| Ice racer | 01-04-2005 03:18 PM |
2005 Studs on Ice time trial / track day on ice FEB 12th 2005
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[SIZE=4][COLOR=Blue][b]The Adirondack Motor Enthusiast Club[/b] [/COLOR][/SIZE]
[b]presents:[/b]
[COLOR=Red][SIZE=4][b]2005 Studs on Ice Time Trial event[/b][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[b]Test your driving skills on studded or unstudded winter tires in a combination Open Track Lapping and time trial event on Ice[/b]
[b][COLOR=red]Winter tires only[/b][/COLOR], no all season or summer tires allowed.
[b] Date:[/b] [COLOR=blue][b]Saturday, February 12th, 2005[/b][/COLOR]
[b]Location:[/b] [COLOR=Black][SIZE=3][b]Round Lake[/b][/SIZE][/COLOR] , in the village of Round Lake, NY
[b] Price:[/b] [COLOR=blue][b]$35.00 per driver[/b][/COLOR]
[b]Registration:[/b] from 8:00 am to 10:30 am at the Grapevine Deli [directions below]
[b]First run group off at 11:00 am[/b]
[b]There will be one timed solo run[/b] for each driver at about 3:30 pm. Trophies will be given out to the top three drivers in each class.
[COLOR=Orange][b]All new format this year.[/b][/COLOR]
[b]Here are the key changes:[/b]
[b]1.[/b] Instead of the traditional solo format, with it's waiting around all day to make your run, we are switching to a new "track day" format with four "Run groups" that will run in 10 minute open track lapping sessions, with approx. 10 cars in each group. This will give you more track time than the last three events we have held [b]combined[/b]. [b][COLOR=blue]There will be a single timed solo run at the end of the event, and trophies awarded to the top three in each class.[/COLOR][/b]
[b]2.[/b] There will be passing allowed in three of the four run groups, but only on the straight[s]. This will be monitored very closely. Point by's are optional and encouraged. Don't worry we plan on plowing the the track wide enough to slide a tractor tralier around again this year, with plenty of room to pass. Passing will only be done in a well educated, non-competitive, and controlled fashion. The car being overtaken must help facilitate a safe pass, and will not "race" the passing car to the braking zone. There will be a set of cones at the end of the straightaway[s] denoting where you must have your pass completed.
[b]3.[/b] We will have one run group that will accomodate all of the driver's who don't want any passing in their run group.
[b]4.[/b] In the unlikely event that any participant's vehicle touches another particpant's vehicle, one or both of them [determined by the course marshals] will be excluded from the remainder of the event without a refund. This should not be an issue, but has to be mentioned. You are not racing the other cars in your run group.
[b]Class pairings for run groups:[/b]
[b]Seven Classes include:[/b]
All 2WD Rubber-to-Ice [2WD-R]
All 4WD Rubber-to-Ice [4WD-R]
All 2WD w/street studs [2WD-S]
All 4WD w/street studs [4WD-S]
All cars with Menards [M] class
All 2WD bolts "X-perimental" [2WD-X]
All 4WD w/bolts [4WD-X]
As stated above, there will be one timed run for each driver at the end of the program to determine the winners in each class. This will be like the final stage of the Swedish Rally. You've got just one chance to be the quickest. :D You will have had all day for "recce" and practice.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0896.jpg[/img]
Existing classes will be paired in this way:
[b]Run group #1:[/b] Menard, 2WD-X, and 4WD-X, cars run together.
[b]Run group #2:[/b] 2WD-S and 4WD-S cars run together.
[b]Run group# 3:[/b] 2WD-R and 4WD-R cars run together.
[b]Run group #4:[/b] No passing group [Rubber or Studded cars only - no Menard or X cars]
[b]Notes:[/b]
***** Dual driver cars will be able to run in different run groups of similar performance. In other words, a "Group #3" car's with second driver would run with either the "Group #2" cars or in "Group #4" [the "No Passing"] group. Each driver will choose their run group when pre-registering, so we can organize the sizes of each group.
***** Like last year, there will be a maximum of two drivers per car.
***** Final results will be tallied much more quickly, and trophies will be awarded for all classes.
***** There is an additional benefit of this new format for all eligible Street Legal cars [under 3,200 lbs.]that are invited to stay over and race with us the next day in our regular wheel to wheel "Street Legal" classes. They will have practiced the course extensively, and will have the advantage of knowing it like the back of their hand for Sunday's races. Keep in mind the SL and SLU [unstudded] classes have a strict "no contact" in effect.
The date of this year's event is scheduled [weather permitting as usual] for Saturday February 12th, 2005. The location will be much more convenient for the majority of you than last year's event. It is planned to be held on Round Lake, located in Round Lake, NY, about 25 minutes north of Albany.
Morning registration will be at the Grapevine Deli /gas station, just off of Northway [I-87] Exit 11.
[b]Directions from the South:[/b]
Take exit 24 of the New York State Thruway, for I-87 North [a.k.a the "Northway"]. Get off of the Northway at Exit 11 for Round Lake. Bear left at the end of the ramp onto Round Lake Rd., go under the Northway, and on your right will be the Grapvine Deli / gas station. There is a truck stop next door, so there is plenty of parking for everyone. After registering, go left [back the way you came on Round Lake Rd], under the Northway again, and proceed into the village of Round Lake. Don't make any turns, just wind your way through the village and proceed until you come out to a "Y" at a traffic light, which is route 9. Bear right onto route 9 South and you'll see the lake on your left. Just a few hundred yards up, look for the second opening in the guardrail on your left. In the middle of the big opening is the lake access to the event. Be very careful when crossing oncoming traffic on route 9 and turn left into the access. Follow the plowed path to the pit area.
[b]Directions from the North:[/b] Northway south to exit 11, then bear right onto Round Lake Rd. The Grapevine Deli is on your right. Follow same instructions "From the south" from the "After registering" heading, to get to the lake.
Motels Round Lake: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=motel&near=Round+Lake,+NY+12151&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
You may also want to stay in Clifton Park [Exit 9], which is about 10-15 minutes south of Round lake.
Motels Clifton Park: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&sa=G&q=motel&near=Clifton+Park,+NY&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
Tim Stevens was very helpful in getting these price quotes for Clifton Park area:
Best Western Clifton Park - 617 Plank Rd. (518) 371-1811 $75 a night includes continental breakfast.
Comfort Inn - 41 Fire Rd (518) 373-0222 $99 a night for 2 double bed room.
Comfort Suites - 7 Northside Dr. (518) 373-2255 $129 for suite with 2 queen beds or 1 king bed.
Hampton Inn Clifton Park - 620 Plank Rd. (518) 373-2345 $107 for King or 2 double bed room.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Studs-1.jpg[/img]
[b]To register:[/b]
Send me an email reply [or call me at 518 674-0520] with the following information: Driver's name, Driver's age, Full mailing address, Car owner's name, Car make model and year, Brand and Model tires to be used, Car color, preferred car number[s], and emergency contact phone number[s]. This event is open to the first 60 drivers. It is suggested to register promptly.
Best regards,
Michael Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator
[b]presents:[/b]
[COLOR=Red][SIZE=4][b]2005 Studs on Ice Time Trial event[/b][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[b]Test your driving skills on studded or unstudded winter tires in a combination Open Track Lapping and time trial event on Ice[/b]
[b][COLOR=red]Winter tires only[/b][/COLOR], no all season or summer tires allowed.
[b] Date:[/b] [COLOR=blue][b]Saturday, February 12th, 2005[/b][/COLOR]
[b]Location:[/b] [COLOR=Black][SIZE=3][b]Round Lake[/b][/SIZE][/COLOR] , in the village of Round Lake, NY
[b] Price:[/b] [COLOR=blue][b]$35.00 per driver[/b][/COLOR]
[b]Registration:[/b] from 8:00 am to 10:30 am at the Grapevine Deli [directions below]
[b]First run group off at 11:00 am[/b]
[b]There will be one timed solo run[/b] for each driver at about 3:30 pm. Trophies will be given out to the top three drivers in each class.
[COLOR=Orange][b]All new format this year.[/b][/COLOR]
[b]Here are the key changes:[/b]
[b]1.[/b] Instead of the traditional solo format, with it's waiting around all day to make your run, we are switching to a new "track day" format with four "Run groups" that will run in 10 minute open track lapping sessions, with approx. 10 cars in each group. This will give you more track time than the last three events we have held [b]combined[/b]. [b][COLOR=blue]There will be a single timed solo run at the end of the event, and trophies awarded to the top three in each class.[/COLOR][/b]
[b]2.[/b] There will be passing allowed in three of the four run groups, but only on the straight[s]. This will be monitored very closely. Point by's are optional and encouraged. Don't worry we plan on plowing the the track wide enough to slide a tractor tralier around again this year, with plenty of room to pass. Passing will only be done in a well educated, non-competitive, and controlled fashion. The car being overtaken must help facilitate a safe pass, and will not "race" the passing car to the braking zone. There will be a set of cones at the end of the straightaway[s] denoting where you must have your pass completed.
[b]3.[/b] We will have one run group that will accomodate all of the driver's who don't want any passing in their run group.
[b]4.[/b] In the unlikely event that any participant's vehicle touches another particpant's vehicle, one or both of them [determined by the course marshals] will be excluded from the remainder of the event without a refund. This should not be an issue, but has to be mentioned. You are not racing the other cars in your run group.
[b]Class pairings for run groups:[/b]
[b]Seven Classes include:[/b]
All 2WD Rubber-to-Ice [2WD-R]
All 4WD Rubber-to-Ice [4WD-R]
All 2WD w/street studs [2WD-S]
All 4WD w/street studs [4WD-S]
All cars with Menards [M] class
All 2WD bolts "X-perimental" [2WD-X]
All 4WD w/bolts [4WD-X]
As stated above, there will be one timed run for each driver at the end of the program to determine the winners in each class. This will be like the final stage of the Swedish Rally. You've got just one chance to be the quickest. :D You will have had all day for "recce" and practice.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0896.jpg[/img]
Existing classes will be paired in this way:
[b]Run group #1:[/b] Menard, 2WD-X, and 4WD-X, cars run together.
[b]Run group #2:[/b] 2WD-S and 4WD-S cars run together.
[b]Run group# 3:[/b] 2WD-R and 4WD-R cars run together.
[b]Run group #4:[/b] No passing group [Rubber or Studded cars only - no Menard or X cars]
[b]Notes:[/b]
***** Dual driver cars will be able to run in different run groups of similar performance. In other words, a "Group #3" car's with second driver would run with either the "Group #2" cars or in "Group #4" [the "No Passing"] group. Each driver will choose their run group when pre-registering, so we can organize the sizes of each group.
***** Like last year, there will be a maximum of two drivers per car.
***** Final results will be tallied much more quickly, and trophies will be awarded for all classes.
***** There is an additional benefit of this new format for all eligible Street Legal cars [under 3,200 lbs.]that are invited to stay over and race with us the next day in our regular wheel to wheel "Street Legal" classes. They will have practiced the course extensively, and will have the advantage of knowing it like the back of their hand for Sunday's races. Keep in mind the SL and SLU [unstudded] classes have a strict "no contact" in effect.
The date of this year's event is scheduled [weather permitting as usual] for Saturday February 12th, 2005. The location will be much more convenient for the majority of you than last year's event. It is planned to be held on Round Lake, located in Round Lake, NY, about 25 minutes north of Albany.
Morning registration will be at the Grapevine Deli /gas station, just off of Northway [I-87] Exit 11.
[b]Directions from the South:[/b]
Take exit 24 of the New York State Thruway, for I-87 North [a.k.a the "Northway"]. Get off of the Northway at Exit 11 for Round Lake. Bear left at the end of the ramp onto Round Lake Rd., go under the Northway, and on your right will be the Grapvine Deli / gas station. There is a truck stop next door, so there is plenty of parking for everyone. After registering, go left [back the way you came on Round Lake Rd], under the Northway again, and proceed into the village of Round Lake. Don't make any turns, just wind your way through the village and proceed until you come out to a "Y" at a traffic light, which is route 9. Bear right onto route 9 South and you'll see the lake on your left. Just a few hundred yards up, look for the second opening in the guardrail on your left. In the middle of the big opening is the lake access to the event. Be very careful when crossing oncoming traffic on route 9 and turn left into the access. Follow the plowed path to the pit area.
[b]Directions from the North:[/b] Northway south to exit 11, then bear right onto Round Lake Rd. The Grapevine Deli is on your right. Follow same instructions "From the south" from the "After registering" heading, to get to the lake.
Motels Round Lake: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=motel&near=Round+Lake,+NY+12151&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
You may also want to stay in Clifton Park [Exit 9], which is about 10-15 minutes south of Round lake.
Motels Clifton Park: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&sa=G&q=motel&near=Clifton+Park,+NY&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
Tim Stevens was very helpful in getting these price quotes for Clifton Park area:
Best Western Clifton Park - 617 Plank Rd. (518) 371-1811 $75 a night includes continental breakfast.
Comfort Inn - 41 Fire Rd (518) 373-0222 $99 a night for 2 double bed room.
Comfort Suites - 7 Northside Dr. (518) 373-2255 $129 for suite with 2 queen beds or 1 king bed.
Hampton Inn Clifton Park - 620 Plank Rd. (518) 373-2345 $107 for King or 2 double bed room.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Studs-1.jpg[/img]
[b]To register:[/b]
Send me an email reply [or call me at 518 674-0520] with the following information: Driver's name, Driver's age, Full mailing address, Car owner's name, Car make model and year, Brand and Model tires to be used, Car color, preferred car number[s], and emergency contact phone number[s]. This event is open to the first 60 drivers. It is suggested to register promptly.
Best regards,
Michael Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator
| KC | 01-04-2005 03:43 PM |
Might want to include the Date in the top of the post. ;) It's kinda buried (thought it was about classing and skipped it since I thought it didn't apply.)
| Draken | 01-04-2005 03:56 PM |
that and a price. A few of us from VT are interested.
Chris H.
Chris H.
| Ice racer | 01-04-2005 04:08 PM |
[QUOTE=Draken]that and a price. A few of us from VT are interested.
Chris H.[/QUOTE] Thanks guys. :)
It's hard to remember everything in such an all inclusive post. :D
Chris H.[/QUOTE] Thanks guys. :)
It's hard to remember everything in such an all inclusive post. :D
| Snowphun | 01-04-2005 11:32 PM |
Very interesting...
Multiple cars on course sounds like it could get pretty hairy though. The last Studs on Ice event I did had a 1.5 mile course, how many passing zomes do you think you'll have? I'd be concerned about a group getting bunched up and having an incident if one of them loses control. People without wheel to wheel seat time may be easily spooked.
But I am very tempted.
Paul
Multiple cars on course sounds like it could get pretty hairy though. The last Studs on Ice event I did had a 1.5 mile course, how many passing zomes do you think you'll have? I'd be concerned about a group getting bunched up and having an incident if one of them loses control. People without wheel to wheel seat time may be easily spooked.
But I am very tempted.
Paul
| Killian Maynard | 01-05-2005 02:17 AM |
I'm soooooo jealous. Its 55 degrees out here in Cali :(
| TimStevens | 01-05-2005 07:49 AM |
Can't wait!
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| akuhner | 01-05-2005 09:30 AM |
What time would all of this start?
| Ice racer | 01-05-2005 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=Snowphun]Very interesting...
Multiple cars on course sounds like it could get pretty hairy though. The last Studs on Ice event I did had a 1.6 mile course, how many passing zones do you think you'll have?[/QUOTE] Paul,
Peolple underestimate our officiating at these events. We do not require that particpants work at our events. You are not at the mercy of inexperienced workers, from having participants pressed into a position they know nothing about, like working a corner flagging station.
[QUOTE=Snowphun]People without wheel to wheel seat time may be easily spooked.[/QUOTE] We have a run group with "No Passing" for them. Remember: [i]you are not racing the other cars in your group.[/i]
It should also be mentioned that if someone has never raced on ice before, doesn't have proper winter tires, and feels that they aren't ready for an event like this, that is understandable. A.M.E.C. expects less cars this year, but with more experienced drivers. Our goal is not to attract drivers with worn out "all-season" tires that spend the day repeatedly spun out in a snowbank. :rolleyes: There are other lower speed solo venues for them.
[QUOTE=Snowphun] I'd be concerned about a group getting bunched up and having an incident if one of them loses control.[/QUOTE] As usual, cars will be set out with equal large distances between them on a huge track. [b]If[/b] there is a group bunched up [which there shouldn't be if you paid attention at the driver's meeting] the car[s] holding up the pack will be black flagged, and asked to pull off on a specially prepared "pull off" lane at Start/Finish. They will be held there a few moments until the others have passed and then be sent back out. We plan on having two passing zones, clearly marked with pylons.
Multiple cars on course sounds like it could get pretty hairy though. The last Studs on Ice event I did had a 1.6 mile course, how many passing zones do you think you'll have?[/QUOTE] Paul,
Peolple underestimate our officiating at these events. We do not require that particpants work at our events. You are not at the mercy of inexperienced workers, from having participants pressed into a position they know nothing about, like working a corner flagging station.
[QUOTE=Snowphun]People without wheel to wheel seat time may be easily spooked.[/QUOTE] We have a run group with "No Passing" for them. Remember: [i]you are not racing the other cars in your group.[/i]
It should also be mentioned that if someone has never raced on ice before, doesn't have proper winter tires, and feels that they aren't ready for an event like this, that is understandable. A.M.E.C. expects less cars this year, but with more experienced drivers. Our goal is not to attract drivers with worn out "all-season" tires that spend the day repeatedly spun out in a snowbank. :rolleyes: There are other lower speed solo venues for them.
[QUOTE=Snowphun] I'd be concerned about a group getting bunched up and having an incident if one of them loses control.[/QUOTE] As usual, cars will be set out with equal large distances between them on a huge track. [b]If[/b] there is a group bunched up [which there shouldn't be if you paid attention at the driver's meeting] the car[s] holding up the pack will be black flagged, and asked to pull off on a specially prepared "pull off" lane at Start/Finish. They will be held there a few moments until the others have passed and then be sent back out. We plan on having two passing zones, clearly marked with pylons.
| Ice racer | 01-05-2005 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=Car #187]What time would all of this start?[/QUOTE] I've updated the original post with that info.
Thanks Alex. :)
Thanks Alex. :)
| akuhner | 01-05-2005 01:32 PM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]
As usual, cars will be set out with equal large distances between them on a huge track. [b]If[/b] there is a group bunched up [which there shouldn't be if you paid attention at the driver's meeting] the car[s] holding up the pack will be black flagged, and asked to pull off on a specially prepared "pull off" lane at Start/Finish. They will be held there a few moments until the others have passed and then be sent back out. We plan on having two passing zones, clearly marked with pylons.[/QUOTE]
OH! That makes sense. I don't know what kind of a "start" I was picturing, but I thought we'd start off together. This makes a lot more sense to me now.
Alex
As usual, cars will be set out with equal large distances between them on a huge track. [b]If[/b] there is a group bunched up [which there shouldn't be if you paid attention at the driver's meeting] the car[s] holding up the pack will be black flagged, and asked to pull off on a specially prepared "pull off" lane at Start/Finish. They will be held there a few moments until the others have passed and then be sent back out. We plan on having two passing zones, clearly marked with pylons.[/QUOTE]
OH! That makes sense. I don't know what kind of a "start" I was picturing, but I thought we'd start off together. This makes a lot more sense to me now.
Alex
| Snowphun | 01-05-2005 01:46 PM |
Mike, thanks for the answers, they clear up most of my concerns. Less people, more seat time = more fun. :)
You don't think you can get enough people to restrict it to snow tires or better (as in no all season or summer)?
You don't think you can get enough people to restrict it to snow tires or better (as in no all season or summer)?
| Ice racer | 01-05-2005 05:09 PM |
[QUOTE=Snowphun]Mike, thanks for the answers, they clear up most of my concerns. Less people, more seat time = more fun. :)
You don't think you can get enough people to restrict it to snow tires or better (as in no all season or summer)?[/QUOTE] Forgive me for not making it clear initially, I will edit my event flyer to reflect that we will [b]definately[/b] be requiring winter tires to run in this event. No offence to anyone, but trying to run an event like this on summer or all season tires is a handicap you shouldn't place on yourself, or the others in your run group. It just makes no sense to try to drive quickly on ice without winter tires. That's why I have a line on the [b][URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm]registration form[/URL][/b] to fill in this year, asking what brand and model of winter tires you will be using. I have two extra sets of studded Nokian Hakkapelliitta's set aside for loaning out a participants already. There's plenty of time to pick up a set winter of tires on ebay or at the Tire Rack. :)
You don't think you can get enough people to restrict it to snow tires or better (as in no all season or summer)?[/QUOTE] Forgive me for not making it clear initially, I will edit my event flyer to reflect that we will [b]definately[/b] be requiring winter tires to run in this event. No offence to anyone, but trying to run an event like this on summer or all season tires is a handicap you shouldn't place on yourself, or the others in your run group. It just makes no sense to try to drive quickly on ice without winter tires. That's why I have a line on the [b][URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm]registration form[/URL][/b] to fill in this year, asking what brand and model of winter tires you will be using. I have two extra sets of studded Nokian Hakkapelliitta's set aside for loaning out a participants already. There's plenty of time to pick up a set winter of tires on ebay or at the Tire Rack. :)
| Ice racer | 01-10-2005 10:46 PM |
X-Perimental class taking center stage this year!
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Registration is filling up nicely for this year's all new "Studs on Ice" event.
Headlining this exciting event are more X-Perimental class [bolts or screws in tires] cars than ever before this year!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0243.jpg[/img]
Last year's overall champ, Constantine Mantopoulas will return with his '89 Audi 90 Quattro, 20 valve turbo, Pro Rally car.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0915.jpg[/img]
Runner up, Dave Burnham will return again this year in his #48 open wheel FWD unlimted modified, complete with a full areodynamic package and an all-aluminum twin cam Maserati V-6 engine for power.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0040.bmp[/img]
....Also, Andrew Bayley and Jeremy Butts will bring screamin' X- class cars too. Andrew's got a full house WRX and Jeremy a big honkin' V8 powered RWD 5.0 Liter Mustang GT. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/img]
[b]Brendan Norton[/b] will also be running in 2WD-X with his Nissan 200SX SE-R, with a home built set of screwed tires.
Lots of Quattros and Subarus too! ;)
[img]http://taz.cs.wcupa.edu/~akozik/Suby/icerace/IMG_1620.jpg[/img]
Haven't heard from Pennsylvania's Alex Kozik yet, but he ran a home built set of screw tires last year too. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/img]
Headlining this exciting event are more X-Perimental class [bolts or screws in tires] cars than ever before this year!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0243.jpg[/img]
Last year's overall champ, Constantine Mantopoulas will return with his '89 Audi 90 Quattro, 20 valve turbo, Pro Rally car.
[img]http://www.icerace.com/Cnv0915.jpg[/img]
Runner up, Dave Burnham will return again this year in his #48 open wheel FWD unlimted modified, complete with a full areodynamic package and an all-aluminum twin cam Maserati V-6 engine for power.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0040.bmp[/img]
....Also, Andrew Bayley and Jeremy Butts will bring screamin' X- class cars too. Andrew's got a full house WRX and Jeremy a big honkin' V8 powered RWD 5.0 Liter Mustang GT. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/img]
[b]Brendan Norton[/b] will also be running in 2WD-X with his Nissan 200SX SE-R, with a home built set of screwed tires.
Lots of Quattros and Subarus too! ;)
[img]http://taz.cs.wcupa.edu/~akozik/Suby/icerace/IMG_1620.jpg[/img]
Haven't heard from Pennsylvania's Alex Kozik yet, but he ran a home built set of screw tires last year too. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/img]
| Ice racer | 01-10-2005 10:47 PM |
WRX with the "right" tires
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Here are some pics Andrew Bayley sent me of the 2002 WRX he will drive at this year's event in 4WD-X.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/WRX2.jpg[/img]
....with these tires......
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/tires2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/tires1.jpg[/img]
And here is a pic of Jeremy Butts' 5.0 Mustang.....
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Mustang1.jpg[/img]
[b]Looks like Constantine might have some competition this year![/b] [img]http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/WRX2.jpg[/img]
....with these tires......
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/tires2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/tires1.jpg[/img]
And here is a pic of Jeremy Butts' 5.0 Mustang.....
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Mustang1.jpg[/img]
[b]Looks like Constantine might have some competition this year![/b] [img]http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
| Bayley | 01-11-2005 10:22 AM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]Here are some pics Andrew Bayley sent me of the 2002 WRX he will drive at this year's event in 4WD-X.
WRX[/QUOTE]
2004 ;)
I'm crossing my fingers right now that a new tensioner is all I need to get ehr ready. I'd hate to miss yet another event this year... :furious:
WRX[/QUOTE]
2004 ;)
I'm crossing my fingers right now that a new tensioner is all I need to get ehr ready. I'd hate to miss yet another event this year... :furious:
| Sideshowbob | 01-11-2005 11:44 AM |
I will most likely be there. (My parents live in CP)
| Georgethefierce | 01-11-2005 11:51 AM |
godda love body roll on the ice!!!!
| feropont | 01-11-2005 02:23 PM |
I am comming. Anyone looking to share a hotel room on Saturday?
| Ice racer | 01-11-2005 04:22 PM |
[QUOTE=feropont]I am comming. Anyone looking to share a hotel room on Saturday?[/QUOTE] feropont,
Yes,
I have another Jerseyite coming to this event with this WRX,
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0245.jpg[/IMG]
This pic was taken at Summit point I believe.
His name is Sergei, and he too is seeking someone to share a room with. What could be better than another Subie driver? :p I sent Sergei a link to this post, so he might send you a pm.
feropont,
Did you register with me yet? :confused:
Yes,
I have another Jerseyite coming to this event with this WRX,
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0245.jpg[/IMG]
This pic was taken at Summit point I believe.
His name is Sergei, and he too is seeking someone to share a room with. What could be better than another Subie driver? :p I sent Sergei a link to this post, so he might send you a pm.
feropont,
Did you register with me yet? :confused:
| feropont | 01-11-2005 06:12 PM |
that is me :) I am a Sergei.
I also posted at tri-sate forum [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696741[/url]
May get aditional atention.
I also posted at tri-sate forum [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696741[/url]
May get aditional atention.
| Ice racer | 01-11-2005 06:35 PM |
[QUOTE=feropont]that is me :) I am a Sergei.
I also posted at tri-sate forum [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696741[/url]
May get aditional atention.[/QUOTE]
Ah hah,
Small world isn't it? [img] http://www.v8buick.com/images/smilies/kopfpatsch.gif[/img]
:D
I also posted at tri-sate forum [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696741[/url]
May get aditional atention.[/QUOTE]
Ah hah,
Small world isn't it? [img] http://www.v8buick.com/images/smilies/kopfpatsch.gif[/img]
:D
| Osgood30 | 01-12-2005 09:46 AM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer][img]http://taz.cs.wcupa.edu/~akozik/Suby/icerace/IMG_1620.jpg[/img]
Haven't heard from Pennsylvania's Alex Kozik yet, but he ran a home built set of screw tires last year too. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
don't worry I'll be there. ;)
Haven't heard from Pennsylvania's Alex Kozik yet, but he ran a home built set of screw tires last year too. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
don't worry I'll be there. ;)
| Ice racer | 01-12-2005 12:21 PM |
[QUOTE=Osgood30]don't worry I'll be there. ;)[/QUOTE]
Your'e in Alex. Thanks for registering. :)
I will have your form printed off and ready for you to sign at registration in the morning.
We will have a record number of X-perimental cars this year. [IMG]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/IMG]
Your'e in Alex. Thanks for registering. :)
I will have your form printed off and ready for you to sign at registration in the morning.
We will have a record number of X-perimental cars this year. [IMG]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/IMG]
| n k | 01-12-2005 04:54 PM |
Michael, I just called to register and left a message. I look forward to hearing back from you. Thanks
Snowphun, you have a pm. :)
Snowphun, you have a pm. :)
| feropont | 01-12-2005 07:56 PM |
There are few people interested on Tri-State forum to come over. Seems it will be more then few subies
| Ice racer | 01-12-2005 08:26 PM |
[QUOTE=n k]Michael, I just called to register and left a message. I look forward to hearing back from you. Thanks
Snowphun, you have a pm. :)[/QUOTE] It was good to talk to you n k. :)
Thanks for registering with us. I think we've got about 7 WRX's already. [IMG]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=feropont]There are few people interested on Tri-State forum to come over. Seems it will be more then few subies[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up feropont. I'm learning all of the user names now. :D
Snowphun, you have a pm. :)[/QUOTE] It was good to talk to you n k. :)
Thanks for registering with us. I think we've got about 7 WRX's already. [IMG]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley20.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=feropont]There are few people interested on Tri-State forum to come over. Seems it will be more then few subies[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up feropont. I'm learning all of the user names now. :D
| Sideshowbob | 01-13-2005 10:19 AM |
Whats the deal with ice thickness, my Dad (in Clifton Park) said its really warm there right now. Are you gonna update this thread with info about teh Ice?
| Snowphun | 01-13-2005 11:53 AM |
A lot can change in a month regarding the ice and snow cover. This does seem to be a late start, but I think it's a bit too early to panic.
| Ice racer | 01-13-2005 02:11 PM |
[quote=BeantownWRX]Whats the deal with ice thickness, my Dad (in Clifton Park) said its really warm there right now. Are you gonna update this thread with info about teh Ice?[/quote] The best bet is to check our [URL=www.icerace.com]ICERACE.COM[/URL] website for the latest word on whether an event is on. Additionally, anyone on my "Studs on Ice" email list gets updated frequently as the event draws near. If you'd like to be on my "Studs on Ice" email list, send me pm.
We go out and actually drill the lakes ourselves [we don't take anyone's word for anything] to check for the required consistent 12" of ice thickness on the Thursday prior to the event. We usually make the determination whether each week's events are "on" or not sometime on Friday afternoon. Sometimes when it is obvious that there's plenty of ice and there's no big snowstorm in the forecast, we declare a race "on" even earlier in the week. Yes, it's warm today here in the Capital District of NY [and all of the northeast], but we've got a whole month until the event. Besides, temporary warm spells occur every year in January. Tomorrow night the temps will drop like a rock. ;)
Although we [i]schedule[/i] our regular weekly races starting the first weekend of January, we rarely ever get our first race off before the third weekend. So at this point, we're not off to a late start. :)
We go out and actually drill the lakes ourselves [we don't take anyone's word for anything] to check for the required consistent 12" of ice thickness on the Thursday prior to the event. We usually make the determination whether each week's events are "on" or not sometime on Friday afternoon. Sometimes when it is obvious that there's plenty of ice and there's no big snowstorm in the forecast, we declare a race "on" even earlier in the week. Yes, it's warm today here in the Capital District of NY [and all of the northeast], but we've got a whole month until the event. Besides, temporary warm spells occur every year in January. Tomorrow night the temps will drop like a rock. ;)
Although we [i]schedule[/i] our regular weekly races starting the first weekend of January, we rarely ever get our first race off before the third weekend. So at this point, we're not off to a late start. :)
| paultg | 01-13-2005 09:29 PM |
I just e-mailed my registration request. One more subaru to the list! (I hope)
Paul G.
Paul G.
| Ice racer | 01-13-2005 09:55 PM |
[QUOTE=paultg]I just e-mailed my registration request. One more subaru to the list! (I hope)
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Got it Paul, Thanks :)
[COLOR=Purple][b]I think we should to make [COLOR=Blue]Subaru[/COLOR] the Official car of the "Studs on Ice" trials.[/b][/COLOR] :D
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Got it Paul, Thanks :)
[COLOR=Purple][b]I think we should to make [COLOR=Blue]Subaru[/COLOR] the Official car of the "Studs on Ice" trials.[/b][/COLOR] :D
| paultg | 01-14-2005 10:30 AM |
:)
So, I'm trying to decide what group to run in. I've placed in the top 3 for the season at the BMW events I attend (I think twice now), so I'm sort of experienced. I know this is much faster event though, which is why I want to try it out. Every year at the BMW events the course will get fast, I slow down, the Jacksons and everyone else get faster. :)
But, I do have a car loan on this car. Any suggestions Mike?
Any idea on how many cars will be in the "no passing" group #4 and how many will be in Run Group #3?
If I try Group # 3 and decide to put my skirt back on, can I move to Group # 4 during the event?
Paul G.
So, I'm trying to decide what group to run in. I've placed in the top 3 for the season at the BMW events I attend (I think twice now), so I'm sort of experienced. I know this is much faster event though, which is why I want to try it out. Every year at the BMW events the course will get fast, I slow down, the Jacksons and everyone else get faster. :)
But, I do have a car loan on this car. Any suggestions Mike?
Any idea on how many cars will be in the "no passing" group #4 and how many will be in Run Group #3?
If I try Group # 3 and decide to put my skirt back on, can I move to Group # 4 during the event?
Paul G.
| Ice racer | 01-14-2005 04:39 PM |
[QUOTE=paultg]
So, I'm trying to decide what group to run in. Any idea on how many cars will be in the "no passing" group #4 and how many will be in Run Group #3?[/QUOTE] It's far too soon to tell, but right now there are over 40 cars signed up and there is only [b]one[/b] car in the "no passing" run group 4.
[QUOTE=paultg]If I try Group # 3 and decide to put my skirt back on, can I move to Group # 4 during the event?[/QUOTE] Yes, you can switch if you'd like. But we think that if someone would like to switch groups, the switching will be going the other way. In other words, as they get more confidence, they will want to get [i]out[/i] of the no passing group.
So, I'm trying to decide what group to run in. Any idea on how many cars will be in the "no passing" group #4 and how many will be in Run Group #3?[/QUOTE] It's far too soon to tell, but right now there are over 40 cars signed up and there is only [b]one[/b] car in the "no passing" run group 4.
[QUOTE=paultg]If I try Group # 3 and decide to put my skirt back on, can I move to Group # 4 during the event?[/QUOTE] Yes, you can switch if you'd like. But we think that if someone would like to switch groups, the switching will be going the other way. In other words, as they get more confidence, they will want to get [i]out[/i] of the no passing group.
| paultg | 01-14-2005 05:07 PM |
cool.
Maybe I'll start in Group #4 like you suggested and move out if I feel comfortable.
Was I supposed to tell you what class/group I wanted with my registration e-mail?
Paul G.
Maybe I'll start in Group #4 like you suggested and move out if I feel comfortable.
Was I supposed to tell you what class/group I wanted with my registration e-mail?
Paul G.
| Ice racer | 01-17-2005 08:20 PM |
[QUOTE=paultg]cool.
Maybe I'll start in Group #4 like you suggested and move out if I feel comfortable.
Was I supposed to tell you what class/group I wanted with my registration e-mail?
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Most haven't bothered to include that with their emailed registration. I will send them all a note and ask them about a week before the event so I can prepare the run groups.
Maybe I'll start in Group #4 like you suggested and move out if I feel comfortable.
Was I supposed to tell you what class/group I wanted with my registration e-mail?
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Most haven't bothered to include that with their emailed registration. I will send them all a note and ask them about a week before the event so I can prepare the run groups.
| Ice racer | 01-17-2005 08:28 PM |
We are up to about 12 WRX's now. :)
Anyone recognize this guy?
[IMG]http://members.cox.net/dprakken/lagemann_big.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.specialstage.com/stories/images/stpr02_ramana.jpg[/IMG]
Ramana and former co driver Bill [dentsport] are both registered with a 2003 STi. :D
And today we've finally got our first Evo registered. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]
Anyone recognize this guy?
[IMG]http://members.cox.net/dprakken/lagemann_big.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.specialstage.com/stories/images/stpr02_ramana.jpg[/IMG]
Ramana and former co driver Bill [dentsport] are both registered with a 2003 STi. :D
And today we've finally got our first Evo registered. [img]http://forum.yearone.com/smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]
| akuhner | 01-17-2005 08:40 PM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]
Ramana and former co driver Bill [dentsport] are both registered with a 2003 STi. :D
[/QUOTE]
Can I request not to be in the run group with a guy known as DENTsport? ;) :lol:
Ramana and former co driver Bill [dentsport] are both registered with a 2003 STi. :D
[/QUOTE]
Can I request not to be in the run group with a guy known as DENTsport? ;) :lol:
| feropont | 01-17-2005 08:59 PM |
[QUOTE=Car #187]Can I request not to be in the run group with a guy known as DENTsport? ;) :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :banana: :p :D
Group 3 please sign me up. feropont aka Sergei aka borjigin (Master of the blue wolf (nick name of Ghengis Chan ) :devil: j/k
:lol: :lol: :lol: :banana: :p :D
Group 3 please sign me up. feropont aka Sergei aka borjigin (Master of the blue wolf (nick name of Ghengis Chan ) :devil: j/k
| n k | 01-19-2005 12:49 AM |
It's ironic a couple posts up we were worried about the ice conditions. It's COLD now.
Here is some meet info-
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=701271[/url]
Here is some meet info-
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=701271[/url]
| paultg | 01-19-2005 09:09 PM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]
Motels Round Lake: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=motel&near=Round+Lake,+NY+12151&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
You may also want to stay in Clifton Park [Exit 9], which is about 10-15 minutes south of Round lake.
Motels Clifton Park: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&sa=G&q=motel&near=Clifton+Park,+NY&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
Tim Stevens was very helpful in getting these price quotes for Clifton Park area:
[b]Best Western Clifton Park - 617 Plank Rd. (518) 371-1811 $75 a night includes continental breakfast.[/b]
Comfort Inn - 41 Fire Rd (518) 373-0222 $99 a night for 2 double bed room.
Comfort Suites - 7 Northside Dr. (518) 373-2255 $129 for suite with 2 queen beds or 1 king bed.
Hampton Inn Clifton Park - 620 Plank Rd. (518) 373-2345 $107 for King or 2 double bed room.
Best regards,
Michael Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator[/QUOTE]
Is there a club discount or somone specific I shold talk to when calling for a hotel reservation? I just called the Best Western in Clifton Park and the cheapest rate was $85? I'm not really worried about $10 difference, but wanted to make sure I had all the required info.
I'm planning to drive up from NH on Saturday morning and stay overnight after the event.
Paul G.
Motels Round Lake: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=motel&near=Round+Lake,+NY+12151&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
You may also want to stay in Clifton Park [Exit 9], which is about 10-15 minutes south of Round lake.
Motels Clifton Park: [b][url=http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&sa=G&q=motel&near=Clifton+Park,+NY&oi=localr]HERE[/url][/b]
Tim Stevens was very helpful in getting these price quotes for Clifton Park area:
[b]Best Western Clifton Park - 617 Plank Rd. (518) 371-1811 $75 a night includes continental breakfast.[/b]
Comfort Inn - 41 Fire Rd (518) 373-0222 $99 a night for 2 double bed room.
Comfort Suites - 7 Northside Dr. (518) 373-2255 $129 for suite with 2 queen beds or 1 king bed.
Hampton Inn Clifton Park - 620 Plank Rd. (518) 373-2345 $107 for King or 2 double bed room.
Best regards,
Michael Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator[/QUOTE]
Is there a club discount or somone specific I shold talk to when calling for a hotel reservation? I just called the Best Western in Clifton Park and the cheapest rate was $85? I'm not really worried about $10 difference, but wanted to make sure I had all the required info.
I'm planning to drive up from NH on Saturday morning and stay overnight after the event.
Paul G.
| TimStevens | 01-19-2005 09:18 PM |
Hey Paul, rates were from each hotel's website. I just checked out [url]www.bestwestern.com[/url] and there's a rate there for $75 for a single queen non-smoking room. You can get it via [url]www.expedia.com[/url] too.
:edit: Would help if I read your post. The rates were for Friday night, but they have a $74 room for Sat. too.
:edit: Would help if I read your post. The rates were for Friday night, but they have a $74 room for Sat. too.
| Ice racer | 01-19-2005 09:26 PM |
[QUOTE=paultg]Is there a club discount or somone specific I shold talk to when calling for a hotel reservation? I just called the Best Western in Clifton Park and the cheapest rate was $85? I'm not really worried about $10 difference, but wanted to make sure I had all the required info.
I'm planning to drive up from NH on Saturday morning and stay overnight after the event.
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Paul,
No discount that I know of. Tim checked out the prices a couple weeks ago.
My cousin taught me something I never knew about motels last summer. He said they were like buying a new car. The price is completely negotiable. They want your business and will haggle to get it. He proved it to me by calling 8 motels in the Sandusky, Ohio area from his cell phone while we were on the interstate. Whatever price they told him, he calmly asked if they had anything cheaper and that he wasn't looking to spend that much. They typically asked if you have AAA, or something like that. Six out of eight dropped the price $10 to $15 just like that. We found one listing that sounded pretty fleabag, as the rate was only $35. It was next to a truck stop and we wouldn't have stayed there if it was free, but for giggles, he asked for a discount anyway. They said "OK $30". :lol:
Hey, look at it this way, you'll be running at an event that should probably cost $75 to $100 for only $35. How's that for a discount? :D
I'm planning to drive up from NH on Saturday morning and stay overnight after the event.
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Paul,
No discount that I know of. Tim checked out the prices a couple weeks ago.
My cousin taught me something I never knew about motels last summer. He said they were like buying a new car. The price is completely negotiable. They want your business and will haggle to get it. He proved it to me by calling 8 motels in the Sandusky, Ohio area from his cell phone while we were on the interstate. Whatever price they told him, he calmly asked if they had anything cheaper and that he wasn't looking to spend that much. They typically asked if you have AAA, or something like that. Six out of eight dropped the price $10 to $15 just like that. We found one listing that sounded pretty fleabag, as the rate was only $35. It was next to a truck stop and we wouldn't have stayed there if it was free, but for giggles, he asked for a discount anyway. They said "OK $30". :lol:
Hey, look at it this way, you'll be running at an event that should probably cost $75 to $100 for only $35. How's that for a discount? :D
| paultg | 01-20-2005 08:28 AM |
Cool. I forgot that sometimes the prices are cheaper if you book through the website.
My girlfriend told me this after I posted of course (she usually deals with reservations, I drive :) ).
BTW:
It looks like Round Lake is ~220 miles from my place in NH. That's about 3.5 hr drive at an average speed of 60 mph.
Is registration definetly from 8:00 - 10:30 Am? I'm sort of planning on leaving my place around 6AM. I've been to a few events in the past where they close registration early so they can start tech inspection and get the event going.
What time do you think the event will be finished up?
One more:
Do they do tech inspection and if so, will I have a prolbem having luggage and a cooler in the trunk of my car during the event?
Paul G.
My girlfriend told me this after I posted of course (she usually deals with reservations, I drive :) ).
BTW:
It looks like Round Lake is ~220 miles from my place in NH. That's about 3.5 hr drive at an average speed of 60 mph.
Is registration definetly from 8:00 - 10:30 Am? I'm sort of planning on leaving my place around 6AM. I've been to a few events in the past where they close registration early so they can start tech inspection and get the event going.
What time do you think the event will be finished up?
One more:
Do they do tech inspection and if so, will I have a prolbem having luggage and a cooler in the trunk of my car during the event?
Paul G.
| paultg | 01-20-2005 08:42 AM |
Just booked a room with the Hot Tub for $80 via the website. :) Much cheaper than the prices the person at the desk quoted me.
Can't wait for this event. I go to Team Oneil next weekend, and then I can try to undo everything they taught me at this event. :D
Paul G.
Can't wait for this event. I go to Team Oneil next weekend, and then I can try to undo everything they taught me at this event. :D
Paul G.
| Ice racer | 01-20-2005 08:50 AM |
[QUOTE=paultg]Is registration definetly from 8:00 - 10:30 Am? I'm sort of planning on leaving my place around 6AM. I've been to a few events in the past where they close registration early so they can start tech inspection and get the event going.[/QUOTE] Yes, it will close at 10:30. Tech will be going on simultaneosly with registration, not after. You might consider leaving a tick earlier.
[QUOTE=paultg]Also, do they do tech inspection and if so, will I have a prolbem having luggage and a cooler in the trunk of my car during the event?
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Yes. What most people do is bring a plastic tarp to put down on the ice and put all of their tools, luggage, etc in the tarp and cover it all up. Otherwise, there's always a pickup truck nearby with an empty bed. There is always a way, just ask. :)
Here's a clip from the [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm][b]rules page[/b][/URL]:
[COLOR=Black][i]No trucks or SUV�s allowed.
All cars will be inspected by the tech inspector. Cars deemed unsafe for any reason may be excluded or otherwise disqualified.
All cars must have secure parts including, but not limited to, exhaust parts, spare tires, and batteries. Hubcaps must be removed.
All loose items must be removed from inside the car for all runs.
Car numbers must be displayed on the vehicle or no credit will be given for a timed run. Cars with two drivers will be issued a number for each driver. Make sure the correct number assigned for each driver is clearly displayed for each driver.[/i][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=paultg]Also, do they do tech inspection and if so, will I have a prolbem having luggage and a cooler in the trunk of my car during the event?
Paul G.[/QUOTE] Yes. What most people do is bring a plastic tarp to put down on the ice and put all of their tools, luggage, etc in the tarp and cover it all up. Otherwise, there's always a pickup truck nearby with an empty bed. There is always a way, just ask. :)
Here's a clip from the [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm][b]rules page[/b][/URL]:
[COLOR=Black][i]No trucks or SUV�s allowed.
All cars will be inspected by the tech inspector. Cars deemed unsafe for any reason may be excluded or otherwise disqualified.
All cars must have secure parts including, but not limited to, exhaust parts, spare tires, and batteries. Hubcaps must be removed.
All loose items must be removed from inside the car for all runs.
Car numbers must be displayed on the vehicle or no credit will be given for a timed run. Cars with two drivers will be issued a number for each driver. Make sure the correct number assigned for each driver is clearly displayed for each driver.[/i][/COLOR]
| paultg | 01-20-2005 09:26 AM |
[QUOTE=Ice racer]
Here's a clip from the [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm][b]rules page[/b][/URL]:
[COLOR=Black][i]No trucks or SUV�s allowed.
All loose items must be removed from inside the car for all runs.
[/i][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
So, is the trunk considered "inside the car"? :lol: ;)
Just messing with ya. I'll bring a rubber maid container or something like that, just like I do for autox events.
Paul G.
Here's a clip from the [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm][b]rules page[/b][/URL]:
[COLOR=Black][i]No trucks or SUV�s allowed.
All loose items must be removed from inside the car for all runs.
[/i][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
So, is the trunk considered "inside the car"? :lol: ;)
Just messing with ya. I'll bring a rubber maid container or something like that, just like I do for autox events.
Paul G.
| TimStevens | 01-20-2005 09:34 AM |
Well, it sure ain't outside the car :)
| Ice racer | 01-27-2005 11:16 AM |
"Studs" event filled in record time!
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We are now full at 60 drivers and will no longer be accepting registrations. Thank you to all who have registered with us this year. Our new "track day" format and mandated winter tire rule for this year's event did not hurt car count at all. In fact, we have never had registration fill up this quickly in the past. We are looking forward to giving you all plenty of seat time compared to an all-solo event.
We have assembled an outstanding mix of powerful cars on some great winter and ice racing tires. I am very excited about it. The registration list can be viewed [b][URL=http://com4.runboard.com/bamecmessageboard.fmainchat.t138|offset=50]HERE[/URL][/b]. [b]Subarus[/b] filled half the show! :cool:
It should be mentioned that all cars should have some sort of [b]tow loop or hooks[/b] to enable the plow crews to connect their chain or tow strap to, to facilitate pulling them off of a snow bank if necessary.
Of course [b]none[/b] of you guys will need to be pulled from a snowbank right? :D
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0250.jpg[/img]
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator
We have assembled an outstanding mix of powerful cars on some great winter and ice racing tires. I am very excited about it. The registration list can be viewed [b][URL=http://com4.runboard.com/bamecmessageboard.fmainchat.t138|offset=50]HERE[/URL][/b]. [b]Subarus[/b] filled half the show! :cool:
It should be mentioned that all cars should have some sort of [b]tow loop or hooks[/b] to enable the plow crews to connect their chain or tow strap to, to facilitate pulling them off of a snow bank if necessary.
Of course [b]none[/b] of you guys will need to be pulled from a snowbank right? :D
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0250.jpg[/img]
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator
| TimStevens | 01-27-2005 11:24 AM |
Ahh... the infamous snowbank-humping TT.
| Osgood30 | 01-27-2005 11:26 AM |
Just an FYI for the organizers, Subarus have tow hook on the rear passenger side.
[IMG]http://taz.cs.wcupa.edu/~akozik/Suby/mini-P2010224.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://taz.cs.wcupa.edu/~akozik/Suby/mini-P2010224.jpg[/IMG]
| Ice racer | 01-27-2005 11:32 AM |
[QUOTE=Osgood30]Just an FYI for the organizers, Subarus have tow hook on the rear passenger side.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks Alex. :)
But in a pinch, the bumper cover will work too right? :D
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Thanks Alex. :)
But in a pinch, the bumper cover will work too right? :D
| TimStevens | 02-09-2005 09:40 AM |
In the off chance anyone didn't get the memo, the event has been moved from Round Lake.
Curious what the chances are of this being canceled at Caroga this weekend, since the racing didn't happen last weekend and it hasn't exactly been cold this week...
Curious what the chances are of this being canceled at Caroga this weekend, since the racing didn't happen last weekend and it hasn't exactly been cold this week...
| Ice racer | 02-09-2005 09:53 AM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens]In the off chance anyone didn't get the memo, the event has been moved from Round Lake.
[/QUOTE]
Yes, this event had been relocated to Caroga Lake, in Caroga Lake, NY. Just in case any of you would like to use Mapquest.com or similar to get directions to our place of registration, Vrooman's Hotel, their address is:
Vrooman's Hotel Inc
Routes 10 & 29A
Caroga Lake, NY 12032
Directions to the lake are also listed at the bottom of [URL=http://www.icerace.com/schedule.htm][b]THIS[/b][/URL] page.
[b]Also[/b]: I need to know how many of you are seeking to run in the begginer no-passing run group. Virtually no one has stated their intentions in this regard thus far. I officially have just one person who has requested the no passing group. Obviously one person doesn't constitute a run group. Don't reply here, please send your registered name and your reply to me at: [email][b][email�protected][/b][/email]. I am setting up the run groups today, so please reply a.s.a.p.
[QUOTE=TimStevens] Curious what the chances are of this being canceled at Caroga this weekend, since the racing didn't happen last weekend and it hasn't exactly been cold this week... [/QUOTE] Tim, just got my pc back this morning. It locked up at the worst possible time. In any case, ice doesn't melt that quickly. The reason we didn't race last weekend was because we were booked in at Canadarago Lake for a winter carnival. So we did not race because [i]that lake[/i] didn't have enough ice. We could have raced at Caroga. The next obstacle is to wait and see how badly this foot of snow we are suppposed to have tonight can screw up the good conditions on Caroga as I write this. Stay tuned...
[/QUOTE]
Yes, this event had been relocated to Caroga Lake, in Caroga Lake, NY. Just in case any of you would like to use Mapquest.com or similar to get directions to our place of registration, Vrooman's Hotel, their address is:
Vrooman's Hotel Inc
Routes 10 & 29A
Caroga Lake, NY 12032
Directions to the lake are also listed at the bottom of [URL=http://www.icerace.com/schedule.htm][b]THIS[/b][/URL] page.
[b]Also[/b]: I need to know how many of you are seeking to run in the begginer no-passing run group. Virtually no one has stated their intentions in this regard thus far. I officially have just one person who has requested the no passing group. Obviously one person doesn't constitute a run group. Don't reply here, please send your registered name and your reply to me at: [email][b][email�protected][/b][/email]. I am setting up the run groups today, so please reply a.s.a.p.
[QUOTE=TimStevens] Curious what the chances are of this being canceled at Caroga this weekend, since the racing didn't happen last weekend and it hasn't exactly been cold this week... [/QUOTE] Tim, just got my pc back this morning. It locked up at the worst possible time. In any case, ice doesn't melt that quickly. The reason we didn't race last weekend was because we were booked in at Canadarago Lake for a winter carnival. So we did not race because [i]that lake[/i] didn't have enough ice. We could have raced at Caroga. The next obstacle is to wait and see how badly this foot of snow we are suppposed to have tonight can screw up the good conditions on Caroga as I write this. Stay tuned...
| TimStevens | 02-09-2005 10:13 AM |
Ahh, sorry, I must have read the notice on the webpage wrong, I thought it said the races at caroga were cancelled last weekend.
| jeisen | 02-09-2005 06:06 PM |
I am not going now (was only going to spectate anyways) because it is just too far from me at caroga:(
| Tensen | 02-10-2005 09:06 PM |
Hey...I'm from the Tri-State forum, coming up to take photos of the event. planning on coming up friday night...any issues or clearances needed for spectating/photo?
| Ice racer | 02-16-2005 12:37 PM |
[QUOTE=Tensen]Hey...I'm from the Tri-State forum, coming up to take photos of the event. planning on coming up friday night...any issues or clearances needed for spectating/photo?[/QUOTE] [COLOR=Black]Tensen,
Sorry I didn't see your post until now. I hope you made it out and got some pictures.[/COLOR] :)
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0271.jpg[/IMG]
[COLOR=Black]I just want to say that A.M.E.C. is really pleased that you guys had a good time and appreciate the hard work of all of our volunteer workers and club officers this past weekend. We are very proud of our group and the successful event we were able to put on for you all. We thank all of the drivers who came long distances to participate. There were lots of interesting high performance cars there A.M.E.C. doesn't ususally have at their regular weekly events, so it was fun for us too.
The best part was many of you stayed and raced with us on Sunday. That was the icing on the cake.
This year's event sold out two weeks prior to the event date. That was a first. I had regular participants from prior years call me two days before the event and want to register. They were quite surprised that we were already booked two weeks earlier.
Final results are posted [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm][b]HERE[/b][/URL].
Photo links [URL=http://com4.runboard.com/bamecmessageboard.fmainchat.t186][b]HERE[/b][/URL] with more [URL=www.cooperstown.photoreflect.com ][b]HERE[/b][/URL] and even more [URL=http://com4.runboard.com/bamecmessageboard.fmainchat.t185][b]HERE[/b][/URL].
I want to thank all of the participants at this year's event for their great contact-free driving. We had far less tow outs from the snowbanks than ever before. Perhaps my insistence on only allowing true winter tires this year helped in that regard.
Those of you who are hooked on this stuff are invited to come out and race with us every weekend. Keep posting your pics from the event for all to enjoy and we'll see you all again next year.
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator[/COLOR]
Sorry I didn't see your post until now. I hope you made it out and got some pictures.[/COLOR] :)
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/Ice%20racing/Cnv0271.jpg[/IMG]
[COLOR=Black]I just want to say that A.M.E.C. is really pleased that you guys had a good time and appreciate the hard work of all of our volunteer workers and club officers this past weekend. We are very proud of our group and the successful event we were able to put on for you all. We thank all of the drivers who came long distances to participate. There were lots of interesting high performance cars there A.M.E.C. doesn't ususally have at their regular weekly events, so it was fun for us too.
The best part was many of you stayed and raced with us on Sunday. That was the icing on the cake.
This year's event sold out two weeks prior to the event date. That was a first. I had regular participants from prior years call me two days before the event and want to register. They were quite surprised that we were already booked two weeks earlier.
Final results are posted [URL=http://www.icerace.com/Studs-on-Ice%202005%20Info.htm][b]HERE[/b][/URL].
Photo links [URL=http://com4.runboard.com/bamecmessageboard.fmainchat.t186][b]HERE[/b][/URL] with more [URL=www.cooperstown.photoreflect.com ][b]HERE[/b][/URL] and even more [URL=http://com4.runboard.com/bamecmessageboard.fmainchat.t185][b]HERE[/b][/URL].
I want to thank all of the participants at this year's event for their great contact-free driving. We had far less tow outs from the snowbanks than ever before. Perhaps my insistence on only allowing true winter tires this year helped in that regard.
Those of you who are hooked on this stuff are invited to come out and race with us every weekend. Keep posting your pics from the event for all to enjoy and we'll see you all again next year.
Mike Kamm
A.M.E.C. VP
Studs on Ice coordinator[/COLOR]
| Snowphun | 02-16-2005 12:49 PM |
Mike, as I posted over on the icerace.com site I think you guys put on a great event, the best automotive event I've participated in. Friendly people all the way around, tons of seat time. Thanks again, can I register for next year now? ;)
One question: what's the idea behind plowing the course between sessions? I saw some trucks cleaning up the snow banks but it looked like others were scraping the small amount of snow off the course? I figured the snow would give us more grip?
Paul
One question: what's the idea behind plowing the course between sessions? I saw some trucks cleaning up the snow banks but it looked like others were scraping the small amount of snow off the course? I figured the snow would give us more grip?
Paul
| Ice racer | 02-16-2005 01:08 PM |
[QUOTE=Snowphun]Mike, as I posted over on the icerace.com site I think you guys put on a great event, the best automotive event I've participated in. Friendly people all the way around, tons of seat time. Thanks again, can I register for next year now? ;)
One question: what's the idea behind plowing the course between sessions? I saw some trucks cleaning up the snow banks but it looked like others were scraping the small amount of snow off the course? I figured the snow would give us more grip?
Paul[/QUOTE] [COLOR=Black]Paul, while [i]some[/i] snow gives our street tire equipped cars more grip, having 6" of it on the outside of a corner slows us back down. On the other hand a clean track helps the Menard and X-perimental tire cars in a big way. Our plow guys are so conditioned to track plowing between races [for our weekly Menard ice racing tire classes], that I had to ask them [b][i]not[/i][/b] to plow several times during the day and leave some powder out there for us. I did the same on Sunday morning for our wheel to wheel races. I told them: "No plowing before the Street legal classes please!"
I'll bet you've never seen another club where the plows guys plow [i]too much[/i] right? :D [/COLOR]
One question: what's the idea behind plowing the course between sessions? I saw some trucks cleaning up the snow banks but it looked like others were scraping the small amount of snow off the course? I figured the snow would give us more grip?
Paul[/QUOTE] [COLOR=Black]Paul, while [i]some[/i] snow gives our street tire equipped cars more grip, having 6" of it on the outside of a corner slows us back down. On the other hand a clean track helps the Menard and X-perimental tire cars in a big way. Our plow guys are so conditioned to track plowing between races [for our weekly Menard ice racing tire classes], that I had to ask them [b][i]not[/i][/b] to plow several times during the day and leave some powder out there for us. I did the same on Sunday morning for our wheel to wheel races. I told them: "No plowing before the Street legal classes please!"
I'll bet you've never seen another club where the plows guys plow [i]too much[/i] right? :D [/COLOR]
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