| STiSuBiEwRx | 12-25-2002 12:38 AM |
Weight Reduction
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Well i didn't know what topic to put this in so i just put it in here. Have any of you guys put your Subie on a diet? I want to do a weight reduction on my 00 2.5RS and looking forward in taking out about 200 pounds. What can i do to achieve my goal? I don't want to do anything to the interior or the A/C. I know the A/C weighs alot but i want to keep it. So what can i take out that is not needed to reach my 200 pound goal?
| Danny5 | 12-25-2002 12:42 AM |
Take off 35 lbs by going to a carbon or aluminum hood.
Take off 35 lbs by going to the light weight front bumper beam.
Take off 30 lbs by going to the light weight rear bumper beam.
Take off 5lbs by removing the insanely huge piece of steel in your glove compartment.
Now lose 90lbs :D
To get even more weight out, you will have to look at removing tar from the interior, or maybe getting an aluminum deck lid...
-Danny
Take off 35 lbs by going to the light weight front bumper beam.
Take off 30 lbs by going to the light weight rear bumper beam.
Take off 5lbs by removing the insanely huge piece of steel in your glove compartment.
Now lose 90lbs :D
To get even more weight out, you will have to look at removing tar from the interior, or maybe getting an aluminum deck lid...
-Danny
| QAboy | 12-25-2002 12:52 AM |
there's some poundage to be lost in the trunk.
and yeah, the tar is one of my next big projects. DannyRS, do you have any tips?
--eric
and yeah, the tar is one of my next big projects. DannyRS, do you have any tips?
--eric
| Lord | 12-25-2002 01:05 AM |
eat subway, you can get rip 100lbs like eveyone else :P mouahahhaha
joke
joke
| STiSuBiEwRx | 12-25-2002 01:12 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DannyRS [/i]
[B]Take off 35 lbs by going to a carbon or aluminum hood.
Take off 35 lbs by going to the light weight front bumper beam.
Take off 30 lbs by going to the light weight rear bumper beam.
Take off 5lbs by removing the insanely huge piece of steel in your glove compartment.
Now lose 90lbs :D
To get even more weight out, you will have to look at removing tar from the interior, or maybe getting an aluminum deck lid...
-Danny [/B][/QUOTE]
There thats what i was missing. Where can you get lightweight front and rear beams? How much does the a/c weigh exactly?
[B]Take off 35 lbs by going to a carbon or aluminum hood.
Take off 35 lbs by going to the light weight front bumper beam.
Take off 30 lbs by going to the light weight rear bumper beam.
Take off 5lbs by removing the insanely huge piece of steel in your glove compartment.
Now lose 90lbs :D
To get even more weight out, you will have to look at removing tar from the interior, or maybe getting an aluminum deck lid...
-Danny [/B][/QUOTE]
There thats what i was missing. Where can you get lightweight front and rear beams? How much does the a/c weigh exactly?
| 2.5 RRRRS | 12-25-2002 11:40 AM |
I haven't taken my AC out of my WRX, but the AC in my Miata weighs ~35 lb if that's any help.
Make sure you use lightweight (probably Subaru OEM unless you have tons of cash to burn) wheels as well as some lightweight tires.
Lift up all carpet aand remove the all sound deadining padding, then reinstall carpet so as not to look.....you know...
Some Miata people are obsessed with "adding lightness." There are some 1800 lb Miatas around.
Later,
Jeremy
Make sure you use lightweight (probably Subaru OEM unless you have tons of cash to burn) wheels as well as some lightweight tires.
Lift up all carpet aand remove the all sound deadining padding, then reinstall carpet so as not to look.....you know...
Some Miata people are obsessed with "adding lightness." There are some 1800 lb Miatas around.
Later,
Jeremy
| interiot | 12-25-2002 12:02 PM |
[QUOTE]Some Miata people are obsessed with "adding lightness." There are some 1800 lb Miatas around.[/QUOTE]
:eek: Sweet. Good to know. That tames my lust for the Lotus Elise just a little. Which is good since the safety laws in the US make it impossible to import one at a resonable price at the moment, but freely let monstrous dangerous SUV's with high bumpers onto the street. :mad:
:eek: Sweet. Good to know. That tames my lust for the Lotus Elise just a little. Which is good since the safety laws in the US make it impossible to import one at a resonable price at the moment, but freely let monstrous dangerous SUV's with high bumpers onto the street. :mad:
| DoinkMobb | 12-25-2002 03:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by QAboy [/i]
[B]there's some poundage to be lost in the trunk.
and yeah, the tar is one of my next big projects. DannyRS, do you have any tips?
--eric [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah...the old sound deadening tar. That was a fun little project.
The easy part was taking out the carpet and seats and little plastic caps to hold everything in place. The hard part was squatting on the floor of my car and chiseling and scraping for horus and hours.
I had a flat head screwdriver, a paint scraper and a mallet as my tools. Some sections chipped off in a million little pieces while other sections sorta peeled off. All in all, I estimated that I took out about 20 lbs of tar.
Was it worth it? Eh, not really. But keep taking weight off and it'll add up after a while I guess.
Other ways I've "added lightness":
- removed spare and jack
- ripped out trunk liner
- removed metal plate from glove box door (not the bar behind the glove box, the metal plate actually inside the door, remove at your passengers risk)
- took out intake silencer
- removed plastic seat rail covers
- took out my rear speakers (they were getting old and sounding muffled anyway)
- ripped out heavy rubber pad between rear seat and the trunk
- took off rear plastic strut top covers
Don't bother removing the rear seat cushions (fabric covered foam) or any interior panels (thick cardboard). With all the stuff I've removed, my car is around 50 lbs. lighter.
My plan for lightweight parts:
- lightweight battery
- aluminum hood
- lighter racing seats
- lightweight bumper beams
[B]there's some poundage to be lost in the trunk.
and yeah, the tar is one of my next big projects. DannyRS, do you have any tips?
--eric [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah...the old sound deadening tar. That was a fun little project.
The easy part was taking out the carpet and seats and little plastic caps to hold everything in place. The hard part was squatting on the floor of my car and chiseling and scraping for horus and hours.
I had a flat head screwdriver, a paint scraper and a mallet as my tools. Some sections chipped off in a million little pieces while other sections sorta peeled off. All in all, I estimated that I took out about 20 lbs of tar.
Was it worth it? Eh, not really. But keep taking weight off and it'll add up after a while I guess.
Other ways I've "added lightness":
- removed spare and jack
- ripped out trunk liner
- removed metal plate from glove box door (not the bar behind the glove box, the metal plate actually inside the door, remove at your passengers risk)
- took out intake silencer
- removed plastic seat rail covers
- took out my rear speakers (they were getting old and sounding muffled anyway)
- ripped out heavy rubber pad between rear seat and the trunk
- took off rear plastic strut top covers
Don't bother removing the rear seat cushions (fabric covered foam) or any interior panels (thick cardboard). With all the stuff I've removed, my car is around 50 lbs. lighter.
My plan for lightweight parts:
- lightweight battery
- aluminum hood
- lighter racing seats
- lightweight bumper beams
| whiterabbit | 12-25-2002 03:29 PM |
titanium exhausts :)
lighter seats
remove cruise and ac
lighter seats
remove cruise and ac
| tdxflex | 12-26-2002 02:41 AM |
others to add that haven't been mentioned:
lighter brakes like perrin/wilwood dynalite calipers
lighter flywheel
not sure what your exhaust is made out of, but if the manifold is cast iron, you can get a stainless steel one
if you have a 3rd seatbelt in the middle, you can take out the assembly for it unless you want to keep it
on a side note, i'm pretty surprised no one's flamed this post. usually no one takes weight reduction posts seriously
lighter brakes like perrin/wilwood dynalite calipers
lighter flywheel
not sure what your exhaust is made out of, but if the manifold is cast iron, you can get a stainless steel one
if you have a 3rd seatbelt in the middle, you can take out the assembly for it unless you want to keep it
on a side note, i'm pretty surprised no one's flamed this post. usually no one takes weight reduction posts seriously
| That Guy | 12-26-2002 02:07 PM |
I thought about putting my RS on a diet for a while. Found a website (the address escapes at the moment) that listed the weights of many "removable" parts of the car. It included tar, interior lining, spare tire, seats, AC, blah, blah, blah... Anyway, I added up some of the stuff and saw that I could dump about 150 lbs. But if I did it, it would be a noisy two seater and not very comfy to ride in. :rolleyes:
| STiSuBiEwRx | 12-26-2002 03:28 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by That Guy [/i]
[B]I thought about putting my RS on a diet for a while. Found a website (the address escapes at the moment) that listed the weights of many "removable" parts of the car. It included tar, interior lining, spare tire, seats, AC, blah, blah, blah... Anyway, I added up some of the stuff and saw that I could dump about 150 lbs. But if I did it, it would be a noisy two seater and not very comfy to ride in. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
What site was that?
[B]I thought about putting my RS on a diet for a while. Found a website (the address escapes at the moment) that listed the weights of many "removable" parts of the car. It included tar, interior lining, spare tire, seats, AC, blah, blah, blah... Anyway, I added up some of the stuff and saw that I could dump about 150 lbs. But if I did it, it would be a noisy two seater and not very comfy to ride in. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
What site was that?
| interiot | 12-26-2002 04:02 PM |
[url=http://www.oakos.com/wrx/weights.htm]This[/url] is a list of weights of various things on a WRX... not sure if that helps ya.
| dust12 | 12-26-2002 04:33 PM |
How loud is your car after you remove all the sound deadening materials/tar from the car?
For 20 lbs of weight it doesn't seem worth it, but I guess I'm not a professional racer either.
For 20 lbs of weight it doesn't seem worth it, but I guess I'm not a professional racer either.
| yebokmj | 12-26-2002 07:00 PM |
Light weight bumpers
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I had the light wieght bumpers beams on my RS. The beam was damaged and replaced twice with this mod. Once time in a parrallel parking situation I came back to find it was damaged from someone getting in or out of the spot. Another time I bumped and SUV at maybe 4 mph and alot of damage was caused to my car since my bumper had no strenght. The AC condensor was damaged, the front end frame around the radiator, a head light was cracked and the hood was buckled. I truely believe that a normal beam would have prevented all or most of the damage. Just something to be aware of.
Joshua
Joshua
| That Guy | 12-27-2002 10:24 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by STiSuBiEwRx [/i]
[B]What site was that? [/B][/QUOTE]
The Oakos site posted by interiot is the one I used. Looking at some real numbers, Subaru did a good job of keeping the weight down already. :D I'll pay the 150 lb. penalty in weight for a little creature comfort. Its not a race car.
[B]What site was that? [/B][/QUOTE]
The Oakos site posted by interiot is the one I used. Looking at some real numbers, Subaru did a good job of keeping the weight down already. :D I'll pay the 150 lb. penalty in weight for a little creature comfort. Its not a race car.
| bemani | 12-27-2002 01:01 PM |
Anyone have weights of the stock, whiteline, cusco, etc sway bars?
| foolio | 12-27-2002 03:51 PM |
I put a light weight rear bumper beam on my 00rs and it handles sooo much differently.
J
J
| geronimo66 | 12-27-2002 06:19 PM |
I should be picking up my 2000 L soon, and will be taking it to a local scale...
Has anyone weighed their cars yet? I thought the L was around 2700-2800
Has anyone weighed their cars yet? I thought the L was around 2700-2800
| Templar | 12-29-2002 12:37 AM |
I have heard from several experienced racers that if you want to take the sound deadening tar out, the easiest way is to get some liquid nitrogen and pour it on the tar. Then the tar will just break right off.
Of course, you should be EXTREMELY careful when attempting this.
Of course, you should be EXTREMELY careful when attempting this.
| Blitzkrieg | 12-29-2002 01:43 AM |
tar removal
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I am currently removing all the tar from my project 240sx, and the best way i found to remove the stuff is a heat gun, high powered hair dryer. Just warm the tar up and peel the stuff up with a small one 1/2" sheat rock knife. This does wonders and its a bit faster. Then after its all done sand it down with some nice sand paper and paint or cover it up with your carpet. :)
BlitZ
BlitZ
| bemani | 12-31-2002 11:53 AM |
The stock WRX cd player weights over 6 lbs :)
| aspera | 01-02-2003 03:03 AM |
Where is the old weight reduction thread?
Go out to your WRX right now and remove the lower plastic cover on the steering column and remove the metal plate underneath it. It's just 3 #2 Phillip screws. Be careful not to strip them.
Go out to your WRX right now and remove the lower plastic cover on the steering column and remove the metal plate underneath it. It's just 3 #2 Phillip screws. Be careful not to strip them.
| DoinkMobb | 01-02-2003 07:33 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by dust12 [/i]
[B]How loud is your car after you remove all the sound deadening materials/tar from the car?
For 20 lbs of weight it doesn't seem worth it, but I guess I'm not a professional racer either. [/B][/QUOTE]
My car wasn't any louder after I removed the sound deadening tar. But it was a lot of work, and if I was going to do it ever again, I'd use a heat gun or at least a hair dryer. 20 - 25 lbs isn't very much, but at least it's something. And now I can warn others before trying this.
You can only go so far with ripping crap out of your car before its either, 1) uncomfortable to drive, or 2) unsafe to drive on the street.
[B]How loud is your car after you remove all the sound deadening materials/tar from the car?
For 20 lbs of weight it doesn't seem worth it, but I guess I'm not a professional racer either. [/B][/QUOTE]
My car wasn't any louder after I removed the sound deadening tar. But it was a lot of work, and if I was going to do it ever again, I'd use a heat gun or at least a hair dryer. 20 - 25 lbs isn't very much, but at least it's something. And now I can warn others before trying this.
You can only go so far with ripping crap out of your car before its either, 1) uncomfortable to drive, or 2) unsafe to drive on the street.
| Blair | 01-03-2003 02:50 PM |
I would absolutely not remove the metal plates under the steering column or in the glove box. These plates are there to protect your knees and legs in an accident. The plate under the steering column is designed to spread the point of impact on your legs and is designed to absorb the impact of your legs into the dash in an accident. If you remove them your legs and lower body will be driven under the dash and into the firewall or steering column causing greater injury in an accident.
Blair
Blair
| aspera | 01-03-2003 05:01 PM |
Yeah, but they're still heavy. An aluminum plate would do the same thing, but steel is what they used...
| tfosdick | 02-04-2003 04:51 PM |
get some light weight rims that will lose alot of weight that will make a bigger diff. the engine wont have to work so hard to turn the wheels
Trev
Trev
| MGXsport | 02-04-2003 05:43 PM |
yeah try getting rid of unsprung weight. That helps a lot also.
| BlkRexWagon | 02-05-2003 08:55 AM |
I completely agree with tfosdick and MGXsport.
While obviously more expensive than ripping out tar or other "optional" pieces, reducing unsprung weight from the wheels, tires, suspension, brakes, etc. will make a much more noticeable difference in both power-to-the-ground and suspension behavior. If you're goal is just to improve the handling of the car, some new springs/shocks should do that without making your car any louder and/or unsafe for occupants.
(Also, I think anybody who has had an accident with "lightweight" bumper beams will tell you to stay away from them!!)
$.02 :)
While obviously more expensive than ripping out tar or other "optional" pieces, reducing unsprung weight from the wheels, tires, suspension, brakes, etc. will make a much more noticeable difference in both power-to-the-ground and suspension behavior. If you're goal is just to improve the handling of the car, some new springs/shocks should do that without making your car any louder and/or unsafe for occupants.
(Also, I think anybody who has had an accident with "lightweight" bumper beams will tell you to stay away from them!!)
$.02 :)
| aspera | 02-05-2003 09:31 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BlkRexWagon [/i]
[B]
(Also, I think anybody who has had an accident with "lightweight" bumper beams will tell you to stay away from them!!)
$.02 :) [/B][/QUOTE]
...except anybody who has been hit on the side of the bumper and the other side of the car got shoved out of whack by the bumper itself...
[B]
(Also, I think anybody who has had an accident with "lightweight" bumper beams will tell you to stay away from them!!)
$.02 :) [/B][/QUOTE]
...except anybody who has been hit on the side of the bumper and the other side of the car got shoved out of whack by the bumper itself...
| BlkRexWagon | 02-05-2003 09:36 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B]
...except anybody who has been hit on the side of the bumper and the other side of the car got shoved out of whack by the bumper itself... [/B][/QUOTE]
I guess you're saying that the normal "heavy" bumper does more damage if you get hit from the side? :confused:
If so then would specifying straight frontal or rear impacts make more sense?
Either way... messing around with what is your first line of defense in most accidents/crashes is probably not worth saving 50-60lbs from a daily driver. If it's a track car, go for it.
[B]
...except anybody who has been hit on the side of the bumper and the other side of the car got shoved out of whack by the bumper itself... [/B][/QUOTE]
I guess you're saying that the normal "heavy" bumper does more damage if you get hit from the side? :confused:
If so then would specifying straight frontal or rear impacts make more sense?
Either way... messing around with what is your first line of defense in most accidents/crashes is probably not worth saving 50-60lbs from a daily driver. If it's a track car, go for it.
| ImprezedRS | 02-05-2003 11:03 AM |
I had recently got my 2000 2.5RS auto down to 2640lbs, but since then it gained a little. My goal is to get it down to about 2500 lbs and call it quits for that. Heres a list of my weight reduction mods
Light weight bumper beams
Remove metal Knee beams in dash
Coilovers( saved about 5 lbs each corner)
Removed everthing in trunk
13.5 lb battery
removed rear spoiler
Morette headlight conversion(not much weight saved here)
Removed Tar from back of car to the back seat(got to tired to do the rest)
Removed Rear speakers
Lighter front speakers and Cd player
Removed Windshield Washer Fluid Tank(not that heavy without water in it)
Aluminum 4POT Subaru Calipers(just found out last night they where aluminum)
Things to come:
Carbon Fiber hood(geting in a week)
Aluminum or Carbon Fiber Trunk
Sparco EVO 2 Seats
Carbon Fiber door Panels
Carbon Fiber Dash(custom done)
Removing Sunroof
Replacing the Rear windows with the lightweight stuff
Light weight bumper beams
Remove metal Knee beams in dash
Coilovers( saved about 5 lbs each corner)
Removed everthing in trunk
13.5 lb battery
removed rear spoiler
Morette headlight conversion(not much weight saved here)
Removed Tar from back of car to the back seat(got to tired to do the rest)
Removed Rear speakers
Lighter front speakers and Cd player
Removed Windshield Washer Fluid Tank(not that heavy without water in it)
Aluminum 4POT Subaru Calipers(just found out last night they where aluminum)
Things to come:
Carbon Fiber hood(geting in a week)
Aluminum or Carbon Fiber Trunk
Sparco EVO 2 Seats
Carbon Fiber door Panels
Carbon Fiber Dash(custom done)
Removing Sunroof
Replacing the Rear windows with the lightweight stuff
| kotaro | 02-05-2003 02:16 PM |
ImprezedRS, how much did your car weigh before those mods?
| ImprezedRS | 02-05-2003 04:24 PM |
Roughly 3000lbs
| kotaro | 02-05-2003 04:49 PM |
wow, and only with those mods you reduced it by ~300lbs? great!
thanks for the answer :)
thanks for the answer :)
| ImprezedRS | 02-05-2003 04:53 PM |
Yeah somewhere in that area, there are a lot of misc. stuff also that I didn't mention. There has been weight reductions in aftermarket parts that I didn't mention. But the ones I mention had the most weght reduction.
Now if you want to be anal about your weight reduction you could change out the bolts and nuts in the car with aluminum or titanium.
Now if you want to be anal about your weight reduction you could change out the bolts and nuts in the car with aluminum or titanium.
| ellisnc | 02-05-2003 06:06 PM |
My WRX is at around 2800 now and it feels waaay better than stock
You guys that scoff at weight savings should feel what I feel :)
Imprezed... have you removed the A/C yet? that's probably around 25 or so. I'm going to weigh mine in a couple months and I'll post the results. It's good to know there's another person as serious about weight savings as me:)
You guys that scoff at weight savings should feel what I feel :)
Imprezed... have you removed the A/C yet? that's probably around 25 or so. I'm going to weigh mine in a couple months and I'll post the results. It's good to know there's another person as serious about weight savings as me:)
| Layman | 02-05-2003 06:08 PM |
Can you replace the door panels and window mechanisms with non-power ones? I imagine that would save at least 7 lbs on each side.
| Quick WRX | 02-05-2003 06:24 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]My WRX is at around 2800 now and it feels waaay better than stock
You guys that scoff at weight savings should feel what I feel :)
Imprezed... have you removed the A/C yet? that's probably around 25 or so. I'm going to weigh mine in a couple months and I'll post the results. It's good to know there's another person as serious about weight savings as me:) [/B][/QUOTE]
What did you do to get that weight?
[B]My WRX is at around 2800 now and it feels waaay better than stock
You guys that scoff at weight savings should feel what I feel :)
Imprezed... have you removed the A/C yet? that's probably around 25 or so. I'm going to weigh mine in a couple months and I'll post the results. It's good to know there's another person as serious about weight savings as me:) [/B][/QUOTE]
What did you do to get that weight?
| DoinkMobb | 02-05-2003 07:35 PM |
From ImprezedRS's list:
Light weight bumper beams - [B]thinking about it[/B]
Remove metal Knee beams in dash
Coilovers( saved about 5 lbs each corner)
Removed everthing in trunk - [B]done[/B]
13.5 lb battery - [B]on my list[/B]
removed rear spoiler - [B]never had one[/B]
Morette headlight conversion(not much weight saved here)
Removed Tar from back of car to the back seat(got to tired to do the rest) - [B]done[/B]
Removed Rear speakers - [B]done[/B]
Lighter front speakers and Cd player
Removed Windshield Washer Fluid Tank(not that heavy without water in it) - [B]I like a clean windshield[/B]
Aluminum 4POT Subaru Calipers(just found out last night they where aluminum)
ImprezedRS - did you weigh your car before and after you removed/replaced parts, or are you estimating?
The stuff on your list that I've also done has taken about 50 lbs off my car - so the other things that I haven't done yet will take off ~250 lbs?
Light weight bumper beams - [B]thinking about it[/B]
Remove metal Knee beams in dash
Coilovers( saved about 5 lbs each corner)
Removed everthing in trunk - [B]done[/B]
13.5 lb battery - [B]on my list[/B]
removed rear spoiler - [B]never had one[/B]
Morette headlight conversion(not much weight saved here)
Removed Tar from back of car to the back seat(got to tired to do the rest) - [B]done[/B]
Removed Rear speakers - [B]done[/B]
Lighter front speakers and Cd player
Removed Windshield Washer Fluid Tank(not that heavy without water in it) - [B]I like a clean windshield[/B]
Aluminum 4POT Subaru Calipers(just found out last night they where aluminum)
ImprezedRS - did you weigh your car before and after you removed/replaced parts, or are you estimating?
The stuff on your list that I've also done has taken about 50 lbs off my car - so the other things that I haven't done yet will take off ~250 lbs?
| ellisnc | 02-05-2003 08:20 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Quick WRX [/i]
[B]
What did you do to get that weight? [/B][/QUOTE]
mine is just an estimate but I think it's pretty accurate
JDM front bumper beam
remove fog lights
remove A/C - everything - condenser, evap, compressor, all piping
small battery
remove cruise
remove underhood padding
remove intake snorkel
remove washer bottle
up/downpipes - catless
remove all heat shielding
coilovers
remove airbags (Spec C steering wheel)
Recaro pole position seats
remove driver and passenger metal knee bolsters
remove stereo - everything - headunit, speakers, sub
remove all unneeded hardware in the doors (metal bracing for grab handles)
remove metal bracing in center console
remove center console lid
remove all rear seatbelts (surprisingly heavy)
full JIC Titanium exhaust
remove rear seats
remove rear seatback bracing
remove rear setback padding
remove spare
remove all carpet and padding in the trunk
remove jack and tools
remove misc. brackets from the engine and instrument panel - DRL module, throttle cable stays, A/C bracketry, steering column extra metal to prevent theft
I think this is everything, the final things that I'd like to do is some lighter brakes and a exhaust manifold. my plans are on hold for now to see how the STi situation pans out.
All this is going on Advan RC2's with 235/40-17 A032R's ;)
[B]
What did you do to get that weight? [/B][/QUOTE]
mine is just an estimate but I think it's pretty accurate
JDM front bumper beam
remove fog lights
remove A/C - everything - condenser, evap, compressor, all piping
small battery
remove cruise
remove underhood padding
remove intake snorkel
remove washer bottle
up/downpipes - catless
remove all heat shielding
coilovers
remove airbags (Spec C steering wheel)
Recaro pole position seats
remove driver and passenger metal knee bolsters
remove stereo - everything - headunit, speakers, sub
remove all unneeded hardware in the doors (metal bracing for grab handles)
remove metal bracing in center console
remove center console lid
remove all rear seatbelts (surprisingly heavy)
full JIC Titanium exhaust
remove rear seats
remove rear seatback bracing
remove rear setback padding
remove spare
remove all carpet and padding in the trunk
remove jack and tools
remove misc. brackets from the engine and instrument panel - DRL module, throttle cable stays, A/C bracketry, steering column extra metal to prevent theft
I think this is everything, the final things that I'd like to do is some lighter brakes and a exhaust manifold. my plans are on hold for now to see how the STi situation pans out.
All this is going on Advan RC2's with 235/40-17 A032R's ;)
| Layman | 02-05-2003 09:44 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
mine is just an estimate but I think it's pretty accurate
JDM front bumper beam
remove fog lights
remove A/C - everything - condenser, evap, compressor, all piping
small battery
remove cruise
..... [/B][/QUOTE]
Holy crap, dude. I guess you're planning on keeping your car forever. ;)
That's hardcore.
[B]
mine is just an estimate but I think it's pretty accurate
JDM front bumper beam
remove fog lights
remove A/C - everything - condenser, evap, compressor, all piping
small battery
remove cruise
..... [/B][/QUOTE]
Holy crap, dude. I guess you're planning on keeping your car forever. ;)
That's hardcore.
| aspera | 02-06-2003 02:25 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
remove all unneeded hardware in the doors (metal bracing for grab handles)
[/B][/QUOTE]
Elaborate please.:)
Did you remove the little hockey pucks on the rear subframe? I'm guessing you just forgot to include that in your l-o-n-g list. Same for the army green fuel rail protectors? Do you still have the front subframe/bumper?
Also, do you really need four grab handles above the windows? I mean the car is not that hard to get out of.:) Bonus: It's high weight.
I wish I could mount the ignition switch down in the center console like a Saab. Inside the storage box would be super sano.:)
WEIGHT MUST GO!
[B]
remove all unneeded hardware in the doors (metal bracing for grab handles)
[/B][/QUOTE]
Elaborate please.:)
Did you remove the little hockey pucks on the rear subframe? I'm guessing you just forgot to include that in your l-o-n-g list. Same for the army green fuel rail protectors? Do you still have the front subframe/bumper?
Also, do you really need four grab handles above the windows? I mean the car is not that hard to get out of.:) Bonus: It's high weight.
I wish I could mount the ignition switch down in the center console like a Saab. Inside the storage box would be super sano.:)
WEIGHT MUST GO!
| ellisnc | 02-06-2003 05:59 AM |
actually, no I can put everything back the way it was without too much work and have the system recharged.
I haven't ripped a lot of the interior apart because I run SM and want to remain "semi-legal"
I haven't removed the injector covers - just lazy I guess it's a PITA
Hockey pucks on the rear subframe?
Also no I haven't removed the front lower subframe connector. It's not really a subframe as it doesn't really support anything. It's at the lowest point in the car and I've had it off before and honestly it doesn't weigh that much
Aspera, take the door panels off and there's metal parts that are near the grab handles you don't really need.
I haven't ripped a lot of the interior apart because I run SM and want to remain "semi-legal"
I haven't removed the injector covers - just lazy I guess it's a PITA
Hockey pucks on the rear subframe?
Also no I haven't removed the front lower subframe connector. It's not really a subframe as it doesn't really support anything. It's at the lowest point in the car and I've had it off before and honestly it doesn't weigh that much
Aspera, take the door panels off and there's metal parts that are near the grab handles you don't really need.
| hotrod | 02-06-2003 06:18 AM |
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On the WRX at temps below about 35-40 degrees the asphalt sound deadner just pops off in big flakes. At moderate temps it is a PITA. If you get it hot enough with a heat gun it gets soft enough to be scraped off.
Pretty much a choice of evils, Do you mind working in a cool/cold environment, if not go that way. Get a medium sized hammer and when it is cold just tap the surface of the sound deadner VERY lightly, going over the whole surface. You can hear it popping and crackling. then just take a stiff putty knife or a gasket scraper and it pops off in chips about the size of large potato chips. Process goes very fast at freezing temps.
I don't like the hot technique because, there is a small fire hazard, the fumes bother me if you get things a little too hot, and its harder to scrape it off clean where when cold it leaves a nearly clean surface.
At moderate temps the stuff is pretty tough and a little sticky, don't even try to do it at normal temps you will hate your self.
Just removing bolt ons and things like mentioned on the oakos site, I've taken off about 175 lbs. No extreme mods yet, like bumper beams, racing seats, stock weight clutch, and still full stock exhaust.
Car weight ready to run, 1/4 tank of fuel, with driver, 3050, show room stock same configuration about 3280 IIRC.
Larry
Pretty much a choice of evils, Do you mind working in a cool/cold environment, if not go that way. Get a medium sized hammer and when it is cold just tap the surface of the sound deadner VERY lightly, going over the whole surface. You can hear it popping and crackling. then just take a stiff putty knife or a gasket scraper and it pops off in chips about the size of large potato chips. Process goes very fast at freezing temps.
I don't like the hot technique because, there is a small fire hazard, the fumes bother me if you get things a little too hot, and its harder to scrape it off clean where when cold it leaves a nearly clean surface.
At moderate temps the stuff is pretty tough and a little sticky, don't even try to do it at normal temps you will hate your self.
Just removing bolt ons and things like mentioned on the oakos site, I've taken off about 175 lbs. No extreme mods yet, like bumper beams, racing seats, stock weight clutch, and still full stock exhaust.
Car weight ready to run, 1/4 tank of fuel, with driver, 3050, show room stock same configuration about 3280 IIRC.
Larry
| aspera | 02-06-2003 06:40 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]I haven't removed the injector covers - just lazy I guess it's a PITA
Hockey pucks on the rear subframe?
Aspera, take the door panels off and there's metal parts that are near the grab handles you don't really need. [/B][/QUOTE]
I didn't find the injector covers to be that bad. Do one at a time and expect them to be a PITA and you will be let down. Take lots of time.
The "hockey pucks" are rear suframe damper weights. If you check the diagrams on [url]http://www.subaruparts.com/[/url] you can find them. This is a good way to go hunting for "heavy parts that don't do anything important". If a part looks suspicious, you can see what the part is called. Be forewarned that Engrish and typos are in full effect.:) Pray to god of Bomex that you have way to understanding.
Thanks for the door handle tip.
[B]I haven't removed the injector covers - just lazy I guess it's a PITA
Hockey pucks on the rear subframe?
Aspera, take the door panels off and there's metal parts that are near the grab handles you don't really need. [/B][/QUOTE]
I didn't find the injector covers to be that bad. Do one at a time and expect them to be a PITA and you will be let down. Take lots of time.
The "hockey pucks" are rear suframe damper weights. If you check the diagrams on [url]http://www.subaruparts.com/[/url] you can find them. This is a good way to go hunting for "heavy parts that don't do anything important". If a part looks suspicious, you can see what the part is called. Be forewarned that Engrish and typos are in full effect.:) Pray to god of Bomex that you have way to understanding.
Thanks for the door handle tip.
| Need4Boost | 02-06-2003 09:56 AM |
Wow. You have done some of what I did.
How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup. Got pics of your interior? I am not digging the bare metal look right now. I was considering having carpet layed down.
I just don't want to remove anything that will effect the safety of the vehicle.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
mine is just an estimate but I think it's pretty accurate
JDM front bumper beam
remove fog lights
remove A/C - everything - condenser, evap, compressor, all piping
small battery
remove cruise
remove underhood padding
remove intake snorkel
remove washer bottle
up/downpipes - catless
remove all heat shielding
coilovers
remove airbags (Spec C steering wheel)
Recaro pole position seats
remove driver and passenger metal knee bolsters
remove stereo - everything - headunit, speakers, sub
remove all unneeded hardware in the doors (metal bracing for grab handles)
remove metal bracing in center console
remove center console lid
remove all rear seatbelts (surprisingly heavy)
full JIC Titanium exhaust
remove rear seats
remove rear seatback bracing
remove rear setback padding
remove spare
remove all carpet and padding in the trunk
remove jack and tools
remove misc. brackets from the engine and instrument panel - DRL module, throttle cable stays, A/C bracketry, steering column extra metal to prevent theft
I think this is everything, the final things that I'd like to do is some lighter brakes and a exhaust manifold. my plans are on hold for now to see how the STi situation pans out.
All this is going on Advan RC2's with 235/40-17 A032R's ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup. Got pics of your interior? I am not digging the bare metal look right now. I was considering having carpet layed down.
I just don't want to remove anything that will effect the safety of the vehicle.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ellisnc [/i]
[B]
mine is just an estimate but I think it's pretty accurate
JDM front bumper beam
remove fog lights
remove A/C - everything - condenser, evap, compressor, all piping
small battery
remove cruise
remove underhood padding
remove intake snorkel
remove washer bottle
up/downpipes - catless
remove all heat shielding
coilovers
remove airbags (Spec C steering wheel)
Recaro pole position seats
remove driver and passenger metal knee bolsters
remove stereo - everything - headunit, speakers, sub
remove all unneeded hardware in the doors (metal bracing for grab handles)
remove metal bracing in center console
remove center console lid
remove all rear seatbelts (surprisingly heavy)
full JIC Titanium exhaust
remove rear seats
remove rear seatback bracing
remove rear setback padding
remove spare
remove all carpet and padding in the trunk
remove jack and tools
remove misc. brackets from the engine and instrument panel - DRL module, throttle cable stays, A/C bracketry, steering column extra metal to prevent theft
I think this is everything, the final things that I'd like to do is some lighter brakes and a exhaust manifold. my plans are on hold for now to see how the STi situation pans out.
All this is going on Advan RC2's with 235/40-17 A032R's ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
| dust12 | 02-06-2003 10:00 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Need4Boost [/i]
[B]Wow. You have done some of what I did.
How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup. Got pics of your interior? I am not digging the bare metal look right now. I was considering having carpet layed down.
I just don't want to remove anything that will effect the safety of the vehicle.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Carpet is overrated;)
[B]Wow. You have done some of what I did.
How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup. Got pics of your interior? I am not digging the bare metal look right now. I was considering having carpet layed down.
I just don't want to remove anything that will effect the safety of the vehicle.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Carpet is overrated;)
| Need4Boost | 02-06-2003 10:01 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by dust12 [/i]
[B]
Carpet is overrated;) [/B][/QUOTE]
I know. :)
The bare metal doesn't help much in the winter. hehe. :o
[B]
Carpet is overrated;) [/B][/QUOTE]
I know. :)
The bare metal doesn't help much in the winter. hehe. :o
| ellisnc | 02-06-2003 10:09 AM |
If I were definately going to keep the car I would strip the car down and have it sandblasted and seam welded and do it right with painted floors in the cabin and a weld in roll bar and leave everything bare in the cabin. However, don't know that I'm going to keep it for a long time (possibly trading for an STi in 04) so I don't know what I want to do. The STi may in fact be stripped to this extent though, fenders rolled or replaced, etc.
I'm going to need a house sooner or later as well. ;)
I'll get some pictures for you guys as soon as Spring rolls around. The cabin looks pretty sparce but it's not crazy.
I'm going to need a house sooner or later as well. ;)
I'll get some pictures for you guys as soon as Spring rolls around. The cabin looks pretty sparce but it's not crazy.
| aspera | 02-10-2003 02:49 AM |
Hey, back to the door handles for a second, do the doors feel flimsy?
| aspera | 02-10-2003 03:03 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Need4Boost [/i]
[B]
How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup.
[/B][/QUOTE]
The cruise control is super easy. I removed it and put it back on. :) It seemed to be a large function trade-off for a small weight loss. That all depends on where you drive.
If you commute to work and only drive long distances a few times a year, then you could easily install it only when needed.
in no particular order:
1. Unplug cruise control box, don't lose the rubber seal for the connector
2. Unbolt it.
3. Unscrew it from the throttle bracket.
4. Unhook it from the throttle body.
[B]
How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup.
[/B][/QUOTE]
The cruise control is super easy. I removed it and put it back on. :) It seemed to be a large function trade-off for a small weight loss. That all depends on where you drive.
If you commute to work and only drive long distances a few times a year, then you could easily install it only when needed.
in no particular order:
1. Unplug cruise control box, don't lose the rubber seal for the connector
2. Unbolt it.
3. Unscrew it from the throttle bracket.
4. Unhook it from the throttle body.
| imprezive | 02-10-2003 03:18 AM |
Any body switch out Power window doors for manual ones. Or if you are really hard core. Just take out the hole door panels.
I'm thinking when My car is old and payed off, and I'm buying a STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever.
I'm thinking when My car is old and payed off, and I'm buying a STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever.
| ellisnc | 02-10-2003 06:09 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B]Hey, back to the door handles for a second, do the doors feel flimsy? [/B][/QUOTE]
you mean after you remove the brackets? Mine don't because I have the speakers removed too. I can really feel the weight difference when closing the door!
[B]Hey, back to the door handles for a second, do the doors feel flimsy? [/B][/QUOTE]
you mean after you remove the brackets? Mine don't because I have the speakers removed too. I can really feel the weight difference when closing the door!
| aspera | 02-10-2003 06:10 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by imprezive [/i]
[B]Anybody switch out power window doors for manual ones? Or if you are really hard core, just take out the whole door panels.
I'm thinking when my car is old and paid off, and I'm buying an STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever. [/B][/QUOTE]
If you were really hardcore, you'd remove all of the windows. Who would know, right? Besides, if you remove the A/C, then it makes a lot of sense.
[B]Anybody switch out power window doors for manual ones? Or if you are really hard core, just take out the whole door panels.
I'm thinking when my car is old and paid off, and I'm buying an STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever. [/B][/QUOTE]
If you were really hardcore, you'd remove all of the windows. Who would know, right? Besides, if you remove the A/C, then it makes a lot of sense.
| ellisnc | 02-10-2003 06:14 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by aspera [/i]
[B]
The cruise control is super easy. I removed it and put it back on. :) It seemed to be a large function trade-off for a small weight loss. That all depends on where you drive.
If you commute to work and only drive long distances a few times a year, then you could easily install it only when needed.
in no particular order:
1. Unplug cruise control box, don't lose the rubber seal for the connector
2. Unbolt it.
3. Unscrew it from the throttle bracket.
4. Unhook it from the throttle body. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have a Type RA Spec C steering wheel which also comes in the S202 and since it has no place for the cruise switch why should I leave the unit under the hood?
[B]
The cruise control is super easy. I removed it and put it back on. :) It seemed to be a large function trade-off for a small weight loss. That all depends on where you drive.
If you commute to work and only drive long distances a few times a year, then you could easily install it only when needed.
in no particular order:
1. Unplug cruise control box, don't lose the rubber seal for the connector
2. Unbolt it.
3. Unscrew it from the throttle bracket.
4. Unhook it from the throttle body. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have a Type RA Spec C steering wheel which also comes in the S202 and since it has no place for the cruise switch why should I leave the unit under the hood?
| ImprezedRS | 02-10-2003 01:00 PM |
Well most power window unit these days way as much or less than the manual units, so that I wouldn't do. I havn't removed my cruise control since I like it. I will be going on a all out interior stripping again this weekend to remove some extra wires and stuff and will see what else I can find.
| NeoGeo | 02-10-2003 01:14 PM |
Cruise control only goes to 80mph. Not that much use under "certain" circumstances. ;)
| ImprezedRS | 02-10-2003 04:02 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NeoGeo [/i]
[B]Cruise control only goes to 80mph. Not that much use under "certain" circumstances. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back.
[B]Cruise control only goes to 80mph. Not that much use under "certain" circumstances. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back.
| DoinkMobb | 02-10-2003 07:33 PM |
I would have left out the carpeting after scraping out the sound deadening, but the bare metal looks like ASS now. There's some plastic snap-on thingies that hold down some wires or something, and heating vents that go towards the back of the car.
I'm sure my GF would complain every time she got in the car too.
I'm sure my GF would complain every time she got in the car too.
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