| lark6 | 06-12-2002 03:24 PM |
Time for an Acropolis sticky?
IIRC this rally begins tomorrow and there's no discussion here? What's up with that? Is everyone too resigned to a season of Peugeot domination to analyze?
Discuss among yourselves.
Ed
Discuss among yourselves.
Ed
| brainrally | 06-12-2002 06:29 PM |
I'm not one at predicting things very well. My guess is that it'll be a tight race between Colin, Marcus and Tommi for first place. But will Colin and Tommi be able to hold on this time without crashing out or suffering vehicle trouble of some kind? The Peugeot has proven its mettle. The drivers are tops.
Peugeot is looking invincible. Steady and solid, both vehicles and drivers. The Focus is still quite competitive as long as we're not on tarmac. Colin is quite fast, if not always steady. But Petter has proven the Subaru has great potential on all surfaces.
I'm going out on a limb here, and saying that Colin finally brings it home in one piece, and takes first. Marcus and Tommi will duke it out for second. Petter, Richard and Carlos will be battling for fourth (or third if one of the front-runners experience a problem).
None of the Peugeots will drop out. Toshi will finish, but not in the points. Same with Markko (though he'll be close).
One of the Hyundai drivers will surprise and take some valuable Maker's points. Mitsubishi will continue to flounder. Skoda will bring up the rear again, though not far from Mitsubishi.
Peugeot is looking invincible. Steady and solid, both vehicles and drivers. The Focus is still quite competitive as long as we're not on tarmac. Colin is quite fast, if not always steady. But Petter has proven the Subaru has great potential on all surfaces.
I'm going out on a limb here, and saying that Colin finally brings it home in one piece, and takes first. Marcus and Tommi will duke it out for second. Petter, Richard and Carlos will be battling for fourth (or third if one of the front-runners experience a problem).
None of the Peugeots will drop out. Toshi will finish, but not in the points. Same with Markko (though he'll be close).
One of the Hyundai drivers will surprise and take some valuable Maker's points. Mitsubishi will continue to flounder. Skoda will bring up the rear again, though not far from Mitsubishi.
| pio!pio! | 06-12-2002 06:47 PM |
Petter Solberg will be the first of the "younger drivers" to reach the top step of the podium in Greece.
Well one can wish.
Well one can wish.
| Red-Impreza | 06-12-2002 06:52 PM |
[QUOTE]Is everyone too resigned to a season of Peugeot domination to analyze? [/QUOTE]
Yes
Yes
| YoungWilliams | 06-12-2002 08:00 PM |
My first ever predictions....mind you, I only started watching rally this year, so be gentle! (And who says you old-schoolers can't rub off on us newbies? I've converted a couple of my NASCAR-loving friends too!)
Unfortunately, I don't expect the Pugs to have too much trouble in the new car....no real major changes, so they'll stay strong. :mad: But France is out of the World Cup, so there may still be hope!
1. Makinen
2. McRae
3. Gronholm
4. Burns
5. Solberg
6. Sainz
Cheers,
Grant
Unfortunately, I don't expect the Pugs to have too much trouble in the new car....no real major changes, so they'll stay strong. :mad: But France is out of the World Cup, so there may still be hope!
1. Makinen
2. McRae
3. Gronholm
4. Burns
5. Solberg
6. Sainz
Cheers,
Grant
| trev555 | 06-12-2002 08:38 PM |
Acropolis
I think it could be time for a Sainz victory.
| Subie Gal | 06-13-2002 10:15 AM |
hmmm i hate predictions.. but..
1 - Colin
2 - Tommi
3 - Burnsie
4 - Carlos
5 - Gronholm
6 - Solberg
the Pugs have never been all too successful at this rally...
and i hope that rings true this time (sorry Richard...)
Colin and Carlos will likely do well if they dont crash!! :rolleyes:
and Burns won this event back in 99... so he's a contender, even in the "new" improved 206....
should be an interesting and eventful :lol: rally...
this one's a car breaker!!! :eek:
cheers!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
1 - Colin
2 - Tommi
3 - Burnsie
4 - Carlos
5 - Gronholm
6 - Solberg
the Pugs have never been all too successful at this rally...
and i hope that rings true this time (sorry Richard...)
Colin and Carlos will likely do well if they dont crash!! :rolleyes:
and Burns won this event back in 99... so he's a contender, even in the "new" improved 206....
should be an interesting and eventful :lol: rally...
this one's a car breaker!!! :eek:
cheers!
Jamie
[url]www.subiegalracing.com[/url]
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| johnfelstead | 06-13-2002 12:45 PM |
Petter will win!
I so hope so anyway, that guy needs a break!
I so hope so anyway, that guy needs a break!
| MulletSlayer | 06-13-2002 12:50 PM |
I think Solberg has a good chance of winning if the Impreza holds together. He has been so close and its only a matter of time.
Burns will come in second, Sainz will be third and Tommi will have some problems and fight his way back to fourth. Loeb will come in 5th. Alister will come in 6th. Colin and Gronholm will crash out.
Burns will come in second, Sainz will be third and Tommi will have some problems and fight his way back to fourth. Loeb will come in 5th. Alister will come in 6th. Colin and Gronholm will crash out.
| brainrally | 06-13-2002 03:19 PM |
Gronholm has been too consistent and steady. I would be surprised if he crashed out.
| Verist | 06-13-2002 08:42 PM |
Anybody getting or have used the Virtual Spectator? Is it worth it? I'm thinking the one or two of the Pugs might break. I know they are supposed to be better on the rough stuff than before.. but Greece is the hardest on the car not including the Safari. So my fearless prediction is:
1. Solberg
2. McCrae...Colin of course
3. Burns
4. T-Money (He will take it easy, he just wants to finish one)
5. Sainz
Regan-
1. Solberg
2. McCrae...Colin of course
3. Burns
4. T-Money (He will take it easy, he just wants to finish one)
5. Sainz
Regan-
| Verist | 06-14-2002 04:06 AM |
#$#@% Solberg spin... 1:30 down already arrgh...
| lark6 | 06-14-2002 06:58 AM |
Yeah, I almost feel guilty for requesting the sticky. With [spoiler]...
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Makinen 9th, Arai 14th, and Solberg 23rd after SS2, it looks like a long rally for the SWRT fans.
Ex-SWRT'er Martin off to a good start though, as are the Hyundais.
Ed
| elgorey | 06-14-2002 10:09 AM |
Ugh....a Hyundai in 2nd? whats going on here?
go Petter! only um......2:25 behind........*sigh*
go Petter! only um......2:25 behind........*sigh*
| Kingtut R-S | 06-14-2002 10:37 AM |
Joder!!!!!!
Thats the spanish version of the f.. word. Makkinen is out!!!
He losted a wheel and already had been having brakes problems...}
Petter was fastest on stage six but is 2 minutes from the podium.. Looks like a Ford/Peugeout battle.. I'll cheer for the blue oval since both drivers where subbie lovers before and cause the frenchmen are just too arrogant for my "tropical taste" to swallow..
Race on and grettings from the land of the Bacardi and the most beautiful women in the world, (4 Miss universes. J.Lo, and my wife of course!!:D :D :D
He losted a wheel and already had been having brakes problems...}
Petter was fastest on stage six but is 2 minutes from the podium.. Looks like a Ford/Peugeout battle.. I'll cheer for the blue oval since both drivers where subbie lovers before and cause the frenchmen are just too arrogant for my "tropical taste" to swallow..
Race on and grettings from the land of the Bacardi and the most beautiful women in the world, (4 Miss universes. J.Lo, and my wife of course!!:D :D :D
| Verist | 06-14-2002 01:20 PM |
The same thing happens every rally... Solberg spins, loses a massive amount of time. He will then go on to drive an awesome rally the rest of the way. Tommi has problems and does not finnish..typical.
| NJ RS Girl | 06-14-2002 03:19 PM |
Petter has tried so hard this year but it just never works out for him.
Ugh :(
Ugh :(
| Coati | 06-14-2002 03:35 PM |
SWRT needs to employ an exorcist.:(
| pio!pio! | 06-14-2002 04:32 PM |
It looks like Tommi Crashinen and Petter Spinberg has done it again :mad: :mad:
I really want to see Petter on the top step of the podium one of these days. OTOH It's looking really good for Hyundai..I don't think they've ever been on the podium before or am I wrong?
I really want to see Petter on the top step of the podium one of these days. OTOH It's looking really good for Hyundai..I don't think they've ever been on the podium before or am I wrong?
| freq | 06-14-2002 04:56 PM |
bummer :(
[url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/Gallery/Photo/2002_R_GR_MakinenOut.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/Gallery/Photo/2002_R_GR_MakinenOut.htm[/url]
| freq | 06-14-2002 05:01 PM |
Solberg has made up alot of time since SS2 though, and came in first in ss6. he hasn't given up just yet.
| lark6 | 06-14-2002 06:22 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Verist [/i]
[B]The same thing happens every rally... Solberg spins, loses a massive amount of time. He will then go on to drive an awesome rally the rest of the way. Tommi has problems and does not finnish..typical. [/B][/QUOTE]
How much trouble would I cause by saying Makinen's a has-been and Solberg a never-will-be? I know it's not a done deal but would anyone have thought Martin would win a rally before Solberg? Didn't think so.
Here's hoping I'm wrong. I like Solberg's style but it's true he gets himself in a hole early on all too often.
Can SWRT get Juha back?
Ed
[B]The same thing happens every rally... Solberg spins, loses a massive amount of time. He will then go on to drive an awesome rally the rest of the way. Tommi has problems and does not finnish..typical. [/B][/QUOTE]
How much trouble would I cause by saying Makinen's a has-been and Solberg a never-will-be? I know it's not a done deal but would anyone have thought Martin would win a rally before Solberg? Didn't think so.
Here's hoping I'm wrong. I like Solberg's style but it's true he gets himself in a hole early on all too often.
Can SWRT get Juha back?
Ed
| Wheels | 06-14-2002 07:50 PM |
Makinen is crap!
Yet another DNF.
This is looking to be a terible trend. He should be dropped. How on earth is Subaru going to win the championship if only one driver (the second at that) continues to finnish?
This is looking to be a terible trend. He should be dropped. How on earth is Subaru going to win the championship if only one driver (the second at that) continues to finnish?
| FUBAR | 06-14-2002 08:17 PM |
Acropolis rally
Here's a quote from speedvision.com
"The only major retirement of the day came on the final stage, when Tommi Makinen's run of ill fortune continued. The Subaru first lost power steering on SS5 and then, virtually undriveable, it smashed a wheel off on the final stage and the Finn had no choice but to retire. Makinen has now finished only two of this season's seven events. "
geez if it wasn't for Petter, Subaru's year would be kinda bleak!
"The only major retirement of the day came on the final stage, when Tommi Makinen's run of ill fortune continued. The Subaru first lost power steering on SS5 and then, virtually undriveable, it smashed a wheel off on the final stage and the Finn had no choice but to retire. Makinen has now finished only two of this season's seven events. "
geez if it wasn't for Petter, Subaru's year would be kinda bleak!
| jesse370 | 06-14-2002 08:38 PM |
I don't know how people can be so down on tommi. He has had alot of bad luck this year. he is getting used to a different car this year. Last year he was in the hunt till the last rally, I don't think he is that far off the pace in a year. And the pugs have a larger budget and can do more with it. And peter is having difficulty, I wouldn't give up on either of them. Spend a lil more coin subaru!
| jesse370 | 06-14-2002 08:40 PM |
Not to sound like an ass or anything but how can you blame mech failures and an accident caused by them on tommi?
| Wheels | 06-14-2002 09:10 PM |
Umm lets see theres the time he drove through a snow bunker without even taking a second to look at the possible damage continued and later retired due to over heating (umm maybe the snow jammed into the grill had something to do with that)
Then he's had the big off. Theres been nothing mechanical wrong with his car. As SOA would say :D its driver abuse!!
He caused every DNF. What more can I say!
If he never hit a dam boulder his wheel wouldn`t snap.
He`s just over driving the car. and over the hill.
Here we go
Acropolis - Crashed out
Argentina - Crashed out
Cyprus - Third place
Catalunya - Mechanical before SS 7 (Makinen failed to begin the day's running after his engine succumbed to damage on the road section leading the first service)
Corsica - Crashed off
Sweden - Engine Failure (Driver ignorance. The Finn went off the road, getting snow in his Impreza's cooling system which in turn forced the car to overheat and he called it quits.)
Monte Carlo - Won by default
Then he's had the big off. Theres been nothing mechanical wrong with his car. As SOA would say :D its driver abuse!!
He caused every DNF. What more can I say!
If he never hit a dam boulder his wheel wouldn`t snap.
He`s just over driving the car. and over the hill.
Here we go
Acropolis - Crashed out
Argentina - Crashed out
Cyprus - Third place
Catalunya - Mechanical before SS 7 (Makinen failed to begin the day's running after his engine succumbed to damage on the road section leading the first service)
Corsica - Crashed off
Sweden - Engine Failure (Driver ignorance. The Finn went off the road, getting snow in his Impreza's cooling system which in turn forced the car to overheat and he called it quits.)
Monte Carlo - Won by default
| Lightning Jack | 06-14-2002 09:14 PM |
i'm cryin' for Tommi:(
| lark6 | 06-14-2002 10:22 PM |
There's another thread on here that's even harsher to Makinen. Theory is that he's pushing too hard on the car while still trying to learn it. (Maybe losing patience?) As for coin, I thought BAT/555 would be pumping more into the team. Maybe they need to drop Arai back to Group N or out altogether and use that money to boost development of Makinen's and Solberg's cars. (Bet FHI would never let that happen.) [Edit: other's opinions are that the car is not as sturdy as the Lancer Evo VI that Makinen drove so successfully for several years. The more reason to focus on R&D.]
I will admit that I've only been following the WRC for 5 seasons, but the traits being exhibited by the drivers are common to other circuits as well. Sorry to come across so presumptious - I'm not giving up on them and hope they both get back on the podium soon but things don't look good for them at the moment.
Ed
I will admit that I've only been following the WRC for 5 seasons, but the traits being exhibited by the drivers are common to other circuits as well. Sorry to come across so presumptious - I'm not giving up on them and hope they both get back on the podium soon but things don't look good for them at the moment.
Ed
| RollingRex | 06-14-2002 10:39 PM |
Well lets face it, Tommi is not the best driver anymore...I think Subaru made a "little" mistake putting him behind the wheel...don't get me wrong he definitely put his name in the history of the sport, but last year it was my feeling that he will never return to his previous glory and when I learned that he will be driving Subaru I was a bit dissapointed:o
But after the first rally of the season I thought my fears will dissapear (I know the victory was kind of gifted) and as much as I did not want to admit it -- I was wrong
At this point I don't think Subaru will win the championship this year (much to my dislike), but I can't really agree with Wheels all the way
[QUOTE]This is looking to be a terible trend. He should be dropped.[/QUOTE]
But after the first rally of the season I thought my fears will dissapear (I know the victory was kind of gifted) and as much as I did not want to admit it -- I was wrong
At this point I don't think Subaru will win the championship this year (much to my dislike), but I can't really agree with Wheels all the way
[QUOTE]This is looking to be a terible trend. He should be dropped.[/QUOTE]
| Thug | 06-14-2002 10:41 PM |
Here's what I say: The Subaru WRC car is crap!
Tommi didnt have any problem winning in a reliable car. And that wasnt all that long ago.
Tommi didnt have any problem winning in a reliable car. And that wasnt all that long ago.
| Thug | 06-14-2002 11:21 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Wheels [/i]
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If he never hit a dam boulder his wheel wouldn`t snap.
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He hit a boulder because the steering cut out on him.
[B]
If he never hit a dam boulder his wheel wouldn`t snap.
l[/B][/QUOTE]
He hit a boulder because the steering cut out on him.
| Orion | 06-15-2002 12:28 AM |
OK, you're unhappy with Tommi, but can you PLEASE be courteous enough to NOT start a spoiler thread in the middle of the Rally???
There's a thread stickied at the top for discussion of the current event so that those who have not had the chance to watch don't have it ruined in advance.
See this thread:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=200547[/url]
Thanks.;)
There's a thread stickied at the top for discussion of the current event so that those who have not had the chance to watch don't have it ruined in advance.
See this thread:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=200547[/url]
Thanks.;)
| shrieden | 06-15-2002 06:23 AM |
God help him for pushing the envelope trying to win something back. He was well on his way to catching Gronholm when he had the 'big off' in Argentina. All drivers make mistakes! They just seem to group them together. And here is another question, I don't see any one bitching and complaining about Colin McRae and his driving, he is either spectacular fast, or spectacular crashing, I feel Tommi is the same, when everything is melding he is still right up amongst the top!
Oh, and by the way, Tommi said the reason for the lost wheel was because his front brakes had failed :p
Oh, and by the way, Tommi said the reason for the lost wheel was because his front brakes had failed :p
| dwx | 06-15-2002 10:47 AM |
I hope McRae holds on to win. If not a Subaru driver, then Colin is the guy I want on the top of the podium. :) Looks like Petter is clawing back, I don't know if he can catch 6th place, but I have no doubt he'll overtake Loeb. It is true though it's been the same story almost every rally. Petter pushes and wins alot of stages but does something that puts him too far behind to catch back up...
| trinidriver | 06-15-2002 02:25 PM |
wasting money
I agree with the suggestion to lose Arai.
| lark6 | 06-15-2002 03:29 PM |
Looks like I may be eating my words about Martin winning a rally before Solberg...not that I mind of course. ;)
Ed
Ed
| Patrick L | 06-15-2002 04:51 PM |
What a bunch of fair weather fans! :mad:
You are so quick to blame it on the driver. He wouldn't be in this position if he had a more reliable car. If it wasn't for the power steering that went out. This would have never happen. SO STOP BLAMING TOMMI FOR EVERYTHING!!
Yes it was his fault in Argentina but as for Sweden. That Prodrive's fault in not making a front end that wouldn't let that happen in a snow rally.
You are so quick to blame it on the driver. He wouldn't be in this position if he had a more reliable car. If it wasn't for the power steering that went out. This would have never happen. SO STOP BLAMING TOMMI FOR EVERYTHING!!
Yes it was his fault in Argentina but as for Sweden. That Prodrive's fault in not making a front end that wouldn't let that happen in a snow rally.
| lark6 | 06-15-2002 05:49 PM |
So I see this sticky has been merged with the "Makinen is crap" thread, otherwise I wouldn't have seen the last comment in this one.
| shrieden | 06-15-2002 11:30 PM |
Man, did you see Petter's steering wheel???? Talk about scary!!!!!!!
| Jersey Mike | 06-16-2002 12:21 AM |
There is a saying that in Europe your as good as you best race, but in America your only as good as your last race. Makkinen has won the WRC championship four times, to say he is'nt a good, a great driver is complete nonsense. Even though he has failed to finish five times this year he has been competative before the DNF occured. I think he is pushing the car to hard and one could tell if you saw the broadcast that his crash in Argentina shook him up a little, but that does not mean he is a bad driver or has poor judgment. You do not win four WRC Championships because you have poor judgment. Juha has four has well, that was a long time ago, so does that mean he is now a bad driver? WRC is the pinniacle of the sport, if your at least in the race, your one of the best driver's in the world.
On another note, I've been impressed with Solberg's performance through out the year, I think that if he can continue finishing well this season, he may be a contender for next years championship. Running with a broke steering wheel and still setting second fastest time on stage without pace notes is something for sure.
On another note, I've been impressed with Solberg's performance through out the year, I think that if he can continue finishing well this season, he may be a contender for next years championship. Running with a broke steering wheel and still setting second fastest time on stage without pace notes is something for sure.
| Verist | 06-16-2002 08:22 AM |
Man, Petter can drive.. if he could stop making those small errors in the begining of each rally he would be golden. Maybe like in baseball when a starter has problems with the first few batters of a game, they have him warm up longer. We should send him a copy of WRC for the PS2 so he can practice before the race.
| dwx | 06-16-2002 10:16 AM |
If you notice, Petter was top 3 on the final 10 stages that were run... Now if he could only settle down at the beginning of the rally. I'm happy the McRae won, it's been awhile.
| WRXuser | 06-16-2002 10:48 AM |
Rally
Money: Subaru has only two cars as best as I can tell competing in the rallys. Peugoet (spelling?) and Ford have 3 cars each. Maybe 4 Fords? More cars would obviously increase Subarus chances of manfacturers points.
On another point. Drivers like Gronholm, Burns or Mcrae could be driving any make of car and they would still be placing just like they are in the drivers standings. I'm not so sure Tommi should be blamed for this last accident as I believe he had lost his power steering, but if you know you have a problem like that shouldn't you be a bit more careful and try and finish the leg rather than driving balls to the wall and knocking off your tire. Petter well what can you say....You would think he would tire of sinning out so much. Fortunately Subaru builds better rally cars than Mitsubishi and Yundai or they would probably be chasing the other two car teams.
In summary more cars plus better drivers equals more manufacturers points. THe odds are never in Subarus favor.
On another point. Drivers like Gronholm, Burns or Mcrae could be driving any make of car and they would still be placing just like they are in the drivers standings. I'm not so sure Tommi should be blamed for this last accident as I believe he had lost his power steering, but if you know you have a problem like that shouldn't you be a bit more careful and try and finish the leg rather than driving balls to the wall and knocking off your tire. Petter well what can you say....You would think he would tire of sinning out so much. Fortunately Subaru builds better rally cars than Mitsubishi and Yundai or they would probably be chasing the other two car teams.
In summary more cars plus better drivers equals more manufacturers points. THe odds are never in Subarus favor.
| MstrDC | 06-16-2002 10:16 PM |
[QUOTE]In summary more cars plus better drivers equals more manufacturers points. THe odds are never in Subarus favor.[/QUOTE]
Only two cars per team is eligible(sp?) for manufacturer's points. So no, more cars does not equal more manufacturer's points. :cool:
Only two cars per team is eligible(sp?) for manufacturer's points. So no, more cars does not equal more manufacturer's points. :cool:
| Patrick L | 06-16-2002 11:38 PM |
What Peter needs is a anti-spin device. :p :D
| Bonzo | 06-16-2002 11:46 PM |
I am suprised no one has commented on our new voice, Dave Despain. I have been watching him for many years in the 2 wheeled world. He does a good job on the bike side and seems to be loads better than Ralph so far.
| driggity | 06-16-2002 11:54 PM |
Yeah, this new voice confused me. Has he been doing the coverage for the whole rally? I was without Speed channel friday and saturday nights so tonight is the first coverage I've seen of the rally. And any word on why they changed announcers?
| jesse370 | 06-16-2002 11:56 PM |
I have to agree dave is a far better anouncer. And as for peter.....he'll get there...He is the subaru driver I'm pulling for.
how about that specator tossing that stone at gronholm's car? That isn't needed at all....
Go peter! He is ahead of tommi in the points. Who would've thunk that
how about that specator tossing that stone at gronholm's car? That isn't needed at all....
Go peter! He is ahead of tommi in the points. Who would've thunk that
| Bonzo | 06-17-2002 12:02 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by driggity [/i]
[B]Yeah, this new voice confused me. Has he been doing the coverage for the whole rally? I was without Speed channel friday and saturday nights so tonight is the first coverage I've seen of the rally. And any word on why they changed announcers? [/B][/QUOTE]
This is the first I heard him.
Maybe they changed after the plethora of emails complaining about Mr. Shaheen.:lol: I could live with him as long as we got WRC. Thats all that matters.
[B]Yeah, this new voice confused me. Has he been doing the coverage for the whole rally? I was without Speed channel friday and saturday nights so tonight is the first coverage I've seen of the rally. And any word on why they changed announcers? [/B][/QUOTE]
This is the first I heard him.
Maybe they changed after the plethora of emails complaining about Mr. Shaheen.:lol: I could live with him as long as we got WRC. Thats all that matters.
| Clegg | 06-17-2002 01:10 AM |
I think Ralf was out at the IRL or CART races, if you noticed in the Speed News Dave was the only one in the studio this week since everyone else was either at LeMans, the Pikes Peak IRL, or in Chicago at the CART race. Lots of big races this last weekend.
| TimStevens | 06-17-2002 07:52 AM |
3 cheers for Dave Despain, he's great on Bike Week and did a pretty good job with the rally coverage... a whole ton better than Ralphie. I'm just hoping Ralphie doesn't come back!
-tim
-tim
| Red-Impreza | 06-17-2002 10:59 AM |
[QUOTE]3 cheers for Dave Despain,[/QUOTE]
Hip, hip, hooray!
I wondered if anybody was talking about this. IMO, Despain is a big improvement over Shaheen. If you agree, you should write [URL=http://www.speedtv.com/feedback/?lvl=0f&cat=22&a_id=3]Speed TV[/URL] and tell them. Maybe we'll get to keep him. Just last week I was thinking, "If we can't have somebody who's actually come out of the sport, then maybe we could have Dave Despain."
-Bud
Hip, hip, hooray!
I wondered if anybody was talking about this. IMO, Despain is a big improvement over Shaheen. If you agree, you should write [URL=http://www.speedtv.com/feedback/?lvl=0f&cat=22&a_id=3]Speed TV[/URL] and tell them. Maybe we'll get to keep him. Just last week I was thinking, "If we can't have somebody who's actually come out of the sport, then maybe we could have Dave Despain."
-Bud
| Idjiit | 06-17-2002 11:28 AM |
I thought this guy was a lot worse than Sheahan... At least 'ole Ralph sounds like he's [b]somewhat[/b] interested in what's going on, even it's in that annoying American-radio-personality way. This guy sounded bored, and was hard to understand at times (which is a factor for me since I have to listen to it relatively quietly).
But, I just have to say [b]GO PETTER[/b]! I can't wait for 2003...
But, I just have to say [b]GO PETTER[/b]! I can't wait for 2003...
| Red-Impreza | 06-17-2002 12:43 PM |
[QUOTE]in that annoying American-radio-personality way[/QUOTE] :lol:
Maybe that's my problem with Shaheen. I can't stand radio DJ's either. :p
Maybe that's my problem with Shaheen. I can't stand radio DJ's either. :p
| Jewbaru | 06-17-2002 02:00 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Top_Dog [/i]
[B]What a bunch of fair weather fans! :mad:
You are so quick to blame it on the driver. He wouldn't be in this position if he had a more reliable car. If it wasn't for the power steering that went out. This would have never happen. SO STOP BLAMING TOMMI FOR EVERYTHING!!
Yes it was his fault in Argentina but as for Sweden. That Prodrive's fault in not making a front end that wouldn't let that happen in a snow rally. [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, Tommi hit a rock, which broke the power steering. Then he [b]looked away[/b] from the road when his brakes failed, causing him to hit the rock that ripped off the wheel. Two small mistakes cause him the retirement.
The Subaru has been a tough car this year. There have been problems here and there, but I can only think of Petter's retirement in Sweeden as the only retirement due to failure on the cars part. There were other problems, but nothing strange, and certainly nothing other teams haven't seen. How many times did Carlos have his PS go out? Markus had his hydrolic system fail, they've even lost cars to dead engines. Mitsu has been having troubles, transmission, and the driveshaft woes of Cyprus,
and of course Hyundai hasn't been the pinnical of reliability either.
Petter is young, and will still make mistakes. He tends to go balls to the wall, then slow down, while the others seem to go safe, then speed up. He's a VERY fast driver, and a win is in his future. Hell, he managed 2nd fastest on the stage when his steering wheel went crazy, and he started driving BLIND!
Tommi isn't a perfect driver, but when he's on the ball, he's a good one. Everyone makes mistakes, and Tommi's problems seem to stick out the most in our eyes, since we're Subaru fans. However, he's made some mistakes that ended up costing him rallies. The car is a good car too, but it isn't perfect, however, it seems to be the only car that can compete with, and beat, the Pugs on [b]any[/b] surface.
[B]What a bunch of fair weather fans! :mad:
You are so quick to blame it on the driver. He wouldn't be in this position if he had a more reliable car. If it wasn't for the power steering that went out. This would have never happen. SO STOP BLAMING TOMMI FOR EVERYTHING!!
Yes it was his fault in Argentina but as for Sweden. That Prodrive's fault in not making a front end that wouldn't let that happen in a snow rally. [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, Tommi hit a rock, which broke the power steering. Then he [b]looked away[/b] from the road when his brakes failed, causing him to hit the rock that ripped off the wheel. Two small mistakes cause him the retirement.
The Subaru has been a tough car this year. There have been problems here and there, but I can only think of Petter's retirement in Sweeden as the only retirement due to failure on the cars part. There were other problems, but nothing strange, and certainly nothing other teams haven't seen. How many times did Carlos have his PS go out? Markus had his hydrolic system fail, they've even lost cars to dead engines. Mitsu has been having troubles, transmission, and the driveshaft woes of Cyprus,
and of course Hyundai hasn't been the pinnical of reliability either.
Petter is young, and will still make mistakes. He tends to go balls to the wall, then slow down, while the others seem to go safe, then speed up. He's a VERY fast driver, and a win is in his future. Hell, he managed 2nd fastest on the stage when his steering wheel went crazy, and he started driving BLIND!
Tommi isn't a perfect driver, but when he's on the ball, he's a good one. Everyone makes mistakes, and Tommi's problems seem to stick out the most in our eyes, since we're Subaru fans. However, he's made some mistakes that ended up costing him rallies. The car is a good car too, but it isn't perfect, however, it seems to be the only car that can compete with, and beat, the Pugs on [b]any[/b] surface.
| Jewbaru | 06-17-2002 02:07 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MstrDC [/i]
[B]Only two cars per team is eligible(sp?) for manufacturer's points. So no, more cars does not equal more manufacturer's points. :cool: [/B][/QUOTE]
Correct, only two cars are eligible, but more cars = higher chance of scoring points since the top 2 earn the point = more points in the long run. If Subaru ran 3 or 4 good drivers, they might be leading the pack, or fighting with Pugs.
[B]Only two cars per team is eligible(sp?) for manufacturer's points. So no, more cars does not equal more manufacturer's points. :cool: [/B][/QUOTE]
Correct, only two cars are eligible, but more cars = higher chance of scoring points since the top 2 earn the point = more points in the long run. If Subaru ran 3 or 4 good drivers, they might be leading the pack, or fighting with Pugs.
| Dussander | 06-17-2002 02:16 PM |
For me Rally winning is from great drivers, great navigators, a great manufacturer, a great team and a ton of randomness thrown in. Some people win some they shouldn't have, some lose some they should have won. Sometimes, they lead the whole race and screw up the end, sometimes they start way behind and fight all the way to the top. There are so many great drivers/teams this year the randomness has more play then normal. I wouldn't have it any other way.
| jmullan | 06-28-2002 05:26 AM |
Isn't Acropolis this weekend?
| Clegg | 06-28-2002 11:51 AM |
heheheh you are like 2 or 3 weeks late!
Safari is this weekend I think
Safari is this weekend I think
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