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STX Mods: Present and future - list 'em! part 1

WRX450 08-20-2003 09:50 PM

STX Mods: Present and future - list 'em!
Wanted to get some input about what others are doing out there in STX. I am in my 2nd year of autocrossing and taking the mods at a relatively easy pace as I progress as a driver. Here's what I currently have:

17x7 Flik Lex w/ Falken Azenis
Borla Cat Back Exhaust
Koni inserts
*Ground Control Springs (325/300)
*Noltec Camber/Caster plates - front
K&N drop in air filter
Sti Short Throw Shifter
*StopTech Slotted Rotors
*Carbotech Bobcats front, Axxis Ultimates rear
*Goodridge Stainless Steel Lines
*Motul Race Brake Fluid
Borla Header
*Perrin Uppipe
*Buschur Hi-Flow Cat Downpipe
*Perrin adjustable rear swaybar
*Whiteline Solid Endlinks
Schroth Rallye 4 Harness
*Perrin Crank Pulley
Falken Azenis 225 45 17

*= new this year

Thanks!
Curt
#450 STX - Chicago/TSSCC/Milwaukee (and anywhere else that will take me! :lol: )
thechickencow 08-20-2003 10:05 PM

I think this is pretty much it:
16x7 98 RS wheels, Bridgestone 225/50/16 s03's
godspeed uppipe, scoobysport downpipe, straightpipe
whiteline rear sway, whiteline endlinks
sti RA springs, kyb AGX struts
axxis ultimates, goodridge lines, motul fluid
STi motor/tranny mounts

I feel like I'm forgetting something, but thats the basic stuff.

Jay
#213 STX in the milwaukee area

edit: See you Sunday Curt!
WRX450 08-20-2003 11:06 PM

Alright!
Do you notice a big gain in HP with the uppipe/downpipe? We can discuss on Sunday... Ideally I want to be able to take my dad in the quarter mile in his '95 LT-1 Vette. (305 hp) Call it a pipe dream...but I want to be able to do it and stay STX legal...that's the toughie.

We'll see!
Curt
KC 08-21-2003 07:48 AM

Re: Alright!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRX450 [/i]
[B]Do you notice a big gain in HP with the uppipe/downpipe? We can discuss on Sunday... Ideally I want to be able to take my dad in the quarter mile in his '95 LT-1 Vette. (305 hp) Call it a pipe dream...but I want to be able to do it and stay STX legal...that's the toughie.

We'll see!
Curt [/B][/QUOTE]Good luck! Without upping the boost, it'll continue to be a pipe dream. :D

Here's my stuff:
[url]http://www.rallydecals.com/rallydecals/kccar/mods.html[/url]

(I have to update the spring rates but probably won't be able to get around to it until after nationals)

--kC
trhoppe 08-21-2003 09:50 AM

Wagons suck

That is all :lol:

[URL=http://66.57.74.93/boxer4racing]My mods[/URL] <- clickie

-Tom
MNbiker 08-21-2003 12:53 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B]Wagons suck

That is all :lol:

[URL=http://66.57.74.93/boxer4racing]My mods[/URL] <- clickie

-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]

[B]Wagonz Rule![/B]

Hey Tom, wasn't that a wagon I witnessed winning the Peru ProSolo?
:banana:

My mod list isn't online at present, but reads pretty similar to KC's, except for:
JIC FLT-A2 coilovers with 7kg springs F/R
ECUTek reflash with User Tune for fuel & timing

-Steve
zosima 08-21-2003 12:56 PM

Wagons rule! (I have your back, KC)

current mods:
Azenis on Prodrive P7s
Engine, transimission mounts
Whiteline rear strut bar
Whiteline extra heavy duty rear adjustable swaybar + links + mounts
Schorth Ralleye III harness
kartboy shifter bushing

on order:
MRT adjustable front swaybar + links
Scoobysport muffler, uppipe

Future (next year, hopefully):
Perrin downpipe w/cat (NOBODY has the old one, the new one is supposed to come out around Christmas)
unichip
Tien RA coilovers
WRX450 08-21-2003 01:04 PM

Christmas you say?!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zosima [/i]
Future (next year, hopefully):
Perrin downpipe w/cat (NOBODY has the old one, the new one is supposed to come out around Christmas)
[/QUOTE]

I am experiencing the trouble finding this, but I should just stop looking and wait until Christmas! I know what I'm getting for our national spending holiday.... ;)

Curt
thrdeye 08-21-2003 01:04 PM

I have also kept my mods rather mild, but seem to fare pretty well comparativley with teh rest of my class as well as everyone else.

215/45/16 Azenis on stock WRX wheels
Gutted stock up pipe.
prodrive springs
cusco rear adj. swaybar
prodrive aero pack
04 USDM STi muffler

PLANNED(these will eventually make me say bye bye to STX):

prodrive intercooler y-pipe
better pads, rotors and fluid (undecided)
STi TMIC
STi short throw shifter

would eventually like to do a prodrive power pack at level 3 ($$$$$$) and prodrive/HKS coilovers (more $$$$$$)
STX_REX 08-21-2003 01:53 PM

Current:

17"X7.5" Rota Tarmacs (Heavy but Cheap)
225X45 Azenis Sports (Heavy but Cheap)
Pro-Drive Springs
Whiteline Adj. Sways Front and Rear
Whiteline Rear Strut Brace
APS Turbo Back

Up Next:

AGX Struts

Maybe Soon:

Camber/Castor Plates
Rear End Links
Legal Engine Managemnet

Later,
thechickencow 08-21-2003 02:20 PM

I've got this list here...forgot about it earlier.

[url]http://www.kr4d.com/~tcc/stuff/modlist2.txt[/url] (not all on the car)

And yes Curt I felt a pretty good difference with uppipe and downpipe.
WRX450 08-21-2003 02:28 PM

FYI
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by thechickencow [/i]
[B]I've got this list here...forgot about it earlier.

[url]http://www.kr4d.com/~tcc/stuff/modlist2.txt[/url] (not all on the car)

And yes Curt I felt a pretty good difference with uppipe and downpipe. [/B][/QUOTE]

Jay,
Just to help you avoid further complications - people who are driven to win at all costs may protest your Samco hoses...I heard that they aren't legal, but I could be wrong. Locally you shouldn't have any trouble, but going to a large event someone might get their undies in a bunch...:rolleyes:

Looking forward to seeing the car!
Curt
thechickencow 08-21-2003 02:38 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by thechickencow [/i]
[B][url]http://www.kr4d.com/~tcc/stuff/modlist2.txt[/url] (not all on the car) [/B][/QUOTE]

See the ^^^ (not all on the car part?) ;)

I try not to run illegally. I don't really think the gains I'd get from the samcos will be worth the possibility of protest (if I even drive well enough for it to matter). I have (and probably will) run the bov recirc hose and the tb hose though, they are the exact shape/size as the stock hoses.

tcc
WRX450 08-21-2003 02:45 PM

Oops! I'm a n00b!
Sorry about that! I have problems focusing...must be the parts on order! Ha!

I didn't mean it in a bad way - I wouldn't have know it if one of the Chicago STXers pointed it out on someone else's car...just trying to inform if you didn't know.

I don't really care what mods people have - mostly because they all seem to have more than me! :lol: I just like competing against WRXs instead of all the other cars. It's just more fun.

Curt (the mod n00b who can't read :huh: )
zosima 08-21-2003 02:59 PM

Re: FYI
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRX450 [/i]
[B]

Jay,
Just to help you avoid further complications - people who are driven to win at all costs may protest your Samco hoses...I heard that they aren't legal, but I could be wrong. Locally you shouldn't have any trouble, but going to a large event someone might get their undies in a bunch...:rolleyes:

Looking forward to seeing the car!
Curt [/B][/QUOTE]

I *think* the downpipe might be illegal too. The rule reads "Multiple catalytic converters may be [B]replaced[/B] by a single unit, provided the single unit is within six inches of the original primary unit. " (My emphasis). I read this to mean only running one of the factory cats is STX illegal, as nothing was replaced. Hopefully someone could clarify (because I might change my order to use the scoobysport dp if that is legal :) )
Orion 08-21-2003 03:00 PM

My next mod will be 245/45-16 Victoracers on Enkei Tarmac ES 16x8s.
KC 08-21-2003 03:29 PM

Re: Re: FYI
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zosima [/i]
[B]

I *think* the downpipe might be illegal too. The rule reads "Multiple catalytic converters may be [B]replaced[/B] by a single unit, provided the single unit is within six inches of the original primary unit. " (My emphasis). I read this to mean only running one of the factory cats is STX illegal, as nothing was replaced. Hopefully someone could clarify (because I might change my order to use the scoobysport dp if that is legal :) ) [/B][/QUOTE]Cleared up in the Fastracks. Cat can be anywhere up to 6" past the exit of the last cat. (They want to avoid using the cat as a muffler). :D

--KC
zosima 08-21-2003 03:57 PM

Re: FYI
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC [/i]
[B]Cleared up in the Fastracks. Cat can be anywhere up to 6" past the exit of the last cat. (They want to avoid using the cat as a muffler). :D

--KC [/B][/QUOTE]

I thought they cleared up the location, but does the Fastrack actually mention if it has to be replaced or if you just have to have any cat (including OEM) up to 6" past the exit of the last cat? I am a little confused since the rule begins with saying "High flow catalytic converters are allowed", and I am not sure if that implies that one of the n OEM cats are to be considered "High flow." Also, with the replacement wording, I read deleting (n-1) cats is not legal. What would be legal, as I read it, so to have a dedicated high flow cat replace 1 to n of the OEM cats, so long as it replaces it/them within 6" of where last OEM cat was when the car left the factory. If I am correct, even an uppipe gutting would be illegal, unfortunately, unless a high flow cat was added somewhere in the picture.
KC 08-21-2003 05:04 PM

[QUOTE]7. Street Touring: The second sentence of 17.11.A.6 is clarified to read as follows:
"Multiple catalytic converters may be replaced by a single unit. The inlet of the single replacement converter may be located no further downstream than 6" along the piping flow path from the original exit of the final OE converter."[/QUOTE]

Clears all that up rather nicely. Since the inception of the original rule, it was protested as being too vague. This replacement answers any and all doubts about the rule and what it was meant to be.

--kC
robp 08-21-2003 06:03 PM

My list:
Rota Attacks with 225/45-17 Azenis
Cusco F/R sway bars
Perrin end links (rear bar)
Koni struts
Prodrive springs
Perrin pulley
Turboxs turbo back exhaust
Gutted uppipe

I don't have a trunk monkey, which must explain why I'm so slow.
:alien:
zosima 08-21-2003 06:36 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC [/i]
[B]

Clears all that up rather nicely. Since the inception of the original rule, it was protested as being too vague. This replacement answers any and all doubts about the rule and what it was meant to be.

--kC [/B][/QUOTE]

First, thanks for explaining this to me! So you are saying that I am taking the word "replacement" too literally? Perhaps I am obtuse, but even in the clarification I am reading that a new, non-OEM cat must be present, and that deleting any cats without putting in a replacement would be illegal.

I am also curious if anyone who competes in STX has changed their boost at all. Yes, that is clearly illegal, but I was wondering if there was an viable solutions for running higher boost on the street and then changing something for AutoX. The easiest solution would be a swap-out ECU, but that is clearly not cheap. Ideas?

Oh, well, if KC can convince me you can expect me to get the Scoobysport DP instead of the Perrin :)
thechickencow 08-21-2003 07:40 PM

I think you are taking "replace" too literally. It says "[B]may[/B] be replaced", not 'must be replaced'.

Boost levels differ slightly from car to car with mods(up/dp), but boost control isn't ok in any form. I've got a MBC that I sometimes put on on the street but haven't had on for about a year. That is probably the easiest way to swap it out for autox/street. Swapping ecu's sucks IMO because it takes time for the ecu to relearn your driving style and adjust.

tcc
KC 08-21-2003 08:49 PM

(Cars with) Multiple CatCons can be replaced by one CatCon.
This one replacement cat con must start no later than 6" further than where the last OEM CatCon exits. (It means this CatCon can be ANYWHERE in the exhaust stream. Want to keep the one on your uppipe and go free turbo back? It's legal. As long as when you put this new cat anywhere, it's got to start no further than 6" beyond where the last CatCon in the line was.

Maybe that helps?

Raising (or lowering) boost through any ECU or controller (profec-B/MBC, etc...) is not legal. <- note the period at the end of that line.

An MBC would be the only one that you can add and take out easily.
zosima 08-21-2003 09:25 PM

Okay, KC wins :). I admit the wording is still a little bit ambigious to me, but I am a novice with 0 experience interpreting such rules. I also wanted to be sure that I wouldn't spend a lot of money on something I couldn't autocross (The road-use boost control was more of a musing... I really want to get everything on my STX shopping list first).

Anyways, thanks to KC and thechickencow; the order for the Scoobysport downpipe goes in tommorrow!
angryfist 08-22-2003 12:27 AM

My STX WRX...

[url]http://www.crazymonkeyracing.com/[/url]

-Jason
ChrisW 08-22-2003 11:56 AM

My setup is as follows.
[list][*] Rota subzeros running Azenis 225/45/17[*] DMS 50 street length coilovers 225f 180r (spring rates will change on of these days)[*] Vishnu turbo-back exhaust[*] Vishnu uppipe[*] Vishnu pulley[*] Vishnu ECUTEK reflash custom tuned for STX rules[*] cusco strut bars (front & rear)[*] MRT camber caster plates[*] whiteline swaybars (rear adjustable)[*] scroth rally 4 harness.[/list]
For the future (hopefully next season)
[list][*] exhaust header[*] user tunable piggyback ECU (off the shelf or my own design, either way it's gonna happen) [*] whiteline offset bushings for the front control arms[*] Sparco Evo seats (driver & passenger )[*] roll bar that preserves rear seat access to some degree.[*] gauges and datalogging equipment.[/list]
trhoppe 08-22-2003 12:02 PM

[QUOTE]whiteline offset bushings for the front control arms[/QUOTE] :confused:
Dussander 08-22-2003 12:20 PM

My mods:
Rota Attacks with 245/40-17 Kumho MXs or
SSR Comps with 245/40-17 BFG KDs

..
..

I guess I need to start putting my parts back on my new car. :D First I need to clear out the old car to get some garage space.
STX_REX 08-22-2003 12:23 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B] :confused: [/B][/QUOTE]

He's either talking ALK in code, or perhaps white line is going to make an STX legal ALK by keeping the bushing location stock, and off setting the hole in a firmer material.
trhoppe 08-22-2003 12:24 PM

[QUOTE]perhaps white line is going to make an STX legal ALK by keeping the bushing location stock, and off setting the hole in a firmer material[/QUOTE] Thats what I was curious about, I just don't see how you could make this STX legal.....

-Tom
ChrisW 08-22-2003 12:32 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B] :confused: [/B][/QUOTE]

[url]ftp://ftp.whiteline.com.au/Images/Product/KCA375_03.jpg[/url]


[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=393995[/url]

part number #KCA375

ALK without the illegal mount anyone?
:banana:
KC 08-22-2003 12:53 PM

Nice find. Offset bushings.... stock mounting.

Suspension bushings may be replaced with bushings of any materials (except metal) as long as they fit in the original location. Offset bushings may be used.

--KC
trhoppe 08-22-2003 01:03 PM

Exxcelent :devil:

because 6 degrees of caster is not enough :lol:

-Tom
zosima 08-22-2003 01:38 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ChrisW [/i]
[B]

part number #KCA375

ALK without the illegal mount anyone?
[/B][/QUOTE]

Ooooooh... add on of those to the list to.... this thread has been very bad for my wallet :)
WRX450 08-22-2003 02:05 PM

Wallet buster!
Wasn't my intention to make large holes in people's pockets - mostly to see what it takes to even compete in STX. DEEP POCKETS and good driving - not just deep pockets. I have been decently competitive locally with very few mods, most coming this year - last year I had 17" wheels and tires only and consistently finished 1 position out of trophies. (Usually 3 trophies) Everyone in Chicago has more mods than me (or did), so the driving makes a HUGE difference.

Just a thought I had... ;)
Curt
zosima 08-22-2003 02:29 PM

Re: Wallet buster!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRX450 [/i]
[B]Wasn't my intention to make large holes in people's pockets[/B][/QUOTE]

Well, its the car, not the driver of course.... I am just X dollars away from winning nationals *grin*. Unfortunately I have KC in my region to show me exactly how fast someone could go in roughly the same car, so I can't cling to that theory as much as I would like ;). The only thing I don't like is balancing the desire for consistency in my car to ensure that I am improving vs. the desire to get all the mods over with quickly so I get the most possible use out of them. Overall I do have to say that I really like STX and where the SCCA is going... I really like that I can show up with my daily driver, just mess a little with tire pressure, and then race. I don't know what I would do if the street tire classes were abondoned. Plus the class lets you do enough stuff to your car that you can mod it, without having to compete against people with insanely autocross prepped cars. Anyways, good thread!
STX_REX 08-22-2003 02:46 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ChrisW [/i]
[B]

[url]ftp://ftp.whiteline.com.au/Images/Product/KCA375_03.jpg[/url]


[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=393995[/url]

part number #KCA375

ALK without the illegal mount anyone?
:banana: [/B][/QUOTE]


I just looked at the picture, isn't there some thing in the rule about the ratio of metal to non-metal must be the same, or is that just engine and tranny mounts?

I'm going to look


I Just Looked...
17.8

B.
Suspension bushings may be replaced with bushings of any materials (except metal) as long as they fit in the original location. Offset bushings may be used. In a replacement bushing the amount of metal relative to the amount of non-metallic material may not be increased. This does not authorize a change in type of bushing (for example ball and socket replacing a cylindrical bushing), or use of a bushing with an angled hole whose direction differs from that of the original bushing. If the Stock bushing accommodated multi-axis motion via compliance of the component material(s), the replacement bushing may not be changed to accomodate such motion via a change in bushing type, for example to a spherical bearing or similar component involving internal moving parts. Pins or keys may be used to prevent the rotation of alternate bushings, but may serve no other purpose than that of retaining the bushing in the desired position.
KC 08-22-2003 02:54 PM

I've spent almost the same amount of money on the car this year as I have travelling to national events, entry fees, lodging and food for those events, up to and including nationals.

What kind of car would I have if I never did national events?
ergo...
What kind of driver would I be if I never did national events?

See? :)

Just in gas, towing the car, after nationals, it would be about $1,500 this year for fuel.

There are times I just say I wish I could drive my car to events... but being so far away from home, if something breaks? I can't get home that easily. ;)

Yeah, it's not cheap, this sport, unless you stick to local events, or just drive your car. But where's the fun in that? :D

We do this for fun... we do this for fun... we do this for fun...
KC 08-22-2003 02:56 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by STX_REX [/i]
[B]I just looked at the picture, isn't there some thing in the rule about the ratio of metal to non-metal must be the same, or is that just engine and tranny mounts?

I'm going to look

I Just Looked...

*SNIP*[/B][/QUOTE]

So what's your take on it vs. the rule?

My take on it is it's legal because the bushing itself is not metal.

--kC
trhoppe 08-22-2003 02:57 PM

I dunno about you but I do this for the f'in SOCIAL ASPECT of it.............

:lol:

-Tom
STX_REX 08-22-2003 03:10 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC [/i]
[B]

So what's your take on it vs. the rule?

My take on it is it's legal because the bushing itself is not metal.

--kC [/B][/QUOTE]

If I drove an Integra,:lol: , I would say its illegal because you have increased the amount of metal relative to non-metal. I dont think the stock unit has the outer metalic sleeve. If it does then I would say legal no doubt.
MNbiker 08-22-2003 03:12 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B]I dunno about you but I do this for the f'in SOCIAL ASPECT of it.............

:lol:

-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]

Tom,

You been reading those SCCA brochures again?:lol: :lol: :lol:

p.s. And remember, it's a "driving skills contest" not racing!:p
ChrisW 08-22-2003 03:23 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by STX_REX [/i]
[B]


I just looked at the picture, isn't there some thing in the rule about the ratio of metal to non-metal must be the same, or is that just engine and tranny mounts?

I'm going to look


I Just Looked...
17.8

B.
Suspension bushings may be replaced with bushings of any materials (except metal) as long as they fit in the original location. Offset bushings may be used. In a replacement bushing the amount of metal relative to the amount of non-metallic material may not be increased. This does not authorize a change in type of bushing (for example ball and socket replacing a cylindrical bushing), or use of a bushing with an angled hole whose direction differs from that of the original bushing. If the Stock bushing accommodated multi-axis motion via compliance of the component material(s), the replacement bushing may not be changed to accomodate such motion via a change in bushing type, for example to a spherical bearing or similar component involving internal moving parts. Pins or keys may be used to prevent the rotation of alternate bushings, but may serve no other purpose than that of retaining the bushing in the desired position. [/B][/QUOTE]

yeah I am aware of that issue. But I don't think the ratio of metel to bushing material changes too much if at all. It really depends on how the stock bushing is constructed. If you go up to the whiteline store the catalog image does not show the external collar that you see in the first image link.

[IMG]http://www.whiteline.com.au/store/images/products/E11.jpg[/IMG]

so who knows.. just have to order a set and figure it out from there.
Achilles38WRX 08-22-2003 04:01 PM

curt already knows these:
my mods:

EDM 17" wheels
225/45 Falken Azenis
Perrrin up-pipe
Leda 'B' coilovers (std springs, 300 front, 250 rear, i think, could be wrong)
goodrich lines
motul fluid
axxis ultimate pads
sti group n motor mounts and trans mount
custom lightweight crank pulley
some gauges for eye candy
trunk monkey
peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for lunch :huh:
"no cone" magnet
speed dents in hood
water sprayer for hot grill, i mean, intercooler, and tires
WRX450 08-25-2003 04:12 PM

Re: curt already knows these:
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Achilles38WRX [/i]
[B]my mods:
peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for lunch :huh:
water sprayer for hot grill, i mean, intercooler, and tires [/B][/QUOTE]

Dude, you need to bring burgers for the grill! Those PB&Js are too much sugar! :lol:

It's a good start...I'm gonna catch you eventually! ;)
awoland 08-25-2003 09:43 PM

My STX WRX:

'04 Sedan:

Currently on the car:
------------------------------------------------
Cusco adjustable Rear Sway Bar
Kartboy short shifter & bushings
17" OZ Prodrive P1's
Bridgestone Pole Position S01 (225/45ZR17)
STi front Strut Tower Bar
K&N Drop-in Filter

Owned but not on car for another 2 weeks or so:
----------------------------------------------------
STi Rear Sway Bar
STi-7 Struts/Springs (purchased from JagCars26)
Carbotech Bobcat Front Brakes
Slotted Front Rotors
ATE Blue High Temp Brake Fluid
Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings

Future Mods:
------------------------------
SS Brake Lines
More suspension stuff ;)


I think that's it,

A.
ChrisW 08-28-2003 11:03 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by STX_REX [/i]
[B]


I just looked at the picture, isn't there some thing in the rule about the ratio of metal to non-metal must be the same, or is that just engine and tranny mounts?

I'm going to look


I Just Looked...
17.8

B.
Suspension bushings may be replaced with bushings of any materials (except metal) as long as they fit in the original location. Offset bushings may be used. In a replacement bushing the amount of metal relative to the amount of non-metallic material may not be increased. This does not authorize a change in type of bushing (for example ball and socket replacing a cylindrical bushing), or use of a bushing with an angled hole whose direction differs from that of the original bushing. If the Stock bushing accommodated multi-axis motion via compliance of the component material(s), the replacement bushing may not be changed to accomodate such motion via a change in bushing type, for example to a spherical bearing or similar component involving internal moving parts. Pins or keys may be used to prevent the rotation of alternate bushings, but may serve no other purpose than that of retaining the bushing in the desired position. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey, check out this thread...
[URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=3763340]Whiteline Subframe Bushing Kit And Steering Rack Bushing Install

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WL Flatout [/i]
[B]G'day everyone,

I_H8_1.8, Brian is correct. The ALK incorporates a replacement low compliance caster adjusting LCA bush already. That's one of the side benefits to the kit apart from the changes to anti-lift properties.

There are a number of options in the ALK range depending on bush compliance and ride/NVH expectations. That is, you can order with a relatively soft bush, normal and extra hard motorsport. There is no objective right or wrong to this but some people find the motorsport version perfectly acceptable while the comfort version was created for those that found the normal type too harsh.

[i]As for a replacment LCA product to suit SCCA etc, we have just created part numbers and data for following:[/i]

Part # KCA375
Lower control arm-low compliance caster adj. bush +0.5 deg static. A$117.27 kit

Part # KCA375M
Lower control arm-ultra low compliance caster adj. bush +0.5 deg static - Motorsport version in BLACK. A$126.36 kit

These should be avialable in 3-4 weeks.
...

Hope that clears up all outstanding issues.

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline [/B][/QUOTE]
[/URL]
Looks totally legal :banana:


Great job Whiteline!!!!
trhoppe 08-28-2003 11:12 AM

Anything that is "ultra-low compliance" sounds PERFECT for my car :)

I guess I will do this bushing as well as all the rear bushings in the offseason.

-Tom
AUTOwrXER 08-29-2003 11:16 AM

Quick question. Is the pitch stop mount considered an engine mount? I'd like to replace that if it's legal.

Joel
MNbiker 08-29-2003 04:44 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AUTOwrXER [/i]
[B]Quick question. Is the pitch stop mount considered an engine mount? I'd like to replace that if it's legal.

Joel [/B][/QUOTE]

Yep, legal. The rules allow alternate "motor mounts and/or engine locators (bobble struts)". The pitch stop falls under the engine locator part of the allowance.

-Steve
angryfist 09-01-2003 10:07 AM

quick question.

is the Unorthodox Racing Pully Kit which replaces all 3 pullys legal?

Tom: do you have the whole kit or jsut the underdrive crank pully?

thanks,
Jason
trhoppe 09-01-2003 10:25 AM

The whole kit is legal and I do have the whole kit.

-Tom
BIGSKYWRX 09-02-2003 12:51 AM

Turn- Pirelli P Zero Nero's 225/50/16 on TE37's(16X7), STi RA springs/struts, Noltec caster/camber plates, Sti rear tops, Sti 19mm front sway, Cusco 19.5-21.5mm (GC8) rear sway, Kartboy sway link bushings (don't make any more), STi titanium (read bling!) front strut bar, Sti motor/tranny mounts, STi Grp N lateral link, trailing link bushings, Noltec steering rack bushings

Stop- DBA two piece front rotors, H6 rear rotors, oe calipers, Ferodo DS2500 pads (f/r), Goodridge lines, Motul fluid

Go- STi uppipe, ScoobySport downpipe, 3rd oe cat, ScoobySport cat back, ITG filter, silencer elbow, Ecutek STX reflash

Next year- 245/45/16's on 16X8 TE37's, STi adj struts w/ their new springs (252/217 ft lbs)- a guy has to have a dream.

Big Sky
trhoppe 09-02-2003 09:27 AM

[QUOTE]Noltec steering rack bushings[/QUOTE] SM baby :)
There has been a protest about these that has gone the wrong way for the protestee, so there is a precedent. I would remove these for any national events. The reason I mention it, is that I had to replace mine and had to go get the damn stock ones....... :furious:

-Tom
KC 09-02-2003 09:35 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B] SM baby :)
There has been a protest about these that has gone the wrong way for the protestee, so there is a precedent. I would remove these for any national events. The reason I mention it, is that I had to replace mine and had to go get the damn stock ones....... :furious:

-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]Correct. The steering rack is not part of the suspension and suspension bushings are the only ones that may be replaced according to the rules.

The rules say nothing about modifying the steering/assemblies associated with the steering.
ChrisW 09-02-2003 10:27 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe [/i]
[B] SM baby :)
There has been a protest about these that has gone the wrong way for the protestee, so there is a precedent. I would remove these for any national events. The reason I mention it, is that I had to replace mine and had to go get the damn stock ones....... :furious:

-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]

FWIW, I hear the whiteline group-N steering rack bushing are black...;)
STX_REX 09-02-2003 01:14 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ChrisW [/i]
[B]

FWIW, I hear the whiteline group-N steering rack bushing are black...;) [/B][/QUOTE]

Thats just wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p
BIGSKYWRX 09-02-2003 11:29 PM

The damn Noltec ones are blue! The driver's side was an amazing feat of dexterity to get in too. Looks like the Whiteline ones, err I mean the oe ones;)

Big Sky
ChrisW 09-03-2003 12:23 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BIGSKYWRX [/i]
[B]The damn Noltec ones are blue! The driver's side was an amazing feat of dexterity to get in too. Looks like the Whiteline ones, err I mean the oe ones;)

Big Sky [/B][/QUOTE]

my "oe" replacements will be on the car before too long..:alien:
Scooby South 09-03-2003 12:49 AM

STX Now....SM Later

Lets see...
MY00 RS cpe...Mostly suspension stuff

LEDA Option B Coilovers
JIC Camber Plates Front
Rear Strut Bar
Whiteline 20-24 Adj ...(set at 22)
KartBoy Original rear Endlinks (Spherical bearing)
Whiteline Front Endlinks
Stock RS front Bar
Grp N Bushing Kit
STi Engine mounts
STi Tranny mount
STi Pitchstop rod
STi Rear tophats
Stainless Brake lines
Perrin/Wilwood 4 Pot fronts
Cryro Treated WRX Rotors
Performance Friction Race pads
MRT Brake Bracket
Motul Fluid
Stock Rear Brakes

215/45/16 Azenis Sport on Stock RS rims

At the time motor mods were Catback Exhaust, Nology Wires/plugs, homemade intake, TPS mod ;) *don't even ask*...I ain't tellin ya...

SM trim...Now
Same as above with the following exceptions:

WRX Brake booster/ master cylinder
2.0 WRX engine swap
ACT Clutch
STi Braided Clutch line
Motul Clutch fluid...(RBF 600...same as brake fluid)
UTEC
Up-pipe
BPM Turbo Back Exhaust
Intake
Perrin Inlet pipe
Perrin I/C hoses
DeadBolt Monstor TD04
16.5 lbs of boost
cryro treated RS gearset
Quaife Front LSD
WRX Stock 19mm front bar
Rear Bar up to 24mm now
Also have Bobcat pads to install on Front Brakes...and another set of stockers for the rear...


coming soon
225/50/16 Stickys'....;)

Should be decent...at least locally..have to see how it does against some of the big dogs


Bill

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