| M | 10-28-2006 12:39 AM |
I want to say that I had no part in the ESX program, but they did fine for their first race and insane timeline. A rational and experienced racer's goal would be to finish the race without incident. They had an incident but they finished.
- professional sack swinger
- professional sack swinger
| JMU R1 | 10-30-2006 05:51 AM |
[[email�protected];15777630]this has been a long time, Irish Mikes Racing pulled out of WCTC due to lack of funds. Marketing seems more important than finishing. We did not have a huge factory rig, just a toter and trailer which we were one of the only teams using ours to sleep in. Last year we had more publicity than anyother WCTC team (outside the top 3), and even Subies in other series the whole year. More T.V. and magazine spots and thats without a top 10. It got us nowhere. Our Marketing to sponsors was not strong or thourough enough!
We had a brilliant car handling wise, but reliability was a killer. The main reason we pulled out was that SOA pulled our contingency program due to lack of funds (they say)!
WCTC and WCGT is not for the privateer anymore, its factory or nothing. You are looking at almost $250,000+ just to run one season not including building of the car, which in SWTC is around $150 k.[/QUOTE]
It's sucks but what you guys ran into is the fact that SWC doesn't have good enough sponsor value to cover the enormous costs of racing. Unfortunately the rules creep has just allowed the budgets to outpace the amount of $$$ available in sponsorship by more and more each year and it makes it harder for new teams to take the risk of joining the series.
It's a shame, but that's why you can't really count on getting sponsors to defray a significant portion of your cost in the first year or so unless you have some personal connections.
Even then, you may have to rent some seats out to make the financials work. This is why Grand Am Cup is a better deal financially because not only are the cars cheaper but you can split the cost of a weekend between 2 drivers instead of one.
Too bad GAC's TV package kind of sucks.
We had a brilliant car handling wise, but reliability was a killer. The main reason we pulled out was that SOA pulled our contingency program due to lack of funds (they say)!
WCTC and WCGT is not for the privateer anymore, its factory or nothing. You are looking at almost $250,000+ just to run one season not including building of the car, which in SWTC is around $150 k.[/QUOTE]
It's sucks but what you guys ran into is the fact that SWC doesn't have good enough sponsor value to cover the enormous costs of racing. Unfortunately the rules creep has just allowed the budgets to outpace the amount of $$$ available in sponsorship by more and more each year and it makes it harder for new teams to take the risk of joining the series.
It's a shame, but that's why you can't really count on getting sponsors to defray a significant portion of your cost in the first year or so unless you have some personal connections.
Even then, you may have to rent some seats out to make the financials work. This is why Grand Am Cup is a better deal financially because not only are the cars cheaper but you can split the cost of a weekend between 2 drivers instead of one.
Too bad GAC's TV package kind of sucks.
| Justin911 | 02-11-2007 03:34 AM |
Gary, what was said above is so well said! I am really looking forward to seeing you again at this years Race. I am sure you will be very busy, but hopefully i will get to say Hi! I look forward to the changes with the team and the car and I also look forward to a huge change from last year. I think its time that the SUBARU gives those other cars a run for their money. I look forward to April Gary.
I also wanted to state. That my neighbor and I will be going again like last year and we would like to offer any and all help that you and your team my need!
see you in Long Beach!
Justin
I also wanted to state. That my neighbor and I will be going again like last year and we would like to offer any and all help that you and your team my need!
see you in Long Beach!
Justin
| Scoobie Doogie | 02-11-2007 02:19 PM |
I think the fact is that Subaru doesn't think that Subie folks like road racing so they don't want to put the funds into it.
:sad:
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| Justin911 | 02-11-2007 09:41 PM |
umm I don't really think so.... its an idea though. I think subaru's main focus would be and is Rally. I'll bet they think there is more potential with the rally aspect over the road racing. BUT in away road racing and rally is very similar. well what ever subaru supports is cool with me, beause i will be backing them 100%
| Rally_wgn | 02-12-2007 09:06 PM |
Here's hoping Gary, MPME and the rest of the crew get more TV this year. The same for the guys at GOTO and ICY.
| joey1313 | 02-13-2007 11:09 AM |
I understand SOA backing drag racing, because of the numbers of people watching and doing it. I don't understand SOA not backing roadracing for the same reasons. More people roadrace in the US than the number of people who stage rally.
| RBelcher00 | 02-13-2007 07:18 PM |
[QUOTE=elgorey;15732319]"[i]With our tremendous presence at our Subaru/SPT/ESX hospitality area, we were dominating the marketing! We had our primary 70ft transport on display with music, food and drinks for all our guests. We had the "Ultiimate" Tail Gate vehicle; our B9 Tribeca that was customized with Sony Xplod Audio/Visual system showing a "Live Feed" of the race on a 27 inch TV Screen.[/i]"
I wonder why they didnt have the funding to keep going :rolleyes:
Bimmerworld started out towing to the track with an old 80s ford truck and beat up open trailer. They focused on performance, started getting top 5s (and podiums) which allowed them to build up their customer base, got some paid rides, and NOW they have the blingin race rig since they can actually afford it. Most of these teams (like Irish Mikes too) would do well for themselves to take the example.[/QUOTE]
Oh god... Not this argument again...
:rolleyes:
I wonder why they didnt have the funding to keep going :rolleyes:
Bimmerworld started out towing to the track with an old 80s ford truck and beat up open trailer. They focused on performance, started getting top 5s (and podiums) which allowed them to build up their customer base, got some paid rides, and NOW they have the blingin race rig since they can actually afford it. Most of these teams (like Irish Mikes too) would do well for themselves to take the example.[/QUOTE]
Oh god... Not this argument again...
:rolleyes:
| 10th Warrior | 02-13-2007 08:37 PM |
[QUOTE=RBelcher00;17042412]Oh god... Not this argument again...
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Why are you quoting a post from 10/24/06? Especially when you posted in this very thread on 10/25/06. :huh: Maybe that's why the arguement sounds familiar?
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Why are you quoting a post from 10/24/06? Especially when you posted in this very thread on 10/25/06. :huh: Maybe that's why the arguement sounds familiar?
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