| Ferg | 06-15-2006 12:40 PM |
Solberg Signs with Subaru until 2009..
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I had no idea he was such a masochist.
[QUOTE][B]Solberg set to stay at Subaru
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By David Evans Thursday, June 15th 2006, 15:06 GMT
Former World Rally Champion Petter Solberg has signed to remain with the Subaru World Rally Team until 2009, according to this week's Autosport.
The move ends speculation that the Norwegian was set to move away from the Banbury-based team.
The team's worst start to a world championship campaign in four years has unsettled the 31-year-old, but an upturn in performance on the recent Acropolis Rally is believed to have convinced Solberg to remain with the team.
Solberg left Ford and joined Subaru for the final four rallies of 2000. Since then he has won 13 events and the 2003 driver's title. Latterly, however, that success has dried up and Solberg hasn't won an event on pace alone since the Rally Mexico in March last year.
An announcement on Solberg's three-year deal was expected this week, after negotiations were said to have been concluded during the recent Acropolis Rally in Greece.
The team declined to comment on their 2007 driver line-up ahead of any official statement, but sources close to Solberg confirmed contracts had already been exchanged.
Despite being heartened by the progress the team made during the last rally, when Solberg battled for the lead during the opening leg of the Acropolis, he admitted there was still work to do on the car before he could sustain a position at the head of the leaderboard.
"Everybody has to remain focused on what we are doing, that's really important for the future," said Solberg, who was unavailable for comment on his decision to remain in Impreza WRC for the next three years. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Solberg set to stay at Subaru
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By David Evans Thursday, June 15th 2006, 15:06 GMT
Former World Rally Champion Petter Solberg has signed to remain with the Subaru World Rally Team until 2009, according to this week's Autosport.
The move ends speculation that the Norwegian was set to move away from the Banbury-based team.
The team's worst start to a world championship campaign in four years has unsettled the 31-year-old, but an upturn in performance on the recent Acropolis Rally is believed to have convinced Solberg to remain with the team.
Solberg left Ford and joined Subaru for the final four rallies of 2000. Since then he has won 13 events and the 2003 driver's title. Latterly, however, that success has dried up and Solberg hasn't won an event on pace alone since the Rally Mexico in March last year.
An announcement on Solberg's three-year deal was expected this week, after negotiations were said to have been concluded during the recent Acropolis Rally in Greece.
The team declined to comment on their 2007 driver line-up ahead of any official statement, but sources close to Solberg confirmed contracts had already been exchanged.
Despite being heartened by the progress the team made during the last rally, when Solberg battled for the lead during the opening leg of the Acropolis, he admitted there was still work to do on the car before he could sustain a position at the head of the leaderboard.
"Everybody has to remain focused on what we are doing, that's really important for the future," said Solberg, who was unavailable for comment on his decision to remain in Impreza WRC for the next three years. [/QUOTE]
| 10th Warrior | 06-15-2006 01:12 PM |
and, on an unrelated note, Subaru kicks Pirelli to the curb :) *sigh*
| WagonMonster | 06-15-2006 01:18 PM |
That's great news!
Petter must know something we don't know.
Petter must know something we don't know.
| roofis | 06-15-2006 01:24 PM |
with all this "yeah we still have work to do to the car & bugs to fix" talk, they sound like an amateur team talking to OLN or something... it's almost embarrasing that a team with thier budget on their level can't prevent the paddle shifters from falling off, or reroute the ps lines to a place where they won't get torn out, and so on. in the least, if they can pull a contract with bfg, i think that'd be a huge plus in their favor. hopefully SWRT & Petter get everything ironed out.
| 10th Warrior | 06-15-2006 01:37 PM |
[quote]Petter must know something we don't know.[/quote]
hopefully, but the pessimist in me says Ford and Citroen aren't hiring ;)
hopefully, but the pessimist in me says Ford and Citroen aren't hiring ;)
| Kitsune | 06-15-2006 02:22 PM |
I think Solberg bailed on Ford to go to Subaru, so they are probably not keen on hiring him back and Citroen has their golden boy already.
| RB5 Clone | 06-15-2006 02:26 PM |
Petter's crew has finally solved their Pirelli tire problems -- starting in 2007, they are running BFG rubber with Pirelli decals
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| FaastLegacy | 06-15-2006 02:26 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]hopefully, but the pessimist in me says Ford and Citroen aren't hiring ;)[/QUOTE]
Exactly! I don't know that it's so much that he wants to remain at Subaru, so much as it is lack of options. That's just speculation, but if he resigned from Subaru, where's he going to go?
Exactly! I don't know that it's so much that he wants to remain at Subaru, so much as it is lack of options. That's just speculation, but if he resigned from Subaru, where's he going to go?
| RB5 Clone | 06-15-2006 02:28 PM |
[QUOTE=FaastLegacy]Exactly! I don't know that it's so much that he wants to remain at Subaru, so much as it is lack of options. That's just speculation, but if he resigned from Subaru, where's he going to go?[/QUOTE]
he could quit rallying and become a dorifta?
he could quit rallying and become a dorifta?
| WOOKIE101010101 | 06-15-2006 02:37 PM |
[QUOTE=FaastLegacy]Exactly! I don't know that it's so much that he wants to remain at Subaru, so much as it is lack of options. That's just speculation, but if he resigned from Subaru, where's he going to go?[/QUOTE]
There were rumors that his agent had lined up two years worth of sponsorship totalling 46 million a year.
He was close supposedly to going 100% privateer...
Let us not forget that DR is back at the helm, what 10 days before this happened.
But the skeptic in me has to ask... Has Subaru signed a new contract with Prodrive to operate the SWRT?
There were rumors that his agent had lined up two years worth of sponsorship totalling 46 million a year.
He was close supposedly to going 100% privateer...
Let us not forget that DR is back at the helm, what 10 days before this happened.
But the skeptic in me has to ask... Has Subaru signed a new contract with Prodrive to operate the SWRT?
| WRXedUSA | 06-15-2006 03:18 PM |
As being one of the few paid WRC drivers, he better stay close to the watering hole.
| DrBiggly | 06-15-2006 04:54 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]and, on an unrelated note, Subaru kicks Pirelli to the curb :) *sigh*[/QUOTE]
Is this confirmed or just speculative?
-Biggly
Is this confirmed or just speculative?
-Biggly
| 10th Warrior | 06-15-2006 04:56 PM |
its wishful thinking :)
| Lethargic1 | 06-15-2006 06:14 PM |
I'm both surprised by this, and yet not really. When he's being interviewed, he almost sounds confused, like he doesn't know what the hell is going on with his own crew. I found it kind of weird that he broke the paddle shifter. Are they that fragile? :confused:
By the way, here is a good site to see some of the rallys, good quality videos as well. [URL=http://rally.stanis.info/]Click me[/URL]
By the way, here is a good site to see some of the rallys, good quality videos as well. [URL=http://rally.stanis.info/]Click me[/URL]
| davis10 | 06-15-2006 06:29 PM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]and, on an unrelated note, Subaru kicks Pirelli to the curb :) *sigh*[/QUOTE]
they really need to since they dont take their rally program seriously enough for subaru :mad:
they really need to since they dont take their rally program seriously enough for subaru :mad:
| WOOKIE101010101 | 06-15-2006 07:09 PM |
[QUOTE=davis10]they really need to since they dont take their rally program seriously enough for subaru :mad:[/QUOTE]
Rumor Mill is churning out Gali to Subaru w/ extra Pirelli sponsorship funds.
Rumor Mill is churning out Gali to Subaru w/ extra Pirelli sponsorship funds.
| Ferg | 06-15-2006 07:52 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]Rumor Mill is churning out Gali to Subaru w/ extra Pirelli sponsorship funds.[/QUOTE]
It'll be a privateer effort if IIRC, and only for three or four rallies.
As for the Pirelli rumors, the last thing I read was a while ago so it may have changed..
[QUOTE]Pirelli to quit unless Michelin returns
By David Evans Thursday, May 25th 2006, 12:31 GMT
Pirelli Motorsport director Paul Hembrey has confirmed that it will withdraw from the WRC at the end of 2006 if rival Michelin does not return to the sport, according to this week's Autosport.
Michelin's presence in the WRC was re-branded BF Goodrich at the start of the season, in a move which angered its Italian rivals.
"If they race in 2007 as BF Goodrich then we will push out and push for a control tyre the following season," said Hembrey. "If they compete as Michelin we will remain in the WRC."
Aime Chatard, BF Goodrich's rally manager, was surprised at Hembrey's statement, saying: "BF Goodrich has a three-year commitment to the WRC. I would prefer it if Pirelli tell us this kind of thing rather than telling the press."
Subaru is the only top team which would be affected by a Pirelli withdrawal.
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It'll be a privateer effort if IIRC, and only for three or four rallies.
As for the Pirelli rumors, the last thing I read was a while ago so it may have changed..
[QUOTE]Pirelli to quit unless Michelin returns
By David Evans Thursday, May 25th 2006, 12:31 GMT
Pirelli Motorsport director Paul Hembrey has confirmed that it will withdraw from the WRC at the end of 2006 if rival Michelin does not return to the sport, according to this week's Autosport.
Michelin's presence in the WRC was re-branded BF Goodrich at the start of the season, in a move which angered its Italian rivals.
"If they race in 2007 as BF Goodrich then we will push out and push for a control tyre the following season," said Hembrey. "If they compete as Michelin we will remain in the WRC."
Aime Chatard, BF Goodrich's rally manager, was surprised at Hembrey's statement, saying: "BF Goodrich has a three-year commitment to the WRC. I would prefer it if Pirelli tell us this kind of thing rather than telling the press."
Subaru is the only top team which would be affected by a Pirelli withdrawal.
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| WRXedUSA | 06-15-2006 08:12 PM |
Ah Euro-fighting. Aint it cute!
| So Cal STI | 06-15-2006 08:24 PM |
As for the Pirelli rumors, the last thing I read was a while ago so it may have changed..[/QUOTE]
I thought that the reason BFG is in rally because Michlien was pulling out of WRC to consentrate on other series of racing? Plus, is'nt BFG owned by Michelin anyway?
I thought that the reason BFG is in rally because Michlien was pulling out of WRC to consentrate on other series of racing? Plus, is'nt BFG owned by Michelin anyway?
| WOOKIE101010101 | 06-15-2006 09:11 PM |
[QUOTE=So Cal STI]As for the Pirelli rumors, the last thing I read was a while ago so it may have changed..[/QUOTE]
I thought that the reason BFG is in rally because Michlien was pulling out of WRC to consentrate on other series of racing? Plus, is'nt BFG owned by Michelin anyway?[/QUOTE]
Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...
I thought that the reason BFG is in rally because Michlien was pulling out of WRC to consentrate on other series of racing? Plus, is'nt BFG owned by Michelin anyway?[/QUOTE]
Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...
| Chromer | 06-15-2006 09:37 PM |
Michelin's "new" brand strategies have BFG as the off-road and truck tires, Michelin as on-road. Rally was the only competition series Michelin for "off-road" duty, so they re-branded them as BFG's going forward to lump the marketing in with the Baja, Raid, SCORE, etc. racing efforts.
Who is Mitsu going to have for '07 and '08? They're back next season, aren't they?
I don't get Pirelli's beef, unless they're trying to lever a better deal from Subaru/Prodrive. Must be expensive to be developing tires with only one major team as a customer.
Who is Mitsu going to have for '07 and '08? They're back next season, aren't they?
I don't get Pirelli's beef, unless they're trying to lever a better deal from Subaru/Prodrive. Must be expensive to be developing tires with only one major team as a customer.
| Boxologist | 06-15-2006 10:50 PM |
Prodrive's biggest problem was the tyres. The car is reliable. If go back and watch how Solberg breaks the paddle shifter, u'd have wished Phil Mills would have decked him on the spot. Petter came down with his hand from teh roof of teh car onto the shifter.
the probem on the team, 2004, 2005, and 2006 is a SWRT problem. If u go back over teh rosters from the mid 90s, u can see the drivers they select and when they do well. SWRT SHOULD know who go and sign for the second seat or as a team/driver technical analyst, but since they have not gone that route, or have not been successful(cheapskates) in getting someone who can bring the team back up championship level.
And even then, they are not beating Loeb in a Xsarra. get over it :)
the probem on the team, 2004, 2005, and 2006 is a SWRT problem. If u go back over teh rosters from the mid 90s, u can see the drivers they select and when they do well. SWRT SHOULD know who go and sign for the second seat or as a team/driver technical analyst, but since they have not gone that route, or have not been successful(cheapskates) in getting someone who can bring the team back up championship level.
And even then, they are not beating Loeb in a Xsarra. get over it :)
| Lethargic1 | 06-15-2006 11:30 PM |
[QUOTE=Boxologist]Prodrive's biggest problem was the tyres. The car is reliable. If go back and watch how Solberg breaks the paddle shifter, u'd have wished Phil Mills would have decked him on the spot. Petter came down with his hand from teh roof of teh car onto the shifter.
the probem on the team, 2004, 2005, and 2006 is a SWRT problem. If u go back over teh rosters from the mid 90s, u can see the drivers they select and when they do well. SWRT SHOULD know who go and sign for the second seat or as a team/driver technical analyst, but since they have not gone that route, or have not been successful(cheapskates) in getting someone who can bring the team back up championship level.
And even then, they are not beating Loeb in a Xsarra. get over it :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the way he came down on the shifter, it just made me kind of go :confused: . Talk about bad luck. You could tell that Solberg was at a complete loss for words when he hit the rock to avoid colliding with the car on the road section.
Loeb is a maniac behind the wheel, and he is amazing to watch. The Acropolis rally was very interesting.
the probem on the team, 2004, 2005, and 2006 is a SWRT problem. If u go back over teh rosters from the mid 90s, u can see the drivers they select and when they do well. SWRT SHOULD know who go and sign for the second seat or as a team/driver technical analyst, but since they have not gone that route, or have not been successful(cheapskates) in getting someone who can bring the team back up championship level.
And even then, they are not beating Loeb in a Xsarra. get over it :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the way he came down on the shifter, it just made me kind of go :confused: . Talk about bad luck. You could tell that Solberg was at a complete loss for words when he hit the rock to avoid colliding with the car on the road section.
Loeb is a maniac behind the wheel, and he is amazing to watch. The Acropolis rally was very interesting.
| datageek | 06-16-2006 11:00 AM |
[QUOTE=Boxologist]Prodrive's biggest problem was the tyres. The car is reliable. [/QUOTE]
Uh... Which 2006 WRC season are you watching? Yours sounds much more interesting than mine. The one I've seen includes a brand new engine failing on the first day, the driveshaft breaking on the first stage, bolts falling out of the power steering, the alternator failing, the paddle shifter breaking (twice!)... And that's just some of the problems on Petter's car. I get lost keeping sorted which of the problems with Chris's car are mechanical failure and which are problem exists between steering wheel and seat, but he's had his share of non driver-induced mechanical failures as well. Even so, the car is letting the driver down more than the reverse is happening.
As for where else Petter could go... There are a lot of options providing he's willing to pay. And I wouldn't be surprised if he could get the budget to go full privateer for a year or two. I suspect that he might be able to get a drive with a privateer Citroen (a la Dani Sordo), but I think it's more likely that he could pay for a Ford. M-Sport has prepped more than one car for privateer use, so they are used to running a bigger stable. Also, Petter does have some existing familiarity with the team. If he were the one paying for the ride then team management/orders would be less of an issue. Of course, if he's paying that also means that he would have less of a hand in directing the development of the car.
Uh... Which 2006 WRC season are you watching? Yours sounds much more interesting than mine. The one I've seen includes a brand new engine failing on the first day, the driveshaft breaking on the first stage, bolts falling out of the power steering, the alternator failing, the paddle shifter breaking (twice!)... And that's just some of the problems on Petter's car. I get lost keeping sorted which of the problems with Chris's car are mechanical failure and which are problem exists between steering wheel and seat, but he's had his share of non driver-induced mechanical failures as well. Even so, the car is letting the driver down more than the reverse is happening.
As for where else Petter could go... There are a lot of options providing he's willing to pay. And I wouldn't be surprised if he could get the budget to go full privateer for a year or two. I suspect that he might be able to get a drive with a privateer Citroen (a la Dani Sordo), but I think it's more likely that he could pay for a Ford. M-Sport has prepped more than one car for privateer use, so they are used to running a bigger stable. Also, Petter does have some existing familiarity with the team. If he were the one paying for the ride then team management/orders would be less of an issue. Of course, if he's paying that also means that he would have less of a hand in directing the development of the car.
| roofis | 06-16-2006 01:33 PM |
[QUOTE=datageek]I suspect that he might be able to get a drive with a privateer Citroen (a la Dani Sordo)..[/QUOTE]
If Petter got into a privateer Citroen (a la Dani Sordo), [I]that[/I] would be very interesting. Loeb in almost every rally acknowledges Petter as one of his closer rivals on stages, Gronholm used to mention him but I guess has seen Petter & Subaru aren't much of any threat to Ford & he at this point. I'd really like to see Petter & Phil in an Xsara and see what they can do with a season of that. Consistent upper top 6 placements, no doubt. And no more watching them and wondering..."It's been 3 minutes into this stage..what's gonna break first?" :banana:
If Petter is with Subaru till '09 is Atkinson staying or going for any of that time?
If Petter got into a privateer Citroen (a la Dani Sordo), [I]that[/I] would be very interesting. Loeb in almost every rally acknowledges Petter as one of his closer rivals on stages, Gronholm used to mention him but I guess has seen Petter & Subaru aren't much of any threat to Ford & he at this point. I'd really like to see Petter & Phil in an Xsara and see what they can do with a season of that. Consistent upper top 6 placements, no doubt. And no more watching them and wondering..."It's been 3 minutes into this stage..what's gonna break first?" :banana:
If Petter is with Subaru till '09 is Atkinson staying or going for any of that time?
| So Cal STI | 06-17-2006 12:21 AM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]I thought that the reason BFG is in rally because Michlien was pulling out of WRC to consentrate on other series of racing? Plus, is'nt BFG owned by Michelin anyway?[/QUOTE]
Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...[/QUOTE]
Thank you sir, very informative :) .
Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...[/QUOTE]
Thank you sir, very informative :) .
| bitterWRX | 06-19-2006 02:03 PM |
[QUOTE=roofis]
If Petter is with Subaru till '09 is Atkinson staying or going for any of that time?[/QUOTE]
From what I've been seeing last season and this season... I think they're going to drop him soon. His performance is definitely sub-par. I guess Atkinson could blame his 06 season on his car not performing to potential but his 05 wasn't all that great either.
If Petter is with Subaru till '09 is Atkinson staying or going for any of that time?[/QUOTE]
From what I've been seeing last season and this season... I think they're going to drop him soon. His performance is definitely sub-par. I guess Atkinson could blame his 06 season on his car not performing to potential but his 05 wasn't all that great either.
| Homemade WRX | 06-19-2006 02:50 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101] Has Subaru signed a new contract with Prodrive to operate the SWRT?[/QUOTE]
that's what I'm wondering...are they going to be able to balance F1, the Aston Martin Team and Subaru all at once...still being such a small company...?
that's what I'm wondering...are they going to be able to balance F1, the Aston Martin Team and Subaru all at once...still being such a small company...?
| Yotsuya | 06-19-2006 03:27 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]Let us not forget that DR is back at the helm, what 10 days before this happened.
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What's this about? I'm worried Richards is putting WRC on the back burner; he's been trying to get an F1 team for a while now. Now that he's got one...
On a side note, anyone know if Sordo's going to get Sainz's Spanish oil sponsorships? Through the years, you could tell who Carlos was driving for by the big Repsol ads on that team's cars.
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What's this about? I'm worried Richards is putting WRC on the back burner; he's been trying to get an F1 team for a while now. Now that he's got one...
On a side note, anyone know if Sordo's going to get Sainz's Spanish oil sponsorships? Through the years, you could tell who Carlos was driving for by the big Repsol ads on that team's cars.
| nKoan | 06-19-2006 07:14 PM |
[QUOTE=Homemade WRX]that's what I'm wondering...are they going to be able to balance F1, the Aston Martin Team and Subaru all at once...still being such a small company...?[/QUOTE]
They aren't that small of a company, and have been running other programs too. A few years ago they were running SWRT, Ferrari in ALMS and Ford Falcons in Australian V8 Supercars, as well as other random smaller projects. Prodrive will have the resources to field the F1, AM ALMS and SWRT without a problem.
They aren't that small of a company, and have been running other programs too. A few years ago they were running SWRT, Ferrari in ALMS and Ford Falcons in Australian V8 Supercars, as well as other random smaller projects. Prodrive will have the resources to field the F1, AM ALMS and SWRT without a problem.
| Homemade WRX | 06-20-2006 02:29 AM |
[QUOTE=nKoan]They aren't that small of a company, and have been running other programs too. A few years ago they were running SWRT, Ferrari in ALMS and Ford Falcons in Australian V8 Supercars, as well as other random smaller projects. Prodrive will have the resources to field the F1, AM ALMS and SWRT without a problem.[/QUOTE]
well having talked with them about a job and knowing how small their staff is (in all relativaty)...I hope they can...as you mentioned, yes they have done well in many forms of racing with numerous teams...but never soo many at once...that is all that I'm saying...
I think they will grow and have a completely seperate f1 house...
well having talked with them about a job and knowing how small their staff is (in all relativaty)...I hope they can...as you mentioned, yes they have done well in many forms of racing with numerous teams...but never soo many at once...that is all that I'm saying...
I think they will grow and have a completely seperate f1 house...
| nKoan | 06-20-2006 02:55 AM |
They do have a completely new place in development for the new F1 team. It shouldn't affect the other parts of the company, except that some key people may be moved. Otherwise, they should be more then equiped to handle it all.
| CirrusWRX | 06-20-2006 12:34 PM |
I'm skeptical- resources are finite in the motorports world and if a few "key people" get moved from WRC to F1, you can't just hop on Monster.com and find replacements.
We'll see how much overlap comes of it- watch the 2007 WRC car has open wheels and a wing on the front
Richards: "Yes, there was some sharing of technology between our F1 and WRC programs..." as the AWD F1 car goes psssssh pssssssh psssssssh, brubrbrbrbubrbrbrBWAPAWAPAPWAPWAPWAPPAPW *POP* brbrbrb *POP* bwawpapwapwappawpawp in the background.
:lol:
We'll see how much overlap comes of it- watch the 2007 WRC car has open wheels and a wing on the front
Richards: "Yes, there was some sharing of technology between our F1 and WRC programs..." as the AWD F1 car goes psssssh pssssssh psssssssh, brubrbrbrbubrbrbrBWAPAWAPAPWAPWAPWAPPAPW *POP* brbrbrb *POP* bwawpapwapwappawpawp in the background.
:lol:
| Homemade WRX | 06-20-2006 12:49 PM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]I'm skeptical- resources are finite in the motorports world and if a few "key people" get moved from WRC to F1, you can't just hop on Monster.com and find replacements.
We'll see how much overlap comes of it- watch the 2007 WRC car has open wheels and a wing on the front
Richards: "Yes, there was some sharing of technology between our F1 and WRC programs..." as the AWD F1 car goes psssssh pssssssh psssssssh, brubrbrbrbubrbrbrBWAPAWAPAPWAPWAPWAPPAPW *POP* brbrbrb *POP* bwawpapwapwappawpawp in the background.
:lol:[/QUOTE]
my thoughts exactly about replacements...you don't just pull out motorsports/ME (with motorsports knowledge and experience) out of the air...especially good ones...
I know where they can source some good one's though, same place touring car and IRL soure 'em...FSAE :D
and yes it is funny that as he says F1 and WRC share technology as the WRC car is antilagging in the background...because most people look at it like this :huh:
We'll see how much overlap comes of it- watch the 2007 WRC car has open wheels and a wing on the front
Richards: "Yes, there was some sharing of technology between our F1 and WRC programs..." as the AWD F1 car goes psssssh pssssssh psssssssh, brubrbrbrbubrbrbrBWAPAWAPAPWAPWAPWAPPAPW *POP* brbrbrb *POP* bwawpapwapwappawpawp in the background.
:lol:[/QUOTE]
my thoughts exactly about replacements...you don't just pull out motorsports/ME (with motorsports knowledge and experience) out of the air...especially good ones...
I know where they can source some good one's though, same place touring car and IRL soure 'em...FSAE :D
and yes it is funny that as he says F1 and WRC share technology as the WRC car is antilagging in the background...because most people look at it like this :huh:
| KAX | 06-20-2006 01:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Boxologist]the probem on the team, 2004, 2005, and 2006 is a SWRT problem. If u go back over teh rosters from the mid 90s, u can see the drivers they select and when they do well. SWRT SHOULD know who go and sign for the second seat or as a team/driver technical analyst, but since they have not gone that route, or have not been successful(cheapskates) in getting someone who can bring the team back up championship level.[/QUOTE]
Subaru has never been a team interested in the Manufacturers title. They get one driver who they feel can win the Driver title and another driver who they want to train. Petter was that driver they could train in 2000 and 2001, when they saw he had real potential, they kept him and he took of Makkinen's place and won in 2003. In 2003, Hirvonen was the driver they could train and he didnt show enough ability (which he is showing now), so they found someone else. They never really cared to get a real good driver lineup for the manufacturer title, except maybe for the deal with richard burns before his death (rip).
Subaru has never been a team interested in the Manufacturers title. They get one driver who they feel can win the Driver title and another driver who they want to train. Petter was that driver they could train in 2000 and 2001, when they saw he had real potential, they kept him and he took of Makkinen's place and won in 2003. In 2003, Hirvonen was the driver they could train and he didnt show enough ability (which he is showing now), so they found someone else. They never really cared to get a real good driver lineup for the manufacturer title, except maybe for the deal with richard burns before his death (rip).
| WagonMonster | 06-20-2006 02:00 PM |
It doesn't really matter if Petter wins or not, he is, BY FAR, the most popular driver in the WRC. People abslutely love the guy, and, that itself, is enough to sell a lot of cars.
| CirrusWRX | 06-20-2006 03:13 PM |
^And being an underdog can garner a fair bit of of a "soft spot" for the fans.
I'm sure even the biggest Loeb fans have GOT to feel it for Petter after the way this season has gone thus far, just like Marcus and his season last year.
I'm sure even the biggest Loeb fans have GOT to feel it for Petter after the way this season has gone thus far, just like Marcus and his season last year.
| chaddeus | 06-20-2006 05:37 PM |
If Petter were to leave Subaru, where can he go to? Loeb is taking Citroen, Marcus is taking Ford. Where else?
- Charles
- Charles
| WRXedUSA | 06-20-2006 06:13 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]I thought that the reason BFG is in rally because Michlien was pulling out of WRC to consentrate on other series of racing? Plus, is'nt BFG owned by Michelin anyway?[/QUOTE]
Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...[/QUOTE]
BFG = Offroad tire brand
Michelin= On road tire brand
That's why they divided it.
Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...[/QUOTE]
BFG = Offroad tire brand
Michelin= On road tire brand
That's why they divided it.
| Boxologist | 06-22-2006 03:18 AM |
[QUOTE=KAX]Subaru has never been a team interested in the Manufacturers title. They get one driver who they feel can win the Driver title and another driver who they want to train. Petter was that driver they could train in 2000 and 2001, when they saw he had real potential, they kept him and he took of Makkinen's place and won in 2003. In 2003, Hirvonen was the driver they could train and he didnt show enough ability (which he is showing now), so they found someone else. They never really cared to get a real good driver lineup for the manufacturer title, except maybe for the deal with richard burns before his death (rip).[/QUOTE]
not bad, not bad. u almost have all of the puzzle ;)
not bad, not bad. u almost have all of the puzzle ;)
| iwanbo | 06-22-2006 10:37 AM |
Solberg to stay with SWRT 'til 2009
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[url]http://www.rallysportmag.com/cms/A_107007/article.html[/url]
Good article, with some Q&A
[quote]As part of a renewed driver contract announced today, Petter Solberg will continue to drive for the Subaru World Rally Team until at least 2009.
The 31-year-old Norwegian and his 42-year-old Welsh co-driver Phil Mills joined Subaru during the 2000 World Rally Championship season. Since then, Solberg has claimed 13 WRC rally victories, 30 WRC podium finishes and the 2003 FIA Drivers� Championship title.
Subaru World Rally Team managing director Richard Taylor said: �We�re delighted that Petter will remain at Subaru, it is great news for the team. Over the past six seasons we�ve developed a very strong relationship with Petter and he has become a great ambassador for Subaru and the sport in general.
�We�ve had a difficult start to this WRC season and our recent performance has fallen below the standards we set ourselves, but Petter�s decision is the clearest endorsement of our ability to get things back on track. We are confident that we�ve got the right technical direction now. We have a good plan and are looking forward to making ourselves fully competitive again over the next few months and then developing a new car for the longer term. Petter believes, like we do, that we can give him the best opportunity of winning his second and hopefully his third World Championship titles in the near future.�
Solberg said: �Well, first of all the aim is to win - that�s the main thing. That�s what I want and the team wants too. Okay, it�s been a difficult situation recently and we haven�t won as much as we want, but I�ve seen the plan and the strategy and how things are going to work out. That�s why I�m feeling very positive about signing for Subaru again - I know that they have always been in the top of this sport and they will be back at the top and start to win rallies again very soon. It is a difficult situation at the moment but that�s how it is sometimes, there are ups and downs and when things are going badly it�s very easy to run away, but that�s not me. I want to stay and get back to the top again with the people I was on top with before.�
Subaru manufacturer principal Toshi Azuma said: �It is very important for Subaru to have another three seasons with Petter and we are very positive about our future prospects in the World Rally Championship. Petter developed his driving career with Subaru, in 2003 he became the WRC drivers� champion with us and now we want to give him the opportunity to develop further. He has also been closely involved in Subaru�s road car development over the years. Because he understands what it takes to develop road cars, he performs his role perfectly. His enthusiasm and personality has a positive effect not only to the rally team but to Subaru supporters around the world.�
QUESTIONS TO PETTER SOLBERG
Q: Why have you chosen to stay at Subaru?
PS: �At Subaru I have a very good team of people behind me, that�s everybody including the mechanics, engineers, management and those at Subaru in Japan. Okay, I had some problems in my career when I started at Subaru but the team supported me very much and since then we have always stood together, through good and bad things. But the most important thing about this career is winning. Now I know it�s difficult at Subaru just now, and there was talk that I might change teams, but I know that Subaru has all the abilities and all the qualities and the best people to handle this situation. I am very, very confident that we will start winning again soon. I would not have signed if I felt the team wasn�t ready to win very soon.�
Q: What about the current car, what sort of potential has it got?
PS: �It has much more to give. Already it�s working much better and I have tested a lot of things that have shown improved speed but still there are some things missing. The engineers have found out some of the reasons, we have a good direction now and we will work together so that I am 100 per cent happy with it. Hopefully we can unlock more of its potential very soon.�
Q: How soon before we can see you winning rallies again?
PS: �It all depends on how quickly we can get the car truly competitive. As soon as that is done we will start winning again.�
Q: What do you think you can achieve between now and 2009?
PS: �I want to say some big words, I really want to say I�m going to win all the Championships but that would be stupid. What I can say is I have a lot of confidence in my ability as a driver. A lot depends on how quickly we can improve the performance of the car in general but I don�t think it�ll be too long. Once we�re able to start pushing again then I think there will be some very, very good times ahead.�
QUESTIONS TO SWRT DIRECTOR, RICHARD TAYLOR
Q: Why is the latest car not as competitive as its predecessors?
RT: �Clearly, we are not satisfied with the WRC2006 quite yet. Its performance has fallen short of our expectations and our drivers haven�t been able to achieve the results they deserve. We believe that some of the problems have been caused by a previous development process where the latest car and tyre packages were not developed consistently together. In addition, some elements of the design direction we have followed have not worked as well on rallies as our testing suggested they would. We�re now correcting these elements. We have a clear plan for the future and we firmly believe our rally car will very soon be fully competitive.�
Q: Would changing tyre supplier help?
RT: �No. We are dealing with a combined car and tyre package issue, not just a tyre issue. In Greece we saw real improvements in our performance because we had been working more closely with Pirelli. We now need to continue that process through the various ranges of tyres we use on different events. We have a long partnership with Pirelli and we will continue to work with them with the aim of winning rallies for Subaru and Pirelli in the second half of the season. We�re conscious of the fact that Pirelli has suggested that for marketing reasons the WRC might not be the place for them in the future. If and when that decision is made we will respect it.�
Q: How can you turn things around?
RT: �The new management team that was put in place three months ago has been looking closely at technical and operational aspects to identify the reasons why our performance has slipped. We now have a clear technical plan which has evolved over the last few weeks and will help us turn things around. There are four development phases, Greece saw the first phase, there will be another in time for Germany, another in time for the homologation process on October 1st and a final phase for the 2007 homologation on 1 January. What we�re doing is pulling as much as possible of our medium term development plan forward into the second half of this year. As part of the first phase before Greece we tested some new ideas to get the car and tyres working better together. The results were encouraging - as Petter�s stage wins proved - but there were limits to what could be achieved in the time available. The nine week summer break will give us the opportunity to work on more fundamental improvements.�
Q: What are the targets for the rest of the year?
RT: �We expect that Germany will be a tough rally for us, but we will target podium finishes on all remaining events. We still believe we can win the rallies in Japan, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.�
Q: Will Chris and Stephane partner Solberg at Subaru next year?
RT: �We haven�t yet decided our strategy for the second or third cars next year. A lot depends on the FIA calendar and knowing which events will be included in season. We�ll review the situation after the FIA World Council confirms the calendar in July.�
QUESTIONS TO SUBARU'S TOSHI AZUMA
Q: Is Solberg's re-signing a reflection of Subaru's future commitment to the World Rally Championship?
TA: �If the current situation continued, then obviously there would be little point in Subaru continuing to rally. We are one of the top teams and should always be in contention for victory. It is not easy at all to maintain the position as world�s best, but we�ve already taken every possible action to achieve it again. If we can demonstrate it to the world, then long-term commitment to WRC will come naturally. Petter is one of the top drivers and our team is also one of the best. I firmly believe we have enough potential in terms of the car and engineering that we can achieve good results. Our biggest commitment can be seen in the fact that we will be competing with Petter for the coming three seasons.�
Q: How important is WRC rallying to Subaru's marketing strategy?
TA: �It is extremely important and in line with Subaru�s philosophy of building cars that give a driving experience that is both safe and fun. The best way to demonstrate the world�s best drivability, high speed and high safety that Subaru has with its all-wheel-drive layout, boxer engine and low-center of gravity is rallying. It meets the purpose and can bring far more useful feedback to the development process than circuit racing because the former uses normal public road covered with ice, snow, rain, gravel or asphalt while the latter uses just asphalt. For us, there is no more appropriate stage than the WRC.�
Q: How close is the relationship between Subaru in Japan and the team in the UK?
TA: �At the beginning of Subaru�s WRC activity the engine was developed in Japan while the body was mainly developed in the UK. With increased manufacturer involvement in the championship, we realised that engineering involvement from Japan had greater importance and we quickly increased the collaboration between Japanese and UK engineers. At first this focused on the engine area, but having achieved positive results we are now taking every possible action to increase levels of collaboration in other areas. Above all, The Subaru World Rally Team is a global team and while the UK and Japan sides still have their own areas of expertise, our aim is to have the most appropriate engineering team irrespective of national borders.�
Q: What are your hopes for the rest of the season?
TA: �At Subaru we have a philosophy of �driver and car in one-body�, which means a car that behaves as if it was part of the driver�s own body, and that�s what we�re hoping to achieve with the rally car too. It is now required that we review our processes and make some changes to the cars. The most important thing is to be calm and steadily improve the rally cars and team to return both to the top level. During the second half of season, we hope to get podium finishes on all remaining events. We still believe we can win the rallies in Japan, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.�
[/quote]
Good article, with some Q&A
[quote]As part of a renewed driver contract announced today, Petter Solberg will continue to drive for the Subaru World Rally Team until at least 2009.
The 31-year-old Norwegian and his 42-year-old Welsh co-driver Phil Mills joined Subaru during the 2000 World Rally Championship season. Since then, Solberg has claimed 13 WRC rally victories, 30 WRC podium finishes and the 2003 FIA Drivers� Championship title.
Subaru World Rally Team managing director Richard Taylor said: �We�re delighted that Petter will remain at Subaru, it is great news for the team. Over the past six seasons we�ve developed a very strong relationship with Petter and he has become a great ambassador for Subaru and the sport in general.
�We�ve had a difficult start to this WRC season and our recent performance has fallen below the standards we set ourselves, but Petter�s decision is the clearest endorsement of our ability to get things back on track. We are confident that we�ve got the right technical direction now. We have a good plan and are looking forward to making ourselves fully competitive again over the next few months and then developing a new car for the longer term. Petter believes, like we do, that we can give him the best opportunity of winning his second and hopefully his third World Championship titles in the near future.�
Solberg said: �Well, first of all the aim is to win - that�s the main thing. That�s what I want and the team wants too. Okay, it�s been a difficult situation recently and we haven�t won as much as we want, but I�ve seen the plan and the strategy and how things are going to work out. That�s why I�m feeling very positive about signing for Subaru again - I know that they have always been in the top of this sport and they will be back at the top and start to win rallies again very soon. It is a difficult situation at the moment but that�s how it is sometimes, there are ups and downs and when things are going badly it�s very easy to run away, but that�s not me. I want to stay and get back to the top again with the people I was on top with before.�
Subaru manufacturer principal Toshi Azuma said: �It is very important for Subaru to have another three seasons with Petter and we are very positive about our future prospects in the World Rally Championship. Petter developed his driving career with Subaru, in 2003 he became the WRC drivers� champion with us and now we want to give him the opportunity to develop further. He has also been closely involved in Subaru�s road car development over the years. Because he understands what it takes to develop road cars, he performs his role perfectly. His enthusiasm and personality has a positive effect not only to the rally team but to Subaru supporters around the world.�
QUESTIONS TO PETTER SOLBERG
Q: Why have you chosen to stay at Subaru?
PS: �At Subaru I have a very good team of people behind me, that�s everybody including the mechanics, engineers, management and those at Subaru in Japan. Okay, I had some problems in my career when I started at Subaru but the team supported me very much and since then we have always stood together, through good and bad things. But the most important thing about this career is winning. Now I know it�s difficult at Subaru just now, and there was talk that I might change teams, but I know that Subaru has all the abilities and all the qualities and the best people to handle this situation. I am very, very confident that we will start winning again soon. I would not have signed if I felt the team wasn�t ready to win very soon.�
Q: What about the current car, what sort of potential has it got?
PS: �It has much more to give. Already it�s working much better and I have tested a lot of things that have shown improved speed but still there are some things missing. The engineers have found out some of the reasons, we have a good direction now and we will work together so that I am 100 per cent happy with it. Hopefully we can unlock more of its potential very soon.�
Q: How soon before we can see you winning rallies again?
PS: �It all depends on how quickly we can get the car truly competitive. As soon as that is done we will start winning again.�
Q: What do you think you can achieve between now and 2009?
PS: �I want to say some big words, I really want to say I�m going to win all the Championships but that would be stupid. What I can say is I have a lot of confidence in my ability as a driver. A lot depends on how quickly we can improve the performance of the car in general but I don�t think it�ll be too long. Once we�re able to start pushing again then I think there will be some very, very good times ahead.�
QUESTIONS TO SWRT DIRECTOR, RICHARD TAYLOR
Q: Why is the latest car not as competitive as its predecessors?
RT: �Clearly, we are not satisfied with the WRC2006 quite yet. Its performance has fallen short of our expectations and our drivers haven�t been able to achieve the results they deserve. We believe that some of the problems have been caused by a previous development process where the latest car and tyre packages were not developed consistently together. In addition, some elements of the design direction we have followed have not worked as well on rallies as our testing suggested they would. We�re now correcting these elements. We have a clear plan for the future and we firmly believe our rally car will very soon be fully competitive.�
Q: Would changing tyre supplier help?
RT: �No. We are dealing with a combined car and tyre package issue, not just a tyre issue. In Greece we saw real improvements in our performance because we had been working more closely with Pirelli. We now need to continue that process through the various ranges of tyres we use on different events. We have a long partnership with Pirelli and we will continue to work with them with the aim of winning rallies for Subaru and Pirelli in the second half of the season. We�re conscious of the fact that Pirelli has suggested that for marketing reasons the WRC might not be the place for them in the future. If and when that decision is made we will respect it.�
Q: How can you turn things around?
RT: �The new management team that was put in place three months ago has been looking closely at technical and operational aspects to identify the reasons why our performance has slipped. We now have a clear technical plan which has evolved over the last few weeks and will help us turn things around. There are four development phases, Greece saw the first phase, there will be another in time for Germany, another in time for the homologation process on October 1st and a final phase for the 2007 homologation on 1 January. What we�re doing is pulling as much as possible of our medium term development plan forward into the second half of this year. As part of the first phase before Greece we tested some new ideas to get the car and tyres working better together. The results were encouraging - as Petter�s stage wins proved - but there were limits to what could be achieved in the time available. The nine week summer break will give us the opportunity to work on more fundamental improvements.�
Q: What are the targets for the rest of the year?
RT: �We expect that Germany will be a tough rally for us, but we will target podium finishes on all remaining events. We still believe we can win the rallies in Japan, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.�
Q: Will Chris and Stephane partner Solberg at Subaru next year?
RT: �We haven�t yet decided our strategy for the second or third cars next year. A lot depends on the FIA calendar and knowing which events will be included in season. We�ll review the situation after the FIA World Council confirms the calendar in July.�
QUESTIONS TO SUBARU'S TOSHI AZUMA
Q: Is Solberg's re-signing a reflection of Subaru's future commitment to the World Rally Championship?
TA: �If the current situation continued, then obviously there would be little point in Subaru continuing to rally. We are one of the top teams and should always be in contention for victory. It is not easy at all to maintain the position as world�s best, but we�ve already taken every possible action to achieve it again. If we can demonstrate it to the world, then long-term commitment to WRC will come naturally. Petter is one of the top drivers and our team is also one of the best. I firmly believe we have enough potential in terms of the car and engineering that we can achieve good results. Our biggest commitment can be seen in the fact that we will be competing with Petter for the coming three seasons.�
Q: How important is WRC rallying to Subaru's marketing strategy?
TA: �It is extremely important and in line with Subaru�s philosophy of building cars that give a driving experience that is both safe and fun. The best way to demonstrate the world�s best drivability, high speed and high safety that Subaru has with its all-wheel-drive layout, boxer engine and low-center of gravity is rallying. It meets the purpose and can bring far more useful feedback to the development process than circuit racing because the former uses normal public road covered with ice, snow, rain, gravel or asphalt while the latter uses just asphalt. For us, there is no more appropriate stage than the WRC.�
Q: How close is the relationship between Subaru in Japan and the team in the UK?
TA: �At the beginning of Subaru�s WRC activity the engine was developed in Japan while the body was mainly developed in the UK. With increased manufacturer involvement in the championship, we realised that engineering involvement from Japan had greater importance and we quickly increased the collaboration between Japanese and UK engineers. At first this focused on the engine area, but having achieved positive results we are now taking every possible action to increase levels of collaboration in other areas. Above all, The Subaru World Rally Team is a global team and while the UK and Japan sides still have their own areas of expertise, our aim is to have the most appropriate engineering team irrespective of national borders.�
Q: What are your hopes for the rest of the season?
TA: �At Subaru we have a philosophy of �driver and car in one-body�, which means a car that behaves as if it was part of the driver�s own body, and that�s what we�re hoping to achieve with the rally car too. It is now required that we review our processes and make some changes to the cars. The most important thing is to be calm and steadily improve the rally cars and team to return both to the top level. During the second half of season, we hope to get podium finishes on all remaining events. We still believe we can win the rallies in Japan, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.�
[/quote]
| nKoan | 06-22-2006 11:05 AM |
[url=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1026397]Again?[/url]
| Scooby South | 06-22-2006 11:12 AM |
[QUOTE=nKoan][url=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1026397]Again?[/url][/QUOTE]
already merged..;)
already merged..;)
| CirrusWRX | 06-22-2006 01:59 PM |
Most intriguing quote out of the entire article?
[quote]"Okay, it�s been a difficult situation recently and we haven�t won as much as we want, but [u]I�ve seen the plan and the strategy and how things are going to work out.[/u] That�s why I�m feeling very positive about signing for Subaru again - I know that they have always been in the top of this sport and they will be back at the top and start to win rallies again very soon."[/quote]
Makes me confident they have a REAL plan in place that, given the rest of the article, have resigned to the fact that this year is basically over as far as actual results, so they need to really kick it into high gear as far as development and have the BEST possible car ready for Jan 1 2007.
Wonder if Petter saw what the "next gen" WRC car will look like and feature which makes him want to stay til 2009?
[quote]"Okay, it�s been a difficult situation recently and we haven�t won as much as we want, but [u]I�ve seen the plan and the strategy and how things are going to work out.[/u] That�s why I�m feeling very positive about signing for Subaru again - I know that they have always been in the top of this sport and they will be back at the top and start to win rallies again very soon."[/quote]
Makes me confident they have a REAL plan in place that, given the rest of the article, have resigned to the fact that this year is basically over as far as actual results, so they need to really kick it into high gear as far as development and have the BEST possible car ready for Jan 1 2007.
Wonder if Petter saw what the "next gen" WRC car will look like and feature which makes him want to stay til 2009?
| iwanbo | 06-22-2006 03:44 PM |
[QUOTE=Scooby South]already merged..;)[/QUOTE]
Wow... sorry about that. Saw the date on the article as June 21st so I assumed it wasn't posted here yet.
quick edit - the one I linked/posted had a bit more information :)
Wow... sorry about that. Saw the date on the article as June 21st so I assumed it wasn't posted here yet.
quick edit - the one I linked/posted had a bit more information :)
| FaastLegacy | 06-23-2006 01:08 AM |
[QUOTE=KAX]Subaru has never been a team interested in the Manufacturers title. They get one driver who they feel can win the Driver title and another driver who they want to train. Petter was that driver they could train in 2000 and 2001, when they saw he had real potential, they kept him and he took of Makkinen's place and won in 2003. In 2003, Hirvonen was the driver they could train and he didnt show enough ability (which he is showing now), so they found someone else. They never really cared to get a real good driver lineup for the manufacturer title, except maybe for the deal with richard burns before his death (rip).[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Seems they cared a lot about the manufacturer's championship in the 90s.
I disagree. Seems they cared a lot about the manufacturer's championship in the 90s.
| nKoan | 06-23-2006 07:23 AM |
[QUOTE=FaastLegacy]I disagree. Seems they cared a lot about the manufacturer's championship in the 90s.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, I remember seeing an interview with David Lapworth in the 90's where he said they were always more concerned with the Drivers Championship then the Manufacturers Championship. They may have won the Manufacturers once or twice in the 90's, but the main aim was always the Drivers Championship.
I disagree, I remember seeing an interview with David Lapworth in the 90's where he said they were always more concerned with the Drivers Championship then the Manufacturers Championship. They may have won the Manufacturers once or twice in the 90's, but the main aim was always the Drivers Championship.
| fliz | 06-23-2006 10:16 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Michellin is trying to expanded the sporting pedigree of the BFG line to raise its market percpetion and there by price...
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...
BFG = Offroad tire brand
Michelin= On road tire brand
That's why they divided it.[/QUOTE]
Except that in the US, the rally tires are still branded Michelin.
And yes Michellin owns the BFG brand, BFG WRC tires are just re painted Michellins...
BFG = Offroad tire brand
Michelin= On road tire brand
That's why they divided it.[/QUOTE]
Except that in the US, the rally tires are still branded Michelin.
| OBShahn | 06-23-2006 01:15 PM |
[QUOTE=fliz]Except that in the US, the rally tires are still branded Michelin.[/QUOTE]
That will probably change in a year or two...
That will probably change in a year or two...
| Virrdog | 06-23-2006 03:54 PM |
US is always special when it comes to product naming: Lexus - Toyota, Acura - Honda, Warner-Ishi = IHI, etc.
US will probably be last to switch names, if at all. In theory, of course.
US will probably be last to switch names, if at all. In theory, of course.
| bjorn240 | 06-23-2006 04:00 PM |
I think we will be among the last to switch, but that that has more to do with the tires currently in inventory than anything else. As I understand it, our team will be on BF Goodrich branded tires as of 1/1/2007.
- Christian
- Christian
| fliz | 06-23-2006 05:00 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]I think we will be among the last to switch, but that that has more to do with the tires currently in inventory than anything else. As I understand it, our team will be on BF Goodrich branded tires as of 1/1/2007.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
They should just drop the prices on Michelins to clear them out of inventory. ;)
I need 14" tires...and I like Michelins, but can't afford them.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
They should just drop the prices on Michelins to clear them out of inventory. ;)
I need 14" tires...and I like Michelins, but can't afford them.
| OBShahn | 06-23-2006 08:19 PM |
[QUOTE=Virrdog]US is always special when it comes to product naming: Lexus - Toyota, Acura - Honda, Warner-Ishi = IHI, etc.
US will probably be last to switch names, if at all. In theory, of course.[/QUOTE]
As Christian stated.
The US is sorta of a back logged/dumping ground for rally tires, but they are coming. Most dealers said they would be getting them at the end of 2006 for 2007 when the change was announced. Christian's statement confirms BFGs will be in the us by 2007, or he just outed that they will run PCWRC in a car with full tire support, either or....
US will probably be last to switch names, if at all. In theory, of course.[/QUOTE]
As Christian stated.
The US is sorta of a back logged/dumping ground for rally tires, but they are coming. Most dealers said they would be getting them at the end of 2006 for 2007 when the change was announced. Christian's statement confirms BFGs will be in the us by 2007, or he just outed that they will run PCWRC in a car with full tire support, either or....
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