| pio!pio! | 02-10-2005 07:32 PM |
Recommend me a good track seat! :D
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I like the lateral leg support of the Sparco Corsa, but my ass can't fit in it...I am more of an Evo2 size butt...but the Evo2 doesn't have as much lateral leg support.
Any suggestions for someone who fits in a Evo2 but wants more lateral leg support? I wanna be as snug as possible
Any suggestions for someone who fits in a Evo2 but wants more lateral leg support? I wanna be as snug as possible
| bjorn240 | 02-10-2005 07:35 PM |
Momo Acropolis is similar in depth to Sparco Corsa, so that might work.
I like the Recaro SPG Pro Racer, but you ain't gonna fit in it. It's coming in an XL width in April...
See ya, hippy!
- Christian
I like the Recaro SPG Pro Racer, but you ain't gonna fit in it. It's coming in an XL width in April...
See ya, hippy!
- Christian
| pio!pio! | 02-10-2005 08:01 PM |
*these here are child bearin hips!* LOL
I wish Sparco made a Corsa2 or something
I sat in a real nice Cobra seat..but those were a grand and out of my price range.
I wish Sparco made a Corsa2 or something
I sat in a real nice Cobra seat..but those were a grand and out of my price range.
| GQ | 02-11-2005 08:05 AM |
Corbeau FX-1 if $ is an isssue. It is also wide.
| digitalpimp | 02-11-2005 11:27 AM |
you should be able to find a cobra suzuka GT for well less than a grand. that's seems like it would do the job.
| CirrusWRX | 02-11-2005 12:41 PM |
[IMG]http://www.sparco-usa.com/prdImg/89.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=7]+[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://www.fitness-machines-exercise-equipment.com/treadmill.jpg[/IMG]
I keeed I keeed!!!
[SIZE=7]+[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://www.fitness-machines-exercise-equipment.com/treadmill.jpg[/IMG]
I keeed I keeed!!!
| GarySheehan | 02-11-2005 01:03 PM |
For a racecar or a streetcar?
Sparco Circuit or Recaro HANS will be my next race seat.
[img]http://store1.yimg.com/I/ltbmotorsport_1828_851712[/img]
[img]http://www.autometricsmotorsports.com/products/recaro/pro_racer_Hans.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Sparco Circuit or Recaro HANS will be my next race seat.
[img]http://store1.yimg.com/I/ltbmotorsport_1828_851712[/img]
[img]http://www.autometricsmotorsports.com/products/recaro/pro_racer_Hans.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| Scoobyslack1 | 02-11-2005 01:40 PM |
[QUOTE=GarySheehan]For a racecar or a streetcar?
Sparco Circuit or Recaro HANS will be my next race seat.
[img]http://store1.yimg.com/I/ltbmotorsport_1828_851712[/img]
[img]http://www.autometricsmotorsports.com/products/recaro/pro_racer_Hans.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url][/QUOTE]
thems is some nice seats there Gary, hope your sponsers are paying ;)
I have MOMO Start seats in my 'street' car, I like them, but not good for long drives. They have high sides on the seats for your legs, but aren't very wide (I'm skinny). :p
Sparco Circuit or Recaro HANS will be my next race seat.
[img]http://store1.yimg.com/I/ltbmotorsport_1828_851712[/img]
[img]http://www.autometricsmotorsports.com/products/recaro/pro_racer_Hans.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url][/QUOTE]
thems is some nice seats there Gary, hope your sponsers are paying ;)
I have MOMO Start seats in my 'street' car, I like them, but not good for long drives. They have high sides on the seats for your legs, but aren't very wide (I'm skinny). :p
| pio!pio! | 02-11-2005 04:46 PM |
I like the circuits too except they are too narrow for my frame
| pio!pio! | 02-11-2005 04:54 PM |
[QUOTE=CirrusWRX][IMG]http://www.sparco-usa.com/prdImg/89.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=7]+[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://www.fitness-machines-exercise-equipment.com/treadmill.jpg[/IMG]
I keeed I keeed!!![/QUOTE]
that was my first inclination too!!!
except the treadmill does't reduce hip bone width!! stupid bones!!
[SIZE=7]+[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://www.fitness-machines-exercise-equipment.com/treadmill.jpg[/IMG]
I keeed I keeed!!![/QUOTE]
that was my first inclination too!!!
except the treadmill does't reduce hip bone width!! stupid bones!!
| pio!pio! | 02-11-2005 04:55 PM |
maybe a pro2000 and remove the seat cushions......
| MyScoobie28 | 02-11-2005 05:07 PM |
damn gary, those are some sweet racing seats.
| GarySheehan | 02-11-2005 06:23 PM |
The money is not much of an object when it comes to safety. Having been in a couple of big crashes, I've come to really respect the importance of safety equipment.
My HANS device "saved my neck" in [URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]THIS[/URL] crash.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/hans.jpg[/img]
My HANS device "saved my neck" in [URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]THIS[/URL] crash.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/hans.jpg[/img]
| cooleyjb | 02-11-2005 06:38 PM |
2 things
One thing most people overlook is that the seat is 50% of your restraint system the other being the belt of course.
Second glad to see you walked away from the accident. It looked like a pretty big hit.
One thing most people overlook is that the seat is 50% of your restraint system the other being the belt of course.
Second glad to see you walked away from the accident. It looked like a pretty big hit.
| allstock | 02-12-2005 12:48 AM |
What you are referring to is side bolsters.
Cobra makes pretty nice seats too. FIA also.
Cobra makes pretty nice seats too. FIA also.
| pio!pio! | 02-12-2005 02:12 AM |
I googled for Cobra's website but couldn't find it...The thing is I have a Sparco set of seats in right now just as street seats, and I just wanted to change out the driver's side ... but I would still like them to match (ie Sparco red w/ Sparco logo)...but Sparco is made for midget Italian's :(
| HoRo1 | 02-12-2005 11:52 PM |
I like the Cobra Suzuka, but I'm 6' 2" and 200lbs, so as to fit for you - ?
BTW that's 200lbs RIPPED!
BTW that's 200lbs RIPPED!
| AdamSTi | 02-13-2005 08:42 AM |
I have the pro2000 and love it. Have drivin in it for hours and its fine. Just getting in and out of the thing is a b***h.
Adam
Adam
| DILLIGAF Racing | 02-13-2005 08:17 PM |
My friend has the Sparco Circuit in his car, its a nice seat.
| pio!pio! | 02-14-2005 03:32 PM |
[QUOTE=HoRo1]I like the Cobra Suzuka, but I'm 6' 2" and 200lbs, so as to fit for you - ?
BTW that's 200lbs RIPPED![/QUOTE]
I'm 6'2" and 215..i'm meatiest in the stomach and thighs :P + I have large hip bones...so yeah...maybe I will fit
BTW that's 200lbs RIPPED![/QUOTE]
I'm 6'2" and 215..i'm meatiest in the stomach and thighs :P + I have large hip bones...so yeah...maybe I will fit
| dowroa | 02-14-2005 09:47 PM |
[QUOTE=GarySheehan]The money is not much of an object when it comes to safety. Having been in a couple of big crashes, I've come to really respect the importance of safety equipment.
My HANS device "saved my neck" in [URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]THIS[/URL] crash.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/hans.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Well, if you hadn't tried to take him off the road where your S4 could leverage its AWD advantage, it might not have happened ;) (j/k).
Speaking of HANS, have you found it too restrictive in terms of head movement? While I have had no direct interaction with such saftey measures yet, it seems VERY movement restrictive and would be a pain-in-the-shoulders.
Given, all saftey equipement is worth it though. :)
- dow
My HANS device "saved my neck" in [URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]THIS[/URL] crash.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/hans.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Well, if you hadn't tried to take him off the road where your S4 could leverage its AWD advantage, it might not have happened ;) (j/k).
Speaking of HANS, have you found it too restrictive in terms of head movement? While I have had no direct interaction with such saftey measures yet, it seems VERY movement restrictive and would be a pain-in-the-shoulders.
Given, all saftey equipement is worth it though. :)
- dow
| KoneKiller | 02-15-2005 10:41 AM |
HANS restricts head rotation a fair bit. I don't like that about it, but I sure appreciate what it will do for me in case of a frontal or angled frontal impact. You learn to turn your head until the straps restrain you and then swivel your eyes in their sockets. Good mirrors help, but it's the time when you are returning to the track after an off that is difficult. You have to rely on the corner workers more, use your mirrors as best you can or square up to the track a bit to see oncoming traffic.
Gary, what length are you running your straps at?
Gary, what length are you running your straps at?
| GarySheehan | 02-19-2005 09:41 PM |
My tether length is 7" which is the max tether length for the device.
Just an FYI on the Sparco Circuit. I just brought my new seat home today. It is a tight fit. I've got pretty skinny hips and a narrow frame (5' 8", 155 lbs) and this seat is snug! Especially in the hips and lats.
I was so concerned in the showroom that I asked if I could try on a 3 layer suit instead of my jeans and t-shirt. This seat just barely fits me.
This seat should work very well with the HANS device. To complete the package, I also picked up a set of Schroth Profi II 6H belts. This is a HANS specific 6 point harness. Narrow belt over the HANS device and 3" webbing below the HANS.
Good stuff!
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Just an FYI on the Sparco Circuit. I just brought my new seat home today. It is a tight fit. I've got pretty skinny hips and a narrow frame (5' 8", 155 lbs) and this seat is snug! Especially in the hips and lats.
I was so concerned in the showroom that I asked if I could try on a 3 layer suit instead of my jeans and t-shirt. This seat just barely fits me.
This seat should work very well with the HANS device. To complete the package, I also picked up a set of Schroth Profi II 6H belts. This is a HANS specific 6 point harness. Narrow belt over the HANS device and 3" webbing below the HANS.
Good stuff!
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| KoneKiller | 02-20-2005 02:09 AM |
Gary,
Talk to me about the narrow belts over the HANS... I'm using the usual 3" impact belts... should I be updating my tiedowns?
Talk to me about the narrow belts over the HANS... I'm using the usual 3" impact belts... should I be updating my tiedowns?
| MNbiker | 02-20-2005 03:26 AM |
[QUOTE=digitalpimp]you should be able to find a cobra suzuka GT for well less than a grand. that's seems like it would do the job.[/QUOTE]
I'd also recommend the Suzuka GT. Cobra builds excellent quality FIA-approved seats. The Suzuka design has the tall side bolsters you're after, and the GT version should give you JUST enough width.
Here's the website:
[url="http://www.cobraseats.com/item.asp?pg=MS&id=SUZ"]http://www.cobraseats.com/item.asp?pg=MS&id=SUZ[/url]
-Steve
I'd also recommend the Suzuka GT. Cobra builds excellent quality FIA-approved seats. The Suzuka design has the tall side bolsters you're after, and the GT version should give you JUST enough width.
Here's the website:
[url="http://www.cobraseats.com/item.asp?pg=MS&id=SUZ"]http://www.cobraseats.com/item.asp?pg=MS&id=SUZ[/url]
-Steve
| GarySheehan | 02-20-2005 05:39 AM |
[QUOTE=KoneKiller]Gary,
Talk to me about the narrow belts over the HANS... I'm using the usual 3" impact belts... should I be updating my tiedowns?[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily. The HANS belt is a 2" wide over the HANS device, so there is no overhang and much more force is directly put on the HANS, which holds the device better and prevents slippage. Below the HANS it widens to 3". You can't use these belts without a HANS device.
You can see it here...
[url]http://www.schroth.com/produkte/racing/products/profi_II_6_H.htm[/url]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Talk to me about the narrow belts over the HANS... I'm using the usual 3" impact belts... should I be updating my tiedowns?[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily. The HANS belt is a 2" wide over the HANS device, so there is no overhang and much more force is directly put on the HANS, which holds the device better and prevents slippage. Below the HANS it widens to 3". You can't use these belts without a HANS device.
You can see it here...
[url]http://www.schroth.com/produkte/racing/products/profi_II_6_H.htm[/url]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| MaxSTi05 | 12-13-2008 06:48 PM |
Sparco Corsa leg bolsters are nice and tall for max support! That's what I'm getting. Snug fit, though, and I'm only a 33-34 waist. I would think this seat will be a pain for street use, definitely track only.
| Ralliart4 | 12-13-2008 07:14 PM |
I had a sparco pista in my drift car and im a XL guy. It fit nice and had lots of leg support and comfortable enough to drive several hours back and forth from texas.
Im not sure if they even make it anymore though.
Im not sure if they even make it anymore though.
| mav1c | 12-14-2008 12:42 PM |
I have Sparco Evo's now and they are a tight fit, but comfortable. I am moving to a seat with head restraints and am probably getting the Racetech RT 4009 HR.
[img]http://www.racetechseatsna.com/images/4009hr.jpg[/img]
I sat in the Racetech along with the Sparco Circuit, Circuit Pro, and Circuit Pro ADV. The Circuit was just too tight. I was too tall for the Circuit Pro. My shoulders hit the bottom of the head protection extensions. The Circuit Pro ADV was too wide. The Racetech was pretty snug, but was the most comfortable. One thing I really liked was the longer seat base. The Evo I have now has a pretty short seat base in comparison. I'd really like to try the Recaro Hans, but no shop around here carries it and there's no way I'd buy it without sitting in it first. The only thing I don't like about the Racetech is the small opening for the shoulder straps. I was low enough that it lined up above the shoulders...barely, but I'd like a little more room. Oh, and if anyone wants a Sparco Evo, with sliders and mounts, I'll be selling it soon. :)
[img]http://www.racetechseatsna.com/images/4009hr.jpg[/img]
I sat in the Racetech along with the Sparco Circuit, Circuit Pro, and Circuit Pro ADV. The Circuit was just too tight. I was too tall for the Circuit Pro. My shoulders hit the bottom of the head protection extensions. The Circuit Pro ADV was too wide. The Racetech was pretty snug, but was the most comfortable. One thing I really liked was the longer seat base. The Evo I have now has a pretty short seat base in comparison. I'd really like to try the Recaro Hans, but no shop around here carries it and there's no way I'd buy it without sitting in it first. The only thing I don't like about the Racetech is the small opening for the shoulder straps. I was low enough that it lined up above the shoulders...barely, but I'd like a little more room. Oh, and if anyone wants a Sparco Evo, with sliders and mounts, I'll be selling it soon. :)
| dunk | 12-14-2008 08:45 PM |
Tim,
How tall are you?
Duncan
How tall are you?
Duncan
| mav1c | 12-15-2008 08:42 AM |
I'm 6' 1" and ~200 lbs.
| elirentz | 12-15-2008 09:26 AM |
^Having sat in the EVO's and being close to the same size as me (i'm 6-3 ~200 lbs) would you recomend the EVO's or EVO 2's? I don't think there's anywhere close to me to try these out and I need a seat that allows my 5th point by next season.
| boost junkie | 12-15-2008 09:59 AM |
[QUOTE=elirentz;24835318]^Having sat in the EVO's and being close to the same size as me (i'm 6-3 ~200 lbs) would you recomend the EVO's or EVO 2's? I don't think there's anywhere close to me to try these out and I need a seat that allows my 5th point by next season.[/QUOTE]
What's your waist size? If it's a 34 or smaller, I'd guess the regular Evo is a better fit. But it's hard to tell without sitting in one, I'd have a hard time buying a seat without trying it out first.
What's your waist size? If it's a 34 or smaller, I'd guess the regular Evo is a better fit. But it's hard to tell without sitting in one, I'd have a hard time buying a seat without trying it out first.
| elirentz | 12-15-2008 10:21 AM |
Yeah that's how I'm starting to feel. I guess I'm going to have to figure out where's the closest and take a road trip.
I'm right on the cusp of 34 waist size right now I'm a little over but when I'm training (martial arts) I'm a little bit less. The main thing that I'm worried about is whether or not the reg EVO will have the shoulder straps high enough for me.
I'm right on the cusp of 34 waist size right now I'm a little over but when I'm training (martial arts) I'm a little bit less. The main thing that I'm worried about is whether or not the reg EVO will have the shoulder straps high enough for me.
| mav1c | 12-15-2008 11:07 AM |
I have a 34 waist and it's definitely snug, but that's a good thing IMO. I don't remember, are the shoulder strap holes higher on the Evo 2? If so, you may have to go with that. The shoulder strap holes are just high enough for me in the Evo. Maybe 1/2" to spare.
| dunk | 12-15-2008 11:28 AM |
[QUOTE=mav1c;24836231]I have a 34 waist and it's definitely snug, but that's a good thing IMO. I don't remember, are the shoulder strap holes higher on the Evo 2? If so, you may have to go with that. The shoulder strap holes are just high enough for me in the Evo. Maybe 1/2 to spare.[/QUOTE]
I'm 5'11". How far off were the shoulder straps in the Circuit Pro? Trying to figure out if it's worth the drive to try it out.
thanks,
Duncan
I'm 5'11". How far off were the shoulder straps in the Circuit Pro? Trying to figure out if it's worth the drive to try it out.
thanks,
Duncan
| mav1c | 12-15-2008 01:33 PM |
[QUOTE=dunk;24836490]I'm 5'11". How far off were the shoulder straps in the Circuit Pro? Trying to figure out if it's worth the drive to try it out.
thanks,
Duncan[/QUOTE]
I don't think the problem with the Circuit Pro was the shoulder straps, it was the design of the head protection. My shoulders hit the bottom where it starts to extend out as you move up the seat. It really kept me from sitting back in the seat comfortably. For you, it might be OK.
This is where my shoulders hit:
[IMG]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc241/liquidsti/Car_Pics/sparcocircuitpro-arrows-1.jpg[/IMG]
thanks,
Duncan[/QUOTE]
I don't think the problem with the Circuit Pro was the shoulder straps, it was the design of the head protection. My shoulders hit the bottom where it starts to extend out as you move up the seat. It really kept me from sitting back in the seat comfortably. For you, it might be OK.
This is where my shoulders hit:
[IMG]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc241/liquidsti/Car_Pics/sparcocircuitpro-arrows-1.jpg[/IMG]
| elirentz | 12-15-2008 02:20 PM |
wow that's a weird design.
Where do you guys in Va go to look at seats?
Where do you guys in Va go to look at seats?
| cooleyjb | 12-15-2008 02:35 PM |
Og racing and CDOC are teh 2 big virginia places.
The smartest place to go check out seats is at a large race. Most people will have no problem with a person checking out a seat and you aren't limited by the couple of brands a store carries.
The smartest place to go check out seats is at a large race. Most people will have no problem with a person checking out a seat and you aren't limited by the couple of brands a store carries.
| mav1c | 12-15-2008 04:33 PM |
[QUOTE=cooleyjb;24839169]Og racing and CDOC are teh 2 big virginia places.
The smartest place to go check out seats is at a large race. Most people will have no problem with a person checking out a seat and you aren't limited by the couple of brands a store carries.[/QUOTE]
Where the heck is CDOC? Isn't it out past Fredericksburg somewhere?
The smartest place to go check out seats is at a large race. Most people will have no problem with a person checking out a seat and you aren't limited by the couple of brands a store carries.[/QUOTE]
Where the heck is CDOC? Isn't it out past Fredericksburg somewhere?
| elirentz | 12-15-2008 04:47 PM |
[QUOTE=cooleyjb;24839169]
The smartest place to go check out seats is at a large race. Most people will have no problem with a person checking out a seat and you aren't limited by the couple of brands a store carries.[/QUOTE]
True, and that way I don't feel somewhat obligated to get the seat from where I try it out and I can shop around a little. I'm just not sure there's a race close enough by next season to go to.
The smartest place to go check out seats is at a large race. Most people will have no problem with a person checking out a seat and you aren't limited by the couple of brands a store carries.[/QUOTE]
True, and that way I don't feel somewhat obligated to get the seat from where I try it out and I can shop around a little. I'm just not sure there's a race close enough by next season to go to.
| boost junkie | 12-15-2008 04:56 PM |
Post in your local forum and see if anyone has any of the seats you're looking at. I know I've had people come by once or twice to sit in my seats.
| sachilles | 12-15-2008 05:38 PM |
If they are metal framed, just bend them to fit. It's easier to bend one to make it smaller, but you can make one wider.
To make on smaller, you just use a ratchet strap and tighten it. To make them wider, you use a bottle jack as a spreader.
To make on smaller, you just use a ratchet strap and tighten it. To make them wider, you use a bottle jack as a spreader.
| cooleyjb | 12-15-2008 05:42 PM |
[QUOTE=mav1c;24841078]Where the heck is CDOC? Isn't it out past Fredericksburg somewhere?[/QUOTE]
It's about an hour from VIR so I doubt it's super close to you.
I have some Racetech seats in regular and wide version here in Durham if anyone needs to try some out.
It's about an hour from VIR so I doubt it's super close to you.
I have some Racetech seats in regular and wide version here in Durham if anyone needs to try some out.
| cooleyjb | 12-15-2008 05:43 PM |
[QUOTE=sachilles;24842015]If they are metal framed, just bend them to fit. It's easier to bend one to make it smaller, but you can make one wider.
To make on smaller, you just use a ratchet strap and tighten it. To make them wider, you use a bottle jack as a spreader.[/QUOTE]
If you think about this, why would you want to use a seat that you could do this to.
To make on smaller, you just use a ratchet strap and tighten it. To make them wider, you use a bottle jack as a spreader.[/QUOTE]
If you think about this, why would you want to use a seat that you could do this to.
| cooleyjb | 12-15-2008 05:45 PM |
[QUOTE=elirentz;24841244]True, and that way I don't feel somewhat obligated to get the seat from where I try it out and I can shop around a little. I'm just not sure there's a race close enough by next season to go to.[/QUOTE]
Charlotte has some stores but most of them live in the world of Butler, Ultrashield, Kirkey and LaJoie.
Charlotte has some stores but most of them live in the world of Butler, Ultrashield, Kirkey and LaJoie.
| dunk | 12-15-2008 06:46 PM |
[QUOTE=cooleyjb;24842081]If you think about this, why would you want to use a seat that you could do this to.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying you know of a seat that could withstand a bottle jack?
I'd like to see that seat.
Are you saying you know of a seat that could withstand a bottle jack?
I'd like to see that seat.
| cooleyjb | 12-15-2008 07:09 PM |
[QUOTE=dunk;24842859]Are you saying you know of a seat that could withstand a bottle jack?
I'd like to see that seat.[/QUOTE]
You don't get it.
Metal seats can deform in a crash. Any of the ones you can easily deform wtih a bottle jack are ones that I would never race it. I want a seat to cushion an impact and hold me in place.
A 200 pound body in a 40G hit is 8000 pounds. That will bend most of those metal seats.
Have you ever wondered why there are no FIA approved metal seats?
Have you wondered why the whiz bang seats in NASCAR are carbon fiber or are extremely stout seats like LaJoie and then a thick custom insert designed to cushion an impact.
I'd like to see that seat.[/QUOTE]
You don't get it.
Metal seats can deform in a crash. Any of the ones you can easily deform wtih a bottle jack are ones that I would never race it. I want a seat to cushion an impact and hold me in place.
A 200 pound body in a 40G hit is 8000 pounds. That will bend most of those metal seats.
Have you ever wondered why there are no FIA approved metal seats?
Have you wondered why the whiz bang seats in NASCAR are carbon fiber or are extremely stout seats like LaJoie and then a thick custom insert designed to cushion an impact.
| dunk | 12-15-2008 07:27 PM |
[QUOTE=cooleyjb;24843182]You don't get it.
Metal seats can deform in a crash. Any of the ones you can easily deform wtih a bottle jack are ones that I would never race it. I want a seat to cushion an impact and hold me in place.
A 200 pound body in a 40G hit is 8000 pounds. That will bend most of those metal seats.
Have you ever wondered why there are no FIA approved metal seats?
Have you wondered why the whiz bang seats in NASCAR are carbon fiber or are extremely stout seats like LaJoie and then a thick custom insert designed to cushion an impact.[/QUOTE]
I do get it.
Even a small bottle jack will product 6 tons of force, or about 12,000 pounds. I was just trying to point out (with a bit of humor) it's probably not a good benchmark to judge seat construction.
-Duncan
Metal seats can deform in a crash. Any of the ones you can easily deform wtih a bottle jack are ones that I would never race it. I want a seat to cushion an impact and hold me in place.
A 200 pound body in a 40G hit is 8000 pounds. That will bend most of those metal seats.
Have you ever wondered why there are no FIA approved metal seats?
Have you wondered why the whiz bang seats in NASCAR are carbon fiber or are extremely stout seats like LaJoie and then a thick custom insert designed to cushion an impact.[/QUOTE]
I do get it.
Even a small bottle jack will product 6 tons of force, or about 12,000 pounds. I was just trying to point out (with a bit of humor) it's probably not a good benchmark to judge seat construction.
-Duncan
| cooleyjb | 12-15-2008 07:59 PM |
[QUOTE=dunk;24843446]I do get it.
Even a small bottle jack will product 6 tons of force, or about 12,000 pounds. I was just trying to point out (with a bit of humor) it's probably not a good benchmark to judge seat construction.
-Duncan[/QUOTE]
Ahh but I'm gonna bet that you aren't using the bottle jack anywhere near it's potential. Being able to easily and permanently bend the seat is not a good thing.
One has to realize that there is a difference in teh styles of deformation when comparing composite vs. metal seats.
Even a small bottle jack will product 6 tons of force, or about 12,000 pounds. I was just trying to point out (with a bit of humor) it's probably not a good benchmark to judge seat construction.
-Duncan[/QUOTE]
Ahh but I'm gonna bet that you aren't using the bottle jack anywhere near it's potential. Being able to easily and permanently bend the seat is not a good thing.
One has to realize that there is a difference in teh styles of deformation when comparing composite vs. metal seats.
| sachilles | 12-15-2008 09:40 PM |
Your choice, but you do realize you bend and deform the tubing you use to make your roll cage. There are also seats on the market specifically designed to be molded in the way I describe. I'm not suggesting you expand the thing by 10 inches...just enough to make it comfy. I'm guessing half an inch to an inch would do it. It is your neck on the line, so If you don't like it, don't do it.
It is just that on occasion a minor adjustment can make a world of difference.
It is just that on occasion a minor adjustment can make a world of difference.
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