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Rally WRX Wagon starts to take shape part 1

Subie Gal 02-03-2003 09:29 AM
Rally WRX Wagon starts to take shape
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oiiii my hands hurt!! busy weekend...

interior is gutted, airbags removed, sparco steering wheel and seats installed, new sideview mirror installed, diff protector added, new weather stripping added in place of old melted one, new windshield trim, new roof trim.... yikes... need a nap :D

[img]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/2-2%20update/parts%20arrived.jpg[/img]

car is now cage ready!
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/2-2%20update/gutted1.jpg[/img]

new seat/wheel
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/2-2%20update/sparco%20seat%20installed2.jpg[/img]

still have a TON of work to do...
but it's getting there! :D

more pix on [url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
follow link from photo updates table...

tired... where's me coffee??? zzzzzzzzzzzz........
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]||#215 SCCA Rally
Bonzo 02-03-2003 09:35 AM
ahh but it's a good pain.

so exciting taking out the old and in with the new.

nice, and I'm green with envy:p
Martin Ritchie 02-03-2003 10:23 AM
Wow, this is going to be great! As a wagon owner I will be following your progress with great interest. Good on ya' Jamie.
:D
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 10:45 AM
3/16" alum diff protector from [url]www.get-primitive.com[/url]
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/2-2%20update/diff%20protector%20installed.jpg[/img]

i find it amazing how hot this car got in the fire it was exposed to..
this is a roof trim clip... had to remove them all by force! :eek:

[img]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/2-2%20update/roof%20trim%20clip%20melted.jpg[/img]

thanks for the feedback guys!
the next 2 weeks are going to be exciting...
and exhausting... :D

Jamie
mykrrrr 02-03-2003 12:35 PM
Gee Jamie...how did I know you were putting a blk/yel. Sparco wheel on. :lol:

-mykr.
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 12:41 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mykrrrr [/i]
[B]Gee Jamie...how did I know you were putting a blk/yel. Sparco wheel on. :lol:

-mykr. [/B][/QUOTE]


:D the yellow fun has just begun :D

Jamie
Dussander 02-03-2003 04:10 PM
Jamie,
Do you do all the work by yourself?
Oh, do us (the Motorsports forum) a big favor and weigh one of the stock front seats, please. Pretty please. :D
Good Luck!
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 04:50 PM
thus far yep...
my mechanic pal Mike and I have done all of the work on the car..

he handles the heavy stuff (drilling the seat rails, mangling them into place, wiring up the elec. stuff)

and i jump in there as best i can... removed steering wheel, airbag, roof rails, repaired trim, swapped bumpers, lights etc.

it's not all that hard once u figure out how the stuff comes apart :D

seats...
which one do you want me to weigh?
the drivers side is DECIDEDLY heavier than the pass side.

Jamie
Dussander 02-03-2003 04:56 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about the extra weight in the driver side. Driver side please. I need to figure out if it's worth the price to lose the extra weight in my car. I'm sure many other STX drivers will be interested as well.
Thanks Jamie. Best of Luck this year.
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 04:58 PM
thanks :)

i'll do that tonight if i remember :D

it weighs a LOT. :eek:

jamie
Recce01 02-03-2003 05:15 PM
roll cage
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where's the tube work? who's going to do it for you?
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 05:29 PM
hmmmmmmmm
i wonder the same thing.
dave clark is supposed to do the cage for me again.

but...
his schedule seems kind of... hmmmmmmm
really i dont know... but it should get started this week!!!

or i'm gonna be very not happy....
Jamie
Eric SS 02-03-2003 05:48 PM
Looking good so far. How did you acquire the car? is it new?

Eric
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 05:52 PM
car has 3k miles on it.
new....

it had a salvage title and was found by a friend...
rebuilt title consisted of:
replacing melted lights
replacing melted bumpers

and it passed inspection :)
Jamie
Eric SS 02-03-2003 05:57 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]car has 3k miles on it.
new....

it had a salvage title and was found by a friend...
rebuilt title consisted of:
replacing melted lights
replacing melted bumpers

and it passed inspection :)
Jamie [/B][/QUOTE]

Right on. What did it cost as is if you don;t mind me asking?

Eric
peepshow 02-03-2003 05:57 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]or i'm gonna be very not happy....
Jamie [/B][/QUOTE]

[Incredible Hulk]
Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
[/Incredible Hulk]
:lol:

She's little, but she's fiesty!!!!

Wouldn't want ya mad at me, Jamie!;)

Glad to see the car is starting to take shape. Hang in there, you'll be ready for the season in no time.

I'm gonna try to make it to Susquehannock Trails and Ojibwe Forests this year. I'll definitely be at LSPR again. Hope to see you kickin' butt a couple of different times this year!

Good luck!

- Trent
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 05:59 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Eric v2.0 [/i]
[B]

Right on. What did it cost as is if you don;t mind me asking?

Eric [/B][/QUOTE]

wagon home page is here:
[url]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/rallywagon%20home.htm[/url]

specs, photo gallery, and repair costs are all listed.

:)
any questions just shout! :)
Jamie
paultg 02-03-2003 06:17 PM
What are you buying door handles for? Your not going to weld the doors shut and hope out the window like a favorite TV lady did with the General Lee? :lol:

Paul G.
Subie Gal 02-03-2003 06:18 PM
ERM... no... hehehee
i want my doors to open close in a normal fashion ;) hehehe

Jamie
Eric SS 02-03-2003 06:41 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]

wagon home page is here:
[url]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/rallywagon%20home.htm[/url]

specs, photo gallery, and repair costs are all listed.

:)
any questions just shout! :)
Jamie [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link. :)
Pretty good price
Eric
johnfelstead 02-03-2003 06:44 PM
Looking great Jamie!

Rally Blue Wagon :D

Poor Burnsie sure did get hot. :D
Ride Operator 02-03-2003 08:07 PM
Thanks for letting us all bare witness to the build-up, kinda cool. :)
MattDell 02-03-2003 08:59 PM
You should really ditch the roof rails.



When will the car be.. de-virginized? :D
mykrrrr 02-04-2003 05:59 AM
[QUOTE]You should really ditch the roof rails.[/QUOTE]
PGT rules mandate that they remain since they come stock.

I'm hoping to atleast make STPR so you'd better be there Jamie. :D

-mykr.
Rebellion 02-04-2003 08:25 AM
Jamie... what became of the old rally car?
ResQDawg3 02-04-2003 08:57 AM
What seat mounting brackets did you wind up using there Jamie? Did you get those ones that I told you about, the 2038 and 2039, or no? Just curious.....
Apisatrox 02-04-2003 09:53 AM
Found in older posts:


"the yellow car did sell...
it's going to Chicago... for about that price

new owner is Mike Anson - rally rookie but he can drive
he'll be fine!

that car would so rock in Gp2....
and yeah i think i did well against Mark Durley in his Focus...
the P car likely could have won Gp2 last year (region)
this is true....

it's going to be an excellent car for Mike!
congrats to him!!!
Jamie"
dwx 02-04-2003 10:18 AM
Mike was out having fun in the car this last weekend, he participated in a rallyx with it:

[IMG]http://www.kr4d.com/~phil/pics/rallyx/subiegal.jpg[/IMG]
fengshui-fu 02-04-2003 10:31 AM
Jamie

the steering wheel install looks great, but too bad you lose your cruise control capablilities (uneeded in a rally car, i know). So besides losing cruise control and air bag, you also lose the turn signal cancel, right? How hard is the Momo/Sparco adapter to put on? Does it need to be welded, or does it screw right on? Im curious since I would like to be able to swap back to stock if I happened to change it out. IMO, the stock wheel is too difficult to use in performance driving, autoX, etc... So im looking for a smaller radius. What size is that Sparco?

thanks

chris
Subie Gal 02-04-2003 10:47 AM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ResQDawg3 [/i]
[B]What seat mounting brackets did you wind up using there Jamie? Did you get those ones that I told you about, the 2038 and 2039, or no? Just curious..... [/B][/QUOTE]

yep i got the sparco wrx seat brackets.
they worked well although one of them was crooked from the factory and took mass muscle to get it bolted down into the car... shame it has to come back out in a day or 2 for the cage work!!!
:D

[quote][b]You should really ditch the roof rails.
[/b][/quote]
not permitted per the rules as the roof rails were not a factory option... they are standard on all wrx wagons, thus they remain. :)

[quote][b]Mike was out having fun in the car this last weekend, he participated in a rallyx with it[/b][/quote]
awesome!! mud makes that little rally beastie happy :D


[quote][b]...So besides losing cruise control and air bag, you also lose the turn signal cancel, right? How hard is the Momo/Sparco adapter to put on? Does it need to be welded, or does it screw right on? Im curious since I would like to be able to swap back to stock if I happened to change it out. IMO, the stock wheel is too difficult to use in performance driving, autoX, etc... So im looking for a smaller radius. What size is that Sparco? [/b][/quote]

Yes you lose cruise and turn signal cancel - also horn (have to re wire)

the adapter is cake to put in... just look at the photos...
took me 15 min tops....the MOMO hub adapter slips right into place. no welding needed.

the sparco colour2 steering wheel is a 350mm diameter...

fwiw?
in my RS i have the same set up... yet i've retained cruise, horn and turn signal cancels. i had someone machine the hell out of the hub to work though and it was a LOT of work to get it right.

cheers all, thanks for the support!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]||#215 SCCA Rally
fengshui-fu 02-04-2003 10:55 AM
thanks for the info and good luck with it. I expect to see it sideways in alot of pictures now!!! hope you make it to STPR so I can see it in action. One question about the radio systems used in prorally. What radios are used when drivers talk to their service park crew? Just curious, cause I want to pick up a scanner to monitor all the action.

chris
Subie Gal 02-04-2003 11:03 AM
we use 2 way hand helds...
some of the manufacture teams use items which are much more sophisticated... not sure exactly what radio band they're on.

:)
Jamie
bgsntth 02-05-2003 12:59 PM
Great story brewing Subiegal!

One question: Does the lower grill impede airflow, which may lead to overheating and/or loss of pressured air into the air intake? I really want to protect my radiator, but have had bad experiences with aftermarket grills and overheating on other cars.

One comment: Now I truly understand why post-production paint jobs are never as good as the original manufacturer's-unless all the plastic bits are removed before the paint gets baked.

I'm very jealous btw....
Subie Gal 02-05-2003 01:01 PM
the lower mesh grill?
oh i doubt that... i'm just putting it on to keep random bits from impaling the radiator... not that it will stop a *cough* stump *cough* but it may help somewhat while allowing air to pass through for cooling purposes...

:)

thanks for the compliments.
Jamie
fengshui-fu 02-05-2003 01:05 PM
trashed radiators are a good way to retire from a competition. Im surprised there arent some better way to protect them from the common obstacle or low speed 1/4 angle shot.

chris
AndyRoo 02-05-2003 04:26 PM
Ripping apart a car looks like sooooo much fun.

It's looking pretty good already. Good luck!
Subie Gal 02-05-2003 04:31 PM
well i dunno about fun...
i guess it can be fun in a way... ;)

i felt kinda bad ripping up a brand new car...
oh well :D i'll get over it... ;)

Jamie
Rally1 02-05-2003 05:02 PM
*books flight to WA to help out*


looks like a great project. now all we need is a STi wagon, and I will be happy.
Adrian128 02-05-2003 10:39 PM
Looks very good.. but doesn't ther roll cage get welded in first? Or are you going to use a bolt on cage? :)
Subie Gal 02-06-2003 11:17 AM
spent a good portion of last night removing the center console, the complete dash (down to the wiring harness and support beam) and any other bits from the car...

the welding of the cage is in progress as of today!

hopefully by mon/tues we'll be finished.
i'll keep you all posted....

per the new scca rules, it's my understanding that bolt in cages are not legal.... the cage rules are very, very specific.

:)
thanks for the support!

Jamie
igor 02-06-2003 04:59 PM
FIA or SCCA?
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Are you building an FIA or an SCCA-spec cage?

The memos leading up to this year's rule changes suggesting that FIA spec cages would be subject to the no-bolt-in-extra-gussets rules, but as far as I see, none of those memos made it into the '03 rulebook, which just says, "if if's FIA, it's good"

The FIA cage spec is generally tons more flexible than the SCCA spec.

-jeff
Subie Gal 02-06-2003 05:24 PM
the cage would be fia or scca legal.
built by a builder who's been in the business forEVER...
he really knows his stuff....

as he's also an SCCA scrutineer, i'm pretty sure it will pass tech ;)

Jamie :lol:
MattDell 02-06-2003 06:57 PM
So what kind of wheels are you putting on the beast?
Subie Gal 02-07-2003 09:29 AM
funny you should ask that....
look what just arrived :D

[img]http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/wrx%20wagon/wagon%20cage-wheels/speedlines2.jpg[/img]

think they'll do the job? :D

check the site... i've added a few more pix... ;)
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
[COLOR=blue]Home of the Rally Wagon - 2003![/COLOR]
prost893 02-07-2003 01:55 PM
Re: FIA or SCCA?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by igor [/i]
[B]The FIA cage spec is generally tons more flexible than the SCCA spec.[/B][/QUOTE]

HAHA! :lol: That's a pretty good one Jeff! Sorry, couldn't resist since I am guessing you meant it was more versitle.
Kilalee 02-07-2003 02:06 PM
ummmmmmm.....my favorite set of wheels...
This is gonna be awsome, you are now offically my hero!;)
Subie Gal 02-07-2003 02:09 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kilalee [/i]
[B]ummmmmmm.....my favorite set of wheels...
This is gonna be awsome, you are now offically my hero!;) [/B][/QUOTE]


awwwwwww thanks... :D ;)

J.
Dussander 02-07-2003 04:44 PM
Jamie,
How far can you get on 1 set of tires? (Events, legs??)
Oh, and did you get to weigh the front driver seat yet? :)
Subie Gal 02-07-2003 05:02 PM
how far can i get? unsure as i've not blasted this car just yet...

on the FWDriver... i needed a new set every day! :lol:

maybe these wont be as bad...
and perhaps the AWD will make it even worse!

*need 4 tires every day!~*

i'll weigh the seat, i forgot!!! :)
Jamie
MattDell 02-07-2003 05:41 PM
Wait, your L was FWD?
Subie Gal 02-07-2003 06:04 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cobreth [/i]
[B]Wait, your L was FWD? [/B][/QUOTE]

yep.
110hp... 110/ft lbs torque... :D

go go put put Rooo :D
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