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STi Wagon? Should I lose the stickers? part 1

AWDPilot 02-16-2004 09:20 PM

STi Wagon? Should I loose the stickers
So I admit, my wagon isn't a sti ....

I picked up the sti fog covers from exeter (I dislike the new fogs), and got a grill off a friend's sti and have them on my wrx wagon. Question is should I remove the sti stickers from the fogs?

By this summer I will have the sti side skirts, a sti rear sway and sti wagon strut brace, and possibly sti door cards on it as well.

I also will be putting on a prodrive axleback, tein springs, rims, tires, and removing the roof rails, all this spring.

Power wise the only modifications I have done so far are a sti uppipe and the prodrive axleback. However next year I am thinking of doing a catless downpipe and ecu, so I will be putting out close to stock sti numbers at that time (if tuned right).

So what do you all think, keep em or loose em?


Current
[img]http://www.jeremykeith.com/images/wagyes.jpg[/img]

Removed?
[img]http://www.jeremykeith.com/images/wagno.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.jeremykeith.com/images/wagno2.jpg[/img]
re92 02-16-2004 09:35 PM

I say keep the stickers/badging. You'll be legit for it in a year anyway!!

Raj
InfamousDX 02-16-2004 09:53 PM

Ahh keep em... minor details.
lawn boy 02-16-2004 10:21 PM

STi stuff looks good on any impreza. i just put sti solid fog covers on my 03. no shame.
billybob3 02-17-2004 01:09 AM

Do ya have anymore pics of your STI Wagon? :lol:
allanak 02-17-2004 04:11 AM

I bought the solid fog covers for my 03 and I've been asked countless times "is that an sti?" I don't lie, but I'd feel like a dumbass if I removed the stickers from a genuine STi product such as the ridiculously overpriced pieces of plastic :) My vote is to leave em on.
Wagon Joe 02-17-2004 12:14 PM

here's my "STi wagon": :D

I say, keep it.

[IMG]http://www.cs.utah.edu/~jalipert/blackout.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.cs.utah.edu/~jalipert/wrx4.jpg[/IMG]
jaypine 02-17-2004 12:20 PM

It's your car, do what you want, but I think it's RICE. It reminds me of the Garfield comic were Jon buys the ultimate race car...a civic and his Type R badges are in the mail.
04Flatfour_wagon 02-17-2004 12:21 PM

I think if you keep the decals, it'd be nice if they were backed up by the STi motor. But then again, they [b]are[/b] authentic STi parts you're putting on the car, so you can keep the decals.

I too have an 04 WRB Wagon, and i'd love to put the 2.5L in the thing....maybe in a year;)

--Justin


(KEEP EM!)
Mishmosh 02-17-2004 04:46 PM

I think you guys with "STi" wagons should get the waist spoiler and custom fit the front side splitters. Would look great.

AS for the badging, I wouldn't. If your car really isn't an STi, any sticker/badge is just rice. Kinda like regular civics with "Si" badge.
MB38 02-17-2004 04:51 PM

I like em.
rankink 02-17-2004 04:57 PM

Take them off along with the STi badge on the grill. Unless it is a STi, they are ricey. My opinion...

But it is a good looking wagon either way.

K
MistaOctamopus 02-17-2004 05:35 PM

do what you think makes your car look good. Like someone said you don't have a STi but they are authentic parts. Rice is such a subjective concept, what's rice to one is kick ass to another so whatever. In the end you have to drive it and be seen in it, so do what you think will bring more joy. Other people's opinions only count as much as you let them......people who say rice too much are ricey.....
03WRXMA 02-17-2004 06:13 PM

Keep em already Jer!

:)
Kitt 02-17-2004 06:29 PM

keep them. Sti makes parts for Subaru, it's not the same as putting Type-R stickers on a Civic DX.

STI = TRD

Type-R doesn't make parts for Honda, it's a model.
AWDPilot 02-17-2004 07:06 PM

Wagon Joe

Nice looking ride (same axleback too ;)) I will probably keep them for now till I get everything on the car then reevaluate my thoughts on the whole deal.

And a usdm swap isn't out of the question down the road, just not any time too soon.
Italiano 02-18-2004 11:43 AM

You allready have STi parts to back it up ...Keep Them ;)
OneArmedScissor 02-18-2004 02:38 PM

only in america do people think the car is "an STi" and not "the STi edition impreza WRX"

its not rice, sti puts their label over EVERYTHING they make.
its a geniune STi part.

itd bel ike asking "is that a spoon civic?"
no...but it has sw388 wheels.
WRXRallyBlue 02-18-2004 03:31 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kitt[/i]
[B] keep them. Sti makes parts for Subaru, it's not the same as putting Type-R stickers on a Civic DX.

STI = TRD

Type-R doesn't make parts for Honda, it's a model. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thank you!
You're only advertising the tuner, so it's ok. It would be rice, however, if you claim the car came directly from STi; aka posing.
Make sense?
WRXRallyBlue 02-18-2004 03:37 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Milin[/i]
[B] only in america do people think the car is "an STi" and not "the STi edition impreza WRX" [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanks again to Milin.

Ooh, this topic bothers me because people pretend to know what they're talking about and then flame you!
"That's not an STi!!!"
Shut up! :furious:

Sorry...forgot my medicine again...
Mishmosh 02-18-2004 04:31 PM

Great... I have an STi shift knob. Guess it's time to replace the subaru badging with some STi ones!:eek:
AWDPilot 02-18-2004 06:44 PM

Yes I realize that "The STi" is actully a Subaru Impreza WRX STi, but damn I would hate to type that all out every time someone talks about that standard model (I am lazy).

Reguardless, thanks for everyone's thoughts and comments.
manchvegasuruguayguy 02-18-2004 09:39 PM

As being the only one replying to this thread that actually OWNS an STI , I say keep-em on dude & with the decals . They look really good on your wagon. Put whatever the f**k YOU want on YOUR ride As long as YOU like it , it`s the only thing that matters . You gotta remember that sometimes when you post things like this on this site , you always get some jackass that feels like he has to call it ricey or rag on it. And I remember what my grandmother taught me when I was a little boy , that being : If you don`t have anything nice to say , Shut you freakin piehole !!! Either that or the art-critic with the negative comments , post a picture of your car and let us cut it and you up . :D
Mishmosh 02-18-2004 09:53 PM

Easy there dude. We are just giving opinion. There is no right or wrong. The whole point of the thread was asking for opinions. Relax already...:)
surlysinglespeed 02-19-2004 07:46 PM

I would ditch them because it is not an "impreza wrx sti" model, edition or whatever they are different cars
One comes from the performance department and one does not

Having said that I dont care if you keep them if you like them :D

I have an STi and I barely like them on my car
Most of the labeling has been removed
All my car says now is "STi" with the exception of these same decals we are discussing. When I dont feel so lazy I will likely get rid of them.

A friend once said: "Less is more. More or less"
I liked that very much
manchvegasuruguayguy 02-19-2004 07:49 PM

I think some JDM foglights on the front of your wagon would look Baaaaaaaddddd.....:D
Stevegud1 02-20-2004 06:46 PM

I agree with those that say "STi is a perfomance division of Subaru", so my thinking is...if you have any PERFORMANCE upgrades from the STi line (not [b]just[/b] badges and stickers), then I won't roll my eyes if you plaster STi on as many places as you see fit. If there are no performance upgrades, then putting the stickers all over everything is a bit hokey. This is just my opinion, but it's your car...do what you want.:)
MRF582 02-21-2004 04:01 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stevegud1 [/i]
[B]I agree with those that say "STi is a perfomance division of Subaru", so my thinking is...if you have any PERFORMANCE upgrades from the STi line (not [b]just[/b] badges and stickers), then I won't roll my eyes if you plaster STi on as many places as you see fit. If there are no performance upgrades, then putting the stickers all over everything is a bit hokey. This is just my opinion, but it's your car...do what you want.:) [/B][/QUOTE]

i agree with that wholeheartedly. but yeah, if you feel cooler knowing there is an STi badge on your car, go for it. just don't be surprised when i roll my eyes and think to myself, "hahaha, i guess there is a little ricer in all of us"

it's your car do what you want.
it's my opinion, i can laugh as much as i want.
MRF582 02-21-2004 04:02 AM

btw, Stevegud1, us Pittsburghers think alike or what?
jkwagon 02-21-2004 06:45 AM

The concept of "rice" should not even be discussed in this manner. Civics will never be comparable to SUBIE'S
jkwagon 02-21-2004 06:49 AM

Hit return on accident,,,,, my finish - some people have chosen to buy wagons rather than the sedans. So a man has to do what a man has to do, to imagine life with a STI wagon!
Stevegud1 02-21-2004 09:31 PM

I was gonna buy a wagon, but I had to give the wife SOME say-so on the car. I decided on EVERYTHING else (5-speed, moonroof, Red,...) :lol:

MRF582, scary isn't it?
quentinberg007 02-22-2004 05:18 PM

Oh no! My RS is stock except for STi fog light covers and painted sideskirts!!!!

I think they look nice on my RS. I don't see a reason to remove the decals from a part that I may want to sell one day (especially since the part came that way). The fact that they were already silver sold me on them.

~~Quentin
WRX4SNO 02-24-2004 08:15 PM

Keep 'em on did it to my MY04 wagon. Added a great effect especially with the STi scoop. Please post the sideskirts when you install them, was thinking of added them too. I just wish the waist spoiler was not so $$$!


NTW
AWDPilot 02-24-2004 09:03 PM

[img]http://www.jeremykeith.com/images/skirts2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.jeremykeith.com/images/railless.jpg[/img]

As of this weekend, installed the sideskirts and removed the roof rails. I would do the scoop as well, but it would kick me out of STX
pittkid333 02-24-2004 11:12 PM

Looks pretty good...Stickers dont matter to me much + I dont think any impreza chassis look right w/ debadged covers...Looks too plain
ethereal 02-24-2004 11:43 PM

keep 'em
MK19_ 02-25-2004 11:48 AM

Did somebody say STi wagon???

[img]http://69.13.78.254/albums/1003/Kopf_Jager/BlackWerks_WRX_copy.jpg[/img]
MK19_ 02-25-2004 11:54 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gibjer [/i]
[B]
As of this weekend, installed the sideskirts and removed the roof rails. I would do the scoop as well, but it would kick me out of STX [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, technically speaking, removing the roof rails is an illegal mod., especially if you are even thinking about any National level stuff. Just an fyi ;)
AWDPilot 02-25-2004 01:02 PM

Really ? well that sucks, putting them back on isn't really worth it.

I don't plan on being competitive enough to go to nationals, nor do I have the budget to do so, so I am not too worried about it.

And I doubt I will get protested locally for it, since I don't plan on beating anyone :D

I did it for looks, not a competitive advantage, when I get my scoop however, I will be taking it off for events.



^^^^
And that wagon is the ish
MK19_ 02-25-2004 01:29 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gibjer[/i]
[B] Really ? well that sucks, putting them back on isn't really worth it.

I don't plan on being competitive enough to go to nationals, nor do I have the budget to do so, so I am not too worried about it.

And I doubt I will get protested locally for it, since I don't plan on beating anyone :D

I did it for looks, not a competitive advantage, when I get my scoop however, I will be taking it off for events.



^^^^
And that wagon is the ish [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks for the props... yeah, I am with ya on putting them back on. Unless you get the top 3, I doubt you'll have a concern even at national level. At my last ProSolo in Atlanta, it went like this: Impound Steward - "Anyone in SM have a problem with anyone in SM?" ... silence. "OK, get outta here!" :lol: :lol: :lol:
whtlegacy 02-25-2004 02:36 PM

lose the badge, keep the stickers
WRX4SNO 02-25-2004 10:33 PM

Gibjer would be possible for a nice side shot of your skirts? How did the install work, time etc.
PR_WRX 02-26-2004 04:04 AM

Keep'em! Before the 04 STI was selling in the US everyone was buying stuff with the STI emblem and no one had a problem.
silverF4turbo 02-26-2004 05:10 AM

Keep it as is... after all there is no STI wagon so its not like you're trying to fool anyone

Get those STI side thingies for the front bumper to match the sideskirt
AWDPilot 02-26-2004 09:10 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRX4SNO[/i]
[B] Gibjer would be possible for a nice side shot of your skirts? How did the install work, time etc. [/B][/QUOTE]

All the pics of my wagon, and some pics during the install can be found at

[url]http://www.jeremykeith.com/?page=photos&sub=mysubaru[/url]

There are some full res shots of the car as well.

As far as the install goes, couldn't get much simpler, there is one plastic screw in each front fenderwell that you need to take out and 6 of those plastic expansion plugs where you need to pop out the center then pull the plug out, on each side. Uses all the stock mounting holes etc. Then just pull, will snap out and whalla. Reverse the process and your done.

The hardest part for me was transfering the little mini mudflap thing that's just before the rear tire (bout 4" long don't know what good it does but I put it back on). Hell, I didn't even know they were there untill one fell off while I was taking off the old skirt.

All in all I had them both swapped in 45 minutes.

The roof rails .... those are a pita, and even more so by yourself, not hard per se, just time comsuming and it involves doing allot of work above your head, which gets tiring quickly (at least for me)

- Jer
joshuagore 02-26-2004 09:33 AM

Since we are not offered the STI here in the states maybe its ok.
I represent, for the wagon suby's gB who cant come stateside.


[IMG]http://www.developer10.com/~joshuagore/wrx/wrx8.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.developer10.com/~joshuagore/wrx/wrx4.jpg[/IMG]
SparkysJDMSpeedWagon 02-26-2004 03:34 PM

I agree, keep em on there. I think the new fogs look dumb on my 04 PSM wagon too. But you should probably think of some way to get the STi splitters too, just to make it look cool. According to the Japanese Subaru site, there isn't even an STi wagon offered this year, so it's up to you what is "JDM" and what is misplaced/stolen off an STi. Either way, I say it looks cool, but I'd probably get the JDM foglights (larger) instead of the covers, just because I like the extra vision from having fogs.
MRF582 02-27-2004 02:30 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jkwagon [/i]
[B]The concept of "rice" should not even be discussed in this manner. Civics will never be comparable to SUBIE'S [/B][/QUOTE]

Subaru's can't be rice? :rolleyes:

what does rice mean? if you have labels for parts you don't have, that's rice. if you put on STi badges on a car but you have no PERFORMANCE STi parts, then that's rice.

STi is a performance division of Subaru. So go get STi performance parts and then put STi badges on your car. all the people that say it's ok to put STi badges on a car which is completely void of STi performance parts are in denial.
kungfooren 03-22-2005 01:04 PM

i gota comment on this.

i don't think a lot of people will really care if you have an STi grill. I think it looks great and i'm probably going to get one for my black wagon. why would you buy an STi grill then shave off the STi? Wouldn't it be almost the same as keeping the stock grill?

-jeffrey
Stevegud1 03-23-2005 05:26 PM

Holy OLD THREAD! Nobody has commented on it for over a year! 'Til just now! I wonder if this guy even still has the car?
T_Rex 03-23-2005 05:45 PM

it is your decision, but i agree it should be back up by something more sti than pink (sorry, cherry blossom red) strut bars or whatever you have, i mean i could slap 'S203' stickers all over my car too! :D its up to you, man. no ones gonna hold it against you.

lmfao. whoops.
prelude/2.5rs 03-23-2005 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=Mishmosh]I think you guys with "STi" wagons should get the waist spoiler and custom fit the front side splitters. Would look great.

AS for the badging, I wouldn't. If your car really isn't an STi, any sticker/badge is just rice. Kinda like regular civics with "Si" badge.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I do have a wagon w/ a set of authentic mesh STI covers. I also have the EDM/JDM front and rear lip spoilers w/ the waist spoiler to match. I wouldn't take the decals off though. It is real STI parts. You paid the big $$$ for it so you might as well keep the decals on. Good luck w/ your decision.

Mike
tuellma 03-23-2005 06:35 PM

It's got the STI engine already (JDM one anyways) if you dress it like an STI then who's to say what you should do. If you tune it to match the JDM hp numbers then you are legit in my opinion.

From another Wagon owner.
ShiroChanWRX 06-02-2005 11:27 PM

I say take the stickers off. "A genuine STi part"? Real "type R" badges don't look cool just because they are real.

And besides, you can get the fog light covers *without* STi logos for $80. So, its OK if you buy them with the stickers for $130, but buying the $80 ones and putting stickers on them would be lame, right?

I guess the factory labor on putting the decals on is worth $50 to some people, and they want everyone to know that they think so...

Just my opinion, disagree if you like...
Homerisking 06-03-2005 12:04 AM

wow...resurrected from the dead....I like to be sticker free IMHO. Plus like ShiroChanWRX said...subygal can hook you up much cheaper on the clean versions.
FWD WRX 06-03-2005 12:37 AM

[QUOTE=MRF582]Subaru's can't be rice? :rolleyes:

what does rice mean? if you have labels for parts you don't have, that's rice. if you put on STi badges on a car but you have no PERFORMANCE STi parts, then that's rice.

STi is a performance division of Subaru. So go get STi performance parts and then put STi badges on your car. all the people that say it's ok to put STi badges on a car which is completely void of STi performance parts are in denial.[/QUOTE]

i agree. i bet if i installed an authentic S203 spolier on my wrx and put on the 203 emblem i would get flamed for days would i not
Stevegud1 06-03-2005 05:19 PM

I bought the STi windshield wiper blade for my reg. WRX, so I qualify...but still no [B]STi[/B]ckers.
Foxfire 06-04-2005 03:41 AM

On behalf of all us wagon owners who would have bought an STi wagon if it were possible, I say keep it!!!! Very satisfying to see!
jsmonet 06-04-2005 09:16 AM

eh, still ricey IMO. and i love all this "i'll be at stock sti power levels" talk :)

oh, and i hope i'm just not reading this right:
[quote]It's got the STI engine already (JDM one anyways) if you dress it like an STI then who's to say what you should do. If you tune it to match the JDM hp numbers then you are legit in my opinion.[/quote]

just a few things...
-even tuned to put out similar levels of power, the usdm wrx motor bears no resemblance to the jdm sti motor outside of the H layout and 2L of displacement. think head design + avcs.
-it's way more than a motor swap and gears.
-where's the other 1k rpm? :) yeah, i want an 8k redline as well, actually (and enough turbo/head/cam/valvetrain to use it)

we got crappy ver6 heads on our wrx's with ports so small you'd almost mistake them for blemishes in the surface. i know you can make a fair amount of power with them, but that's like saying you can make 300hp with a 2" exhaust. this is akin to running a mile while wearing a ball and chain.

anyway, i just can't help but cringe at people with badges like that. same thing goes through my head when i see bimmer's with ///M gear slapped on their cars. you can get side mouldings with little ///M's in them. how silly is that? haha

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