| Ice racer | 10-29-2004 10:15 PM |
Street Legal Ice racing!
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[COLOR=Magenta][b]Like to take your Subie out on a fresh snow covered road and hang the tail out in the winter? [/b][/COLOR] :D
[COLOR=Black]What if I told you that you could come out and race your daily driven car wheel to wheel on a custom plowed 1 to 1.5 mile ice road course for just $35 a day? That includes a warm up session and three 20 minute heat races adding up to over an hour of seat time each race day! Sounds too cheap right? Surely any kind of organized automobile racing costs hundreds more than that right? Sounds too good to be true?
Then what if I added in the fact that all you need to race is a fire extinguisher a set of quality winter tires [studded or unstudded], and a Snell 95 or better helmet? There are no roll bars required in this class. They are encouraged as is any other type of safety equiptment you'd like to have. But most people just drive to the lake and run their stock street cars. Jeff Denmeade runs his Impreza each winter and has the time of his life out with us. Notice how w-i-d-e the track is plowed. Plenty of room to race and keep a safe distance from other cars.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0073.jpg[/img]
OK, you're saying to yourself a this point, "I'm not going to race my beautiful street car wheel to wheel with some knucklehead that's gonna slide into me in a corner." Well let me tell you this: This is A.M.E.C. Ice Racing's Street Legal [SL] and SLU [Unstuddd] classes and we've had a strict "No Contact" rule in place for two full seasons now. It is the cleanest wheel to wheel road racing you will find anywhere. In fact, it's comparible to Vintage racing where you make [i]darn sure[/i] that you avoid contact at all costs. Unlike SCCA, DIRT, or NASCAR, it is rare that anyone's car even gets a scratch. Obviously there's no guaranty of no contact, but these classes have shown that you really can drive your car to the race, race all day and drive it home no worse for wear. The SL classes are where you'd run your stock street car [no engine mods] carefully and with respect for everyone else's car on the track. I'd like to say it is a gentlemen's class, but I can't because we have several ladies running very competitively with us each season.
Sound interesting? Please take a look at this new SL and SLU class web page from our Adirondack Motor Enthusiast Club [A.M.E.C.] website [/COLOR] [URL=http://www.icerace.com/sl.htm][b]SL Ice Racing[/b][/URL].
[COLOR=Black]What if I told you that you could come out and race your daily driven car wheel to wheel on a custom plowed 1 to 1.5 mile ice road course for just $35 a day? That includes a warm up session and three 20 minute heat races adding up to over an hour of seat time each race day! Sounds too cheap right? Surely any kind of organized automobile racing costs hundreds more than that right? Sounds too good to be true?
Then what if I added in the fact that all you need to race is a fire extinguisher a set of quality winter tires [studded or unstudded], and a Snell 95 or better helmet? There are no roll bars required in this class. They are encouraged as is any other type of safety equiptment you'd like to have. But most people just drive to the lake and run their stock street cars. Jeff Denmeade runs his Impreza each winter and has the time of his life out with us. Notice how w-i-d-e the track is plowed. Plenty of room to race and keep a safe distance from other cars.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0073.jpg[/img]
OK, you're saying to yourself a this point, "I'm not going to race my beautiful street car wheel to wheel with some knucklehead that's gonna slide into me in a corner." Well let me tell you this: This is A.M.E.C. Ice Racing's Street Legal [SL] and SLU [Unstuddd] classes and we've had a strict "No Contact" rule in place for two full seasons now. It is the cleanest wheel to wheel road racing you will find anywhere. In fact, it's comparible to Vintage racing where you make [i]darn sure[/i] that you avoid contact at all costs. Unlike SCCA, DIRT, or NASCAR, it is rare that anyone's car even gets a scratch. Obviously there's no guaranty of no contact, but these classes have shown that you really can drive your car to the race, race all day and drive it home no worse for wear. The SL classes are where you'd run your stock street car [no engine mods] carefully and with respect for everyone else's car on the track. I'd like to say it is a gentlemen's class, but I can't because we have several ladies running very competitively with us each season.
Sound interesting? Please take a look at this new SL and SLU class web page from our Adirondack Motor Enthusiast Club [A.M.E.C.] website [/COLOR] [URL=http://www.icerace.com/sl.htm][b]SL Ice Racing[/b][/URL].
| Rallycarperson | 10-29-2004 11:21 PM |
:eek:
Wow! That looks awsome.
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
Wow! That looks awsome.
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
| akuhner | 10-30-2004 12:25 AM |
Yes, I've been meaning to try that. Maybe now that the RS has 120,000 miles on it she's old enough to go shoulder to shoulder! ;)
| speedyHAM | 10-30-2004 02:23 AM |
I wish I were in NY. Looks like a blast.
| turboICE | 10-30-2004 08:25 AM |
What class would an STi with a reflashed ECU be in, still SL/SLU
A stock prepped STi with 4 point roll bar and driver would be more than 3200#, would they not be permitted?
Do you have novice heats/sessions?
A stock prepped STi with 4 point roll bar and driver would be more than 3200#, would they not be permitted?
Do you have novice heats/sessions?
| Ice racer | 11-02-2004 10:15 PM |
[QUOTE=turboICE]What class would an STi with a reflashed ECU be in, still SL/SLU
A stock prepped STi with 4 point roll bar and driver would be more than 3200#, would they not be permitted?
Do you have novice heats/sessions?[/QUOTE] Hello turboICE,
No problem with the 3,200 lbs. That limit is based on the car's original curb weight and the driver is not counted. You are good for either SL or SLU. [img]http://www.v8buick.com/images/smilies/xyxthumbs.gif[/img]
Don't mention to anyone that your ECU is reflashed and they won't know. ;)
Beleive me, with 300+ h.p. you will rarely be able to floor the car except for on the straights. :p
We don't have novice sessions per say, but we DO have morning warmup sessions for everyone and they are mandatory for new drivers. Plus, all new drivers get gridded in the rear during the first race so they can take their time and learn the course and their car without the pressure of fending off the frontrunners in the first lap. That's the best bet if you haven't ice raced before.
A stock prepped STi with 4 point roll bar and driver would be more than 3200#, would they not be permitted?
Do you have novice heats/sessions?[/QUOTE] Hello turboICE,
No problem with the 3,200 lbs. That limit is based on the car's original curb weight and the driver is not counted. You are good for either SL or SLU. [img]http://www.v8buick.com/images/smilies/xyxthumbs.gif[/img]
Don't mention to anyone that your ECU is reflashed and they won't know. ;)
Beleive me, with 300+ h.p. you will rarely be able to floor the car except for on the straights. :p
We don't have novice sessions per say, but we DO have morning warmup sessions for everyone and they are mandatory for new drivers. Plus, all new drivers get gridded in the rear during the first race so they can take their time and learn the course and their car without the pressure of fending off the frontrunners in the first lap. That's the best bet if you haven't ice raced before.
| ITWRX4ME | 11-03-2004 08:02 AM |
Looks like a hoot! Definitely wouldn't take a nice daily driver though.
| Ice racer | 11-03-2004 08:36 AM |
[QUOTE=ITWRX4ME] Definitely wouldn't take a nice daily driver though.[/QUOTE]
Someone forget to tell Jeff Denmeade that when he ran his pristine WRX with us two years ago. He is seen here racing against another AWD turbo car, Art Mayew's Audi Quattro Coupe! All had a blast without even a scratch. There is lots of racing room and you can start in the rear any time you want until you get the confidence to show what your Subie can really do. :)
[IMG]http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL9/2048340/3969556/60948940.jpg[/IMG]
Someone forget to tell Jeff Denmeade that when he ran his pristine WRX with us two years ago. He is seen here racing against another AWD turbo car, Art Mayew's Audi Quattro Coupe! All had a blast without even a scratch. There is lots of racing room and you can start in the rear any time you want until you get the confidence to show what your Subie can really do. :)
[IMG]http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL9/2048340/3969556/60948940.jpg[/IMG]
| skuttledude | 11-03-2004 09:21 AM |
That looks like way too much fun...too bad its like 10 hrs from where I live:(
Send pics and vids if possible!
Send pics and vids if possible!
| randy zimmer | 11-03-2004 09:40 AM |
a bit closer
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CNY has a series too and that'd save a few hours.
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| Ice racer | 11-03-2004 09:49 AM |
[QUOTE=randy zimmer]CNY has a series too and that'd save a few hours.
[url]http://www.cnyira.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes, that's true. I have raced with them this past Feb. Good people! They don't have a class with a "No contact" rule like we have, but I ran dent free with them anyway. Definately check them out if they are closer to you! :)
[url]http://www.cnyira.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes, that's true. I have raced with them this past Feb. Good people! They don't have a class with a "No contact" rule like we have, but I ran dent free with them anyway. Definately check them out if they are closer to you! :)
| Ice racer | 11-03-2004 12:31 PM |
[QUOTE=Davis K Powers]That looks like way too much fun...
Send pics and vids if possible![/QUOTE][COLOR=Black]A.M.E.C. is just starting to experiment with adding video clips on our main page[/COLOR] [URL=http://www.icerace.com/]HERE[/URL] [COLOR=Black]Check out the 15 or 20 second clip I submitted last week. FWIW, we have a Street Legal class DVD available at the bottom of the main page. Nicely done, it has in car stuff and full narration too.[/COLOR]
Send pics and vids if possible![/QUOTE][COLOR=Black]A.M.E.C. is just starting to experiment with adding video clips on our main page[/COLOR] [URL=http://www.icerace.com/]HERE[/URL] [COLOR=Black]Check out the 15 or 20 second clip I submitted last week. FWIW, we have a Street Legal class DVD available at the bottom of the main page. Nicely done, it has in car stuff and full narration too.[/COLOR]
| Butt Dyno | 11-03-2004 03:03 PM |
So.. how far in advance do you know about events?
| Homemade WRX | 11-03-2004 04:46 PM |
that is awesome!!! I wish we had that here...or anywhere remotely near here.
now I'm sad, Micah
now I'm sad, Micah
| Ice racer | 11-04-2004 12:22 AM |
[QUOTE=ButtDyno]So.. how far in advance do you know about events?[/QUOTE] Ice racing is one of those sports where mother nature always has the last word. Usually we go out and check the lake[s] we want to run on a Thursday for the minimum consistent 12" of thickness. We usually make the call on Friday afternoon before the Sunday race. We have had as much as 30" of ice one lake last year. :)
| Ice racer | 11-04-2004 12:25 AM |
[QUOTE=Homemade WRX]that is awesome!!! I wish we had that here...or anywhere remotely near here.
now I'm sad, Micah[/QUOTE] Got an family up north? It's a good excuse for a visit. ;)
We had a guy tow his RX7 all the way up from South Carolina last year. :eek: [b]That's[/b] hard core! :p
now I'm sad, Micah[/QUOTE] Got an family up north? It's a good excuse for a visit. ;)
We had a guy tow his RX7 all the way up from South Carolina last year. :eek: [b]That's[/b] hard core! :p
| firedog25 | 11-04-2004 12:55 AM |
I wish we had Ice Racing in California. :(
| turboICE | 11-13-2004 12:06 AM |
I guess I no longer need to worry about taking the STi out there - ice racing car was just purchased.
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4502567032&fromMakeTrack=true[/url]
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| Ice racer | 11-14-2004 03:29 PM |
[QUOTE=turboICE]I guess I no longer need to worry about taking the STi out there - ice racing car was just purchased.
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4502567032&fromMakeTrack=true[/url][/QUOTE]Wow, an iX is way cool! Nice purchase indeed turboICE. It comes with Blizzaks too! Let me know how she runs and drives when you get it. :)
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4502567032&fromMakeTrack=true[/url][/QUOTE]Wow, an iX is way cool! Nice purchase indeed turboICE. It comes with Blizzaks too! Let me know how she runs and drives when you get it. :)
| wrxsubaru | 11-14-2004 03:42 PM |
I really wish there was some thing like that in the north west.
| AngryBlueRS | 11-14-2004 05:05 PM |
Another ice racing option in the central NH area:
[url]http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/2004/ice-racing.asp[/url]
Its a timed race, no bumper to bumper, so your only chance for a dent is in the parking lot. ;)
Reg fee is $20, $15 if you are a BMW member. Besides the main track there is always one or two practice courses so you can go for as much seat time as your gas tank will permit.
Chris
[url]http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/2004/ice-racing.asp[/url]
Its a timed race, no bumper to bumper, so your only chance for a dent is in the parking lot. ;)
Reg fee is $20, $15 if you are a BMW member. Besides the main track there is always one or two practice courses so you can go for as much seat time as your gas tank will permit.
Chris
| Ice racer | 11-28-2004 11:42 PM |
Here's some aerial shots I took from a '47 Piper Vagabond a couple years ago. This will give you all a better idea of what we do. :)
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0189.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0193.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0195.jpg[/IMG]
It doesn't just look like fun, it [b]is[/b]! :D
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0189.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0193.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0195.jpg[/IMG]
It doesn't just look like fun, it [b]is[/b]! :D
| slowscooby | 11-29-2004 12:23 AM |
my god...im in the wrong part of the country....I want to come do that in the worst way.
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-29-2004 01:19 AM |
[QUOTE=wrxsubaru]I really wish there was some thing like that in the north west.[/QUOTE]
There is: Barnes Lake in BC. I don't know if they have any street classes though.
There is: Barnes Lake in BC. I don't know if they have any street classes though.
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-29-2004 01:20 AM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]Hello turboICE,
No problem with the 3,200 lbs. That limit is based on the car's original curb weight and the driver is not counted. [/QUOTE]
Stock 2004 STi curb weight is 3263lb.
No problem with the 3,200 lbs. That limit is based on the car's original curb weight and the driver is not counted. [/QUOTE]
Stock 2004 STi curb weight is 3263lb.
| Ice racer | 11-29-2004 10:07 AM |
[QUOTE=Glenn Wallace]Stock 2004 STi curb weight is 3263lb.[/QUOTE] Hmm thanks, I didn't know that. I guess the big brakes and other items put the STi over the edge. :D We have our own electronic scales we use at tech if there is a question about the weight of someone's car. I would imagine that if you took the spare and jack out of the car before you brought it to tech you might get it under 3,200 lbs. ;)
I weighed a brand new Saaburu 9-2X and found that it only weighed 3,120. I was very surprised.
I weighed a brand new Saaburu 9-2X and found that it only weighed 3,120. I was very surprised.
| Homemade WRX | 11-29-2004 10:24 AM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]Hmm thanks, I didn't know that. I guess the big brakes and other items put the STi over the edge. :D We have our own electronic scales we use at tech if there is a question about the weight of someone's car. I would imagine that if you took the spare and jack out of the car before you brought it to tech you might get it under 3,200 lbs. ;)
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but I think the STi weight is dry...so add fuel etc...might make things really tight, remove back seat, floor mats etc...trunk lid ;)
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but I think the STi weight is dry...so add fuel etc...might make things really tight, remove back seat, floor mats etc...trunk lid ;)
| turboICE | 11-29-2004 10:31 AM |
Replacing the front seats with buckets lightens the car significantly.
| Ice racer | 11-29-2004 10:38 AM |
[QUOTE=turboICE]Replacing the front seats with buckets lightens the car significantly.[/QUOTE] Now there's a legal way to lighten the car. :p
Safety items are legal to install. Racing seats qualify. :)
But removing the seats doesn't. :(
Safety items are legal to install. Racing seats qualify. :)
But removing the seats doesn't. :(
| Butt Dyno | 11-29-2004 10:52 AM |
[QUOTE=Homemade WRX]but I think the STi weight is dry...so add fuel etc...might make things really tight, remove back seat, floor mats etc...trunk lid ;)[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure curb weight includes a full tank of gas..
| ratt_finkel | 11-29-2004 03:31 PM |
They have one of those here in Dallas, right? Right! :(
| turboICE | 11-29-2004 03:33 PM |
Stars aren't using their rink, right?
| Butt Dyno | 11-29-2004 04:16 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]They have one of those here in Dallas, right? Right! :([/QUOTE]You guys could just oil slick a parking lot..
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-29-2004 04:29 PM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]Hmm thanks, I didn't know that. I guess the big brakes and other items put the STi over the edge.[/quote]
Bigger tranny, bigger rear diff....
and remember this weight was after the car went on a diet (no rear seat pass through, no rear wiper, no stereo or speakers, lightweight rear glass, Spec C lightweight wheels and tires....)
[quote] :D We have our own electronic scales we use at tech if there is a question about the weight of someone's car. I would imagine that if you took the spare and jack out of the car before you brought it to tech you might get it under 3,200 lbs. ;) [/quote]
I have actually heard the spec'd weight was on the optomistic side.
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I weighed a brand new Saaburu 9-2X and found that it only weighed 3,120. I was very surprised.[/QUOTE]
Why so? Basically an 05 WRX/RS wagon....
Glenn
Bigger tranny, bigger rear diff....
and remember this weight was after the car went on a diet (no rear seat pass through, no rear wiper, no stereo or speakers, lightweight rear glass, Spec C lightweight wheels and tires....)
[quote] :D We have our own electronic scales we use at tech if there is a question about the weight of someone's car. I would imagine that if you took the spare and jack out of the car before you brought it to tech you might get it under 3,200 lbs. ;) [/quote]
I have actually heard the spec'd weight was on the optomistic side.
[quote]
I weighed a brand new Saaburu 9-2X and found that it only weighed 3,120. I was very surprised.[/QUOTE]
Why so? Basically an 05 WRX/RS wagon....
Glenn
| turboICE | 11-29-2004 04:29 PM |
From Dallas, there has to be winter sport driving within 12 hours out towards NM, CO
| ANZAC_1915 | 11-29-2004 04:30 PM |
[QUOTE=Glenn Wallace]There is: Barnes Lake in BC. I don't know if they have any street classes though.[/QUOTE]
Here is the link:
[url]http://carsonice.ca/[/url]
Here is the link:
[url]http://carsonice.ca/[/url]
| Ice racer | 11-29-2004 08:08 PM |
[QUOTE=Glenn Wallace]Why so? Basically an 05 WRX/RS wagon....[/QUOTE] Yes, but I figured that because it was a Saab, that it would have been loaded up with luxury appointments that could add up to substantial additional weight. Also I remembered reading in Sport Compact Car that the WRX wagon weighed something like 3180. That's why I weighed one for myself. That takes all of the speculation out of it. :cool:
| AngryBlueRS | 11-29-2004 09:29 PM |
I wanted to get out for this last year but never got a chance. I was thinking of it for this year, bit now I'm nervous about the weight numbers being so close to the max.
If someone makes the trip out but tips the scales over 3200, will they get a reprieve based on the advice in this thread and still get to run? Or is the only options frantically stripping weight out of the car or going home without ice time?
Thanks!
Chris
If someone makes the trip out but tips the scales over 3200, will they get a reprieve based on the advice in this thread and still get to run? Or is the only options frantically stripping weight out of the car or going home without ice time?
Thanks!
Chris
| Ice racer | 11-29-2004 10:58 PM |
[QUOTE=AngryBlueRS]I wanted to get out for this last year but never got a chance. I was thinking of it for this year, bit now I'm nervous about the weight numbers being so close to the max.
If someone makes the trip out but tips the scales over 3200, will they get a reprieve based on the advice in this thread and still get to run? Or is the only options frantically stripping weight out of the car or going home without ice time?
Thanks!
Chris[/QUOTE] No need to worry. I am the V.P. of the club and also one of the tech inspectors. :D We are not going to knit pick someone for 50 pounds. The only time we actually had to weigh a car was when several members requested it after a huge Audi 5000 Quattro showed up. No need to strip weight out of your car. With a car like yours, [i]you won't need to![/i]. :p
[b]BY the way: This weight limit does NOT apply to our annual "Studs on Ice" event talked about later in this thread.[/b]
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. V.P.
If someone makes the trip out but tips the scales over 3200, will they get a reprieve based on the advice in this thread and still get to run? Or is the only options frantically stripping weight out of the car or going home without ice time?
Thanks!
Chris[/QUOTE] No need to worry. I am the V.P. of the club and also one of the tech inspectors. :D We are not going to knit pick someone for 50 pounds. The only time we actually had to weigh a car was when several members requested it after a huge Audi 5000 Quattro showed up. No need to strip weight out of your car. With a car like yours, [i]you won't need to![/i]. :p
[b]BY the way: This weight limit does NOT apply to our annual "Studs on Ice" event talked about later in this thread.[/b]
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. V.P.
| dentsport | 11-30-2004 12:21 AM |
Mike,
Are you having the studs on ice again this year? I was there in my talon last year and had such a good time. Its too far to come out there for all the events but well worth it for the studs event.
-Bill
Are you having the studs on ice again this year? I was there in my talon last year and had such a good time. Its too far to come out there for all the events but well worth it for the studs event.
-Bill
| Ice racer | 11-30-2004 12:44 AM |
[QUOTE=dentsport]Mike,
Are you having the studs on ice again this year? I was there in my talon last year and had such a good time. Its too far to come out there for all the events but well worth it for the studs event.
-Bill[/QUOTE] Hello Bill,
Good to hear from you. :)
Yes, we have just set the date yesterday. I haven't even made any announcement about it yet. [b]You guys are the first to know![/b] :D
It will be on Saturday February 12th. It will be on Round Lake, in the town of Round Lake, NY. More details to come. We have a [b]"Studs on Ice" email list[/b] for this event. If there's anyone who'd like to sign up for it, send an email [[email�protected]][b]HERE[/b][/EMAIL] to get all of the up to the minute updates.
[IMG]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0816.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a pic I took of Bill at last year's event. :)
[COLOR=Black]For those who aren't aware, don't confuse the annual "Studs on Ice" event with our regular weekly wheel to wheel ice races in the Street Legal class being discussed on this thread. I will start a new thread when I offically announce the 2005 Studs on Ice event.[/COLOR]
Cheers,
Mike
Are you having the studs on ice again this year? I was there in my talon last year and had such a good time. Its too far to come out there for all the events but well worth it for the studs event.
-Bill[/QUOTE] Hello Bill,
Good to hear from you. :)
Yes, we have just set the date yesterday. I haven't even made any announcement about it yet. [b]You guys are the first to know![/b] :D
It will be on Saturday February 12th. It will be on Round Lake, in the town of Round Lake, NY. More details to come. We have a [b]"Studs on Ice" email list[/b] for this event. If there's anyone who'd like to sign up for it, send an email [[email�protected]][b]HERE[/b][/EMAIL] to get all of the up to the minute updates.
[IMG]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0816.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a pic I took of Bill at last year's event. :)
[COLOR=Black]For those who aren't aware, don't confuse the annual "Studs on Ice" event with our regular weekly wheel to wheel ice races in the Street Legal class being discussed on this thread. I will start a new thread when I offically announce the 2005 Studs on Ice event.[/COLOR]
Cheers,
Mike
| tw1zt1d | 11-30-2004 12:57 PM |
i think i might hafta bring my neon up there and "visit my grandparents" in utica this looks like fun alls u need is a a helmet and an extinguisher?
| Ice racer | 11-30-2004 01:44 PM |
[QUOTE=tw1zt1d]i think i might hafta bring my neon up there and "visit my grandparents" in utica this looks like fun alls u need is a helmet and an extinguisher?[/QUOTE] Pretty much. :) Actually, compared to any other form of automobile racing, it is [b]so easy[/b] to prep your car for A.M.E.C. ice racing, it's amazing.
The helmet needs to be a Snell 95 or better and the fire extinguisher needs to be at least a 2� lb dry-type extinguisher mounted in a fire extinguisher holder with a STEEL STRAP and LATCH. The plastic straps you get with a WalMart extinguisher are a joke. I have a WalMart extinguisher :D, but I bought a metal latch from my local hardware store. I didn't drill any holes in my car. I just used an existing hole in my console and used a longer screw.
If you'd like to read the complete rules. they are [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Rules2004.htm]HERE[/URL]. Keep in mind that 90% of them pertain to the full race Menard tire caged cars only. Not to the Street Legal class cars we are discussing here.
The helmet needs to be a Snell 95 or better and the fire extinguisher needs to be at least a 2� lb dry-type extinguisher mounted in a fire extinguisher holder with a STEEL STRAP and LATCH. The plastic straps you get with a WalMart extinguisher are a joke. I have a WalMart extinguisher :D, but I bought a metal latch from my local hardware store. I didn't drill any holes in my car. I just used an existing hole in my console and used a longer screw.
If you'd like to read the complete rules. they are [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Rules2004.htm]HERE[/URL]. Keep in mind that 90% of them pertain to the full race Menard tire caged cars only. Not to the Street Legal class cars we are discussing here.
| ratt_finkel | 12-02-2004 02:06 AM |
[QUOTE=turboICE]Stars aren't using their rink, right?[/QUOTE]
hahahahaha, this is true.
hahahahaha, this is true.
| Ice racer | 12-16-2004 04:51 PM |
Here's another possibility for those who want to get out on the ice, but don't have the experience or confidence to run door to door.
It's an annual event called the "Studs on Ice" and it is a solo time trial event [b]on the same huge frozen road race course![/b] We have it the day before our regular weekly wheel to wheel races. So if you're coming from out of state, you can run the "Studs" event on Saturday, stay overnight in a local motel and race in the Street Legal or Street Legal Unstudded classes on Sunday! You'll have the advantage of already knowing the track like the back of your hand. ;)
This year's event will be held on Saturday February 12th, on Round Lake in Round Lake, NY. Round Lake is about 20 minutes north of Albany, right off exit 11 of I-87 a.k.a. the "Northway". I will post a link to the actual event flyer shortly. It will have directions and motel info in it.
By the way, even though the event is called "Studs on Ice" [b]you are not required to have studded tires[/b]. But proper winter tires are almost mandatory, such as Bridgestone Blizzaks, Nokian Hakka Q's, Goodyear Ultra Grip, Michelin X-Ice, etc. Otherwise if you try to run all season or even regular summer tires, you will most likey end up needing to be pulled from a snow bank. Yes, all season tires are that bad on the ice. :rolleyes:
Take a look at last year's "Studs on Ice" results and pics [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-ice.htm]HERE[/URL].
Cheers,
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
It's an annual event called the "Studs on Ice" and it is a solo time trial event [b]on the same huge frozen road race course![/b] We have it the day before our regular weekly wheel to wheel races. So if you're coming from out of state, you can run the "Studs" event on Saturday, stay overnight in a local motel and race in the Street Legal or Street Legal Unstudded classes on Sunday! You'll have the advantage of already knowing the track like the back of your hand. ;)
This year's event will be held on Saturday February 12th, on Round Lake in Round Lake, NY. Round Lake is about 20 minutes north of Albany, right off exit 11 of I-87 a.k.a. the "Northway". I will post a link to the actual event flyer shortly. It will have directions and motel info in it.
By the way, even though the event is called "Studs on Ice" [b]you are not required to have studded tires[/b]. But proper winter tires are almost mandatory, such as Bridgestone Blizzaks, Nokian Hakka Q's, Goodyear Ultra Grip, Michelin X-Ice, etc. Otherwise if you try to run all season or even regular summer tires, you will most likey end up needing to be pulled from a snow bank. Yes, all season tires are that bad on the ice. :rolleyes:
Take a look at last year's "Studs on Ice" results and pics [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-ice.htm]HERE[/URL].
Cheers,
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
| TimStevens | 12-16-2004 05:17 PM |
It's going to be in round lake! You just made my day Mike, that's literally 2 mins away from me :)
| Ice racer | 12-16-2004 05:47 PM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens]It's going to be in round lake! You just made my day Mike, that's literally 2 mins away from me :)[/QUOTE] Is it?
Cool, how about rounding up some local motel info for me Tim? :p
Cool, how about rounding up some local motel info for me Tim? :p
| TimStevens | 12-16-2004 05:52 PM |
Sure, let's see... in Round Lake there's... absolutely nothing.
I'd imagine Clifton park is the place to stay. A bunch of new hotels on 146, and it's about a 5 min drive up rt. 9 to get to Round Lake from there. I can get some more info for ya if you'd like.
I'd imagine Clifton park is the place to stay. A bunch of new hotels on 146, and it's about a 5 min drive up rt. 9 to get to Round Lake from there. I can get some more info for ya if you'd like.
| voam | 12-16-2004 07:15 PM |
This looks like a lot of fun. I have been eyeing this for about 6 months now...
| akuhner | 12-17-2004 09:44 AM |
Mike - I love the date you picked for Studs! Gives me a weekend break after Sno*Drift! Count on me and a co-driver, and I'm also going to try and get Otis to bring the STI rally car.
Alex
Alex
| hillman | 12-17-2004 03:20 PM |
[quote]
We had a guy tow his RX7 all the way up from South Carolina last year. That's hard core!
[/quote]
I can beat that. Last year Michigan Ice Racing Association ( [url]http://www.michiganiceracingassociation.com[/url] ) had an anti-snowbird. Retired, and lives in Florida, but comes up to Michigan for the winter to ice race.
If you live in Michigan, Indiana, or parts of Illinois and Ohio and are interested in the same basic concept but with fewer rules, see the MIRA site or let me know.
[img]http://www.coochtek.com/mira/albums/04-02-22-MIRA-2/aaj.sized.jpg[/img]
You know you're sideways when you can look back up track at your chasers without using your mirrors!
We had a guy tow his RX7 all the way up from South Carolina last year. That's hard core!
[/quote]
I can beat that. Last year Michigan Ice Racing Association ( [url]http://www.michiganiceracingassociation.com[/url] ) had an anti-snowbird. Retired, and lives in Florida, but comes up to Michigan for the winter to ice race.
If you live in Michigan, Indiana, or parts of Illinois and Ohio and are interested in the same basic concept but with fewer rules, see the MIRA site or let me know.
[img]http://www.coochtek.com/mira/albums/04-02-22-MIRA-2/aaj.sized.jpg[/img]
You know you're sideways when you can look back up track at your chasers without using your mirrors!
| TimStevens | 12-17-2004 03:41 PM |
What's the setup like on that MR2? I wouldn't mind trying that sometime with mine, but I don't figure the Azenis would work very well.... unless I added some sheet metal screws to the equation :)
| hillman | 12-17-2004 04:27 PM |
I'd have to check my log to know for sure, but I'm either running Green Diamond Icelanders or Blizzak MZ-02s in that picture. I have a set of each, since they were so cheap, only $60/tire for either one. Unfortunately, Green Diamond prices have gone way up... I guess I told too many people about them. The MZ-02s are discontinued, but WS-50s work well, too.
Otherwise, that's a regular Solo2 MR2, with adjustable Konis, a bunch of front camber, and a TRD sway bar. Was my daily driver until I sold it in March. This year I'm running my new daily driver, a '91 Turbo. Set the shocks full-soft, let out some air from the tires, and have fun! [url=http://planet-torque.com/ms]In-car videos[/url] for those folks on the fence to check out.
I have a set of studded tires ( Kold Kutters, not screws ) for sale, that I bought from another guy with a '91 MR2. Used them last year, but probably won't this year.
Oh yeah Edit: For the folks in icy areas not yet mentioned, you may want to check [url=http://planet-torque.com/iceracing/world.html]this list of all the ice racing clubs I know of[/url]. If you know of one not listed there, please let me know, thanks.
[img]http://www.coochtek.com/mira/albums/04-02-22-MIRA-2/abp.sized.jpg[/img]
Doesn't that look like fun?
Otherwise, that's a regular Solo2 MR2, with adjustable Konis, a bunch of front camber, and a TRD sway bar. Was my daily driver until I sold it in March. This year I'm running my new daily driver, a '91 Turbo. Set the shocks full-soft, let out some air from the tires, and have fun! [url=http://planet-torque.com/ms]In-car videos[/url] for those folks on the fence to check out.
I have a set of studded tires ( Kold Kutters, not screws ) for sale, that I bought from another guy with a '91 MR2. Used them last year, but probably won't this year.
Oh yeah Edit: For the folks in icy areas not yet mentioned, you may want to check [url=http://planet-torque.com/iceracing/world.html]this list of all the ice racing clubs I know of[/url]. If you know of one not listed there, please let me know, thanks.
[img]http://www.coochtek.com/mira/albums/04-02-22-MIRA-2/abp.sized.jpg[/img]
Doesn't that look like fun?
| TimStevens | 12-17-2004 04:54 PM |
Yep, it does :cool:
| D. Romanucci | 12-17-2004 11:06 PM |
Man this looks great! I want in!
| lowendfrequency | 12-18-2004 12:46 PM |
I'd love to get down on this but I don't feel comfortable racing wheel to wheel with other vehicles. I don't trust myself and I definatly don't trust other drivers. Is there any solo time trial events?
| turboICE | 12-18-2004 12:52 PM |
Here you go.
[QUOTE=Ice racer on 12/16]Here's another possibility for those who want to get out on the ice, but don't have the experience or confidence to run door to door.
It's an annual event called the "Studs on Ice" and it is a solo time trial event [b]on the same huge frozen road race course![/b] We have it the day before our regular weekly wheel to wheel races. So if you're coming from out of state, you can run the "Studs" event on Saturday, stay overnight in a local motel and race in the Street Legal or Street Legal Unstudded classes on Sunday! You'll have the advantage of already knowing the track like the back of your hand. ;)
This year's event will be held on Saturday February 12th, on Round Lake in Round Lake, NY. Round Lake is about 20 minutes north of Albany, right off exit 11 of I-87 a.k.a. the "Northway". I will post a link to the actual event flyer shortly. It will have directions and motel info in it.
By the way, even though the event is called "Studs on Ice" [b]you are not required to have studded tires[/b]. But proper winter tires are almost mandatory, such as Bridgestone Blizzaks, Nokian Hakka Q's, Goodyear Ultra Grip, Michelin X-Ice, etc. Otherwise if you try to run all season or even regular summer tires, you will most likey end up needing to be pulled from a snow bank. Yes, all season tires are that bad on the ice. :rolleyes:
Take a look at last year's "Studs on Ice" results and pics [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-ice.htm]HERE[/URL].
Cheers,
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ice racer on 12/16]Here's another possibility for those who want to get out on the ice, but don't have the experience or confidence to run door to door.
It's an annual event called the "Studs on Ice" and it is a solo time trial event [b]on the same huge frozen road race course![/b] We have it the day before our regular weekly wheel to wheel races. So if you're coming from out of state, you can run the "Studs" event on Saturday, stay overnight in a local motel and race in the Street Legal or Street Legal Unstudded classes on Sunday! You'll have the advantage of already knowing the track like the back of your hand. ;)
This year's event will be held on Saturday February 12th, on Round Lake in Round Lake, NY. Round Lake is about 20 minutes north of Albany, right off exit 11 of I-87 a.k.a. the "Northway". I will post a link to the actual event flyer shortly. It will have directions and motel info in it.
By the way, even though the event is called "Studs on Ice" [b]you are not required to have studded tires[/b]. But proper winter tires are almost mandatory, such as Bridgestone Blizzaks, Nokian Hakka Q's, Goodyear Ultra Grip, Michelin X-Ice, etc. Otherwise if you try to run all season or even regular summer tires, you will most likey end up needing to be pulled from a snow bank. Yes, all season tires are that bad on the ice. :rolleyes:
Take a look at last year's "Studs on Ice" results and pics [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-ice.htm]HERE[/URL].
Cheers,
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP[/QUOTE]
| Ice racer | 12-18-2004 03:05 PM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens]Sure, let's see... in Round Lake there's... absolutely nothing.
I'd imagine Clifton park is the place to stay. A bunch of new hotels on 146, and it's about a 5 min drive up rt. 9 to get to Round Lake from there. I can get some more info for ya if you'd like.[/QUOTE] Yes, Clifton Park is what I had in mind. That would be much appreciated Tim! :)
I'd imagine Clifton park is the place to stay. A bunch of new hotels on 146, and it's about a 5 min drive up rt. 9 to get to Round Lake from there. I can get some more info for ya if you'd like.[/QUOTE] Yes, Clifton Park is what I had in mind. That would be much appreciated Tim! :)
| Ice racer | 12-18-2004 03:13 PM |
[QUOTE=Car #187]Mike - I love the date you picked for Studs! Gives me a weekend break after Sno*Drift! Count on me and a co-driver, and I'm also going to try and get Otis to bring the STI rally car.
Alex[/QUOTE] Sounds great Alex!
..and having Otis' rally car running with us will be the icing on the cake! [IMG]http://www.v8buick.com/images/smilies/xyxthumbs.gif[/IMG]
Alex[/QUOTE] Sounds great Alex!
..and having Otis' rally car running with us will be the icing on the cake! [IMG]http://www.v8buick.com/images/smilies/xyxthumbs.gif[/IMG]
| Ice racer | 12-18-2004 03:18 PM |
[QUOTE=lowendfrequency]I'd love to get down on this but I don't feel comfortable racing wheel to wheel with other vehicles. I don't trust myself and I definatly don't trust other drivers. Is there any solo time trial events?[/QUOTE] Is your STi you [i]only[/i] car? No winter or second car? :confused:
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