| Fred Zaplitny | 03-02-2003 02:26 PM |
Melbourne Predictions.....Yes F-1 is back already!
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Well, only a week away and I can read the headlines of F1-Live now:
[B][COLOR=darkblue][SIZE=3]3-09-02[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR=darkblue][SIZE=4]Ferrari Humbled By Williams And McLaren[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
1. JPM
2. Ralf
3. Coulthard
4. Rubens
5. Schuey
6. DaMatta
[B][COLOR=darkblue][SIZE=3]3-09-02[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR=darkblue][SIZE=4]Ferrari Humbled By Williams And McLaren[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
1. JPM
2. Ralf
3. Coulthard
4. Rubens
5. Schuey
6. DaMatta
| HoRo1 | 03-02-2003 04:31 PM |
OH NO! :(
| stumpz | 03-02-2003 07:15 PM |
Hmm...
I've not posted regarding F1 in the past couple of years even though I've not even missed one race.
My predictions:
1. Scheuy
2. Ralf
3. Rubens
4. JPM
5. Kimi
6. Wildcard Trulli
Yes I think in "red"
Suresh
PS. Going to Canada and Indy this year.:D
I've not posted regarding F1 in the past couple of years even though I've not even missed one race.
My predictions:
1. Scheuy
2. Ralf
3. Rubens
4. JPM
5. Kimi
6. Wildcard Trulli
Yes I think in "red"
Suresh
PS. Going to Canada and Indy this year.:D
| gtguy | 03-02-2003 09:48 PM |
Thanks for starting this one, Fred! I was beginning to think that it was about that time. :D
1. Schumacher M.
2. Rubens
3. Schumacher R. (will finally realize that he has to beat Montoya to be taken seriously again within the team)
4. Kimi
5. JPM (he'll be fast, but will have tire wear issues)
6. DC
I look for the Toyotas to show much better than they did last year. BAR will have at least one engine failure, and Minardi will be slow, as per usual. I also look for Webber, in the Jaguar, to be in the top ten.
Kevin
1. Schumacher M.
2. Rubens
3. Schumacher R. (will finally realize that he has to beat Montoya to be taken seriously again within the team)
4. Kimi
5. JPM (he'll be fast, but will have tire wear issues)
6. DC
I look for the Toyotas to show much better than they did last year. BAR will have at least one engine failure, and Minardi will be slow, as per usual. I also look for Webber, in the Jaguar, to be in the top ten.
Kevin
| ChrisW | 03-02-2003 10:34 PM |
don't forget toyota. If they have successfully copied Ferrari's design, then they will be a problem for williams.
Don't know about any predictions, see what the new rules bring.
Don't know about any predictions, see what the new rules bring.
| OnTheGas | 03-03-2003 01:52 AM |
I'm Seeing Red Again
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[list=1][*]Michael - The best driver in the best car[*]Rubens - Will keep Michael honest[*]Kimi - I'm guessing his sophmore blues will come later in the season[*]David - He'll be hoping Kimi has sophmore blues sooner[*]Juan - Dragging that Williams chassis around behind the McLarens will be that best that can be done w/it[*]Ralfie - Keeping Juan honest[*]Jarno[*]Fernando[/list]Points are thru eighth now, right?
| TimStevens | 03-03-2003 08:09 AM |
Well, I normally don't contribute to these threads, but I'm psyched for the season to finally be starting, so what the hell :)
1 - M. Schumacher - why not?
2 - Coulthard - I'm hoping for big things from McLaren this year
3 - Barichello - will fight with Kimi the whole way
4 - Raikonnen
5 - JPM - a humbling start, if what Sir Frank is saying is true
6 - One of the toyotas (who the heck is driving for them this year?)
7 - R. Schumacher
8 - Button - I dunno... just guessing this far down the field :)
-tim
1 - M. Schumacher - why not?
2 - Coulthard - I'm hoping for big things from McLaren this year
3 - Barichello - will fight with Kimi the whole way
4 - Raikonnen
5 - JPM - a humbling start, if what Sir Frank is saying is true
6 - One of the toyotas (who the heck is driving for them this year?)
7 - R. Schumacher
8 - Button - I dunno... just guessing this far down the field :)
-tim
| OnTheGas | 03-03-2003 12:43 PM |
The New impreza.net F1P6 Group @ Motorsport.com
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"[b]impreza.net[/b]" is now a registered group at the internet's oldest continuing F1 Pick 6 competition at [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/index.asp?S=F1]www.motorsport.com[/URL]. It is easy to use, it is [b]free[/b], and we are also competing with thousands of F1 fans from around the world. I've been playing it since the mid-nineties, but the [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/history.asp]history[/URL] of this competition goes back to the eighties on the usenet group [URL=news://rec.autos.sport]rec.autos.sport[/url].
The advantage to this, is we can easily keep track of the competition between all of us impreza.net folks on a race by race basis, and thru-out the season.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, here are the urls:[list][*][URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/register.asp]Register[/URL], again there is no money involved... it's just an old-school internet, free as in free beer, "for fun", dealio for F1 fans world-wide.
[*]If you played at all last year, you are already registered, and can [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/update.asp]update your registration info[/URL] to add your membership in the impreza.net club.
[*]The key is that you will be asked for user a group. Type in "impreza.net", (minus the quotation marks of course). Questions? Here are their [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/messages/motd010219.asp]instructions for registering for a group.[/URL][/list]Let me know what you think about this dealio! Is anyone interested?
The advantage to this, is we can easily keep track of the competition between all of us impreza.net folks on a race by race basis, and thru-out the season.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, here are the urls:[list][*][URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/register.asp]Register[/URL], again there is no money involved... it's just an old-school internet, free as in free beer, "for fun", dealio for F1 fans world-wide.
[*]If you played at all last year, you are already registered, and can [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/update.asp]update your registration info[/URL] to add your membership in the impreza.net club.
[*]The key is that you will be asked for user a group. Type in "impreza.net", (minus the quotation marks of course). Questions? Here are their [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/messages/motd010219.asp]instructions for registering for a group.[/URL][/list]Let me know what you think about this dealio! Is anyone interested?
| pio!pio! | 03-03-2003 01:50 PM |
1) Rubens
2) Coulthard
3) Ralf
4) Panis
5) Villeneuve
6) Kimi
7) Webber
8) DaMatta
I think Montoya and MS will take each other out in the opening lap.
2) Coulthard
3) Ralf
4) Panis
5) Villeneuve
6) Kimi
7) Webber
8) DaMatta
I think Montoya and MS will take each other out in the opening lap.
| grandpa rex | 03-03-2003 04:07 PM |
Geez, I'm glad the season is finally upon us. It's been a cold and lonely winter. I've missed Fred Zaplitny's rantings.
Unfortunately, Fred I don't think that things are going to change much.
1. MS
2. RB
2. DC
4. JPM
5. Raikkonen
6. Frentzen
7. Panis
8. Jackie Newtown
9. Alonso fights JV hard, but Jacques gets the last point.
Surprises: Toyotas are on pace most of the weekend. Saubers run very well.
Not suprising: Ralfie finds a way to put his car out. Both Jags and Jordans DNF, but both Minardis finish, albeit last cars running.
Can't wait to see the pole strategies play out.
Unfortunately, Fred I don't think that things are going to change much.
1. MS
2. RB
2. DC
4. JPM
5. Raikkonen
6. Frentzen
7. Panis
8. Jackie Newtown
9. Alonso fights JV hard, but Jacques gets the last point.
Surprises: Toyotas are on pace most of the weekend. Saubers run very well.
Not suprising: Ralfie finds a way to put his car out. Both Jags and Jordans DNF, but both Minardis finish, albeit last cars running.
Can't wait to see the pole strategies play out.
| prost893 | 03-03-2003 04:14 PM |
I think Williams will struggle for a while until they get the new car's aero package in order. Toyota are improving. Thanks goodness another team is actually trying to step up. Pity BAR spend all this money and have nothinig to show for it.
MS
Rubens
Kimi
RS
DC
Panis
JPM
HHF
MS
Rubens
Kimi
RS
DC
Panis
JPM
HHF
| DO | 03-03-2003 04:45 PM |
All I want is renault to do well. I have a feeling Ferrari is going to dominate though.
| robp | 03-03-2003 06:41 PM |
Hmmm, Ferrari and McLaren are using last years cars, so I think Williams will be fastest this race. Probably at least one of the Williams will be out early due to mechanical failure. When Ferrari starts racing their new car the season will be as lopsided as last year. I think Villenueve has a reason to try again this year and will score a respectable number of points if the Honda stops blowing up.
1. JPM
2. MS
3. RB
4. Kimi
5. Trulli
6. DC
7. Villenueve
8. Weber
1. JPM
2. MS
3. RB
4. Kimi
5. Trulli
6. DC
7. Villenueve
8. Weber
| mykrrrr | 03-04-2003 09:54 AM |
1) Minardi
2) Tolman/Hart
3) Benetton/Ford
4) McLaren/TAG
oh wait...it's not the 80's. :lol:
I think Toyota will do better. Ferrari will dominate. Williams will complain. Jaguar will DNF. Minardi will dominate the back row. :(
MS should secretly test the Minardi and tell them exactly how to design the car to beat everyone but he Ferrari. That'd be cool. :D
-mykr.
2) Tolman/Hart
3) Benetton/Ford
4) McLaren/TAG
oh wait...it's not the 80's. :lol:
I think Toyota will do better. Ferrari will dominate. Williams will complain. Jaguar will DNF. Minardi will dominate the back row. :(
MS should secretly test the Minardi and tell them exactly how to design the car to beat everyone but he Ferrari. That'd be cool. :D
-mykr.
| Dr. WOT | 03-04-2003 11:40 AM |
Here we go again! I have high hope for the new points system. The no refuel after qualifing rule should make for a few interesting grids. My guess is it will make multistop strategies more viable.
As for the resuts, no reason to think anything other than Schewy, although a surprise would be welcome.
1> MS
2> KR
3> JPM
4> RS
5> DC
6> JT
7> NH
8> Jos the Boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the resuts, no reason to think anything other than Schewy, although a surprise would be welcome.
1> MS
2> KR
3> JPM
4> RS
5> DC
6> JT
7> NH
8> Jos the Boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-04-2003 12:00 PM |
Ah the Schumacher sheep. See them flock!
:lol:
:lol:
| LordBass | 03-04-2003 12:54 PM |
Re: The New impreza.net F1P6 Group @ Motorsport.com
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Of course, I'm going with MS to win. :rolleyes: .. Hey, it worked nine times last year.
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Of course, I'm going with MS to win. :rolleyes: .. Hey, it worked nine times last year.
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| erich_sc | 03-04-2003 04:54 PM |
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| johnfelstead | 03-04-2003 07:19 PM |
Ralf Firman for shock pole position followed by a first win
Justin wilson second
Jenson Button third
DC chokes and comes last
Shuey crashes out trying to pass from a tail qualifying postion
RB cries because his engine breaks on the warmup lap
Ralphy takes out JPM first corner
truly truely sucks
jaques attack sucks his dummy after overdriving and stuffing it turn3
Panis misses the start as he is having an aperatif in the motor home
Some crazy yank stops the race lap 2 after running on track waving a big chilli dog flag in an agresive manner at Ralphy boy.
Justin wilson second
Jenson Button third
DC chokes and comes last
Shuey crashes out trying to pass from a tail qualifying postion
RB cries because his engine breaks on the warmup lap
Ralphy takes out JPM first corner
truly truely sucks
jaques attack sucks his dummy after overdriving and stuffing it turn3
Panis misses the start as he is having an aperatif in the motor home
Some crazy yank stops the race lap 2 after running on track waving a big chilli dog flag in an agresive manner at Ralphy boy.
| Bonzo | 03-04-2003 11:45 PM |
Keke is gonna have a cig, then jump in the car and trounce the field.
| STX_REX | 03-05-2003 07:56 AM |
Since you liked this thread check this one out.
[URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=324831]Link[/URL]
[URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=324831]Link[/URL]
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-05-2003 10:00 AM |
Re: The New impreza.net F1P6 Group @ Motorsport.com
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by OnTheGas [/i]
[B]"[b]impreza.net[/b]" is now a registered group at the internet's oldest continuing F1 Pick 6 competition at [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/index.asp?S=F1]www.motorsport.com[/URL]. It is easy to use, it is [b]free[/b], and we are also competing with thousands of F1 fans from around the world. I've been playing it since the mid-nineties, but the [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/history.asp]history[/URL] of this competition goes back to the eighties on the usenet group [URL=news://rec.autos.sport]rec.autos.sport[/url].
The advantage to this, is we can easily keep track of the competition between all of us impreza.net folks on a race by race basis, and thru-out the season.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, here are the urls:[list][*][URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/register.asp]Register[/URL], again there is no money involved... it's just an old-school internet, free as in free beer, "for fun", dealio for F1 fans world-wide.
[*]If you played at all last year, you are already registered, and can [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/update.asp]update your registration info[/URL] to add your membership in the impreza.net club.
[*]The key is that you will be asked for user a group. Type in "impreza.net", (minus the quotation marks of course). Questions? Here are their [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/messages/motd010219.asp]instructions for registering for a group.[/URL][/list]Let me know what you think about this dealio! Is anyone interested? [/B][/QUOTE]
I registered and joined your group, but I don't see where to pick anything. I don't even see any references to impreza.net????
edit: Nevermind, I figured it out.
I aded Jaques and Jos the boss as my last two picks.
[B]"[b]impreza.net[/b]" is now a registered group at the internet's oldest continuing F1 Pick 6 competition at [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/index.asp?S=F1]www.motorsport.com[/URL]. It is easy to use, it is [b]free[/b], and we are also competing with thousands of F1 fans from around the world. I've been playing it since the mid-nineties, but the [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/history.asp]history[/URL] of this competition goes back to the eighties on the usenet group [URL=news://rec.autos.sport]rec.autos.sport[/url].
The advantage to this, is we can easily keep track of the competition between all of us impreza.net folks on a race by race basis, and thru-out the season.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, here are the urls:[list][*][URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/register.asp]Register[/URL], again there is no money involved... it's just an old-school internet, free as in free beer, "for fun", dealio for F1 fans world-wide.
[*]If you played at all last year, you are already registered, and can [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/update.asp]update your registration info[/URL] to add your membership in the impreza.net club.
[*]The key is that you will be asked for user a group. Type in "impreza.net", (minus the quotation marks of course). Questions? Here are their [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/messages/motd010219.asp]instructions for registering for a group.[/URL][/list]Let me know what you think about this dealio! Is anyone interested? [/B][/QUOTE]
I registered and joined your group, but I don't see where to pick anything. I don't even see any references to impreza.net????
edit: Nevermind, I figured it out.
I aded Jaques and Jos the boss as my last two picks.
| grandpa rex | 03-05-2003 02:52 PM |
[B]Some crazy yank stops the race lap 2 after running on track waving a big chilli dog flag in an agresive manner[/B]
Hey Fred, have a couple of Fosters for me while you're in Australia
Hey Fred, have a couple of Fosters for me while you're in Australia
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-05-2003 03:17 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]Ralf Firman for shock pole position followed by a first win
Justin wilson second
Jenson Button third
DC chokes and comes last
Shuey crashes out trying to pass from a tail qualifying postion
RB cries because his engine breaks on the warmup lap
Ralphy takes out JPM first corner
truly truely sucks
jaques attack sucks his dummy after overdriving and stuffing it turn3
Panis misses the start as he is having an aperatif in the motor home
Some crazy yank stops the race lap 2 after running on track waving a big chilli dog flag in an agresive manner at Ralphy boy. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I sense a bit of Brit favoritism here!
Don't you know Montoya will win!
[B]Ralf Firman for shock pole position followed by a first win
Justin wilson second
Jenson Button third
DC chokes and comes last
Shuey crashes out trying to pass from a tail qualifying postion
RB cries because his engine breaks on the warmup lap
Ralphy takes out JPM first corner
truly truely sucks
jaques attack sucks his dummy after overdriving and stuffing it turn3
Panis misses the start as he is having an aperatif in the motor home
Some crazy yank stops the race lap 2 after running on track waving a big chilli dog flag in an agresive manner at Ralphy boy. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I sense a bit of Brit favoritism here!
Don't you know Montoya will win!
| ChrisW | 03-07-2003 11:14 AM |
OTG, wrong brackets...
Villeneue and BAR did a great job considering they blew 2 engines in practice!
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[b]1. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'26"372 221.030 Km/h 3 [/b]
2. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'26"551 + 0'00"179 3
3. 16 VILLENEUVE BAR Honda B 1'26"832 + 0'00"460 3
4. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'27"103 + 0'00"731 3
5. 17 BUTTON BAR Honda B 1'27"159 + 0'00"787 3
6. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'27"242 + 0'00"870 3
7. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'27"255 + 0'00"883 3
8. 20 PANIS Toyota M 1'27"352 + 0'00"980 3
9. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'27"411 + 0'01"039 3
10. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'27"450 + 0'01"078 3
11. 21 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'27"478 + 0'01"106 3
12. 9 HEIDFELD Sauber Petronas B 1'27"510 + 0'01"138 3
13. 10 FRENTZEN Sauber Petronas B 1'27"563 + 0'01"191 3
14. 11 FISICHELLA Jordan Ford B 1'27"633 + 0'01"261 3
15. 14 WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth M 1'27"675 + 0'01"303 3
16. 4 R.SCHUMACHER Williams BMW M 1'28"266 + 0'01"894 3
17. 12 FIRMAN Jordan Ford B 1'29"977 + 0'03"605 3
18. 19 VERSTAPPEN Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"053 + 0'03"681 3
19. 15 PIZZONIA Jaguar Cosworth M 1'30"092 + 0'03"720 3
20. 18 WILSON Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"479 + 0'04"107 3
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Villeneue and BAR did a great job considering they blew 2 engines in practice!
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[b]1. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'26"372 221.030 Km/h 3 [/b]
2. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'26"551 + 0'00"179 3
3. 16 VILLENEUVE BAR Honda B 1'26"832 + 0'00"460 3
4. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'27"103 + 0'00"731 3
5. 17 BUTTON BAR Honda B 1'27"159 + 0'00"787 3
6. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'27"242 + 0'00"870 3
7. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'27"255 + 0'00"883 3
8. 20 PANIS Toyota M 1'27"352 + 0'00"980 3
9. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'27"411 + 0'01"039 3
10. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'27"450 + 0'01"078 3
11. 21 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'27"478 + 0'01"106 3
12. 9 HEIDFELD Sauber Petronas B 1'27"510 + 0'01"138 3
13. 10 FRENTZEN Sauber Petronas B 1'27"563 + 0'01"191 3
14. 11 FISICHELLA Jordan Ford B 1'27"633 + 0'01"261 3
15. 14 WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth M 1'27"675 + 0'01"303 3
16. 4 R.SCHUMACHER Williams BMW M 1'28"266 + 0'01"894 3
17. 12 FIRMAN Jordan Ford B 1'29"977 + 0'03"605 3
18. 19 VERSTAPPEN Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"053 + 0'03"681 3
19. 15 PIZZONIA Jaguar Cosworth M 1'30"092 + 0'03"720 3
20. 18 WILSON Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"479 + 0'04"107 3
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| erich_sc | 03-07-2003 12:16 PM |
I sure hope that BAR's engines don't die this race... I'd actually be quite surprised if they didn't given the poor reliability shown yesterday.
How about Villeneuve upping the anti with teammate Button? Wow, that sounds like that will be an interesting battle to watch this year.
How about Villeneuve upping the anti with teammate Button? Wow, that sounds like that will be an interesting battle to watch this year.
| gtguy | 03-07-2003 12:24 PM |
DaMatta was flat-out flying, until he hosed off the very last section. He was on pace for a top five, easily.
That format is interesting, I think. On the one hand, it removes the "traffic" complaint about qualifying, and keeps us from the 20 minutes of nothing happening, then Minardi processional, then everybody and their mamas on the track at the same time.
On the other hand, as with cycling time trials, sometimes where you are in the order can determine your time to a great extent, say if the early guys get wind, and the later guys don't. Likewise, if it rains early or late in the session, somebody will get hosed.
It's too early to tell if I like the new format, but I did like the programming line up of Rally Turkey, the Slideways Boys, then F1. That was cool.
Kevin
That format is interesting, I think. On the one hand, it removes the "traffic" complaint about qualifying, and keeps us from the 20 minutes of nothing happening, then Minardi processional, then everybody and their mamas on the track at the same time.
On the other hand, as with cycling time trials, sometimes where you are in the order can determine your time to a great extent, say if the early guys get wind, and the later guys don't. Likewise, if it rains early or late in the session, somebody will get hosed.
It's too early to tell if I like the new format, but I did like the programming line up of Rally Turkey, the Slideways Boys, then F1. That was cool.
Kevin
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-07-2003 12:33 PM |
Too bad none of this means jack. We shall see who holds the cards tonight.
| Dr. WOT | 03-07-2003 12:43 PM |
Agreed... the only thing that first session proved is that the first session is meaningless! :lol:
Although in the case of a rarly used track such as Melbourne or Hungry going last is a decided advantage. Going last in Barcelona where the track is being used all the time won't make any measurable difference.
Although in the case of a rarly used track such as Melbourne or Hungry going last is a decided advantage. Going last in Barcelona where the track is being used all the time won't make any measurable difference.
| OnTheGas | 03-07-2003 12:51 PM |
Chris - Thanks!
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[B]OTG, wrong brackets...[/B][/QUOTE]LOL! Thanks! I'm killing/deleting my previous post of friday q times, since yours is much prettier!
[B]OTG, wrong brackets...[/B][/QUOTE]LOL! Thanks! I'm killing/deleting my previous post of friday q times, since yours is much prettier!
| OnTheGas | 03-07-2003 03:15 PM |
da Matta's Sector Times
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gtguy [/i]
[B]DaMatta was flat-out flying, until he hosed off the very last section. He was on pace for a top five, easily.[/B][/QUOTE]That was impressive... Here are the sector times. Check da Matta's position in sector 1 & 2:
[code]Pos ----- Sector 1 ----- ----- Sector 2 ----- ----- Sector 3 -----
1. Barrichello 28.740 Panis 23.030 Barrichello 34.564
2. Raikkonen 28.840 Raikkonen 23.046 Raikkonen 34.665
3. Button 28.886 da Matta 23.061 Alonso 34.719
4. Villeneuve 28.887 Villeneuve 23.064 M.Schumacher 34.760
5. da Matta 28.935 Barrichello 23.068 Panis 34.818
6. Montoya 29.055 Coulthard 23.098 Villeneuve 34.881
7. Fisichella 29.079 M.Schumacher 23.198 Trulli 34.900
8. Coulthard 29.080 R.Schumacher 23.214 Button 34.950
9. Trulli 29.090 Webber 23.231 Frentzen 34.975
10. Heidfeld 29.141 Heidfeld 23.242 Webber 35.048
11. M.Schumacher 29.145 Montoya 23.264 Coulthard 35.064
12. Alonso 29.200 Pizzonia 23.272 Heidfeld 35.127
13. Frentzen 29.265 Frentzen 23.323 Montoya 35.131
14. Firman 29.378 Button 23.323 Fisichella 35.149
15. Webber 29.396 Alonso 23.336 R.Schumacher 35.204
16. Pizzonia 29.430 Fisichella 23.405 da Matta 35.482
17. Panis 29.504 Trulli 23.421 Wilson 36.313
18. Verstappen 29.792 Firman 23.600 Verstappen 36.386
19. R.Schumacher 29.848 Verstappen 23.875 Firman 36.999
20. Wilson 30.191 Wilson 23.975 Pizzonia 37.390[/code]
[B]DaMatta was flat-out flying, until he hosed off the very last section. He was on pace for a top five, easily.[/B][/QUOTE]That was impressive... Here are the sector times. Check da Matta's position in sector 1 & 2:
[code]Pos ----- Sector 1 ----- ----- Sector 2 ----- ----- Sector 3 -----
1. Barrichello 28.740 Panis 23.030 Barrichello 34.564
2. Raikkonen 28.840 Raikkonen 23.046 Raikkonen 34.665
3. Button 28.886 da Matta 23.061 Alonso 34.719
4. Villeneuve 28.887 Villeneuve 23.064 M.Schumacher 34.760
5. da Matta 28.935 Barrichello 23.068 Panis 34.818
6. Montoya 29.055 Coulthard 23.098 Villeneuve 34.881
7. Fisichella 29.079 M.Schumacher 23.198 Trulli 34.900
8. Coulthard 29.080 R.Schumacher 23.214 Button 34.950
9. Trulli 29.090 Webber 23.231 Frentzen 34.975
10. Heidfeld 29.141 Heidfeld 23.242 Webber 35.048
11. M.Schumacher 29.145 Montoya 23.264 Coulthard 35.064
12. Alonso 29.200 Pizzonia 23.272 Heidfeld 35.127
13. Frentzen 29.265 Frentzen 23.323 Montoya 35.131
14. Firman 29.378 Button 23.323 Fisichella 35.149
15. Webber 29.396 Alonso 23.336 R.Schumacher 35.204
16. Pizzonia 29.430 Fisichella 23.405 da Matta 35.482
17. Panis 29.504 Trulli 23.421 Wilson 36.313
18. Verstappen 29.792 Firman 23.600 Verstappen 36.386
19. R.Schumacher 29.848 Verstappen 23.875 Firman 36.999
20. Wilson 30.191 Wilson 23.975 Pizzonia 37.390[/code]
| OnTheGas | 03-07-2003 03:47 PM |
Re: New Qualifying Format
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Essentially, Friday's qualifying format is the closest that we will get to the old style, drain the tanks, tweak the suspension, and let the driver take his best shot at qualifying.
The Saturday session is essentially the first lap of the race. The cars are all loaded up with the amount of fuel by which they will start the race, and the driver must not toss the car off the course, as they will at best lose time, and at the worst... if they bust up the car into the barriers, I'm not sure what the regulations allow, but if they can start, then they will have to start from the back of the grid.
In a nutshell,
Friday = empty tanks
Saturday = race tanks
At the sametime, on Friday, getting only one lap to get it all correct can be very difficult. During the normal Saturday 12 lap format, some drivers would complain that they made small mistakes on their hot laps, therefore left a little bit of time out there on the track. In other words, in 12 laps, they were not able to get a perfect, maximum speed lap. The odds of a driver putting such a lap down in one shot on Friday, will be much less frequent. In addition, since it is Friday, the teams have less time to learn the best set-up for the track and ambient temps, so many, if not most cars will be unbalanced in their handling during the Friday qualifying...
So I don't know if Dr. WOT is 100% correct in that Friday is mostly meaningless... For instance, Honda's performance was certainly noteworthy yesterday. As was da Matta's speed in sectors 1 & 2.
But if you think about F1 like Ferrari does, which is, "how do we maximize points so that we will win the championships?", then Friday's qualifying has less to do with scoring points, than did Saturday's qualifying in the old format.
So Friday qualifying is the new Bernie-vision... a made for TV spectacle which takes away from the track time which teams could be using to chase down the best chassis set-ups for the track, which would make for a better race on Sunday. C'est la vie...
The Saturday session is essentially the first lap of the race. The cars are all loaded up with the amount of fuel by which they will start the race, and the driver must not toss the car off the course, as they will at best lose time, and at the worst... if they bust up the car into the barriers, I'm not sure what the regulations allow, but if they can start, then they will have to start from the back of the grid.
In a nutshell,
Friday = empty tanks
Saturday = race tanks
At the sametime, on Friday, getting only one lap to get it all correct can be very difficult. During the normal Saturday 12 lap format, some drivers would complain that they made small mistakes on their hot laps, therefore left a little bit of time out there on the track. In other words, in 12 laps, they were not able to get a perfect, maximum speed lap. The odds of a driver putting such a lap down in one shot on Friday, will be much less frequent. In addition, since it is Friday, the teams have less time to learn the best set-up for the track and ambient temps, so many, if not most cars will be unbalanced in their handling during the Friday qualifying...
So I don't know if Dr. WOT is 100% correct in that Friday is mostly meaningless... For instance, Honda's performance was certainly noteworthy yesterday. As was da Matta's speed in sectors 1 & 2.
But if you think about F1 like Ferrari does, which is, "how do we maximize points so that we will win the championships?", then Friday's qualifying has less to do with scoring points, than did Saturday's qualifying in the old format.
So Friday qualifying is the new Bernie-vision... a made for TV spectacle which takes away from the track time which teams could be using to chase down the best chassis set-ups for the track, which would make for a better race on Sunday. C'est la vie...
| gtguy | 03-07-2003 11:13 PM |
Well, the more things change...
Schumacher's lap was exceptional, and Rubens can claim that Kimi flustered him all he wants, but he was down on Michael before running aground of Kimi, who was way off the racing line anyhow.
Now, the real question is, what kind of fuel is everyone running? Given that qualifying times are 3-4 seconds under last year's pole time, and Australia is a one-stopper, it's a safe bet that everyone is running race fuel, which makes those Saubers impressive indeed, though something tells me that they'll be doing two stops.
Kimi needs the karma police. :lol:
I noticed that all of the cars except the Ferraris seemed twitchy. My guess is that has to do with the loss of practice and setup time. Also, I know that there's a lot of development left, but last year's (modified) Ferrari is .9 faster than the new Williams?
The race should be very interesting.
Kevin
Schumacher's lap was exceptional, and Rubens can claim that Kimi flustered him all he wants, but he was down on Michael before running aground of Kimi, who was way off the racing line anyhow.
Now, the real question is, what kind of fuel is everyone running? Given that qualifying times are 3-4 seconds under last year's pole time, and Australia is a one-stopper, it's a safe bet that everyone is running race fuel, which makes those Saubers impressive indeed, though something tells me that they'll be doing two stops.
Kimi needs the karma police. :lol:
I noticed that all of the cars except the Ferraris seemed twitchy. My guess is that has to do with the loss of practice and setup time. Also, I know that there's a lot of development left, but last year's (modified) Ferrari is .9 faster than the new Williams?
The race should be very interesting.
Kevin
| ForceFed4 | 03-08-2003 02:49 AM |
What about Minardi?
I guess they'll start from the back of the pack, but it seems they must have staged that. There's no way both drivers would make the same mistake...
I guess they'll start from the back of the pack, but it seems they must have staged that. There's no way both drivers would make the same mistake...
| Gil | 03-08-2003 04:49 AM |
Yup. It was "staged".
They want to give the mechanics the night to work on the cars.
It's been good so far. Nice weather and everyone here is psych'd. Webber is like a national hero here. The V8's that ran later was pretty cool too.
They want to give the mechanics the night to work on the cars.
It's been good so far. Nice weather and everyone here is psych'd. Webber is like a national hero here. The V8's that ran later was pretty cool too.
| HoRo1 | 03-08-2003 10:15 AM |
Another shellacking. Just like last season. Sir Frank is PRAYING that Ferrari is on a 2 stop strategy - not that it matters.
| TimStevens | 03-08-2003 10:18 AM |
Sounds like you made it to the race, Gil! Have a great time! Take lots of pictures :)
| OAKOS Automotive | 03-08-2003 12:17 PM |
I don't really like the new format already. Qualifying used to be all about putting in one lap as fast as the man and machinery would allow. Now we get cars strategically avoiding making a fast lap at all. :confused: What kind of qualifying session is that?
If anything, I think that Friday's times should allow the drivers to pick the order they want to run on Saturday, fastest guy picks first, second fastest next, and so on. That would eliminate any chance of sandbagging on Friday due to strategic concerns like Saturday's weather.
At least in this format each team gets equal TV coverage on Friday and Saturday and we will see some good drives from the back of the field like Kimmi will need to do tonight.
-Dave
If anything, I think that Friday's times should allow the drivers to pick the order they want to run on Saturday, fastest guy picks first, second fastest next, and so on. That would eliminate any chance of sandbagging on Friday due to strategic concerns like Saturday's weather.
At least in this format each team gets equal TV coverage on Friday and Saturday and we will see some good drives from the back of the field like Kimmi will need to do tonight.
-Dave
| OnTheGas | 03-08-2003 12:40 PM |
Re: BAR's Honda Engine Reliability
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[B]I sure hope that BAR's engines don't die this race... I'd actually be quite surprised if they didn't given the poor reliability shown <in Friday practises>.[/B][/QUOTE]Good news for BAR fans, or those curious as to the Honda engine reliability. Shuhei Nakamoto, Engineering Director, Honda Racing Development said the following after Saturday's qualifying, [quote][b]As a counter measure to yesterday morning's problem both drivers are using the engine we ran for the majority our winter test programme.[/b][/quote]So it looks like Honda installed an advanced engine for Friday's practise, but installed their more reliable version for Saturday and Sunday. In light of their impressive qualifying positions, (JV 6th & Button 8th), one could assume that they are running light tanks for a 2 stop race. It is hard to judge what their true performance will be...
As a matter of fact, I wonder if anyone will be running a one-stop race this year.
Of course the whole goal of having the cars qualify in their race set-ups and fuel loads, is to force more on-track battles. I'll take the cynical view that on-track battles will remain difficult until Bernie reduces the aerodynamic downforce available to the front wings, since F1 cars are particularly vulnerable to dirty air. If I recall, it near impossible to pass another car on most circuits unless you are lapping ~1 sec a lap faster... In F1, a second a lap is a life-time.
I hope I'm wrong and we all get to see dogfights all race long up and down the field! :) Bring it on!
[B]I sure hope that BAR's engines don't die this race... I'd actually be quite surprised if they didn't given the poor reliability shown <in Friday practises>.[/B][/QUOTE]Good news for BAR fans, or those curious as to the Honda engine reliability. Shuhei Nakamoto, Engineering Director, Honda Racing Development said the following after Saturday's qualifying, [quote][b]As a counter measure to yesterday morning's problem both drivers are using the engine we ran for the majority our winter test programme.[/b][/quote]So it looks like Honda installed an advanced engine for Friday's practise, but installed their more reliable version for Saturday and Sunday. In light of their impressive qualifying positions, (JV 6th & Button 8th), one could assume that they are running light tanks for a 2 stop race. It is hard to judge what their true performance will be...
As a matter of fact, I wonder if anyone will be running a one-stop race this year.
Of course the whole goal of having the cars qualify in their race set-ups and fuel loads, is to force more on-track battles. I'll take the cynical view that on-track battles will remain difficult until Bernie reduces the aerodynamic downforce available to the front wings, since F1 cars are particularly vulnerable to dirty air. If I recall, it near impossible to pass another car on most circuits unless you are lapping ~1 sec a lap faster... In F1, a second a lap is a life-time.
I hope I'm wrong and we all get to see dogfights all race long up and down the field! :) Bring it on!
| ChrisW | 03-08-2003 12:41 PM |
Well after watching the first qualifing efforts by benie-vision I have a couple of comments.
The tire rule is stupid. You should be able to change tires between qualifying and the race. I mean, what happens if it rains the day of the race? Are they really going to send everyone out on slicks?
If a driver does not have a clean open track (such as Montoya and Rubens) they should get an imediate re-run. This problem will only get worse after they remove the radio communitcation between the driver and pit.
All cars should be required to do a qualifying lap. Minardi should not be allowed to run since they never ran a qualifying lap.
The two qualifying sessions should be averaged to produce the final positions. Otherwise, the first session is almost meaninless, and is nothing more than a fancy test session.
The tire rule is stupid. You should be able to change tires between qualifying and the race. I mean, what happens if it rains the day of the race? Are they really going to send everyone out on slicks?
If a driver does not have a clean open track (such as Montoya and Rubens) they should get an imediate re-run. This problem will only get worse after they remove the radio communitcation between the driver and pit.
All cars should be required to do a qualifying lap. Minardi should not be allowed to run since they never ran a qualifying lap.
The two qualifying sessions should be averaged to produce the final positions. Otherwise, the first session is almost meaninless, and is nothing more than a fancy test session.
| ForceFed4 | 03-08-2003 12:55 PM |
For tires, I believe they're allowed to change them as long as they use a set that has more laps on it than the ones run in qualifying. As is the case for Kimi, who obviously can't start on a blown left rear.
Are they actually going through with removing driver/pit communication? I know telemetry is gone, but I can't believe they'd actually eliminate radio contact, seems absolutely rediculous. Since the whole (official) point of the one-lap qualifying is to give each driver a clean lap, I agree; if you don't get a clean lap for reasons beyond your control you should get another. Unofficially, I think the change is to make for more TV action on the track, so I doubt we'll see that change.
As for Minardi, I too find it bizarre that they'll get to run; is being able to work on the cars a big enough advantage to accept starting from the back of the pack?
On the other hand, if it was staged to rub a huge loophole in the FIA's face, then I applaud their giant cojones for doing it. The FIA seems to be completely rudderless, making random rules without truely thinking them through or carefully drafting them, and quite frankly, if that allows certain teams to ride roughshod all over them, too damn bad, maybe they'll learn to stop meddling before they know the impact of their proposed changes. I doubt it though, they'll probably just blast Minardi for daring to do that...
Are they actually going through with removing driver/pit communication? I know telemetry is gone, but I can't believe they'd actually eliminate radio contact, seems absolutely rediculous. Since the whole (official) point of the one-lap qualifying is to give each driver a clean lap, I agree; if you don't get a clean lap for reasons beyond your control you should get another. Unofficially, I think the change is to make for more TV action on the track, so I doubt we'll see that change.
As for Minardi, I too find it bizarre that they'll get to run; is being able to work on the cars a big enough advantage to accept starting from the back of the pack?
On the other hand, if it was staged to rub a huge loophole in the FIA's face, then I applaud their giant cojones for doing it. The FIA seems to be completely rudderless, making random rules without truely thinking them through or carefully drafting them, and quite frankly, if that allows certain teams to ride roughshod all over them, too damn bad, maybe they'll learn to stop meddling before they know the impact of their proposed changes. I doubt it though, they'll probably just blast Minardi for daring to do that...
| OnTheGas | 03-08-2003 03:56 PM |
Minardi's Q Tactics
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ForceFed4 [/i]
[B]As for Minardi, I too find it bizarre that they'll get to run; is being able to work on the cars a big enough advantage to accept starting from the back of the pack?[/B][/QUOTE]Hello! Did anyone think that Minardi was going to start from the front row? Well we could all speculate, but here is what the Minardi team had to say about it:[quote][i]Minardi owner Paul Stoddart:[/i]
[b]It was a conscious decision, we checked the rules, made absolutely sure we could do what we're doing, so for us there was little downside and mega-upside if it rains.
If it rains we're going to have a good advantage, because we'll have a wet set-up on the car, we'll have the right fuel load on the car and we'll be ready to go out and race. If it's dry, we'd probably have been at the back anyway so we've probably lost nothing. I think it's a bold move but hopefully a sensible one.
This is not a case of Minardi doing this at every race, we may never do it again, but if there is a balance of probability, a worthwhile risk versus reward scenario that gives us the advantage over our opponents, then that's what's racing's all about[/b][/quote]Stoddart was raised in Melbourne where the weather is notoriously fickle. Minardi had consulted with the governing body of the race before using this tactic.
[B]As for Minardi, I too find it bizarre that they'll get to run; is being able to work on the cars a big enough advantage to accept starting from the back of the pack?[/B][/QUOTE]Hello! Did anyone think that Minardi was going to start from the front row? Well we could all speculate, but here is what the Minardi team had to say about it:[quote][i]Minardi owner Paul Stoddart:[/i]
[b]It was a conscious decision, we checked the rules, made absolutely sure we could do what we're doing, so for us there was little downside and mega-upside if it rains.
If it rains we're going to have a good advantage, because we'll have a wet set-up on the car, we'll have the right fuel load on the car and we'll be ready to go out and race. If it's dry, we'd probably have been at the back anyway so we've probably lost nothing. I think it's a bold move but hopefully a sensible one.
This is not a case of Minardi doing this at every race, we may never do it again, but if there is a balance of probability, a worthwhile risk versus reward scenario that gives us the advantage over our opponents, then that's what's racing's all about[/b][/quote]Stoddart was raised in Melbourne where the weather is notoriously fickle. Minardi had consulted with the governing body of the race before using this tactic.
| Max | 03-08-2003 09:58 PM |
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| steve_d | 03-09-2003 07:27 AM |
dude you're so wrong...
No one could have predicted this race...
anyone in Vegas have the pay off for predicting...
coulthard
montoya
kimi
sjd
No one could have predicted this race...
anyone in Vegas have the pay off for predicting...
coulthard
montoya
kimi
sjd
| Leonardo | 03-09-2003 08:01 AM |
That race between Kimmi and Shumey was what I think the best one of the race.
Montoya would have won if he hadn't spun but as he said in his own words in the press conference, "**** happens!"
I think the new tires are great (At least for this race).
Now for the facts,
First time since 99 that a Ferrari isn't on the podium.
First time since 98 that a Bridgstone isn't on the podium.
And the grand question, What was the last time Michael wasn't on the podium?
Leo
Montoya would have won if he hadn't spun but as he said in his own words in the press conference, "**** happens!"
I think the new tires are great (At least for this race).
Now for the facts,
First time since 99 that a Ferrari isn't on the podium.
First time since 98 that a Bridgstone isn't on the podium.
And the grand question, What was the last time Michael wasn't on the podium?
Leo
| Leonardo | 03-09-2003 08:52 AM |
BTW, Did anyone else see the logo [COLOR=blue](555 [/COLOR](just like the ones on the WRC Subies) on David's and Kimmi's suits???
I was like (LOOK, LOOK THERE IT IS!!!!!)
Leo :lol:
I was like (LOOK, LOOK THERE IT IS!!!!!)
Leo :lol:
| TimStevens | 03-09-2003 10:32 AM |
Whoo hoo!!! Go [IMG]http://www.mclaren.com/images/logo.gif[/IMG]
| PurePower | 03-09-2003 11:17 AM |
Are you sure it was 555? I'm pretty sure British American Tabbacco owns 555. And having their own racing team wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?
| TimStevens | 03-09-2003 11:19 AM |
I don't see a 555 :confused:
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3126/1d/www.f1-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_323.jpg[/IMG]
Do you mean the three red swoops? That's just McLaren's logo.
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3126/1d/www.f1-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_323.jpg[/IMG]
Do you mean the three red swoops? That's just McLaren's logo.
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-09-2003 03:09 PM |
So are you Schumacher fans seeing red yet?!
[SIZE=4]BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA![/SIZE]
Ferrari sucks!
Chilidog rules! Well he would have won if he didn't screw up.
We'll let SpongeDave SquareHead have this one.
[SIZE=4]BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA![/SIZE]
Ferrari sucks!
Chilidog rules! Well he would have won if he didn't screw up.
We'll let SpongeDave SquareHead have this one.
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-09-2003 03:11 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens [/i]
[B]I don't see a 555 :confused:
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3126/1d/www.f1-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_323.jpg[/IMG]
Do you mean the three red swoops? That's just McLaren's logo. [/B][/QUOTE]
Is it me or does Montoya look stoned in this pic?
Maybe that's why he spun.
:lol:
[B]I don't see a 555 :confused:
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3126/1d/www.f1-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_323.jpg[/IMG]
Do you mean the three red swoops? That's just McLaren's logo. [/B][/QUOTE]
Is it me or does Montoya look stoned in this pic?
Maybe that's why he spun.
:lol:
| TimStevens | 03-09-2003 03:30 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fred Zaplitny [/i]
[B]Is it me or does Montoya look stoned in this pic?[/B][/QUOTE]
I think that's the "**** happens" expression ;)
<conspiracy_theory>
Anyone else think Villeneuve came in a lap late to deliberately screw up his teammate's race?
</conspiracy_theory>
[B]Is it me or does Montoya look stoned in this pic?[/B][/QUOTE]
I think that's the "**** happens" expression ;)
<conspiracy_theory>
Anyone else think Villeneuve came in a lap late to deliberately screw up his teammate's race?
</conspiracy_theory>
| Fred Zaplitny | 03-09-2003 04:05 PM |
There's just one more thing I gotta post....
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Obligatory pitbabe pic:
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3126/1d/www.f1-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_413.jpg[/IMG]
Okay, now the thread is complete!
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3126/1d/www.f1-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_413.jpg[/IMG]
Okay, now the thread is complete!
| OAKOS Automotive | 03-09-2003 07:46 PM |
Dude, I think that "Pit Babe" on the far left used to be a guy. The other three look authentically female though. :lol:
-Dave
-Dave
| OnTheGas | 03-10-2003 12:35 AM |
Re: The New impreza.net F1P6 Group @ Motorsport.com
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[B]"[b]impreza.net[/b]" is now a registered group at the internet's oldest continuing F1 Pick 6 competition at [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/index.asp?S=F1]www.motorsport.com[/URL].
<Then mucho blah, blah, blah>
Let me know what you think about this dealio! Is anyone interested? [/B][/QUOTE]Jeez! I guess you folks were interested!
Check out the[URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/p6/results.asp?S=F1&G=impreza.net&K=R] impreza.net current F1P6 standings![/URL] We did pretty good! Our average score is 31, which is not bad for the first race of the season, especially since it was a rainy race, too.
Regards,
Ken
[B]"[b]impreza.net[/b]" is now a registered group at the internet's oldest continuing F1 Pick 6 competition at [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/compete/p6/index.asp?S=F1]www.motorsport.com[/URL].
<Then mucho blah, blah, blah>
Let me know what you think about this dealio! Is anyone interested? [/B][/QUOTE]Jeez! I guess you folks were interested!
Check out the[URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/p6/results.asp?S=F1&G=impreza.net&K=R] impreza.net current F1P6 standings![/URL] We did pretty good! Our average score is 31, which is not bad for the first race of the season, especially since it was a rainy race, too.
Regards,
Ken
| ArtGecko | 03-10-2003 10:58 PM |
Re: Re: The New impreza.net F1P6 Group @ Motorsport.com
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[B]Jeez! I guess you folks were interested!
Check out the[URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/p6/results.asp?S=F1&G=impreza.net&K=R] impreza.net current F1P6 standings![/URL] We did pretty good! Our average score is 31, which is not bad for the first race of the season, especially since it was a rainy race, too.
Regards,
Ken [/B][/QUOTE]
What a spread we had too! That's me in the middle with 26. I don't post here often.
I see several of us thought CdM might come in and be a top runner like JPM did a couple years ago.
You and I had 5 of the 8 the same, but I took a couple of fliers. Big standings difference between 40th and 2629th! Thought JPM wouldn't finish, again...
Thanks for pointing out the link,
Steve
[B]Jeez! I guess you folks were interested!
Check out the[URL=http://motorsport.com/compete/p6/results.asp?S=F1&G=impreza.net&K=R] impreza.net current F1P6 standings![/URL] We did pretty good! Our average score is 31, which is not bad for the first race of the season, especially since it was a rainy race, too.
Regards,
Ken [/B][/QUOTE]
What a spread we had too! That's me in the middle with 26. I don't post here often.
I see several of us thought CdM might come in and be a top runner like JPM did a couple years ago.
You and I had 5 of the 8 the same, but I took a couple of fliers. Big standings difference between 40th and 2629th! Thought JPM wouldn't finish, again...
Thanks for pointing out the link,
Steve
| Gil | 08-01-2003 03:21 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PurePower [/i]
[B]Are you sure it was 555? I'm pretty sure British American Tabbacco owns 555. And having their own racing team wouldn't that be a conflict of interest? [/B][/QUOTE]
a little bit late, but you can blame timstevens for turning me on to my memories of the melbourne race.
confirmed. i'm looking at a pack of 555's and it says "555 State Express of London" on the front, and "British American Tobacco Group" on the side.
what possessed me to pick the 555's over my regular Malboros tonight i don't know.
[B]Are you sure it was 555? I'm pretty sure British American Tabbacco owns 555. And having their own racing team wouldn't that be a conflict of interest? [/B][/QUOTE]
a little bit late, but you can blame timstevens for turning me on to my memories of the melbourne race.
confirmed. i'm looking at a pack of 555's and it says "555 State Express of London" on the front, and "British American Tobacco Group" on the side.
what possessed me to pick the 555's over my regular Malboros tonight i don't know.
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