| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 04:26 PM |
What would you like to see more of on Speed TV?
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This Poll is in regards to [URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665380&page=1&pp=25]this thread (click me)[/URL]
We want to focus our collective effort on *ONE* specific race series (so pick your favorite!)...To ask Speed TV for just 30 more minutes of coverage (we'll work on this later)
Would you like to see [b]more[/b] attention given to a particular series already beign broadcasted (WRC, Speed GT, etc)??
Or would you like to see a racing series not broadcased, or no longer shown?
And again, let's decide on what to focus on and then we can decide on the details and how to approach this.If you don't see something on the list, just let me know and I will add it! And as a general rule, to avoid pointless arguments we've already had, you CANNOT use the word NASCAR in this thread ;) :D
Thank you EVERYONE for your cooperation! You will be rewarded! lol
And in case you need a refresher, check out the websites:
SCCA - [url]http://www.speedvisionwc.com/[/url] or [url]http://scca.org/[/url]
WRC - [url]http://www.wrc.com/[/url]
BTCC - [url]http://www.btccpages.com/[/url]
JGTC - [url]http://www.jgtcusa.net/[/url]
MotoGP - [url]http://www.motogp.com/[/url]
ALMS - [url]http://www.americanlemans.com/[/url]
(props to Subie Gal for the pollage ;) )
We want to focus our collective effort on *ONE* specific race series (so pick your favorite!)...To ask Speed TV for just 30 more minutes of coverage (we'll work on this later)
Would you like to see [b]more[/b] attention given to a particular series already beign broadcasted (WRC, Speed GT, etc)??
Or would you like to see a racing series not broadcased, or no longer shown?
And again, let's decide on what to focus on and then we can decide on the details and how to approach this.If you don't see something on the list, just let me know and I will add it! And as a general rule, to avoid pointless arguments we've already had, you CANNOT use the word NASCAR in this thread ;) :D
Thank you EVERYONE for your cooperation! You will be rewarded! lol
And in case you need a refresher, check out the websites:
SCCA - [url]http://www.speedvisionwc.com/[/url] or [url]http://scca.org/[/url]
WRC - [url]http://www.wrc.com/[/url]
BTCC - [url]http://www.btccpages.com/[/url]
JGTC - [url]http://www.jgtcusa.net/[/url]
MotoGP - [url]http://www.motogp.com/[/url]
ALMS - [url]http://www.americanlemans.com/[/url]
(props to Subie Gal for the pollage ;) )
| Gravel Girl | 11-22-2004 04:28 PM |
W.....R.....C.....
& other Rally coverage.....
More US rally.....
& other Rally coverage.....
More US rally.....
| Ferg | 11-22-2004 04:29 PM |
I think it's a shame Speed doesn't cover the Macau Grand Prix.
| BriDrive | 11-22-2004 04:53 PM |
Instead of Motorsport Mundial recaps, I would like to see, even in abbreviated form, FIA GT championship series races.
More attention SHOULD be given to Speed World Challenge, GT & Touring. Heck, they are the primary sponsor. Think of how great an "inside look" type show would be of this series....especially touring car.
BriDrive inputs............
More attention SHOULD be given to Speed World Challenge, GT & Touring. Heck, they are the primary sponsor. Think of how great an "inside look" type show would be of this series....especially touring car.
BriDrive inputs............
| V8VENOM | 11-22-2004 04:55 PM |
Anything that is NOT oval racing. I can't stand the boredom associated with NASCAR and all the oval racing series -- it is like WWF with cars neutralized to be so the same and banking that is so excessive that my grandmother could go left left left and the car technology is non-existant (circa 1960's).
The series I want to see:
F1
WRC
Champ Cars
IRL (if they do more road courses)
Speed World Challenge (GT and Touring)
V8 Supercars
All motorcycle racing
Rob.
The series I want to see:
F1
WRC
Champ Cars
IRL (if they do more road courses)
Speed World Challenge (GT and Touring)
V8 Supercars
All motorcycle racing
Rob.
| rautox | 11-22-2004 05:06 PM |
*dreamin'*
I want to see ProSolo. I'm not kidding. [list][*]Trim down the fields covered: SS, STX or ESP (joe viewer couldn't tell the difference, but might enjoy Sammy vs. Tom, particularly if there are interviews :) ), SM, B or CP, and AM. [*]Mimic the best of the NHRA, World Challenge coverage (between-run interviews and in-car multi camera coverage). [*]Toss in a well-spoken color commentator who has a relevant clue/opinion/perspective like KC (I wanna hear someone say, "whikkid retodded" after a spin :D ) along with the usual bobblehead. [*]Pay Despain's way and make sure he has a good-enough time to make it remarkable and worth return trips. [*]Cross-promote the hell out of it on GRM and Sports Car Revolution with project cars and background pieces. [/list]
...shake (never stir), and you'd have content every bit as good as the australian big block puddle dinghies, and/or all of the lesser-series' circle-track events currently cloggin' up the works.
*/dreamin*
My tivo's ready. :banana:
I want to see ProSolo. I'm not kidding. [list][*]Trim down the fields covered: SS, STX or ESP (joe viewer couldn't tell the difference, but might enjoy Sammy vs. Tom, particularly if there are interviews :) ), SM, B or CP, and AM. [*]Mimic the best of the NHRA, World Challenge coverage (between-run interviews and in-car multi camera coverage). [*]Toss in a well-spoken color commentator who has a relevant clue/opinion/perspective like KC (I wanna hear someone say, "whikkid retodded" after a spin :D ) along with the usual bobblehead. [*]Pay Despain's way and make sure he has a good-enough time to make it remarkable and worth return trips. [*]Cross-promote the hell out of it on GRM and Sports Car Revolution with project cars and background pieces. [/list]
...shake (never stir), and you'd have content every bit as good as the australian big block puddle dinghies, and/or all of the lesser-series' circle-track events currently cloggin' up the works.
*/dreamin*
My tivo's ready. :banana:
| w0rXer | 11-22-2004 05:08 PM |
European RallyCross, please. :)
| Subie Gal | 11-22-2004 05:33 PM |
anything other than more of this
[img]http://www.bustedtees.com/images/boringnascar.116.gallery_normal.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.bustedtees.com/images/boringnascar.116.gallery_normal.jpg[/img]
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 05:35 PM |
Whoops, the other thread had the poll
Oh well, regular tally will have to do
Oh well, regular tally will have to do
| Subie Gal | 11-22-2004 05:37 PM |
pm me what u want on the poll and i can add it.
cheers
Jamie
cheers
Jamie
| SubaruCO | 11-22-2004 05:43 PM |
Please include coverage of the JGTC.
We have a round on US soil this year and it's pretty big with the "tunerz" crowd so the money in advertising is there too.
We have a round on US soil this year and it's pretty big with the "tunerz" crowd so the money in advertising is there too.
| pio!pio! | 11-22-2004 05:50 PM |
Full JGTC races instead of recaps. Full DTM races instead of recaps. MotoGP qualifying or qually recap.
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 06:09 PM |
[QUOTE=Subie Gal]pm me what u want on the poll and i can add it.
cheers
Jamie[/QUOTE]
thanks! sent
cheers
Jamie[/QUOTE]
thanks! sent
| Subie Gal | 11-22-2004 06:32 PM |
pollage added :D
| Tensen | 11-22-2004 06:39 PM |
i'd like to see more of me, frankly :)
| 8Complex | 11-22-2004 06:45 PM |
Poll should be multiple choice... I can't decide between BTCC and JGTC. :(
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 06:45 PM |
I have a feeling this will become SCCA vs. Rally
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 06:48 PM |
[QUOTE=8Complex]Poll should be multiple choice... I can't decide between BTCC and JGTC. :([/QUOTE]
Well, from what Ive learned in Statistics courses (and I may be totally off on this) there should be only one answer allowed on somethign like this. So you have to vote for your very very very favorite ;) Sorrry
I'll be making a seperate tally for all the responses though, so don't worry!
Well, from what Ive learned in Statistics courses (and I may be totally off on this) there should be only one answer allowed on somethign like this. So you have to vote for your very very very favorite ;) Sorrry
I'll be making a seperate tally for all the responses though, so don't worry!
| Subie Gal | 11-22-2004 06:58 PM |
we can edit the poll to show who voted what :devil:
hehehe... okay.. we wont do that
hehehe... okay.. we wont do that
| speedyHAM | 11-22-2004 07:06 PM |
I voted for WRC coverage, and maybe off season replays of the regular coverage and I'l love to see more coverage of US rallies, like a full hour and maybe replay it a few times in case I miss it the 1 time they play it.
Realistically, I'd like to see more of every event listed in the poll.
Realistically, I'd like to see more of every event listed in the poll.
| qbbraveheart | 11-22-2004 07:10 PM |
SCCA, JGTC and Le Mans/ALMS
| Sevaru | 11-22-2004 07:19 PM |
JGTC has some of the best racing out there and coolest cars too.
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 07:22 PM |
[QUOTE=Subie Gal]we can edit the poll to show who voted what :devil:
hehehe... okay.. we wont do that[/QUOTE]
I confess, I voted JGTC :o
But only because SpeedTV already has plenty of Rally coverage...(if theres such a athign as "plenty of rally coverage", but I think you know what I mean)
hehehe... okay.. we wont do that[/QUOTE]
I confess, I voted JGTC :o
But only because SpeedTV already has plenty of Rally coverage...(if theres such a athign as "plenty of rally coverage", but I think you know what I mean)
| WRXMaster | 11-22-2004 07:23 PM |
More rally! :devil:
JGTC :rolleyes: They look really sloppy when they race "another thread on this a while ago" better drivers in BTCC... cool looking cars though
JGTC :rolleyes: They look really sloppy when they race "another thread on this a while ago" better drivers in BTCC... cool looking cars though
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 07:25 PM |
[QUOTE=speedyHAM]
Realistically, I'd like to see more of every event listed in the poll.[/QUOTE]
Well, if rally comes out the winner, we'll make another poll to "zero in" on exactly which rally series we want to conventrate on. I had this in mind, which is why I listed "WRC and other Rally" :D
Realistically, I'd like to see more of every event listed in the poll.[/QUOTE]
Well, if rally comes out the winner, we'll make another poll to "zero in" on exactly which rally series we want to conventrate on. I had this in mind, which is why I listed "WRC and other Rally" :D
| nate49509 | 11-22-2004 07:37 PM |
I would be happy to just to see Speed TV. My cable company dropped Speed a few years ago so I dropped them. :lol:
| GC84ever | 11-22-2004 07:56 PM |
Well everybody woud love to see more Rally on SpeedTV :D
But I would like to see series that we never see.
Like the JGTC, FIA GT, and other sports car racing.
It'll be cool if the covered series like the Ferrari Challenge, and other one make series.
But I would like to see series that we never see.
Like the JGTC, FIA GT, and other sports car racing.
It'll be cool if the covered series like the Ferrari Challenge, and other one make series.
| Lafora | 11-22-2004 09:04 PM |
More lower class of open wheels racing. Most notably F3 and top tier shifter kart races (super ICC in particular, or formula super A (non shifter i believe)..dunno if they still run that class)
but having karting world championship coverage would be awesome
but having karting world championship coverage would be awesome
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 09:08 PM |
[QUOTE=GC84ever]Well everybody woud love to see more Rally on SpeedTV :D
But I would like to see series that we never see.
[/QUOTE]
That's my reasoning. I love rally to death but I love motorsports too! :)
But I would like to see series that we never see.
[/QUOTE]
That's my reasoning. I love rally to death but I love motorsports too! :)
| abaxter34 | 11-22-2004 10:10 PM |
[COLOR=Red][SIZE=4]DRIFTING!!!!!!![/SIZE][/COLOR] j/k
id like to see scca (and whom ever will take over scca club rally) get more coverage. it would be really nice to see more money and attention focussed on struggling die hard american racers in all arenas.
id like to see scca (and whom ever will take over scca club rally) get more coverage. it would be really nice to see more money and attention focussed on struggling die hard american racers in all arenas.
| baileypicks24 | 11-22-2004 10:36 PM |
27 votes in, and rally is just 1 VOTE BEHIND!!!
This could go any way folks!!!
And don't forget about the SCCA just a couple votes behind!
:banana:
This could go any way folks!!!
And don't forget about the SCCA just a couple votes behind!
:banana:
| GarySheehan | 11-22-2004 10:46 PM |
Nice job, baileypicks24! I voted.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| GFimpreza | 11-22-2004 10:53 PM |
Although I love watching WRC and SCCA, I gotta say that Speed needs to start playing more British Touring car racing. The races I've seen have been incredibly competitive and exciting. There's no predicting who's going to win; they all have a good chance.
You can tell that those guys are all driving the snot out of the cars, and loving every second of it.
You can tell that those guys are all driving the snot out of the cars, and loving every second of it.
| Homemade WRX | 11-23-2004 12:20 AM |
I vote for anything other than nascar, WRC, BTCC, and SCCA have my votes
| V8VENOM | 11-23-2004 02:13 AM |
So nobody wants NASCAR, so why is SPEED pushing NASCRAP NASCRAP NASCRAP down our throats?? Cause it is 'Mercan?? Y'all. Pathetic racing yet is covers every aspect of American TV and consume just about all available sponsors.
Still just don't understand the draw of NASCAR -- side by side racing -- yeah I do that every day in rush hour traffic. It is such a useless event where passing is accomplished by the standard hit the left rear quater panel of the guy in front and move on by -- yawn-o-rama.
And all the cash whore NASCAR drivers -- in it for just one reason, money -- driver talent has long since left NASCAR.
Oh that's right -- NASCAR has lead changes, lots of them, to keep the weak minded entertained -- the fans that think they can go to your local dealer an pick up #3 special with 750+ HP (beer included).
NASCAR is the biggest crock and dupe job since since since watergate. I really don't know how NASCAR drivers can live with themselves -- cash whores with little or no interest in the real sport of racing.
Still just don't understand the draw of NASCAR -- side by side racing -- yeah I do that every day in rush hour traffic. It is such a useless event where passing is accomplished by the standard hit the left rear quater panel of the guy in front and move on by -- yawn-o-rama.
And all the cash whore NASCAR drivers -- in it for just one reason, money -- driver talent has long since left NASCAR.
Oh that's right -- NASCAR has lead changes, lots of them, to keep the weak minded entertained -- the fans that think they can go to your local dealer an pick up #3 special with 750+ HP (beer included).
NASCAR is the biggest crock and dupe job since since since watergate. I really don't know how NASCAR drivers can live with themselves -- cash whores with little or no interest in the real sport of racing.
| GC84ever | 11-23-2004 03:05 AM |
I guess you can say NASCRAP is the motorsport version of American football.
Only americans watch it
The track is in a stadium; so that, every fan can see the action.
There are lots of hits/crashes
Only americans watch it
The track is in a stadium; so that, every fan can see the action.
There are lots of hits/crashes
| srf | 11-23-2004 09:56 AM |
How about more "old" races, like F1 Decade, except the entire race. They need "Speed Classic".
| ITWRX4ME | 11-23-2004 10:32 AM |
In addition to more WRC, I'd like to see more Touring Car races.
I'd also like to hear more commentary of a technical nature. Most of it is way too dumbed down. I want more slow motion replays with Madden-like analysis of racing maneuvers.
"Watch here how this guy times his overtaking perfectly coming into the corner. See the nose drop on this car? That's when he hit his brakes. Now watch this guy. He comes in right underneath him and doesn't hit the brakes until riiiiight here. Boom!" :lol:
I'd also like to hear more commentary of a technical nature. Most of it is way too dumbed down. I want more slow motion replays with Madden-like analysis of racing maneuvers.
"Watch here how this guy times his overtaking perfectly coming into the corner. See the nose drop on this car? That's when he hit his brakes. Now watch this guy. He comes in right underneath him and doesn't hit the brakes until riiiiight here. Boom!" :lol:
| baileypicks24 | 11-23-2004 11:29 AM |
Wow, 56 votes, and it seems as if Rally might come out the winner, and SCCA is almost in the #2 spot.
We'll let this poll go for a couple more days just so everyone can vote, and we'll move on from there.
Anybody think we should do a similar poll in the "General" forum, or perhaps a link to this poll?? :confused:
We'll let this poll go for a couple more days just so everyone can vote, and we'll move on from there.
Anybody think we should do a similar poll in the "General" forum, or perhaps a link to this poll?? :confused:
| baileypicks24 | 11-23-2004 11:34 AM |
[QUOTE=ITWRX4ME]In addition to more WRC, I'd like to see more Touring Car races.
[/QUOTE]
I agree. I want to see a "diversification" of Speed TV. Nonetheless, nothing wrong with more Rally...but we'll see how the poll comes out.
[/QUOTE]
I agree. I want to see a "diversification" of Speed TV. Nonetheless, nothing wrong with more Rally...but we'll see how the poll comes out.
| 8Complex | 11-23-2004 11:53 AM |
I didn't vote for SCCA because that it too general... their touring series is kinda cool, but not nearly as cool as BTCC. JGTC is cool, but it is too far out there. BTCC is just the only one that is nearly a realistic series vehicle-wise while still having good action and showing fun courses.
You people have to face it that Nascar is a series for the "lazy American" where you can sit in one place, not miss any of the action, and when there IS action, it's BIG and DESTRUCTIVE and FUN. IMO, it's a glorified demolition derby with more advertising then 10 porn web sites.
You people have to face it that Nascar is a series for the "lazy American" where you can sit in one place, not miss any of the action, and when there IS action, it's BIG and DESTRUCTIVE and FUN. IMO, it's a glorified demolition derby with more advertising then 10 porn web sites.
| baileypicks24 | 11-23-2004 12:33 PM |
[QUOTE=8Complex]I didn't vote for SCCA because that it too general... [/QUOTE]
Well, if SCCA came out on top, the plan was to create a second poll to "zero in" on exactlyh which SCCA series to focus on, because indeed, SCCA is everythign from rally, to autox, to time trials, to track racing.
Well, if SCCA came out on top, the plan was to create a second poll to "zero in" on exactlyh which SCCA series to focus on, because indeed, SCCA is everythign from rally, to autox, to time trials, to track racing.
| baileypicks24 | 11-23-2004 12:33 PM |
[QUOTE=GarySheehan]Nice job, baileypicks24! I voted.
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url][/QUOTE]
thanks! Its all your idea :)
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url][/QUOTE]
thanks! Its all your idea :)
| ratt_finkel | 11-23-2004 12:48 PM |
Anything but Nascar.
| GravelRash | 11-23-2004 04:46 PM |
I had to go with Rally...never get too much Rally :D Actually the coverage is quite good now - as long as you manage to catch it's very limited window of availability!
They even show F1 races 3 times the same day, which I like, but there's no consistency to additional rally coverage, and finding a replay of a (late lamented) SCCA rally is about as likely as finding a monogamous porn star...
I keep a tape library of WRC and US rally (only) so you can see where my priorities are; I also watch: (roughly in order)[list][*]Rally: WRC, US[*]Speed Touring/GT[*]MotoGP[*]WSB[*]F1[*]Vintage/Historics racing...(depending on venue and content)[*]Champ Car - road courses only, if/when I can find one to watch[*]Goodwood! :banana: this low on the list solely because it's only once a year[*]various other Speed content; I've gotten so I quite like Alain deCadenet's discussions and demos of classic marques. I think I'd rather like his job :lol: [/list]
They even show F1 races 3 times the same day, which I like, but there's no consistency to additional rally coverage, and finding a replay of a (late lamented) SCCA rally is about as likely as finding a monogamous porn star...
I keep a tape library of WRC and US rally (only) so you can see where my priorities are; I also watch: (roughly in order)[list][*]Rally: WRC, US[*]Speed Touring/GT[*]MotoGP[*]WSB[*]F1[*]Vintage/Historics racing...(depending on venue and content)[*]Champ Car - road courses only, if/when I can find one to watch[*]Goodwood! :banana: this low on the list solely because it's only once a year[*]various other Speed content; I've gotten so I quite like Alain deCadenet's discussions and demos of classic marques. I think I'd rather like his job :lol: [/list]
| baileypicks24 | 11-23-2004 06:01 PM |
What a surprise...a Subaru Impreza forum chooses Rally
:lol:
:lol:
| gtguy | 11-23-2004 06:35 PM |
More WRC. The three-hour shows that they did for one, glorious year, were a delight, even through the repeated segments and sloppy editing.
Kevin
Kevin
| abaxter34 | 11-23-2004 08:17 PM |
it would be cool to see a wrc decade type of program, only have it go back farther than 10 years. the old "Legends" show sort went along the lines of showing old archived rally footage but the editing and commentating/narrating was horrible.
| Rallycarperson | 11-23-2004 08:44 PM |
Too much NASCAR! Totally NASCAR, Speed News NASCAR edition, Trackside, pre/race coverage.....:furious:
More Rally, rally, rally! And please change time for the SCCA ProRally. Early afternoons are just a bad time for me.
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
More Rally, rally, rally! And please change time for the SCCA ProRally. Early afternoons are just a bad time for me.
-Mark
MAPmotors.com
| ExitVisa | 11-23-2004 09:01 PM |
I'd like to see the old WRC rallys too. When I was stationed in Italy they'd show the rallys (not just WRC) and wouldn't edit out the parts where spectators got plowed by cars going off course.
Okay all you English majors - is the proper usage rallys, or rallies? :)
Okay all you English majors - is the proper usage rallys, or rallies? :)
| gtguy | 11-23-2004 10:37 PM |
[QUOTE=dcargile]Okay all you English majors - is the proper usage rallys, or rallies? :)[/QUOTE]
...ies
Kevin
...ies
Kevin
| mw1029h | 11-23-2004 11:12 PM |
[QUOTE=GFimpreza]Although I love watching WRC and SCCA, I gotta say that Speed needs to start playing more British Touring car racing. The races I've seen have been incredibly competitive and exciting. There's no predicting who's going to win; they all have a good chance.
You can tell that those guys are all driving the snot out of the cars, and loving every second of it.[/QUOTE] It was really good years ago when they had the following : Ford, Honda, Renault, Peugeot, Nissan, Volvo, Vauxhall, Audi. I think that was 2000. That was the great years it's actually pretty weak now. The DTM the European Touring cars are good now. But some of the 24hr races like the Nurburgring & Spa are cool to watch. Speed does show them sometimes. Hey Gary S. they don't give your series any air time that isn't right. 1/2 hr would be nice. since the cars are pretty popular. I watched your clips it looked cool. So I ordered it haven't seen yet.
You can tell that those guys are all driving the snot out of the cars, and loving every second of it.[/QUOTE] It was really good years ago when they had the following : Ford, Honda, Renault, Peugeot, Nissan, Volvo, Vauxhall, Audi. I think that was 2000. That was the great years it's actually pretty weak now. The DTM the European Touring cars are good now. But some of the 24hr races like the Nurburgring & Spa are cool to watch. Speed does show them sometimes. Hey Gary S. they don't give your series any air time that isn't right. 1/2 hr would be nice. since the cars are pretty popular. I watched your clips it looked cool. So I ordered it haven't seen yet.
| mw1029h | 11-23-2004 11:16 PM |
Word challenge and SCCA runoffs get plenty of air time IMOP. Don't we get all the Challenge race, some are even live.
| baileypicks24 | 11-23-2004 11:21 PM |
I've got 99 votes but JGTC ain't one...
HIT MEH
HIT MEH
| heffergm | 11-24-2004 09:35 AM |
Anything besides NASCRAP.
| abaxter34 | 11-24-2004 11:23 AM |
id like to see meguiars car crazy go away. why is it the people that seem to be on that show think that wanting to polish your car every weekend makes you a "car guy"? imo those people arent car crazy, theyre obsessive compulsive.
| mw1029h | 11-24-2004 02:32 PM |
[QUOTE=abaxter34]id like to see meguiars car crazy go away. why is it the people that seem to be on that show think that wanting to polish your car every weekend makes you a "car guy"? imo those people arent car crazy, theyre obsessive compulsive.[/QUOTE] I agree that show sucks.
| V8VENOM | 11-24-2004 02:46 PM |
As far as I'm concerned, NASCAR (the reality show) is on the same intellectual lines as:
[url]http://www.tbs.com/shows/therealgilligansisland[/url]
What has become of American TV?? So so sad.
[url]http://www.tbs.com/shows/therealgilligansisland[/url]
What has become of American TV?? So so sad.
| baileypicks24 | 12-01-2004 07:55 PM |
bump
Mr. Gary Sheehan, I seek your guidance. You have a PM ;)
Mr. Gary Sheehan, I seek your guidance. You have a PM ;)
| mclmk8d | 12-02-2004 02:00 PM |
ALMS and LeMans as well as other road and endurance races(FIA GT, BTCC, Australian V8, and perhaps more vintage racing...SVRA)
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