| Pacobeagle | 05-07-2005 05:37 PM |
SCCA Autocrossers please post your opinions....
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I currently run my WRX in SM at the local auto-x and well, since I like it so much I'd like to purchase a spare set of wheels and track only tires. What do you guys recommend as far as a decent wheel and tire combo? Let's just say that there is a cap on $$ to be spent, be it $1500-2000. Let's here what you have to say.
Thanks to all that reply.
Jose
BTW, here's my mods list.
USDM sti shortblock
Oem WRX heads with USDM cams
VF22
Utec
Sti pink injectors
APS DR650 FMIC
Walbro 255lph pump
Up-pipe and downpipe
Hotchkis street swaybar set
Kartboy rear endlinks
4-pots and 2-pots
'04 Sti struts and Tein S-techs
PowerSlot Plus rotor kit for front
Sti-Ra gearset
Exedy stage-I clutch
Rota Action (17") wrapped in Azenis Sports
Thanks to all that reply.
Jose
BTW, here's my mods list.
USDM sti shortblock
Oem WRX heads with USDM cams
VF22
Utec
Sti pink injectors
APS DR650 FMIC
Walbro 255lph pump
Up-pipe and downpipe
Hotchkis street swaybar set
Kartboy rear endlinks
4-pots and 2-pots
'04 Sti struts and Tein S-techs
PowerSlot Plus rotor kit for front
Sti-Ra gearset
Exedy stage-I clutch
Rota Action (17") wrapped in Azenis Sports
| omahasubaru | 05-07-2005 06:01 PM |
On the cheap...
17x8.5" or 16x8" rotas with some Kumho V710's.
17x8.5" or 16x8" rotas with some Kumho V710's.
| Weemus | 05-07-2005 06:29 PM |
And buy a cheap e-bay H brace. It helps maintain your alignment under side loading.
| MattNJ2.8 | 05-07-2005 07:43 PM |
New set of Hoosiers; find yourself a cheap set of 16x8 Rotas or similar brand.
| deuce.five | 05-07-2005 09:55 PM |
Be careful with Rotas and R-compounds, I've heard bad things....I would only run forged wheels with R-compounds. Do a search, I read about it here....
| KCRex | 05-07-2005 10:08 PM |
I am in a similar situation. From a very good source I was advised to get 17x8 (rota's were mentioned); a minimum tire width of 225. I'm going with street/summer tires though, no R's or slicks
| dwx | 05-07-2005 10:27 PM |
[QUOTE=Weemus]And buy a cheap e-bay H brace. It helps maintain your alignment under side loading.[/QUOTE]
Also is not legal for SM.
Get a set of 16x8 Rotas and a set of 245/45/16 Hoosiers or Kuhmo 710s.
Also is not legal for SM.
Get a set of 16x8 Rotas and a set of 245/45/16 Hoosiers or Kuhmo 710s.
| Pacobeagle | 05-07-2005 10:28 PM |
Due to my front rotor size(13.4") I'm forced to stick with 17" wheels. Not a bad thing, but I'm guessing then to be on the competitive side I'd go with a set of say.....
Rota Slipstreams in a 17 X 8.5 and go with a 235 or 245 wide 40 series Kuhmo V700's. Again, I am using USDM Sti struts and Tein S-tech springs. I'm hoping that they won't rub.
Rota Slipstreams in a 17 X 8.5 and go with a 235 or 245 wide 40 series Kuhmo V700's. Again, I am using USDM Sti struts and Tein S-tech springs. I'm hoping that they won't rub.
| Jaxx | 05-07-2005 10:28 PM |
16x8 rotas or
16x7 98-01 RS rims
for your first year on R-compound - shaved RA1s
edit or use what ever tires you have and get some real suspension
16x7 98-01 RS rims
for your first year on R-compound - shaved RA1s
edit or use what ever tires you have and get some real suspension
| cooleyjb | 05-07-2005 10:44 PM |
[QUOTE=deuce.five]Be careful with Rotas and R-compounds, I've heard bad things....I would only run forged wheels with R-compounds. Do a search, I read about it here....[/QUOTE]
Rotas are just fine with R-compounds.
Many top WRX racers use them.
Gary Sheehan used them on his USTCC car now run by Brian Lock.
Many of the top STX guys use or have used Rotas. Sure they aren't on R compounds but they are still putting the car through it's motion.
One Lap STi driven by Luke Russell had Rotas.
The list can go on.
There is not a single wheel company out there that hasn't had some issues with their wheels.
Rotas are just fine with R-compounds.
Many top WRX racers use them.
Gary Sheehan used them on his USTCC car now run by Brian Lock.
Many of the top STX guys use or have used Rotas. Sure they aren't on R compounds but they are still putting the car through it's motion.
One Lap STi driven by Luke Russell had Rotas.
The list can go on.
There is not a single wheel company out there that hasn't had some issues with their wheels.
| Pacobeagle | 05-07-2005 10:51 PM |
Jaxx, what do you mean by "Real" suspension? I have placed in the top three at my local events just fine with my current setup. I just want to be more competitive and see how far I can go.
| speedyHAM | 05-07-2005 11:11 PM |
Kosei K-1's in a 16" by 8.5" and some Kuhmo 710's, say 225/50R16. Awesome pair. Light and very grippy.
If you are running top 3 at you local events in SM with street tires either- your local area isn't very competitive, or you are one hell of a driver. Probably a little of each I'm guessing.
If you are running top 3 at you local events in SM with street tires either- your local area isn't very competitive, or you are one hell of a driver. Probably a little of each I'm guessing.
| AndyRoo | 05-07-2005 11:34 PM |
[QUOTE=Pacobeagle1]Jaxx, what do you mean by "Real" suspension? I have placed in the top three at my local events just fine with my current setup. I just want to be more competitive and see how far I can go.[/QUOTE]
You would probably do even better by using a different spring. Search the suspension and brakes forum and you're sure to find the thorough and extreme bashing that the tein s-techs get :).
Anyway, 2 grand is plenty to get a nice set of light wheels, with some money left over to get some new springs.
- andrew
You would probably do even better by using a different spring. Search the suspension and brakes forum and you're sure to find the thorough and extreme bashing that the tein s-techs get :).
Anyway, 2 grand is plenty to get a nice set of light wheels, with some money left over to get some new springs.
- andrew
| makofoto | 05-08-2005 02:00 AM |
8.5" X 17 Rota Slipstreams & 245/40/17 Hoosier S-05's ...
[IMG]http://images9.fotki.com/v165/photos/4/43793/1961534/MakoSatUpHill-vi.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a photo of the National Championship winning SM car ... 335 (315?) Kuhmo 710's, about 400+ hp, around 2700 (2800?) lbs, 50/50 weight distribution: :(
[IMG]http://images9.fotki.com/v172/photos/4/43793/2140986/VicSiasSMwinner-vi.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images9.fotki.com/v165/photos/4/43793/1961534/MakoSatUpHill-vi.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a photo of the National Championship winning SM car ... 335 (315?) Kuhmo 710's, about 400+ hp, around 2700 (2800?) lbs, 50/50 weight distribution: :(
[IMG]http://images9.fotki.com/v172/photos/4/43793/2140986/VicSiasSMwinner-vi.jpg[/IMG]
| mykrrrr | 05-08-2005 05:50 AM |
[QUOTE=makofoto]
[IMG]http://images9.fotki.com/v172/photos/4/43793/2140986/VicSiasSMwinner-vi.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I bet that 'BMW' is just that frEscort that Pimp My Ride did last season... :lol: :p
-mykr.
[IMG]http://images9.fotki.com/v172/photos/4/43793/2140986/VicSiasSMwinner-vi.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I bet that 'BMW' is just that frEscort that Pimp My Ride did last season... :lol: :p
-mykr.
| Pacobeagle | 05-08-2005 07:41 AM |
I have been considering a set of the Sti Tarmac springs. Just haven't heard enough about them.
| Pacobeagle | 05-08-2005 07:43 AM |
SpeedyHam, I'm not sure about my driving as I've never been critiqued about it. But with the PAX index I placed 25th out of 175 cars overall. Check out the results at [url]www.autox.carlc.com[/url]. Look me up, Jose Martinez #84 subaru wrx sedan in SM.
| Slatt | 05-08-2005 03:37 PM |
For comparison...
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[QUOTE=makofoto]8.5" X 17 Rota Slipstreams & 245/40/17 Hoosier S-05's ...
[img]http://images9.fotki.com/v165/photos/4/43793/1961534/MakoSatUpHill-vi.jpg[/img]
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Or if you have a sedan and a $2600 budget, 8.5" X 17 +48 SSR Competitions & 245/40/17 Hoosier S-05's ...
[img]http://home.gci.net/%7Ecowdookey/dsc_3796.jpg[/img]
Clearance may depend on your strut. I have AGX and get a faint rub line on the rear strut. Statically, the clearance measures 0.1".
[img]http://images9.fotki.com/v165/photos/4/43793/1961534/MakoSatUpHill-vi.jpg[/img]
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Or if you have a sedan and a $2600 budget, 8.5" X 17 +48 SSR Competitions & 245/40/17 Hoosier S-05's ...
[img]http://home.gci.net/%7Ecowdookey/dsc_3796.jpg[/img]
Clearance may depend on your strut. I have AGX and get a faint rub line on the rear strut. Statically, the clearance measures 0.1".
| Scoobie Doogie | 05-08-2005 09:03 PM |
[QUOTE=Pacobeagle1]SpeedyHam, I'm not sure about my driving as I've never been critiqued about it. But with the PAX index I placed 25th out of 175 cars overall. Check out the results at [url]www.autox.carlc.com[/url]. Look me up, Jose Martinez #84 subaru wrx sedan in SM.[/QUOTE]
Well; until you run against some of the faster guys on NASIOC there is no way of us knowing how you are as a driver for sure. The fact that you are inquiring is a statement that you are serious and most likely a decent driver locally. Get to a divisional or something of that nature and it should give you a gauge of where you rank regionally. To be noticed you'll really need to place in the top 10 PAX of 200+ drivers or top 5 if lower than 150 drivers depending upon the number of hotshoes in your region. I will say you are doing well in SM for only being on street tires though so kudos to you!
I think you'd do well to go with the tarmac springs with Koni inserts or H&R springs with the Koni's. There are several really good guys on here for setup regarding spring/strut combo's. If you can use the Kumho v710's in the widest size you can. 245's would be great for you on 17x8 or 17x8.5. You will drop about 1-2 seconds depending on your driving style. It will take you 3-4 events to get used to the grip they generate. You are on the right track for sure. Just hang out here and get to know Tom Hoppe, KC, Corey Ridgick, Joel and some others. Oh and that Mako-dude, he's pretty good to. :banana:
OH----get to an Evo school too. The best mod you can do.
Dave Mac
Well; until you run against some of the faster guys on NASIOC there is no way of us knowing how you are as a driver for sure. The fact that you are inquiring is a statement that you are serious and most likely a decent driver locally. Get to a divisional or something of that nature and it should give you a gauge of where you rank regionally. To be noticed you'll really need to place in the top 10 PAX of 200+ drivers or top 5 if lower than 150 drivers depending upon the number of hotshoes in your region. I will say you are doing well in SM for only being on street tires though so kudos to you!
I think you'd do well to go with the tarmac springs with Koni inserts or H&R springs with the Koni's. There are several really good guys on here for setup regarding spring/strut combo's. If you can use the Kumho v710's in the widest size you can. 245's would be great for you on 17x8 or 17x8.5. You will drop about 1-2 seconds depending on your driving style. It will take you 3-4 events to get used to the grip they generate. You are on the right track for sure. Just hang out here and get to know Tom Hoppe, KC, Corey Ridgick, Joel and some others. Oh and that Mako-dude, he's pretty good to. :banana:
OH----get to an Evo school too. The best mod you can do.
Dave Mac
| WRX_Mundi | 05-08-2005 09:40 PM |
[QUOTE=makofoto] [...photo...] Here's a photo of the National Championship winning SM car ... 335 (315?) Kuhmo 710's, about 400+ hp, around 2700 (2800?) lbs, 50/50 weight distribution: :([/quote]Here's a better photo from last year at Wendover:
[img]http://www.pbase.com/dana/image/39074792/original.jpg[/img]
I admit his tires were massive. But the top ESP Camaros run the same 315 V710's front and 335 V710's rear. Last I heard in January this year, Vic claimed his car was 2610 pounds, 303 wheel hp. I assume he's still pretty close to the 50/50 weight balance. Bob Tunnell posted something about him having closer to 350 whp last year, but I would think Mr. Sias knows his own car. I notice that his web site indicates 275's front and 315's rear, but I bet he changes to match the surface (it was really hot at Wendover, it's massively sticky concrete, and it was a 4-runs-in-a-row ProSolo, so bigger tires were a big plus). Some people don't like the look of his flares, but I think they look fabulous.
In comparison, I think an STi or Evo would have a hard time getting much below 2900 pounds, could not get a 50/50 weight balance, but could get more power (though worse response unless one tuned with anti-lag).
I did 12 practice starts at Wendover with my ESP STi (stock ECU, pump gas, just a TBE and 225/45-17 A3S04's). 11 of them resulted in either never seeing the car next to me or blowing by him. 1 of them was against Vic's car. :huh: He was so much faster than me it wasn't funny. Power to weight ratio about 1.5x better and so much grip that the AWD's had almost no advantage at launch.
[img]http://www.pbase.com/dana/image/39074792/original.jpg[/img]
I admit his tires were massive. But the top ESP Camaros run the same 315 V710's front and 335 V710's rear. Last I heard in January this year, Vic claimed his car was 2610 pounds, 303 wheel hp. I assume he's still pretty close to the 50/50 weight balance. Bob Tunnell posted something about him having closer to 350 whp last year, but I would think Mr. Sias knows his own car. I notice that his web site indicates 275's front and 315's rear, but I bet he changes to match the surface (it was really hot at Wendover, it's massively sticky concrete, and it was a 4-runs-in-a-row ProSolo, so bigger tires were a big plus). Some people don't like the look of his flares, but I think they look fabulous.
In comparison, I think an STi or Evo would have a hard time getting much below 2900 pounds, could not get a 50/50 weight balance, but could get more power (though worse response unless one tuned with anti-lag).
I did 12 practice starts at Wendover with my ESP STi (stock ECU, pump gas, just a TBE and 225/45-17 A3S04's). 11 of them resulted in either never seeing the car next to me or blowing by him. 1 of them was against Vic's car. :huh: He was so much faster than me it wasn't funny. Power to weight ratio about 1.5x better and so much grip that the AWD's had almost no advantage at launch.
| Apex Rex | 05-08-2005 09:55 PM |
Vic Sias is also THE guy in the BMW community for TEC III tuning. Only he knows what his car is really making, and he can tune it for any temp, location, etc. I would imagine.
It will be interesting to see some very well driven and prepped STi's and Evo's run in SM. Good enough to de-throne the M3s in SM? Have to wait and see.
It will be interesting to see some very well driven and prepped STi's and Evo's run in SM. Good enough to de-throne the M3s in SM? Have to wait and see.
| WRX_Mundi | 05-08-2005 10:46 PM |
[QUOTE=Scoobie Doogie]Well; until you run against some of the faster guys on NASIOC there is no way of us knowing how you are as a driver for sure.[/quote]That's definitely true. Regions differ a lot -- I have gone to one where I was painfully faster than the locals, and one where I'm usually in the top 10. In my local two regions I got 1st and 3rd in year-end overall PAX. But I went to a national event and, as I fully expected, got my a** handed to me on a platter (3.5s behind the class leader, 1.7s behind Navid's Evo on a 75s aggregate). 77/195 in PAX overall so it wasn't bad, but nothing exciting. Part of it is that my car is woefully underprepped for national driving -- 17x8.5 wheels with 225/45-17 A3S04's just don't cut it at that level in ESP, nor stock ECU, nor 200 pounds heavier than the top Evo's. But part of it is driver in all honesty. There's a massive difference in competition and preparation level between most local events and national events. I go from beating shifter karts in raw time to 8th in [i]class[/i].
Huge plus for the Evo school's. At least do phase 1. Driver is the biggest factor, with tires next.
If you can get a good set of wide 16" wheels with an R-compound that fit, that would be great. I've only done research on 17" wheels since my rotors are too big for 16s. 16's would likely be cheaper and perhaps better gearing.
For local events, a set of 17x8.5 SSR Competitions would be a good size and very light without being really expensive. Rota has a number of options that are less than half the price though a bit heavier and I think only one option in 8.5 width. No problems with Rota's and R compounds. SSR's will run about $1700 for a set shipped, while 17x8 or 17x8.5 Rota's $700 to $750 shipped.
Add just about any race tire. The V710's are the best right now but sizing will be an issue until the 245/40-17's come out. For high end competition you pretty much have to have either these or the A3S05's, and very wide. For local stuff, especially given the results you're showing, anything will work -- Hoosier, Ecsta V700, Victoracer, RA-1, etc. The RA-1's are the slowest for autocross, but they're still far better than your Azenis. The 275/40-17 V710's would be the best, but they'd almost certainly require a lot of fender work to fit.
Another option for tires, depending on your region, is finding someone locally who competes seriously at national stuff. A lot of them do 20-30 runs on a set of tires than sell them cheap to someone else. Hey, if they think that extra 0.2s is worth spending an extra $10/run, then take advantage of it.
Huge plus for the Evo school's. At least do phase 1. Driver is the biggest factor, with tires next.
If you can get a good set of wide 16" wheels with an R-compound that fit, that would be great. I've only done research on 17" wheels since my rotors are too big for 16s. 16's would likely be cheaper and perhaps better gearing.
For local events, a set of 17x8.5 SSR Competitions would be a good size and very light without being really expensive. Rota has a number of options that are less than half the price though a bit heavier and I think only one option in 8.5 width. No problems with Rota's and R compounds. SSR's will run about $1700 for a set shipped, while 17x8 or 17x8.5 Rota's $700 to $750 shipped.
Add just about any race tire. The V710's are the best right now but sizing will be an issue until the 245/40-17's come out. For high end competition you pretty much have to have either these or the A3S05's, and very wide. For local stuff, especially given the results you're showing, anything will work -- Hoosier, Ecsta V700, Victoracer, RA-1, etc. The RA-1's are the slowest for autocross, but they're still far better than your Azenis. The 275/40-17 V710's would be the best, but they'd almost certainly require a lot of fender work to fit.
Another option for tires, depending on your region, is finding someone locally who competes seriously at national stuff. A lot of them do 20-30 runs on a set of tires than sell them cheap to someone else. Hey, if they think that extra 0.2s is worth spending an extra $10/run, then take advantage of it.
| WRX_Mundi | 05-08-2005 11:18 PM |
Here's a page he has showing dyno runs of various SM cars as other info: [url]http://www.siastuning.com/SMspecs.htm[/url]
Not only big tires, but big wheels (10" wide front, 12" rear).
[QUOTE=Apex Rex]It will be interesting to see some very well driven and prepped STi's and Evo's run in SM. Good enough to de-throne the M3s in SM? Have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]When nationals moves to asphalt it will be much more likely. Weight and balance arealways going to be a big negative for the STi/Evo, though it looks like someone's contemplating a '95 Impreza at 2650 pounds with STi drivetrain. I'm sure they'll all be bloody fast.
Anyway, we've had this discussion before. The M3 will be toppled by something eventually. Not sure if it'll be Daddio in an Evo, an STi, a FrankenSubaru, or something else entirely. But relevent to this topic are, at a national event level: huge wheels and tires are a big plus; you're competing against people with lots of driving and tuning experience; you're competing against people with way too much money and time; the competition is probably ahead of you in chassis regardless; and no matter how your local results are, nationals are very different.
To Paco: If you have a national champion in your region that helps, but I don't see any obvious names in your results. It looks like Richard Beecher has been going to national stuff for a while. If you can get to be matching him in PAX at your events, then you should at least not be embarrasingly slow at a national event, though good luck with getting into the trophies. It looks like your region, like mine, is such that to be in a regular trophying position at nationals, you need to be beating the entire field by a second or more in PAX at every event.
I'm not quite sure how this discussion turned into a "recommend a set of wheels/tires for $2000 or under" to a "what's required to trophy at nationals" thing. But it's fun to BS regardless.
Not only big tires, but big wheels (10" wide front, 12" rear).
[QUOTE=Apex Rex]It will be interesting to see some very well driven and prepped STi's and Evo's run in SM. Good enough to de-throne the M3s in SM? Have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]When nationals moves to asphalt it will be much more likely. Weight and balance arealways going to be a big negative for the STi/Evo, though it looks like someone's contemplating a '95 Impreza at 2650 pounds with STi drivetrain. I'm sure they'll all be bloody fast.
Anyway, we've had this discussion before. The M3 will be toppled by something eventually. Not sure if it'll be Daddio in an Evo, an STi, a FrankenSubaru, or something else entirely. But relevent to this topic are, at a national event level: huge wheels and tires are a big plus; you're competing against people with lots of driving and tuning experience; you're competing against people with way too much money and time; the competition is probably ahead of you in chassis regardless; and no matter how your local results are, nationals are very different.
To Paco: If you have a national champion in your region that helps, but I don't see any obvious names in your results. It looks like Richard Beecher has been going to national stuff for a while. If you can get to be matching him in PAX at your events, then you should at least not be embarrasingly slow at a national event, though good luck with getting into the trophies. It looks like your region, like mine, is such that to be in a regular trophying position at nationals, you need to be beating the entire field by a second or more in PAX at every event.
I'm not quite sure how this discussion turned into a "recommend a set of wheels/tires for $2000 or under" to a "what's required to trophy at nationals" thing. But it's fun to BS regardless.
| Pacobeagle | 05-09-2005 07:58 AM |
Honestly guys, I think I have found a lot of valuable and yet humbling information. I, for starters, don't claim to be a great driver by any means. I wanted you guys to get a better perspective of what I have as a car and what my accomplisments have been so far. As I enjoy this sport more and want to get better at it, I ask for help to those that know. I'm only 26yrs old and have a lot to learn.
I have been contemplating installing my full drivetrain into a GC8 body I can get my hands on. That alone would decrease weight by some 200-400lbs. But that's in the future when I can afford to build a track only vehicle.
So, to all that responded I say thanks as I will be purchasing a set of Rota Slipstreams in the 17X8.5 and getting a set of Kumho's in a 245/40 for now. I will post my results as I go.
As for an EVO school...I will be attending a NASA driving school at Sebring in June so that should help me learn a little more about driving.
Cheers,
Jose
I have been contemplating installing my full drivetrain into a GC8 body I can get my hands on. That alone would decrease weight by some 200-400lbs. But that's in the future when I can afford to build a track only vehicle.
So, to all that responded I say thanks as I will be purchasing a set of Rota Slipstreams in the 17X8.5 and getting a set of Kumho's in a 245/40 for now. I will post my results as I go.
As for an EVO school...I will be attending a NASA driving school at Sebring in June so that should help me learn a little more about driving.
Cheers,
Jose
| KC | 05-09-2005 08:09 AM |
[QUOTE=Pacobeagle1]SpeedyHam, I'm not sure about my driving as I've never been critiqued about it. But with the PAX index I placed 25th out of 175 cars overall. Check out the results at [url]www.autox.carlc.com[/url]. Look me up, Jose Martinez #84 subaru wrx sedan in SM.[/QUOTE]
That last event that you Paxed 25th was the same weekend as the Alanta ProSolo.
So of course most of the local hot-shoes would be up at the Pro.
I looked at some of the earlier results... and your pax was much further down the list.
One thing you don't need here (unless your name is Teflon Tom) is an artificially inflated ego because you placed decently in Pax because some of the hotshoes were at a different event.
Auto-x isn't about ego... check that when you sign the waiver. Just because you did well at one event doesn't mean you'll do well elsewhere. As someone else said, bring yourself to a Div or Nat event... that'll show you what you need to do. Paxing in the top 10% is where you need to be.
Improve the driver and the car will fall into line... you'll be able to make the car dance and leave others scratching their head asking 'how'd he do that?' ;)
[QUOTE]As for an EVO school...I will be attending a NASA driving school at Sebring in June so that should help me learn a little more about driving.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but if you want to be a better auto-xer... EVO school is pretty much the top of the game as far as auto-x schools go.
--kC
That last event that you Paxed 25th was the same weekend as the Alanta ProSolo.
So of course most of the local hot-shoes would be up at the Pro.
I looked at some of the earlier results... and your pax was much further down the list.
One thing you don't need here (unless your name is Teflon Tom) is an artificially inflated ego because you placed decently in Pax because some of the hotshoes were at a different event.
Auto-x isn't about ego... check that when you sign the waiver. Just because you did well at one event doesn't mean you'll do well elsewhere. As someone else said, bring yourself to a Div or Nat event... that'll show you what you need to do. Paxing in the top 10% is where you need to be.
Improve the driver and the car will fall into line... you'll be able to make the car dance and leave others scratching their head asking 'how'd he do that?' ;)
[QUOTE]As for an EVO school...I will be attending a NASA driving school at Sebring in June so that should help me learn a little more about driving.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but if you want to be a better auto-xer... EVO school is pretty much the top of the game as far as auto-x schools go.
--kC
| zoomfactor | 05-09-2005 12:19 PM |
I'll vouch for Jose definitely not being an egomaniac;)
He is a badass Subaru mechanic, however! :D
He is a badass Subaru mechanic, however! :D
| Pacobeagle | 05-09-2005 01:56 PM |
KC, very good points indeed. As I go to each event I try to learn and try to better m yself for the next event. This is why I believe I am paxing higher than before. I talk to people and ask how I could have improved and such. As I mentioned before I'm young and have lots to learn. Where can I go to find out about a div or nat'l event so as to go and see how things are done?
| DrBiggly | 05-09-2005 02:15 PM |
There is a SEDiv coming up in Atlanta pretty soon I think. :)
-Biggly
-Biggly
| rankink | 05-09-2005 02:51 PM |
[QUOTE=Pacobeagle1]KC, very good points indeed. As I go to each event I try to learn and try to better m yself for the next event. This is why I believe I am paxing higher than before. I talk to people and ask how I could have improved and such. As I mentioned before I'm young and have lots to learn. Where can I go to find out about a div or nat'l event so as to go and see how things are done?[/QUOTE]
Jose,
Check this thread out for the national events -
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726663[/url]
Jose,
Check this thread out for the national events -
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726663[/url]
| omahasubaru | 05-09-2005 03:08 PM |
[QUOTE=Slatt]Or if you have a sedan and a $2600 budget, 8.5" X 17 +48 SSR Competitions & 245/40/17 Hoosier S-05's ...
Clearance may depend on your strut. I have AGX and get a faint rub line on the rear strut. Statically, the clearance measures 0.1".[/QUOTE]
Don't need a sedan for those... although you may have to choose a different tire size.
With my [url=http://www.zzyzsmotorsports.com]zzyzx motorsports[/url] coilovers I was able to fit a set of the 17x8.5" SSR Comps w/ 225/45-17 Hoosier A3S04's without any spacers and still plenty of strut clearance (thanks zzyzx!), fender clearance wasn't an issue, but would be with a wider tire, your spring rate and amount of body roll can make that a non-issue as well.
Clearance may depend on your strut. I have AGX and get a faint rub line on the rear strut. Statically, the clearance measures 0.1".[/QUOTE]
Don't need a sedan for those... although you may have to choose a different tire size.
With my [url=http://www.zzyzsmotorsports.com]zzyzx motorsports[/url] coilovers I was able to fit a set of the 17x8.5" SSR Comps w/ 225/45-17 Hoosier A3S04's without any spacers and still plenty of strut clearance (thanks zzyzx!), fender clearance wasn't an issue, but would be with a wider tire, your spring rate and amount of body roll can make that a non-issue as well.
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