| Szm426 | 05-11-2003 01:01 PM |
lamborghini doors for wrx!!
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Anyone see a wrx with all 4 doors that way. I think it would look amazing, not ricey like some people may think. Anyone get a quote from a bodyshop or seen a kit online or something? Did anyone do this? thanks
| NeoGeo | 05-11-2003 02:13 PM |
Try this bodyshop [URL=http://www.zojirushi.com/ricecookers.html]here[/URL] :eek:
| Brad Pittiful | 05-11-2003 02:15 PM |
they have kits on ebay...mainly ive seen trunk kits and i think its instructions on how to do it...no parts and stuff...do a search there...i kinda remember seeing doors kits...but it may have been for another car
| RuCKuS | 05-11-2003 02:31 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NeoGeo [/i]
[B]Try this bodyshop [URL=http://www.zojirushi.com/ricecookers.html]here[/URL] :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
this looks like a good model...a lot of features too!...didn't see any cars with lambo style doors though :confused:
[IMG]http://www.zojirushi.com/products/nrc.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Try this bodyshop [URL=http://www.zojirushi.com/ricecookers.html]here[/URL] :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
this looks like a good model...a lot of features too!...didn't see any cars with lambo style doors though :confused:
[IMG]http://www.zojirushi.com/products/nrc.jpg[/IMG]
| Brad Pittiful | 05-11-2003 02:40 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RuCKuS [/i]
[B]
this looks like a good model...a lot of features too!...didn't see any cars with lambo style doors though :confused:
[IMG]http://www.zojirushi.com/products/nrc.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
[B]
this looks like a good model...a lot of features too!...didn't see any cars with lambo style doors though :confused:
[IMG]http://www.zojirushi.com/products/nrc.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
| VITEKi | 05-11-2003 02:52 PM |
i think the only way to do some crazy door conversion it would be to do suicide doors on the car if you did lambo door youwould not be able to get in the car the door is just to short to do that
| Squad 27 | 05-11-2003 05:02 PM |
not again
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oh no.......not this again......this was discussed here....hmm about a year ago.....there were actually pics somewhere....if i find em' i'll post em'.......do a search
| Oo DaRk StAr oO | 05-11-2003 06:01 PM |
[IMG]http://www.unclebens.com/images/products/tnl_rb_teriyakichicken.jpg[/IMG]
| extraducksauce | 05-11-2003 07:57 PM |
[IMG]http://www.nature.com/nsu/001214/images/rice.jpg[/IMG]
| SoLo OnE | 05-11-2003 08:21 PM |
Don't forget the suicide trunk!!
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
| RuCKuS | 05-11-2003 08:35 PM |
[IMG]http://www.nature.com/nsu/001214/images/rice.jpg[/IMG] [SIZE=+4]>[/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.unclebens.com/images/products/tnl_rb_teriyakichicken.jpg[/IMG]
| Szm426 | 05-11-2003 09:53 PM |
why do you guys think its ricey?
| Brad Pittiful | 05-11-2003 10:09 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Szm426 [/i]
[B]why do you guys think its ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
is it going to be a show car...i think the function wont be good for day to day use
[B]why do you guys think its ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
is it going to be a show car...i think the function wont be good for day to day use
| Szm426 | 05-11-2003 11:05 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Brad Pittiful [/i]
[B]
is it going to be a show car...i think the function wont be good for day to day use [/B][/QUOTE]
so just cause its a show car, it is ricey?
[B]
is it going to be a show car...i think the function wont be good for day to day use [/B][/QUOTE]
so just cause its a show car, it is ricey?
| dRu888 | 05-11-2003 11:14 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Szm426 [/i]
[B]why do you guys think its ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
because that would cost a ton of money and is completely 100% all show.
[B]why do you guys think its ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
because that would cost a ton of money and is completely 100% all show.
| dRu888 | 05-11-2003 11:18 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Szm426 [/i]
[B]
so just cause its a show car, it is ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah you basically said it.
all show=rice
now if you stuck a lamborghini engine in your wrx then that could justify the doors...
[B]
so just cause its a show car, it is ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah you basically said it.
all show=rice
now if you stuck a lamborghini engine in your wrx then that could justify the doors...
| Brad Pittiful | 05-11-2003 11:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Szm426 [/i]
[B]
so just cause its a show car, it is ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
i never said anything about it being ricey...i said if it was going to be a show car it would be better for that...if you were going to use it as a daily driver it may not be as functional day to day
[B]
so just cause its a show car, it is ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
i never said anything about it being ricey...i said if it was going to be a show car it would be better for that...if you were going to use it as a daily driver it may not be as functional day to day
| silverF4turbo | 05-11-2003 11:39 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO [/i]
[B][IMG]http://www.unclebens.com/images/products/tnl_rb_teriyakichicken.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
That stuff is some good isht :D
[B][IMG]http://www.unclebens.com/images/products/tnl_rb_teriyakichicken.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
That stuff is some good isht :D
| SoLo OnE | 05-11-2003 11:40 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Szm426 [/i]
[B]why do you guys think its ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
Its completely tasteless and a WRX isn't a lambo!!!!!
:rolleyes:
[B]why do you guys think its ricey? [/B][/QUOTE]
Its completely tasteless and a WRX isn't a lambo!!!!!
:rolleyes:
| CirrusWRX | 05-11-2003 11:53 PM |
I just think it's funny somebody wants lambo doors on a 4 door sedan :lol:
Now an older 2 door body style you could at least THINK about doing such a thing, but how retarded would it look having a 4 door sedan with flip up doors!?!?
:lol:
Now an older 2 door body style you could at least THINK about doing such a thing, but how retarded would it look having a 4 door sedan with flip up doors!?!?
:lol:
| Kopid | 05-12-2003 12:30 AM |
what does ricey mean?
isn't that racist word?
if so why are you into import cars??
isn't that racist word?
if so why are you into import cars??
| Lightning Jack | 05-12-2003 01:23 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kopid [/i]
[B]what does ricey mean?
isn't that racist word?
if so why are you into import cars?? [/B][/QUOTE]
rednecks hehe i think they should go buy trucks
[B]what does ricey mean?
isn't that racist word?
if so why are you into import cars?? [/B][/QUOTE]
rednecks hehe i think they should go buy trucks
| codemunky | 05-12-2003 04:41 AM |
If you're gonna do lambo doors...you should go all out. Let the hood pop out and spin. Also, let the trunk pop out and spin. That would be a cool show. Don't forget the underbody neon lights.
| omahasubaru | 05-12-2003 09:07 AM |
Ok everyone is making fun & such but I have yet to see anyone point out the obvious... Subaru WRX doors do not have a frame around the window so this is pretty much impossible unless you wanted to spend a ton of $$$$ & totally change the door structure.
Who care's if someone wants to do it, it is their car & they can do as they please... The actually can/can't do it is the real question. I don't see it working out.
Who care's if someone wants to do it, it is their car & they can do as they please... The actually can/can't do it is the real question. I don't see it working out.
| Kopid | 05-12-2003 03:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by omahasubaru [/i]
[B]Ok everyone is making fun & such but I have yet to see anyone point out the obvious... Subaru WRX doors do not have a frame around the window so this is pretty much impossible unless you wanted to spend a ton of $$$$ & totally change the door structure.
Who care's if someone wants to do it, it is their car & they can do as they please... The actually can/can't do it is the real question. I don't see it working out. [/B][/QUOTE]
W3RD :disco:
What's with "ricey" word?
get a mustang then
[B]Ok everyone is making fun & such but I have yet to see anyone point out the obvious... Subaru WRX doors do not have a frame around the window so this is pretty much impossible unless you wanted to spend a ton of $$$$ & totally change the door structure.
Who care's if someone wants to do it, it is their car & they can do as they please... The actually can/can't do it is the real question. I don't see it working out. [/B][/QUOTE]
W3RD :disco:
What's with "ricey" word?
get a mustang then
| NeoGeo | 05-12-2003 03:15 PM |
Wait...you didn't want a rice cooker? I thought that had flip up top! :lol: (And if you don't like the word rice, substitute it with corn ;) )
Okay on a serious side....Like omahasubaru said, it's nearly impossible to do that to a WRX, it's all show, no go, and it's just a lot of money wasted on a lambo-look-alike that won't really look good in the end.
Think about it: a lot of crazy show cars are four door honda civic/accords, and I haven't seen one with four lambo doors. Can't trick it out on a honda=impossible.
Okay on a serious side....Like omahasubaru said, it's nearly impossible to do that to a WRX, it's all show, no go, and it's just a lot of money wasted on a lambo-look-alike that won't really look good in the end.
Think about it: a lot of crazy show cars are four door honda civic/accords, and I haven't seen one with four lambo doors. Can't trick it out on a honda=impossible.
| 128d | 05-12-2003 05:29 PM |
I don think its that ricey, but all 4 doors is a bit much. try sucideing the rears. That might look better.
| NavySealSTI | 05-12-2003 07:06 PM |
If only i could find my pics. I took pics of a subie with only the front 2 lambo style at a car show in rhode island over the summer. The doors looked ok, but it was all riced out with altezzas and a lime green paint job w/ decals all over the place. It should be on my other computer
| Szm426 | 05-12-2003 07:51 PM |
i didnt think this would get such a big reaction. I think ricey for wrx is altezzas, huge with with neons. And then add some half-assed rally decals that look like crap. I think it would have looked good, im not saying i would do it, i was just wondering if anyone did it before. I think suicide doors would look ricey on a wrx. But hey i dont think you should flame me, because there are people on there that actually rice out thier wrx. Like I know this on guy that got a wrx,put on altezzas on his blue rex.It doesnt even match and he said "its a street car, its ok to put on altezzas", a pure rice cooker, but anyway, i thought it would have looked good to see something like that. Im still down with nasioc.:disco:
| NimrodBoz | 05-12-2003 10:51 PM |
i dont use ricey as a racist term at all and dont think most peopl here do either. like everyone has said, its the all show no go deal.
por ejemplo:
[IMG]http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/16219/p/315313_6406999447686384025_vl.jpg[/IMG]
por ejemplo:
[IMG]http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/16219/p/315313_6406999447686384025_vl.jpg[/IMG]
| M E R C U R Y | 05-12-2003 11:31 PM |
for those serious
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just a link
[url]www.decah.net[/url]
in the gallery pic section 10-19
the bottom right pic is an SVX
[url]www.decah.net[/url]
in the gallery pic section 10-19
the bottom right pic is an SVX
| 128d | 05-13-2003 12:48 AM |
NimrodBoz where in the hell did you find that? :eek:
| fast_1_m | 05-13-2003 10:02 AM |
I am doin the doors on mine
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I am talking to a body guy and and we are doing the lambo doors on my 02 wrx we are doing the front and rear doors, the trunk conversion, shaving all door handles and the antenna along with whole paint job. we havent even talked about the price yet but when i find out I will post it on here.
Jay
Jay
| fast_1_m | 05-13-2003 10:05 AM |
lambo doors
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I am talking to a body guy and and we are doing the lambo doors on my 02 wrx we are doing the front and rear doors, the trunk conversion, shaving all door handles and the antenna along with whole paint job. we havent even talked about the price yet but when i find out I will post it on here.
Jay
Jay
| Brad Pittiful | 05-13-2003 10:12 AM |
post pics when this masterpiece is finished and dont forget to put it in a car show
| Ti-REX | 05-13-2003 11:21 AM |
I guess it's your car, your taste and your money...
Everyone has to be different !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{DC0FDD6A-8CCA-44BD-929E-91885ABB988E}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
Everyone has to be different !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{DC0FDD6A-8CCA-44BD-929E-91885ABB988E}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
| sonicblue | 05-13-2003 11:22 AM |
How do you open the doors with no handles?!!? :confused:
| ATX25RS | 05-13-2003 11:45 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sonicblue [/i]
[B]How do you open the doors with no handles?!!? :confused: [/B][/QUOTE]
you stare at them really hard..
[B]How do you open the doors with no handles?!!? :confused: [/B][/QUOTE]
you stare at them really hard..
| eastcoastbumps | 05-13-2003 11:49 AM |
Telekinesis.
I bet giant magnets attached to you hands would work too.
Pete
I bet giant magnets attached to you hands would work too.
Pete
| DanzBorin | 05-13-2003 12:08 PM |
uuusssse the force, luke...
| en3d | 05-13-2003 02:53 PM |
damn that m3 is transforming into a plane. cool.
are the gauges on the prelude on the hood? nice. I think after the lambo doors, the hood scoop should be turned around and gauges should be in there.
are the gauges on the prelude on the hood? nice. I think after the lambo doors, the hood scoop should be turned around and gauges should be in there.
| T33 | 05-13-2003 04:36 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ti-REX [/i]
[B]I guess it's your car, your taste and your money...
Everyone has to be different !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{DC0FDD6A-8CCA-44BD-929E-91885ABB988E}/picture.JPG[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
TRANSFORMERS - MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE (insert jingle here) ;) !!!!!!
Wow, that should be illegal.
[B]I guess it's your car, your taste and your money...
Everyone has to be different !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{DC0FDD6A-8CCA-44BD-929E-91885ABB988E}/picture.JPG[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
TRANSFORMERS - MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE (insert jingle here) ;) !!!!!!
Wow, that should be illegal.
| Brady | 05-13-2003 08:53 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ti-REX [/i]
[B]I guess it's your car, your taste and your money...
Everyone has to be different !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{DC0FDD6A-8CCA-44BD-929E-91885ABB988E}/picture.JPG[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
worst photochop ever! so many missing details it makes the head spin.
ok, it's not that bad, but it's not good
and lambo doors on a wrx is just plain silly. and it would look stupid. mostly for the reason that it so obviously doesn't belong. it's like putting a limousine boomerang antenna on the back. that's stupid. i agree that anything that has zero functionality is dumb. minor cosmetics aren't bad, but when the goal is to just "have something no one else does," well, it just says you should have saved your pennies and bought a Saleen S7.
[B]I guess it's your car, your taste and your money...
Everyone has to be different !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{DC0FDD6A-8CCA-44BD-929E-91885ABB988E}/picture.JPG[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]
worst photochop ever! so many missing details it makes the head spin.
ok, it's not that bad, but it's not good
and lambo doors on a wrx is just plain silly. and it would look stupid. mostly for the reason that it so obviously doesn't belong. it's like putting a limousine boomerang antenna on the back. that's stupid. i agree that anything that has zero functionality is dumb. minor cosmetics aren't bad, but when the goal is to just "have something no one else does," well, it just says you should have saved your pennies and bought a Saleen S7.
| 128d | 05-13-2003 09:20 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bjlee [/i]
[B]
worst photochop ever! so many missing details it makes the head spin.
[/B][/QUOTE]
like........
[B]
worst photochop ever! so many missing details it makes the head spin.
[/B][/QUOTE]
like........
| NavySealSTI | 05-13-2003 11:03 PM |
[QUOTE]How do you open the doors with no handles?!!? [/QUOTE]
Pop-locks. Like keyless entry, but it pops the door out a lil.
Pop-locks. Like keyless entry, but it pops the door out a lil.
| NimrodBoz | 05-13-2003 11:42 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by 128d [/i]
[B]NimrodBoz where in the hell did you find that? :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
it was from a post a while ago involving another rice conversation.
to be honest, i cant even concieve why youd do lambo rear doors. Why?! fast_1, are you being serious about all those body mods?!
[QUOTE]are the gauges on the prelude on the hood?[/QUOTE]
yep, in true muscle car fashion!
[B]NimrodBoz where in the hell did you find that? :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
it was from a post a while ago involving another rice conversation.
to be honest, i cant even concieve why youd do lambo rear doors. Why?! fast_1, are you being serious about all those body mods?!
[QUOTE]are the gauges on the prelude on the hood?[/QUOTE]
yep, in true muscle car fashion!
| Ti-REX | 05-14-2003 10:49 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bjlee [/i]
[B]
worst photochop ever! so many missing details it makes the head spin.
ok, it's not that bad, but it's not good
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry bjlee, this ain't no Photoshop ! This car is the HAMANN LAS VEGAS WINGS. The coupe is powered by a 485 hp / 357 kW V8 four-valve engine. This 315 km/h car, which costs 280,000 Euro, celebrated its World Premiere at the ESSEN-MOTOR-SHOW 2002.
The HAMANN LAS VEGAS WINGS is constructed on the base of a reinforced bodyshell of the current BMW M3. The V8 engine originally comes from the M5 but was extensively modified at the HAMANN engine department.
Hope this helps !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{8F628895-03E0-42AF-B2EE-2488AEC0C711}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{09018AB9-992A-47DC-8D87-28965438DE65}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{5351FA4D-5787-4CEA-B779-B034D4864148}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{685CCD95-BC58-4722-AB11-640BC08E4EC3}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[B]
worst photochop ever! so many missing details it makes the head spin.
ok, it's not that bad, but it's not good
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry bjlee, this ain't no Photoshop ! This car is the HAMANN LAS VEGAS WINGS. The coupe is powered by a 485 hp / 357 kW V8 four-valve engine. This 315 km/h car, which costs 280,000 Euro, celebrated its World Premiere at the ESSEN-MOTOR-SHOW 2002.
The HAMANN LAS VEGAS WINGS is constructed on the base of a reinforced bodyshell of the current BMW M3. The V8 engine originally comes from the M5 but was extensively modified at the HAMANN engine department.
Hope this helps !
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{8F628895-03E0-42AF-B2EE-2488AEC0C711}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{09018AB9-992A-47DC-8D87-28965438DE65}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{5351FA4D-5787-4CEA-B779-B034D4864148}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/{685CCD95-BC58-4722-AB11-640BC08E4EC3}/picture.JPG[/IMG]
| CirrusWRX | 05-15-2003 12:04 AM |
HAHAHA - "worst photochop evar"
owned!
:lol:
owned!
:lol:
| 128d | 05-15-2003 02:14 AM |
It has been said already that it is not photoshoped so why does everyone think it is?
| MELBA | 05-15-2003 12:01 PM |
I would change the hood on that HAMANN BMW. But otherwise it looks very good. The doors go with the flow of the car.
On a sidenote putting Lambo doors on a 4 door = ghey. A coupe you might have been able to sell me on but 4 doors will look soooooooooo freaking ass-a-nine.
On a sidenote putting Lambo doors on a 4 door = ghey. A coupe you might have been able to sell me on but 4 doors will look soooooooooo freaking ass-a-nine.
| CirrusWRX | 05-16-2003 12:33 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by 128d [/i]
[B]It has been said already that it is not photoshoped so why does everyone think it is? [/B][/QUOTE]
that's why I quoted "worst photoshop evar" -- I don't know much about BMW's but I couldn't see anything "wrong" with it, and the people who apparently did were shut down with the other half dozen pics.
[B]It has been said already that it is not photoshoped so why does everyone think it is? [/B][/QUOTE]
that's why I quoted "worst photoshop evar" -- I don't know much about BMW's but I couldn't see anything "wrong" with it, and the people who apparently did were shut down with the other half dozen pics.
| joubtt | 05-16-2003 01:51 AM |
Re: NimrodBoz post,
Is that a front mount inner rice strainer?
Is that a front mount inner rice strainer?
| Brady | 05-16-2003 02:05 AM |
it IS photochopped. not the doors, but everything around the car. the car isn't really moving in the pic. the wheels have been photoshopped for a spinning blur effect, and the background has been blurred to make it look like the car is moving fast.
that's what i was referring too. there are missing details in the movement and "focus" that indicate it ain't really moving.
:rolleyes:
n00bz
that's what i was referring too. there are missing details in the movement and "focus" that indicate it ain't really moving.
:rolleyes:
n00bz
| 128d | 05-16-2003 10:39 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bjlee [/i]
[B]it IS photochopped. not the doors, but everything around the car. the car isn't really moving in the pic. the wheels have been photoshopped for a spinning blur effect, and the background has been blurred to make it look like the car is moving fast.
that's what i was referring too. there are missing details in the movement and "focus" that indicate it ain't really moving.
:rolleyes:
n00bz [/B][/QUOTE]
O I noticed that but I thought you were refering to the car itself and its doors. Sorry. I missunderstood what you were saying.
[B]it IS photochopped. not the doors, but everything around the car. the car isn't really moving in the pic. the wheels have been photoshopped for a spinning blur effect, and the background has been blurred to make it look like the car is moving fast.
that's what i was referring too. there are missing details in the movement and "focus" that indicate it ain't really moving.
:rolleyes:
n00bz [/B][/QUOTE]
O I noticed that but I thought you were refering to the car itself and its doors. Sorry. I missunderstood what you were saying.
| Cajual | 05-18-2003 12:25 PM |
[URL=http://www.lambodoors.com/]http://www.lambodoors.com/[/URL]
the WRX is listed on their application list. :p
the WRX is listed on their application list. :p
| lenyx | 05-18-2003 04:49 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cajual [/i]
[B][URL=http://www.lambodoors.com/]http://www.lambodoors.com/[/URL]
the WRX is listed on their application list. :p [/B][/QUOTE]
Is it just me or is that a WRX wagon at the bottom of the page? Too bad the pic is too small to tell if it is and if it's real.
While I won't readily admit to liking this mod..i'd still like to see decent pics of someone's poor subie with it. :devil:
[B][URL=http://www.lambodoors.com/]http://www.lambodoors.com/[/URL]
the WRX is listed on their application list. :p [/B][/QUOTE]
Is it just me or is that a WRX wagon at the bottom of the page? Too bad the pic is too small to tell if it is and if it's real.
While I won't readily admit to liking this mod..i'd still like to see decent pics of someone's poor subie with it. :devil:
| Cajual | 05-18-2003 05:09 PM |
If you're referring to that blue car... that's a civic hatchback.
| lenyx | 05-18-2003 05:58 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cajual [/i]
[B]If you're referring to that blue car... that's a civic hatchback. [/B][/QUOTE]
Heh, I thought the rear looked weird. Too small for my eyes, though i suppose putting in my contacts would have helped :D
[B]If you're referring to that blue car... that's a civic hatchback. [/B][/QUOTE]
Heh, I thought the rear looked weird. Too small for my eyes, though i suppose putting in my contacts would have helped :D
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