| Shik | 11-01-2001 05:50 PM |
WRC-Rally Australia
Well guys, it's here! The rally we've all been waiting for :) RB has a pretty good starting spot in 12th, right ahead of Carlos and Colin. I have butterflies in my stomach right now, I can't imagine how the 6 drivers who are still eligable for the title must feel!!!
This is going to be a good one.
[b]GO TEAM SUBARU!!![/b]
BTW, Subie Gal or Opie, could you make this a "Sticky", at least until next week sometime? Thanks.
This is going to be a good one.
[b]GO TEAM SUBARU!!![/b]
BTW, Subie Gal or Opie, could you make this a "Sticky", at least until next week sometime? Thanks.
| johnfelstead | 11-01-2001 06:27 PM |
No more nonsense at the end of legs
Ford's Carlos Sainz set the fastest time of the first stage of Telstra Rally Australia, but it was teammate Colin McRae who set the agenda for the rest of the first leg in the forests around Mundaring to the east of Perth. Sainz kicked his rally off with a blistering 1 minute 30.5 second blast around the 2.2km Langley Park Superstage. Behind him there were another 19 drivers within two seconds of his time.
However, it was running order not fastest times that were at the forefront of the drivers' minds tonight. The leading drivers believe that the first cars to run on Western Australia's infamous gravel roads are disadvantaged by the 'ball- bearing' gravel that loosely sits on the surface. The first cars have to deal with a thicker coating of the highly slippery stones, but as each car passes, more stones are swept from the road, creating a better surface for the following cars.
In the past, the leading drivers would deliberately slow down to secure a later starting time and better road conditions. This year, the organisers re- introduced the starting order system that allows the FIA Priority 1 drivers (14 in this event) to select their starting position according to their current standing in the FIA World Rally Championship.
Colin McRae and Tommi Makinen are equal first on 40 points, but McRae is ahead on a count back and got first choice. No-one was surprised when he chose to be the 14th car to start tomorrow's leg in Mundaring. Mitsubishi driver Makinen chose 13th, Subaru driver Richard Burns chose 12th, Carlos Sainz chose 11th, and the first of the four Peugeot drivers, Harri Rovanpera, chose 10th. However when it came to the next Peugeot driver on points, Gilles Panizzi, he chose 7th and Didier Auriol chose 8th, leaving the way clear for last year's Telstra Rally Australia winner Marcus Gronholm to run in 9th position.
With four cars in the event, Peugeot was able to exploit a tactical opportunity and ensure that both the drivers they have nominated to score manufacturers' points will have the best possible position on the road. Manufacturers may only nominate two drivers to score points. The next six cars counting down were Francois Delecour (Ford), Petter Solberg (Subaru), Freddy Loix (Mitsubishi), Toshihiro Arai (Subaru), Alister McRae (Hyundai) and Kenneth Eriksson (Hyundai).
Current Australian rally champion Possum Bourne has arguably the second-best position on the road, as the 15th car. Bourne regularly finishes in the top 10 at Telstra Rally Australia and is more than capable of keeping the pressure on the international drivers.
Tomorrow the rally heads into the forests around Mundaring where the cars will contest eight special stages before returning to Langley Park for another crow- pleasing performance on the Superstage. From 9am - 6pm ,Mundaring Town Centre will become a massive service park for the 73 cars.
However, it was running order not fastest times that were at the forefront of the drivers' minds tonight. The leading drivers believe that the first cars to run on Western Australia's infamous gravel roads are disadvantaged by the 'ball- bearing' gravel that loosely sits on the surface. The first cars have to deal with a thicker coating of the highly slippery stones, but as each car passes, more stones are swept from the road, creating a better surface for the following cars.
In the past, the leading drivers would deliberately slow down to secure a later starting time and better road conditions. This year, the organisers re- introduced the starting order system that allows the FIA Priority 1 drivers (14 in this event) to select their starting position according to their current standing in the FIA World Rally Championship.
Colin McRae and Tommi Makinen are equal first on 40 points, but McRae is ahead on a count back and got first choice. No-one was surprised when he chose to be the 14th car to start tomorrow's leg in Mundaring. Mitsubishi driver Makinen chose 13th, Subaru driver Richard Burns chose 12th, Carlos Sainz chose 11th, and the first of the four Peugeot drivers, Harri Rovanpera, chose 10th. However when it came to the next Peugeot driver on points, Gilles Panizzi, he chose 7th and Didier Auriol chose 8th, leaving the way clear for last year's Telstra Rally Australia winner Marcus Gronholm to run in 9th position.
With four cars in the event, Peugeot was able to exploit a tactical opportunity and ensure that both the drivers they have nominated to score manufacturers' points will have the best possible position on the road. Manufacturers may only nominate two drivers to score points. The next six cars counting down were Francois Delecour (Ford), Petter Solberg (Subaru), Freddy Loix (Mitsubishi), Toshihiro Arai (Subaru), Alister McRae (Hyundai) and Kenneth Eriksson (Hyundai).
Current Australian rally champion Possum Bourne has arguably the second-best position on the road, as the 15th car. Bourne regularly finishes in the top 10 at Telstra Rally Australia and is more than capable of keeping the pressure on the international drivers.
Tomorrow the rally heads into the forests around Mundaring where the cars will contest eight special stages before returning to Langley Park for another crow- pleasing performance on the Superstage. From 9am - 6pm ,Mundaring Town Centre will become a massive service park for the 73 cars.
| Mel 22B | 11-01-2001 07:26 PM |
Ok, I cant handle the stress anymore. Would Burns just hurry up and win the championship for Subaru/Prodrive. :)
I like the idea of choosing road positions. The only downside is that I guess the top guys can't baby their cars on day one anymore. Thats a downside for the racers...not the fans.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BURNS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!
-Mel
I like the idea of choosing road positions. The only downside is that I guess the top guys can't baby their cars on day one anymore. Thats a downside for the racers...not the fans.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BURNS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!
-Mel
| trev555 | 11-01-2001 09:37 PM |
Pics from the opening night
Hi Guys - I've got some pics i took from last night:
| Mel 22B | 11-01-2001 09:41 PM |
Whoa, now that's some illumination. :eek: :eek:
-Mel
-Mel
| trev555 | 11-01-2001 09:43 PM |
more pics - thursday night
Subaru WRC before event:
| trev555 | 11-01-2001 09:44 PM |
more pics...
New Evo 7s:
| trev555 | 11-01-2001 09:46 PM |
more pics...
Solberg on the track:
| trev555 | 11-01-2001 09:47 PM |
more pics...
Service:
| trev555 | 11-01-2001 09:54 PM |
more pics...
Parc Ferme. Now there's a garage I'd like to have... :)
| Shik | 11-02-2001 05:56 AM |
As of SS9
2. Burns
4.McRae
6.Makinen
7.Solberg
11.Sainz
I'm tempted to stay home from work just to follow this! I can't stand it :lol:
Go Subaru!!!
[url]www.rally-live.com/en/[/url]
2. Burns
4.McRae
6.Makinen
7.Solberg
11.Sainz
I'm tempted to stay home from work just to follow this! I can't stand it :lol:
Go Subaru!!!
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| wrx182 | 11-02-2001 08:28 AM |
:eek: :eek: :eek: I AM SOOOOOO JEALOUS!@!!!! I need to move to Australia....I can't believe your just walking around the garage taking pics and ****.....I would LOVE to see that car in person.....They should do Rally of America next:D
And trev, get ALOT of pics if you can...And video would be amazing too....I would love to stand next to the track as they come ripping by....Anyways dude, get some good media of that:D
And trev, get ALOT of pics if you can...And video would be amazing too....I would love to stand next to the track as they come ripping by....Anyways dude, get some good media of that:D
| nicd | 11-02-2001 09:10 AM |
Poooor Colin
Just off from the Scooby net bbs
According to BBC News ([url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/in_depth/2001/world_rally_2001/newsid_1633000/1633585.stm[/url]) Colin McRae has missed the draw for starting positions for tomorrow (Saturday) and will have to run first.
Not sure what happened exactly - presumably he just didn't turn up when they were deciding tomorrows positions.
Should put Burnsie in a good position!
Didn't smirk at all when I read this!!
According to BBC News ([url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/in_depth/2001/world_rally_2001/newsid_1633000/1633585.stm[/url]) Colin McRae has missed the draw for starting positions for tomorrow (Saturday) and will have to run first.
Not sure what happened exactly - presumably he just didn't turn up when they were deciding tomorrows positions.
Should put Burnsie in a good position!
Didn't smirk at all when I read this!!
| Subie Gal | 11-02-2001 09:31 AM |
JUST LOOK AT THOSE TIMES!!!
Overall rankings after SS10
1 -Gronholm/Rautiainen
Peugeot 206 1h25'56"3
2 -Burns/Reid
Subaru Impre 1h25'59"9
3 -Auriol/Giraudet
Peugeot 206 1h26'00"1
4 -C.Mcrae/Grist
Ford Focus W 1h26'01"6
5 -Rovanpera/Pietilainen
Peugeot 206 1h26'12"2
naaaaah.. this aint a close race at all :rolleyes:
:D gooooo Burnsy!!
and Solberg is in 7th!!!
sounds like a hell of a rally!
really wanna see this one someday....
[url]www.rally-live.com[/url]
Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
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Go Burns * Go Burns * Go Burns * Go Burns
1 -Gronholm/Rautiainen
Peugeot 206 1h25'56"3
2 -Burns/Reid
Subaru Impre 1h25'59"9
3 -Auriol/Giraudet
Peugeot 206 1h26'00"1
4 -C.Mcrae/Grist
Ford Focus W 1h26'01"6
5 -Rovanpera/Pietilainen
Peugeot 206 1h26'12"2
naaaaah.. this aint a close race at all :rolleyes:
:D gooooo Burnsy!!
and Solberg is in 7th!!!
sounds like a hell of a rally!
really wanna see this one someday....
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Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
***************
Go Burns * Go Burns * Go Burns * Go Burns
| Patrick L | 11-02-2001 09:38 AM |
Check the paint scheme on this car. That a US Rally Team car.
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3595/1d/www.rally-live.com/2001/photos/2001/australie/diapo_104.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://a324.g.akamai.net/f/324/3595/1d/www.rally-live.com/2001/photos/2001/australie/diapo_104.jpg[/IMG]
| Mel 22B | 11-02-2001 11:49 AM |
*bites nails clean off*
Oh baby, dis is gonna be one close rally.
Go Burnsy go!!!
Oh baby, dis is gonna be one close rally.
Go Burnsy go!!!
| johnfelstead | 11-02-2001 02:39 PM |
[quote]The world championship aspirations of Colin McRae may have been dealt a serious blow tonight after the Ford driver failed to arrive to select his starting order position on time. According to the rules of the event, he forfeited his opportunity to choose and was relegated to first on the road, a position from where it is much more difficult to set fastest times. The Ford team has protested, however the result may not be known until the early hours of Saturday morning.[/quote]
This is incredibly serious for Colin. We will know in just a few hours whether he has just blown his chances in the 2001 Championship.
He is looking at finishing outside the points, it's that serious! :eek:
This is incredibly serious for Colin. We will know in just a few hours whether he has just blown his chances in the 2001 Championship.
He is looking at finishing outside the points, it's that serious! :eek:
| 10th Warrior | 11-02-2001 03:18 PM |
actually Pat, that's the paint scheme they use on all factory backed, non-WRC team cars now, including USA, Canada, and Asian-Pacific, which is what that car is, since its Possum Bourne driving. subaru has him run the WRC events in Australia and his native New Zealand.
McRae does appear to be quite screwed. i just hope solberg can edge out makinen, think of the bragging rights for next year :lol: burns is doing a great job and is in an excellent position. poor sainz though, he was so quick until he stopped to smell the trees :(
McRae does appear to be quite screwed. i just hope solberg can edge out makinen, think of the bragging rights for next year :lol: burns is doing a great job and is in an excellent position. poor sainz though, he was so quick until he stopped to smell the trees :(
| Mel 22B | 11-02-2001 05:37 PM |
"Late in the evening Ford withdrew any query or protest concerning the seeding of McRae at the head of the field for leg 2, on the basis that it was "in the best interests of the sport." It is thought that both Subaru and Peugeot were ready to "counter protest" if he was reinstated or given a choice.
Had Ford persisted the whole matter could have ended up at the FIA for judgement and that would have done no-one any good.
McRae has a mountain - or rather a big pile of gravel - to climb tomorrow. He will be fortunate to salvage many points unless a high rate of attrition depletes the ranks of the front runners.
If a similar method of deciding seeding is adopted on other gravel rallies in the future this will doubtless be a salutory lesson to all."
[b]He is done. McRae starts first. I cant help but feel bad for him. It looks great for Burns tho. McRae's start position will kill him on day 2 and Makinen and Sainz are "off the back". [/b]
[b]-Mel[/b]
Had Ford persisted the whole matter could have ended up at the FIA for judgement and that would have done no-one any good.
McRae has a mountain - or rather a big pile of gravel - to climb tomorrow. He will be fortunate to salvage many points unless a high rate of attrition depletes the ranks of the front runners.
If a similar method of deciding seeding is adopted on other gravel rallies in the future this will doubtless be a salutory lesson to all."
[b]He is done. McRae starts first. I cant help but feel bad for him. It looks great for Burns tho. McRae's start position will kill him on day 2 and Makinen and Sainz are "off the back". [/b]
[b]-Mel[/b]
| johnfelstead | 11-02-2001 07:18 PM |
McRae needs a miracle now to score any points. He would have become world champion in Aus if he won the event. Based on what i saw on TV tonight Burns has this one in the bag unless he loses concentration. His engine cut 3 times on one stage yet he was still 3rd quickest. He is pacing himself by the looks of it. (still near the limit but not taking risks)
Makinen, forget him, he is in serious pain on the stages and isnt driving flat out. It has been revealed he has a cracked vertibae too. He is saying the EVO is heavy and unweildy.
I expect Burns and Petter to be right up front on Leg 2, Petter did a great job considering his start position for leg1, he looked really smooth and controlled.
The pugs are flying, really quick. I still think the Impreza is a better car all round though.
Poor Colin, what a screwup. He is going to look spectacular. I hope he doesnt have a big crash because he will have to really push hard now.
Makinen, forget him, he is in serious pain on the stages and isnt driving flat out. It has been revealed he has a cracked vertibae too. He is saying the EVO is heavy and unweildy.
I expect Burns and Petter to be right up front on Leg 2, Petter did a great job considering his start position for leg1, he looked really smooth and controlled.
The pugs are flying, really quick. I still think the Impreza is a better car all round though.
Poor Colin, what a screwup. He is going to look spectacular. I hope he doesnt have a big crash because he will have to really push hard now.
| Adrian128 | 11-02-2001 08:23 PM |
that's not Possum
That's not Possum Bourne in that pic. He is still driving last year's car. That car in the pic (#30) is being driven by Achim Mortl and Stefan Eichorner. Just FYI. :)
| Idjiit | 11-02-2001 10:28 PM |
Oh man... Delacour must be soooo pissed right.
All I have to say is go Petter! He's doing great, considering Burns has a way better starting position...
All I have to say is go Petter! He's doing great, considering Burns has a way better starting position...
| joe z | 11-03-2001 01:20 AM |
go burns go petter!!!!
| Clement | 11-03-2001 02:23 AM |
Delecour went out apparently in a big crash. I haven't heard/read anything about what caused the crash, but he was probably pushing very hard in frustration of the team orders. I think they're both okay now. Delecour has been cleared by doctors and his co-driver Grataloup is described as "stable and satisfactory".
Burns is now 17seconds behind Gronholm as of the end of SS14. Com'on Burns! Gotta get a move on it :D And whoever said Colin McRae won't score any points may have to eat their words later. He's in 5th and has a 1-minute cushion between him and our man Petter running 6th.
Burns is now 17seconds behind Gronholm as of the end of SS14. Com'on Burns! Gotta get a move on it :D And whoever said Colin McRae won't score any points may have to eat their words later. He's in 5th and has a 1-minute cushion between him and our man Petter running 6th.
| Subie Gal | 11-03-2001 10:12 AM |
Grataloup broke 3 ribs... :(
it's always the co-driver aint it....
Burnsy's doing great!
but them pugs are amazin!!!!
hang in there Burns!!! go for it baby!
fantastic rally! really good show!
j.
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
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Go Burns! Go Burns!
it's always the co-driver aint it....
Burnsy's doing great!
but them pugs are amazin!!!!
hang in there Burns!!! go for it baby!
fantastic rally! really good show!
j.
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
***************
Go Burns! Go Burns!
| Idjiit | 11-03-2001 04:55 PM |
Kudos again to Colin McRae for holding on to 5th given the conditions... I imagine the rain helped him out a little.
| johnfelstead | 11-03-2001 06:41 PM |
Looks like Colin got his mini Miracle.
The longest stage on the rally was the one cancelled due to Delecours crash. He then had rain which made conditions more even. (rain in November, summer! in perth is pretty rare.)
He also got away with a real close one, within an inch of going off perminantly, kinking the underside of the shell badly but losing no time.
Colin has driven a stormer, brilliant drive!
Delecours crash was horendous. Just watched it on TV from the onborad camera. They were in top gear, 115MPH or so and lost the rear which hit on delecours side first but that threw the car sideways and they hit a big tree side on at over 100MPH bang on the co-drivers door. It felled the tree which lay on top of the car!
It's absolutely amazing the consequencies were not more serious. Thank goodness for that. Modern WRC cars are amazing pieces of kit.
Richard was a biy toss on the first stage of today, he said so himself. After that he was OK but had a few problems with the car. One stage he couldnt change down below 4th gear and then he lost his gear display completely so wasnt sure what gear he was in.
Gronholme has driven perfectly, he had the front steering changed this morning as that was a bit iffy day one, he says thats transformed the car and it feels perfect now. His lines are awesome, very precise. He should win now unless something freeky happens.
Makinen isnt hurting as much today so is able to push a bit harder, from the onboard shots he seriously hates the new car, it's fun as he slaggs it off mid corner. :lol:
Petter is driving a good rally but should push just a little harder, Burns needs him in front of Makinen ideally.
This rally is fabulous, at last we are seeing flat out driving through the whole event and non of the rediculous jockying for position at the end of the legs. This is the way it should be. :D
The longest stage on the rally was the one cancelled due to Delecours crash. He then had rain which made conditions more even. (rain in November, summer! in perth is pretty rare.)
He also got away with a real close one, within an inch of going off perminantly, kinking the underside of the shell badly but losing no time.
Colin has driven a stormer, brilliant drive!
Delecours crash was horendous. Just watched it on TV from the onborad camera. They were in top gear, 115MPH or so and lost the rear which hit on delecours side first but that threw the car sideways and they hit a big tree side on at over 100MPH bang on the co-drivers door. It felled the tree which lay on top of the car!
It's absolutely amazing the consequencies were not more serious. Thank goodness for that. Modern WRC cars are amazing pieces of kit.
Richard was a biy toss on the first stage of today, he said so himself. After that he was OK but had a few problems with the car. One stage he couldnt change down below 4th gear and then he lost his gear display completely so wasnt sure what gear he was in.
Gronholme has driven perfectly, he had the front steering changed this morning as that was a bit iffy day one, he says thats transformed the car and it feels perfect now. His lines are awesome, very precise. He should win now unless something freeky happens.
Makinen isnt hurting as much today so is able to push a bit harder, from the onboard shots he seriously hates the new car, it's fun as he slaggs it off mid corner. :lol:
Petter is driving a good rally but should push just a little harder, Burns needs him in front of Makinen ideally.
This rally is fabulous, at last we are seeing flat out driving through the whole event and non of the rediculous jockying for position at the end of the legs. This is the way it should be. :D
| johnfelstead | 11-03-2001 07:56 PM |
and there off!! :D
Burns fastest, Gronholme just 0.4 seconds slower, rovenpera 2.2 slower and Colin 5 seconds slower. This is over 34 kilometres. Nuts or what? :D
Overall after special stage 18 the standings are as below, two more plus the super stupid to go.
1. 1 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA Peugeot 206 A8 2h37'24"900 106.8 km/h 1 1
2. 5 BURNS-REID Subaru Impr A8 2h37'58"800 + 00'33"90 2 2
3. 2 AURIOL-GIRAUDET Peugeot 206 A8 2h38'29"700 + 01'04"80 3 3
4. 16 ROVANPERA-PIETI Peugeot 206 A8 2h38'42"900 + 01'18"00 4 4
5. 4 C.McRAE-GRIST Ford Focus A8 2h39'14"500 + 01'49"60 5 5
6. 7 MAKINEN-HANTUNE Mitsubishi A8 2h40'17"200 + 02'52"30 6 6
7. 6 SOLBERG-MILLS Subaru Impr A8 2h40'28"500 + 03'03"60 7 7
8. 19 PANIZZI-PANIZZI Peugeot 206 A8 2h41'41"100 + 04'16"20 8 8
9. 3 SAINZ-MOYA Ford Focus A8 2h42'04"700 + 04'39"80 9 9
10. 10 A.McRAE-SENIOR Hyundai Acc A8 2h43'32"700 + 06'07"80 10 10
11. 8 LOIX-SMEETS Mitsubishi A8 2h44'08"700 + 06'43"80 11 11
12. 9 ERIKSSON-PARMAN Hyundai Acc A8 2h44'12"800 + 06'47"90 12 12
If things stay as they are the championship will look like this.
McRae 42
Makinen 41
Burns 40
Sainz 33
Rovanpera 30
So it would still be posible for any of the top 4 to be champion. :eek:
If Burns, McRae or Makinen were to win on the NetworkQ they would be champion irespective of the other placings. We desperately need the Peugeot's to stay in the running to give richard a guaranteed shot at the title, something he has never had before.
Excited yet Jamie? :D:lol:
I am off to bed. grrrrrrr. Not knowing is gonna bug me. :D
Burns fastest, Gronholme just 0.4 seconds slower, rovenpera 2.2 slower and Colin 5 seconds slower. This is over 34 kilometres. Nuts or what? :D
Overall after special stage 18 the standings are as below, two more plus the super stupid to go.
1. 1 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA Peugeot 206 A8 2h37'24"900 106.8 km/h 1 1
2. 5 BURNS-REID Subaru Impr A8 2h37'58"800 + 00'33"90 2 2
3. 2 AURIOL-GIRAUDET Peugeot 206 A8 2h38'29"700 + 01'04"80 3 3
4. 16 ROVANPERA-PIETI Peugeot 206 A8 2h38'42"900 + 01'18"00 4 4
5. 4 C.McRAE-GRIST Ford Focus A8 2h39'14"500 + 01'49"60 5 5
6. 7 MAKINEN-HANTUNE Mitsubishi A8 2h40'17"200 + 02'52"30 6 6
7. 6 SOLBERG-MILLS Subaru Impr A8 2h40'28"500 + 03'03"60 7 7
8. 19 PANIZZI-PANIZZI Peugeot 206 A8 2h41'41"100 + 04'16"20 8 8
9. 3 SAINZ-MOYA Ford Focus A8 2h42'04"700 + 04'39"80 9 9
10. 10 A.McRAE-SENIOR Hyundai Acc A8 2h43'32"700 + 06'07"80 10 10
11. 8 LOIX-SMEETS Mitsubishi A8 2h44'08"700 + 06'43"80 11 11
12. 9 ERIKSSON-PARMAN Hyundai Acc A8 2h44'12"800 + 06'47"90 12 12
If things stay as they are the championship will look like this.
McRae 42
Makinen 41
Burns 40
Sainz 33
Rovanpera 30
So it would still be posible for any of the top 4 to be champion. :eek:
If Burns, McRae or Makinen were to win on the NetworkQ they would be champion irespective of the other placings. We desperately need the Peugeot's to stay in the running to give richard a guaranteed shot at the title, something he has never had before.
Excited yet Jamie? :D:lol:
I am off to bed. grrrrrrr. Not knowing is gonna bug me. :D
| ScoobyRSRallier | 11-03-2001 10:03 PM |
anyone know where i can get a dvd of last years wrc? pm me me if you do....thanks
-ben
-ben
| Shik | 11-04-2001 12:59 AM |
It's all over, and the unofficial results did indeed stay the same as what John posted earlier.
What a rally! So it's simple now. Burns wins the RAC, he wins the title. Go Subaru!
Pity fory Sainz, and one could only wonder just how different it would have been had McRae not have been "penalised", but I'm not complaining at the moment. ;)
And hats off to Peugeot for a [i]almost[/i] total domination of the rally. Marcus was simply un-catchable I think.
Congrats to RB and the SWRT! Thank you, this is what we needed. Best of luck at the RAC.
What a rally! So it's simple now. Burns wins the RAC, he wins the title. Go Subaru!
Pity fory Sainz, and one could only wonder just how different it would have been had McRae not have been "penalised", but I'm not complaining at the moment. ;)
And hats off to Peugeot for a [i]almost[/i] total domination of the rally. Marcus was simply un-catchable I think.
Congrats to RB and the SWRT! Thank you, this is what we needed. Best of luck at the RAC.
| In2Deep | 11-04-2001 03:09 AM |
Wow! That was an awesome one, can't wait for the season finale... what a nailbiter!
My money is on Burns... can he make it 4 in a row on home turf? You betcha!
My money is on Burns... can he make it 4 in a row on home turf? You betcha!
| johnfelstead | 11-04-2001 07:46 AM |
Perfect result, thanks Peugeot! LOL
Final standings
1. 1 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA Peugeot 206 A8 3h17'01"300 107.0 km/h 1 1
2. 5 BURNS-REID Subaru Impr A8 3h17'41"700 + 00'40"40 2 2
3. 2 AURIOL-GIRAUDET Peugeot 206 A8 3h18'21"400 + 01'20"10 3 3
4. 16 ROVANPERA-PIETI Peugeot 206 A8 3h18'32"200 + 01'30"90 4 4
5. 4 C.McRAE-GRIST Ford Focus A8 3h18'41"300 + 01'40"00 5 5
6. 7 MAKINEN-HANTUNE Mitsubishi A8 3h20'04"000 + 03'02"70 6 6
7. 6 SOLBERG-MILLS Subaru Impr A8 3h20'42"500 + 03'41"20 7 7
8. 3 SAINZ-MOYA Ford Focus A8 3h22'00"500 + 04'59"20 8 8
9. 19 PANIZZI-PANIZZI Peugeot 206 A8 3h22'10"300 + 05'09"00 9 9
10. 10 A.McRAE-SENIOR Hyundai Acc A8 3h24'33"000 + 07'31"70 10 10
11. 8 LOIX-SMEETS Mitsubishi A8 3h24'54"300 + 07'53"00 11 11
12. 9 ERIKSSON-PARMAN Hyundai Acc A8 3h25'17"000 + 08'15"70 12 12
13. 24 AL WAHAIBI-SIRC Subaru Impr A8 3h25'54"700 + 08'53"40 13 13
14. 22 LUNDGAARD-ANKER Toyota Coro A8 3h26'59"700 + 09'58"40 14 14
15. 30 MORTL-EICHORNER Subaru Impr A8 3h28'08"500 + 11'07"20 15 15
16. 21 HAGSTROM-GARDEM Toyota Coro A8 3h28'13"700 + 11'12"40 16 16
17. 28 ORDYNSKI-STEWAR Mitsubishi N4 3h34'27"200 + 17'25"90 1 1
18. 32 POZZO-STILLO Mitsubishi N4 3h34'48"500 + 17'47"20 2 2
19. 45 DUVAL-FORTIN Mitsubishi N4 3h35'19"000 + 18'17"70 3 3
20. 27 KANGAS-OVASKAIN Mitsubishi N4 3h35'23"500 + 18'22"20 4 4
21. 26 CROCKER-FOLETTA Subaru Impr N4 3h37'22"600 + 20'21"30 5 5
22. 31 STOHL-MULLER Mitsubishi N4 3h38'22"600 + 21'21"30 6 6
23. 34 BLOMQVIST-GONI Mitsubishi N4 3h40'39"600 + 23'38"30 7 7
24. 38 HERRIDGE-CARLTO Subaru Impr N4 3h41'05"800 + 24'04"50 8 8
25. 42 MANFRINATO-COND Mitsubishi N4 3h41'24"900 + 24'23"60 9 9
26. 29 IPATTI-MARTTILA Subaru Impr N4 3h42'54"800 + 25'53"50 10 10
27. 33 LIGATO-GARCIA Mitsubishi N4 3h43'23"300 + 26'22"00 11 11
28. 46 JONES-BULT Mitsubishi N4 3h45'32"000 + 28'30"70 12 12
29. 39 WARREN-JUDD Mitsubishi A8 3h47'08"200 + 30'06"90 17 17
30. 44 THOMPSON-BODDY Mitsubishi N4 3h47'44"600 + 30'43"30 13 13
31. 58 COLSOUL-COLSOUL Mitsubishi N4 3h48'43"100 + 31'41"80 14 14
32. 54 HILLS-DRAKE Mitsubishi N4 3h50'31"800 + 33'30"50 15 15
33. 65 MARDEN-PERCIVAL Subaru Impr N2 3h53'15"600 + 36'14"30 16 1
34. 47 BALDINI-AGOSTIN Mitsubishi N4 3h53'48"500 + 36'47"20 17 16
35. 53 DUNLOP-DUNLOP Mitsubishi N4 3h54'54"100 + 37'52"80 18 17
36. 37 BARRATT-FREEMAN Mitsubishi N4 3h59'10"900 + 42'09"60 19 18
37. 36 HEATH-LANCASTER Subaru Impr A8 4h00'01"900 + 43'00"60 18 18
38. 62 ANDERSON-ANDERS Mitsubishi N4 4h02'34"000 + 45'32"70 20 19
39. 67 HANNIGAN-HANNIG Daihatsu Ch A6 4h03'55"800 + 46'54"50 19 1
40. 60 TAKAKUWA-FLINTO Subaru Impr N4 4h07'32"800 + 50'31"50 21 20
41. 61 DINES-MARSHALL Mitsubishi A8 4h07'47"300 + 50'46"00 20 19
42. 64 HEDGELAND-FEAVE Subaru Impr A8 4h10'35"000 + 53'33"70 21 20
43. 72 DIROU-DRURY Mitsubishi N4 4h11'01"200 + 53'59"90 22 21
44. 63 KIRKE-MOORE Subaru Impr N4 4h11'37"500 + 54'36"20 23 22
45. 68 COMBER-COMBER Daihatsu Ch A6 4h16'48"300 + 59'47"00 22 2
46. 71 POWELL-BENNETT Mitsubishi N4 4h23'28"900 + 1h06'27" 24 23
47. 74 HENDRY-WILSON Proton Satr N1 4h30'14"900 + 1h13'13" 25 1
48. 69 FUNAKI-SONADA Subaru Vivi N1 4h33'19"000 + 1h16'17" 26 2
49. 70 WHYATT-COX Mitsubishi A8 4h38'34"800 + 1h21'33" 23 21
50. 78 ROBERTSON-REEVE Daihatsu Ch A6 4h51'08"200 + 1h34'06" 24 3
51. 79 PARTRIDGE-HANCO Daihatsu Ch A6 5h07'19"100 + 1h50'17" 25 4
52. 96 DARTNELL-SMITH Hyundai Cou A7 5h08'24"900 + 1h51'23" 26 1
championship positions, drivers
Colin MCRAE (GB) 0 0 0 0 10 10 10 0 4 6 0 0 2 -- 42
Tommi MAKINEN (FIN) 10 0 10 4 3 0 3 10 0 0 0 0 1 -- 41
Richard BURNS (GB) 0 0 3 0 6 6 0 0 6 10 0 3 6 -- 40
Carlos SAINZ (E) 6 4 6 2 4 4 0 0 1 3 3 0 0 -- 33
Harri ROVANPERA (FIN) -- 10 0 -- 0 0 4 6 3 4 0 0 3 -- 30
Marcus GRONHOLM (FIN) 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 10 2 0 0 10 -- 26
Didier AURIOL (F) 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 4 4 -- 23
Gilles PANIZZI (F) 0 -- 0 6 -- 0 0 -- 0 -- 10 6 0 -- 22
François DELECOUR (F) 4 2 2 1 0 0 2 3 0 0 1 0 0 -- 15
Petter SOLBERG (N) 0 1 0 0 2 0 6 0 0 0 0 2 0 -- 11
Jesus PURAS (E) -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- 0 10 -- -- 10
Freddy LOIX (B) 1 0 0 3 1 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 -- 9
Armin SCHWARZ (D) 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 -- 0 0 -- -- 7
Thomas RADSTROM (S) -- 6 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- 6
Sébastien LOEB (F) 0 0 -- 0 -- -- 0 -- 0 -- 6 0 -- -- 6
Toni GARDEMEISTER (FIN) 2 3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 0 0 -- -- -- -- 5
Toshihiro ARAI (J) -- -- -- -- 0 3 0 0 -- 0 0 0 0 -- 3
Markko MARTIN (EST) 0 0 0 0 -- -- 0 -- 2 -- 0 1 -- -- 3
Renato TRAVAGLIA (I) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 -- -- -- 2
Alister MCRAE (GB) 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0 0 0 0 0 -- 1
Pasi HAGSTROM (FIN) -- 0 0 0 -- 1 0 -- 0 -- 0 -- 0 -- 1
Philippe BUGALSKI (F) 0 -- 0 0 -- -- 1 -- -- -- 0 0 -- -- 1
Gabriel POZZO (RA) -- -- 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 -- 1
Championship positions, Manufacturers
PEUGEOT 0 0 4 16 0 0 0 6 13 5 16 16 14 -- 90
FORD 6 8 6 2 14 14 10 0 6 10 7 0 3 -- 86
MITSUBISHI 13 10 10 7 4 3 6 13 0 0 1 0 2 -- 69
SUBARU 0 4 3 1 8 6 6 0 7 11 2 7 7 -- 62
SKODA 5 1 0 0 0 1 4 4 0 -- 0 0 -- -- 15
HYUNDAI 2 3 3 0 0 2 0 -- 0 0 0 3 0 -- 13
So Sainz, Makinen, McRae or Burns can win the championship now for drivers. Either Ford or Peugeot can do the Manufacturers.
The NetworkQ is gonna be awesome with those four absolutely flat out, you'll also have gronholme and rovenpera flat out for the manufacturers title, get your calculators ready!:lol: I'll be there with a rather enthusiatic I-Club member. I cant wait now. :D
1. 1 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA Peugeot 206 A8 3h17'01"300 107.0 km/h 1 1
2. 5 BURNS-REID Subaru Impr A8 3h17'41"700 + 00'40"40 2 2
3. 2 AURIOL-GIRAUDET Peugeot 206 A8 3h18'21"400 + 01'20"10 3 3
4. 16 ROVANPERA-PIETI Peugeot 206 A8 3h18'32"200 + 01'30"90 4 4
5. 4 C.McRAE-GRIST Ford Focus A8 3h18'41"300 + 01'40"00 5 5
6. 7 MAKINEN-HANTUNE Mitsubishi A8 3h20'04"000 + 03'02"70 6 6
7. 6 SOLBERG-MILLS Subaru Impr A8 3h20'42"500 + 03'41"20 7 7
8. 3 SAINZ-MOYA Ford Focus A8 3h22'00"500 + 04'59"20 8 8
9. 19 PANIZZI-PANIZZI Peugeot 206 A8 3h22'10"300 + 05'09"00 9 9
10. 10 A.McRAE-SENIOR Hyundai Acc A8 3h24'33"000 + 07'31"70 10 10
11. 8 LOIX-SMEETS Mitsubishi A8 3h24'54"300 + 07'53"00 11 11
12. 9 ERIKSSON-PARMAN Hyundai Acc A8 3h25'17"000 + 08'15"70 12 12
13. 24 AL WAHAIBI-SIRC Subaru Impr A8 3h25'54"700 + 08'53"40 13 13
14. 22 LUNDGAARD-ANKER Toyota Coro A8 3h26'59"700 + 09'58"40 14 14
15. 30 MORTL-EICHORNER Subaru Impr A8 3h28'08"500 + 11'07"20 15 15
16. 21 HAGSTROM-GARDEM Toyota Coro A8 3h28'13"700 + 11'12"40 16 16
17. 28 ORDYNSKI-STEWAR Mitsubishi N4 3h34'27"200 + 17'25"90 1 1
18. 32 POZZO-STILLO Mitsubishi N4 3h34'48"500 + 17'47"20 2 2
19. 45 DUVAL-FORTIN Mitsubishi N4 3h35'19"000 + 18'17"70 3 3
20. 27 KANGAS-OVASKAIN Mitsubishi N4 3h35'23"500 + 18'22"20 4 4
21. 26 CROCKER-FOLETTA Subaru Impr N4 3h37'22"600 + 20'21"30 5 5
22. 31 STOHL-MULLER Mitsubishi N4 3h38'22"600 + 21'21"30 6 6
23. 34 BLOMQVIST-GONI Mitsubishi N4 3h40'39"600 + 23'38"30 7 7
24. 38 HERRIDGE-CARLTO Subaru Impr N4 3h41'05"800 + 24'04"50 8 8
25. 42 MANFRINATO-COND Mitsubishi N4 3h41'24"900 + 24'23"60 9 9
26. 29 IPATTI-MARTTILA Subaru Impr N4 3h42'54"800 + 25'53"50 10 10
27. 33 LIGATO-GARCIA Mitsubishi N4 3h43'23"300 + 26'22"00 11 11
28. 46 JONES-BULT Mitsubishi N4 3h45'32"000 + 28'30"70 12 12
29. 39 WARREN-JUDD Mitsubishi A8 3h47'08"200 + 30'06"90 17 17
30. 44 THOMPSON-BODDY Mitsubishi N4 3h47'44"600 + 30'43"30 13 13
31. 58 COLSOUL-COLSOUL Mitsubishi N4 3h48'43"100 + 31'41"80 14 14
32. 54 HILLS-DRAKE Mitsubishi N4 3h50'31"800 + 33'30"50 15 15
33. 65 MARDEN-PERCIVAL Subaru Impr N2 3h53'15"600 + 36'14"30 16 1
34. 47 BALDINI-AGOSTIN Mitsubishi N4 3h53'48"500 + 36'47"20 17 16
35. 53 DUNLOP-DUNLOP Mitsubishi N4 3h54'54"100 + 37'52"80 18 17
36. 37 BARRATT-FREEMAN Mitsubishi N4 3h59'10"900 + 42'09"60 19 18
37. 36 HEATH-LANCASTER Subaru Impr A8 4h00'01"900 + 43'00"60 18 18
38. 62 ANDERSON-ANDERS Mitsubishi N4 4h02'34"000 + 45'32"70 20 19
39. 67 HANNIGAN-HANNIG Daihatsu Ch A6 4h03'55"800 + 46'54"50 19 1
40. 60 TAKAKUWA-FLINTO Subaru Impr N4 4h07'32"800 + 50'31"50 21 20
41. 61 DINES-MARSHALL Mitsubishi A8 4h07'47"300 + 50'46"00 20 19
42. 64 HEDGELAND-FEAVE Subaru Impr A8 4h10'35"000 + 53'33"70 21 20
43. 72 DIROU-DRURY Mitsubishi N4 4h11'01"200 + 53'59"90 22 21
44. 63 KIRKE-MOORE Subaru Impr N4 4h11'37"500 + 54'36"20 23 22
45. 68 COMBER-COMBER Daihatsu Ch A6 4h16'48"300 + 59'47"00 22 2
46. 71 POWELL-BENNETT Mitsubishi N4 4h23'28"900 + 1h06'27" 24 23
47. 74 HENDRY-WILSON Proton Satr N1 4h30'14"900 + 1h13'13" 25 1
48. 69 FUNAKI-SONADA Subaru Vivi N1 4h33'19"000 + 1h16'17" 26 2
49. 70 WHYATT-COX Mitsubishi A8 4h38'34"800 + 1h21'33" 23 21
50. 78 ROBERTSON-REEVE Daihatsu Ch A6 4h51'08"200 + 1h34'06" 24 3
51. 79 PARTRIDGE-HANCO Daihatsu Ch A6 5h07'19"100 + 1h50'17" 25 4
52. 96 DARTNELL-SMITH Hyundai Cou A7 5h08'24"900 + 1h51'23" 26 1
championship positions, drivers
Colin MCRAE (GB) 0 0 0 0 10 10 10 0 4 6 0 0 2 -- 42
Tommi MAKINEN (FIN) 10 0 10 4 3 0 3 10 0 0 0 0 1 -- 41
Richard BURNS (GB) 0 0 3 0 6 6 0 0 6 10 0 3 6 -- 40
Carlos SAINZ (E) 6 4 6 2 4 4 0 0 1 3 3 0 0 -- 33
Harri ROVANPERA (FIN) -- 10 0 -- 0 0 4 6 3 4 0 0 3 -- 30
Marcus GRONHOLM (FIN) 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 10 2 0 0 10 -- 26
Didier AURIOL (F) 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 4 4 -- 23
Gilles PANIZZI (F) 0 -- 0 6 -- 0 0 -- 0 -- 10 6 0 -- 22
François DELECOUR (F) 4 2 2 1 0 0 2 3 0 0 1 0 0 -- 15
Petter SOLBERG (N) 0 1 0 0 2 0 6 0 0 0 0 2 0 -- 11
Jesus PURAS (E) -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- 0 10 -- -- 10
Freddy LOIX (B) 1 0 0 3 1 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 -- 9
Armin SCHWARZ (D) 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 -- 0 0 -- -- 7
Thomas RADSTROM (S) -- 6 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- 0 -- -- -- 6
Sébastien LOEB (F) 0 0 -- 0 -- -- 0 -- 0 -- 6 0 -- -- 6
Toni GARDEMEISTER (FIN) 2 3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 0 0 -- -- -- -- 5
Toshihiro ARAI (J) -- -- -- -- 0 3 0 0 -- 0 0 0 0 -- 3
Markko MARTIN (EST) 0 0 0 0 -- -- 0 -- 2 -- 0 1 -- -- 3
Renato TRAVAGLIA (I) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 -- -- -- 2
Alister MCRAE (GB) 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0 0 0 0 0 -- 1
Pasi HAGSTROM (FIN) -- 0 0 0 -- 1 0 -- 0 -- 0 -- 0 -- 1
Philippe BUGALSKI (F) 0 -- 0 0 -- -- 1 -- -- -- 0 0 -- -- 1
Gabriel POZZO (RA) -- -- 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 -- 1
Championship positions, Manufacturers
PEUGEOT 0 0 4 16 0 0 0 6 13 5 16 16 14 -- 90
FORD 6 8 6 2 14 14 10 0 6 10 7 0 3 -- 86
MITSUBISHI 13 10 10 7 4 3 6 13 0 0 1 0 2 -- 69
SUBARU 0 4 3 1 8 6 6 0 7 11 2 7 7 -- 62
SKODA 5 1 0 0 0 1 4 4 0 -- 0 0 -- -- 15
HYUNDAI 2 3 3 0 0 2 0 -- 0 0 0 3 0 -- 13
So Sainz, Makinen, McRae or Burns can win the championship now for drivers. Either Ford or Peugeot can do the Manufacturers.
The NetworkQ is gonna be awesome with those four absolutely flat out, you'll also have gronholme and rovenpera flat out for the manufacturers title, get your calculators ready!:lol: I'll be there with a rather enthusiatic I-Club member. I cant wait now. :D
| In2Deep | 11-04-2001 01:33 PM |
Oh and let's not forget Burns has won the Great Britain Rally the last 3 years in a row! hehe :)
| In2Deep | 11-04-2001 07:50 PM |
Sorry... wasn't aware of that. I just put that up for convenience sake. :(
| SSJ Char | 11-05-2001 02:41 AM |
OHHH MAN!!!!! SO sweet. I just saw abit of coverage on speedvision, and now i cant wait till WRC 2morrow, or should i say 2day ;) . Man, Looks REALLY good for Dick Burns. I REALLY hope he wins. either him or Tommi. I kinda want Tommi to win cuz well, hes gonna be a suby guy nexy season.
| Kingtut R-S | 11-05-2001 09:39 AM |
When?
At what time does the speedvision coverage of the Rally Australia begins today?
| wrx182 | 11-05-2001 09:48 AM |
Speedvision:
FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
2001 Television Schedule
Mon, Nov 5 9pm Rally of France (Corsica)
Mon, Nov 19 9pm Rally Australia
Mon, Dec 10 9pm Network Q Rally (Britain)
Mon, Dec 17 9pm End of Season Review
FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
2001 Television Schedule
Mon, Nov 5 9pm Rally of France (Corsica)
Mon, Nov 19 9pm Rally Australia
Mon, Dec 10 9pm Network Q Rally (Britain)
Mon, Dec 17 9pm End of Season Review
| Subie Gal | 11-05-2001 09:59 AM |
11 days and couting!!
bring on the RAC baby!!! :D
no...no... i'm not excited!!! ahahahaha
GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! erm...
sorry :D
j.
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
bring on the RAC baby!!! :D
no...no... i'm not excited!!! ahahahaha
GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! GO BURNS! erm...
sorry :D
j.
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| MstrDC | 11-05-2001 10:25 AM |
"...However, Francois Delecour was not so lucky. On Stage 13, he crashed his Ford Focus and his co-driver Daniel Grataloup was seriously injured. Daniel took the full impact, as his side of the car hit a tree, snapping it in half. The stage was still running and Colin McRae and Nicky Grist were the first on the scene. McRae used the 'SOS' sign to warn the next car to stop, Kenneth Eriksson in his Hyundai. The Ford pair and the Hyundai pair helped Daniel out of the car until the medics arrived. It has been confirmed that Daniel has a collapsed lung, broken ribs and a broken shoulder. The Stage was then cancelled. "
Ouch! Nice to hear though that McRae and Eriksson actually helped out. Any one have anything new on Daniel Grataloup? How's he doing?
Ouch! Nice to hear though that McRae and Eriksson actually helped out. Any one have anything new on Daniel Grataloup? How's he doing?
| In2Deep | 11-05-2001 03:32 PM |
Sounds like a scene out of the movie [i]Driven[/i]. It's good to see brotherhood in action!
| Strepto | 11-05-2001 04:33 PM |
from fordracing.net
[quote]Ford Martini co-driver Daniel Grataloup will undergo further assessment by surgeons today at Perth's St John of God Murdoch Hospital following yesterday's accident in which he cracked three ribs, his right collar bone, his right shoulder blade and suffered a collapsed lung.
Grataloup, injured when the Ford Focus RS World Rally Car crewed by himself and driver François Delecour went off the road and hit a tree in the Wellington Dam stage yesterday morning, will be examined by a consultant orthopaedic surgeon and a consultant surgeon. He will undergo X-ray examination this morning and checks to his lung injury this afternoon.
The 41-year-old Frenchman is progressing well this morning although he feels drowsy after pain relief during the night to ease the discomfort from his injuries. It is expected he will remain in hospital for the next couple of days.[/quote]
[quote]Ford Martini co-driver Daniel Grataloup will undergo further assessment by surgeons today at Perth's St John of God Murdoch Hospital following yesterday's accident in which he cracked three ribs, his right collar bone, his right shoulder blade and suffered a collapsed lung.
Grataloup, injured when the Ford Focus RS World Rally Car crewed by himself and driver François Delecour went off the road and hit a tree in the Wellington Dam stage yesterday morning, will be examined by a consultant orthopaedic surgeon and a consultant surgeon. He will undergo X-ray examination this morning and checks to his lung injury this afternoon.
The 41-year-old Frenchman is progressing well this morning although he feels drowsy after pain relief during the night to ease the discomfort from his injuries. It is expected he will remain in hospital for the next couple of days.[/quote]
| johnfelstead | 11-05-2001 06:17 PM |
:lol: @ Jamie :D
A brit is gonna win for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will it be Colin?
Will it be Ricky?
I dunno!! :lol:
I do know i'll be there cheering them both on, what an end to the season!
A brit is gonna win for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will it be Colin?
Will it be Ricky?
I dunno!! :lol:
I do know i'll be there cheering them both on, what an end to the season!
| shrieden | 11-05-2001 07:48 PM |
What are the exact dates of the RAC???
| lark6 | 11-05-2001 08:47 PM |
I missed the RAC by two weeks last year. I hope I get to see it someday. Lucky ducks.
Non sequitur: Is it me or was Tommi Makinen separated at birth from Kelsey Grammer*?
Ed
*Actor/comedian who played psychologist Frasier Crane on NBC TV's "Cheers" and "Frasier" and voices the villainous kid show sidekick Sideshow Bob on FOX TV's "The Simpsons" - not sure if you've seen them, John.
Non sequitur: Is it me or was Tommi Makinen separated at birth from Kelsey Grammer*?
Ed
*Actor/comedian who played psychologist Frasier Crane on NBC TV's "Cheers" and "Frasier" and voices the villainous kid show sidekick Sideshow Bob on FOX TV's "The Simpsons" - not sure if you've seen them, John.
| 10th Warrior | 11-05-2001 11:28 PM |
[QUOTE]Will it be Colin?
Will it be Ricky?
I dunno!![/QUOTE]
oh come on John, you always seem to have the inside scoop on everything. you really expect us to believe that the FIA hasn't already told you how its going to turn out :rolleyes:
my two pence: colin if he can keep it on the road, richard if he can't, tommi if they switch back to the old car :lol:
Will it be Ricky?
I dunno!![/QUOTE]
oh come on John, you always seem to have the inside scoop on everything. you really expect us to believe that the FIA hasn't already told you how its going to turn out :rolleyes:
my two pence: colin if he can keep it on the road, richard if he can't, tommi if they switch back to the old car :lol:
| johnfelstead | 11-06-2001 03:21 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by lark6 [/i]
[B]I missed the RAC by two weeks last year. I hope I get to see it someday. Lucky ducks.
Non sequitur: Is it me or was Tommi Makinen separated at birth from Kelsey Grammer*?
Ed
*Actor/comedian who played psychologist Frasier Crane on NBC TV's "Cheers" and "Frasier" and voices the villainous kid show sidekick Sideshow Bob on FOX TV's "The Simpsons" - not sure if you've seen them, John. [/B][/QUOTE]
Too funny.:D
Cheers and Fraser are two of my favourite comedies.
Not sure what you are saying mr 10th? you think this season is rigged? :lol::monkey:
[B]I missed the RAC by two weeks last year. I hope I get to see it someday. Lucky ducks.
Non sequitur: Is it me or was Tommi Makinen separated at birth from Kelsey Grammer*?
Ed
*Actor/comedian who played psychologist Frasier Crane on NBC TV's "Cheers" and "Frasier" and voices the villainous kid show sidekick Sideshow Bob on FOX TV's "The Simpsons" - not sure if you've seen them, John. [/B][/QUOTE]
Too funny.:D
Cheers and Fraser are two of my favourite comedies.
Not sure what you are saying mr 10th? you think this season is rigged? :lol::monkey:
| 10th Warrior | 11-06-2001 04:48 PM |
oh, its just you always seem to have inside info before anyone else on the board (team changes and such) so i just figured you could use your ESP or FIA informant to tell us who's going to win, since you seem to have all the other info. it was just a joke ;)
| johnfelstead | 11-06-2001 05:17 PM |
:lol:
Tommi and Carlos will only win if Colin and Richard dont finish.
I am gonna upset Jamie now by saying i think Colin will win. Sorry Jamie, dont beet me up OK! :lol:
Richard is very, very fast in Great Britain but Colin is that extra second quicker when the chips are really down.
The only chance i think Richard has is if we have heavy fog. In those conditions Richard is unbelievable, faster by a big margin over anyone else. I hear he eats plenty of carrotts. :D:lol:
I would love to see Richard win and would be chuffed to bits for him but my deap down support is for Colin. I have followed him since he started out in a Vauxhall Nova. Watched him win his first national then international rally and i was stood about 30 feet away from him when he won the RAC in 95 and collected his World championship in Chester at the racecourse. The atmosphere was incredible. I have seen Colin go through some crap times too. I was the guy who forced his door open after his monumental crash on the RAC in 99.
Colin is the guy who put british rallying on the map again, i have watched him do amazing things since he was a kid. The most amazing thing i have ever seen on a special stage was colin in 1995 when he had something like 2 minutes to make up on Carlos. I was stood right on the top of sweet lamb. I know that stage very well as thats where we go testing a lot. I cant describe what i saw but the car was absolutely on the limit and mm perfect the whole section i could see. It was just mindblowing.
In a straight fight, no fog, no sheet ice Colin will take it. *runs and hides from Jamie*:eek:
Tommi and Carlos will only win if Colin and Richard dont finish.
I am gonna upset Jamie now by saying i think Colin will win. Sorry Jamie, dont beet me up OK! :lol:
Richard is very, very fast in Great Britain but Colin is that extra second quicker when the chips are really down.
The only chance i think Richard has is if we have heavy fog. In those conditions Richard is unbelievable, faster by a big margin over anyone else. I hear he eats plenty of carrotts. :D:lol:
I would love to see Richard win and would be chuffed to bits for him but my deap down support is for Colin. I have followed him since he started out in a Vauxhall Nova. Watched him win his first national then international rally and i was stood about 30 feet away from him when he won the RAC in 95 and collected his World championship in Chester at the racecourse. The atmosphere was incredible. I have seen Colin go through some crap times too. I was the guy who forced his door open after his monumental crash on the RAC in 99.
Colin is the guy who put british rallying on the map again, i have watched him do amazing things since he was a kid. The most amazing thing i have ever seen on a special stage was colin in 1995 when he had something like 2 minutes to make up on Carlos. I was stood right on the top of sweet lamb. I know that stage very well as thats where we go testing a lot. I cant describe what i saw but the car was absolutely on the limit and mm perfect the whole section i could see. It was just mindblowing.
In a straight fight, no fog, no sheet ice Colin will take it. *runs and hides from Jamie*:eek:
| Shik | 11-07-2001 05:11 AM |
Jeez John, after that, I think you even have me rooting for McRae :)
In all seriousness, as bad as I want Burns to win(simply because of Subaru), I don't think anyone would absolutely hate it if Colin won. I mean, I would, but only because Richard didn't win. I remember driving 2.5 hours to buy the Autosport issue(closest place that had it) of the 95 RAC( the one with Derick and Colin on the cover). Still have it on my wall today.
Now then, given your great descriptions of both drivers, lets turn to the cars. I'm sure the drivers have alot to do with it, but in the last, say, 5 or 6 years, the Impreza has won the most there by far. How does the Focus match up to the Impreza this year at the RAC, or are the cars so evenly matched that it really all comes down to Burns vs. McRae?
In all seriousness, as bad as I want Burns to win(simply because of Subaru), I don't think anyone would absolutely hate it if Colin won. I mean, I would, but only because Richard didn't win. I remember driving 2.5 hours to buy the Autosport issue(closest place that had it) of the 95 RAC( the one with Derick and Colin on the cover). Still have it on my wall today.
Now then, given your great descriptions of both drivers, lets turn to the cars. I'm sure the drivers have alot to do with it, but in the last, say, 5 or 6 years, the Impreza has won the most there by far. How does the Focus match up to the Impreza this year at the RAC, or are the cars so evenly matched that it really all comes down to Burns vs. McRae?
| johnfelstead | 11-07-2001 02:43 PM |
The cars are too close to say either is better on gravel IMHO. I think the Impreza is a little more agile with its shorter wheelbase but its spliting hairs.
They are both running Pirrelli's which are the best tyres by far on gravell.
This one is down to driver (and reliability), gonna be great! :D
They are both running Pirrelli's which are the best tyres by far on gravell.
This one is down to driver (and reliability), gonna be great! :D
| Tony | 11-12-2001 02:39 PM |
[quote]I hear he eats plenty of carrotts.[/quote]
:lol: John, I don't think too many Americans are going to get that reference.
Tony
:lol: John, I don't think too many Americans are going to get that reference.
Tony
| johnfelstead | 11-12-2001 04:26 PM |
:lol: maybe thats a good thing, Jamie would kick my ass. :D:lol:
| jaybird | 11-19-2001 01:50 PM |
Don't forget on tonight @ 9:00pm EST on Speedvision!!!
| lark6 | 11-19-2001 03:19 PM |
With Schwarz to Hyundai, who takes over @ Skoda?
john/all:
I just read on rally-live.com and rallyrallyrally.com that Armin Schwarz has left Skoda and signed on with Hyundai. It appreas Schwarz and Freddy Loix will run the full campaign with Hyundai while former SWRT member and living legend Juha Kankkunen will contest only the gravel events.
Too bad for poor Skoda (everybody say it together: "Skoda") which looked like it was starting to get its act together. Any speculation on who will join Bruno Thiry and Roman Kresta, or will it be just the two of them?
Ed
edit: I see my question has been answered: it'll be Kenneth Eriksson and Toni Gardemeister. Not sure whether Thiry or Kresta will be part of the team.
I just read on rally-live.com and rallyrallyrally.com that Armin Schwarz has left Skoda and signed on with Hyundai. It appreas Schwarz and Freddy Loix will run the full campaign with Hyundai while former SWRT member and living legend Juha Kankkunen will contest only the gravel events.
Too bad for poor Skoda (everybody say it together: "Skoda") which looked like it was starting to get its act together. Any speculation on who will join Bruno Thiry and Roman Kresta, or will it be just the two of them?
Ed
edit: I see my question has been answered: it'll be Kenneth Eriksson and Toni Gardemeister. Not sure whether Thiry or Kresta will be part of the team.
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