| h_p | 10-08-2006 07:10 PM |
anyone know where to get these kind of stands????
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[URL="http://swrt.com/img_gallery/820632021.jpg"]http://swrt.com/img_gallery/820632021.jpg[/URL]
just like these or other ones that rais the car way up thanks
just like these or other ones that rais the car way up thanks
| hornyturbo | 10-08-2006 07:38 PM |
cusco makes them u can also fab ur own
| bjorn240 | 10-08-2006 07:52 PM |
The ones we use are custom fabricated by the team.
- Christian
Subaru Rally Team USA
- Christian
Subaru Rally Team USA
| gregr01 | 10-08-2006 08:00 PM |
[URL="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34924"]Harbor Freight[/URL] has a set of 12-ton stands with a maximum lift of 30.125" -- higher than the stands in your photo. They sell for $80/pair. I was going to recommend a set of similar Snap-On stands that I have but they cost $170/pair, so HF is the way to go. :banana:
You'll probably need a jack with extra-height capacity, or do it in steps using a block with the jack.
[IMG]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/34900-34999/34924.gif[/IMG]
You'll probably need a jack with extra-height capacity, or do it in steps using a block with the jack.
[IMG]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/34900-34999/34924.gif[/IMG]
| h_p | 10-08-2006 08:33 PM |
hey thanks for the fast replys
| WJM | 10-08-2006 08:34 PM |
Now to find a JACK that goes that high and doesnt weigh in at 2 tons...:lol:
| fliz | 10-08-2006 08:43 PM |
The jacks that 199 use are nice...They've got 2-3 foot arms, and look to be aluminum...of course they probably cost almost as much as my car.
| mykrrrr | 10-09-2006 06:40 AM |
I didn't look @ the SWRT pic but I'm assuming their pin jacks. Remember you have to cut holes into your side sills and weld in a tube for the jacks to go into...not really desirable feature for resale. :lol:
I guess you could cover them up with side skirts. :p
The jacks we used @ Autosport were suuuuuper heavy. Lugging those in and out of the service truck sucked. They did help us get a 55 gal drum of race fuel into the back though... :lol:
I guess you could cover them up with side skirts. :p
The jacks we used @ Autosport were suuuuuper heavy. Lugging those in and out of the service truck sucked. They did help us get a 55 gal drum of race fuel into the back though... :lol:
| RaceComp Engineering | 10-09-2006 06:47 AM |
We use these al the time in the shop. They go high and are a complete step up from the standard units the world uses. So these bridge the gap between the "Sears" type and the Rally type.
[IMG]http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/jacks/3000NFP.jpg[/IMG]
Ours have a triangulated brace around the base too.
Myles
[IMG]http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/jacks/3000NFP.jpg[/IMG]
Ours have a triangulated brace around the base too.
Myles
| IT Swift | 10-09-2006 07:17 AM |
[quote=fliz;15538218]The jacks that 199 use are nice...They've got 2-3 foot arms, and look to be aluminum...of course they probably cost almost as much as my car.[/quote]
They're AC jacks (same brand as the stands shown above). They are NOT aluminum, but not all that heavy for a steel jack, either.
They're AC jacks (same brand as the stands shown above). They are NOT aluminum, but not all that heavy for a steel jack, either.
| williaty | 10-14-2006 12:53 AM |
[QUOTE=RaceComp Engineering;15541778]We use these al the time in the shop. They go high and are a complete step up from the standard units the world uses. So these bridge the gap between the "Sears" type and the Rally type.
[IMG]http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/jacks/3000NFP.jpg[/IMG]
Ours have a triangulated brace around the base too.
Myles[/QUOTE]
OOOO! /me lusts. Where did that picture come from and where do I buy them?
On Edit: OK, I backsurfed the picture URL and found [URL="http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1_pg5.htm"]these[/URL]. Damn those are pricey, but they'd be so easy to use!
[IMG]http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/jacks/3000NFP.jpg[/IMG]
Ours have a triangulated brace around the base too.
Myles[/QUOTE]
OOOO! /me lusts. Where did that picture come from and where do I buy them?
On Edit: OK, I backsurfed the picture URL and found [URL="http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1_pg5.htm"]these[/URL]. Damn those are pricey, but they'd be so easy to use!
| semaj | 10-14-2006 01:11 AM |
Those AC ones are cool...pricey, but cool.
| RaceComp Engineering | 10-14-2006 01:24 AM |
We have found these to be very secure under all situations. Even more so than the 4 legged sears/craftsmen type. THe rubber pads keep the Porsche and Ferrari, Lotus "types" happy from thinking it will scratch the bottom of the car and they do have more of a "rally" style to them in some sense.....kinda...i guess.
Myles
Myles
| RB5 Clone | 10-14-2006 09:43 AM |
+12345 for the AC stands
we modded a set with pin type tops that plug into receivers in rocker panels.
VERY nice to be able to adjust height, esp for rough uneven service areas.
Dave G
we modded a set with pin type tops that plug into receivers in rocker panels.
VERY nice to be able to adjust height, esp for rough uneven service areas.
Dave G
| M | 10-14-2006 09:47 AM |
If you can weld and have a vice you can easily make your own AC stands for a hell of a lot less money. And if you think that they might fail, well then you can't weld...
| h_p | 10-14-2006 12:45 PM |
ya those are nice
| pieces | 10-14-2006 01:21 PM |
[QUOTE=RaceComp Engineering;15541778]We use these al the time in the shop. They go high and are a complete step up from the standard units the world uses. So these bridge the gap between the "Sears" type and the Rally type.
[IMG]http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/jacks/3000NFP.jpg[/IMG]
Ours have a triangulated brace around the base too.
Myles[/QUOTE]
The picture looks like you can put those into the body rib (similar to how you would jack with a spare tire jack). Is that true?
I've always thought that would be handy. Jacks at the farthest corners of the car for stability and also out of your way for transmison work or whatever.
[IMG]http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/jacks/3000NFP.jpg[/IMG]
Ours have a triangulated brace around the base too.
Myles[/QUOTE]
The picture looks like you can put those into the body rib (similar to how you would jack with a spare tire jack). Is that true?
I've always thought that would be handy. Jacks at the farthest corners of the car for stability and also out of your way for transmison work or whatever.
| patr | 10-17-2006 04:16 PM |
ac also makes pin stands... ac jacks are the best to get the car up high. But make your own stnads, or you can also buy them. We make them for our customers who do builds, just for the simple fact that we want to work on the car with pin stands. Its not as simple as just cutting a hole and putting a tube in, if you want it to last.
| davis10 | 10-17-2006 05:18 PM |
I think you would need to modify your fram in some way to use the stands that the factory teams do
| M | 10-17-2006 05:39 PM |
[QUOTE=patr;15647404]ac also makes pin stands... ac jacks are the best to get the car up high. But make your own stnads, or you can also buy them. We make them for our customers who do builds, just for the simple fact that we want to work on the car with pin stands. Its not as simple as just cutting a hole and putting a tube in, if you want it to last.[/QUOTE]
It's definately that simple. Those things have no amazing design behind them. You buy Tube X and buy Tube Y that has an O.D. that closely matches Tube X's I.D. Drill holes buy pins and weld to rectangular tube.
A.C. jack knockoffs have now been fabricated.
It's definately that simple. Those things have no amazing design behind them. You buy Tube X and buy Tube Y that has an O.D. that closely matches Tube X's I.D. Drill holes buy pins and weld to rectangular tube.
A.C. jack knockoffs have now been fabricated.
| fliz | 10-17-2006 05:40 PM |
[QUOTE=patr;15647404]ac also makes pin stands... ac jacks are the best to get the car up high. But make your own stnads, or you can also buy them. We make them for our customers who do builds, just for the simple fact that we want to work on the car with pin stands. Its not as simple as just cutting a hole and putting a tube in, if you want it to last.[/QUOTE]
If you don't mind sharing, what is involved in adding pinholes to a car?
I know for the stands I've seen people weld tubes to the top of normal stands, and that seems to be pretty sturdy.
If you don't mind sharing, what is involved in adding pinholes to a car?
I know for the stands I've seen people weld tubes to the top of normal stands, and that seems to be pretty sturdy.
| mykrrrr | 10-17-2006 09:40 PM |
When I build/prep my own rally car, that's one thing that I will be doing. It's so much more sturdy than normal jackstands. It was almost nice spanner checking cars like that. :lol:
| GrantC | 10-18-2006 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=fliz;15648611]If you don't mind sharing, what is involved in adding pinholes to a car?
I know for the stands I've seen people weld tubes to the top of normal stands, and that seems to be pretty sturdy.[/QUOTE]
Looks like a tube of the right ID welded to some reinforcement around it, and then welded to the rocker panel.
[IMG]http://rally.subaru.com/images/building/b9.jpg[/IMG]
I know for the stands I've seen people weld tubes to the top of normal stands, and that seems to be pretty sturdy.[/QUOTE]
Looks like a tube of the right ID welded to some reinforcement around it, and then welded to the rocker panel.
[IMG]http://rally.subaru.com/images/building/b9.jpg[/IMG]
| patr | 10-18-2006 02:41 PM |
[quote=M;15648597]It's definately that simple. Those things have no amazing design behind them. You buy Tube X and buy Tube Y that has an O.D. that closely matches Tube X's I.D. Drill holes buy pins and weld to rectangular tube.
A.C. jack knockoffs have now been fabricated.[/quote]
I think you are misunderstanding. What I said was the holes were not that simple. I've seen DOZENS of improperly fabricated pin stand holes that sag, bend, leak, etc. etc. but whatever, what would I know. The stands are easy to make.
A.C. jack knockoffs have now been fabricated.[/quote]
I think you are misunderstanding. What I said was the holes were not that simple. I've seen DOZENS of improperly fabricated pin stand holes that sag, bend, leak, etc. etc. but whatever, what would I know. The stands are easy to make.
| M | 10-18-2006 04:09 PM |
I did misunderstand what you were speaking of. But the Pin stand holes can be made easily by any race prep shop worth their salt.
| Geek Guy | 10-18-2006 05:59 PM |
The problem is that the sill material at the base there is very thin. It's quite easy to blow through the material if you're welding, and the material is old...
Take your time, it can be done. Reinforce the outside, as seen above, and the inside,
Take your time, it can be done. Reinforce the outside, as seen above, and the inside,
| JoshP | 10-19-2006 01:51 PM |
most rally teams use a jack stand with a piece welded onto it.
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