| SuperKool | 04-25-2006 02:01 PM |
Redline Time Attack and Pikes Peak Hill Climb Team-Up!
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Just thought I'd share this new event with you guys. After all, it's a rally.....
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THE TOYO TIRES REDLINE TIME ATTACK PRESENTED BY HAWK PERFORMANCE BRAKE PADS RACES TO THE CLOUDS AT THE PIKES PEAK INTERNATIONAL HILL CLIMB
Pikes Peak, Colorado, 04/25/2006 - The Toyo Tires REDLINE TIME ATTACK presented by Hawk Performance Brake pads will once again make history in an unprecedented time trial event that will test driver and car alike, with the first ever REDLINE TIME ATTACK at Pike's Peak! Joining forces with the Pike's Peak International Hill Climb, come July 1, 2006, Redline promises to bring the best in time trial action to the Peak's 2.8 mile paved section, in the first point-to-point tarmac-rally-style battle in REDLINE TIME ATTACK's traditionally race-circuit-based time trial series.
No race event in the world presents the unique challenges facing competitors at the Pike's Peak International Hill Climb. Since 1916, this historical event has been soaring over 4000 feet in altitude to the 14,100 foot summit and finish line, placing incredible demands not only on the vehicle, but also on the driver's ability to stay alert and focused despite breathing air thin enough to make seasoned mountain climbers cringe.
Normally reserved for specially prepared cars built to handle the mixed tarmac and gravel surfaces of Pike's Peak, the REDLINE TIME ATTACK will utilize the 2.8 mile paved section of the hill in order to allow competitors to use their street and circuit prepared machines to get a taste of high-altitude excitement. Only 24 slots are available in this unprecedented tarmac rally event, with eight cars being allowed in each drive-train configuration (front-wheel-drive, rear-wheel-drive, all-wheel-drive), so sign up as soon as possible to ensure your position in the roster.
As with all REDLINE TIME ATTACK events, spectators are invited to come watch the intense motorsports action as the fiercest time trial machines and drivers race to the clouds on July 1, 2006 at the Pike's Peak International Hill Climb!
To register for competition in the Toyo Tires Redline Time Attack presented by Hawk Performance Brake Pads, or for more information, visit Redline on the web at [url]http://www.redlinetimeattack.com[/url] . For event sponsorship information or general questions please e-mail Chris Willard at [email][email�protected][/email]
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THE TOYO TIRES REDLINE TIME ATTACK PRESENTED BY HAWK PERFORMANCE BRAKE PADS RACES TO THE CLOUDS AT THE PIKES PEAK INTERNATIONAL HILL CLIMB
Pikes Peak, Colorado, 04/25/2006 - The Toyo Tires REDLINE TIME ATTACK presented by Hawk Performance Brake pads will once again make history in an unprecedented time trial event that will test driver and car alike, with the first ever REDLINE TIME ATTACK at Pike's Peak! Joining forces with the Pike's Peak International Hill Climb, come July 1, 2006, Redline promises to bring the best in time trial action to the Peak's 2.8 mile paved section, in the first point-to-point tarmac-rally-style battle in REDLINE TIME ATTACK's traditionally race-circuit-based time trial series.
No race event in the world presents the unique challenges facing competitors at the Pike's Peak International Hill Climb. Since 1916, this historical event has been soaring over 4000 feet in altitude to the 14,100 foot summit and finish line, placing incredible demands not only on the vehicle, but also on the driver's ability to stay alert and focused despite breathing air thin enough to make seasoned mountain climbers cringe.
Normally reserved for specially prepared cars built to handle the mixed tarmac and gravel surfaces of Pike's Peak, the REDLINE TIME ATTACK will utilize the 2.8 mile paved section of the hill in order to allow competitors to use their street and circuit prepared machines to get a taste of high-altitude excitement. Only 24 slots are available in this unprecedented tarmac rally event, with eight cars being allowed in each drive-train configuration (front-wheel-drive, rear-wheel-drive, all-wheel-drive), so sign up as soon as possible to ensure your position in the roster.
As with all REDLINE TIME ATTACK events, spectators are invited to come watch the intense motorsports action as the fiercest time trial machines and drivers race to the clouds on July 1, 2006 at the Pike's Peak International Hill Climb!
To register for competition in the Toyo Tires Redline Time Attack presented by Hawk Performance Brake Pads, or for more information, visit Redline on the web at [url]http://www.redlinetimeattack.com[/url] . For event sponsorship information or general questions please e-mail Chris Willard at [email][email�protected][/email]
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| greg donovan | 04-25-2006 02:18 PM |
i am so glad that time attack is gaining in popularity here.
this sounds more interesting than drifting to me. makes more sense too. i get the appeal of drifitng but i dont get the judging.
anyway, this is pretty cool news.
this sounds more interesting than drifting to me. makes more sense too. i get the appeal of drifitng but i dont get the judging.
anyway, this is pretty cool news.
| SuperKool | 04-25-2006 02:31 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]i am so glad that time attack is gaining in popularity here.
this sounds more interesting than drifting to me. makes more sense too. i get the appeal of drifitng but i dont get the judging.
anyway, this is pretty cool news.[/QUOTE]
Me too. I also like drifting, but it's all very subjective. It's cool to see, but without a start and finish, or at least a "fastest" time, who can really say what drivers is better then the other.
this sounds more interesting than drifting to me. makes more sense too. i get the appeal of drifitng but i dont get the judging.
anyway, this is pretty cool news.[/QUOTE]
Me too. I also like drifting, but it's all very subjective. It's cool to see, but without a start and finish, or at least a "fastest" time, who can really say what drivers is better then the other.
| greg donovan | 04-25-2006 02:47 PM |
[QUOTE=SuperKool]Me too. I also like drifting, but it's all very subjective. It's cool to see, but without a start and finish, or at least a "fastest" time, who can really say what drivers is better then the other.[/QUOTE]
that is what makes time attack so cool.
in japan they also have events that appear to be a combination of drifitng and autox called gymkhana.
i would also love to see dirt trials events here in the states too. like rally cross is here but A LOT faster (80-100mph in the long straights) and only allows prepped and caged cars.
that is what makes time attack so cool.
in japan they also have events that appear to be a combination of drifitng and autox called gymkhana.
i would also love to see dirt trials events here in the states too. like rally cross is here but A LOT faster (80-100mph in the long straights) and only allows prepped and caged cars.
| WRXedUSA | 04-25-2006 04:27 PM |
Well that's good to hear that PPIHC found help to fill some of the time during the day.
With R-A entries out, cars I think will be scarce out there in July.
The time attack was fun to watch last year, the Falken drift team was cool too, but I don't think they got the high-altitude tune down in thier cars though given the amount of blown up cars.
Speaking, no mention of Falken being the title sponsor, any word on that? Or is that conflicting with Toyo and the Redline Time Attack series.
With R-A entries out, cars I think will be scarce out there in July.
The time attack was fun to watch last year, the Falken drift team was cool too, but I don't think they got the high-altitude tune down in thier cars though given the amount of blown up cars.
Speaking, no mention of Falken being the title sponsor, any word on that? Or is that conflicting with Toyo and the Redline Time Attack series.
| cnstman | 04-26-2006 12:28 AM |
i remember hearing on the local news that falken had signed up to be the 2006 title sponser but i can't find anything on the web to support that.
not having rally cars this year will suck, but the race has survived for 84 runnings, i think rally cars only raced 5 years. it will still be a fun day on the mountain!
not having rally cars this year will suck, but the race has survived for 84 runnings, i think rally cars only raced 5 years. it will still be a fun day on the mountain!
| Todd TCE | 04-26-2006 12:43 PM |
There's no mention of Falken being back this year.
And as a competitor (and supplier to Brent's brakes last year- gotta get in a plug) I'm disappointed to (again?) read info on the event somewhere other than the races home page.
I've jumped up and down, yelled and screamed to the point of being ignored I guess. Now is the time the press releases should be flying about such info above as well as other thing; who's coming back and why, when testing is, what the expected purse could be, links to competitors and bios...I could go on and on.
If you're local go down the office and ask them why you have to get your PPIHC news from other sources than the race itself. :confused:
And as a competitor (and supplier to Brent's brakes last year- gotta get in a plug) I'm disappointed to (again?) read info on the event somewhere other than the races home page.
I've jumped up and down, yelled and screamed to the point of being ignored I guess. Now is the time the press releases should be flying about such info above as well as other thing; who's coming back and why, when testing is, what the expected purse could be, links to competitors and bios...I could go on and on.
If you're local go down the office and ask them why you have to get your PPIHC news from other sources than the race itself. :confused:
| [email�protected] | 04-26-2006 02:18 PM |
I do not know if Falken will be back this year as Title Sponsor. I know there were last year... and it did come up in our meeting when I was in Colorado Springs last Thursday...
We have been contacting top tuners and race teams and we expect to put on a great show for everyone. I've called Crawford Performance, DynoComp, Cobb Tuning and plan to call others in the Subaru world... If you know of a team/company who would jump at the chance to be involved in this Redline Time Attack event, please pass our contact info on to them. We only have 8 spots open in the AWD category, and they will fill quickly!
Nikolas
We have been contacting top tuners and race teams and we expect to put on a great show for everyone. I've called Crawford Performance, DynoComp, Cobb Tuning and plan to call others in the Subaru world... If you know of a team/company who would jump at the chance to be involved in this Redline Time Attack event, please pass our contact info on to them. We only have 8 spots open in the AWD category, and they will fill quickly!
Nikolas
| turboICE | 04-26-2006 02:28 PM |
Who said you can't drift during your run?
Who else is going to register, fly into Colorado Springs and rent a Mustang?
Since this is rally style time attack are co-drivers permitted?
Who else is going to register, fly into Colorado Springs and rent a Mustang?
Since this is rally style time attack are co-drivers permitted?
| [email�protected] | 04-26-2006 04:01 PM |
It might be a "rally style" only due to the fact that we are on a mountain road, and not on a road course. But this is definitely a time attack, and true to that, no passengers are allowed, nor would it be beneficial to the efforts of the driver (150-200lbs extra at 9000ft.... uhhhh that isnt good)
We are already receiving emails and phone calls from companies and drivers who wish to register for the event. I expect this event to fill up in a couple of weeks once we open registration.
We are already receiving emails and phone calls from companies and drivers who wish to register for the event. I expect this event to fill up in a couple of weeks once we open registration.
| WRXedUSA | 04-26-2006 04:02 PM |
[QUOTE=turboICE]Who said you can't drift during your run?
Who else is going to register, fly into Colorado Springs and rent a Mustang?
Since this is rally style time attack are co-drivers permitted?[/QUOTE]
If it was anything like last year, it will be from the start line to the end of the Picnic Grounds, which would make up about the 2.8 miles as advertised.
It's a single driver, one timed run up, one down.
[IMG]http://www.ppihc.com/img/coursemap.gif[/IMG]
Who else is going to register, fly into Colorado Springs and rent a Mustang?
Since this is rally style time attack are co-drivers permitted?[/QUOTE]
If it was anything like last year, it will be from the start line to the end of the Picnic Grounds, which would make up about the 2.8 miles as advertised.
It's a single driver, one timed run up, one down.
[IMG]http://www.ppihc.com/img/coursemap.gif[/IMG]
| Jtree | 04-26-2006 06:03 PM |
so time attack is basically a hill climb/sprint? is it jdm to call it "time attack"? even better... T.R.F.K.A.H.C.
| bjorn240 | 04-26-2006 06:31 PM |
Near as I can tell, "Time Attack" is Japanese for "Track Day" or "Time Trial." Kind of like how "Freestyle" is Swedish for "Walkman."
And no co-driver? Seems more togue to me, than rally!
And no co-driver? Seems more togue to me, than rally!
| STi-MAN | 04-26-2006 06:34 PM |
"Time Attack" just sounds cooler then "Time Trial"
| Todd TCE | 04-26-2006 07:35 PM |
While it's a hill climb of sorts the elevation change here is quite minimal compared to that past the picnic ground. It's a steady elevation climb probably closer to 500-700ft.
It's more of a road rally/road course with the steepest grade area is less than Laguna or Sears for example.
It's more of a road rally/road course with the steepest grade area is less than Laguna or Sears for example.
| [email�protected] | 04-27-2006 10:23 AM |
Unlike last years "time attack" staged by Falken Tire, our competitors will get two truns UP the course, not one run UP and one run DOWN. The term Time Attack does have it's roots in Japan...the equivalent in America or Europe would be Time Trial. :-) Normally time attacks are run on road courses/circuits, not mountain roads... but with the popularity of time attacks increasing, and the industry widely considering time attack to be "the next big thing" following the drifting phenomenon, events like Pikes Peak want to start capturing that market.....
| [email�protected] | 04-27-2006 10:27 AM |
Also,
David Buschur of Buschur Racing (big Mitsubishi 4G63 supporter, and longtime drag racer) signed up for Unlimited AWD. I guess they just ran a 1:37.xxx at Mid Ohio (with the chicane) on the cars first weekend at a track. They are excited about their chances of taking the crown at the BeaveRun Redline Time Attack event as the fastest car of the day.
Hopefully we'll see some Subaru teams/drivers show up and try to prevent David and an EVO running away with the title! :-)
David Buschur of Buschur Racing (big Mitsubishi 4G63 supporter, and longtime drag racer) signed up for Unlimited AWD. I guess they just ran a 1:37.xxx at Mid Ohio (with the chicane) on the cars first weekend at a track. They are excited about their chances of taking the crown at the BeaveRun Redline Time Attack event as the fastest car of the day.
Hopefully we'll see some Subaru teams/drivers show up and try to prevent David and an EVO running away with the title! :-)
| turboICE | 04-27-2006 10:41 AM |
Then it is a matter of marketing. Whether you call it Solo I, Time Trials or Hill Climbs they have been around the US for decades now in both circuit and point to point forms. Increased events and alternatives is always good to see.
I always attend PPIHC at the Playground so I don't know how people spectate below the tree line - but I hope for the sake of keeping this type of activity around at the "club" type level that there aren't a lot of people hanging around track out with potentially novice and amateur drivers turning in early on a blind apex. (Not that pros haven't been known to do the same thing.)
I always attend PPIHC at the Playground so I don't know how people spectate below the tree line - but I hope for the sake of keeping this type of activity around at the "club" type level that there aren't a lot of people hanging around track out with potentially novice and amateur drivers turning in early on a blind apex. (Not that pros haven't been known to do the same thing.)
| WRXedUSA | 04-27-2006 11:02 AM |
Has anyone told any Subaru shops of this?
| [email�protected] | 04-27-2006 12:21 PM |
WRXedUSA,
Of the Pikes Peak event? I have told DynoComp, KingPin, Cobb Tuning, and Crawford Performance to name a few.
TurboICE...
that is true about potential offs... I believe that the organizers of the hill climb have designated viewing areas on the lower portion of the course, that will minimize the risk of a vehicle striking a spectator if it were to go off course.
Of the Pikes Peak event? I have told DynoComp, KingPin, Cobb Tuning, and Crawford Performance to name a few.
TurboICE...
that is true about potential offs... I believe that the organizers of the hill climb have designated viewing areas on the lower portion of the course, that will minimize the risk of a vehicle striking a spectator if it were to go off course.
| turboICE | 04-27-2006 12:33 PM |
Yeah I just don't want the loss of any more motorsports due to spectator stupidity and tendency towards not accepting responsibility for thier own decisions and resorting to litigation in a society that gives away fortunes at the blink of eye as if inurance isn't a cost to the whole society.
| Todd TCE | 04-27-2006 03:08 PM |
[QUOTE=turboICE]
I always attend PPIHC at the Playground so I don't know how people spectate below the tree line - but I hope for the sake of keeping this type of activity around at the "club" type level that there aren't a lot of people hanging around track out with potentially novice and amateur drivers turning in early on a blind apex. (Not that pros haven't been known to do the same thing.)[/QUOTE]
We've been known to aim for your beer coolers as an apex marker...
Camping is now returning this year after five years. That will bring in some more folks I'm certain. Word is $100 per vehicle.
I always attend PPIHC at the Playground so I don't know how people spectate below the tree line - but I hope for the sake of keeping this type of activity around at the "club" type level that there aren't a lot of people hanging around track out with potentially novice and amateur drivers turning in early on a blind apex. (Not that pros haven't been known to do the same thing.)[/QUOTE]
We've been known to aim for your beer coolers as an apex marker...
Camping is now returning this year after five years. That will bring in some more folks I'm certain. Word is $100 per vehicle.
| [email�protected] | 04-27-2006 03:12 PM |
[QUOTE=Todd TCE]
Camping is now returning this year after five years. That will bring in some more folks I'm certain. Word is $100 per vehicle.[/QUOTE]
Bob Gillis mentioned this to me during my trip up there, as we had expressed interest in driving a motor-home to the event and staying on the mountain.
Camping is now returning this year after five years. That will bring in some more folks I'm certain. Word is $100 per vehicle.[/QUOTE]
Bob Gillis mentioned this to me during my trip up there, as we had expressed interest in driving a motor-home to the event and staying on the mountain.
| turboICE | 04-27-2006 03:30 PM |
OK now I am ticked, I was told in another thread that camping wouldn't be allowed again this year so with the substantial paving that has occured and no camping I was going to pass. Now I have to figure out a way to go, camping the playground the night before offsets the additional paving put in for the environmental whiners. (waiting to see their response to the damage the paving will now do in faster water runoff, next they will want suburban curbing and draining from the paved roads and sidewalks!)
More expensive than I recall but I would rather pay $100 to camp there the night before than not camp there at all.
Good thing my cooler is dug into the playground cliff wall (or glacier depending on the year) that is opposite the apex! No pendulum turn party fouls!
Edit: Oh unless I missed the point and the coolers on track out were used as visual marker indicators for points to turn towards around blind apexes. What if we move them 3'?
More expensive than I recall but I would rather pay $100 to camp there the night before than not camp there at all.
Good thing my cooler is dug into the playground cliff wall (or glacier depending on the year) that is opposite the apex! No pendulum turn party fouls!
Edit: Oh unless I missed the point and the coolers on track out were used as visual marker indicators for points to turn towards around blind apexes. What if we move them 3'?
| Todd TCE | 04-27-2006 03:45 PM |
Remember it's billed as "per vehicle". Not sure if that includes a bus or 10 in a motor home! Also there was no mention of it but I suspect it may be at designated areas only. Not like the days of old. Wouldn't surprise me given fire danger that the FS says "here, and there only" for containment issues.
| turboICE | 04-27-2006 04:17 PM |
Yeah IIRC it used to be like $20 a car plus $10 a person.
Hopefully the playground would be included since it is well above the tree line. I know one problem they had with camping was years when they allowed camping but prohibited open fires and people set them anyway, though the restriction always was followed by the few who stayed on the open exposure of the playground - we could frequently see the open fires below and always said that they were putting us at risk of no camping. All things considered on park property that permits camping at no other time during the year you would think reasonable people would be a bit more conscientious about following the restrictions.
Hopefully the playground would be included since it is well above the tree line. I know one problem they had with camping was years when they allowed camping but prohibited open fires and people set them anyway, though the restriction always was followed by the few who stayed on the open exposure of the playground - we could frequently see the open fires below and always said that they were putting us at risk of no camping. All things considered on park property that permits camping at no other time during the year you would think reasonable people would be a bit more conscientious about following the restrictions.
| WOOKIE101010101 | 04-28-2006 10:47 PM |
[[email�protected]]WRXedUSA,
Of the Pikes Peak event? I have told DynoComp, KingPin, Cobb Tuning, and Crawford Performance to name a few.
TurboICE...
that is true about potential offs... I believe that the organizers of the hill climb have designated viewing areas on the lower portion of the course, that will minimize the risk of a vehicle striking a spectator if it were to go off course.[/QUOTE]
I almost hope this is not true. PPIHC was the last place a truly responsible fan could be rewarded with a personalized spectating experience. If the Time Trials has cause this decision to be made finally, count me in the camp that could do with out it...
Of the Pikes Peak event? I have told DynoComp, KingPin, Cobb Tuning, and Crawford Performance to name a few.
TurboICE...
that is true about potential offs... I believe that the organizers of the hill climb have designated viewing areas on the lower portion of the course, that will minimize the risk of a vehicle striking a spectator if it were to go off course.[/QUOTE]
I almost hope this is not true. PPIHC was the last place a truly responsible fan could be rewarded with a personalized spectating experience. If the Time Trials has cause this decision to be made finally, count me in the camp that could do with out it...
| Todd TCE | 04-29-2006 09:03 AM |
The last couple of years have brought restricted PARKING areas. And some designated viewing areas for "family" outings. i.e. non drinking and partying spots. They have also restricted the use of bbq's, fire pits, and any open flame. At one point including smoking due to fire danger. I don't believe there has been any attempt to restrict where you can watch from other than some of the high impact areas that get taped off- getting to the good spots may be on foot. Once you pick your spot you'd be threre for a good time.
| WRXedUSA | 04-29-2006 01:13 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]I almost hope this is not true. PPIHC was the last place a truly responsible fan could be rewarded with a personalized spectating experience. If the Time Trials has cause this decision to be made finally, count me in the camp that could do with out it...[/QUOTE]
I agree with you fully. That's why I like PPIHC viewing opportunities more than actual WRC events.
Spectator pens are HORRIBLE to experience and truely detract from what a rally really is. But, since the lower portion of the course is now paved, many of the back woods parking areas have been erased due to earth moving, the road widening and hay bales really do not make for very good spectating below the picnic grounds.
I think the prime area is right above the picnic grounds in Gilly's Corner- Brown Bush Corner area. There is plenty of parking too. The higher you go on the mountain, the less cars you see because of mechanical failures.
I know that they did complete the paving from Glen Cove to Double Cut as evidenced by the Dodge Dakota TV commercials. Join us in the Gaylor straits area, and you can have best of both worlds!
I agree with you fully. That's why I like PPIHC viewing opportunities more than actual WRC events.
Spectator pens are HORRIBLE to experience and truely detract from what a rally really is. But, since the lower portion of the course is now paved, many of the back woods parking areas have been erased due to earth moving, the road widening and hay bales really do not make for very good spectating below the picnic grounds.
I think the prime area is right above the picnic grounds in Gilly's Corner- Brown Bush Corner area. There is plenty of parking too. The higher you go on the mountain, the less cars you see because of mechanical failures.
I know that they did complete the paving from Glen Cove to Double Cut as evidenced by the Dodge Dakota TV commercials. Join us in the Gaylor straits area, and you can have best of both worlds!
| Kingpin | 04-29-2006 10:39 PM |
We will definately be out for this event. Papa Gushi will be driving our Bridgestone Subaru, In the AWD unlimited class. Look forward to seeing you all there.
| WOOKIE101010101 | 04-30-2006 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=Todd TCE]The last couple of years have brought restricted PARKING areas. And some designated viewing areas for "family" outings. i.e. non drinking and partying spots. They have also restricted the use of bbq's, fire pits, and any open flame. At one point including smoking due to fire danger. I don't believe there has been any attempt to restrict where you can watch from other than some of the high impact areas that get taped off- getting to the good spots may be on foot. Once you pick your spot you'd be threre for a good time.[/QUOTE]
I have no problem parking in restricted areas, and don't drink on the mountain so no big there. The currently roped off areas don't bother me either, they are roped off because they are dangerous, which is why I wouldn't want to go there in the first place.
But the thought of being roped in on Pikes Peak for PPIHC makes my stomache turn.
PS Todd you going to Temple?
I have no problem parking in restricted areas, and don't drink on the mountain so no big there. The currently roped off areas don't bother me either, they are roped off because they are dangerous, which is why I wouldn't want to go there in the first place.
But the thought of being roped in on Pikes Peak for PPIHC makes my stomache turn.
PS Todd you going to Temple?
| Todd TCE | 04-30-2006 06:50 PM |
Crowd control and placement is part of current insurance issues I'm sure. Given two deaths in the past few years we can be pretty certain that people are watching. Combine that with Forest Service regs, tree hugger groups and the like we should be happy we are getting camping back. It's a good start.
Temple; yup. Got to get some seat time in. Might do some test days with Leonard if I can find some funds.
Temple; yup. Got to get some seat time in. Might do some test days with Leonard if I can find some funds.
| [email�protected] | 05-01-2006 11:09 AM |
Guys,
Following every converstation I have had with the organizers of the event, I never came away with the impression that our group would require any additional safety measures. I do not expect viewing areas to be reduced on the lower section of the course due to our involvement.
Following every converstation I have had with the organizers of the event, I never came away with the impression that our group would require any additional safety measures. I do not expect viewing areas to be reduced on the lower section of the course due to our involvement.
| MPME | 05-01-2006 03:36 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Has anyone told any Subaru shops of this?[/QUOTE]
Not sure if we'll be able to make it, but we do know of it and are interested. I'm curious what the 'unlimied AWD' cars will show up with--the #99 SPEED GT STI, while getting more and more fierce every day, is built to the rather restrictive SPEED GT rules.
Not a complaint, just a fact.
Turning the car into a true 'unlimited' car for one event wouldn't be feasible, or cost effective, so I can only hope that running the car in SPEED GT specs would end up being something in the ballpark to the free aero/weight/power rules others can build to.
A minimum weight of 3050lbs (w/driver, minus fuel), and something close to 475whp is what SPEED GT rules have us at.
What does everybody think?
Not sure if we'll be able to make it, but we do know of it and are interested. I'm curious what the 'unlimied AWD' cars will show up with--the #99 SPEED GT STI, while getting more and more fierce every day, is built to the rather restrictive SPEED GT rules.
Not a complaint, just a fact.
Turning the car into a true 'unlimited' car for one event wouldn't be feasible, or cost effective, so I can only hope that running the car in SPEED GT specs would end up being something in the ballpark to the free aero/weight/power rules others can build to.
A minimum weight of 3050lbs (w/driver, minus fuel), and something close to 475whp is what SPEED GT rules have us at.
What does everybody think?
| spazegun2213 | 05-01-2006 03:45 PM |
[QUOTE=MPME]Not sure if we'll be able to make it, but we do know of it and are interested. I'm curious what the 'unlimied AWD' cars will show up with--the #99 SPEED GT STI, while getting more and more fierce every day, is built to the rather restrictive SPEED GT rules.
Not a complaint, just a fact.
Turning the car into a true 'unlimited' car for one event wouldn't be feasible, or cost effective, so I can only hope that running the car in SPEED GT specs would end up being something in the ballpark to the free aero/weight/power rules others can build to.
A minimum weight of 3050lbs (w/driver, minus fuel), and something close to 475whp is what SPEED GT rules have us at.
What does everybody think?[/QUOTE]
I actually think you would rock the other unlimited cars. If gary drove, there would be no doubt that you car would beat them. what they all have in power, you all have in skill, and treachery ;)
while you may not put down a LOT of power, or be that light, you have a TON of grip. you also have a race proven setup, not just a tuner car with coilovers (not to bash anyone).
+1 for the ESX crew taking 1st OVERALL at the event :)
Not a complaint, just a fact.
Turning the car into a true 'unlimited' car for one event wouldn't be feasible, or cost effective, so I can only hope that running the car in SPEED GT specs would end up being something in the ballpark to the free aero/weight/power rules others can build to.
A minimum weight of 3050lbs (w/driver, minus fuel), and something close to 475whp is what SPEED GT rules have us at.
What does everybody think?[/QUOTE]
I actually think you would rock the other unlimited cars. If gary drove, there would be no doubt that you car would beat them. what they all have in power, you all have in skill, and treachery ;)
while you may not put down a LOT of power, or be that light, you have a TON of grip. you also have a race proven setup, not just a tuner car with coilovers (not to bash anyone).
+1 for the ESX crew taking 1st OVERALL at the event :)
| MPME | 05-01-2006 04:20 PM |
[I]I actually think you would rock the other unlimited cars. If gary drove, there would be no doubt that you car would beat them. what they all have in power, you all have in skill, and treachery ;)
while you may not put down a LOT of power, or be that light, you have a TON of grip. you also have a race proven setup, not just a tuner car with coilovers (not to bash anyone).
+1 for the ESX crew taking 1st OVERALL at the event :)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input--as for 1st, I'm never one to make boasts or claims for success. [/I]
If we do the event, I'd hope we'd do extremely well, but aren't going to assume we deserve to finish in any particular place.
Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.
Maybe I'm just plain old, but I've always subscribed to the 'do your talking on the track or with your results' mentality, rather than the 'talk lots of smack and ultimately make an a** out of yourself' mentality.
Seems the concept of enjoying competition for what it's intended for is less interesting than 'tarded verbage and chest-pounding for a lot of people.
Maybe it's an idea that there can only be one 'king of the hill,' and high school-level rivalries must be stoked at all times to assert who's the best, rather than the belief that a dozen Subie tuners can all succeed, and all make a good, long living from their expertise.
Dunno.
while you may not put down a LOT of power, or be that light, you have a TON of grip. you also have a race proven setup, not just a tuner car with coilovers (not to bash anyone).
+1 for the ESX crew taking 1st OVERALL at the event :)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input--as for 1st, I'm never one to make boasts or claims for success. [/I]
If we do the event, I'd hope we'd do extremely well, but aren't going to assume we deserve to finish in any particular place.
Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.
Maybe I'm just plain old, but I've always subscribed to the 'do your talking on the track or with your results' mentality, rather than the 'talk lots of smack and ultimately make an a** out of yourself' mentality.
Seems the concept of enjoying competition for what it's intended for is less interesting than 'tarded verbage and chest-pounding for a lot of people.
Maybe it's an idea that there can only be one 'king of the hill,' and high school-level rivalries must be stoked at all times to assert who's the best, rather than the belief that a dozen Subie tuners can all succeed, and all make a good, long living from their expertise.
Dunno.
| Chromer | 05-01-2006 04:34 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]i would also love to see dirt trials events here in the states too. like rally cross is here but A LOT faster (80-100mph in the long straights) and only allows prepped and caged cars.[/QUOTE]
That sounds a lot like a RallySprint... IIRC there are still a few of those being run around the country.
That sounds a lot like a RallySprint... IIRC there are still a few of those being run around the country.
| Crawford/I-Speed | 05-01-2006 04:46 PM |
Thanks for the input--as for 1st, I'm never one to make boasts or claims for success. [/I]
If we do the event, I'd hope we'd do extremely well, but aren't going to assume we deserve to finish in any particular place.
Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.
Maybe I'm just plain old, but I've always subscribed to the 'do your talking on the track or with your results' mentality, rather than the 'talk lots of smack and ultimately make an a** out of yourself' mentality.
Seems the concept of enjoying competition for what it's intended for is less interesting than 'tarded verbage and chest-pounding for a lot of people.
Maybe it's an idea that there can only be one 'king of the hill,' and high school-level rivalries must be stoked at all times to assert who's the best, rather than the belief that a dozen Subie tuners can all succeed, and all make a good, long living from their expertise.
Dunno.[/QUOTE]
That is funny; there was a similar exchange at our booth as well?
Talk is cheep although the results will speak for themselves.
If we do the event, I'd hope we'd do extremely well, but aren't going to assume we deserve to finish in any particular place.
Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.
Maybe I'm just plain old, but I've always subscribed to the 'do your talking on the track or with your results' mentality, rather than the 'talk lots of smack and ultimately make an a** out of yourself' mentality.
Seems the concept of enjoying competition for what it's intended for is less interesting than 'tarded verbage and chest-pounding for a lot of people.
Maybe it's an idea that there can only be one 'king of the hill,' and high school-level rivalries must be stoked at all times to assert who's the best, rather than the belief that a dozen Subie tuners can all succeed, and all make a good, long living from their expertise.
Dunno.[/QUOTE]
That is funny; there was a similar exchange at our booth as well?
Talk is cheep although the results will speak for themselves.
| WRXedUSA | 05-01-2006 05:00 PM |
[QUOTE=MPME]Not sure if we'll be able to make it, but we do know of it and are interested. I'm curious what the 'unlimied AWD' cars will show up with--the #99 SPEED GT STI, while getting more and more fierce every day, is built to the rather restrictive SPEED GT rules.
Not a complaint, just a fact.
Turning the car into a true 'unlimited' car for one event wouldn't be feasible, or cost effective, so I can only hope that running the car in SPEED GT specs would end up being something in the ballpark to the free aero/weight/power rules others can build to.
A minimum weight of 3050lbs (w/driver, minus fuel), and something close to 475whp is what SPEED GT rules have us at.
What does everybody think?[/QUOTE]
I think you would have a great shot. Rhys Millen drove his basically FormulaD car 2 years ago and placed respectable for an RWD car for a SCCA class. With more of the route paved, that should suite Gary fine. 475whp should be enough, but you certainly want to invest in a high-altitude tune. Most unlimited cars have 3 maps for different alititudes. Plan on exploding a turbo Stig-Style.
Koseki ran this unlimited STi last year for the 2nd year in a row:
[IMG]http://www.thawa.net/gallery/albums/album101/INGs_1.jpg[/IMG]
Unlimited Rules:
[url]http://www.ppihc.com/default.asp?mtype=comp&contid=49[/url]
Basically anything that meets the safety guidelines.
Not a complaint, just a fact.
Turning the car into a true 'unlimited' car for one event wouldn't be feasible, or cost effective, so I can only hope that running the car in SPEED GT specs would end up being something in the ballpark to the free aero/weight/power rules others can build to.
A minimum weight of 3050lbs (w/driver, minus fuel), and something close to 475whp is what SPEED GT rules have us at.
What does everybody think?[/QUOTE]
I think you would have a great shot. Rhys Millen drove his basically FormulaD car 2 years ago and placed respectable for an RWD car for a SCCA class. With more of the route paved, that should suite Gary fine. 475whp should be enough, but you certainly want to invest in a high-altitude tune. Most unlimited cars have 3 maps for different alititudes. Plan on exploding a turbo Stig-Style.
Koseki ran this unlimited STi last year for the 2nd year in a row:
[IMG]http://www.thawa.net/gallery/albums/album101/INGs_1.jpg[/IMG]
Unlimited Rules:
[url]http://www.ppihc.com/default.asp?mtype=comp&contid=49[/url]
Basically anything that meets the safety guidelines.
| [email�protected] | 05-01-2006 05:37 PM |
I knew there were about a half dozen companies at this weekend's Rim event that have expressed interest in running the Pikes Peak Redline Time Attack... but for the trash talking to already be occurring? LOL too funny.
I hope that all of the companies I had the opportunity to speak with over this past weekend can indeed make it out. I know this is late season addition, and the costs to participate are not budgeted....but hopefully with a little scraping we'll see some great representation at this event.
I hope that all of the companies I had the opportunity to speak with over this past weekend can indeed make it out. I know this is late season addition, and the costs to participate are not budgeted....but hopefully with a little scraping we'll see some great representation at this event.
| WRXedUSA | 05-01-2006 05:42 PM |
[[email�protected]]I knew there were about a half dozen companies at this weekend's Rim event that have expressed interest in running the Pikes Peak Redline Time Attack... but for the trash talking to already be occurring? LOL too funny.
[/QUOTE]
It's just the mystique of the mountain getting to them.
:)
[/QUOTE]
It's just the mystique of the mountain getting to them.
:)
| Trey | 05-01-2006 05:54 PM |
[QUOTE=MPME]Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, an a** kicking with full prior disclosure, that's awesome! No one trashed talked us at RIM. Wait, let me rephrase that. No one trashed talked us to our faces. You not only got full disclosure, it was personally delivered. I'm jealous! :p
It will be cool to see you guys out there! Out of curiousity, what motivated you to consider an event such as the Pikes Peak Time Attack?
Trey @ COBB
Oh wow, an a** kicking with full prior disclosure, that's awesome! No one trashed talked us at RIM. Wait, let me rephrase that. No one trashed talked us to our faces. You not only got full disclosure, it was personally delivered. I'm jealous! :p
It will be cool to see you guys out there! Out of curiousity, what motivated you to consider an event such as the Pikes Peak Time Attack?
Trey @ COBB
| WOOKIE101010101 | 05-01-2006 05:58 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]I think you would have a great shot. Rhys Millen drove his basically FormulaD car 2 years ago and placed respectable for an RWD car for a SCCA class. With more of the route paved, that should suite Gary fine. 475whp should be enough, but you certainly want to invest in a high-altitude tune. Most unlimited cars have 3 maps for different alititudes. Plan on exploding a turbo Stig-Style.
Koseki ran this unlimited STi last year for the 2nd year in a row:
Unlimited Rules:
Basically anything that meets the safety guidelines.[/QUOTE]
Running in PPIHC Unlimited could be tricky this year, Hawkeswood, 2 RS200s, another Kiwi whose name I don't know, and the possibility of a seriously pissed ex WRC Xsara ala Kenneth Erikson at the Race to the Sky....
Koseki ran this unlimited STi last year for the 2nd year in a row:
Unlimited Rules:
Basically anything that meets the safety guidelines.[/QUOTE]
Running in PPIHC Unlimited could be tricky this year, Hawkeswood, 2 RS200s, another Kiwi whose name I don't know, and the possibility of a seriously pissed ex WRC Xsara ala Kenneth Erikson at the Race to the Sky....
| MPME | 05-01-2006 06:10 PM |
[QUOTE=Trey]Oh wow, an a** kicking with full prior disclosure, that's awesome! No one trashed talked us at RIM. Wait, let me rephrase that. No one trashed talked us to our faces. You not only got full disclosure, it was personally delivered. I'm jealous! :p
It will be cool to see you guys out there! Out of curiousity, what motivated you to consider an event such as the Pikes Peak Time Attack?
Trey @ COBB[/QUOTE]
We saw the post here when it was first mentioned, and as ESX has been at Pikes for the past few years in support of our favorite Colorado-area dealers, getting the GT car out there seems like a good fit, provided the extra budget to do the event is secured.
Personally, I love the area, and did the Pikes Peak IRL event 3 or 4 times, so any excuse to get back to the Garden of the Gods and play racecar is something I'll always try to make happen.
It's only days after the Sears Point NASCAR/GT event, so who knows...
It will be cool to see you guys out there! Out of curiousity, what motivated you to consider an event such as the Pikes Peak Time Attack?
Trey @ COBB[/QUOTE]
We saw the post here when it was first mentioned, and as ESX has been at Pikes for the past few years in support of our favorite Colorado-area dealers, getting the GT car out there seems like a good fit, provided the extra budget to do the event is secured.
Personally, I love the area, and did the Pikes Peak IRL event 3 or 4 times, so any excuse to get back to the Garden of the Gods and play racecar is something I'll always try to make happen.
It's only days after the Sears Point NASCAR/GT event, so who knows...
| WRXedUSA | 05-01-2006 06:16 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]Running in PPIHC Unlimited could be tricky this year, Hawkeswood, 2 RS200s, another Kiwi whose name I don't know, and the possibility of a seriously pissed ex WRC Xsara ala Kenneth Erikson at the Race to the Sky....[/QUOTE]
That sounds exciting. Where are you getting your info?
That sounds exciting. Where are you getting your info?
| spazegun2213 | 05-01-2006 07:36 PM |
[QUOTE=MPME]
Thanks for the input--as for 1st, I'm never one to make boasts or claims for success.
If we do the event, I'd hope we'd do extremely well, but aren't going to assume we deserve to finish in any particular place.
Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.
Maybe I'm just plain old, but I've always subscribed to the 'do your talking on the track or with your results' mentality, rather than the 'talk lots of smack and ultimately make an a** out of yourself' mentality.
Seems the concept of enjoying competition for what it's intended for is less interesting than 'tarded verbage and chest-pounding for a lot of people.
Maybe it's an idea that there can only be one 'king of the hill,' and high school-level rivalries must be stoked at all times to assert who's the best, rather than the belief that a dozen Subie tuners can all succeed, and all make a good, long living from their expertise.
Dunno.[/QUOTE]
haha, thats ok, I'll boast for you all!!! Well, that sucks that you all were "threatened" but to be honest, comparing a tuner's car, to a real race car is like apples and oranges. You are constrained into rules that have to equalize cars of all shapes and sizes, tuners simply spend 80% of their budget (if there is one) on horse power.
Still Imagine the PR for both ESX and redline, if a race car shows up to an event, i think it would be a first. However I realize that ESX does have a budget and carting a race car around does get expensive.
Now, if only I can convice you all to come out to DC... hmmm
Thanks for the input--as for 1st, I'm never one to make boasts or claims for success.
If we do the event, I'd hope we'd do extremely well, but aren't going to assume we deserve to finish in any particular place.
Funny--at RIM last weekend, one of the Subie tuners mentioned above felt the need to stop by our display and inform us that "we hope you do the Pikes time Attack so we can kick your a**," or some similar moronic comment, and then expounded on how the a** kicking would be delivered.
Maybe I'm just plain old, but I've always subscribed to the 'do your talking on the track or with your results' mentality, rather than the 'talk lots of smack and ultimately make an a** out of yourself' mentality.
Seems the concept of enjoying competition for what it's intended for is less interesting than 'tarded verbage and chest-pounding for a lot of people.
Maybe it's an idea that there can only be one 'king of the hill,' and high school-level rivalries must be stoked at all times to assert who's the best, rather than the belief that a dozen Subie tuners can all succeed, and all make a good, long living from their expertise.
Dunno.[/QUOTE]
haha, thats ok, I'll boast for you all!!! Well, that sucks that you all were "threatened" but to be honest, comparing a tuner's car, to a real race car is like apples and oranges. You are constrained into rules that have to equalize cars of all shapes and sizes, tuners simply spend 80% of their budget (if there is one) on horse power.
Still Imagine the PR for both ESX and redline, if a race car shows up to an event, i think it would be a first. However I realize that ESX does have a budget and carting a race car around does get expensive.
Now, if only I can convice you all to come out to DC... hmmm
| cnstman | 05-01-2006 10:57 PM |
well the local subaru dealership, heuberger, is a sponsor for ESX's GT car, so maybe that will swing them.
| MPME | 05-01-2006 11:27 PM |
[QUOTE=Trey]Oh wow, an a** kicking with full prior disclosure, that's awesome! No one trashed talked us at RIM. Wait, let me rephrase that. No one trashed talked us to our faces. You not only got full disclosure, it was personally delivered. I'm jealous! :p
It will be cool to see you guys out there! Out of curiousity, what motivated you to consider an event such as the Pikes Peak Time Attack?
Trey @ COBB[/QUOTE]
Good to finally meet you, Trey.
It will be cool to see you guys out there! Out of curiousity, what motivated you to consider an event such as the Pikes Peak Time Attack?
Trey @ COBB[/QUOTE]
Good to finally meet you, Trey.
| Trey | 05-02-2006 11:23 AM |
[QUOTE=MPME]Good to finally meet you, Trey.[/QUOTE]
Likewise, Marshall. Good luck at Sears Point, and hopefully we'll see you again at Pikes Peak!
Trey @ COBB
Likewise, Marshall. Good luck at Sears Point, and hopefully we'll see you again at Pikes Peak!
Trey @ COBB
| WOOKIE101010101 | 05-02-2006 11:59 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]That sounds exciting. Where are you getting your info?[/QUOTE]
From sources that should know and have a vested interest in not spreading things they themselves don't believe.
I can corroborate the RS200s and the Kiwis.
The Polish Xsara and the Millens I either haven't heard anyhting about in a long enough time to give me doubts or just head of it and from just one source.
From sources that should know and have a vested interest in not spreading things they themselves don't believe.
I can corroborate the RS200s and the Kiwis.
The Polish Xsara and the Millens I either haven't heard anyhting about in a long enough time to give me doubts or just head of it and from just one source.
| [email�protected] | 05-02-2006 05:05 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]From sources that should know and have a vested interest in not spreading things they themselves don't believe.
I can corroborate the RS200s and the Kiwis.
The Polish Xsara and the Millens I either haven't heard anyhting about in a long enough time to give me doubts or just head of it and from just one source.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, the cars you are speaking of, would be entering the Pikes Peak Hill Climb.... Not the Redline Time Attack...
I can corroborate the RS200s and the Kiwis.
The Polish Xsara and the Millens I either haven't heard anyhting about in a long enough time to give me doubts or just head of it and from just one source.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, the cars you are speaking of, would be entering the Pikes Peak Hill Climb.... Not the Redline Time Attack...
| WOOKIE101010101 | 05-02-2006 07:52 PM |
[[email�protected]]As far as I know, the cars you are speaking of, would be entering the Pikes Peak Hill Climb.... Not the Redline Time Attack...[/QUOTE]
My appologies for not making that clear. I pressumed the tangent to PPIHC cars slightly due to the posting of PPIHC unlimited class rules by another poster.
I have no idea about entrants in the Time Attack portion of the event.
My appologies for not making that clear. I pressumed the tangent to PPIHC cars slightly due to the posting of PPIHC unlimited class rules by another poster.
I have no idea about entrants in the Time Attack portion of the event.
| [email�protected] | 05-03-2006 12:02 PM |
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]My appologies for not making that clear. I pressumed the tangent to PPIHC cars slightly due to the posting of PPIHC unlimited class rules by another poster.
I have no idea about entrants in the Time Attack portion of the event.[/QUOTE]
No problemo.. I just wanted to clear that up for everyone else, especially potential Redline Time Attack competitors, who may have thought they would be competing against the cars you mentioned.
I have no idea about entrants in the Time Attack portion of the event.[/QUOTE]
No problemo.. I just wanted to clear that up for everyone else, especially potential Redline Time Attack competitors, who may have thought they would be competing against the cars you mentioned.
| [email�protected] | 05-19-2006 11:01 AM |
Registration has been opened for this event. We have the event rule book and the other necessary forms posted on our website here:
[url]http://redlinetimeattack.com/index_ppihc.htm[/url]
We will be posting more information regarding this event over the next few days. If you have any questions, please email me or call me. 661-992-4384
Nikolas
[url]http://redlinetimeattack.com/index_ppihc.htm[/url]
We will be posting more information regarding this event over the next few days. If you have any questions, please email me or call me. 661-992-4384
Nikolas
| WRXedUSA | 05-26-2006 11:15 PM |
New news on the fate of the mountain.
Apparently the paving of the peak is coming from a 1999 settlement between The Sierra Club vs. City of Colorado Springs and US Forest Service.
Paving is expected to be completed in 2012.
[url]http://www.gazette.com/pikespeak/display.php?id=1317342[/url]
<---Pit in my stomach.
Apparently the paving of the peak is coming from a 1999 settlement between The Sierra Club vs. City of Colorado Springs and US Forest Service.
Paving is expected to be completed in 2012.
[url]http://www.gazette.com/pikespeak/display.php?id=1317342[/url]
<---Pit in my stomach.
| WOOKIE101010101 | 05-27-2006 12:38 AM |
so seriously, are you guys just going to run 2.8 miles?
Weak sauce man, run through Cove Creek that should be all smooth. Its going to be boring to watch if the cars are only going through one interesting corner and not ski area, or blue sky, or brown bush....
Weak sauce man, run through Cove Creek that should be all smooth. Its going to be boring to watch if the cars are only going through one interesting corner and not ski area, or blue sky, or brown bush....
| WRXedUSA | 05-27-2006 01:03 AM |
It would be more of a sell if they went further up the mountain.
But, I think only the first 2.8 miles is paved. Pavement ends at the end of the picnic grounds. This years paving was from Glen Cove to Double Cut.
But, I think only the first 2.8 miles is paved. Pavement ends at the end of the picnic grounds. This years paving was from Glen Cove to Double Cut.
| D fresh | 05-27-2006 07:13 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]I know that they did complete the paving from Glen Cove to Double Cut as evidenced by the Dodge Dakota TV commercials. Join us in the Gaylor straits area, and you can have best of both worlds![/QUOTE]
11 mile is a good spot as well.
[QUOTE=Kingpin]We will definately be out for this event. Papa Gushi will be driving our Bridgestone Subaru, In the AWD unlimited class. Look forward to seeing you all there.[/QUOTE]
Allright, I loved his interviw in Subiesport. Looks like I know who I'm rooting for this year.
[[email�protected]]Guys, Following every converstation I have had with the organizers of the event, I never came away with the impression that our group would require any additional safety measures. I do not expect viewing areas to be reduced on the lower section of the course due to our involvement.[/QUOTE]
If the Falken drift team performances on the paved section the last 2 years had no extra safety measures, which they didn't. Then I doubt you guys will.
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]so seriously, are you guys just going to run 2.8 miles?
Weak sauce man, run through Cove Creek that should be all smooth. Its going to be boring to watch if the cars are only going through one interesting corner and not ski area, or blue sky, or brown bush....[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming the 1 interesting corner you are reffering to would be Engineer's, correct?
11 mile is a good spot as well.
[QUOTE=Kingpin]We will definately be out for this event. Papa Gushi will be driving our Bridgestone Subaru, In the AWD unlimited class. Look forward to seeing you all there.[/QUOTE]
Allright, I loved his interviw in Subiesport. Looks like I know who I'm rooting for this year.
[[email�protected]]Guys, Following every converstation I have had with the organizers of the event, I never came away with the impression that our group would require any additional safety measures. I do not expect viewing areas to be reduced on the lower section of the course due to our involvement.[/QUOTE]
If the Falken drift team performances on the paved section the last 2 years had no extra safety measures, which they didn't. Then I doubt you guys will.
[QUOTE=WOOKIE101010101]so seriously, are you guys just going to run 2.8 miles?
Weak sauce man, run through Cove Creek that should be all smooth. Its going to be boring to watch if the cars are only going through one interesting corner and not ski area, or blue sky, or brown bush....[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming the 1 interesting corner you are reffering to would be Engineer's, correct?
| WOOKIE101010101 | 05-27-2006 09:51 PM |
[QUOTE=D fresh]
I'm assuming the 1 interesting corner you are reffering to would be Engineer's, correct?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and that can be pretty lame since it was paved....
I'm assuming the 1 interesting corner you are reffering to would be Engineer's, correct?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and that can be pretty lame since it was paved....
| [email�protected] | 05-30-2006 03:04 PM |
As the course continues to be paved, the course our "tarmac" prepped cars will run on, will increase as well. The vehicles that will be coming to run in this Time Attack are not setup for running on even the smoothest of dirt surfaces. This is simply an opportunity for Pikes Peak to fill their schedule with some extra competitors and also for teams that typically run on tarmac/asphalt to race in front of thousands of spectators they normally wouldnt have the chance to race in front of.
And I have to disagree with the statement made that our portion of the event will be boring. :-) There will be some VERY fast cars in our groups and the competition will be very close.
And I have to disagree with the statement made that our portion of the event will be boring. :-) There will be some VERY fast cars in our groups and the competition will be very close.
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