| WagonMonster | 05-11-2006 10:00 PM |
Gigi Galli con Linguine! - Rally d'Italia Sardegna starts 5/19!
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Looks like Petter's hitting his stride, now if someone could just stuff a sardine in Loeb's intake.
:banana:
:banana:
| XenoWolf | 05-12-2006 07:09 AM |
Excellent title...
[b][size=7]GO GIGI![/size][/b] (and Petter of course)
[b][size=7]GO GIGI![/size][/b] (and Petter of course)
| Italiano | 05-12-2006 07:26 AM |
:banana: :disco: :banana:
| WRXedUSA | 05-12-2006 09:56 AM |
IBloebwinsit
| XenoWolf | 05-12-2006 11:46 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]IBloebwinsit[/QUOTE]
Ugh, I even said that I'd beat you this time.. and I forgot. :mad:
Ugh, I even said that I'd beat you this time.. and I forgot. :mad:
| WRXedUSA | 05-12-2006 12:13 PM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]Ugh, I even said that I'd beat you this time.. and I forgot. :mad:[/QUOTE]
He he!
He he!
| Duo | 05-12-2006 12:16 PM |
did anyone notice on swrt.com how they have stopped saying petters goal is first and now its top two. That cant be good. I think if petter doesnt win here its over for his chance at the championship.
| WRXedUSA | 05-12-2006 02:26 PM |
[QUOTE=Duo]did anyone notice on swrt.com how they have stopped saying petters goal is first and now its top two. That cant be good. I think if petter doesnt win here its over for his chance at the championship.[/QUOTE]
I think Solberg conceded in the Argentina post-rally interview that he cannot compete with Loeb-BFG-Citroen even on his best day.
I think Solberg conceded in the Argentina post-rally interview that he cannot compete with Loeb-BFG-Citroen even on his best day.
| rallymaniac | 05-15-2006 02:39 PM |
I really hope they can score some points and that Petter can finally get his win.
I don't know how long Gali will drive in peugeot since Pirelli said that they're pulling out of the WRC with their brand.
I don't know how long Gali will drive in peugeot since Pirelli said that they're pulling out of the WRC with their brand.
| iwanbo | 05-15-2006 03:24 PM |
[QUOTE=rallymaniac]I really hope they can score some points and that Petter can finally get his win.
I don't know how long Gali will drive in peugeot since Pirelli said that they're pulling out of the WRC with their brand.[/QUOTE]
Really? |:^(
Can you link to the article or press release?
I don't know how long Gali will drive in peugeot since Pirelli said that they're pulling out of the WRC with their brand.[/QUOTE]
Really? |:^(
Can you link to the article or press release?
| CirrusWRX | 05-15-2006 03:42 PM |
While I'm sure it's not mathematically impossible, my gut (very scientific, I know) tells me that "aiming" for a top 3 finish would be the best use of time/money/resources.
In order to capture the championship, Petter needs to win every rally from here on out. If past performance is any indication of future results, it ain't gonna happen. The way I see it (and SWRT too)
1. Petter goes out with 110% effort from here on out and wins EVERY single rally and ends up at #1. (Probably impossible)
2. Petter goes out with 110% effort from here on out and wins EVERY single rally except one, crashes out DNF and ends up at #2. (Probably impossible, and even if a miracle happened, you KNOW the odds are against him and potentially losing a race that would cost him the championship.)
3. Petter goes out with 95% effort, 5% restraint from here on out, wins a few rally's, top 3 finishes, and one DNF. Ends up at #2 or #3 overall.
Why not shoot for #2 or #3 at this stage of the game? Keep the cars in one piece, get more data, try out a few car changes along the way, new tires, etc. Focus on something relatively obtainable that will require excellent teamwork and hardwork and build on it.
And hope that Loeb has a tragic masturbation accident that leaves his hands withered and useless...
Go SWRT.
In order to capture the championship, Petter needs to win every rally from here on out. If past performance is any indication of future results, it ain't gonna happen. The way I see it (and SWRT too)
1. Petter goes out with 110% effort from here on out and wins EVERY single rally and ends up at #1. (Probably impossible)
2. Petter goes out with 110% effort from here on out and wins EVERY single rally except one, crashes out DNF and ends up at #2. (Probably impossible, and even if a miracle happened, you KNOW the odds are against him and potentially losing a race that would cost him the championship.)
3. Petter goes out with 95% effort, 5% restraint from here on out, wins a few rally's, top 3 finishes, and one DNF. Ends up at #2 or #3 overall.
Why not shoot for #2 or #3 at this stage of the game? Keep the cars in one piece, get more data, try out a few car changes along the way, new tires, etc. Focus on something relatively obtainable that will require excellent teamwork and hardwork and build on it.
And hope that Loeb has a tragic masturbation accident that leaves his hands withered and useless...
Go SWRT.
| WagonMonster | 05-15-2006 05:16 PM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]And hope that Loeb has a tragic masturbation accident that leaves his hands withered and useless..[/QUOTE]
:lol:
:lol:
| kic | 05-15-2006 05:21 PM |
So we've seen Petter run into a multitude of mechanical/just-plain-odd things such as bolts falling out, the shifter paddle breaking, and whatever else I can't think of. Any guesses on what's next?
I predict a windshield (either) will just fall out at some point.
I predict a windshield (either) will just fall out at some point.
| WagonMonster | 05-15-2006 06:28 PM |
He'll be eaten by a Grue.
| rexxer | 05-15-2006 06:48 PM |
<whining>... I miss watching WRC on TV... :( Such bad withdrawals... </whining>
Go Petter!
Go Petter!
| rallymaniac | 05-16-2006 12:43 PM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]And hope that Loeb has a tragic masturbation accident that leaves his hands withered and useless...
.[/QUOTE]
unlikely either since wife takes care of this tuff for him... :lol
About this Pirelli, i don't remember where i heard it but i remember that it was in some footage from rally and they quoted that Pirelli is considering pulling out with the brand or replacing it with some thing like Michelin did with BFG.
Pirelli also criticized Michelin for brand switch and that this is not well established brand in the market.
.[/QUOTE]
unlikely either since wife takes care of this tuff for him... :lol
About this Pirelli, i don't remember where i heard it but i remember that it was in some footage from rally and they quoted that Pirelli is considering pulling out with the brand or replacing it with some thing like Michelin did with BFG.
Pirelli also criticized Michelin for brand switch and that this is not well established brand in the market.
| theicewall | 05-16-2006 12:52 PM |
If pirelli drops out that could be the best thing for subaru in my opinion. Pirelli cannot effectively compete with BFG from what I have seen. The tires just arent as grippy and seem to not last as long. Hell, BFG is even a better choice in autox.
| bemani | 05-16-2006 12:57 PM |
I think the best that Subaru can shoot for is a manufacturer's championship. With Chronos having only Sab consistently scoring and Ford's Mikko usually running into some type of mech. problem, they need to get Chris to push. Which he probably can, if the damn cars would stay in 1 piece.
| CirrusWRX | 05-16-2006 12:58 PM |
Quick somewhat generic WRC question - I used to always steal my desktop wallpaper images from SWRT.com but they closed that loophole a while back.
Anybody got any linkage to some wallpaper-sized (e.g. 1280x1024 or whatever) WRC shots? (Particularly Subaru?) I'm not looking to sell, profit, or whatever - just for use on my background.
Anybody got any linkage to some wallpaper-sized (e.g. 1280x1024 or whatever) WRC shots? (Particularly Subaru?) I'm not looking to sell, profit, or whatever - just for use on my background.
| rallymaniac | 05-16-2006 02:07 PM |
I know ewrc.cz has some pretty good pix of their own but they're not as big
I think they're close to 1000x..... i have one on my desktop at home with 1150x... res and it looks nice when you center it with little black around it.
also if you go to clubwrx.net there is a sticky thread in the rally section with crazy amount of pix linked. You can always explore some of those links to see if they got any new stuff in hi res.
I think they're close to 1000x..... i have one on my desktop at home with 1150x... res and it looks nice when you center it with little black around it.
also if you go to clubwrx.net there is a sticky thread in the rally section with crazy amount of pix linked. You can always explore some of those links to see if they got any new stuff in hi res.
| Dr. WOT | 05-16-2006 04:11 PM |
[QUOTE=bemani]I think the best that Subaru can shoot for is a manufacturer's championship. [/QUOTE]
Do you really think they have done anything to earn that so far? They should have an award for best driver/mechanic, Petter hands down!! :lol:
I'd love to see Gigi continue to drive well and earn a position into a top team for next season. He drives with so much passion.
Do you really think they have done anything to earn that so far? They should have an award for best driver/mechanic, Petter hands down!! :lol:
I'd love to see Gigi continue to drive well and earn a position into a top team for next season. He drives with so much passion.
| FTD | 05-16-2006 05:59 PM |
[QUOTE=Dr. WOT]I'd love to see Gigi continue to drive well and earn a position into a top team for next season. He drives with so much passion.[/QUOTE]
I'm all for passion, but he shouldn't hit his co-driver. I saw him in a recent video collage do just that. That is not passion it is evidence of a jerk behind the wheel.
I'm all for passion, but he shouldn't hit his co-driver. I saw him in a recent video collage do just that. That is not passion it is evidence of a jerk behind the wheel.
| fliz | 05-16-2006 06:05 PM |
FYI...DVDs of the Eurosport coverage are now available for sale in the US.
[url]http://www.wrc-dvd.com[/url]
[url]http://www.wrc-dvd.com[/url]
| FTD | 05-16-2006 07:03 PM |
[QUOTE=fliz]FYI...DVDs of the Eurosport coverage are now available for sale in the US.
[url]http://www.wrc-dvd.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow, that is pricey. At least they are available now...
[url]http://www.wrc-dvd.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow, that is pricey. At least they are available now...
| Rallycarperson | 05-16-2006 11:09 PM |
I like Galli. I'm rooting for him now...
*sigh*
~Mark
*sigh*
~Mark
| CirrusWRX | 05-17-2006 09:59 AM |
[QUOTE=FTD]Wow, that is pricey. At least they are available now...[/QUOTE]
Yes and no - Figure there are 16 events x 3 days / $299 = $6.29 an episode. That's DVD, commercial free, plus the "Preview" for each event and the Mid-season and End of Year review.
Again, not saying that it shouldn't just be "free" on Speed like always, but less than $5.00 when you average it out, per rally, isn't THAT bad, and it looks like they have a subscription program for $249, so now you're down to about $4 per rally.
Yes and no - Figure there are 16 events x 3 days / $299 = $6.29 an episode. That's DVD, commercial free, plus the "Preview" for each event and the Mid-season and End of Year review.
Again, not saying that it shouldn't just be "free" on Speed like always, but less than $5.00 when you average it out, per rally, isn't THAT bad, and it looks like they have a subscription program for $249, so now you're down to about $4 per rally.
| rallymaniac | 05-17-2006 11:07 AM |
[QUOTE=FTD]I'm all for passion, but he shouldn't hit his co-driver. I saw him in a recent video collage do just that. That is not passion it is evidence of a jerk behind the wheel.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, if co-driver miscalls the turn i'd be pretty pissed too. You can get killed by POS mistake like this.
Remember last year i think it was in Catalunya when Gigi was the fastest on the SS and right after the finish he went off the road because the pacenotes had it as a "L3" and in reality it was "L3 tightens" + it was slippery.
I know that this is his mistake when he was making pacenotes but it shows you how little mistake can have major impact on the Team.
I don't know, if co-driver miscalls the turn i'd be pretty pissed too. You can get killed by POS mistake like this.
Remember last year i think it was in Catalunya when Gigi was the fastest on the SS and right after the finish he went off the road because the pacenotes had it as a "L3" and in reality it was "L3 tightens" + it was slippery.
I know that this is his mistake when he was making pacenotes but it shows you how little mistake can have major impact on the Team.
| rallymaniac | 05-17-2006 11:08 AM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]Yes and no - Figure there are 16 events x 3 days / $299 = $6.29 an episode. That's DVD, commercial free, plus the "Preview" for each event and the Mid-season and End of Year review.
Again, not saying that it shouldn't just be "free" on Speed like always, but less than $5.00 when you average it out, per rally, isn't THAT bad, and it looks like they have a subscription program for $249, so now you're down to about $4 per rally.[/QUOTE]
... thank you very much, i'll take torrent for free :lol:
Again, not saying that it shouldn't just be "free" on Speed like always, but less than $5.00 when you average it out, per rally, isn't THAT bad, and it looks like they have a subscription program for $249, so now you're down to about $4 per rally.[/QUOTE]
... thank you very much, i'll take torrent for free :lol:
| CirrusWRX | 05-17-2006 11:13 AM |
[QUOTE=rallymaniac]I don't know, if co-driver miscalls the turn i'd be pretty pissed too. You can get killed by POS mistake like this.
Remember last year i think it was in Catalunya when Gigi was the fastest on the SS and right after the finish he went off the road because the pacenotes had it as a "L3" and in reality it was "L3 tightens" + it was slippery.
I know that this is his mistake when he was making pacenotes but it shows you how little mistake can have major impact on the Team.[/QUOTE]
True, but when it comes down to it, humans are still the operators and no matter how good or how well trained, humans can, do and will continue to make mistakes. It happens.
No matter how good the pacenotes and codriver are, I can gaurantee you Gigi is going to wreck in the future. Maybe the road will be slippery, maybe he'll enter a turn hotter than his capabilities will allow for him to recover from. You think it's fair if his codriver got out and started smacking him for "being a ****ty driver"?
If I was a codriver and the driver just lost control of the car, I'd be pretty pissed too - it works both ways. Therefore, I think it would be more beneficial that NEITEHR teammate get pissed at the other and accept mistakes for what they are. Learn from the mistake and do a better job next time and move on.
Remember last year i think it was in Catalunya when Gigi was the fastest on the SS and right after the finish he went off the road because the pacenotes had it as a "L3" and in reality it was "L3 tightens" + it was slippery.
I know that this is his mistake when he was making pacenotes but it shows you how little mistake can have major impact on the Team.[/QUOTE]
True, but when it comes down to it, humans are still the operators and no matter how good or how well trained, humans can, do and will continue to make mistakes. It happens.
No matter how good the pacenotes and codriver are, I can gaurantee you Gigi is going to wreck in the future. Maybe the road will be slippery, maybe he'll enter a turn hotter than his capabilities will allow for him to recover from. You think it's fair if his codriver got out and started smacking him for "being a ****ty driver"?
If I was a codriver and the driver just lost control of the car, I'd be pretty pissed too - it works both ways. Therefore, I think it would be more beneficial that NEITEHR teammate get pissed at the other and accept mistakes for what they are. Learn from the mistake and do a better job next time and move on.
| XenoWolf | 05-17-2006 01:49 PM |
Italians are passionate and short-tempered, is this really news to any of us?
| FTD | 05-17-2006 07:02 PM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]True, but when it comes down to it, humans are still the operators and no matter how good or how well trained, humans can, do and will continue to make mistakes. It happens.
No matter how good the pacenotes and codriver are, I can gaurantee you Gigi is going to wreck in the future. Maybe the road will be slippery, maybe he'll enter a turn hotter than his capabilities will allow for him to recover from. You think it's fair if his codriver got out and started smacking him for "being a ****ty driver"?
If I was a codriver and the driver just lost control of the car, I'd be pretty pissed too - it works both ways. Therefore, I think it would be more beneficial that NEITEHR teammate get pissed at the other and accept mistakes for what they are. Learn from the mistake and do a better job next time and move on.[/QUOTE]
Well said!
All in all, I have been impressed with Gigi also. I hope the best for him at his home event.
I am looking forward to some Subaru highlights, instead of the ususal lowlights :(
No matter how good the pacenotes and codriver are, I can gaurantee you Gigi is going to wreck in the future. Maybe the road will be slippery, maybe he'll enter a turn hotter than his capabilities will allow for him to recover from. You think it's fair if his codriver got out and started smacking him for "being a ****ty driver"?
If I was a codriver and the driver just lost control of the car, I'd be pretty pissed too - it works both ways. Therefore, I think it would be more beneficial that NEITEHR teammate get pissed at the other and accept mistakes for what they are. Learn from the mistake and do a better job next time and move on.[/QUOTE]
Well said!
All in all, I have been impressed with Gigi also. I hope the best for him at his home event.
I am looking forward to some Subaru highlights, instead of the ususal lowlights :(
| theicewall | 05-17-2006 07:57 PM |
Where did all of the support for Gigi come from all of a sudden outside of the next rally being in his home country? I liked his driving better when he was in a mitsubishi, he seemed to drive more nimbly without the larger arse of the peugot.
ps- it sucks, but historically co-drivers are just supposed to take the abuse (though its usually verbal and not directed at them per say) and do anything they can to keep their driver high spirited and confident. I remember an interview with Mills where he basically said sometimes he says nothing if he feels a response will aggrivate petter more than whatever annoyed him in the first place.
ps- it sucks, but historically co-drivers are just supposed to take the abuse (though its usually verbal and not directed at them per say) and do anything they can to keep their driver high spirited and confident. I remember an interview with Mills where he basically said sometimes he says nothing if he feels a response will aggrivate petter more than whatever annoyed him in the first place.
| kic | 05-18-2006 01:59 PM |
[QUOTE=WagonMonster]He'll be eaten by a Grue.[/QUOTE]
:lol: Gold! Gold I tell you.
Well, I hope Petter (or Phil) carries a lantern then. And they better watch out for the trolls in the basement. Nasty things. But I hear they like brown sacks containing a lunch.
:lol: Gold! Gold I tell you.
Well, I hope Petter (or Phil) carries a lantern then. And they better watch out for the trolls in the basement. Nasty things. But I hear they like brown sacks containing a lunch.
| KAX | 05-18-2006 04:05 PM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]You think it's fair if his codriver got out and started smacking him for "being a ****ty driver"?[/QUOTE]
i think Lindstrom was ready to do that when Mikko was driving for subaru and Kaj was the co-driver. He got so pissed cuz Mikko was doing horrible and crashed.
i think Lindstrom was ready to do that when Mikko was driving for subaru and Kaj was the co-driver. He got so pissed cuz Mikko was doing horrible and crashed.
| datageek | 05-18-2006 09:42 PM |
[QUOTE=rallymaniac]I don't know, if co-driver miscalls the turn i'd be pretty pissed too. You can get killed by POS mistake like this.
[/QUOTE]
When Gigi smacked his codriver it wasn't because the codriver made a wrong call. It was after the flying finish but before they got to the time control. His codriver (Guido D'Amore, at the time) told Gigi his time, and added something like "you need to go faster" or something, which is what got him smacked.
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When Gigi smacked his codriver it wasn't because the codriver made a wrong call. It was after the flying finish but before they got to the time control. His codriver (Guido D'Amore, at the time) told Gigi his time, and added something like "you need to go faster" or something, which is what got him smacked.
| datageek | 05-18-2006 09:44 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]i think Lindstrom was ready to do that when Mikko was driving for subaru and Kaj was the co-driver. He got so pissed cuz Mikko was doing horrible and crashed.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure which incident you are refering to, but Mikko's codriver is Jarmo Lehtinen, and has been since 2003. Kaj was codriving for Kristian Sohlberg in 2004 when Mikko was at Subaru.
I'm not sure which incident you are refering to, but Mikko's codriver is Jarmo Lehtinen, and has been since 2003. Kaj was codriving for Kristian Sohlberg in 2004 when Mikko was at Subaru.
| datageek | 05-18-2006 09:45 PM |
Forgot to mention in the other replies... Congrats to Chris Atkinson for scoring joint fastest time on shakedown. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.
| chairmandave | 05-19-2006 04:58 AM |
Stage one summary from WRC.com:
SS1: Gronholm takes early lead
BP-Ford World Rally Team's Marcus Gronholm came out firing after the first stage of Rally d'Italia Sardegna - Terranova 1. After taking the quickest time during yesterday's [18 May], Gronholm posted the fastest time by 12.1 seconds ahead of the next quickest driver.
Solberg's team-mate, Chris Atkinson, finished the stage with the second overall quickest time on the opening stage. Atkinson completed the stage with a time of 17 minutes 19.0 seconds. Atkinson complained of minor differential and throttle problems after the stage completed, but he still managed to complete it 5.7 seconds ahead of his team-mate.
Gronholm's young team-mate - Mikko Hirvonen - finished the stage with the third quickest time. Hirvonen finished with a time of 14.1 seconds behind his team-mate and two seconds behind Atkinson.
Subaru World Rally Team's Petter Solberg captured the fourth quickest time on the opening stage of Rally d'Italia Sardegna. Solberg completed the stage with minor damage to the front right side of his Subaru Impreza WRC2006. Solberg stated after the stage he suffered from a spin and sat still for 'quite some time'. Solberg finished the stage with a 0.2 second advantage over Sebastien Loeb.
Kronos Total Citroen World Rally Team's Sebastien Loeb finished the 2005 running of the Italian rally with the overall victory, but the Frenchman had a slow start to the first stage of the morning. Loeb - due to his standings in the drivers' championship - was first on the road and played a major part in sweeping the gravel for the drivers behind him. Loeb finished 18.0 seconds off his main rival in the drivers' championship - Marcus Gronholm - with the fifth fastest time on the opening stage.
The 2005 FIA Junior World Rally Championship drivers' champion - Dani Sordo - completed the stage with the sixth quickest time, 6.8 seconds behind Loeb. Sordo is 24.8 seconds behind Gronholm leading into the second stage of the morning. Xavier Pons completed the stage 29.2 seconds behind the leader and captured the seventh quickest time on the first stage.
The first stage of the first Leg was somewhat of a disappointment for the Peugeot drivers. Pirelli-backed Gigi Galli suffered a spin in his red and yellow Peugeot 307 and finished 42.1 seconds behind stage leader Marcus Gronholm. Manfred Stohl, who is competing in his 101st FIA World Rally Championship event, also complained of a problem but was unable to identify the cause at the end of the opening stage. Stohl finished the stage with a time of 17 minutes 41.1 seconds - 34.2 seconds off the leader's pace. Henning Solberg, fresh from his first ever FIA World Rally Championship stage victory in Rallye Argentina last month, finished the test with the eighth overall quickest time - the highest of the Peugeot drivers.
Matthew Wilson also completed the opening stage with a damaged car. His Ford Focus had a damaged rear suspension and completed the stage well off the leader's time. Wilson, who had just captured his first ever FIA WRC drivers' points in Rallye Argentina and his first ever stage victory in the Cordoba Stadium, finished Terranova 1 with a blistering 11 minutes 35.7 seconds behind Gronholm's time. Wilson complained that there might have been a rock in the middle of the stage less than a kilometre into the first contest.
SS1: Gronholm takes early lead
BP-Ford World Rally Team's Marcus Gronholm came out firing after the first stage of Rally d'Italia Sardegna - Terranova 1. After taking the quickest time during yesterday's [18 May], Gronholm posted the fastest time by 12.1 seconds ahead of the next quickest driver.
Solberg's team-mate, Chris Atkinson, finished the stage with the second overall quickest time on the opening stage. Atkinson completed the stage with a time of 17 minutes 19.0 seconds. Atkinson complained of minor differential and throttle problems after the stage completed, but he still managed to complete it 5.7 seconds ahead of his team-mate.
Gronholm's young team-mate - Mikko Hirvonen - finished the stage with the third quickest time. Hirvonen finished with a time of 14.1 seconds behind his team-mate and two seconds behind Atkinson.
Subaru World Rally Team's Petter Solberg captured the fourth quickest time on the opening stage of Rally d'Italia Sardegna. Solberg completed the stage with minor damage to the front right side of his Subaru Impreza WRC2006. Solberg stated after the stage he suffered from a spin and sat still for 'quite some time'. Solberg finished the stage with a 0.2 second advantage over Sebastien Loeb.
Kronos Total Citroen World Rally Team's Sebastien Loeb finished the 2005 running of the Italian rally with the overall victory, but the Frenchman had a slow start to the first stage of the morning. Loeb - due to his standings in the drivers' championship - was first on the road and played a major part in sweeping the gravel for the drivers behind him. Loeb finished 18.0 seconds off his main rival in the drivers' championship - Marcus Gronholm - with the fifth fastest time on the opening stage.
The 2005 FIA Junior World Rally Championship drivers' champion - Dani Sordo - completed the stage with the sixth quickest time, 6.8 seconds behind Loeb. Sordo is 24.8 seconds behind Gronholm leading into the second stage of the morning. Xavier Pons completed the stage 29.2 seconds behind the leader and captured the seventh quickest time on the first stage.
The first stage of the first Leg was somewhat of a disappointment for the Peugeot drivers. Pirelli-backed Gigi Galli suffered a spin in his red and yellow Peugeot 307 and finished 42.1 seconds behind stage leader Marcus Gronholm. Manfred Stohl, who is competing in his 101st FIA World Rally Championship event, also complained of a problem but was unable to identify the cause at the end of the opening stage. Stohl finished the stage with a time of 17 minutes 41.1 seconds - 34.2 seconds off the leader's pace. Henning Solberg, fresh from his first ever FIA World Rally Championship stage victory in Rallye Argentina last month, finished the test with the eighth overall quickest time - the highest of the Peugeot drivers.
Matthew Wilson also completed the opening stage with a damaged car. His Ford Focus had a damaged rear suspension and completed the stage well off the leader's time. Wilson, who had just captured his first ever FIA WRC drivers' points in Rallye Argentina and his first ever stage victory in the Cordoba Stadium, finished Terranova 1 with a blistering 11 minutes 35.7 seconds behind Gronholm's time. Wilson complained that there might have been a rock in the middle of the stage less than a kilometre into the first contest.
| CirrusWRX | 05-19-2006 09:38 AM |
[QUOTE=theicewall]
ps- it sucks, but historically co-drivers are just supposed to take the abuse (though its usually verbal and not directed at them per say) and do anything they can to keep their driver high spirited and confident. I remember an interview with Mills where he basically said sometimes he says nothing if he feels a response will aggrivate petter more than whatever annoyed him in the first place.[/QUOTE]
That's interesting - I wonder how often they have to get new helmets to accomodate the ever-changing head sizes... :lol:
ps- it sucks, but historically co-drivers are just supposed to take the abuse (though its usually verbal and not directed at them per say) and do anything they can to keep their driver high spirited and confident. I remember an interview with Mills where he basically said sometimes he says nothing if he feels a response will aggrivate petter more than whatever annoyed him in the first place.[/QUOTE]
That's interesting - I wonder how often they have to get new helmets to accomodate the ever-changing head sizes... :lol:
| th3w0rm | 05-19-2006 01:49 PM |
From SWRT.com
[quote]SS6: 1715 Siniscola 2 (22.25km)
In a disappointing turn of events for Subaru, Petter Solberg retired on the final stage of the Leg. The Norwegian started the test on two punctured rear tyres but by the 14km point the tyres were so badly damaged he pulled off the road. Petter will restart Leg two with a five minute penalty.[/quote]
Not again. :( After the first stage both subaru cars really started dropping.
[quote]SS6: 1715 Siniscola 2 (22.25km)
In a disappointing turn of events for Subaru, Petter Solberg retired on the final stage of the Leg. The Norwegian started the test on two punctured rear tyres but by the 14km point the tyres were so badly damaged he pulled off the road. Petter will restart Leg two with a five minute penalty.[/quote]
Not again. :( After the first stage both subaru cars really started dropping.
| WRXedUSA | 05-19-2006 03:47 PM |
What a disaster.
| XenoWolf | 05-19-2006 05:03 PM |
[url=http://www.wrc.com/page/News/BreakingNewsDetail/0,,10111~831153,00.html]Leg One Report[/url]
Galli is still in the points, and is closing up on Sordo. :banana:
Galli is still in the points, and is closing up on Sordo. :banana:
| Thumper23 | 05-19-2006 06:09 PM |
wow, another typical rally for Subaru :(
| WRXedUSA | 05-19-2006 11:22 PM |
The wheels have fallen off.
Literally.
Retired because he blew up every tire on the car. wow. just wow.
Literally.
Retired because he blew up every tire on the car. wow. just wow.
| Slick33 | 05-20-2006 12:07 AM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX]so now you're down to about $4 per rally.[/QUOTE]
Not quite. You're at $4 per "episode," of which there are 4 per event (preview + 3 days; I'm not counting the wrap-up episode), which makes it $16 per rally, not $4. As much as I love WRC, I just can't justify spending $300 to sit on my couch and watch it.
Also, I found it wierd that they claim each rally review runs just under an hour (not counting the preview show). Strangely, that doesn't add up with the eurosport coverage, which is typically about 30 minutes a day (with commercials deleted), so I wonder what footage gets cut...
Not quite. You're at $4 per "episode," of which there are 4 per event (preview + 3 days; I'm not counting the wrap-up episode), which makes it $16 per rally, not $4. As much as I love WRC, I just can't justify spending $300 to sit on my couch and watch it.
Also, I found it wierd that they claim each rally review runs just under an hour (not counting the preview show). Strangely, that doesn't add up with the eurosport coverage, which is typically about 30 minutes a day (with commercials deleted), so I wonder what footage gets cut...
| mexicanpizza | 05-20-2006 12:36 AM |
Torrent for Day 1 yet?
| theicewall | 05-20-2006 05:26 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]The wheels have fallen off.
Literally.
Retired because he blew up every tire on the car. wow. just wow.[/QUOTE]
The theme of this season seems to be either a part falls off the subaru, or a part doesnt fall off the subaru and as a result of petter being able to drive the car having all of its parts on it, Pirelli proves that it sucks at making durable tires. Every single race this season Petter has complained about tires... "we dont know if the tires are going to last", "we feel that the tires may have been improved".. but yet the cars are spinning out all day long... "Petter has experienced a blow out and is now driving on three, no.. two.. no... i mean bare rims"... come on... F* Pirelli, they can't make a damn tire for anything anymore.
Literally.
Retired because he blew up every tire on the car. wow. just wow.[/QUOTE]
The theme of this season seems to be either a part falls off the subaru, or a part doesnt fall off the subaru and as a result of petter being able to drive the car having all of its parts on it, Pirelli proves that it sucks at making durable tires. Every single race this season Petter has complained about tires... "we dont know if the tires are going to last", "we feel that the tires may have been improved".. but yet the cars are spinning out all day long... "Petter has experienced a blow out and is now driving on three, no.. two.. no... i mean bare rims"... come on... F* Pirelli, they can't make a damn tire for anything anymore.
| SeveredPerformance | 05-21-2006 03:42 PM |
Petter holds his tongue...
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I love that interview at the end of Day 1.
Interviewer guy: "Petter...something something disappointing something something"
(1 minute pause as Petter looks between crying and strangling someone)
Petter: "Something disappointing something something we had some problems something something"
Interview guy: "Was it the Pirelli tires?"
Petter: (30 sec. pause) "We had some problems...it's very difficult to talk about it all the time, we had to retire"
Interview guy: "What can the team and Pirelli do to get on the pace"
Petter (10 sec. pause): "Talk to the guys in charge of the team...they have a better answer"
You know the interview guy just wanted Petter to say "These Pirelli tires are crap" And it looked like he wanted to say it......
Oh well..at least he worked back to 8th by the end of day 2. Now to wait until Day 3 to see what misadventure awaits.. :(
Interviewer guy: "Petter...something something disappointing something something"
(1 minute pause as Petter looks between crying and strangling someone)
Petter: "Something disappointing something something we had some problems something something"
Interview guy: "Was it the Pirelli tires?"
Petter: (30 sec. pause) "We had some problems...it's very difficult to talk about it all the time, we had to retire"
Interview guy: "What can the team and Pirelli do to get on the pace"
Petter (10 sec. pause): "Talk to the guys in charge of the team...they have a better answer"
You know the interview guy just wanted Petter to say "These Pirelli tires are crap" And it looked like he wanted to say it......
Oh well..at least he worked back to 8th by the end of day 2. Now to wait until Day 3 to see what misadventure awaits.. :(
| WRXedUSA | 05-21-2006 03:53 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]IBloebwinsit[/QUOTE]
I'll take my winnings in $100 denominations.
Overall times after SS18 / Leg 3 - Top 20:
1. Sebastien Loeb Kronos Citroen Xsara WRC 06 3hours 54mins 18.9secs M1
2. Mikko Hirvonen BP Ford Focus RS WRC 06 +02mins 41.4secs M1
3. Daniel Sordo Kronos Citroen Xsara WRC +03mins 27.7secs
4. Xavier Pons Kronos Citroen Xsara WRC 06 +05mins 28.2secs M1
5. Jussi Valimaki Mitsubishi Lancer WRC +07mins 08.8secs
6. Kristian Sohlberg Atolye Kazaz Subaru Impreza +07mins 36.9secs
7. Manfred Stohl OMV Peugeot Norway 307 WRC +08mins 18.4secs M2
8. Francois Duval First Skoda Fabia WRC +09mins 45.8secs
9. Petter Solberg Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 +10mins 19.9secs M1
10. Chris Atkinson Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 +11mins 03.9secs M1
11. Gareth MacHale Ford Focus WRC +14mins 59.5secs
12. Luis Perez Companc Stobart VK Ford Focus WRC +16mins 05.5secs
13. Andreas Aigner Red Bull Skoda Fabia WRC 05 +21mins 00.8secs M2
14. Juho Hanninen Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +28mins 04.1secs
15. Patrick Sandell Renault Clio Super 1600 +32mins 06.3secs J
16. Conrad Rautenbach Renault Clio Super 1600 +37mins 14.7secs J
17. Jan Kopecky Czech RT Skoda Fabia WRC +37mins 16.8secs
18. Urmo Aava Suzuki Swift S1600 +37mins 43.1secs J
19. Alan Scorcioni Subaru Impreza +37mins 46.3secs
20. Harri Rovanpera Red Bull Skoda Fabia WRC 06 +38mins 57.1secs M2
I'll take my winnings in $100 denominations.
Overall times after SS18 / Leg 3 - Top 20:
1. Sebastien Loeb Kronos Citroen Xsara WRC 06 3hours 54mins 18.9secs M1
2. Mikko Hirvonen BP Ford Focus RS WRC 06 +02mins 41.4secs M1
3. Daniel Sordo Kronos Citroen Xsara WRC +03mins 27.7secs
4. Xavier Pons Kronos Citroen Xsara WRC 06 +05mins 28.2secs M1
5. Jussi Valimaki Mitsubishi Lancer WRC +07mins 08.8secs
6. Kristian Sohlberg Atolye Kazaz Subaru Impreza +07mins 36.9secs
7. Manfred Stohl OMV Peugeot Norway 307 WRC +08mins 18.4secs M2
8. Francois Duval First Skoda Fabia WRC +09mins 45.8secs
9. Petter Solberg Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 +10mins 19.9secs M1
10. Chris Atkinson Subaru WRT Impreza WRC 2006 +11mins 03.9secs M1
11. Gareth MacHale Ford Focus WRC +14mins 59.5secs
12. Luis Perez Companc Stobart VK Ford Focus WRC +16mins 05.5secs
13. Andreas Aigner Red Bull Skoda Fabia WRC 05 +21mins 00.8secs M2
14. Juho Hanninen Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +28mins 04.1secs
15. Patrick Sandell Renault Clio Super 1600 +32mins 06.3secs J
16. Conrad Rautenbach Renault Clio Super 1600 +37mins 14.7secs J
17. Jan Kopecky Czech RT Skoda Fabia WRC +37mins 16.8secs
18. Urmo Aava Suzuki Swift S1600 +37mins 43.1secs J
19. Alan Scorcioni Subaru Impreza +37mins 46.3secs
20. Harri Rovanpera Red Bull Skoda Fabia WRC 06 +38mins 57.1secs M2
| XenoWolf | 05-21-2006 04:43 PM |
This is getting depressing.
| KAX | 05-21-2006 06:54 PM |
[QUOTE=datageek]I'm not sure which incident you are refering to, but Mikko's codriver is Jarmo Lehtinen, and has been since 2003. Kaj was codriving for Kristian Sohlberg in 2004 when Mikko was at Subaru.[/QUOTE]
maybe that was it. I just remember Kaj co driving for someone who was just getting started, I assumed it was Mikko since he was at subaru at the time. I know it wasn't a season long arrangement, but for 1 or 2 rallies.
PS. does anyone have the link to the Pirhana community they can PM me? I got a new computer and lost all my bookmarks and cant remember the link. thanks in advance.
maybe that was it. I just remember Kaj co driving for someone who was just getting started, I assumed it was Mikko since he was at subaru at the time. I know it wasn't a season long arrangement, but for 1 or 2 rallies.
PS. does anyone have the link to the Pirhana community they can PM me? I got a new computer and lost all my bookmarks and cant remember the link. thanks in advance.
| FTD | 05-21-2006 06:55 PM |
It's not that bad, SWRT only got beat by a couple of almost privateers and a Skoda.... OK maybe it is THAT bad. :lol:
Well privateer teams really don't exist at that level, but they were beaten by some teams with a much lower budget.
If Subaru's team management doesn't get things together since their reorganization, many Subaru fans are going to have little reason to want WRC coverage back on SPEED.
Well privateer teams really don't exist at that level, but they were beaten by some teams with a much lower budget.
If Subaru's team management doesn't get things together since their reorganization, many Subaru fans are going to have little reason to want WRC coverage back on SPEED.
| bjorn240 | 05-21-2006 08:25 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]i think Lindstrom was ready to do that when Mikko was driving for subaru and Kaj was the co-driver. He got so pissed cuz Mikko was doing horrible and crashed.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't Mikko. It was Tobias Johansson in the Olsbergs Subaru WRC at Rally Mexico 2005.
- Christian
That wasn't Mikko. It was Tobias Johansson in the Olsbergs Subaru WRC at Rally Mexico 2005.
- Christian
| Chromer | 05-21-2006 08:26 PM |
[QUOTE=mexicanpizza]Torrent for Day 1 yet?[/QUOTE]
isohunt.com has torrents for day 1 and 2 so far. Coming in MUCH faster than from Stanis' site. Just put in "sardinia" for the search term.
isohunt.com has torrents for day 1 and 2 so far. Coming in MUCH faster than from Stanis' site. Just put in "sardinia" for the search term.
| Subaru Junkie | 05-21-2006 10:35 PM |
[url]http://www.motorsport-torrents.info/[/url]
| KAX | 05-21-2006 10:54 PM |
just started watching the torrents. anyone else think Gigi Galli has a kinda Michael Schumacher look to him?
| flatovercrest | 05-22-2006 12:00 AM |
[QUOTE=rallymaniac]I don't know how long Gali will drive in peugeot since Pirelli said that they're pulling out of the WRC with their brand.[/QUOTE]
From this weeks' Autosport magazine: Pirelli management confirmed Sardinia was the last event for Gigi under the Pirelli sponsorship and the budget allocated for that program has been used all.
He did an impressive job for sure.
Alex Gelsomino
From this weeks' Autosport magazine: Pirelli management confirmed Sardinia was the last event for Gigi under the Pirelli sponsorship and the budget allocated for that program has been used all.
He did an impressive job for sure.
Alex Gelsomino
| KAX | 05-22-2006 12:29 AM |
[QUOTE=flatovercrest]From this weeks' Autosport magazine: Pirelli management confirmed Sardinia was the last event for Gigi under the Pirelli sponsorship and the budget allocated for that program has been used all.
He did an impressive job for sure.
Alex Gelsomino[/QUOTE]
Sardinia should be last event for the pirelli-subaru partnership too. this seasons subaru misfortunes can be mostly blamed on the tires, minus a few subaru hickups.
He did an impressive job for sure.
Alex Gelsomino[/QUOTE]
Sardinia should be last event for the pirelli-subaru partnership too. this seasons subaru misfortunes can be mostly blamed on the tires, minus a few subaru hickups.
| mexicanpizza | 05-22-2006 12:56 AM |
[QUOTE=Chromer]isohunt.com has torrents for day 1 and 2 so far. Coming in MUCH faster than from Stanis' site. Just put in "sardinia" for the search term.[/QUOTE]
Yup, they came up on torrentspy today too. Got em both, now will be seeding for a couple of days. Hoping I can pull Day 3 before I leave for the UK tomorrow morning. :D
Yup, they came up on torrentspy today too. Got em both, now will be seeding for a couple of days. Hoping I can pull Day 3 before I leave for the UK tomorrow morning. :D
| FaastLegacy | 05-22-2006 03:04 AM |
[QUOTE=theicewall]The theme of this season seems to be either a part falls off the subaru, or a part doesnt fall off the subaru and as a result of petter being able to drive the car having all of its parts on it, Pirelli proves that it sucks at making durable tires. Every single race this season Petter has complained about tires... "we dont know if the tires are going to last", "we feel that the tires may have been improved".. but yet the cars are spinning out all day long... "Petter has experienced a blow out and is now driving on three, no.. two.. no... i mean bare rims"... come on... F* Pirelli, they can't make a damn tire for anything anymore.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Petter has complained. he's been very diplomatically holding his tongue. Smart guy.
I wouldn't say Petter has complained. he's been very diplomatically holding his tongue. Smart guy.
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