| MF-DIF | 03-17-2007 05:31 PM |
How I spent my St. Patties day, $20 flaps -- [email�protected]
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Went to pepboys to get an oil filter and windshield fluid and saw these. They are Groboski truck mudflaps, $9.99 a pair. You will also need some 1/4" nylon screw-type pop-rivets to attach. They can be found at pepboys too for 1.99$ for a multi-pack. I used the cardboard packaging to trace my template.
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0001-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0003-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0005-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0007-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/0318071822.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Edit: Update!![/B]
Guys for those of you who are scraping everywhere and want slightly less aggressive flap for dailys, I found these for [B].98c[/B] at Autozone! These ones are 9" wide instead of 12" wide. Also they have a double re-enforced area to prevent warping after extended use.
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0001-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0018-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0001-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0003-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0005-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0007-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/0318071822.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Edit: Update!![/B]
Guys for those of you who are scraping everywhere and want slightly less aggressive flap for dailys, I found these for [B].98c[/B] at Autozone! These ones are 9" wide instead of 12" wide. Also they have a double re-enforced area to prevent warping after extended use.
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0001-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0017.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0018-1.jpg[/IMG]
| sportz135 | 03-17-2007 05:34 PM |
looks good, nice DIY
| ScoobySnacker | 03-17-2007 08:51 PM |
They look really wide. It might just be me.
| Mr. Sadface | 03-17-2007 09:22 PM |
"Wider is better".
| kirkeemonster | 03-17-2007 09:53 PM |
are they as stiff as the rallyarmours?
passanger looks lower than drivers
passanger looks lower than drivers
| MF-DIF | 03-17-2007 10:03 PM |
The ground is uneven in the parking lot. I used the same template on each side to make sure its even.
The flaps are pretty stiff and hard. Not rubbery and flimsy. I scrap them on speed bumps but at only $20 im not worried.
The flaps are pretty stiff and hard. Not rubbery and flimsy. I scrap them on speed bumps but at only $20 im not worried.
| J-boogie | 03-17-2007 10:07 PM |
I'm just curious. Why would one want mudflaps? You did a nice job none the less...
| Letx | 03-17-2007 11:18 PM |
nice cheap mod, I need to do this. Fronts & rears are the exact same measurements?
| rkramer | 03-17-2007 11:31 PM |
[QUOTE=J-boogie;17392323]I'm just curious. Why would one want mudflaps? You did a nice job none the less...[/QUOTE]
keeps the car MUCH cleaner when driving in snow/mud/slush... They also prevent alot of rock chips behind the wheel wells.
keeps the car MUCH cleaner when driving in snow/mud/slush... They also prevent alot of rock chips behind the wheel wells.
| UM-WRXer | 03-17-2007 11:32 PM |
nice job. They look just like the RA's i have. Cool DIY
| EnterTheDragon | 03-17-2007 11:40 PM |
[QUOTE=J-boogie;17392323]I'm just curious. Why would one want mudflaps? You did a nice job none the less...[/QUOTE]
I didn't need them either until I put on a pair of 18x8 wheels.....it was painfully obvious how much crap they were picking up and throwing onto the sides of my car the first time it rained. Plus I think its an aggresive look in person.
I didn't need them either until I put on a pair of 18x8 wheels.....it was painfully obvious how much crap they were picking up and throwing onto the sides of my car the first time it rained. Plus I think its an aggresive look in person.
| MF-DIF | 03-18-2007 01:12 AM |
[QUOTE=Letx;17392805]nice cheap mod, I need to do this. Fronts & rears are the exact same measurements?[/QUOTE]
Yup both the same.
Yup both the same.
| JohnnyWas | 03-18-2007 01:15 AM |
haha -- youknow, i meant to do the SAME thing for the winter, but my tranny fell out over a month ago, so there's really no need
lol@$89 flaps
lol@$89 flaps
| SnaP | 03-18-2007 09:23 AM |
"fits all pickups, vans, suv's"
lol
lol
| Subie Gal | 03-18-2007 10:14 AM |
my first set o mud flaps cost me $9.99 as well :lol:
well done! looks good :D
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
well done! looks good :D
Jamie [url=http://www.subiegal.com/][img]http://www.subiegal.com/subiegal-smilie.png[/img][/url]
| jac04 | 03-18-2007 06:05 PM |
I used the exact same ones to make the flaps for my Legacy. I used slightly thicker versions from NAPA to make flaps for my WRX, but they are now discontinued. The pepboys flaps are very durable & flexible (I've had them on through 2 winters), but they will start to take a permanent 'bent back' set after a while. Not a big deal.
Excellent job - simple, effective, and inexpensive. I still can't believe anyone would pay $$$ for an ugly set of flaps with a horrible looking logo on them.
Excellent job - simple, effective, and inexpensive. I still can't believe anyone would pay $$$ for an ugly set of flaps with a horrible looking logo on them.
| kennyvb | 03-18-2007 06:11 PM |
good job
| IllNastyImpreza | 03-18-2007 06:14 PM |
I'd rather just not drive through the mud :p
| druxboyz | 03-18-2007 06:15 PM |
what kidna tires do you have on?
| Ryan314 | 03-18-2007 06:45 PM |
Rally Armor Limited Edition flaps.... FTW!!!!!
| 2.5 SUBY | 03-18-2007 06:47 PM |
Im rockin the same mudflaps.. i got the smaller ones tho.. work great as a 20$ DIY
| MF-DIF | 03-18-2007 07:25 PM |
[QUOTE=druxboyz;17398036]what kidna tires do you have on?[/QUOTE]
225/45/17 - kumho mx
They look beefier than the other 225/45s I've used.
225/45/17 - kumho mx
They look beefier than the other 225/45s I've used.
| iheartmysuby | 03-18-2007 07:37 PM |
oh yea... my rallyarmor lolz at your 20dollar flapz.
| pleue | 03-19-2007 06:33 PM |
i have the same ones, cut a bit different. have worked very well for 3 years and counting.
| eurospek | 03-19-2007 06:51 PM |
Look great!
| Letx | 03-19-2007 07:01 PM |
i'm about to attempt this. they cost me $11.99 over here. did you use the stock pop rivets on the inside? or did you get totally new ones? any pics of the process? i don't wanna screw up my cheapo flaps
| Aaron'z 2.5RS | 03-19-2007 07:30 PM |
I did the SAME THING... 100bucks for mud flaps, not in my lifetime
I used these "spring nuts" that you can get from Subaru, they are plastic, but have a stainless nuts inside them, used stainless screws to... And a piece of stainless "flat stock" that runs from the connection point to the far inside of the flap, so they would curl toward the inside edge...
I have pics, but not my computer at the moment, this is that best i could come up with, and while they do help with rocks and such, not so much with "high speed" mud...
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/sublimewind/RIM01167.jpg[/IMG]
I used these "spring nuts" that you can get from Subaru, they are plastic, but have a stainless nuts inside them, used stainless screws to... And a piece of stainless "flat stock" that runs from the connection point to the far inside of the flap, so they would curl toward the inside edge...
I have pics, but not my computer at the moment, this is that best i could come up with, and while they do help with rocks and such, not so much with "high speed" mud...
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/sublimewind/RIM01167.jpg[/IMG]
| soundslikeboxer | 03-19-2007 07:43 PM |
howd you make the template?
| MF-DIF | 03-19-2007 08:03 PM |
[QUOTE=soundslikeboxer;17411399]howd you make the template?[/QUOTE]
The mudflaps are precut from the package like that, I did no trimming. I used new pop-rivets because the stock ones tend to break when you remove them, I didn't want to take multiple trips to the store. Also the stockers are very short. With the added thickness of the flaps I doubt they would hold. The mudflaps come with some black screws too. I used 2 of theses in addition to 2 poppers to secure the rear.
The mudflaps are precut from the package like that, I did no trimming. I used new pop-rivets because the stock ones tend to break when you remove them, I didn't want to take multiple trips to the store. Also the stockers are very short. With the added thickness of the flaps I doubt they would hold. The mudflaps come with some black screws too. I used 2 of theses in addition to 2 poppers to secure the rear.
| ASMITHWRX | 03-19-2007 08:25 PM |
I think I just found a project for my next free evening. Great post.:banana:
| AutomagicWRX | 03-19-2007 11:15 PM |
[quote=Ryan314;17398277]Rally Armor Limited Edition flaps.... FTW!!!!![/quote]
+1....
+1....
| Letx | 03-19-2007 11:40 PM |
is anyone scraping on bumps or driveways w/ their flaps? i think mine might be too low. damn. time to redo my fronts.
| JIN | 03-20-2007 12:38 AM |
[QUOTE=MF-DIF;17392280]The ground is uneven in the parking lot. I used the same template on each side to make sure its even.
The flaps are pretty stiff and hard. Not rubbery and flimsy. I scrap them on speed bumps but at only $20 im not worried.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I thought it better that they are rubbery. This way, they don't start dragging everything.
The flaps are pretty stiff and hard. Not rubbery and flimsy. I scrap them on speed bumps but at only $20 im not worried.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I thought it better that they are rubbery. This way, they don't start dragging everything.
| Letx | 03-20-2007 02:14 AM |
rears are complete. fronts are scraping on bumps/driveways so I have to do something about that.
here's some pics of my rear now
[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/rearflap3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/thinhrearflap2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/rearflaps1.jpg[/IMG]
here's some pics of my rear now
[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/rearflap3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/thinhrearflap2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/imthinhle/rearflaps1.jpg[/IMG]
| druxboyz | 03-20-2007 02:17 AM |
^^ i sense dry lakebed fun in the near future.
| imprezaowner27 | 03-20-2007 02:57 AM |
and i just found out what my next purchase will be...
thank you!
thank you!
| Letx | 03-20-2007 03:01 AM |
dooo it. i'm happy w/ mine
| wacerx | 03-20-2007 04:36 AM |
o i am so doing this for the johnson valley meet. keep the rocks and dirt down a bit. enough to keep it off the paint although the dust is ridiculous. good find.
| fastwrx25 | 03-20-2007 05:49 AM |
awesome mod. Looks nice.
you are right about lol'ing at the prices they sell mud flaps for.
you are right about lol'ing at the prices they sell mud flaps for.
| Costas | 03-20-2007 07:11 AM |
[QUOTE=fastwrx25;17416297]awesome mod. Looks nice.
you are right about lol'ing at the prices they sell mud flaps for.[/QUOTE]
Should you compare apples to apples, but there is a tremendous difference between those and R/As (and various others of course)
Others are about about 3x-4x thicker than those (in pic)
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/compare.jpg[/IMG]
The thickness is important with those types of materials as it will help the flap keep it shape and resist curling better (to function and look good over time as well)
Since they are quite thinner, it makes them foldable almost like like a piece of paper
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/g_flap.jpg[/IMG]
and actually stay that way (until you fold them back) -the material itself being very similar to a report binder
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/binder.jpg[/IMG]
there is also the finish to consider as well and how it looks (and most importantly functions) on the vehicle. In comparison to the R/A's textured automotive matte finish (on the classic RA flaps not the urethane version) that material itself is quite prone to scratching as it really has no texture to it
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/finish.jpg[/IMG]
that was actually straight from the package and placed on the table- (think it was my fingernail?)
As a DYI and on a budget, those can most certainly work, but are not of equal comparison. :)
you are right about lol'ing at the prices they sell mud flaps for.[/QUOTE]
Should you compare apples to apples, but there is a tremendous difference between those and R/As (and various others of course)
Others are about about 3x-4x thicker than those (in pic)
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/compare.jpg[/IMG]
The thickness is important with those types of materials as it will help the flap keep it shape and resist curling better (to function and look good over time as well)
Since they are quite thinner, it makes them foldable almost like like a piece of paper
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/g_flap.jpg[/IMG]
and actually stay that way (until you fold them back) -the material itself being very similar to a report binder
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/binder.jpg[/IMG]
there is also the finish to consider as well and how it looks (and most importantly functions) on the vehicle. In comparison to the R/A's textured automotive matte finish (on the classic RA flaps not the urethane version) that material itself is quite prone to scratching as it really has no texture to it
[IMG]http://www.searchenginefuel.com/flaps/finish.jpg[/IMG]
that was actually straight from the package and placed on the table- (think it was my fingernail?)
As a DYI and on a budget, those can most certainly work, but are not of equal comparison. :)
| ScoobyThing | 03-20-2007 08:59 AM |
[QUOTE=Costas;17416438]Should you compare apples to apples, but there is a tremendous difference between those and R/As (and various others of course)
that was actually straight from the package and placed on the table- (think it was my fingernail?)
As a DYI and on a budget, those can most certainly work, but are not of equal comparison. :)[/QUOTE]
^^^^^^^^ OBVIOUSLY works for rallyarmor :rolleyes: DYIFTW! :lol:
that was actually straight from the package and placed on the table- (think it was my fingernail?)
As a DYI and on a budget, those can most certainly work, but are not of equal comparison. :)[/QUOTE]
^^^^^^^^ OBVIOUSLY works for rallyarmor :rolleyes: DYIFTW! :lol:
| Costas | 03-20-2007 09:08 AM |
Simply addressing the misperceptions need to be addressed, knowledge = good.
(I actually own R/A and we are currently researching releasing budget flap kits as well) ;)
Letx- if your rubbing on your DIY, try tapping the holes a bit lower from the original mounting points you used instead of cutting (this should raise them up- just make sure you can clear your wheels from lock to lock when turning)
(I actually own R/A and we are currently researching releasing budget flap kits as well) ;)
Letx- if your rubbing on your DIY, try tapping the holes a bit lower from the original mounting points you used instead of cutting (this should raise them up- just make sure you can clear your wheels from lock to lock when turning)
| CF-Ninja | 03-20-2007 10:16 AM |
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Pyranha905/Car%20Stereo/IMG_2253.jpg[/url]
Stockers FTW!
Stockers FTW!
| LUKEWMC | 03-20-2007 10:58 AM |
Nice DIY....like my rallyarmors but if i did it your way i could have gotten them a little closer to the ground for better coverage! good job man!
| VF34GRL | 03-20-2007 08:33 PM |
looks nice guys! I might have to try this!
| rstinut | 03-21-2007 12:51 AM |
man those are pretty nice for the money. but rally armour does have that certain premade, easy install feeling about them.
| imprezaowner27 | 03-21-2007 03:12 AM |
[quote=Costas;17417014]Simply addressing the misperceptions need to be addressed, knowledge = good.
(I actually own R/A and we are currently researching releasing budget flap kits as well) ;)
Letx- if your rubbing on your DIY, try tapping the holes a bit lower from the original mounting points you used instead of cutting (this should raise them up- just make sure you can clear your wheels from lock to lock when turning)[/quote]
yeah you should really get on that cheap version...if it wasnt so expensive id have them on my car right now
(I actually own R/A and we are currently researching releasing budget flap kits as well) ;)
Letx- if your rubbing on your DIY, try tapping the holes a bit lower from the original mounting points you used instead of cutting (this should raise them up- just make sure you can clear your wheels from lock to lock when turning)[/quote]
yeah you should really get on that cheap version...if it wasnt so expensive id have them on my car right now
| cpages2 | 03-21-2007 07:34 AM |
[QUOTE=Ryan314;17398277]Rally Armor Limited Edition flaps.... FTW!!!!![/QUOTE]
no...
Prodrive FTW.
no...
Prodrive FTW.
| MF-DIF | 03-21-2007 08:10 PM |
Guys found a compromise to the scrapping problem. I went to autozone and found these flaps for .98 a pair!! And then when they rang me up I got a set for free because of some type of savings promotion. $1 for a set of (4)flaps!
These are 9" wide vs. 12". I think I'll save the 12" for rallyx and use these as dailys. I'll post some pics after I get some time to put them on.
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0001-2.jpg[/IMG]
These are 9" wide vs. 12". I think I'll save the 12" for rallyx and use these as dailys. I'll post some pics after I get some time to put them on.
[IMG]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/MF-DIF/PICT0001-2.jpg[/IMG]
| dibblejr | 03-21-2007 08:36 PM |
They look nice and probably are ok for the warmer climates. However, I can imagine that at -30 deg they will probably bust off.
Not cutting your work down because I am in favor of saving a buck here and there. Good write up.
Now all you have to do is find a way to paint them.
Jay-R
Not cutting your work down because I am in favor of saving a buck here and there. Good write up.
Now all you have to do is find a way to paint them.
Jay-R
| KnightWRX | 03-21-2007 08:43 PM |
Been rockin the PepBoy flaps for a few months now. I like them just fine. :)
[IMG]http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/knightwrx/WRX%20pics/IMGA0926.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/knightwrx/WRX%20pics/IMGA0926.jpg[/IMG]
| Ryan314 | 03-21-2007 09:09 PM |
^ What is up with that scoop?! Never seen that before.
| CaptainRoin | 03-21-2007 09:23 PM |
[quote=Letx;17414345]is anyone scraping on bumps or driveways w/ their flaps? i think mine might be too low. damn. time to redo my fronts.[/quote]
My RA flaps drag at in high speed turns. Its so you know your f4str!!
[quote=dibblejr;17439652]They look nice and probably are ok for the warmer climates. However, I can imagine that at -30 deg they will probably bust off.
Not cutting your work down because I am in favor of saving a buck here and there. Good write up.
Now all you have to do is find a way to paint them.
Jay-R[/quote]
OOOHH idea: [URL]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1221470[/URL]
My RA flaps drag at in high speed turns. Its so you know your f4str!!
[quote=dibblejr;17439652]They look nice and probably are ok for the warmer climates. However, I can imagine that at -30 deg they will probably bust off.
Not cutting your work down because I am in favor of saving a buck here and there. Good write up.
Now all you have to do is find a way to paint them.
Jay-R[/quote]
OOOHH idea: [URL]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1221470[/URL]
| Letx | 03-21-2007 09:45 PM |
haha my front flaps drag @ low speed, going over bumps and onto driveways. i'll prob just make holes lower and raise them up a little
| KnightWRX | 03-21-2007 09:45 PM |
[quote=Ryan314;17440054]^ What is up with that scoop?! Never seen that before.[/quote]
Daddy's "Intimidator" 4" carbon fiber scoop. :cool:
[URL="http://www.daddysscp.com/dcart4/home.php?cat=15"]http://www.daddysscp.com/dcart4/home.php?cat=15[/URL]
Daddy's "Intimidator" 4" carbon fiber scoop. :cool:
[URL="http://www.daddysscp.com/dcart4/home.php?cat=15"]http://www.daddysscp.com/dcart4/home.php?cat=15[/URL]
| dibblejr | 03-21-2007 09:53 PM |
There's absolutely nothing wrong with your flaps scraping over bumps and ect. Thats what they do.
Jay-R
[QUOTE=Letx;17440530]haha my front flaps drag @ low speed, going over bumps and onto driveways. i'll prob just make holes lower and raise them up a little[/QUOTE]
Jay-R
[QUOTE=Letx;17440530]haha my front flaps drag @ low speed, going over bumps and onto driveways. i'll prob just make holes lower and raise them up a little[/QUOTE]
| udelslayer | 03-21-2007 11:00 PM |
I ran those generics on another car for 2 years in northeast weather/snow. No problems busting whatsoever. I did have to trim a bit to keep from scraping the wheels but they kept my sides clean.
| martinus | 03-22-2007 07:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Costas;17416438]Should you compare apples to apples, but there is a tremendous difference between those and R/As (and various others of course)
Others are about about 3x-4x thicker than those (in pic)
The thickness is important with those types of materials as it will help the flap keep it shape and resist curling better (to function and look good over time as well)
Since they are quite thinner, it makes them foldable almost like like a piece of paper
and actually stay that way (until you fold them back) -the material itself being very similar to a report binder
there is also the finish to consider as well and how it looks (and most importantly functions) on the vehicle. In comparison to the R/A's textured automotive matte finish (on the classic RA flaps not the urethane version) that material itself is quite prone to scratching as it really has no texture to it
that was actually straight from the package and placed on the table- (think it was my fingernail?)
As a DYI and on a budget, those can most certainly work, but are not of equal comparison. :)[/QUOTE]
OK. so the quality and the "performance" is there. The question I have...
Are they / could they be available in larger sizes ?
It would be nice, to have something from the top of the bumper, down to almost touching the ground. ( on a non-lowered car . ) Something less "streetable" and more, um... functional. I don't want to flame rally armor, but even the 200$ prodrive ones are tiny. Just my opinion.
Looking for actual ones that [i]work[/i].
Others are about about 3x-4x thicker than those (in pic)
The thickness is important with those types of materials as it will help the flap keep it shape and resist curling better (to function and look good over time as well)
Since they are quite thinner, it makes them foldable almost like like a piece of paper
and actually stay that way (until you fold them back) -the material itself being very similar to a report binder
there is also the finish to consider as well and how it looks (and most importantly functions) on the vehicle. In comparison to the R/A's textured automotive matte finish (on the classic RA flaps not the urethane version) that material itself is quite prone to scratching as it really has no texture to it
that was actually straight from the package and placed on the table- (think it was my fingernail?)
As a DYI and on a budget, those can most certainly work, but are not of equal comparison. :)[/QUOTE]
OK. so the quality and the "performance" is there. The question I have...
Are they / could they be available in larger sizes ?
It would be nice, to have something from the top of the bumper, down to almost touching the ground. ( on a non-lowered car . ) Something less "streetable" and more, um... functional. I don't want to flame rally armor, but even the 200$ prodrive ones are tiny. Just my opinion.
Looking for actual ones that [i]work[/i].
| R6_rider | 03-22-2007 10:43 PM |
hey what lowering springs do you have?
| MF-DIF | 03-23-2007 08:24 AM |
[QUOTE=R6_rider;17454588]hey what lowering springs do you have?[/QUOTE]
Eibach prokits.
Eibach prokits.
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