| BLK REX | 06-12-2006 06:35 PM |
[QUOTE=06STi]Close but no.[/QUOTE]
Care to explain then?
I love the people who say something with no proof/explanation.
Care to explain then?
I love the people who say something with no proof/explanation.
| Uncle Scotty | 06-12-2006 06:38 PM |
[QUOTE=BLK REX]Care to explain then?
I love the people who say something with no proof/explanation.[/QUOTE]
....the deeeeewwwwwwwwd don't know JACK :rolleyes: He's just blowin sunshine.
fine pitched threads are almost always used on ANY type of precision adjustment and almost all threads on anything on any transport class aircraft(or otherwise) are all fine(or extra fine)pitched.
I love the people who say something with no proof/explanation.[/QUOTE]
....the deeeeewwwwwwwwd don't know JACK :rolleyes: He's just blowin sunshine.
fine pitched threads are almost always used on ANY type of precision adjustment and almost all threads on anything on any transport class aircraft(or otherwise) are all fine(or extra fine)pitched.
| STi-JDM | 06-12-2006 06:44 PM |
^^^ lol, you're so funny uncle... we're here to ask a question (that's what a FORUM for...) so, why don't you just post like a NORMAL people and tell them whether it's right or not, useful or not, etc... why would you call everybody an idiot? I know you're not stupid. but being a smart guy doesn't mean you have to be a d&ckhead... ;)
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| SinisterSkube | 06-12-2006 06:48 PM |
[QUOTE=Chas Metivier]Wrx's come with a factory bar under the back seat. If you want to stiffen up the mid section of the car, Sparco harness bar will do it quit well, and you can attach racing harnesses to it![/QUOTE]
not to hi-jack but i just got a harness bar.... do you think ill see an improvement...... i dont have strut bars yet
not to hi-jack but i just got a harness bar.... do you think ill see an improvement...... i dont have strut bars yet
| Turn in Concepts | 06-12-2006 06:53 PM |
Guys, if you really wanted to stiffen things at the mid point there then you need to look at it a little different.
There are a couple of ways you can go on this.
First, find a way to mount a bar/beam UNDER the car so you don't have to put a HUGE strength robbing hump in the middle. Although one mesley beam straight across the body isn't gonna do much for torsional stress. You need to box in and then triangulate from a few points. Say perhaps the rear subframe outrigger mount plates (the fixed ones) to the rear tranny crossmember bolts with the front crossbar back enough to clear the driveshaft. Then you gotta figure out exhaust, and how to work around that.
Second, if you really want it stiff in the cabin then build an X brace that mounts near the outter seat anchors, and bolts up to the upper b-pillar ala a harness bar. Do note there are a few things to think about when doing this though. A) you're gonna need backing plates cause the floorpan itself just isn't strong enough. B) There is NO WAY IN HELL I'd want anyone riding around in the back seat with it in place.
There are a couple of ways you can go on this.
First, find a way to mount a bar/beam UNDER the car so you don't have to put a HUGE strength robbing hump in the middle. Although one mesley beam straight across the body isn't gonna do much for torsional stress. You need to box in and then triangulate from a few points. Say perhaps the rear subframe outrigger mount plates (the fixed ones) to the rear tranny crossmember bolts with the front crossbar back enough to clear the driveshaft. Then you gotta figure out exhaust, and how to work around that.
Second, if you really want it stiff in the cabin then build an X brace that mounts near the outter seat anchors, and bolts up to the upper b-pillar ala a harness bar. Do note there are a few things to think about when doing this though. A) you're gonna need backing plates cause the floorpan itself just isn't strong enough. B) There is NO WAY IN HELL I'd want anyone riding around in the back seat with it in place.
| 06STi | 06-12-2006 07:01 PM |
[QUOTE=BLK REX]Care to explain then?
I love the people who say something with no proof/explanation.[/QUOTE]
using a fine thread bolt give you more area per turn. = more grip strength
Also less chance of a stress riser because the threads are not cut as deep....Which will lead us onto another subject not here.
So MR. Aircraft Tech... Thats boeing 101.. Why did you not know this?
Go back to mopping around the aircraft.
Or can you use your enginerring talents on telling us this coat bar might improve torsion loads on the subie uni body??
I love the people who say something with no proof/explanation.[/QUOTE]
using a fine thread bolt give you more area per turn. = more grip strength
Also less chance of a stress riser because the threads are not cut as deep....Which will lead us onto another subject not here.
So MR. Aircraft Tech... Thats boeing 101.. Why did you not know this?
Go back to mopping around the aircraft.
Or can you use your enginerring talents on telling us this coat bar might improve torsion loads on the subie uni body??
| Uncle Scotty | 06-12-2006 07:03 PM |
[QUOTE=06STi]using a fine thread bolt give you more area per turn. = more grip strength
Also less chance of a stress riser because the threads are not cut as deep....Which will lead us onto another subject not here.
So MR. Aircraft Tech... Thats boeing 101.. Why did you not know this?
Go back to mopping around the aircraft.
Or can you use your enginerring talents on telling us this coat bar might improve torsion loads on the subie uni body??[/QUOTE]
.....deeeeeeewwwwwwwd.......ya still not gettin it 'er ya :lol:
Also less chance of a stress riser because the threads are not cut as deep....Which will lead us onto another subject not here.
So MR. Aircraft Tech... Thats boeing 101.. Why did you not know this?
Go back to mopping around the aircraft.
Or can you use your enginerring talents on telling us this coat bar might improve torsion loads on the subie uni body??[/QUOTE]
.....deeeeeeewwwwwwwd.......ya still not gettin it 'er ya :lol:
| BLK REX | 06-12-2006 07:03 PM |
He never said it'd help with the torsional loads.
I say everyone just fill their cars with lead...that would be stiff as hell.
I say everyone just fill their cars with lead...that would be stiff as hell.
| Calamity Jesus | 06-13-2006 08:51 AM |
[QUOTE=Uncle Scotty].....deeeeeeewwwwwwwd.......ya still not gettin it 'er ya :lol:[/QUOTE]
Apparently we aren't, but only because you refuse to speak basic english.
Are you saying that the ricer floor brace with the adjustable center that triangulates nothing will stiffen the chassis?
Are you trying to say that the bars underneath the seats are good? (If so, I don't think anybody has dissagreed with you about that.)
Are you saying that monocoque aircraft that have only very recently received unstandardized crash testing are vastly similar to unibody automobile construction?
Just wtf are you trying to say?
Apparently we aren't, but only because you refuse to speak basic english.
Are you saying that the ricer floor brace with the adjustable center that triangulates nothing will stiffen the chassis?
Are you trying to say that the bars underneath the seats are good? (If so, I don't think anybody has dissagreed with you about that.)
Are you saying that monocoque aircraft that have only very recently received unstandardized crash testing are vastly similar to unibody automobile construction?
Just wtf are you trying to say?
| dibblejr | 06-13-2006 09:37 AM |
+1
He's tryin to say the same thing he always says " mumble jumbo". these bars do nothing towards chasis stiffening. If you are a ricer though they will stiffen your crank.
The underseat bar is there for protection, but as far as stiffening the chasis I dont think so.
The bars underneath the seats are good for their intended use and should not be removed.
[QUOTE=Beaverboy]Apparently we aren't, but only because you refuse to speak basic english.
Are you saying that the ricer floor brace with the adjustable center that triangulates nothing will stiffen the chassis?
Are you trying to say that the bars underneath the seats are good? (If so, I don't think anybody has dissagreed with you about that.)
Are you saying that monocoque aircraft that have only very recently received unstandardized crash testing are vastly similar to unibody automobile construction?
Just wtf are you trying to say?[/QUOTE]
He's tryin to say the same thing he always says " mumble jumbo". these bars do nothing towards chasis stiffening. If you are a ricer though they will stiffen your crank.
The underseat bar is there for protection, but as far as stiffening the chasis I dont think so.
The bars underneath the seats are good for their intended use and should not be removed.
[QUOTE=Beaverboy]Apparently we aren't, but only because you refuse to speak basic english.
Are you saying that the ricer floor brace with the adjustable center that triangulates nothing will stiffen the chassis?
Are you trying to say that the bars underneath the seats are good? (If so, I don't think anybody has dissagreed with you about that.)
Are you saying that monocoque aircraft that have only very recently received unstandardized crash testing are vastly similar to unibody automobile construction?
Just wtf are you trying to say?[/QUOTE]
| Av3ng3d WRX | 06-13-2006 02:14 PM |
thank you Turn in Concepts....thats what i was trying to say....a floor bar alone will add rigidity but to be really effective either go with a full cage or if u dont want to be surrounded by bars, work on the underbody ie subframe connectors and on the interior do what miracle-x does and make triangulated trunk, strut tower and c-pillar bars.....that will tighten the chassis right up....also throw in some new polyurethane bushings that will make a huge diffrence on how u feel the lateral g's while cornering....
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