 01? You have to be kidding, right?
[/B][/QUOTE]
thanks for the info, everyone seems really impressed.
get your head out of your ass.
[B]I can't honestly tell if you're kidding or not...
So the Neon, first released 1994 IIRC, and redesigned in 1999 for MY2000, ripped off the WRX, which went bugeyed in 01? You have to be kidding, right?
[/B][/QUOTE]
thanks for the info, everyone seems really impressed.
get your head out of your ass.
| Butt Dyno | 07-08-2003 05:12 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JDMpreza [/i]
[B]
thanks for the info, everyone seems really impressed.
get your head out of your ass. [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I thought it was pretty silly of you to accuse Dodge of stealing bug eyes from the 01 Impreza, when they devoted an entire ad campaign to the distinct bug eyed look of the Neon well before the New Age Impreza was released. Accusing Dodge of ripping off Subaru is just silly
-bd
[B]
thanks for the info, everyone seems really impressed.
get your head out of your ass. [/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I thought it was pretty silly of you to accuse Dodge of stealing bug eyes from the 01 Impreza, when they devoted an entire ad campaign to the distinct bug eyed look of the Neon well before the New Age Impreza was released. Accusing Dodge of ripping off Subaru is just silly
-bd
| Turbo X | 07-08-2003 10:15 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JDMpreza [/i]
[B]actually, i've heard about a few SRT-4 rally competitions.
and yeah, they totally ripped of the WRX when designing that car. look at the headlights and the overall design of the car. not to mention the fact dodge now decides to slap a turbo and AWD on a neon and use for WRC.
it's a shame so much effort is put forth but yet they will never win anything.
also, when i said it's going to be a new trend, i didn't mean cars were coming out of the factory with lots of "rally" features, i meant ricers will start ripping on the style because of the new line up of rally-driven cars. (i.e. WRX, STi, EVO8, SRT-4, etc.)
PS- that Mazdaspeed protoge tried a little too hard too. 170hp turbo/intercooled? QMT = 15.6? :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, what he said. And no I am not being sarcastic because the trend is obvious on how the domestic car company are trying to sell their so called " rally "+ "turbo" sport compacts in the market nowadays. :rolleyes: If you don't realize the impact that the Subaru WRX have made in the car industry; you are not so observant. Late. :disco:
[B]actually, i've heard about a few SRT-4 rally competitions.
and yeah, they totally ripped of the WRX when designing that car. look at the headlights and the overall design of the car. not to mention the fact dodge now decides to slap a turbo and AWD on a neon and use for WRC.
it's a shame so much effort is put forth but yet they will never win anything.
also, when i said it's going to be a new trend, i didn't mean cars were coming out of the factory with lots of "rally" features, i meant ricers will start ripping on the style because of the new line up of rally-driven cars. (i.e. WRX, STi, EVO8, SRT-4, etc.)
PS- that Mazdaspeed protoge tried a little too hard too. 170hp turbo/intercooled? QMT = 15.6? :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, what he said. And no I am not being sarcastic because the trend is obvious on how the domestic car company are trying to sell their so called " rally "+ "turbo" sport compacts in the market nowadays. :rolleyes: If you don't realize the impact that the Subaru WRX have made in the car industry; you are not so observant. Late. :disco:
| Butt Dyno | 07-08-2003 10:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Turbo X [/i]
[B]Yeah, what he said. And no I am not being sarcastic because the trend is obvious on how the domestic car company are trying to sell their so called " rally "+ "turbo" sport compacts in the market nowadays. :rolleyes: If you don't realize the impact that the Subaru WRX have made in the car industry; you are not so observant. Late. :disco: [/B][/QUOTE]
^-- psst you didn't say anything
Silly me, I forgot that the SRT-4 was the first time that Dodge has ever done a 4 cyl with a turbo :rolleyes: . Name a single "rally + turbo" car from a domestic manufacturer? They have an SRT4 rally car, which doesn't run in the WRC, and they don't market it here as a rally car. There's a Focus rally car, which also isn't marketed as a rally car, and isn't turbo. Neither of these cars are AWD.
The WRX changed things and we almost certainly wouldn't have the Evo and thus the STi without it. blah blah blah that doesn't even remotely prove any rally "trend" from domestic manufacturers. Don't pretend like you're some rally O.G. who is annoyed that his flava has gone mainstream, especially when it hasn't :)
-bd
[B]Yeah, what he said. And no I am not being sarcastic because the trend is obvious on how the domestic car company are trying to sell their so called " rally "+ "turbo" sport compacts in the market nowadays. :rolleyes: If you don't realize the impact that the Subaru WRX have made in the car industry; you are not so observant. Late. :disco: [/B][/QUOTE]
^-- psst you didn't say anything
Silly me, I forgot that the SRT-4 was the first time that Dodge has ever done a 4 cyl with a turbo :rolleyes: . Name a single "rally + turbo" car from a domestic manufacturer? They have an SRT4 rally car, which doesn't run in the WRC, and they don't market it here as a rally car. There's a Focus rally car, which also isn't marketed as a rally car, and isn't turbo. Neither of these cars are AWD.
The WRX changed things and we almost certainly wouldn't have the Evo and thus the STi without it. blah blah blah that doesn't even remotely prove any rally "trend" from domestic manufacturers. Don't pretend like you're some rally O.G. who is annoyed that his flava has gone mainstream, especially when it hasn't :)
-bd
| Turbo X | 07-08-2003 10:44 PM |
O K, Mr. Buttdyno, I guess we see things differently in a different perspective but I value your info on the WRC car and such. BTW, I never intended to be or said that I am the rally O.G. here on board, I am just expressing the way on how I see the WRX have affect the car industry, and sorry for saying nothing! Rally O.G... :)
| gjhsu | 07-09-2003 12:54 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]
still.. it's only FWD... :lol:
Ford = teh stupid for not making a nice AWD Focus..... :) [/B][/QUOTE]
Enter the Focus Cosworth... I wouldn't mind one of those sitting next to my WRX.... oh, and throw in an Evo, too :D
[B]
still.. it's only FWD... :lol:
Ford = teh stupid for not making a nice AWD Focus..... :) [/B][/QUOTE]
Enter the Focus Cosworth... I wouldn't mind one of those sitting next to my WRX.... oh, and throw in an Evo, too :D
| compfool | 07-09-2003 09:57 AM |
I read somewhere that Ford is going to release an AWD focus under their SVT line-up.
Just passing around the gossip.
Just passing around the gossip.
| aov | 07-09-2003 12:14 PM |
If 4cyl + turbo equals rallying and the manufacturers are making such cars, how is that bad? I have seen some r|ce'ish cars with Subaru scoops and wings, but I don't think that they are aware they are copying a rally style, they are just trying to be 'different'...
The rumor is that Ford is making a Focus Cosworth with 4wd, and it will possibly outperform the EVO and STi... at least in Europe.
-anders
The rumor is that Ford is making a Focus Cosworth with 4wd, and it will possibly outperform the EVO and STi... at least in Europe.
-anders
| Adiliyo | 07-09-2003 12:39 PM |
i also don't know how much rally infulence the ricers are using...most of the cars i see around here, still look pretty normally rice (altezzas, big gt wings..etc)...doesn't really bother me, still better to have real rally influence than to look like you do...and when i see someone with the wing with the vertical slats, i will laugh my ass of...."so, how many times have you driven this car sideways?" :lol:
| Turbo X | 07-09-2003 08:52 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aov [/i]
[B]
The rumor is that Ford is making a Focus Cosworth with 4wd, and it will possibly outperform the EVO and STi... at least in Europe.
-anders [/B][/QUOTE]
:eek: Wow, that's somthing new. Any more info/spec on the Focus Cosworth with AWD? I am curious on how the package with the new Focus can actually compete/ outperform the STI and the EVO... Thankx.
[B]
The rumor is that Ford is making a Focus Cosworth with 4wd, and it will possibly outperform the EVO and STi... at least in Europe.
-anders [/B][/QUOTE]
:eek: Wow, that's somthing new. Any more info/spec on the Focus Cosworth with AWD? I am curious on how the package with the new Focus can actually compete/ outperform the STI and the EVO... Thankx.
| Roy Lin | 07-09-2003 10:55 PM |
Rally IS the new ricer trend... Rally Racing is just getting popular in general, thanks in part to the buzz started by car magazines begging for the WRX and Evo, and games like GT3.
When GT3 came out a number of years ago, i only played the rally stages. It was just so much more exciting and fun.
Now, as a 18 year old asian american male, i have a WRX. But, haha it's bone stock, and until i've got something under the hood, i'm gonna forego underspoilers, wings, body kits, etc. I intend on being the only "rice boy" who takes his car to SCCA events.
I think the rice culture is borne naturally out of inferiority complexes that develop when a race is underrepresented and ignored. Hence, just like African American youth rebel by un purposely using bad grammar and syntax (lest they want to be "white washed") Asian American youth are guided by some unholy force to slap gigantic alumnium wings onto their civics, or in some cases, blow all their money on engine swaps, custom turbo kits and blah blah blah. Just like all black youth dress in a particular style and talk a particular way to create common superficialities and comraderie, Asian Americans do the same with their cars. "I'm a Rebel! i got my civic painted ugly spearmint blue!"
It's no longer an asian american only thing but...
Someone, please save my ethnic group! :(
When GT3 came out a number of years ago, i only played the rally stages. It was just so much more exciting and fun.
Now, as a 18 year old asian american male, i have a WRX. But, haha it's bone stock, and until i've got something under the hood, i'm gonna forego underspoilers, wings, body kits, etc. I intend on being the only "rice boy" who takes his car to SCCA events.
I think the rice culture is borne naturally out of inferiority complexes that develop when a race is underrepresented and ignored. Hence, just like African American youth rebel by un purposely using bad grammar and syntax (lest they want to be "white washed") Asian American youth are guided by some unholy force to slap gigantic alumnium wings onto their civics, or in some cases, blow all their money on engine swaps, custom turbo kits and blah blah blah. Just like all black youth dress in a particular style and talk a particular way to create common superficialities and comraderie, Asian Americans do the same with their cars. "I'm a Rebel! i got my civic painted ugly spearmint blue!"
It's no longer an asian american only thing but...
Someone, please save my ethnic group! :(
| SubSonic | 07-09-2003 11:54 PM |
Ford Focus COSWORTH..
AWD
Turbo Zetec Four
300HP!
6 Speed Tranny
Big intercooler
Hits European showrooms 2005
Source: Sport compact car mag Aug 2003 issue :disco:
AWD
Turbo Zetec Four
300HP!
6 Speed Tranny
Big intercooler
Hits European showrooms 2005
Source: Sport compact car mag Aug 2003 issue :disco:
| Recce01 | 07-10-2003 12:11 PM |
rally/style
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OK, this a subject that I am more than passionate about, so much in fact, that we started a car club based around the sport and the theories behind it "gravel crew" . We are all about everything the average ricer is not. The average ricer is confused and is not concerned about the basis of transportation. The idea behind any vehicle is to get you from point A to point B, comfortably, and effeciently. We dont lower our cars......what's the point? Where we live there are speed bumps dips, driveways, and construction sites. Most of the ricers I see lead me to believe that they live at Laguna Seca, back out of their drive way on to the track, take 10 laps to work and 10 laps home. Instead they are like a virus for the rest of the fast paced individuals, slowing us down all day long. I am tired of waiting for some jacka$$ to turn his car sideways through every obsticle he faces...again, what's the point? Maybe it's all the attention from the teenie boppers. Don't get me wrong, I have all the respect in the world for those guys who spend all their time building a beautiful show vehicle, but I cant stand that beat down civic that looks like it caught fire and the front and rear bumpers melted into some ARTISTIC CREATION........further slowing him down. Personally...I like to charge it, dirt, street, construction zone what ever the world may throw at me. I do it fast, and comfortably all behind the wheel of my beloved wrx.....if you are tired of asking your pregnant girlfriend to get out of your car and push it off the speed bump check out the "gravel crew''!!!
Scott G.
[url]www.gravelcrew.com[/url]
:devil:
Scott G.
[url]www.gravelcrew.com[/url]
:devil:
| KC | 07-10-2003 01:33 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ButtDyno [/i]
[B]Silly me, I forgot that the SRT-4 was the first time that Dodge has ever done a 4 cyl with a turbo :rolleyes: . Name a single "rally + turbo" car from a domestic manufacturer?[/B][/QUOTE]Sarcasm, right? :D
Just making sure. ;)
Omni GLH Turbo/Dodge Colt/Mitsu Colt (Was a rally car)
Aries Turbo
Dodge Conquest/Mitsu Starion
Heck, even a Turbo 4-Cyl AWD Minivan.
Just in case it wasn't Sarcasm. :huh:
[B]Silly me, I forgot that the SRT-4 was the first time that Dodge has ever done a 4 cyl with a turbo :rolleyes: . Name a single "rally + turbo" car from a domestic manufacturer?[/B][/QUOTE]Sarcasm, right? :D
Just making sure. ;)
Omni GLH Turbo/Dodge Colt/Mitsu Colt (Was a rally car)
Aries Turbo
Dodge Conquest/Mitsu Starion
Heck, even a Turbo 4-Cyl AWD Minivan.
Just in case it wasn't Sarcasm. :huh:
| Shinji N | 07-10-2003 01:40 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ButtDyno [/i]
[B]
The WRX changed things
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
*AHEM* *AHEM* [b]*AHEM*[/b]
[B]
The WRX changed things
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
*AHEM* *AHEM* [b]*AHEM*[/b]
| Butt Dyno | 07-10-2003 02:23 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC [/i]
[B]Sarcasm, right? :D
Just making sure. ;)
Omni GLH Turbo/Dodge Colt/Mitsu Colt (Was a rally car)
Aries Turbo
Dodge Conquest/Mitsu Starion
Heck, even a Turbo 4-Cyl AWD Minivan.
Just in case it wasn't Sarcasm. :huh: [/B][/QUOTE]Yes sarcasm, fear not :)
There is a local guy who autoxs a crazy Omni. And my dad had a Daytona, although he didn't have the turbo one.
edit: and the "name a turbo rally car from a domestic manufacturer" meant "name one currently being produced" - i.e. there is no trend, because there aren't any (discussed above)
-bd
[B]Sarcasm, right? :D
Just making sure. ;)
Omni GLH Turbo/Dodge Colt/Mitsu Colt (Was a rally car)
Aries Turbo
Dodge Conquest/Mitsu Starion
Heck, even a Turbo 4-Cyl AWD Minivan.
Just in case it wasn't Sarcasm. :huh: [/B][/QUOTE]Yes sarcasm, fear not :)
There is a local guy who autoxs a crazy Omni. And my dad had a Daytona, although he didn't have the turbo one.
edit: and the "name a turbo rally car from a domestic manufacturer" meant "name one currently being produced" - i.e. there is no trend, because there aren't any (discussed above)
-bd
| Foxy | 07-10-2003 02:25 PM |
[b]Someone, please save my ethnic group! [/b]
Ok, I'm only half Japanese, so maybe I am lacking the proper perspective, but, why oh why couldn't the Asians have remained associated with 4.0 GPA's and unholy obsessions about electronics instead of fugly coffee can exhausts? :)
Ok, I'm only half Japanese, so maybe I am lacking the proper perspective, but, why oh why couldn't the Asians have remained associated with 4.0 GPA's and unholy obsessions about electronics instead of fugly coffee can exhausts? :)
| Butt Dyno | 07-10-2003 02:28 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinji N [/i]
[B]*AHEM* *AHEM* [b]*AHEM*[/b] [/B][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/production/production.html[/url]
I think you'd have a hard time proving that the sales of the GC8-styled Imprezas is what inspired SOA to bring the WRX here... that's why I said what I said. Remember, there are no more Impreza coupes in the US...
-bd
[B]*AHEM* *AHEM* [b]*AHEM*[/b] [/B][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/production/production.html[/url]
I think you'd have a hard time proving that the sales of the GC8-styled Imprezas is what inspired SOA to bring the WRX here... that's why I said what I said. Remember, there are no more Impreza coupes in the US...
-bd
| gjhsu | 07-10-2003 03:10 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinji N [/i]
[B]
*AHEM* *AHEM* [b]*AHEM*[/b] [/B][/QUOTE]
As I like to say in humor and pure elitist style, "No, stupid, there was no Subaru before the WRX!!" :lol: :banana:
[B]
*AHEM* *AHEM* [b]*AHEM*[/b] [/B][/QUOTE]
As I like to say in humor and pure elitist style, "No, stupid, there was no Subaru before the WRX!!" :lol: :banana:
| Turbo X | 07-10-2003 08:58 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ButtDyno [/i]
[B]
[url]http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/production/production.html[/url]
I think you'd have a hard time proving that the sales of the GC8-styled Imprezas is what inspired SOA to bring the WRX here... that's why I said what I said. Remember, there are no more Impreza coupes in the US...
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm, I don't think I am gonna have a hard time proving that the sales of the WRX actually leads the 2.5 STI and the LAN EVO to come over sea. :banana:
[B]
[url]http://www.northursalia.com/techdocs/production/production.html[/url]
I think you'd have a hard time proving that the sales of the GC8-styled Imprezas is what inspired SOA to bring the WRX here... that's why I said what I said. Remember, there are no more Impreza coupes in the US...
-bd [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm, I don't think I am gonna have a hard time proving that the sales of the WRX actually leads the 2.5 STI and the LAN EVO to come over sea. :banana:
| UKscooby | 07-10-2003 10:04 PM |
More import versus domestic arguments. Least its not at the drag strip this time. ;)
Regarding the Focus, heres what i think. It will be realesed in Europe, will be the full blown version, probably kicking everybodies butt, as Ford did when they teamed with Cosworth 18ish years ago.
(Ford used to kill GM, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Isuzu, Lancer (the Italian company) in the British market. Cossies were untouchable. 500bhp was fairly easy on standard engine internals.)
Focus will be released in the US some months later, wussy version, because we cant have a 4 banger out performing the Ford flagship sports car, the Mustang.
Incedently, to give you an idea of what im talking about, remember the Merkur XR4Ti ?- well thats an Americanised European Ford Sierra XR4x4, basically what the original British Cossies were built around. Those blew away Subarus in the early days.
Ps, im NOT a Ford fan!! :lol: I had a GM Vauxhall Cavalier 4x4 Turbo :disco: No match for my Scoobie, but quick in its day. 204bhp, 0-60 6.2secs.
Regarding the Focus, heres what i think. It will be realesed in Europe, will be the full blown version, probably kicking everybodies butt, as Ford did when they teamed with Cosworth 18ish years ago.
(Ford used to kill GM, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Isuzu, Lancer (the Italian company) in the British market. Cossies were untouchable. 500bhp was fairly easy on standard engine internals.)
Focus will be released in the US some months later, wussy version, because we cant have a 4 banger out performing the Ford flagship sports car, the Mustang.
Incedently, to give you an idea of what im talking about, remember the Merkur XR4Ti ?- well thats an Americanised European Ford Sierra XR4x4, basically what the original British Cossies were built around. Those blew away Subarus in the early days.
Ps, im NOT a Ford fan!! :lol: I had a GM Vauxhall Cavalier 4x4 Turbo :disco: No match for my Scoobie, but quick in its day. 204bhp, 0-60 6.2secs.
| VITEKi | 07-11-2003 02:56 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]
still.. it's only FWD... :lol:
Ford = teh stupid for not making a nice AWD Focus..... :) [/B][/QUOTE]
the FOCUS rs is all wheel drive turbo you will see some soon on US streats by mid 04 price will be close to the new STI it will have a cosworth motor pushing over 300 hp
[B]
still.. it's only FWD... :lol:
Ford = teh stupid for not making a nice AWD Focus..... :) [/B][/QUOTE]
the FOCUS rs is all wheel drive turbo you will see some soon on US streats by mid 04 price will be close to the new STI it will have a cosworth motor pushing over 300 hp
| gjhsu | 07-11-2003 10:13 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by VITEKi [/i]
[B]
the FOCUS rs is all wheel drive turbo you will see some soon on US streats by mid 04 price will be close to the new STI it will have a cosworth motor pushing over 300 hp [/B][/QUOTE]
I thought the Focus RS was still FWD, just with an LSD thrown in there and a turbo. WHat I've heard, only the Cosworth is AWD.
[B]
the FOCUS rs is all wheel drive turbo you will see some soon on US streats by mid 04 price will be close to the new STI it will have a cosworth motor pushing over 300 hp [/B][/QUOTE]
I thought the Focus RS was still FWD, just with an LSD thrown in there and a turbo. WHat I've heard, only the Cosworth is AWD.
| cjbruce | 07-11-2003 03:55 PM |
[quote]PS- that Mazdaspeed protoge tried a little too hard too. 170hp turbo/intercooled? QMT = 15.6? [/quote]
You have to admit that Mazdaspeed Protege is a great little handling car though. The 170HP came as a result of consumer protests about the MP3 with only 140HP.
You have to admit that Mazdaspeed Protege is a great little handling car though. The 170HP came as a result of consumer protests about the MP3 with only 140HP.
| NoJive2.5 | 07-11-2003 05:50 PM |
Dodge is NOT ripping off of the WRX! They are ripping off of Mitsubishi, with whom they have been part sharing with for over a friggin decade. Why shouldn't dodge get a detuned fwd drive evo? Relax--most people still ask me: "What kind of car is that?" Our cars are still uniqe and always will be.
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