| HM3SC | 10-16-2001 07:49 PM |
The search for 6000k (purple) HID kits.
I think (hope) i have finally found a true 6000k purple hid (xenon) kit. It should arrive Friday.
I have tried and seen Philips 4350k, Hella kits, Bellof (4000k) and Osram. None of these were up to my expectations of audi/porsche color headlight output.
Philips "claims" to be offering a 6000k light bulb - can be bought in the US only from [url]www.hids4less.com[/url] and cost $794.99. Quite a price difference from the regular philips kit selling for $450-600. But from seeing these myself....they are also pure white output. Even the Philips light fourms confirm this.
The kit i ordered are suppose to be the BEST out there. The bulb is being made by a US company, and ballast by a Japanese company (will disclose if if they prove to be all that). They do not use the standard Philips D2S/D2R, which causes poor beam pattern and color output when installed on non OEM hid headlights. Also, note that Philips ballast are being made in Taiwan and Korea, with the made in Germany sticker on them.
This kit uses the same concept as Bellof but at half the price - using a custom base to ensure correct beam pattern. The replacement bulbs itself cost $240, due to the high price and quality of the base. Replacement cost for Philips are less then $60.
I will be using stock WRX housing - relfector type. I am pretty sure projector types will give better results.
The cost for this kit are $535. With 1 year warrenty. BUT be warned that the replacement cost are high - $235 for a pair of hid light bulbs.
I will be offering them for sale ONLY if they are truly 6000k purple. I have already told the manufactor that i will return them the same day...if they are not.
I have tried and seen Philips 4350k, Hella kits, Bellof (4000k) and Osram. None of these were up to my expectations of audi/porsche color headlight output.
Philips "claims" to be offering a 6000k light bulb - can be bought in the US only from [url]www.hids4less.com[/url] and cost $794.99. Quite a price difference from the regular philips kit selling for $450-600. But from seeing these myself....they are also pure white output. Even the Philips light fourms confirm this.
The kit i ordered are suppose to be the BEST out there. The bulb is being made by a US company, and ballast by a Japanese company (will disclose if if they prove to be all that). They do not use the standard Philips D2S/D2R, which causes poor beam pattern and color output when installed on non OEM hid headlights. Also, note that Philips ballast are being made in Taiwan and Korea, with the made in Germany sticker on them.
This kit uses the same concept as Bellof but at half the price - using a custom base to ensure correct beam pattern. The replacement bulbs itself cost $240, due to the high price and quality of the base. Replacement cost for Philips are less then $60.
I will be using stock WRX housing - relfector type. I am pretty sure projector types will give better results.
The cost for this kit are $535. With 1 year warrenty. BUT be warned that the replacement cost are high - $235 for a pair of hid light bulbs.
I will be offering them for sale ONLY if they are truly 6000k purple. I have already told the manufactor that i will return them the same day...if they are not.
| Marc Sawaya | 10-16-2001 08:58 PM |
Are you saying this is a custom base for the WRX? Or am I not understanding you correctly? Sounds like a good price if they turn out looking as good as you hope. Be sure to post pics! I may be looking to buy an HID kit for my RS soon enough, it's good to hear of more options.
| jacobhorn | 10-16-2001 09:25 PM |
I too am looking for the right set of HIDs that are Purple/white. I have found some from K2 that are called Cryastal White and are suposed to be 6000k. I have seen them for sale for about $480.00 on ebay. Everywhere else they seem to be just over $500. Please let me know if your kits are the real deal and send me a pic. Thanks.
[email][email protected][/email]
[email][email protected][/email]
| HM3SC | 10-16-2001 10:34 PM |
Marc Sawaya: It's a base made for 9007 bulbs - should just be plug and play for WRX. Not exactly sure what it entails until i see it. It is suppose to give superior beam pattern when used in reflector style housing. It must be something different if it cost $230 to replace. Basically, you can't just replace the bulb like the philips ones.
jacobhorn: Yeah, i hope its the real deal too...i am just so pissed when dealers tell me color is a subjective - it might be purple to me....but white to you bull****e. The K2's might be the same kit i am getting. I was just checking out their website - but they list them as 5000k....do you know what brand bulbs and ballast they are using - they are selling for only $480 - damn that's cheap.
Also you said send photos....you want photo of the kit as it came, installed, or the light output?
Because i don't think its possible to tell the "actual" light output color from photos. The film is not sensitive enough to tell purple from pure white. You see those photos on K2 - they must be photoshoped or using a colored reflector.
jacobhorn: Yeah, i hope its the real deal too...i am just so pissed when dealers tell me color is a subjective - it might be purple to me....but white to you bull****e. The K2's might be the same kit i am getting. I was just checking out their website - but they list them as 5000k....do you know what brand bulbs and ballast they are using - they are selling for only $480 - damn that's cheap.
Also you said send photos....you want photo of the kit as it came, installed, or the light output?
Because i don't think its possible to tell the "actual" light output color from photos. The film is not sensitive enough to tell purple from pure white. You see those photos on K2 - they must be photoshoped or using a colored reflector.
| go go go | 10-16-2001 11:04 PM |
There are a couple of brands that makes 6000K HID but I think the blueness of Audi and S2000 comes from the lens, not the bulb itself.
If you try Audi stock bulb in your HID system, you'll know.
I use Panasonic HID bulb and it is not too blue almost pure white, which is fine to me.
[IMG]http://img31.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/9/1/3/8/aki99nobuo-img600x450-1001566846piaa-ds.jpg[/IMG]
If you try Audi stock bulb in your HID system, you'll know.
I use Panasonic HID bulb and it is not too blue almost pure white, which is fine to me.
[IMG]http://img31.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/9/1/3/8/aki99nobuo-img600x450-1001566846piaa-ds.jpg[/IMG]
| HM3SC | 10-16-2001 11:19 PM |
go go go...WOW...you are really the definitive japanese importer. I have been looking everywhere for those....
| TaiChih | 10-16-2001 11:25 PM |
go go go is correct, the blue hue coming from the Audi's and S2000's are indeed due to the projector lens and not from the type of HID you have, although it can play a role. What does it really matter if something is made in Taiwan?! Half the things you own and purchase is made in Taiwan :rolleyes::monkey:
| HM3SC | 10-16-2001 11:42 PM |
yes, the audi/porsche lens do play a big role...because they are using 4000k hid system. Their housing were designed to emit a purple hue. BMW decided that this was very annoying to other drivers, and decided not to refract their light in that way...thus BMW ones are more Blue/White.
BUT hopefully, by using 6000k - thus a higher temperature color - close to purple, it will give us a "similar" effect.
Nothing wrong with Taiwan. My gf is from there. The point is that their factories have different specs and standards.
BUT hopefully, by using 6000k - thus a higher temperature color - close to purple, it will give us a "similar" effect.
Nothing wrong with Taiwan. My gf is from there. The point is that their factories have different specs and standards.
| sti2_5rs | 10-16-2001 11:51 PM |
WOW those PIAA REALLLLLLL HID Kit,
It said an amazing 6000k comes true :D!!
It said an amazing 6000k comes true :D!!
| TaiChih | 10-16-2001 11:58 PM |
Meaning what exactly? From what I read, you are implying that Taiwan has substandards than Germany.It's a given that every company, or country for that matter, has different standards, but not substandard. Not to flame you, but I would love to see the report you read on the different specs and standards between German and Taiwan.;)
| HM3SC | 10-17-2001 12:11 AM |
I do not know enough about the spec and standards of Philips factories. But from experince and distributors - the number of ballast being made in Taiwan/Korea, has a higher rate of failure then the ones being made in Germany (Hella plant).
All i am sugguest is that German made ballast are of higher quality...cause their failure rate is lower.
Taiwan has superior computer/semi con electronic manufactoring processes...some which even Japan can't match.
But i the point was the quality of philips ballast. You have to understand that philips themsevles do not own these factories in Taiwan. They are most joint ventures.
All i am sugguest is that German made ballast are of higher quality...cause their failure rate is lower.
Taiwan has superior computer/semi con electronic manufactoring processes...some which even Japan can't match.
But i the point was the quality of philips ballast. You have to understand that philips themsevles do not own these factories in Taiwan. They are most joint ventures.
| TaiChih | 10-17-2001 01:24 AM |
From your experience with distributors, how exactly can you tell if one is made in Taiwan, and one is made in Germany if it has the same MADE IN GERMANY sticker on it? Do you purchase these in mass quantity from Germany or Taiwan. Does it mean that the ones that fail after use are made in Taiwan? :confused: What sort of proof do you have about the differences between the two? If it's just your EXPERIENCE, then that is your opinion. If you are going to voice your opinion on something, please state is as so. Otherwise, Please go on stating your FACTS about the inferior quality of the Taiwan made Philips ballasts. I am very intrigued as to your findings;)
| jacobhorn | 10-17-2001 01:53 AM |
Here are some Pics of the Vision aka K2 HID Kit in the Crystal White Color (PURPLE).
These are in a 97 Prelude using H1 bulbs in the stock headlights.
These are the color of HIDs that I want to buy!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
[img]http://www.joon525.f2s.com/images/HID/muncherVSJoon.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.joon525.f2s.com/images/HID/outside.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.joon525.f2s.com/images/HID/incar.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.advance-r.com/images/system3.gif[/img]
2 of the colors available from Vision aka K2
Crystal White
[img]http://www.advance-r.com/images/CRYSTAL.gif[/img]
Super White
[img]http://www.advance-r.com/images/SUPER.gif[/img]
These were available through a group buy at GroupBuyCenter.com for $430. [url]http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.asp?row_id=3559[/url]
Advance Racing, the store that is hosting the group buy is in Lynnwood, WA on Highway 99
For more discussion on HID Kits, try [url]www.preludeonline.com[/url] and do a search for HID.
These are in a 97 Prelude using H1 bulbs in the stock headlights.
These are the color of HIDs that I want to buy!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
[img]http://www.joon525.f2s.com/images/HID/muncherVSJoon.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.joon525.f2s.com/images/HID/outside.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.joon525.f2s.com/images/HID/incar.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.advance-r.com/images/system3.gif[/img]
2 of the colors available from Vision aka K2
Crystal White
[img]http://www.advance-r.com/images/CRYSTAL.gif[/img]
Super White
[img]http://www.advance-r.com/images/SUPER.gif[/img]
These were available through a group buy at GroupBuyCenter.com for $430. [url]http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.asp?row_id=3559[/url]
Advance Racing, the store that is hosting the group buy is in Lynnwood, WA on Highway 99
For more discussion on HID Kits, try [url]www.preludeonline.com[/url] and do a search for HID.
| HM3SC | 10-17-2001 02:09 AM |
The VISION hid kit is made in KOREA - and this is a FACT (for Taichih's sake). And i know they don't come with 6000k rated bulbs.
Have you actually seen this car around seattle?
Cause i have a feeling the photo was taken during startup...where the xenon gas hasn't fully reached its operating temperature. My BMW is damn blue/purple too on start up....but turns white after a few secs.
Damn that is a good price....good find jacobhorn.
Have you actually seen this car around seattle?
Cause i have a feeling the photo was taken during startup...where the xenon gas hasn't fully reached its operating temperature. My BMW is damn blue/purple too on start up....but turns white after a few secs.
Damn that is a good price....good find jacobhorn.
| jacobhorn | 10-17-2001 02:14 AM |
--HM3SC:
Its funny you should mention the posibility of the pics being taken during startup. Here is a video of the same car and lights during start up (warm up). I think this kinda proves that the pics are real, as the lights are really purple/white after warm up. Also, these pics were taken to show off a new kit, not to try and sell this HID kit, like all of the other HID pics I have seen in the past. I hope this is the same kit you ordered. It look great!
Purple HID warm up video:
[url]http://208.56.38.63/videos/HIDwarmup.mpg[/url]
Its funny you should mention the posibility of the pics being taken during startup. Here is a video of the same car and lights during start up (warm up). I think this kinda proves that the pics are real, as the lights are really purple/white after warm up. Also, these pics were taken to show off a new kit, not to try and sell this HID kit, like all of the other HID pics I have seen in the past. I hope this is the same kit you ordered. It look great!
Purple HID warm up video:
[url]http://208.56.38.63/videos/HIDwarmup.mpg[/url]
| HM3SC | 10-17-2001 02:24 AM |
hahah...damn...you got all the points covered. Thanks...i really hope my kit is that purple too. But i didn't get a Vision kit...cause i didn't want something made in korea - kinda of regret now.
BUT...why is that video SO DAMN SHORT....showed less then 3 secs of startup. On a cold day...my BMW lights take up to 10 secs to turn white. Nonetheless, those lights do look damn purple....even for start up.
BUT...why is that video SO DAMN SHORT....showed less then 3 secs of startup. On a cold day...my BMW lights take up to 10 secs to turn white. Nonetheless, those lights do look damn purple....even for start up.
| bsquare | 10-17-2001 02:34 AM |
Got an address or phone number for Advance Racing?
Ben
Ben
| TaiChih | 10-17-2001 02:52 AM |
It's great it does not matter to you that having more blue/ purple light casts LESS VISIBLE (useable) light anyway. As you may already know that the color blue has a shorter wavelength, therefore cannot be visibly seen as easy. Is it the looks or visiblilty you want?
[IMG]http://www.hamsar.com/images/HIDlightchartSM.jpg[/IMG]
[url]www.autotoys.com[/url] has HID's for $475.:D
[IMG]http://www.hamsar.com/images/HIDlightchartSM.jpg[/IMG]
[url]www.autotoys.com[/url] has HID's for $475.:D
| jacobhorn | 10-17-2001 03:30 AM |
Advance Racing
23830 Hwy 99, Suite #102
Edmonds, WA 98026
TEL:425-778-8898
FAX:425-778-8081
[url]www.advance-r.com[/url]
General Info:
[email][email protected][/email]
Parts Inquiry: [email][email protected][/email]
Ordering Questions: [email][email protected][/email]
Shipping Questions: [email][email protected][/email]
I have to warn you that I heard some bad things about their shipping.
But, I have been to the shop myself and they were nice and helpful, but there was a bit of a language barrier. Good luck!
23830 Hwy 99, Suite #102
Edmonds, WA 98026
TEL:425-778-8898
FAX:425-778-8081
[url]www.advance-r.com[/url]
General Info:
[email][email protected][/email]
Parts Inquiry: [email][email protected][/email]
Ordering Questions: [email][email protected][/email]
Shipping Questions: [email][email protected][/email]
I have to warn you that I heard some bad things about their shipping.
But, I have been to the shop myself and they were nice and helpful, but there was a bit of a language barrier. Good luck!
| bsquare | 10-17-2001 04:05 AM |
Awesome, thanks. Time for a little drive...IF I EVER GET MY CAR BACK.
Ben
Ben
| HM3SC | 10-17-2001 04:55 AM |
So that TaiChih does not mislead people - i will clarify.
Visible light or the proper term "visible spectrum" is composed of red to violet. Meaning you can see all these wavelengths with the human eye.
The color purple emitted from these HID kits contains the full visible spectrum, as it is a clear blub. It is actually such a "intense" white it is percieved as blue/purple. Therefore, this HID kit "in theory" is superior then 4350k kits because it contains a wider range of wavelengths.
What TaiChih was refering to was "blue coated" light bulbs. The blue coat does not allow any color except blue to pass, as it absorbs most of the visible spectrum (less wavelengths get passed through). Therefore, degrades your headlight visiblity.
if i am not correct...please enlighten me....but this is what i recall from secondary school science.
So to answer your question - i always want and get both looks and performance for my car.
Visible light or the proper term "visible spectrum" is composed of red to violet. Meaning you can see all these wavelengths with the human eye.
The color purple emitted from these HID kits contains the full visible spectrum, as it is a clear blub. It is actually such a "intense" white it is percieved as blue/purple. Therefore, this HID kit "in theory" is superior then 4350k kits because it contains a wider range of wavelengths.
What TaiChih was refering to was "blue coated" light bulbs. The blue coat does not allow any color except blue to pass, as it absorbs most of the visible spectrum (less wavelengths get passed through). Therefore, degrades your headlight visiblity.
if i am not correct...please enlighten me....but this is what i recall from secondary school science.
So to answer your question - i always want and get both looks and performance for my car.
| Avey | 10-17-2001 08:05 AM |
I bought this kit [url]http://www.rollhard.com/eagleeye.htm[/url] for $425.
This is there web site [url]http://www.namyung.co.kr/eagleye/htm/hid.htm.[/url] They claim 5200K.
I live in Canada and they came in three days with regular shipping. I am going to install them tomorrow and I will try to get some pics. The picture on the box shows purple, I got them for the lighting advantage, but if they look like that prelude then I will be really pleased :cool:
This is there web site [url]http://www.namyung.co.kr/eagleye/htm/hid.htm.[/url] They claim 5200K.
I live in Canada and they came in three days with regular shipping. I am going to install them tomorrow and I will try to get some pics. The picture on the box shows purple, I got them for the lighting advantage, but if they look like that prelude then I will be really pleased :cool:
| sti2_5rs | 10-17-2001 08:37 AM |
please do post a pic!! I REALLY want to see it!!
Thanks in advance, AVEY
Thanks in advance, AVEY
| Ginseng | 10-17-2001 01:04 PM |
Ok, maybe I can make a few comments and either clarify things or muddle them up a little more ;)
[b]Chart of human visual sensitivity:[/b] Notice that peak sensitivity occurs around 550nm, or yellow green. This means that for an equal measured luminous intensity, the human eye will perceive detail the best under illumination of this color. This is amply demonstrated by some VWs and American cars which have deep red or deep blue instrument panel gauge illumination. You can see the numbers at night but they will not appear as crisp as the white or greenish color in our WRXs.
[IMG]http://www.photo.net/photo/edscott/response.jpg[/IMG]
What [i]is[/i] compromised at the color of peak sensitivity is true color representation. True color can only be seen at the slightly cooler (visually, but higher in actual color temperature) 500nm or white range. Any cooler than that (blue to violet) and true color representation will be off and visual sensitivity will also begin dropping.
Visual sensitivity is totally separate from the issue of light output as measured in lumens. It is entirely possible for a dimmer green light to render things better to the eye than a brighter deep red or deep violet light. To get more light output, basically look for higher wattage and lack of color-modifying bulb coatings.
So, why do people still prefer the deep blue and purple lights? For the simple reason that in this culture, the standard for the preferred white tends towards blue white. This is not uniform in all areas fo the world, but is true here. A bluish white is perceived as "cleaner" than a pure white or a white with a yellowish cast. The desire for deep purple is merely this preference taken to extreme.
So one question to consider is what [i]looks[/i] better, a yellowish headlight output or a bluish output. The other related question is what will [i]illuminate[/i] the road better and provide true color representation. There is one area of overlap and that is for a high-lumen output system that puts out light at about 510-520nm at a color temperature of about 3900-4000. Here you max out the light output, visual sensitivity and true color representation.
Wilkey
[b]Chart of human visual sensitivity:[/b] Notice that peak sensitivity occurs around 550nm, or yellow green. This means that for an equal measured luminous intensity, the human eye will perceive detail the best under illumination of this color. This is amply demonstrated by some VWs and American cars which have deep red or deep blue instrument panel gauge illumination. You can see the numbers at night but they will not appear as crisp as the white or greenish color in our WRXs.
[IMG]http://www.photo.net/photo/edscott/response.jpg[/IMG]
What [i]is[/i] compromised at the color of peak sensitivity is true color representation. True color can only be seen at the slightly cooler (visually, but higher in actual color temperature) 500nm or white range. Any cooler than that (blue to violet) and true color representation will be off and visual sensitivity will also begin dropping.
Visual sensitivity is totally separate from the issue of light output as measured in lumens. It is entirely possible for a dimmer green light to render things better to the eye than a brighter deep red or deep violet light. To get more light output, basically look for higher wattage and lack of color-modifying bulb coatings.
So, why do people still prefer the deep blue and purple lights? For the simple reason that in this culture, the standard for the preferred white tends towards blue white. This is not uniform in all areas fo the world, but is true here. A bluish white is perceived as "cleaner" than a pure white or a white with a yellowish cast. The desire for deep purple is merely this preference taken to extreme.
So one question to consider is what [i]looks[/i] better, a yellowish headlight output or a bluish output. The other related question is what will [i]illuminate[/i] the road better and provide true color representation. There is one area of overlap and that is for a high-lumen output system that puts out light at about 510-520nm at a color temperature of about 3900-4000. Here you max out the light output, visual sensitivity and true color representation.
Wilkey
| TaiChih | 10-17-2001 02:12 PM |
First I would like to say Thank you Wilkey, for clarifying in an objective manner and not SCREWING with others mind on this board like HM3SC.
And, HM3SC, SHUT UP! Where the hell did you read that I said "blue colored light"bulb. I have always said HID, and I know the difference because I have two sets of HID's, Moron. So, to really clarify for HM3SC, he wants the LOOKS in his HID and this is his opinion ONLY!:mad:
You are wrong HMA$$, in the visible end of the spectrum, at a given output, the human eye can perceive the red end of the spectrum much easier than blue. Maybe, you should have passed secondary school, I done with this fool.:rolleyes: :monkey:
And, HM3SC, SHUT UP! Where the hell did you read that I said "blue colored light"bulb. I have always said HID, and I know the difference because I have two sets of HID's, Moron. So, to really clarify for HM3SC, he wants the LOOKS in his HID and this is his opinion ONLY!:mad:
You are wrong HMA$$, in the visible end of the spectrum, at a given output, the human eye can perceive the red end of the spectrum much easier than blue. Maybe, you should have passed secondary school, I done with this fool.:rolleyes: :monkey:
| HM3SC | 10-17-2001 03:26 PM |
well, i could scoop to your level, with personal attacks. But i don't think its necessary...i am sure your character and manners have been well reflected on this thread already.
| TaiChih | 10-17-2001 03:49 PM |
And your IGNORANCE is well documented.
| Texas25RS | 10-17-2001 03:52 PM |
Selective yellow
Keep your white/blue light..... I will keep my amber light.... better depth perception and blue light doesn't show on a wet road.... not to mention (at least in Texas) you can't pass inspection with HID lights unless you have a halogen highbeam.
| go go go | 10-17-2001 04:25 PM |
Inspection? we don't have headlight inspection in CA. One of the very few good things about California (when it comes to modding a car).
Although I don't have problems with cops about my HID, I do miss hi-beam. There are kits that have Hi-and Lo beam but I rather want to have regular halogen for hi beam. I think hi-beaming people with HID is lethal.:D
Actually the first reason I want halogen Hi beam is because HID has split second delay when I flash.
Although I don't have problems with cops about my HID, I do miss hi-beam. There are kits that have Hi-and Lo beam but I rather want to have regular halogen for hi beam. I think hi-beaming people with HID is lethal.:D
Actually the first reason I want halogen Hi beam is because HID has split second delay when I flash.
| WRX4me | 10-17-2001 04:43 PM |
...and all I wanted were some HIDs that show more of the road at night...:confused::lol:
| jacobhorn | 10-17-2001 08:11 PM |
--TaiChih:
Dude, CHILL OUT. There is no reason to get personal.
Can't we all just get along :( ;)
I am sure that you and HM3SC are both somewhat right. Anyway this thread is about finding some PURPLE HIDs, whether it be for looks or performance. I personally don't give a rats a$$ about what anyone else thinks of the lights that I am going to buy.:)
.....Now back to finding good Purple colored HIDs.....
Dude, CHILL OUT. There is no reason to get personal.
Can't we all just get along :( ;)
I am sure that you and HM3SC are both somewhat right. Anyway this thread is about finding some PURPLE HIDs, whether it be for looks or performance. I personally don't give a rats a$$ about what anyone else thinks of the lights that I am going to buy.:)
.....Now back to finding good Purple colored HIDs.....
| bsquare | 10-17-2001 08:16 PM |
Too bad nobody makes a kit for putting Porsche Litronics in standard bulb sockets.
Ben
Ben
| jacobhorn | 10-17-2001 09:56 PM |
Here are some Purple HID kits on eBay :
This one claims to be a 6000K HID kit:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596605397&r=0&t=0[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596825359&r=0&t=0[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596825361&r=0&t=0[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596825367&r=0&t=0[/url]
This one claims to be a 6000K HID kit:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596605397&r=0&t=0[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596825359&r=0&t=0[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596825361&r=0&t=0[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596825367&r=0&t=0[/url]
| RPM+BPM | 10-18-2001 02:20 AM |
All I want is the BMW headlights....
That glowring looks wicked....
but AWD is more important so....
That glowring looks wicked....
but AWD is more important so....
| sti2_5rs | 10-18-2001 05:15 PM |
so any picture for that egalite setup?
| jacobhorn | 10-19-2001 12:36 AM |
Just for fun...... Here are some Hella 6000K HIDs with both HIGH and LOW beam function. Very interesting.
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1303914&a=9676589&p=55365196[/img]
Pic from eBay auction at:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596918315&r=0&t=0[/url]
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1303914&a=9676589&p=55365196[/img]
Pic from eBay auction at:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596918315&r=0&t=0[/url]
| jacobhorn | 10-19-2001 12:47 AM |
--Sti2_5rs:
Here is a pic of the Eagle Lite Kit. BEWARE, I have heard bad things about this kit, such as it not coming with the needed relays. Read this thread for more pics ad details: "Going to install my HID kit" in the Dress Up & Style section.
[img]http://www.rollhard.com/hidfront1.jpg[/img]
Here is a pic of the Eagle Lite Kit. BEWARE, I have heard bad things about this kit, such as it not coming with the needed relays. Read this thread for more pics ad details: "Going to install my HID kit" in the Dress Up & Style section.
[img]http://www.rollhard.com/hidfront1.jpg[/img]
| 2.0 guy | 10-19-2001 12:48 AM |
Interesting... high and low beam HIDs... just the ticket for making the govt. happy :D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jacobhorn [/i]
[B]Just for fun...... Here are some Hella 6000K HIDs with both HIGH and LOW beam function. Very interesting.
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1303914&a=9676589&p=55365196[/img]
Pic from eBay auction at:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596918315&r=0&t=0[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jacobhorn [/i]
[B]Just for fun...... Here are some Hella 6000K HIDs with both HIGH and LOW beam function. Very interesting.
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1303914&a=9676589&p=55365196[/img]
Pic from eBay auction at:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596918315&r=0&t=0[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
| kgb | 10-19-2001 01:12 AM |
I believe the dual beam kits just put out move power when put on Highbeam - is it true?
Now that I got my Morettes on, I don't need worry about it, just that if I ever go HID, I might want 6300K instead of 4300K, closer to white light I think
Now that I got my Morettes on, I don't need worry about it, just that if I ever go HID, I might want 6300K instead of 4300K, closer to white light I think
| jacobhorn | 10-19-2001 01:19 AM |
The HIGH and LOW beam HIDs above are for H4 bulbs.
Also, they do not produce two different light outputs, they look to have a small motor mounted to the reflector that moves the reflector over the HID bulb to effectively move the light beam from LOW to HIGH.
Also, they do not produce two different light outputs, they look to have a small motor mounted to the reflector that moves the reflector over the HID bulb to effectively move the light beam from LOW to HIGH.
| Billy | 10-19-2001 02:17 AM |
Hella bi-xenon design
[img]http://www.hellana.com/maineng/lev1b/images/licht02.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.hellana.com/maineng/lev1b/images/licht02.gif[/img]
| Billy | 10-19-2001 02:18 AM |
More info here...
[url]http://www.hellana.com/maineng/lev1b/lev2bc/lev3bcc/lev4bccd/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.hellana.com/maineng/lev1b/lev2bc/lev3bcc/lev4bccd/index.html[/url]
| Kevex | 10-19-2001 03:31 AM |
HM3SC
all I have to say is you are a moron. I have no idea what is the problem you have with taiwan. feels like hong kong 30 years ago? have you ever been to taiwan recently? if you don't please just be quit and stop the comparison between each country.:monkey: :monkey:
all I have to say is you are a moron. I have no idea what is the problem you have with taiwan. feels like hong kong 30 years ago? have you ever been to taiwan recently? if you don't please just be quit and stop the comparison between each country.:monkey: :monkey:
| HM3SC | 10-19-2001 04:15 AM |
Kevex: I apologize if the post offerends you. I was just being annoyed by Taichih, and posted something a little extreme (i am sure he is even more annoyed with me). Yes, been to Taipei twice this year for golf trips - only an hour away from hk.
I am going to edit my thread - to prevent the my handle being associated with the word moron.
I am going to edit my thread - to prevent the my handle being associated with the word moron.
| Marc Sawaya | 10-19-2001 01:52 PM |
Yeah, let's stop these stupid flames, they're absolutely pointless, and let's see some pictures of HID kits in action!
| jacobhorn | 10-19-2001 07:23 PM |
I just went to Advance Racing, the race shop posted above, and saw thier Vision/K2 Crystal White (PURPLE) HID kit. The shop owner said that the lights do indeed show a very PURPLE color, just like the prelude pictured above. He said that the PURPLE kit is much more purple than an Audi or BMW. I am getting the impressing that these may be TOO purple and may lead to tickets, like overyly blue lights do. Well, the search continues. Also, if anyone from the Seattle area wants to see what the kits look like installed, stop by Advance Racing, as the employees have them in their cars.
| jacobhorn | 11-01-2001 02:07 AM |
Here are the latest 6000K Ultinon bulbs made by Philips. They are available in Japan and there are a few retailers in the US that carry them. There are currently no retro-fit kits available in the US that utilize these bulbs. They cost $300-$400 for just the bulbs. Ouch! These look GREAT and shower the road with light.
The are very blue/white, almost no purple.
[img]http://www.rakuten.co.jp/nf/img1052116686.gif[/img]
Sorry for the huge Picture :rolleyes:
[email][email protected][/email]
The are very blue/white, almost no purple.
[img]http://www.rakuten.co.jp/nf/img1052116686.gif[/img]
Sorry for the huge Picture :rolleyes:
[email][email protected][/email]
| jacobhorn | 11-01-2001 02:17 AM |
PIAA 6000K HID Bulbs. Only available in Japan. Very blue/white, not much purple.
[img]http://www.rakuten.co.jp/nf/img105253915.gif[/img]
:eek: :eek: :eek:
[img]http://www.rakuten.co.jp/nf/img105256718.jpeg[/img]
[img]http://www.rakuten.co.jp/nf/img105253915.gif[/img]
:eek: :eek: :eek:
[img]http://www.rakuten.co.jp/nf/img105256718.jpeg[/img]
| BugEyed | 11-01-2001 02:53 AM |
Re-inventing the wheel
Billy
That Hella device is cool. I have the same concept in the Rotax Headlamps that were original equipment in my 1930 Riley!:eek:
Good to see that it takes us 70 years to re-invent the same concept.:p
Duncan
That Hella device is cool. I have the same concept in the Rotax Headlamps that were original equipment in my 1930 Riley!:eek:
Good to see that it takes us 70 years to re-invent the same concept.:p
Duncan
| HM3SC | 11-01-2001 03:03 AM |
jacobhorn nice research.
maybe you should start a new thread with your findings....cause this thread i started had lost its purpose a while back ago.
When you going to come check out my lights? I will get photos to you ASAP...
HM3SC
maybe you should start a new thread with your findings....cause this thread i started had lost its purpose a while back ago.
When you going to come check out my lights? I will get photos to you ASAP...
HM3SC
| SilverWRX02 | 11-01-2001 12:08 PM |
I got the vision K2 HID kit 6000k crystal blue but I can't install it cus I need a relay kit boo to that :mad: I was thinkin to just take it to the subaru to install and let them find the relay kit. This annoyin they claim to be plug and play. THey say I can still install it without the relay kit but I'll lose my highbeam. IF I have the relay kit they say I can have my highbeam. wonder if thas true.
| jacobhorn | 11-01-2001 01:59 PM |
SilverWRX02:
If you are installing the K2 HID kit into your stock headlight housing you WILL lose your High beams. There is no way around this, even with a relay. Good luck.
[email][email protected][/email]
If you are installing the K2 HID kit into your stock headlight housing you WILL lose your High beams. There is no way around this, even with a relay. Good luck.
[email][email protected][/email]
| Billy | 11-01-2001 05:01 PM |
How much did you pay for that Vision kit SilverWRX02? Wow they had designs like that back in the 1930's? :eek:
| SilverWRX02 | 11-01-2001 05:44 PM |
paid 425 shipped, thought it was a good deal but then rift something got this HID groupbuy for 300 something
| 128d | 11-01-2001 05:54 PM |
I am looking for some blue looking HID kit. I don't mean blue the way everyone seems to describe Xenon but rather BLUE, true blue. I have seen them on some cars in super street mag but no luck on finding them for sale.
| jacobhorn | 11-01-2001 08:36 PM |
-- 128d:
I know what HID bulbs you are talking about. I have seen a few brands that make a much more blue light. Some of them actually have a blue tint on the glass bulb itself. I will do some searching and post what I find for ya.
[email][email protected][/email]
I know what HID bulbs you are talking about. I have seen a few brands that make a much more blue light. Some of them actually have a blue tint on the glass bulb itself. I will do some searching and post what I find for ya.
[email][email protected][/email]
| 128d | 11-01-2001 09:43 PM |
jacobhorn- Thanks I tried a search but found nothing. Maybe you will have better luck. I just think those would look sweet .
| dead-eye | 01-11-2002 10:48 PM |
Just wondering what happened to the search? yo_its_ok on the [url]www.maxima.org[/url] site had a group buy for 6000k Philips HIDs fro $475 that were crystal blue after warm up. I'm not sure if the buy is still going on since I can no longer find the thread. He appears to be a reputable and knowledgeable dealer (he sells a variety of HID kits from Ichikoh, Philips, Osram, PIAA, Panasonic, etc.) You might try asking him.
| Bunny | 01-11-2002 11:10 PM |
dead-eye
hey just to let you know yo_its_ok IS a very reputable source, i have worked with him on many occassions and he has totally come through each time. he also works in conjunction with Accurit Performance here on the boards, if you would like to get more info on the kits just P.M. Accurit for a fast answer, or you need to talk to either one directly you can pm or AIM me, i'll also let Accurit know about this thread if you want.
--bunny
hey just to let you know yo_its_ok IS a very reputable source, i have worked with him on many occassions and he has totally come through each time. he also works in conjunction with Accurit Performance here on the boards, if you would like to get more info on the kits just P.M. Accurit for a fast answer, or you need to talk to either one directly you can pm or AIM me, i'll also let Accurit know about this thread if you want.
--bunny
| dead-eye | 01-12-2002 03:58 PM |
bunny,
Thanks for the info. I was supposed to buy a set of 6000k HIDs from him but due to some mishaps (mostly my fault), I never got around to it. I've heard he's moving to the west coast so I'm not sure what's going to happen with his HID business. He does seem very knowledgeable and reputable so I hope I can do business with him in the future. BTW, did you purchase a set of 6000k HIDs from him, too?
Thanks for the info. I was supposed to buy a set of 6000k HIDs from him but due to some mishaps (mostly my fault), I never got around to it. I've heard he's moving to the west coast so I'm not sure what's going to happen with his HID business. He does seem very knowledgeable and reputable so I hope I can do business with him in the future. BTW, did you purchase a set of 6000k HIDs from him, too?
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