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My custom decklid spoiler part 1

Rdrcr 06-28-2005 05:46 PM

My custom decklid spoiler
Here are the pics of my custom decklid spoiler. The pictures came out okay, we did not have very good lighting at the track.

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/14jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/8.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/9jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/10jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/11jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/12jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/13jpg[/url]

Mike
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Rdrcr 06-28-2005 05:46 PM

This is my custom spoiler for the rear decklid. It was designed and fabricated by Bryant Fabrication in Camarillo California. The owner/fabricator is a friend of mine and wanted to design something unique for the Subaru. Originally, I was going to purchase the Mines rear spoiler. I showed some pictures of the Mines to Mr. Bryant and his response was, let me make one. Knowing how good his work is, I could not resist.

The project started out with a new �no holes� decklid from Subaru. Since my car was an STi, I also purchased the WRX decklid strut bars(left & right) and STi emblem. From there he cut pieces of stainless steel and formed them by hand to the decklid. He then welded these pieces in place. The decklid then had to have the welds cleaned up(which they were fantastic to begin with). Finally the decklid was sent for bodywork and paint.

The overall design was a combined effort, but mostly his. I told him initially what I was looking for and he took it from there. The entire shape of the decklid was of his design. I had expressed that I was looking for something between the Mines spoiler and an Audi S4. There was a brief discussion about Nascar spoilers. I did not see the final product until it was already painted. Yes, I do have faith in his work. The finished decklid does look like it came from the factory.

All of this does come at a price (and no, nothing is free, even for friends). Parts, materials, labor, and paint was not cheap. In the tune of $2000.00, which is not for the light wallet? However, one does have to realize, this decklid is fabricated by hand. And to me, it was worth every penny.

To top it off, the spoiler is not perfect. The left side is slightly higher than the right. That is one of the things I like most about it. It is truly a hand fabricated, unique spoiler.

The response I have received so far has been really cool. From people in parking lots making it difficult for me to leave, to bizarre looks on the roadway. Over the weekend through yesterday I was at a track event. I talked to a good amount of people that really liked it. Some even asked if they could take pictures of the car! Some people(that did not know Subaru) swore it was factory! I definitely have spent a sufficient amount of time talking with people about the spoiler, which I enjoy doing. It is a very nice piece and I am really happy with the way it turned out.

Mike
tasq 06-28-2005 05:52 PM

looks pretty coo... certainly not worth 2 grand :eek:
SubasaurusWrex 06-28-2005 05:53 PM

but still no full shots of the car...
Rdrcr 06-28-2005 05:59 PM

[QUOTE=SubasaurusWrex]but still no full shots of the car...[/QUOTE]

I am hoping extra pictures can be posted soon. I was not present when the pictures were taken. If I was there would of been full shots of the entire car!

Mike
Rdrcr 06-28-2005 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=tasq]looks pretty coo... certainly not worth 2 grand :eek:[/QUOTE]

Its not for everyone! :D

Mike
booimaghost 06-28-2005 06:33 PM

Monte Carlo :confused:
USA 79S 06-28-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=booimaghost]Monte Carlo :confused:[/QUOTE]

Funny, I had that thought in mind even before I saw you post it.
soji 06-28-2005 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=booimaghost]Monte Carlo :confused:[/QUOTE]
thats what i was thinking when i saw it
clsmooth71 06-28-2005 06:39 PM

interesting, but how about a side profile shot of the WHOLE car?
sidewayz 06-28-2005 06:43 PM

sorry...I could have one made for about $500.. 2k is bs
Subaruist 06-28-2005 06:47 PM

I have a hand made bridge for sale...only $3 million, interested?

Ok, ok, just kidding...though I cannot justify spending that much on a spoiler (non-functional and crooked), like you said, it's not for everyone. Good shizzle!
Rdrcr 06-28-2005 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=booimaghost]Monte Carlo :confused:[/QUOTE]

Now I'm embarassed! :lol:
IronMonkeyL255 06-28-2005 07:50 PM

I think it looks slick.

Not sure it's worth $2k, but it looks good.
ittybitty_STI 06-28-2005 08:00 PM

Nice look i like it cause of the unique style but i know i would spend 2gs on it.
imprezive one 06-28-2005 08:11 PM

Innovative, original, subtle, stylish, hand-crafted, all things I love, I think it looks outstanding...


...but nowhere near $2,000 outstanding.

I think a lot of fabricators out there that weren't your friends could have made it for a lot less.
garie 06-28-2005 08:16 PM

i think its cool, different, unique but expensive at 2k.

but watever floats your boat man.

now go get urself some 20k widebody fenders.
haloseven 06-28-2005 08:31 PM

i think he's factoring in retail cost of a new trunklid and paint. that cant be cheap.
Rdrcr 06-28-2005 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=haloseven]i think he's factoring in retail cost of a new trunklid and paint. that cant be cheap.[/QUOTE]

This is correct!

$2,000 was the total cost of the project, well slightly more. ;)

Edit: Price breakdown:

Decklid $364.60
Torsen spring $31.55
Torsen spring $33.27
STi Emblem $29.20
Materials $268.13
Paint $450.00
Time/Labor $850.00

Total cost $2026.75

Mike
Uncle Scotty 06-28-2005 09:36 PM

....wish I had $2k to blow like that.....again :rolleyes:
Needles 06-28-2005 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=Rdrcr]This is correct!

$2,000 was the total cost of the project, well slightly more. ;)

Edit: Price breakdown:

Decklid $364.60
Torsen spring $31.55
Torsen spring $33.27
STi Emblem $29.20
Materials $268.13
Paint $450.00
Time/Labor $850.00

Total cost $2026.75

Mike[/QUOTE]
Your "friend "charged you $850 bucks.That doesn't sound like a very good friend. :huh:
ittybitty_STI 06-28-2005 09:54 PM

Or is that what he would charge to someone like us? Did you calcualte what we would pay if we wanted that?
jefmcc 06-28-2005 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=Rdrcr] Knowing how good his work is, I could not resist.[/quote]

I hope all his work isn't this "good".

[quote]
There was a brief discussion about Nascar spoilers. [/qoute] :lol:

[quote]The finished decklid does look like it came from the factory.[/quote]

What factory?

[quote]To top it off, the spoiler is not perfect. The left side is slightly higher than the right. That is one of the things I like most about it. It is truly a hand fabricated, unique spoiler.[/quote]

For $2000 that "thing" should have been made flawless. But if you like it, more power to ya.
Uncle Scotty 06-29-2005 03:12 AM

[QUOTE=jefmcc]I hope all his work isn't this "good".

[quote]
There was a brief discussion about Nascar spoilers. [/qoute] :lol:



What factory?



For $2000 that "thing" should have been made flawless. But if you like it, more power to ya.[/QUOTE]


.....DO NOT knock fab'd work until you have done a good bit of it yourself.....I have fab'd stuff like the above and it 'aint easy......for a one off....I'd say it looks pretty damn good, by the pics
nate49509 06-29-2005 03:26 AM

I kinda like it. I'd like to see a full shot of the car though.
humara 06-29-2005 06:27 AM

extra uneven? its gonna cost ya...
good thing it wasn't more uneven, he would have jacked the price up even higher.

how many hours in the wind tunnel did the $2000 include? i want to see the downforce to drag ration chart!

for an extra $1000 i'll throw in a couple of dings on the car to go with the uneveness.
pezman04wrx 06-29-2005 07:51 AM

Damn man ... :eek: ... While I think it looks good, it is certainly unique to the rex world, but it does look just like a Monte Carlo fin ... It does look sharp though ... But $450 for paint, $850 in labor ... My god man ... Not to mention that pretty much all the stuff you bought could've been gotten for free ... But hey, you can't take it with you :lol: ... <<< Money that is :D
hpracingwrx 06-29-2005 08:06 AM

well its interesting to say the least.
i dont know if i like it or not, it is unique but i need some body shots

.........hey that works on two levels......
jefmcc 06-29-2005 09:17 AM

[QUOTE=Uncle Scotty][QUOTE=jefmcc]I hope all his work isn't this "good".




.....DO NOT knock fab'd work until you have done a good bit of it yourself.....I have fab'd stuff like the above and it 'aint easy......for a one off....I'd say it looks pretty damn good, by the pics[/QUOTE]

I'm not exactly knockin' it. I know it's hard work and I couldn't do it. I work at Sikorsky Aircraft and I know the guy here that does this type of work. I've seen him hand make multiple peices of the same part, all by hand, and each one is exact to the next, professional.

Hey, if the guy likes a shoddy part on his car, more power to him. Custom, one of a kind or not, it's still a busted part that looks home made; not something that was professionally fab'd.
Nipper77 06-29-2005 11:12 AM

I think it looks Awesome. Originallity is way underrated in this place. Especially when everyone in here wants to try something new but not many have the balls and would rather knock other people.
Great idea and great loook.

What's up with these pics though? more info.

[IMG]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/7.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.charlesmichaelllc.com/15.jpg[/IMG]
Rdrcr 06-29-2005 12:21 PM

Nipper 77,

That first pic is from my supercharged 03 miata. The same fabricator made the 3 inch custom intake for the miata. The car picked up 1.5 psi and 10.7whp, not bad for an intake. Some of you probably would like to know how much that cost me? It was $300.00, I hope, I did not pay too much?

The last pic is of my ACPT carbon fiber driveshaft.

I will post more pics today!

Mike
pezman04wrx 06-29-2005 01:38 PM

Cool miata ... Bet you'll get some people that love that ... There are a few miata fans meandering around ... $300 bucks for a custom intake seems like a pretty damn reasonable deal ... Looks good, and BTW nice welds ... :D ...

Noob attack ... Now, I can understand the gain of 11whp, that makes perfect sense ... Gaining 1.5psi though? ... How does a better intake flow make a better psi? ... I'm just unclear as to what happens to cause this ...
living4surf 06-29-2005 01:50 PM

that looks really good your friend did a great job.
francophile 06-29-2005 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=pezman04wrx]While I think it looks good, it is certainly unique to the rex world, but it does look just like a Monte Carlo fin[/QUOTE]
I can't believe you can say that. The Monte Carlo fin is an almost straight piece of plactic glued onto a trunk lid. This thing flows, curves, arcs and arches. Plus it is welded on and smoothed into the bodywork. BIG difference.

As for the price b*tches: if I could get that kind of custom work for only $300 more than a Mines carbon spoiler I'd be all over it.

From what I can tell it looks sleek. I can't wait to see shots of the whole car.
Rdrcr 06-29-2005 07:24 PM

More pics, you will probably have to use the zoom.

Again, none of these pictures are ideal. When I get a chance, I will round up others that have more pictures of better angles.

[url]www.charlesmichaelllc.com/23.jpg[/url]

[url]www.charlesmichaelllc.com/24.jpg[/url]

[url]www.charlesmichaelllc.com/25.jpg[/url]

[url]www.charlesmichaelllc.com/26.jpg[/url]

[url]www.charlesmichaelllc.com/27.jpg[/url]

Mike
Subaruist 06-29-2005 07:44 PM

:o hmm...umm...as long as you love it!!!
mindchatter 06-29-2005 09:59 PM

Why didn't you shave your lock while the rest of the work was being done??? :confused:
IronMonkeyL255 06-30-2005 01:43 AM

Now you need to get a low-key scoop, or go smooth with an RS hood and FMIC.

The understated spoiler sights the ginormous hood scoop, IMHO.
veightkiller 06-30-2005 01:46 AM

2g's for that piece!?!?!?! eh it look's nice but it's expensive
Rdrcr 06-30-2005 04:53 PM

Here are some more pictures:

[url]http://www.kingofimports.com/images/track%20day/2-sti-1.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.kingofimports.com/images/track%20day/white-sti-1.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.kingofimports.com/images/track%20day/2-sti-3.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.kingofimports.com/images/track%20day/track-day-3.jpg[/url]

I am still trying to find side shots? Maybe, I will have to take a couple new pics?

Mike
Ghost Rider 06-30-2005 05:09 PM

i would have preferred it to be straight across but props for being original
Bonefizz 06-30-2005 06:54 PM

Kudo's for originality.
wrxfactor 07-01-2005 12:02 AM

Definitely, I likey, but if I had $2k it would not go to that. However, I like it very much and if I was rolling in money, I would have something similar done.
Handsdown 07-01-2005 01:39 AM

looks like a manta ray.

i would have just gone wingless.
cperkins 07-01-2005 01:56 AM

Looks good, but expensive. I can think of many many things that I would buy for my '04 with that kinda money. You don't want me to list them all here though...
kwilson36 07-01-2005 10:51 AM

If your friend was smart he'd use the one he made you as a mold and reproduce much cheaper fiberglass or Carbon fiber versions. I'm thinking there would be a market for a cheaper thinner (Audi S4) type lip. He could even play with the mold to create different variations..e.g. v1, v2...etc. Not like the mines lips....thinner... kinda like what you have going on now. Create an adhesive version thats not perminetly attached with a larger flatter base for mounting to the truck. I know I'd buy one in a second if the price was around 200 bucks.

Thats the problem even with the mines lips... there still a little bulky looking... not sexy like this one has the potential to be. Plus the price even at 300 is still a little much.

It has promise..... but not for 2k.
deluxsti 07-01-2005 12:01 PM

the blue sti is proof that you need to lower your car
Rdrcr 07-01-2005 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=deluxsti]the blue sti is proof that you need to lower your car[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I know!

Mike
Rdrcr 07-01-2005 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=kwilson36]If your friend was smart he'd use the one he made you as a mold and reproduce much cheaper fiberglass or Carbon fiber versions. I'm thinking there would be a market for a cheaper thinner (Audi S4) type lip. He could even play with the mold to create different variations..e.g. v1, v2...etc. Not like the mines lips....thinner... kinda like what you have going on now. Create an adhesive version thats not perminetly attached with a larger flatter base for mounting to the truck. I know I'd buy one in a second if the price was around 200 bucks.

Thats the problem even with the mines lips... there still a little bulky looking... not sexy like this one has the potential to be. Plus the price even at 300 is still a little much.

It has promise..... but not for 2k.[/QUOTE]


This is true, many of the people that have seen the decklid in person agree with you and agree, that it is expensive. With an adhesive "bolt on" version you would lose the integrated look, but(in my opionion) would still look good. For most people, it would not matter because it would be cheaper and have a similar look.

Me personally, I would love to take this decklid and have it molded of carbon fiber, talk about expensive! :eek:

Mike
Lexington 07-02-2005 01:03 AM

for 2$ I'd rather buy a BMW spoiler, cut it where I need it to make that same shape, then have them smooth it over... then I'd scheel out 500$ to make my headlights... I love my headlights =)

(not too many WRX's have D2S's :D )
Sloman 07-02-2005 12:09 PM

I particularly like the creative sun visor you've installed in this shot!

[url]http://www.kingofimports.com/images...day/2-sti-1.jpg[/url]
sidewayz 07-02-2005 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=Rdrcr]This is correct!

$2,000 was the total cost of the project, well slightly more. ;)

Edit: Price breakdown:

Decklid $364.60
Torsen spring $31.55
Torsen spring $33.27
STi Emblem $29.20
Materials $268.13
Paint $450.00
Time/Labor $850.00

Total cost $2026.75

Mike[/QUOTE]
$450 for paint??? did he paint the back half of the car? if its just the spoiler then thats a MAX of $20 in paint.
NskGenakuDuckie 07-02-2005 02:55 PM

I think your "friend" really jacked you on this one. $450 to paint a trunk? $850 for labor? And on top of that the finished result is flawed? (one side is higher than other). Wow.... is all i can say. I wish I had a friend like you =)
Rdrcr 07-02-2005 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=sidewayz]$450 for paint??? did he paint the back half of the car? if its just the spoiler then thats a MAX of $20 in paint.[/QUOTE]

No, they had to paint the entire decklid.

Mike
tasq 07-02-2005 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=NskGenakuDuckie]I think your "friend" really jacked you on this one. $450 to paint a trunk? $850 for labor? And on top of that the finished result is flawed? (one side is higher than other). Wow.... is all i can say. I wish I had a friend like you =)[/QUOTE]


:lol:
engineerx 07-02-2005 04:19 PM

The spoiler looks great - and most importantly DIFFERENT from all others
What matters is that you had fun helping fabricate & design the spoiler and you get satisfaction from that

It's all relative - $2k to you maybe be equivalent to someone else spending $200 or a Billionaire spending $200k.

While you have no problem spending $2k on a one off piece others have no problem spending the same amount on suspension, body kits, turbos etc...
Yes some add more performance than others... but I always say you do what you want - it's your car and $$

It looks good, you had fun on the project, it's unique!
Peace!
fantomas 07-04-2005 09:07 PM

$29.20 for an sti emblem you didn't even use/need?

and i agree, you should have shaved off the key hole.

i like it even though it does remind me of a monte carlo/nascar spoiler, but i wouldn't put down $2k for that....
kwilson36 07-05-2005 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=Rdrcr]This is true, many of the people that have seen the decklid in person agree with you and agree, that it is expensive. With an adhesive "bolt on" version you would lose the integrated look, but(in my opionion) would still look good. For most people, it would not matter because it would be cheaper and have a similar look.

Me personally, I would love to take this decklid and have it molded of carbon fiber, talk about expensive! :eek:

Mike[/QUOTE]



Once you have the mold to reproduce it in any fashion is simple enough, the biggest expense would be creating the mold. Hell to lay the fiberglass and even paint it would be fairly inexpensive ... labor being the only real cost. Materials, other that carbon fiber, would be pretty cheap and carbon fiber can be done fairly inexpensivly now a days. The mark up that we see on aftermarket products that we see is outragious. Only the machine based items that require a high degree of skill are what drive the cost up in most cases.


Food for thought.


-K

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