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UK300 vs. WRC replica headlights part 1

raptor5 07-01-2002 07:20 PM

UK300 vs. WRC replica headlights
 
I am purchasing a new set of headlights shortly and I am torn between the UK300 and the WRC replica headlights. Both are around the same price through vivid. The question I have is, are both styles projector on the low and high beams. Since I can't make up my mind I figure I would go with whichever one was functional better. Please help me as I am so indesicive. Thanks

raptor5
tnmn28 07-01-2002 07:22 PM

On my UK300, only the low beams are projectors.
paultg 07-01-2002 08:13 PM

If Prodrive product is "almost as much" as a replica, buy the Prodrive part.

I also thought the UK300 was the WRC Rally lights, but with a turn signal, since the ralley car has vents instead.

Paul G.
dwx 07-01-2002 08:32 PM

Which WRC replica lights are you talking about? If it's the Orciari ones they are very good quality. The UK300s and the Orciari lights use identical Hella lighting hardware, just different housings and the low beams are reversed as to where they sit. UK300s have them on the outside and the Orciaris are on the inside.
raptor5 07-01-2002 09:05 PM

The Prodrive WRX in SCCA uses UK300's. The FIA WRC WRX uses the WRC replicas like the ones sold by Vivid. Yes the WRC replica ones I am talking about are Orciari.
gtguy 07-01-2002 09:34 PM

In real life (not pictured on a website) the Prodrive lights look better than the Orciaris, IMHO.

Kevin
trinidriver 07-01-2002 10:36 PM

Would the wiring harness for the UK300s work with the Orciaris? Do the Orciaris not fit perfectly, and therefore look less finished than the UK300s? Thanks.
DannyGT 07-01-2002 10:49 PM

The Orciari are WAY BETTER -- They stay much more true to the design of the WRC car....except no vents....I hate the position of the turn signal in the UK300 lights, Looks stupid IMO....BELIEVE ME -- Only thing the UK300 has over the orciari is that its painted black, while the orciari has that black abs plastic look, but then you can paint it to the color of your car and definitly have it look better than the uk300.....
Kostamojen 07-02-2002 02:34 AM

I disagree, ive seen the UK300's in person and they look like they belong on the car. The quality is just top notch.
Frederf 07-02-2002 03:06 AM

Wait, WRC cars need turn signals! They have to be street legal between special stages! And yes, the UK300's are top notch. The one's on the WRC car are CF and $$$$$$$$, the replicas are nice, but not near the quality of the UK300s.
spike 07-02-2002 04:38 AM

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The WRC cars do have turn signals, but not on the headlights. The headlights are carbon, and dual projection. They also don't appear to have actual vents on them. I have a pair of UK300's waiting to be installed, and they are extremely good quality lights, with dual Hella light fixtures.
dwx 07-02-2002 08:53 AM

There is a vendor in Japan that sells that front bumper complete with turn signals. It's about $800, won't ship overseas though. :(
spd wgn 07-02-2002 02:45 PM

someone's got it wrong....

UK300s are not painted, in fact, probably can't be painted..they're gloss ABS

and the placement of the turn signal has a perfectly balanced look within the housing. but of course, personal taste etc etc...

I have a set and they are first rate in build and looks:D

spd wgn
Simon Lines 07-03-2002 10:24 AM

Hi Guys

They are a gloss finish, but they can be painted any colour you choose

Cheers

Simo
odakurama 07-03-2002 11:02 AM

hey,hasn't anyone seen the real carbon fibre WRC headlight?

It's been released in Japan and I have just seen them on the japanese Impreza Maganine no.15,but it's for the prodrive sti, as someone said above the wrc really has the turn signals, but not on the headlight, they are on the front funder.

Btw, the price is 248,000 Yen, thus about 2000 USD, IMO no one will consider that
RacerinLSL 07-03-2002 06:10 PM

I have the UK300's and I love everything about them! They look much better than the WRC replicas, especially on a black car. Also, they are made by Prodrive and you can't beat that. Here's a pic of mine right after I got them. Now I just need some STi mesh fog covers and an STi lip.
[IMG]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2026577[/IMG]

Chad:cool:
GoodFinder 07-04-2002 12:53 AM

I've had a pair of UK300 on my WRX for quite some time and I still get lots of compliments on them. I think they look great. At some point I need to figure out how to upgrade the bulbs or see if I could do an HID conversion (at least for low beams). All in all, I continue to be very happy with the UK300 on my WRX. If you have the July issue of Sport Compact Car, mine is one of the Subarus in the running for the Ultimate Street Car Challenge.

GoodFinder :)
CC-B 07-05-2002 11:10 AM

Thought I'd post some pics of the Orciari headlights to balance things out some :p
Looking at quality of build and fitment, I believe there is very little difference between the Orciari's and the Prodrives, so it comes down to personal preference.
If you have any questions, post here.

Eddy

[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/kevins1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/close-up.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/wrc-nighttime.jpg[/IMG]
Scoob 07-05-2002 02:42 PM

Hey DWX, are you talking about Giken that make the WRC style bumper, or someone else. I'd be interested in getting the version with indicators in the bumper. Maybe I can talk a friend in Japan into getting it shipped to him.

Scoob.
dwx 07-05-2002 03:01 PM

Not Giken, it's this company: [url]http://burn-up.vis.ne.jp/nai_ru/index.html[/url] . It's an EXACT replica, if I could get someone to ship one over to the US for < $1k I'd buy it... From the translation it comes with the built-in turn signals. The headlights they show are projector but I guess not yet released.

[IMG]http://www10.vis.ne.jp/~burn-up/nai_ru/cgi-bin/cata/img/41.jpg[/IMG]
Scoob 07-05-2002 03:04 PM

Wow! Thanks for the link... It looks pretty sweet! Someone here on the board must have contacts in japan! I have a friend, but he wouldn't be too impressed about receiving a hundred bumpers and shipping them out!

Scoob.
trinidriver 07-05-2002 05:56 PM

Is the wiring and aiming for the Oricaris very difficult? They look great on the black car that CC-B posted. Those aren't painted, right?
CC-B 07-05-2002 09:38 PM

Trinidriver,

Those black headlight covers ARE painted. That's midnight black.
Stock they are matte black.

Aiming is straightforward, with adjustment screws at the back.
A wiring harness and ALL hardward is included. With a little patience you'll be done installing these in minutes.
I can send you the installation instructions as a pdf file via e-mail if you want

Eddy
westy66 07-08-2002 03:34 PM

the BIG difference between the Orciari and teh UK300 (Prodrrive's) is the fact that the UK's have the leveling motors in them, the Orciari's do not. all you need is some wiring and the UK's can be adjusted in the cabin! and i personally like the design of the UK's better... the Orciari's have that fake azz vent slot in them :rolleyes:

Bob :p
CC-B 07-08-2002 03:43 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by westy66 [/i]
[B]the BIG difference between the Orciari and teh UK300 (Prodrrive's) is the fact that the UK's have the leveling motors in them, the Orciari's do not. Bob :p [/B][/QUOTE]

**SIGH**
Hearsay is such a dangerous thing....

The orciari's come with the leveling motors and the electronics, and the harness, and everything else. The only thing lacking is the switch in side the cabin and the wiring going to that switch.
Attached is a pic showing everything included with the kit.

Eddy

[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/HLexplanation.jpg[/IMG]
westy66 07-09-2002 08:29 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CC-B [/i]
[B]

**SIGH**
Hearsay is such a dangerous thing....

QUOTE]


Oops... my bad... i have been researchin these things for a while until i made my decision and i thought the motors werent mounted in the Ociari's

Bob :(
CC-B 07-11-2002 12:16 AM

You are forgiven :D

Now you know, though... ;) :p

Eddy
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC-B, official distributor for Orciari products[/URL]
raptor5 07-25-2002 05:48 PM

I bought Orciari's from vivid the other week when they had their sale. I got them in and installed. What a pain in the ass. Between having to make my own connectors with supplied hardware to directions that are in italian it was an undertaking. There are instructions in English. Not very good though. Total install time was 4 hours. But I am anal. I cut out the leveling motor wires in the harness and did not install the leveling motor electronic box. Between unused parts, instructions telling me to drill holes where I don't need to and not where I do I was left unimpressed with the instructions. I understand these are foreign but THEY need to realize we have the MONEY so please accomodate our language. Orciari probably saw more sales going to US customers and vendors than anywhere in the world.
I was a little unclear on one thing though. Out of the box these were set up for lefthand drive cars like ours, right.
I still do not have the adjustments correct. Can someone tell me did you leave the backing distance alone on the top (I believe 20mm for highbeams and 10mm for lows) and then adjust bottom screw for height adjustment. Any replies on how YOU did it would help.
Thanks
raptor5

I Love the look of them, very WRCish. If anyone saw the Safari Rally the Subaru WRC car had blinkers in the same postion as the Orciari's.
NSR500 07-25-2002 06:37 PM

Has anyone ever tried cutting out the piece on the Oricaris to make it a usable vent?
andygold 07-25-2002 09:23 PM

On the Ociaris, are the lighting units interchangeable? i.e. If I want the low beams on the outside, can I just swap them around? I like the look of having low beams to the outside, (although I realize if I did this, the blinkers might be harder to see, due to their proximity to the outer lights).

Andy
CC-B 07-26-2002 12:45 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by andygold [/i]
[B]On the Ociaris, are the lighting units interchangeable? i.e. If I want the low beams on the outside, can I just swap them around? [/B][/QUOTE]

In theory: yes. But I don't think anyone has done it. Physically, both units use the same mounting points, so you should be able to swap them around.

Raptor: I'm sorry to hear you had a hard time installing the units. Personally I do not think the instructions are that bad. (BTW: If anyone wants to look at them, send me an e-mail and I'll send you the PDF.) If you want to properly aim your headlights, use these instructions: [URL]http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/how_to/aim/[/URL]

NSR500: The vent piece is one of the projects that is on our list but that we haven't gotten to yet. I'll post pictures when done.

Eddy
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC-B, Official distributor for Orciari[/URL]
Daffy Duck 07-26-2002 12:53 AM

Easy Installation?
 
Another factor (unrelated to styling) is how hard it is to install? Are the wiring preconfigured so it's ready to plug into the stock 9007? Or you need buy another wiring harness or make any modification to make it work properly?

That's my 2 cents.
CC-B 07-26-2002 01:06 AM

Since you are going from a 1-bulb to a 2-bulb setup, the wiring needs to be reconfigured.
The harness and all hardware comes with the Oriciari's, but splicing is required. You can use a male 9007 connector on one end of the harness to make it PnP.

Eddy

[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC_B, Official distributor for Orciari[/URL]
aspera 08-22-2002 03:01 AM

Rallytech
 
I'm trying to get info about Rallytech and the headlight bezels that they offer. John at Rallytech confirmed that they are offering carbon fiber WRC replica headlight bezels, and can supply the lights also. I'm waiting for a reply from him and hopefully a picture. If the picture matches the carbon fiber headlight bezels that I've seen on some of the Prodrive built rally cars, I'll probably get a set.

I need to ask him if the headlights are for a LHD car. I think that none of the lights are projectors, but may have city lights. This keeps the price down and also keeps the cluster light. I haven't figured out VAT, shipping, and duty in US$ yet, but they should be on par with other headlight options. The major difference is that they are (nearly) the real deal. I don't think that they have Prodrive's name on them anywhere.

Please check out Rallytech's website. It's make you wish you owned an EVO.:)
[url]http://www.rallytech.co.uk/[/url]
kalex 08-22-2002 02:37 PM

I hope this will help you out.
 
got it from vivid, it is the UK300 "CF".

Very easy to install; came with some instructions. You have to do some splicing of wires, or buy the adaptor for about $45.
I bought 6 M-F spade connectors and spliced the wires myself. No problems so far.

Hope this helps.

[IMG]http://hpphoto.com/rs/DC524E48-9BEB-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen[/IMG]
[IMG]http://hpphoto.com/rs/599107CE-AB01-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen[/IMG]
CC-B 08-22-2002 02:43 PM

We'll be offering a "CF Look" option for our headights in the next few weeks. Basically, It's a skin of CF over ABS housing. I'll have pictures and price pretty soon.

Eddy
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC-B Automotive[/URL]


[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/HLexplanation.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/close-up.jpg[/IMG]
Schleppy 08-22-2002 03:14 PM

I def want the Orciari's (mainly because they look just like the WRC lights, and have the low-beams in the inside like the WRC car), and I was wondering if anyone has taken the blinker out of the top, left the little hole for a vent, and re-located the blinker somwhere else (behind the grill or something)...

Is that even doable? Also, does anyone know who sells the Orciari lights for the best price?

Thanks!
CC-B 08-22-2002 03:18 PM

On our web site you'l find [URL=http://www.cc-b.com/Links.htm.]a link to our dealers[/URL] . You can get them from us for $675.00 but our dealers might be able to do better.

Eddy
CC-B 09-05-2002 06:50 AM

Preview of the Carbon Fibre covers for the Oriciari WRC headlights:

[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240156[/url]

Eddy
[URL=http://www.cc-b.com]CC-B.com[/URL]
aspera 09-06-2002 02:07 AM

CC-B, thanks for the third brakelight cover. Install is super easy. I didn't even need to use a screwdriver...wouldn't fit anyway.

Nice to see the CF look covers. Real ones would be super, but expensive, sadly.
Arnie 09-16-2002 12:33 AM

How well sealed are the Oriciaris compared to the UK300 form teh elements? The UK300's look like they are one sealed unit while the Oriciari look like everything is exposed and susceptible to water in the electronics, etc.
CC-B 09-16-2002 12:00 PM

Arnie,

both our Orciari's and the UK300's use the same units, Hella's, so there's no difference. The way they are installed is very similar also.

Eddy
Arnie 09-16-2002 12:52 PM

Hi Eddy,

thanks for the reply. I understand that the Hella Units are the same in both but from pictures I have seen of the UK300's, the entire headlight assembly seems to be sealed in the same plastic housing. Its all one unit with no exposed internal parts and a rubber seal around the edge. Here is a link with some pics:

[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=206562&highlight=UK300+headlight[/url]

Are the Orciari's sealed at least as well as this? I'm just worried about water in a pretty critical area. Know what I mean?

Oh, regarding the faux carbon version. You mentioned in your other post that it is a carbon wrapped platic housing. Is that a real carbon wrap or a carbon effect/printed sticker? Not into fake carbon but it does look really good, much better than the matte ABS plastic.

Thanks.
CC-B 09-16-2002 01:49 PM

Arnie,

Looking at the other thread I can say that both units are the same quality. They seem to be using the same seals etc....

About the C/F covers: In my opinion I would say it is C/F "look".
It looks very good and very real, but I guess I'd have to break one to know for certain.

Eddy
Arnie 09-16-2002 02:09 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by CC-B [/i]
[B]Arnie,


It looks very good and very real, but I guess I'd have to break one to know for certain.

Eddy [/B][/QUOTE]

:lol: Thanks, Eddy. Any idea if and when these CF one's will go into production?
CC-B 09-16-2002 02:21 PM

Arnie,

I'll have plenty of them in stock around the 1st week of October. We're hammering out pricing and such right now.

Eddy
Chunky_Chicken 09-16-2002 04:45 PM

Eddy,

I am very close to buying a set of the Ocari Lights, one thing is holding me back.

Should I take a rock into the housing/bezel thing.. would I be able to get a replacement stock bezel at a reasonable cost?

On top of the road hazard excuse, I will probably end up reshaping those huge radius' to make them look like the real WRC lights.

So really... what I'm asking is. Can I get my Ocari's with a spare set of stock bezels? If so, how much more?

Thanks,
-Pete
CC-B 09-16-2002 05:48 PM

Pete,

We carry all spares for the orciari headlights. If you want to purchase a spare set immediately, that's fine by us, but we can always get one to you when you need it. They're $55.00 each.
One of these days I should also have the price for the C/F look covers


Eddy
KZMY 09-17-2002 12:54 AM

WHat the hell ar ethese and who makes them?
 
[IMG]http://www.sprinterpower.com/client/sprinter91801/projector/02WRXProj.jpg[/IMG]
andygold 09-17-2002 01:11 AM

[QUOTE]WHat the hell ar ethese and who makes them? [/QUOTE]

Crap!

Go to Procarparts.com
CC-B 09-17-2002 08:06 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: I probably would have put a little bit more toned down, but that's pretty much an accurate observation.

Thanks, Andygold.
Arnie 09-17-2002 09:22 PM

I've been sitting here the past few days with both the UK300 lights and Orciari's on my screen and I'm starting to lean towards the Orciari's. I think they do look better than the UK300's. I'm really starting to like the shape of the fake vent/turnsignal area on the Orciari better compared to the UK's. I understand that the edges of the openings are not quite as hard edged molded like the real WRC lights but they look really good. I'll probably be placing an order soon.

Eddy- Please post some pics of the faux carbon version when you get them. Some close ups too. I may be leaning towards these, I am ashamed to say!:p I think thematically the fake carbon exterior will go well with the fake aluminum in the interior.:lol:
CC-B 09-17-2002 11:49 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arnie [/i]
[B]
I think thematically the fake carbon exterior will go well with the fake aluminum in the interior.:lol: [/B][/QUOTE]

Errr, thanks.... I guess :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:

Attached are some shots. Light does some funny stuff on this material, so it's very hard to get really good shots. If you want some more, I'll do my best to get some better ones.

[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/CF_HL/CF-cover-detail-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/CF_HL/CF-cover-detail-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/CF_HL/CF-cover-detail-3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/CF_HL/CF-cover-detail-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/CF_HL/CF-cover-detail-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cc-b.com/uploads/CF_HL/0008_small.jpg[/IMG]
Bunuel 11-15-2002 04:42 PM

Any update on these?
CC-B 11-15-2002 05:06 PM

Bunuel,

I will be at Orciari in Italy at the end of the month, and I plan on bringing some sets back with me. Stay tuned.

Eddy
savka 11-15-2002 05:18 PM

morrets with PnP harness $480 @ ALTA Performance!!!
gtguy 11-15-2002 06:48 PM

Here's what's interesting: The Orciaris look better painted, while the Prodrives look better unpainted. Eddy's painted Orciaris look very cool. Unpainted, my preference is for the Prodrives.

Kevin
Arnie 11-15-2002 08:17 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gtguy [/i]
[B]Here's what's interesting: The Orciaris look better painted, while the Prodrives look better unpainted. Eddy's painted Orciaris look very cool. Unpainted, my preference is for the Prodrives.

Kevin [/B][/QUOTE]

I think the Orciaris would look as good as the Prodrives if the plastic were glossy rather than matte.

Has anyone actually seen body color painted Prodrives?
Bunuel 11-18-2002 04:13 AM

[img]http://store1.yimg.com/I/fastwrx_1716_288293[/img]
N'CTRL 11-18-2002 10:17 AM

Does anyone have a shot of the Orciaris painted? I'd perfer a non-closeup shot. One like the above picture would be perfect.

{((MIKE))}

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