| Mopho | 09-27-2006 01:09 PM |
Loeb broke his arm and will miss Turkey!
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Maybe there is a god...
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| Weasel 555 | 09-27-2006 01:32 PM |
or at least a god with a good sense of humor :lol:
from rally-live.com
World Champion Sebastien Loeb was hospitalised and operated this morning in Lausanne, Switzerland after a quad bike accident.
The Frenchman suffered from four fractures to his humerus (the bone between the shoulder and elbow) and will need a recuperation period.
His participation to Rally Turkey � the thirteenth round of the World Championship � in mid-October could be compromised but nothing has been confirmed by Kronos Racing at this time.
from rally-live.com
World Champion Sebastien Loeb was hospitalised and operated this morning in Lausanne, Switzerland after a quad bike accident.
The Frenchman suffered from four fractures to his humerus (the bone between the shoulder and elbow) and will need a recuperation period.
His participation to Rally Turkey � the thirteenth round of the World Championship � in mid-October could be compromised but nothing has been confirmed by Kronos Racing at this time.
| Bort | 09-27-2006 01:38 PM |
Actually that kinda sucks. I mean I'd rather see Marcus or someone beat him a few more times this season. But since that probably wouldn't have happened I'll take what I can get :)
| freshclive | 09-27-2006 01:44 PM |
i agree the rallies with marcus and loeb have been great...loeb wins rallies cuz hes fast and he's service team has always been on the ball (even with the change this year)...id love to see solberg do better but iam just happy to see him finish some rallies for once
| vica153 | 09-27-2006 01:47 PM |
4 breaks in the upper arm. OUCH. How does that happen?
| shemoves | 09-27-2006 01:49 PM |
Even if he got last place in the rest of the races, Gronholm would still have win every successive race to get first. I guess, technically, if Loeb misses the Turkish rally, Loeb could get a second and tie for 1st (assuming my math is correct).
Edit: LOL...it's kinda like having the 'uber-car' in Gran Turismo...yah, I think I've got enough points to sit the next couple out and still win in the end :D
Edit: LOL...it's kinda like having the 'uber-car' in Gran Turismo...yah, I think I've got enough points to sit the next couple out and still win in the end :D
| freshclive | 09-27-2006 02:16 PM |
i think its all about manufacturers points now though...between marcus and mikko ford has a real good chance of taking that from kronos....that is if mikko can keep up with sordo...
| Obnoxio | 09-27-2006 02:19 PM |
With a fracture as bad as that, he will be out for the season. Think external fixator or intermedullary rod.
Not fun, I have had both at the same time.
Not fun, I have had both at the same time.
| Mopho | 09-27-2006 02:27 PM |
Actually, I made the original post in jest. But at least this adds some drama to the season.
Hopefully some of the other drivers will provide some competition for Gronholm in Turkey to keep it interesting
Hopefully some of the other drivers will provide some competition for Gronholm in Turkey to keep it interesting
| StuBeck | 09-27-2006 02:53 PM |
That would suck if he doesn't win the championship this year because of that. I don't think his dominance has been good for the sport, but its like Schumachers domiance, its something amazing to see and we can say later that we watched it.
| roofis | 09-27-2006 03:18 PM |
loeb on top of everything isn't entirely due to him and only him. the xsara is an amazing car and kronos have definitely gotten all they can out of it. stuff like this happens though, schumacher was mentioned but what about lance armstrong? when he annoucned he won't be riding for this year, the media went absolutely crazy with the "who will be the next Tour de France winner" and that kinda hype. for those who really follow a race and want to see past who just got podium places, i don't think success like this will influence them too much. there are also other drivers and teams to pay attention to.
i think sordo unfortunately won't be contesting with mikko this time around. after his bad time in cyprus, and finland & japan before that, not to mention the pressure of just being made the kronos citroen #2 driver and having only delivered for one event since then (Germany he placed 2nd but he has more experience and is more comfortable on tarmac than gravel) he's undoubtedly still not in full confidence and mikko has been driving very strong lately. i'd look for hirvonen to take a 2nd place position with loeb out. fastest stage times will be by gronholm, solberg and possibly hirvonen.
i think sordo unfortunately won't be contesting with mikko this time around. after his bad time in cyprus, and finland & japan before that, not to mention the pressure of just being made the kronos citroen #2 driver and having only delivered for one event since then (Germany he placed 2nd but he has more experience and is more comfortable on tarmac than gravel) he's undoubtedly still not in full confidence and mikko has been driving very strong lately. i'd look for hirvonen to take a 2nd place position with loeb out. fastest stage times will be by gronholm, solberg and possibly hirvonen.
| dyslexicwrx | 09-27-2006 03:20 PM |
That means Peter better win!:devil:
| RB5 Clone | 09-27-2006 03:21 PM |
now accepting bets as to who lands Loeb's seat at Kronos for balance of 06 season
Pons (most likely, since he's driven for Kronos already this season)
McRae?
Gardemeister?
Galli?
Sainz back from retirement yet again??!!
Dave G
Pons (most likely, since he's driven for Kronos already this season)
McRae?
Gardemeister?
Galli?
Sainz back from retirement yet again??!!
Dave G
| StuBeck | 09-27-2006 03:36 PM |
If you look at the other people in the Xsara, they haven't really done much. Loeb is an amazing driver and I think he's a big part of the Xsara's success. Hopefully the replacement will suck and the new Impreza will actually work.
| Chiketkd | 09-27-2006 03:38 PM |
[QUOTE=dyslexicwrx;15405804]That means Peter better win!:devil:[/QUOTE]
+1 Git-r-done Solberg! :devil:
+1 Git-r-done Solberg! :devil:
| bjorn240 | 09-27-2006 04:04 PM |
I think Pons/Del Barrio will get the seat, but in the battle for manufacturer points with Ford, I think they'd be better off giving the second car to Gardemeister/Honkanen.
- Christian
- Christian
| WRXedUSA | 09-27-2006 04:10 PM |
IBloebstillwinsit
| culturedetox | 09-27-2006 04:16 PM |
ouch, thats going to leave a mark. I hope he recovers quickly. but I'd imagine he'd be out for the remainder of the season.
I'd thought at this level of compition, high risk leisure time be a No-No?
I'd thought at this level of compition, high risk leisure time be a No-No?
| runnah | 09-27-2006 04:41 PM |
[QUOTE=crash.net]World champion-elect Sebastien Loeb will miss the Rally of Turkey after breaking his arm while on a training ride in the run-up to the event.
The Frenchman, who has been in largely untouchable this season, is only six points away from a third consecutive world title, but will almost certainly concede ground to main pursuer Marcus Gronholm.
"Loeb was riding a mountain bike when he fell and got injured," a Kronos team spokesman confirmed, revealing that the Frenchman will miss the 13th round of 16 this season.
Given the proximity of the following event, in Australia, it is conceivable that Loeb may be absent for two rounds, before returning in six week's time in New Zealand. The identity of his replacement has yet to be confirmed, with a pairing of Dani Sordo and Xavier Pons the most likely, unless Kronos and Citroen decide to blood a newcomer, such as Britain's Kris Meeke.
More to follow...[/QUOTE]
Complete story.
The Frenchman, who has been in largely untouchable this season, is only six points away from a third consecutive world title, but will almost certainly concede ground to main pursuer Marcus Gronholm.
"Loeb was riding a mountain bike when he fell and got injured," a Kronos team spokesman confirmed, revealing that the Frenchman will miss the 13th round of 16 this season.
Given the proximity of the following event, in Australia, it is conceivable that Loeb may be absent for two rounds, before returning in six week's time in New Zealand. The identity of his replacement has yet to be confirmed, with a pairing of Dani Sordo and Xavier Pons the most likely, unless Kronos and Citroen decide to blood a newcomer, such as Britain's Kris Meeke.
More to follow...[/QUOTE]
Complete story.
| freshclive | 09-27-2006 04:45 PM |
[QUOTE=roofis;15405771]i think sordo unfortunately won't be contesting with mikko this time around. after his bad time in cyprus[/QUOTE]
crap i knew i shouldnt have posted...ive been so good about staying in the dark about the rally outcomes until they get posted on enormousleysideways...like to keep surprises...but your right sordo has done real well but does have BIG shoes to fill and especially on gravel events which now that i review the calendar make up most the rest of the season (if not all...minus GB isnt that mostly tarmac...dont recall)...
crap i knew i shouldnt have posted...ive been so good about staying in the dark about the rally outcomes until they get posted on enormousleysideways...like to keep surprises...but your right sordo has done real well but does have BIG shoes to fill and especially on gravel events which now that i review the calendar make up most the rest of the season (if not all...minus GB isnt that mostly tarmac...dont recall)...
| tt_ttf | 09-27-2006 05:19 PM |
[quote]I'd thought at this level of compition, high risk leisure time be a No-No?[/quote]
His team is going to be pissed with him given he was mountain biking when this happened. I'll bet there was a clause or two about risk in his contract. This close to securing a championship especially makes that choice a stupid one.
As for that 'six" weeks - if the break is that bad I suspect VERY much that is going to be lot longer before he is fully ok and he will be able to little or nothing with that arm in the meantime. That means a loss of a lot of strength in the arm and you have to wait and see if there is any loss of mobility as result of either the accident or the surgery needed to repair it.
As good as he is, it will take time to get the strength back into that arm and I doubt he would be able to jump back in a rally car and not be off his pace.
There is a good chance he just lost the championship.......
His team is going to be pissed with him given he was mountain biking when this happened. I'll bet there was a clause or two about risk in his contract. This close to securing a championship especially makes that choice a stupid one.
As for that 'six" weeks - if the break is that bad I suspect VERY much that is going to be lot longer before he is fully ok and he will be able to little or nothing with that arm in the meantime. That means a loss of a lot of strength in the arm and you have to wait and see if there is any loss of mobility as result of either the accident or the surgery needed to repair it.
As good as he is, it will take time to get the strength back into that arm and I doubt he would be able to jump back in a rally car and not be off his pace.
There is a good chance he just lost the championship.......
| psg | 09-27-2006 05:32 PM |
Loeb will still win it. They'll ship out a new robo-arm from the Citroen factory via overnight freight, and he'll be as good as new...
| Yotsuya | 09-27-2006 05:35 PM |
[QUOTE=freshclive;15404656]i think its all about manufacturers points now though...between marcus and mikko ford has a real good chance of taking that from kronos....that is if mikko can keep up with sordo...[/QUOTE]
Sordo's a real threat on tarmac, but he's still getting the hang of gravel.
Sordo's a real threat on tarmac, but he's still getting the hang of gravel.
| bjorn240 | 09-27-2006 05:37 PM |
According to a guy I know who is not a doctor, is only moderately acquainted with Sebastien Loeb, and who notes that he's been wrong before and that you're reading this, second-hand, on the internet, thinks that:
"Absolute minimum 4 weeks, best case 5-6 weeks, worst case 8-10 weeks."
Nevertheless, I trust this guy's judgement.
"Absolute minimum 4 weeks, best case 5-6 weeks, worst case 8-10 weeks."
Nevertheless, I trust this guy's judgement.
| Mopho | 09-27-2006 05:41 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240;15407913]According to a guy I know who is not a doctor, is only moderately acquainted with Sebastien Loeb, and who notes that he's been wrong before and that you're reading this, second-hand, on the internet, thinks that:
"Absolute minimum 4 weeks, best case 5-6 weeks, worst case 8-10 weeks."
Nevertheless, I trust this guy's judgement.[/QUOTE]
It may take that long to heal, and he may be a broken man, but that doesn't mean he won't try and drive. You should know that better than anyone :lol:
"Absolute minimum 4 weeks, best case 5-6 weeks, worst case 8-10 weeks."
Nevertheless, I trust this guy's judgement.[/QUOTE]
It may take that long to heal, and he may be a broken man, but that doesn't mean he won't try and drive. You should know that better than anyone :lol:
| skuttledude | 09-27-2006 05:52 PM |
All of this time I thought Loeb was unbreakable;)
I can only imagine Citronen is very pissed about this. While the team is Kronos and labeled a privateer team, I'll bet a million-teen Euros that Citronen is doing some significant backing so not to see their precious Xsara get a bad smell.
If the Ford was having zero mechanical/luck issues this season I might figure that Marcus would have a chance at a title. I think that Loeb will still make a rally this year and take the deserved championship.
I can only imagine Citronen is very pissed about this. While the team is Kronos and labeled a privateer team, I'll bet a million-teen Euros that Citronen is doing some significant backing so not to see their precious Xsara get a bad smell.
If the Ford was having zero mechanical/luck issues this season I might figure that Marcus would have a chance at a title. I think that Loeb will still make a rally this year and take the deserved championship.
| tt_ttf | 09-27-2006 06:08 PM |
[quote=Mopho;15407967]It may take that long to heal, and he may be a broken man, but that doesn't mean he won't try and drive. You should know that better than anyone :lol:[/quote]
And at the same time being stupid and trying too early can cause even more trouble like screwing up the arm permanently or having an bad off because you aren't up to it yet. There is a BIG difference between getting back in the car and being able to score the points he needs.
Would have been smarter to have not done it in the first place.
5 to 6 weeks is the normal healing time for a simple break. This is a multiple fracture which can be tricky to fix depending on exactly what type it is - up to and including surgery and traction and assuming he heals without issues.
8 to 10 weeks HEALING time, let alone the rehab needed afterwards to get back into condition is not unrealistic.
He also did this to his upper arm which makes the chances of complications in other areas high.
The following is a good primer
[url]http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec05/ch062/ch062a.html[/url]
And at the same time being stupid and trying too early can cause even more trouble like screwing up the arm permanently or having an bad off because you aren't up to it yet. There is a BIG difference between getting back in the car and being able to score the points he needs.
Would have been smarter to have not done it in the first place.
5 to 6 weeks is the normal healing time for a simple break. This is a multiple fracture which can be tricky to fix depending on exactly what type it is - up to and including surgery and traction and assuming he heals without issues.
8 to 10 weeks HEALING time, let alone the rehab needed afterwards to get back into condition is not unrealistic.
He also did this to his upper arm which makes the chances of complications in other areas high.
The following is a good primer
[url]http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec05/ch062/ch062a.html[/url]
| Mopho | 09-27-2006 06:16 PM |
[QUOTE=tt_ttf;15408426]And at the same time being stupid and trying too early can cause even more trouble like screwing up the arm permanently or having an bad off because you aren't up to it yet. There is a BIG difference between getting back in the car and being able to score the points he needs.
Would have been smarter to have not done it in the first place.
5 to 6 weeks is the normal healing time for a simple break. This is a multiple fracture which can be tricky to fix depending on exactly what type it is - up to and including surgery and traction and assuming he heals without issues.
8 to 10 weeks HEALING time, let alone the rehab needed afterwards to get back into condition is not unrealistic.
He also did this to his upper arm which makes the chances of complications in other areas high.
The following is a good primer
[url]http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec05/ch062/ch062a.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Of course, but don't underestimate the power of determination.
Would have been smarter to have not done it in the first place.
5 to 6 weeks is the normal healing time for a simple break. This is a multiple fracture which can be tricky to fix depending on exactly what type it is - up to and including surgery and traction and assuming he heals without issues.
8 to 10 weeks HEALING time, let alone the rehab needed afterwards to get back into condition is not unrealistic.
He also did this to his upper arm which makes the chances of complications in other areas high.
The following is a good primer
[url]http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec05/ch062/ch062a.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Of course, but don't underestimate the power of determination.
| tt_ttf | 09-27-2006 06:22 PM |
[quote=Mopho;15408541]Of course, but don't underestimate the power of determination.[/quote]
Yes but that does not equate to being ready to drive.....
Reality is time will tell what happens but he is going to be a VERY SORE boy for a while.
Yes but that does not equate to being ready to drive.....
Reality is time will tell what happens but he is going to be a VERY SORE boy for a while.
| Mopho | 09-27-2006 06:31 PM |
I just watched on TV a guy who busted up his hand racing motorcylces, the following weekend against his doctors orders, he did three races with his cast on and was able to hold onto his championship
Ask Christian about how his driver showed up with a dislocated shoulder with pins holding it together ( I am sure there were plenty of other times he competed with broken bits)
Sometimes these guys don't use their best judgement. Not saying that Loeb will do this, but I would not be surprised
Ask Christian about how his driver showed up with a dislocated shoulder with pins holding it together ( I am sure there were plenty of other times he competed with broken bits)
Sometimes these guys don't use their best judgement. Not saying that Loeb will do this, but I would not be surprised
| digitalpimp | 09-27-2006 07:26 PM |
[QUOTE=psg;15407833]Loeb will still win it. They'll ship out a new robo-arm from the Citroen factory via overnight freight, and he'll be as good as new...[/QUOTE]
^^:D
that gets my vote.
if it wern't for the manufacturer points i'd say they'd put in a new face inplace of loeb. since the drivers is basically secured i'm sure won't get back in the car too quick, for all the reasons already mentioned
^^:D
that gets my vote.
if it wern't for the manufacturer points i'd say they'd put in a new face inplace of loeb. since the drivers is basically secured i'm sure won't get back in the car too quick, for all the reasons already mentioned
| datageek | 09-27-2006 09:47 PM |
This will probably have no effect on the Drivers title at all. If Gronholmfinishes lower than second on any of the four remaining events then the title is decided regardless of whether Loeb drives or not. The Manu title, OTOH... probably just got handed to Ford. We'll have to see who Citroen chooses to fill in with. My bets are on Gardemeister or Duval, in that order.
At first I thought this would make rallies more interesting. But really, I don't see anyone else being in a position to hold down a close fight with Gronholm the way we've seen Loeb doing it over the last couple of events. Barring mechanical problems or driver carelessness, it's unlikely that anyone other than Gronholm will win. As far as I'm concerned the only interest would be if Gronholm does run into some kind of a problem, since that means either someone will get their first rally win, or Solberg will (finally!) manage to win an event. (I think the latter is highly unlikely, though.)
At first I thought this would make rallies more interesting. But really, I don't see anyone else being in a position to hold down a close fight with Gronholm the way we've seen Loeb doing it over the last couple of events. Barring mechanical problems or driver carelessness, it's unlikely that anyone other than Gronholm will win. As far as I'm concerned the only interest would be if Gronholm does run into some kind of a problem, since that means either someone will get their first rally win, or Solberg will (finally!) manage to win an event. (I think the latter is highly unlikely, though.)
| KAX | 09-28-2006 01:18 AM |
Im betting Gronholm is going to take it slower and Mikko will not be far behind, maybe 20-30 seconds compared to the 1:30 hes been behind in the past few races. With Loeb out, Gronholm will see no need to push and just needs to make sure he outdoes his teamate slightly (which he'll have no trouble with). The only thing i see keeping him from the championship is a stone out of place, or some type of engine/electrical problem.
| scoobyRx | 09-28-2006 02:42 AM |
I'd still put my money on Loeb winning the C'ship, though I'd rather see Marcus win it. I thought Ford would win the Manu. even with Loeb driving. Pons and Sordo are too erratic, there's no more tarmac events this year, and Mikko has been surprising fast and reliable.
My first thought was they'd try to get Carlos back, but not sure he would. I don't think Duval would be any better than what they have, so that leaves Toni. I don't think it matters as Ford will win it, but will miss those close battles between those two.
My first thought was they'd try to get Carlos back, but not sure he would. I don't think Duval would be any better than what they have, so that leaves Toni. I don't think it matters as Ford will win it, but will miss those close battles between those two.
| chaddeus | 09-28-2006 05:22 PM |
Its just no brainer that Petter Solberg will NOT win and that Marcus WILL win.
Anyone of you betting on WRC.com?
- Charles
[QUOTE=scoobyRx;15413740]I'd still put my money on Loeb winning the C'ship, though I'd rather see Marcus win it. I thought Ford would win the Manu. even with Loeb driving. Pons and Sordo are too erratic, there's no more tarmac events this year, and Mikko has been surprising fast and reliable.
My first thought was they'd try to get Carlos back, but not sure he would. I don't think Duval would be any better than what they have, so that leaves Toni. I don't think it matters as Ford will win it, but will miss those close battles between those two.[/QUOTE]
Anyone of you betting on WRC.com?
- Charles
[QUOTE=scoobyRx;15413740]I'd still put my money on Loeb winning the C'ship, though I'd rather see Marcus win it. I thought Ford would win the Manu. even with Loeb driving. Pons and Sordo are too erratic, there's no more tarmac events this year, and Mikko has been surprising fast and reliable.
My first thought was they'd try to get Carlos back, but not sure he would. I don't think Duval would be any better than what they have, so that leaves Toni. I don't think it matters as Ford will win it, but will miss those close battles between those two.[/QUOTE]
| mykrrrr | 09-28-2006 06:38 PM |
The WRC is fixed like WWF... :p
| psg | 09-28-2006 07:02 PM |
[QUOTE=chaddeus;15421985]Its just no brainer that Petter Solberg will NOT win and that Marcus WILL win.
Anyone of you betting on WRC.com?
- Charles[/QUOTE]
Petter could win the next four events and perhaps jump up to 3rd in the drivers' championship...yeah, that's not happening. :p
Loeb could run Wales Rally GB with his left pinky finger, and still finish on the podium and lock up the championship. Unless it's worse than we know, I think he can limp in 5 drivers' points at the season closer.
Anyone of you betting on WRC.com?
- Charles[/QUOTE]
Petter could win the next four events and perhaps jump up to 3rd in the drivers' championship...yeah, that's not happening. :p
Loeb could run Wales Rally GB with his left pinky finger, and still finish on the podium and lock up the championship. Unless it's worse than we know, I think he can limp in 5 drivers' points at the season closer.
| ktzdaddy | 09-28-2006 11:18 PM |
i try to be a nice person at all times, but there is something about this guy that i just dont like. i guess the only thing i can say is, couldnt happen to a nicer guy.
| bemani | 09-29-2006 04:05 AM |
[QUOTE=Yotsuya;15407871]Sordo's a real threat on tarmac, but he's still getting the hang of gravel.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he's a threat to the people standing near the curbs on the side of the street when he crashes and sends bricks flying :lol:
Sordo's a broken man, and so is Petter. He doesn't even cry anymore when the car breaks, he just laughs like its a joke. :(
Yeah, he's a threat to the people standing near the curbs on the side of the street when he crashes and sends bricks flying :lol:
Sordo's a broken man, and so is Petter. He doesn't even cry anymore when the car breaks, he just laughs like its a joke. :(
| Hondo88 | 09-29-2006 08:27 AM |
[QUOTE=RB5 Clone;15405826]now accepting bets as to who lands Loeb's seat at Kronos for balance of 06 season
Pons (most likely, since he's driven for Kronos already this season)
McRae?
Gardemeister?
Galli?
Sainz back from retirement yet again??!!
Dave G[/QUOTE]
[B]Bring back Tommy![/B]
Pons (most likely, since he's driven for Kronos already this season)
McRae?
Gardemeister?
Galli?
Sainz back from retirement yet again??!!
Dave G[/QUOTE]
[B]Bring back Tommy![/B]
| Yotsuya | 09-29-2006 10:12 AM |
[QUOTE=bemani;15427946]Sordo's a broken man[/QUOTE]
Only two rallies after his wreck in Finland? I'm not about to jump to that consultion.
Only two rallies after his wreck in Finland? I'm not about to jump to that consultion.
| bjorn240 | 09-29-2006 10:19 AM |
I think Sordo is a very good driver, but it will definitely be interesting to watch him restore his confidence on gravel after the big big off in Finland.
| roofis | 09-29-2006 02:21 PM |
i wouldn't go so far to cancell all bets on sordo. remember how he blew everyone away at germany? that's not something that the string pullers will let die easily. this is a defining time for him though, whether or not he overcomes this could make or break his career. good luck to him.
| HomerJay | 10-01-2006 02:09 PM |
Wow! Loeb is so generous. He's going to let someone else win for a change.
| bjorn240 | 10-01-2006 02:46 PM |
Rumours are spreading that it's Duval. Unbelieveable if true. After everything Toni has shown this year and last!
| CirrusWRX | 10-02-2006 02:02 PM |
FYI- I can't imagine anybody (Kronos, Citroen, sponsors, etc.) is necessarily upset with him as the reports I heard said that he was in the process of cross training. These guys can't just sit in a gym all day long and run on treadmills- they have to get out and do a range of strength and cardio training in order to prepare them for the physically grueling experience of driving a rally car. While I could be wrong that he was barreling down a ski slope on a mountain bike, he could just have easily slid of the side of an easy trail and fell on it the wrong way. Hell, he could slip on a treadmill or drop a dumbell on his foot - isht happens.
Besides, it's not like he went and did a double backflip on a motox bike the night before or anything against the recommandations of his sponsors ;) :D :lol:
Besides, it's not like he went and did a double backflip on a motox bike the night before or anything against the recommandations of his sponsors ;) :D :lol:
| tt_ttf | 10-02-2006 04:22 PM |
[quote=CirrusWRX;15461817]Fhe was in the process of cross training. These guys can't just sit in a gym all day long and run on treadmills- they have to get out and do a range of strength and cardio training in order to prepare them for the physically grueling experience of driving a rally car. [/quote]
Cross training!!?? :confused: :lol:
My spouse is a fitness instructor and I am sure that she would laugh at the idea that playing around on a quad bike is any form of cross training. Yeah a mountain bike would be cardio but some of the reports have this a quad bike (ie read motorised) so cardio is not involved.
That provides little if ANY cardio and/or strength training in a traditional sense. It also has little or no comparison with seat time in a rally car either.
As for comparing it with mountain biking, skiing etc, have you seen the stats on just how many people are hurt riding those quad bikes?
He was out mucking around and it bit him, pure and simple.
Cross training!!?? :confused: :lol:
My spouse is a fitness instructor and I am sure that she would laugh at the idea that playing around on a quad bike is any form of cross training. Yeah a mountain bike would be cardio but some of the reports have this a quad bike (ie read motorised) so cardio is not involved.
That provides little if ANY cardio and/or strength training in a traditional sense. It also has little or no comparison with seat time in a rally car either.
As for comparing it with mountain biking, skiing etc, have you seen the stats on just how many people are hurt riding those quad bikes?
He was out mucking around and it bit him, pure and simple.
| meebs | 10-03-2006 12:27 AM |
At least it wasn't a "tennis injury" heh. ;)
| CirrusWRX | 10-03-2006 12:38 PM |
My bad - All the reports I had heard up until the one posted above said, "Mountain Bike" and NOTHING about a quad bike or "four wheeler" as my mother used to call them.
If it was a regular mountain bike then I still stand by my comment, but if it was a quad, then, yeah, I have to agree - WTF was he doing on one!??
If it was a regular mountain bike then I still stand by my comment, but if it was a quad, then, yeah, I have to agree - WTF was he doing on one!??
| KAX | 10-03-2006 01:23 PM |
yeh, it was a 4-wheeler, not a mountain bike. the original report on WRC.com said that.
| Mopho | 10-03-2006 02:07 PM |
[URL="http://www.sebastienloeb.com/html/actu/communique-sebastienloeb-gb.htm"]From Sebastian's website[/URL]
Hello to everyone,
Like you probably know already, I broke the top of my humerus of my right arm yesterday evening (Tuesday) [b]while riding a mountain bike [/b]. A real tough break.
I was riding on a forest gravel trail and my front wheel got stuck against a rock. I went over the handlebars and landed on my shoulder.
I was operated this morning and saw the doctor this evening. He reassured me about my health condition. The operation went well but I won�t be able to participate in Rally Turkey, that�s for sure! I hope to be fine very soon!
For now I need to rest. I cancelled all my appointments at the Auto Show. I won�t give any interviews for a few days.
I thank you all for your numerous support messages in my guest book! It really touches me and lifts my spirit.
Thanks!
Until next time,
Seb
Hello to everyone,
Like you probably know already, I broke the top of my humerus of my right arm yesterday evening (Tuesday) [b]while riding a mountain bike [/b]. A real tough break.
I was riding on a forest gravel trail and my front wheel got stuck against a rock. I went over the handlebars and landed on my shoulder.
I was operated this morning and saw the doctor this evening. He reassured me about my health condition. The operation went well but I won�t be able to participate in Rally Turkey, that�s for sure! I hope to be fine very soon!
For now I need to rest. I cancelled all my appointments at the Auto Show. I won�t give any interviews for a few days.
I thank you all for your numerous support messages in my guest book! It really touches me and lifts my spirit.
Thanks!
Until next time,
Seb
| bjorn240 | 10-03-2006 03:47 PM |
Mo spin, Mo. The next time Travis falls, please assume he slipped in his kitchen.
| Mopho | 10-03-2006 03:54 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240;15478543]Mo spin, Mo. The next time Travis falls, please assume he slipped in his kitchen.[/QUOTE]
LOL!
Perhaps, but where did it say (with any authority, i.e. not internet rumors) that Loeb was on an ATV? I have not been following it that closely so perhaps I missed it
LOL!
Perhaps, but where did it say (with any authority, i.e. not internet rumors) that Loeb was on an ATV? I have not been following it that closely so perhaps I missed it
| bjorn240 | 10-03-2006 04:00 PM |
The first reports on WRC.com and on BBC.com were that it was on a quad.
Everything after that has said mountain bike. So it was either an original mis-translation, or some quick spin. I doubt the truth will ever be known!
Everything after that has said mountain bike. So it was either an original mis-translation, or some quick spin. I doubt the truth will ever be known!
| Mopho | 10-03-2006 04:42 PM |
I had just written it off as early inaccurate reports, but spin is certainly a possibility.
On the other hand, quite often on the Preview show they show the drivers snowmobiling, riding motorcycles, etc, so not really a secret these guys play hard on their time off
On the other hand, quite often on the Preview show they show the drivers snowmobiling, riding motorcycles, etc, so not really a secret these guys play hard on their time off
| slidecontrol | 10-04-2006 09:15 AM |
WRC.com is confirming that Colin McRae is going to replace Seb in Turkey!
Wow, that should be interesting. I wonder how his speed is going to be.
Wow, that should be interesting. I wonder how his speed is going to be.
| tt_ttf | 10-04-2006 09:57 PM |
[quote=slidecontrol;15487556]WRC.com is confirming that Colin McRae is going to replace Seb in Turkey!
Wow, that should be interesting. I wonder how his speed is going to be.[/quote]
Given how well he did in Australia and at the X-games, there is little doubt that Colin still has it......
Wow, that should be interesting. I wonder how his speed is going to be.[/quote]
Given how well he did in Australia and at the X-games, there is little doubt that Colin still has it......
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