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Got Bandwidth?! Subaru Legacy GT In-Car Race Video part 1

GarySheehan 01-09-2007 05:36 PM

Got Bandwidth?! Subaru Legacy GT In-Car Race Video
I just got around to publishing this video. It was taken during the Grand Am Cup race at Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama on July 29th, 2006. The car is the 2006 Subaru Legacy GT built and campaigned by GOTO:Racing.

Due to an electrical glitch that kept us off the grid, we had to start from the very back of the field. There is lots of passing! Remember, no passing until you are past the start/finish line after the green flag waves... ;)

It's a big file but the quality is pretty good. 720x480, 197MB and 23 minutes long.

Right-click, save-as...

[url=http://www.garysheehan.com/movies/Barber2.mov][img]http://www.garysheehan.com/images/BarberVideo.jpg[/img][/url]

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
brianmcd 01-09-2007 05:52 PM

Downloading at ~600KB/sec. Can't wait to see it.
soji 01-09-2007 06:50 PM

[IMG]http://www.gotoracing.com/cgi-bin/gotogallery/image-cache/Legacy%20GT%20Build%20Pics/DSC00007_disp512.jpg[/IMG]

simply awesome that rx-8 was shooting serious flames

The RSX-S battle was awesome he had a little more, but you won out
leecea 01-09-2007 07:11 PM

Great video. Thanks for posting.
Mykl 01-09-2007 07:49 PM

Sweet, I love Barber... I can't wait to get out there again this year.
LetItSnow 01-09-2007 08:31 PM

Niiiice! My Legacy would cry in envy if it saw this.
heet 01-09-2007 10:57 PM

that was nice. better than any HPDE video. way to follow the "rubbin's racin'" rule.
Patrick L 01-10-2007 01:07 AM

Was that the Z4 that kept getting black flagged?

I noticed early in the video as you were going down the front straight. He was leaking fuild out the back on the right side.
Pakin 01-10-2007 01:13 AM

I love these videos!

Thanks for posting them!

-paK +3
TJ 01-10-2007 01:13 AM

[QUOTE=LetItSnow;16603126]Niiiice! My Legacy would cry in envy if it saw this.[/QUOTE]

+1 to that, i want that roll cage in the car :devil:
grippgoat 01-10-2007 01:21 AM

Ew, friends don't let friends post .mov. :P

But anyway, sweet vid. That RX8 just drove right into you (was it you, or one of the Locks?). I also couldn't help thinking it seemed like you were having a lot of trouble making passes stick, especially when you had the inside line going into a corner and it looked like you were right up next to the other car.

It's a shame you had to start from the back. :( The car was obviously much faster than the cars you were racing against, based on how fast you caught the next car after finishing a pass.

-Mike
Patrick L 01-10-2007 01:22 AM

BTW Gary, Nice driven!!

I was cheering you on as I was watching the video the whole time.
Notes:
RX8 too Loud! Need a Tom Special Muffler. LOL :P
You could really reel them in on turns over crests.
nhluhr 01-10-2007 03:29 AM

Awesome video with terrific action.

I'm really curious about the video equipment. It seemed the camera was moving inside the cockpit, but that it was somehow stabilized (very well) with the scenery. What setup is this? Is it just really good IS in the camera or a special stabilizing mount?
pio!pio! 01-10-2007 06:10 AM

Yeah that RX8 almost shoved you off
He prolly didn't know you were there? Or thought you would lift? Or is a bastard?

And rather than thinking of it as trouble making passes stick. I prefer to think of it as knowing it is not a sprint race, being a couple hours with pit stops, so no need to go maximum attack right at the beginning.

Seems like most of the guys you are fighting with were always caught out compromising their lines to defend their positions on corners leading to long straights!! hahaha
pio!pio! 01-10-2007 06:17 AM

BTW the audio and video were desyncronized for me, but I still enjoyed it.

I was wondering where all the GS cars were until the very end :P
mav1c 01-10-2007 10:58 AM

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah, the camera was very stable. What equipment were you using?

Do you have to run a stock exhaust? The car seemed so much quieter than anything else.

Thanks again, now I need to find a way to get to Barber. That track looks fun.
jeffreymstrong 01-10-2007 11:02 AM

Downloading now, I'll have to watch it during lunch today.
GarySheehan 01-10-2007 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=grippgoat;16606252]Ew, friends don't let friends post .mov. :P[/QUOTE]
I KNOW! I'm using the beta Handbrake for Windows to rip the DVD and I can't find a way to get it into a format that Sony Vegas Movie Studio will accept. Quicktime eats it up, though :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=grippgoat;16606252]I also couldn't help thinking it seemed like you
were having a lot of trouble making passes stick, especially when you had the inside line going into a corner and it looked like you were right up next to the other car.[/QUOTE]
Less trouble and more caution. If you notice in the video, a lot of these guys at the back of the grid are erratic in their lines and very unaware of the cars around them. There are a lot of new, relatively inexperienced drivers coming into GAC. Hell, I was run off the track on the very first lap by that clueless driver in the BMW. That solidified my mentality for the rest of my race:

1) It's wasn't my car
2) It was a long race
3) I wanted to give my codriver (Brian) a vehicle in great shape

So, if there was any doubt about the guy I was next to, I'd give him the corner and pass him in the next corner or two by intimidating him into a mistake at an apex.

[Quote=pio!pio!]He prolly didn't know you were there? Or thought you would lift? Or is a bastard?[/quote]
He must not have know I was there. The Legacy GT is SO quiet because the rules mandate a completely stock system from intake opening to exhaust tip. So if he wasn't looking for me, he'd never know I was there.

It was actually quite funny, because I saw him coming over on me and I just waited. Sure enough, bump. The other driver was so pissed off thinking I ran into him, shaking his fist out the window at me. I just had to laugh. The other driver was so upset, he missed two upshifts after the next corner and I just walked by him. You can hear me on the radio afterwards sharing the funny story with the crew :)

[Quote=pio!pio!]Seems like most of the guys you are fighting with were always caught out compromising their lines to defend their positions on corners leading to long straights!! hahaha[/quote]
Well, that's part of it. Get in their mirrors and distract them. Forcing the other driver into a mistake makes a pass much easier than stuffing it down the inside at the apex. Not that there's anything wrong with that ;)

[quote=mav1c]Yeah, the camera was very stable. What equipment were you using?[/quote]
I don't know. You'll have to ask the Locks that question. It does have very good image stabilization, though.

[quote=mav1c]Do you have to run a stock exhaust? The car seemed so much quieter than anything else.[/quote]
Yes, which makes it a little more difficult because all you can hear are the other cars' engines around you. Makes the shift light very important.

[quote=mav1c]Thanks again, now I need to find a way to get to Barber. That track looks fun.[/quote]
Barber is the most beautiful racing facility I've ever been to. There are some crazy sculptures all around the place in some very odd places. All the lawns are immaculately manicured. Just ask Tommy about the grass, as he got to see it VERY close up. I'll let him tell the story... :)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
timeless 01-10-2007 03:21 PM

Ooh, can't wait to see this video...downloading as we speak :banana:
goto_racing 01-10-2007 04:42 PM

I forgot you had this video, Gary. Thanks for posting it!

We should have alot more videos up by April. While we aren't going to be at the Florida races, we plan to bring the LGT back to ST duty in 2007, starting at Iowa Speedway and continuing through the rest of the season. We'll keep the cameras rolling and get all the action we can.

Chris Lock
goto_racing 01-10-2007 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=mav1c;16609557]
Yeah, the camera was very stable. What equipment were you using?
[/QUOTE]

Sony DCR-HC28. Sony image stabilization rocks.

[url]http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DCRHC28&Dept=cameras&CategoryName=dcc_DICamcorders_MiniDVHandycamCamcorders[/url]

Chris Lock
cooleyjb 01-10-2007 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=goto_racing;16615033]I forgot you had this video, Gary. Thanks for posting it!

We should have alot more videos up by April. While we aren't going to be at the Florida races, we plan to bring the LGT back to ST duty in 2007, starting at Iowa Speedway and continuing through the rest of the season. We'll keep the cameras rolling and get all the action we can.

Chris Lock[/QUOTE]

Sweet, I have credentials for the Iowa Grand Am race. I've been looking forward to seeing the car run.
chimchimm5 01-10-2007 09:10 PM

Nice vid!

I was getting mad at that RSX and the RX7. Especially that RX7.

I'm a noob at track stuff, but isn't some of that a black flag?
FromageTheDog 01-10-2007 09:59 PM

Wow, what a treat!

Question: it seems that the line that you are following is dramatically different from that of the others. For example, you seem far more able to hold to the inside (and cut corners [i]quite[/i] aggressively :D ), even more so than the 3-series Beemer, which really surprised me. Is this just indicative of differing skill levels, or the benefit of an AWD layout?
GarySheehan 01-10-2007 10:13 PM

[QUOTE=chimchimm5;16618534]Nice vid!

I was getting mad at that RSX and the RX7. Especially that RX7.

I'm a noob at track stuff, but isn't some of that a black flag?[/QUOTE]
Nope. Nothing black-flag-able in what they were doing.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
Black-Falcon 01-10-2007 10:19 PM

Wow great video. I got to talk to you guys when you were in Phoenix.

Here's a noob question for you: Why is there those 4-3-2-1 signs while about to enter a turn? Also: When are they going to allow you to modify the exhaust! Sooo quiet!
GarySheehan 01-10-2007 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=FromageTheDog;16619068]Wow, what a treat!

Question: it seems that the line that you are following is dramatically different from that of the others. For example, you seem far more able to hold to the inside (and cut corners [i]quite[/i] aggressively :D ), even more so than the 3-series Beemer, which really surprised me. Is this just indicative of differing skill levels, or the benefit of an AWD layout?[/QUOTE]
Lots of reasons. Different driver preferences, vehicle capabilities, driver skills and entry speeds.

However, I wanted to place the car on the inside like that. Who knows if they wanted their cars way out there where they were...

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
GarySheehan 01-10-2007 10:41 PM

double post :(
Mykl 01-10-2007 11:14 PM

Finally able to watch the video...

Great video, great driving. Where can I get info on when you will be running at, or when any of these kinds of races will be in the southeast? Had I known about this I definitely would have been in attendance.
LOLSTi 01-10-2007 11:32 PM

Glorious video. (I especially love the 911 at the end. :o )

Glad to see you are back in a Subaru for the WCGT. I love it.
nxttruck2002 01-10-2007 11:48 PM

Questions:

1. What were you saying when you passed the RX8?
2. What was that object in the middle on the track? I also heard yo talking then.
MaxSTi05 01-11-2007 02:18 AM

[QUOTE=GarySheehan;16619324]Lots of reasons. Different driver preferences, vehicle capabilities, driver skills and entry speeds.

However, I wanted to place the car on the inside like that. Who knows if they wanted their cars way out there where they were...

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url][/QUOTE]

This is something that kind of baffles me. On somewhat tighter tracks with decreasing radius, off-cambers, what IS the best line for AWD Subies? Is it better to late apex with deep braking then shoot for exit speeds, or follow the lines of momentum racers (low hp such as miatas, spec se-r, etc.)? It seems that I do better (butt dyno) with the late apex/exit speed method, on Streets of Willow and WSIR for example. But I can also hold a tighter line if I need to (-2.5/-1.5 camber) and hang on through the turn, catch the late apexers!

Great video, BTW, Gary! Very inspiring :D
jikhead 01-11-2007 03:26 AM

I envy you...
What kind of engine and suspension setup is on that car? And was that a
GT3 that passed you at the end?
mav1c 01-11-2007 08:45 AM

[QUOTE=LOLSTi;16620161]

Glad to see you are back in a Subaru for the WCGT. I love it.[/QUOTE]

Did I miss something? You're going to be in WCGT again? :huh:
goto_racing 01-11-2007 10:50 AM

[QUOTE=jikhead;16621863]I envy you...
What kind of engine and suspension setup is on that car?[/QUOTE]

The bottom end is built by GST Motorsports, but everything else is bone stock, as per Grand-Am rules. We run the first gen Cobb Access Port. Tuning is also done by GST.

In this video, the car had DMS 50mm on it, but that is going to change soon as Grand-Am transitions us to Koni products. For those that don't know, Koni is now the title sponsor. Sway bars are Hotchkis with Cobb endlinks.

Chris Lock
meld 01-11-2007 11:26 AM

wow, that is impressive
spazegun2213 01-11-2007 12:04 PM

[QUOTE=mav1c;16622844]Did I miss something? You're going to be in WCGT again? :huh:[/QUOTE]

DO what? gary.. is it true? Press release? photos? hints... you gotta give us something!
grippgoat 01-11-2007 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=spazegun2213;16625370]DO what? gary.. is it true? Press release? photos? hints... you gotta give us something![/QUOTE]

Look on the left under his name:

Vehicle:
2005 SPEED WCGT STi
Easy Street Red & White


I'm pretty sure he's just still fondly remembering Long Beach.

But... wasn't that 06?

-Mike
RALLYT-WRX 01-11-2007 12:36 PM

Do you have anymore video of that race?
GarySheehan 01-11-2007 12:59 PM

As far as I know, I don't yet have a ride in World Challenge GT for 2007. I think LOLSTi just made a mistake in the series name.

When my 2007 plans firm up, I'll be sure to let you guys know.

[quote=nxttruck2002]Questions:

1. What were you saying when you passed the RX8?
2. What was that object in the middle on the track? I also heard yo talking then.[/quote]
1. Something about how funny it was that the RX8 driver got pissed at me after he ran into me and that he was so flustered is missed two shifts and gave the position to me anyway :)
2. The object was the rear bumper cover of one of the Hondas. I believe I was informing the crew that we might get a full course yellow to clear that debris, so that they could work that into our strategy.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
Porter 01-11-2007 02:44 PM

Nice web host. Downloading at 1.5 MBps. :D
Porter 01-11-2007 02:48 PM

[quote=GarySheehan;16611500]I KNOW! I'm using the beta Handbrake for Windows to rip the DVD and I can't find a way to get it into a format that Sony Vegas Movie Studio will accept. Quicktime eats it up, though :rolleyes: [/quote]

Why Gary don't H.264? :)

[url]http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/MeGUI_H.264_Conversion_Guide_page1.html[/url]


There is a lot of good info on doom9.org, by the way. It's the NASIOC of video conversion. :D
goto_racing 01-11-2007 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=Black-Falcon;16619293]Here's a noob question for you: Why is there those 4-3-2-1 signs while about to enter a turn? [/QUOTE]

Most race tracks put up turn markers to help drivers gauge their position entering a turn. Some tracks have better natural references than other. These signs help with the drivers timing as he braking and turning in. They are most helpful at the end of long straights.

Chris Lock
grippgoat 01-11-2007 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=goto_racing;16628912]Most race tracks put up turn markers to help drivers gauge their position entering a turn. Some tracks have better natural references than other. These signs help with the drivers timing as he braking and turning in. They are most helpful at the end of long straights.

Chris Lock[/QUOTE]

And here I thought they were just for running over when taking the wide line going into turn 2 at Laguna Seca in Gran Turismo... :P

j/k

Some tracks (like Portland) have 400..300..200..100 signs, as well, although I'm not sure if that's feet, yards, meters, or what. I use them to gauge when I should start braking.

-Mike
GarySheehan 01-11-2007 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=grippgoat;16629087]Some tracks (like Portland) have 400..300..200..100 signs, as well, although I'm not sure if that's feet, yards, meters, or what. -Mike[/QUOTE]
They change the units randomly during the year to keep the drivers on their toes...

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
porkchop 01-11-2007 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=GarySheehan;16611500]
Barber is the most beautiful racing facility I've ever been to. There are some crazy sculptures all around the place in some very odd places. All the lawns are immaculately manicured. Just ask Tommy about the grass, as he got to see it VERY close up. I'll let him tell the story... :)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url][/QUOTE]


I still blame you... you set me up.. :monkey:
GarySheehan 01-11-2007 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=porkchop;16630059]I still blame you... you set me up.. :monkey:[/QUOTE]
Whatever, Tommy. Your riding on the back of golf cart privileges are over! Seriously, how hard is it to stand up and hold on?!

Man, you slid for miles. On your face! Hehe

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
nxttruck2002 01-11-2007 05:26 PM

.......
porkchop 01-11-2007 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=GarySheehan;16630700]Whatever, Tommy. Your riding on the back of golf cart privileges are over! Seriously, how hard is it to stand up and hold on?!

Man, you slid for miles. On your face! Hehe

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url][/QUOTE]


only because you bailed off the cart and messed up the whole balance... =P

I did slide for awhile didn't I? hahaha I went through the grass nascar style..

I really should stay off the carts.. consider I almost fell again at Miller..
LordBass 01-11-2007 06:03 PM

Thx for sharing the vid, Gary. Lots of fun to watch. :)
GarySheehan 01-11-2007 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=porkchop;16631184]I did slide for awhile didn't I? hahaha I went through the grass nascar style..[/QUOTE]
You mean whining and pointing the finger at someone else when you wrecked yourself? :devil:

Friends don't let friends face surf...stay off the cart!

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.garysheehan.com[/url]
LOLSTi 01-11-2007 09:43 PM

Sorry for the idiocy, I indeed meant GA and typed WC... I must have been reading the profile while typing. :lol:
Kostamojen 01-11-2007 10:37 PM

Good vid, finally watched it.

Ya, having the stock intake/exhaust must make it annoying for other folks to hear you... I guess you should have honked before that RX-8 hit you :lol: He was quite an annoying driver, and liked to get that back end out for no apparent reason (poorly setup car?)

That RSX sounded great at least as you passed it :p Good little battle.

That porsche though... Damn fast there at the end!
Impreza01 01-12-2007 05:29 AM

I thought the team was petitioning to at least have a catback so you and other cars can hear yours. I found it funny that the Legacy 2.5GT seemed like a luxury ride compared to the other cars, quiet and stable. :lol:

Is GOTO Racing compaigning again next year? I'm surprised no one tries the WRX in the GAC (to be known as KC) in this series.
mav1c 01-12-2007 09:03 AM

I was surprised at how much tire noise there was. Usually R-Comps are pretty quiet. Running Hoosiers?
goto_racing 01-12-2007 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Impreza01;16636963]
Is GOTO Racing compaigning again next year? I'm surprised no one tries the WRX in the GAC (to be known as KC) in this series.[/QUOTE]
Yes. With the exception of Daytona, our plan is to hit as many events as possible starting at Iowa in April. Dates like Laguna Seca, Mid-Ohio, Watkins Glen, and Miller are already cemented into our schedule, and we intend to add as many more as we can.

When we first approached GA about running a Subaru in their series, they were resistent to the idea of the WRX running. We then found SOA would support the homologation if we did a Legacy instead, and GA found this more to their liking. Hence the reason we built a legacy.

We are in the process of aquiring a second car, and we are currently interviewing funded drivers for all our seats. The number of events we do beyond those I stated above depends on the funding level of the drivers we find. Wish us luck.

Chris Lock
goto_racing 01-12-2007 11:10 AM

[QUOTE=mav1c;16637716]I was surprised at how much tire noise there was. Usually R-Comps are pretty quiet. Running Hoosiers?[/QUOTE]
The KCS Hoosier is a rather hard compound designed for endurance. I suspect this is why it is noisier than it's cousins.

Chris Lock
cooleyjb 01-12-2007 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=goto_racing;16639259]Yes. With the exception of Daytona, our plan is to hit as many events as possible starting at Iowa in April. Dates like Laguna Seca, Mid-Ohio, Watkins Glen, and Miller are already cemented into our schedule, and we intend to add as many more as we can.

When we first approached GA about running a Subaru in their series, they were resistent to the idea of the WRX running. We then found SOA would support the homologation if we did a Legacy instead, and GA found this more to their liking. Hence the reason we built a legacy.

We are in the process of aquiring a second car, and we are currently interviewing funded drivers for all our seats. The number of events we do beyond those I stated above depends on the funding level of the drivers we find. Wish us luck.

Chris Lock[/QUOTE]

This explains the Grand-am board posting from a couple of days ago.
Element Tuning 01-12-2007 11:21 AM

Great video! The problem however is that it let's me know just how much improvement is left in my driving. :lol:

It was fun to watch the short race with the #94 yellow Acura as he is my local race tire supplier :)

Even Hoosier R6s howl, it just means you are going fast. I watch my videos and when the tires aren't howling I know I should be going faster in that section. Gary was going so fast they were howling 1/2 way down the straights ;)

Thanks,
Phil
[url]www.elementtuning.com[/url]
Kostamojen 01-12-2007 01:14 PM

I didnt hear much tire noise :confused: I think my car is louder with street tires than the legacy :p

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