| BeeSTi | 02-08-2006 08:03 PM |
Poorman's HELLA TWIN style Mod - UPDATED PICS 020906
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Ok, i was under my hood while installing my water temp sensor and happened to notice that our cars had two stock horns. I took them off and noticed that on the back, they are rated at 110 db. Hella Twin Supertones are rated at 118 db. I haven't heard hella's in firsthand, but was always doubting myself that i really needed to upgrade my horns, since IMO, our stock horns were quite loud. Its not that i couldnt afford it, just couldnt give myself enough reason to upgrade. [B]Now, before I get flamed to death, [U]i'm not putting these up for comparison in terms of "loudness" against the hella[/U], [U]nor is it as nice looking as the hella twin[/U]. I am just doing this for exterior style points, in which case, this mod for me was 100% free.[/B] The only thing i had to commit to complete this was some time. besides, the money i saved was already spent on my hotchkis sway bars and poltec endlinks. (pictures of sways and links on page 3 - installed on 02/12/06)
If you are not as frugal as i am Here is the [URL="http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38783"]**DIY Hella Super Tones Install **[/URL] courtesy of ESsTeAEyEe
***had to delete the prior pictures due to too many pictures in post***
I extended the stock horn connection and made two grounding hooks to connect inbetween the horn bracket and the radiator mount screw.
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_6783.jpg[/IMG]
****its no longer bright red.****
!!!!!!!!!==============!!!!!!!!!==============!!!!!!!!!
Update
So i took alot of the advice given on here about the red. yes, it was too red. so i took specialev's advice to give it a dusting of black, but i also had some metallic silver spray paint and gave a dusting of that as well. the obnoxious red is gone, the relocation is gonna stay. and i think that will be the end for the horn mod, its pretty much gonna stay the way it is.
here are the pictures!
new paint job, looks metallic red in the sun, and kinda silver in the shade.
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7306.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7307.jpg[/IMG]
the remount
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7313.jpg[/IMG]
and the finished:
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7316.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/020906-targetgarage/smaller/IMG_7321.jpg[/IMG]
If you are not as frugal as i am Here is the [URL="http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38783"]**DIY Hella Super Tones Install **[/URL] courtesy of ESsTeAEyEe
***had to delete the prior pictures due to too many pictures in post***
I extended the stock horn connection and made two grounding hooks to connect inbetween the horn bracket and the radiator mount screw.
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_6783.jpg[/IMG]
****its no longer bright red.****
!!!!!!!!!==============!!!!!!!!!==============!!!!!!!!!
Update
So i took alot of the advice given on here about the red. yes, it was too red. so i took specialev's advice to give it a dusting of black, but i also had some metallic silver spray paint and gave a dusting of that as well. the obnoxious red is gone, the relocation is gonna stay. and i think that will be the end for the horn mod, its pretty much gonna stay the way it is.
here are the pictures!
new paint job, looks metallic red in the sun, and kinda silver in the shade.
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7306.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7307.jpg[/IMG]
the remount
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7313.jpg[/IMG]
and the finished:
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/modimages/hellastylemod/IMG_7316.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.bquach.com/subiru/020906-targetgarage/smaller/IMG_7321.jpg[/IMG]
| buzz367 | 02-08-2006 08:05 PM |
never seen that before
| specialev | 02-08-2006 08:09 PM |
That's funny! I just painted my Supertones black!
| WRXSIG | 02-08-2006 08:18 PM |
no offense..+1 for the effort. But supertones are like the cheapest thing next to gas you can do for your car.
| BeeSTi | 02-08-2006 08:22 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXSIG]no offense..+1 for the effort. But supertones are like the cheapest thing next to gas you can do for your car.[/QUOTE]
none taken, i'm aware that its a cheap mod. but i personally didn't have a problem with how loud my horns are. but, like i mentioned, i put that money towards sway bars, which i think is a more worthy mod.
none taken, i'm aware that its a cheap mod. but i personally didn't have a problem with how loud my horns are. but, like i mentioned, i put that money towards sway bars, which i think is a more worthy mod.
| kogs | 02-08-2006 08:25 PM |
Although personally I like the look of the hellas better, i think its sweet that you tried somthing new.
| rally_on | 02-08-2006 08:30 PM |
cool mod :)
| vwown3d | 02-08-2006 08:35 PM |
bump for a poor mans mod. i like the title!!
| muskaroxs | 02-08-2006 08:42 PM |
I just bought the paint to do the same thing sunday :cool:
| silver-RS | 02-08-2006 09:52 PM |
kinda ghetto...
| aldouse | 02-08-2006 09:56 PM |
haha.. ghetto +1.
i like!
i like!
| wrxsubaruwrx | 02-08-2006 09:58 PM |
[QUOTE=silver-RS]kinda ghetto...[/QUOTE]
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| BeeSTi | 02-08-2006 10:32 PM |
hence "poorman". i can always paint it black, to make it look stock. but the relocation will stay.
| silver-RS | 02-08-2006 10:33 PM |
[QUOTE=wrxsubaruwrx].........................[/QUOTE]
is the "thrumb down" toward my comment?
well if i said something that upset you I am sorry
but to me...if you can afford a STI then $50-60 for hella horn
is deffinately not expensive...i mean if you like the look of the horn
why not?
if you dont want to spend $50-60 then I think the stock horn
look just fine...painting it red make it look like some kinda toys
for a 3yr old...or a pair of nipples... as much as I apperciated
a whole write up for this mod but I think this make the car
look funny...
anyway...no hard feeling but I think I should explain it to you
if the thrumb down is for me...peace!
is the "thrumb down" toward my comment?
well if i said something that upset you I am sorry
but to me...if you can afford a STI then $50-60 for hella horn
is deffinately not expensive...i mean if you like the look of the horn
why not?
if you dont want to spend $50-60 then I think the stock horn
look just fine...painting it red make it look like some kinda toys
for a 3yr old...or a pair of nipples... as much as I apperciated
a whole write up for this mod but I think this make the car
look funny...
anyway...no hard feeling but I think I should explain it to you
if the thrumb down is for me...peace!
| anthonyrb98 | 02-08-2006 10:37 PM |
wow, and this guy owns an sti
| offset | 02-08-2006 10:39 PM |
A for effort. I would say there is too much red going on though. You almost need like a bit of a black grill look on them. Maybe paint some black lines back on there?
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| couchflambeau | 02-08-2006 10:50 PM |
Thanks for the idea.... Going to dump my old scrungy air horns (been thru 3 cars) and go with the hella's in that high-mount position...
Those should work great with my alarm too!
Those should work great with my alarm too!
| hikeeba | 02-08-2006 11:20 PM |
Insert tongue into cheek...
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I see no point. There is no way you're getting any hp gains out of this hilbilly ghetto mod. If you can afford an STi grill and a STi stencil for your TMIC, then you can certainly afford 7 or 8 gold- or platinum-plated 'see-u-in-Hella SuperTones.
Har har! I'm kidding!!!!1!! Really, that's a great idea and a great and easy DIY mod. Good thinking!
What kills me is how sooo many people around here are so quick quick to jump all over any DIY mod. And the simpler the mod, the more criticism it generates. Plus, I love the "If you can afford and WRX/STi, then you should be able to (insert modded part here)." There is a lot of satisfaction that can be had by doing a DIY mod, regardless of how 'cheap' it may be.
Again, nice mod. I like it! Keep rawkin' the DIY mods! (good pics, too!)
Har har! I'm kidding!!!!1!! Really, that's a great idea and a great and easy DIY mod. Good thinking!
What kills me is how sooo many people around here are so quick quick to jump all over any DIY mod. And the simpler the mod, the more criticism it generates. Plus, I love the "If you can afford and WRX/STi, then you should be able to (insert modded part here)." There is a lot of satisfaction that can be had by doing a DIY mod, regardless of how 'cheap' it may be.
Again, nice mod. I like it! Keep rawkin' the DIY mods! (good pics, too!)
| Calamity Jesus | 02-08-2006 11:23 PM |
[QUOTE=BeeSTi]I took them off and noticed that on the back, they are rated at 110 db. Hella Twin Supertones are rated at 118 db.[/QUOTE]
The difference in actual sound levels between 118 and 110 is not a simple '8' as you seem to imply. Decibels are a simplified way to compare two sounds.
For every 10dB of increase, the actual sound levels increase by a [B]factor[/B] of 10. The difference in sound levels of 8dB means that 118dB is somewhere around 5 times louder than 110dB.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I do like the look, though.
The difference in actual sound levels between 118 and 110 is not a simple '8' as you seem to imply. Decibels are a simplified way to compare two sounds.
For every 10dB of increase, the actual sound levels increase by a [B]factor[/B] of 10. The difference in sound levels of 8dB means that 118dB is somewhere around 5 times louder than 110dB.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I do like the look, though.
| Lexington | 02-08-2006 11:31 PM |
if you don't have 250$ to fork over for supertones and a set of springs... you shouldn't own a WRX... it isn't in your optimal price range...
| Lexington | 02-08-2006 11:33 PM |
[QUOTE=Beaverboy]The difference in actual sound levels between 118 and 110 is not a simple '8' as you seem to imply. Decibels are a simplified way to compare two sounds.
For every 10dB of increase, the actual sound levels increase by a [B]factor[/B] of 10. The difference in sound levels of 8dB means that 118dB is somewhere around 5 times louder than 110dB.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I do like the look, though.[/QUOTE]
I thought for every 10db it is double-loud
i.e. 40 db is twice as loud as 30db
40db is 4 times as loud as 20db
maybe not??
For every 10dB of increase, the actual sound levels increase by a [B]factor[/B] of 10. The difference in sound levels of 8dB means that 118dB is somewhere around 5 times louder than 110dB.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I do like the look, though.[/QUOTE]
I thought for every 10db it is double-loud
i.e. 40 db is twice as loud as 30db
40db is 4 times as loud as 20db
maybe not??
| couchflambeau | 02-09-2006 12:05 AM |
Generally you need a 6 to 10 dB increase in Spl for a perceived doubling in volume....
-or something like that..... course' hearing is highly subjective.... ;)
-or something like that..... course' hearing is highly subjective.... ;)
| IIdiceII | 02-09-2006 12:06 AM |
props for being original but they look like 2 red lights or something...I dont really like em, sorry bro
| couchflambeau | 02-09-2006 12:08 AM |
Has anyone taken the Hella's apart and painted the red "Grills" black?
| twizzstyle | 02-09-2006 12:16 AM |
I like the idea, very clever. :)
One thing I may be a bit concerned with, is they are a very bright red, and they almost look like red lights to me. Don't wanna get a ticket for looking like an emergency vehicle.
One thing I may be a bit concerned with, is they are a very bright red, and they almost look like red lights to me. Don't wanna get a ticket for looking like an emergency vehicle.
| specialev | 02-09-2006 12:18 AM |
[QUOTE=couchflambeau]Has anyone taken the Hella's apart and painted the red "Grills" black?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Cleaned with acetone, primed, then blacked 'em out. I was kinda thinking along the lines of what Twzzstyle mentioned above; I don't want any unneccessary attention.
Yes. Cleaned with acetone, primed, then blacked 'em out. I was kinda thinking along the lines of what Twzzstyle mentioned above; I don't want any unneccessary attention.
| wrxsubaruwrx | 02-09-2006 12:31 AM |
[QUOTE=silver-RS]is the "thrumb down" toward my comment?
well if i said something that upset you I am sorry
but to me...if you can afford a STI then $50-60 for hella horn
is deffinately not expensive...i mean if you like the look of the horn
why not?
if you dont want to spend $50-60 then I think the stock horn
look just fine...painting it red make it look like some kinda toys
for a 3yr old...or a pair of nipples... as much as I apperciated
a whole write up for this mod but I think this make the car
look funny...
anyway...no hard feeling but I think I should explain it to you
if the thrumb down is for me...peace![/QUOTE]
No I also think it's ghetto .
well if i said something that upset you I am sorry
but to me...if you can afford a STI then $50-60 for hella horn
is deffinately not expensive...i mean if you like the look of the horn
why not?
if you dont want to spend $50-60 then I think the stock horn
look just fine...painting it red make it look like some kinda toys
for a 3yr old...or a pair of nipples... as much as I apperciated
a whole write up for this mod but I think this make the car
look funny...
anyway...no hard feeling but I think I should explain it to you
if the thrumb down is for me...peace![/QUOTE]
No I also think it's ghetto .
| BeeSTi | 02-09-2006 12:33 AM |
[QUOTE=twizzstyle]I like the idea, very clever. :)
One thing I may be a bit concerned with, is they are a very bright red, and they almost look like red lights to me. Don't wanna get a ticket for looking like an emergency vehicle.[/QUOTE]
good point, really didn't think about how red it was, but i can see how it being just red and actually looking like red lights (due to the reflectiveness) can be of concern. i'll probably add some black, more likely MORE black than red, since that seems to be the consensus.
[QUOTE=Beaverboy]The difference in actual sound levels between 118 and 110 is not a simple '8' as you seem to imply. Decibels are a simplified way to compare two sounds.
For every 10dB of increase, the actual sound levels increase by a [B]factor[/B] of 10. The difference in sound levels of 8dB means that 118dB is somewhere around 5 times louder than 110dB.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I do like the look, though.[/QUOTE]
well i can't really argue, because i do not know how the db level system. but something 5 times as loud cannot be safe. again, as i mentioned, i haven't had first hand experience with hella super tones. but didn't really want to upgrade horns.
and to everyone else, your right, 65$ on some horns isn't all that much, but again, in my opinion, my horn level the way it was was loud enough. i really didn't need it louder.
so if the red so much is what makes it look gaudy, [B]i'll probably fix that, b/c it really is too red[/B]. this was my first pass at the horn mod so no big deal.
One thing I may be a bit concerned with, is they are a very bright red, and they almost look like red lights to me. Don't wanna get a ticket for looking like an emergency vehicle.[/QUOTE]
good point, really didn't think about how red it was, but i can see how it being just red and actually looking like red lights (due to the reflectiveness) can be of concern. i'll probably add some black, more likely MORE black than red, since that seems to be the consensus.
[QUOTE=Beaverboy]The difference in actual sound levels between 118 and 110 is not a simple '8' as you seem to imply. Decibels are a simplified way to compare two sounds.
For every 10dB of increase, the actual sound levels increase by a [B]factor[/B] of 10. The difference in sound levels of 8dB means that 118dB is somewhere around 5 times louder than 110dB.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I do like the look, though.[/QUOTE]
well i can't really argue, because i do not know how the db level system. but something 5 times as loud cannot be safe. again, as i mentioned, i haven't had first hand experience with hella super tones. but didn't really want to upgrade horns.
and to everyone else, your right, 65$ on some horns isn't all that much, but again, in my opinion, my horn level the way it was was loud enough. i really didn't need it louder.
so if the red so much is what makes it look gaudy, [B]i'll probably fix that, b/c it really is too red[/B]. this was my first pass at the horn mod so no big deal.
| specialev | 02-09-2006 12:39 AM |
You could pull 'em out and give them a light dusting of overspray from a can of black spray paint if you wanna subdue the red a little.
| BeeSTi | 02-09-2006 12:44 AM |
[QUOTE=specialev]You could pull 'em out and give them a light dusting of overspray from a can of black spray paint if you wanna subdue the red a little.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the positive advice, i'll probably do that when i have some time tomorrow. i think a light dusting of black would make it look pretty cool, like lightly smoked lenses. sweet suggestion! :)
thanks for the positive advice, i'll probably do that when i have some time tomorrow. i think a light dusting of black would make it look pretty cool, like lightly smoked lenses. sweet suggestion! :)
| pdxsilverwrx | 02-09-2006 12:44 AM |
I also would be concerned that some over zealous cop would use the color as an excuse to pull you over.
| t3hWIT | 02-09-2006 01:33 AM |
[QUOTE=specialev]That's funny! I just painted my Supertones black![/QUOTE]
Same here! Gloss, or black? I chose the later...
Same here! Gloss, or black? I chose the later...
| specialev | 02-09-2006 01:38 AM |
Semi gloss, I think. Definately flat now that they have a solid layer of crud on 'em. :D
| beastSTI | 02-09-2006 01:44 AM |
That Is Hawt!
| BeeSTi | 02-09-2006 02:08 AM |
[QUOTE=beastSTI]That Is Hawt![/QUOTE]
nice name!
nice name!
| MannyMohawk#5 | 02-09-2006 02:17 AM |
I think nawt!
| beastSTI | 02-09-2006 03:11 AM |
[QUOTE=BeeSTi]nice name![/QUOTE]
YOU have a HAWT name :)
YOU have a HAWT name :)
| cMags | 02-09-2006 09:01 AM |
[QUOTE=Lexington]I thought for every 10db it is double-loud
i.e. 40 db is twice as loud as 30db
40db is 4 times as loud as 20db
maybe not??[/QUOTE]
Nope, Beaverboy was right, 10dB is [I]about[/I] 10x as loud.
3dB is the doubling factor, so if you have 9dB louder (3+3+3), you have 8x as loud (2x2x2). So 10dB is approx 10x as loud.
Personally, I like the little 'personalization' mods the best out of anything people do. I bet that's one of the only cars with red stock horns out there, but Hellas are everywhere.
I'd like to upgrade the horns sometime too, but I've heard the Supertones, and their European-style sound is a little high-pitched for my taste. I'd like something a little lower. Now that guy with the video of his airhorns was funny... :lol:
i.e. 40 db is twice as loud as 30db
40db is 4 times as loud as 20db
maybe not??[/QUOTE]
Nope, Beaverboy was right, 10dB is [I]about[/I] 10x as loud.
3dB is the doubling factor, so if you have 9dB louder (3+3+3), you have 8x as loud (2x2x2). So 10dB is approx 10x as loud.
Personally, I like the little 'personalization' mods the best out of anything people do. I bet that's one of the only cars with red stock horns out there, but Hellas are everywhere.
I'd like to upgrade the horns sometime too, but I've heard the Supertones, and their European-style sound is a little high-pitched for my taste. I'd like something a little lower. Now that guy with the video of his airhorns was funny... :lol:
| russd32 | 02-09-2006 09:07 AM |
I like it!
| mrjasey | 02-09-2006 09:34 AM |
i dont like how it looks, so for me it defeats the whole purpose since it is a cosmetic mod.
but if u like it then cool since u have to drive it
but if u like it then cool since u have to drive it
| Chp_Stix | 02-09-2006 09:42 AM |
looks great and just to give you an ideas fo the difference between supertones and stock. every 4db you go up acctually doubles in how loud it is. so 114db is twice as loud as stock and 118db is twice as loud as that. But it looks great and if you dont need the supertones i would say that is the way to go. Good Job!
| Chp_Stix | 02-09-2006 09:47 AM |
oh and in defence of DIY mods i would like to know how many people with clearded headlights bought their own. if you can afford a WRX/STi... whatever DIY mods rock! i did my own headlights and people want to pay me to do theirs for them. keep rockin the DIY mods!!!!!
| WRXDriftR | 02-09-2006 11:40 AM |
they look silly :p but cool in a way
what if a retarded cop gives you a ticket for impersonating a police vehicle b/c he thinks they are red lights or something. ive heard that happend once.
now THESE are horns
[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/WRX%20Pics/HellaSupertones2.JPG[/IMG]
what if a retarded cop gives you a ticket for impersonating a police vehicle b/c he thinks they are red lights or something. ive heard that happend once.
now THESE are horns
[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/WRX%20Pics/HellaSupertones2.JPG[/IMG]
| o2sys | 02-09-2006 12:16 PM |
ewwwww
| poormansporsche | 02-09-2006 12:56 PM |
Not my kind of flava but some good thinking.
Actually, and this is an approximation, a rise of 10db (or one bel) can be perceived by most people as 2 times the volume. A lot of people can't tell the difference of a 1db volume change. I'm an audio engineer. If you still think I'm full of it go search rec.audio.pro on usenet.
cheers
garrett
Actually, and this is an approximation, a rise of 10db (or one bel) can be perceived by most people as 2 times the volume. A lot of people can't tell the difference of a 1db volume change. I'm an audio engineer. If you still think I'm full of it go search rec.audio.pro on usenet.
cheers
garrett
| spit_heron | 02-09-2006 01:33 PM |
well i never understood the whole upgraded horn thing, so naturally fake upgraded horns get a big :huh:
| tooocool49723 | 02-09-2006 01:48 PM |
our stock horns suck. The first week I had my car some idiot tried to merge into the side of it!!! Tried honking my horn, but it couldn't be heard (and I could barely hear it inside the car). I got home and the first thing I did was to rip it out and replace it with one of the horns from my firebird. MUCH louder, even though it's ten years older. Subaru horns suck.
I'm getting supertones asap...
I'm getting supertones asap...
| Mr. Sadface | 02-09-2006 01:51 PM |
Points for the poor man!
| Jasper | 02-09-2006 04:28 PM |
[QUOTE=Lexington]I thought for every 10db it is double-loud
i.e. 40 db is twice as loud as 30db
40db is 4 times as loud as 20db
maybe not??[/QUOTE]
every 3dB = doubled "loudness" (on a meter anyways). basically, +3db = double the sound pressure/intensity. as states above, ~ 10dB is "percieved" double loudness
how MUCH louder it is depends on perception, and how much of your hearing you still have (i know i've lost ~ 10% in both ears, was in a band for ~ 6 years, and never wore any hearing protection while standing 3 feet from drums, 2 guitar cabs, and my bass amp, and we always practiced full volume)
i.e. 40 db is twice as loud as 30db
40db is 4 times as loud as 20db
maybe not??[/QUOTE]
every 3dB = doubled "loudness" (on a meter anyways). basically, +3db = double the sound pressure/intensity. as states above, ~ 10dB is "percieved" double loudness
how MUCH louder it is depends on perception, and how much of your hearing you still have (i know i've lost ~ 10% in both ears, was in a band for ~ 6 years, and never wore any hearing protection while standing 3 feet from drums, 2 guitar cabs, and my bass amp, and we always practiced full volume)
| djcttb | 02-09-2006 04:52 PM |
comeon now man u own a subaru not a 89 civic.
take some pride in your car.
take some pride in your car.
| poormansporsche | 02-09-2006 04:58 PM |
Should also note that 10db of electrical flow is different than 10db of the cone of a transducer. Which I think causes a lot of confusion.
cheers
garrett
cheers
garrett
| BeeSTi | 02-09-2006 05:00 PM |
[QUOTE=djcttb]comeon now man u own a subaru not a 89 civic.
take some pride in your car.[/QUOTE]
i'll have you know i love my car! my hotchkis sway bars came in today. the red bars would have matched nicely.
take some pride in your car.[/QUOTE]
i'll have you know i love my car! my hotchkis sway bars came in today. the red bars would have matched nicely.
| Porter | 02-09-2006 05:04 PM |
Real men run Stebel horns.
| sonicsuby | 02-09-2006 05:10 PM |
Sorry to be rude, that is ghetto.
| thebing | 02-09-2006 07:05 PM |
not to bash or flame, because its your car, so you can do as you like. but what about the guy who wants to steal your car? i thought one of those horns was tucked away because its the car alarm horn? so now all he has to do is reach in with pliers, snip your wires, and your car cant let ppl know its getting stolen?
| hystikal | 02-09-2006 07:52 PM |
[QUOTE=BeeSTi]Ok, i was under my hood while installing my water temp sensor and happened to notice that our cars had two stock horns. I took them off and noticed that on the back, [B]they are rated at 110 db. Hella Twin Supertones are rated at 118 db. [/B] I haven't heard hella's in firsthand, but was always doubting myself that i really needed to upgrade my horns, since IMO, our stock horns were quite loud. Its not that i couldnt afford it, just couldnt give myself enough reason to upgrade. Now, before I get flamed to death, i'm not putting these up for comparison in terms of "loudness" against the hella, nor is my red disc front as nice looking as the hella twin. I am just doing this for exterior style points, in which case, this mod for me was 100% free. The only thing i had to commit to complete this was some time. besides, the money i saved was already spent on my hotchkis sway bars and poltec endlinks....
This is a good post, but just to be clear (and I am NOT flaming you), the decibel scale is logarithmic..."loudness" doubles every 3 dB, so the hellas are almost 3 times as loud as the stock. :)
This is a good post, but just to be clear (and I am NOT flaming you), the decibel scale is logarithmic..."loudness" doubles every 3 dB, so the hellas are almost 3 times as loud as the stock. :)
| AudiTTkiller | 02-10-2006 12:38 AM |
ok let me get this straight you dont think supertones are worth it butttttttttttttttt youll paint the stock horns red? looks terrible by the way
| fastseven | 02-10-2006 12:43 AM |
Um, that's great. i painted my Supertones black to be different and I thought the big red discs behind the grille look gay. If you want loud horns, rent a Cadillac and swap the horns. They'll never know until 5 or 6 rentals later.
| animes2k | 02-10-2006 03:40 AM |
[QUOTE=fastseven]Um, that's great. i painted my Supertones black to be different and I thought the big red discs behind the grille look gay. If you want loud horns, rent a Cadillac and swap the horns. They'll never know until 5 or 6 rentals later.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, go steal someone else's horns. :rolleyes:
I put a set of Hella air horns that sound like a Buick in the Subie for under $30. Sure seems louder. Definitely deeper and gets peoples attention much better.
Yeah, go steal someone else's horns. :rolleyes:
I put a set of Hella air horns that sound like a Buick in the Subie for under $30. Sure seems louder. Definitely deeper and gets peoples attention much better.
| couchflambeau | 02-10-2006 04:01 AM |
[QUOTE=hystikal]This is a good post, but just to be clear (and I am NOT flaming you), the decibel scale is logarithmic..."loudness" doubles every 3 dB, so the hellas are almost 3 times as loud as the stock. :)[/QUOTE]
8-ball says you're wrong Cochise..... 2 points for the Audio Engineer Coxmaster..... 6-10 dB is what the average person would percieve as a "doubling" of sound volume. Of course since that includes the average Joe.... (even the dumb ones....lol!!) thus it's an approximate value.
Going to go out on a limb for this one (it's been a long time since I read it).... but I believe to get a 3 dB increase in Spl it requires twice the electrical energy (amp power). That might be where your confusion lies, Daniel-san......
8-ball says you're wrong Cochise..... 2 points for the Audio Engineer Coxmaster..... 6-10 dB is what the average person would percieve as a "doubling" of sound volume. Of course since that includes the average Joe.... (even the dumb ones....lol!!) thus it's an approximate value.
Going to go out on a limb for this one (it's been a long time since I read it).... but I believe to get a 3 dB increase in Spl it requires twice the electrical energy (amp power). That might be where your confusion lies, Daniel-san......
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